It's one thing to see your friends do it but quite another to live it yourself.
Recently, one Reddit user submitted a question to the platform, asking moms and dads to share the funniest things child-free people have told them about their idea of parenting. And they delivered.
From calling maternity leave "a vacation" to the classic "just sleep when the baby sleeps", here are some of the phrases that let parents know you have no clue what they're going through.
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When I was pregnant, I couldn't sleep well because every position was uncomfortable. Well, my friend said, 'You probably can't wait to give birth so you can catch up on some sleep!'
One of the main reason why I don't want kids is the lack of sleep. How is there a grown person in the world that doesn't know that no sleep is one of the main side effects of babies?
I sleep better after birth. Babynest and the hormones from breastfeeding is very relaxing.
uhm you won't get some good sleep until 5 years after birth- I know this and i'm not in highschool
I gave birth 25 1/2 years ago. I haven't slept properly since. I think I've forgotten how.
Maybe the friend just assumed she would hire a nanny and sleep in the east wing while the baby's room is in the west tower.
Bored Panda contacted the author of the post (who wanted to remain anonymous) to learn more about what inspired them to create it in the first place. "I think I was talking to a child-free friend about working from home during lockdown and how my husband and I found it quite challenging since the day care (which we usually use) was not an option and taking care of a 2-year-old is a full-time job as is, let alone when you have your 9-to-5 job with it," they said.
I was getting a passport for my 3-week-old daughter, and the worker said I needed to sit her up on her own, then when I told him she couldn't, he stormed off to get a manager.
I hope the manager provided a child seat to prop up the baby.
Load More Replies...This is the first time I've heard of an employee, and not the customer, looking for the manager.
Okay, so the guy didn't know about babies... but he didn't believe a mother who did.
What an ass. Just take the picture and turn it 90 degrees. Or how about making a photograph from above, so the sweet baby may lay in their own stroller.
Uh.... I need closure, what actually happened after he ran off to get his manager??!
"She was completely shocked since she wasn't even thinking about it that way. She enjoyed working from home and was able to organize her time well, while using this whole lockdown thing to catch up on all the books she never had time to read. Then I was shocked," they added, jokingly. "It just became clear to me how our conceptions differ depending on our life choices, and I instantly remembered unsolicited pieces of advice about parenting (not from this friend), as well as some benevolent comments which clearly show how parenting really isn't one of those things you can have a preview of."
This one was from my ex who I should have know would be a terrible parent.
In the hospital, I just had a baby and was struggling to breast feed. I went to the washroom and when I came out my ex was feeding my newborn applesauce. FREAKING APPLESAUCE. She was only hours old and 4 weeks premature.
Also he told me that I needed to wait for my 5 month old to calm down and self sooth before I fed her her bottle because when a baby cries when they are hungry that’s how they manipulate the parents.
God I hate him.
I'm wondering what kind of scary childhood this guy had if he thinks a 5 month old is capable of manipulation.
I think this is a thing of old days. My granny is convinced that children have to be brought up strictly from day one. She told her Baby-Son (my dad) to man up. He was then 14 months old!
Load More Replies...The apple sauce is a big indicator. Just doing something you have no clue about to a very fragile little body. That says a lot about a personality. No inhibitions whatsoever. Also the manipulation is true. But it's not the conscious negative form. It's the unconscious necessary to survive form. If you have no other way to communicate but cry to indicate needing something, that's what you do. So the sentiment is understandable. Not being able to understand that it's not a choice is also saying a lot about their capacity to think... Brr...
My ex told me the same thing about the baby needing to calm down before feeding her. He's not in the picture anymore.
Where would you even get apple sauce when in a hospital anyway? I don't get what the thing is with Americans giving apple sauce to babies. We only put it on pork.
It's already soft and pureed. Hospitals tend to have soft foods on hand for people who can't chew well (or at all).
Load More Replies...Naturally, the author of the post also had misconceptions about parenting when they were child-free. At least for the newborn stage. "I didn't know babies needed to learn basically everything. Like, I thought breastfeeding comes to them naturally, meaning it's not challenging for a mom at all. Then I had my daughter who literally needed to learn how to suckle."
"When I first heard about babies 'rolling onto their tummies', I didn't know that was something they needed to learn. Of course, I know they won't be able to sit, crawl, etc., but I never thought that turning your body is something that's acquired. There were many misconceptions," they explained. "I learned they weren't the case at all by having my baby."
When we were working on our baby registry, my husband couldn't understand the need for a stroller, saying, 'I'll just carry the babies.' What makes it even funnier is that we were having twins!
It's so endearing to see dads carrying infants in wraps or in their arms!
Load More Replies...oh, man. i can empathize...when i was pregnant with my 1st baby, i wanted to get a dresser for the baby's stuff. my partner was puzzled and asked 'can't we just put it all in a plastic bag'?
It wouldn't have taken long for him to work this one out... once he held them for a hour he would understand lol.
Our stoller was never used. Carried in a scarf or a carrier. Kids hated the stroller.
Be glad you were not having triplets. You'd have to divorce him and marry an octopus.
The Reddit user wasn't expecting that the post would get so much attention. "I didn't have the time to read all of the replies but I had more than a few good laughs and I also learned that us parents need to be there for each other. It's hard for others to understand [what we're going through], so judging each other is really counter-productive. Also, even though I've started my post by stating that it shouldn't be about how child-free people were rude (just clueless), I have received a couple of really ill-meaning comments where parents saw judgment regardless of the fact that there probably wasn't any."
I guess the bottom line is that people who had huge misconceptions about parenting expanded their horizons. And gave the Internet a good laugh. That's a win-win in my book.
I was working from home with a 6-month-old, and it was hard trying to have conference calls and entertain her at the same time. Well, my husband said, 'Don't worry — it'll get easier when she's around 12 months old, when you can just sit her down for an hour or two with a coloring book.'
This should get double points for not being said by a child-free person.
Yeah why the heck is this post about things said by child-free people when like half of them are being said by either the OTHER PARENT or someone who we have no idea as to their parental status?
Load More Replies...It would get easier right away if he took the kid when she‘s having the call. Why is it always the women?
Maybe the father is an essential worker and still full-time away during the day? Why do we always have to assume misogyny without even knowing the people involved?
Load More Replies...and then..oh! yeah, you can wait for your kid to start eating the crayons, and colored pencils!!!
When I went on maternity leave with my third kid, my boss said, 'Enjoy your vacation.'
Not completely wrong. In Sweden we have 480 days paid parental leave per kid and many save some months to go on vacation with them later. I have been on several vactions with my 3 kids while on parental leave.
Well, Sweden has a pretty generous system for this. If I'm not completly wrong I think the US has like 3 weeks paid maternity leave...
Load More Replies...Cheers to Spain for giving four months of equal and non transferable parental leave to moms and dads! One of the few times where I am proud on my country.
UK is 52 weeks and 50 weeks can be shared between parents. Legally the birth mother must be with the child for the first two weeks (four if working in a factory).
Load More Replies...In my country Czechia, you have 3 years paid maternity leave +1 optional year unpaid. But I would hardly call it a vacation.
I have been guilty of this. It just never clicked for me that they are still working. Babies are a full time job.
Once, my child-free friend asked me if my 18-month-old would sleep in the next morning because it was Saturday. I laughed so hard!
I vaguely remember those. Like alarm clocks. No need for those when you have a kid to burst in like an FBI raid at 6.30 every morning!
Load More Replies...Holy awful car seat practices. Those straps are WAY too loose. And I could be wrong, but it looks like the seat is forward facing, which is an ABSOLUTE no-no at that age. Best practices are to keep your baby rear facing until they turn 2 (and it's not that hard, folks, been doing it for decades), but it's absolutely essential that you keep them rear facing until at least a year. The physics involved in even a minor crash could lead to death or permanent disability for that little nugget. If you have questions or concerns about whether or not your seat is safe and installed correctly, stop by your nearest fire station. They can help.
I think this car seat is too big for this child as well.
Load More Replies...I have a friend who would call me, the childless friend, when she wanted her kid to sleep in. I had free entries to a water park so we would go and I would run around with her girl, slide down the water slides (the ones she was allowed on my lap), etc. Worked like a charm, every time.
After I had my first (of 4) child(en)? I knew I should have asked for a snooze button to be installed on her cute puppy belly.
Recently, we were visiting our friends — who are child-free by choice — and they really love my kid. When they heard my kid was into puzzles, they brought her a 1,000-piece one! She's 3 years old.
She can do it when she's older. They just need to keep it safe until then.
Load More Replies...Oh god, sorry but I can't stand these snotty comments by parents about presents and comments of people who don't have kids. I'm sure they hadn't know either whether it was the right thing to give a 3 yo a 10 or 1000 piece puzzle before they had one. Yes it may seem stupid, but they meant well and you shouldn't make fun of them bc they do not have to know this stuff. I'm also sure the parents don't know a lot of stuff about their friends' lives or would it be ok if those friends made fun of a present to them which didn't suit their lifestyle (like the wrong bottle of wine or something)
didn't they have younger siblings either? Anyway, when I'm looking for a present for a very young child, I ask the store manager and/or look very good on the packaging, to get age-appropriated presents
When I was pregnant, one day I realized my baby hadn't moved as much as usual, so I told my friend I might need to go get checked. She replied, 'Can't you just tell the baby to move with your mind?'
Ironically, “mind don’t work” also describes the childless friend.
Load More Replies...ALWAYS get a checkup if you think something might be wrong. My first baby was always very quiet. And then she died without me even noticing. That was 2 weeks before her due date. Be carefull and trust your instincts!
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you're feeling ok. Miscarriage is a horrible experience but the imagination of miscarrying so close to the due date leaves me speechless.
Load More Replies...this has nothing to do with having kids or not, shes just super stupid
When I was pregnant of my first baby, maybe 3 months. I was with belly up, suddenly I saw this half tenis ball moving from the left to the right. It was soooo fascinating and scary . We call the Dr, in the night, to ask if this is normal. He asked if we saw the movie alliens and when we said yes, he told us that is just a movie. He totally get us. Best Dr ever.
It would have to be way more than 3mo, at that point the baby weights about 100g and measures less than 10cm, the ute is also too low yet. Either gas or you are thinking about 5mo
Load More Replies...Drink a little apple juice (like 2 ounces). The sugar rush makes them kick.
I did that when my parents were visiting London, I had set times when I moved but guess the time difference got me. My mum poked me until I moved
I foolishly thought I'd have all this free time during maternity leave, and I actually suggested to my husband that it would be the perfect time for us to get a puppy because I'd have time to train it!
Fingers crossed they didn’t send that poor pup to a shelter when they realized they made a mistake.
As it is worded as 'I suggested' rather than 'we got a puppy because I thought' I'm a wee bit hopeful that they didn't get round to getting a puppy.
Load More Replies...If people manage to have twins, it might be possible to have a baby and a puppy at the same time. Until you get very tired, confuse them, and suddenly realize you've just walked for 10 minutes in the park with your 6 month old baby on a leash.
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I was pregnant at the time and working in a kitchen. My general manager caught me sitting down while prepping some potatoes for service and said "It must be nice to get to laze around whenever you want". It took all of my will to not say something snarky. He did get fired 3 weeks later for a non related incident. Karma is a b**ch.
My mom worked at a supermarket. 7 months pregnant. Her boss had her to handle the heavy crates of drinks in the warehouse. What an Asshole!
Hey, as long as you wash your hands before you hold the baby, you will be ok <3
My favorite is always, 'Just sleep when the baby sleeps.'
Assuming you have someone else to help with chores and stuff yes.
Load More Replies...I've heard parents say this to other parents. Here's the thing - some "out of touch" sayings aren't just from the child free; they can come from well meaning parents who are passing on what worked for them. But, guess what? Every baby is different. Some babies sleep through the night at 4 months, others dont sleep more than 10 minutes at a time for 2 years. Unless its obviously, laughably, ludicrously ignorant ("babies sleep in on Saturdays dont they?"), accept that some advice is well meant because it worked for someone.
I really can't understand why some parents just assume someone's being mean or "out of touch" when they say something that worked for them... Or when they ask something they don't know.
Load More Replies...So I guess no sex for at least 16 years on that plan!
Load More Replies...To paraphrase a comedian whose name escapes me: "Yeah, I'll also do the laundry when the baby does its laundry and pay the bills while the baby does the taxes."
Like we have switch for sleep which we can turn on and off. 😠Takes me hours before I get to sleep. By the time I’m sleepy it’s time for the baby to wake up. 😭
😆 🤭 I always found this hysterical, in my head I see loads of mums sleeping in the middle of a food shop. 😆
every time i laid down my kid would wake up.. it was a nightmare... haha
A thing I said before I had kids. "I feel like parenting is easier than most people make it out to be." Said to my old boss with 2 kids. She laughed so hard she almost peed herself and then put that quote on her bulletin board to remind me when I had kids.
Sometimes it is, most of the times it's not. All depends on who the 'people' are that you're talking to.
I mean some parents are super dramatic about it, and then make fun of how ridiculous their friends are for buying a 1000 piece puzzle for a 3 year old.
It can be easier. But there are many factors that you have to consider, the first one being that the children may have a learning disorder, special needs, ADHD ect.. I say it can be easier if you are the parent of children who do not have any attributes that require special attention from professionals then it merely comes down to your parenting style and early education at home as to how your child will react and behave. I have a 18yr old, 15yr old and a 4yr old and not once in my parental life have I ever dealt with an explosive public tantrum, screaming misbehaviour, children fights. I have never had to spank or scream and beg my kids because I have always had simple expectations and I have never made promises I didn't keep.... parents often make idle threats such as "if you don't do this I am going to..." but they never follow through, this is a negative lesson which teaches the child to not ignore your future demands. Be assertive don't make false promises and follow through.
We took our baby to a wedding when she was 2 months old, and they had a place setting at the table for her — complete with a full set of metal cutlery and a highchair!
Um, unless the newlyweds cooked and served the meal, this is more on the caterers.
I agree. I imagine they were told how many adult guests there were and how many children, no more details. On my country, the menu is different for adults and kinds, so I guess nobody stopped to think.
Load More Replies...Yeah the venue is unlikely to know more than that the child is under 3. They hear under proper chair size they set up for a high chair. People often give venues wrong information, and it's better to take away a highchair and setting, than not have the highchair there, need one and not have one available.
Most parents who have a baby bring their own stuff to feed the baby. Just move the cutlery and stop being a Karen... you should be grateful that your friends actually allowed babies at their wedding and even asked for a highchair... entitled much?
I think that's on you. The RSVP usually and asks how many adults and kids, its for food/seating. If you know your kid is too young to eat then you'd not even mark them, or comment baby-no food (so they don't have to pay for the "head")
I DONT SEE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS? A. Babies do not belong at weddings B the awesome people who allowed a baby at your wedding made sure your child had a high chair and C if you are the picky parent and bringing a kid to a wedding then I'm sure you have a diaper bag complete with plastic baby dining ware right?
In this thread- being thoughtful is "Hilariously Wrong." F*****g idiot.
I can’t believe you brought a 2 month old to a wedding. Sitter too expensive?
My sister visited once and scolded me for letting my children take our couch cushions off the couch to make a fort. That's the last thing I was worried about with three kids under 7 years old!
What exactly should she worry about regarding a sofa fort? What business is it of sisters? I could understand if it was sister's sofa, but it's not, so, mind your own beeswax!
Wait..... there is NO age limit for couch forts!! I'm over 50 and will still crawl into one if I see it :)
Do not tell me how to raise my children. Would you like a stern lecture on why he is permitted to do (insert activity) ? There are always reasons. Playing in the mud is learning about different materials. How does it feel? Smell? Can it hold a shape? And I could go on. We had a hose, bathtub, and washing machine to take care of the mess. A child is always learning, safety is important, but not much else
What kind of cruel, evil person could say say something like that? Pillow firts are a natural stage of childhood, almost a rite of passage.
My sister once told me that I should let my son (he was 5 at the time and in diapers) to let him stay at her house for a weekend and she would have him potty trained. He, and his younger sister, have a neuro issue with their bowels/bladder. The 'I have to go' signal just doesn't work. I told her she should suggest that to the specialists that he had been seeing at the time. But, at least neither of my munchkins are bed wetters, so there's that. Isn't family grand?
One of my relatives was always getting offended when she would call my baby to come to her and always get offended that the baby was ignoring her. The baby was 10mo., barely started walking at that point. I told my relative, "she barely knows that she is a person and has legs, she's not exactly choosing where she is stumbling to."
I hope that relative never has kids. Or even pets. Sounds like those morons who have kids/pets and expect them to fix their self-esteem issues.
My favorite is always when people say, 'When we have kids, it won’t change our lifestyle at all. We will just bring the kids wherever we go!'
Well that actually worked for me so it depends on the kid and Your lifestyle.
and your finances. Doing stuff with your kids is generally more expensive.
Load More Replies...Well, I'm a diamond thief and let me tell you, nothing hoses up a stealth job faster than a crying baby...if I could turn back the clock... /s
Yup, I had a 3yo and a 6month old, we sold our house, bought a caravan and left the UK to start a new life in France with no plan of where we were going or what we were going to do. Don't let society and people try to pin you down just because you have kids.
Who says this? You gonna take your baby to a bar with a band playing?
Worked great here. If your lifestyle is hiking, camping and larping you can easily bring kids along.
Woodworking, skydiving and brain surgery: Less so!
Load More Replies...If you drastically need to change your lifestyle you're not ready for kids. At least that's what I've learned because my lifestyle didn't change all that much.
My lifestyle changed a bunch, but I was actually going out more, doing a larger variety of things etc after the baby.
Load More Replies...Our lifestyle changed so much when we had our son, but its been for the better, he enjoys a lot of the same interests we have and all three of us have been having so much fun teaching him new things <3
Our little ones didn't alter our lifestyles much. No theater or eating out for a while, but outdoor activity and travel went off without a hiccup. Planning and small adjustments are key.
I was told that by a man who wanted to have a child with me. I'm still childless and always will be!
I wish it was as humorous as a lot of the stuff I’m seeing but I have been told by far too many people (mostly without kids but a few with) that because I had an emergency cesarean I didn’t really give birth. It’s usually overly joking but still annoying as hell
My sister had an emergency caesarean because it was that or THE KID DIES. Which just makes this even more offensive. (My nephew came out just fine and is a strong and healthy toddler now, if anyone's wondering. Kiddo was just too damn big to be born the other way).
I had an emergency c-section and it was also that or my daughter dies (but she was only 6 pounds). She was in fetal distress, seeing the heart rate monitor drop in the 30s and 40s was more than stressful.
Load More Replies...I was a Cesar baby, and so was my brother, and we grew up with close friends who were both IVF babies, so both things were completely normal to us growing up. It wasn't till I was an adult that I learnt that there are actually a lot of assholes out there who shame people for having to have a c-section or IVF to successfully have children. I think it's so sad. I also completely don't understand why people are like that.
Where do you live? Because people around here can be real assholes, but I've never heard this kind of s**t before. Why should anybody care whether a person was born one way or another??????? I'm gobsmacked! I'm not surprised you don't understand it. I don't understand it either.
Load More Replies...Thats total bull, you definitely did.. My wife did the same. If thats not a birth then nothing is
I have adopted four children. I hear questions all the time about their "real" mother. I educate them that I AM the "real" mother. There is someone who is the BIRTH mother who didn't give a crap about them. So I get your frustration.
I don't know much about this birth mother, but just because she put them up for adoption doesn't mean she didn't care about them. I'd understand if you had a discussion with her that proved otherwise.
Load More Replies...C section recovery looks just as hard as natural birth recovery.
harder actually, they seperate your stomach muscles, put your insides on your outside or shove them out of the way cut open your uterus and take the baby then sew it up and put everything back. It is not a picnic
Load More Replies...You can thank Mr Shakespeare and his "no man born of woman" can kill Macbeth - Macduff had been a c-section
I don't get it. You had a person inside you, that you grew and nurtured, then, your body decided that the human being inside you needed to be outside you, you had an emergency cesarean, undoubtedly saving your and your babies life, and then that human was outside of you. Thus, you gave birth.
My friends used to hit me up at like 7:00 at night, asking me to come out that night — and then they'd be shocked that I couldn't just 'get someone to watch the baby!'
Are we saying that you don’t keep an adult teen in your spare room all week for the occasion?
I don't find this annoying. So many mothers complain they lose their network and are isolated eith the baby cuz no one asks them out anymore. People without kids don't always plan things 3 weeks in advance
My 22 year old brother telling me that instead of nursing my baby while we are together because it weirds him out, I can pump enough beforehand and feed bottles and then baby will be good all day. I explained that if I miss a nursing session then I would be really uncomfortable and have to pump during that time anyways so I usually only pump when I'm away from my baby. Sorry kid
"It makes me super uncomfortable when you use your body for its intended biological purpose"
Nah, honestly, I hate this answer. I’d be uncomfortable if some guy had his penis out so he could pee right in front of me, especially if he was related to me. He’s uncomfortable seeing a normally private part of his sister. That’s it,
Load More Replies...Next he'll be saying that it makes him uncomfortable when you use the bathroom in his presence, so you must pump your stomach every time before you see him.
Yeah I think he’d be allowed to say he’s uncomfortable with her peeing right in front of him.
Load More Replies...my little brother was weird as hell about me BFing. he'd literally use his hand to sheild his side veiw and avoid looking at me when I did. not once did he tell me to not, or to stop. it just weirded him out for his sister to be sitting in the living room with a boob out.
To be fair, he's pretty young. Good opportunity for his sister to teach him
Nothing weird about breastfeeding a baby. It's natural. What's wrong with this world??
My wife and I told her parents that "We trained our dogs really well, kids can't be that much harder..."
18 years later I've got good kids, but the dogs need attention.
The kids were easy to 'train' my dog on the other hand..... it's a battle of wits and I appear to be losing lol
We just can't train our dogs, ones a husky the other is a collie, the collie is easier and the husky is just a grumpy pants.
Dogs are like kids, but they never grow up. Never understood dog people who denied having kids...
Live your life your way, don't expect help or push your responsibilities on others. Deal with the consequences of your choices. People will help in an emergency if you don't abuse the privilege. Be able to laugh at things you said or did in the past. Be happy, love your children and the dogs.
what does this have anything to do with the post? *scratches head* ok
Load More Replies...Wait till the kids are old enough. You can make them take care of the dogs.
I could never understand why parents had to plan around their baby's nap. Well, fast-forward five years and two children later, and I now know that if you don't, all hell will break loose halfway through your 'fun' outing!
Never planned anything around naps. They just sleep when tired, in the carrier, nearest sofa or lap. Depends on the kids and the training I guess.
Yeah, some kids can sleep anywhere whereas others need quiet.
Load More Replies...ıt depends on the baby. Have two kids, first was so easy about where and when to sleep. Even when you wake her no problem. With the second, we were delirious because of him. Every little sound made him wake...
I never understood how to make a baby take a nap, so basically my 4 children slept when they were sleepy and life just keep happening as usual while they slept
My mate thought it was genuinely OK to pop out for a bit whilst your baby was having a nap. I think her example was going out for a meal.
I had a friend who's husband used to do that. He worked from home several days/week and would put the baby down for a nap and then go out and get a haircut. I told her that if the baby woke and the neighbors heard it crying for an extended period of time and called the cops, they'd have the baby taken away. She thought it was ok for him to do that. He, obviously, thought it was fine as well. Morons.
Some people should be sterilized so they can't reproduce.
Load More Replies...Yeah, that's what Madeleine McCann's parents thought, and now she has been missing for almost 18 years.
This kind of behavior stood my husband's hair on end, particularly because it was some of his fellow RNs who thought it was fun to go out for a run while the baby slept. House fire, anyone?
I think I would be too paranoid to leave the baby asleep without constantly watching the baby monitor. I might quickly get something from the car?
Someone should tell the authorities of their thoughts just to be safe. Maybe an occasional drive by to see if the house is on fire. I'm not kidding.
When my grandmother was a young mother, she was told by a neighbour (rural area) that she didn't know how to handle it and that they put some strong alcohol in their baby's bottle and then were fine to go dancing. It is a surprise these babies survived to adulthood (but they are not the sharpest tools in the shed...)
Someone I know suggested doing using maternity leave to do your masters.
Sure. If you are not pregnant and not adopted a child. Those four months would be a perfect time for that. I doubt.. you will get maternity leave for a masters.. but.. hey.. try!
I think the OP meant that someone could do a Master's while on maternity leave. While caring for a baby.
Load More Replies...People on my course did exactly that. Perhaps they had more support at home? I was well impressed at just how determined they were.
If living in a country where you could add se facto automatically a paid nursing leave to the normal maternity leave and stay at home until your child is 3 year old that could a possible achievent.. if only written thesis is the missing link.
I've heard of people doing this and I think it's BS. For those out there who don't have the "luxury" of paid maternity leave I think that's a slap in the face to them, not to mention the fact that the leave is supposed to be for bonding with your child (natural or adoption ), not spending time wasting money another degree. Ok. Rant over.
A masters takes about 1,5 to 2 years, full time. How long are your maternity leaves?
My husband thought kids start talking at around 3 months, and he joyfully asked our friend whether her 4-month-old was already saying something funny!
@Javiera Gotelli- you are seriously unhappy in your life- all of your comments in this thread are straight disrespectful and or in poor judgmental taste. I hope one day you can find some happiness- because the way you must be living is not living at all. Someone really needs to give you a hug.
My dad was so looking forward to my birth, so he could have deep philosophical and scientific conversations with me. A year later, I still wasn't a brilliant conversationalist. He loved me anyway, and we got there eventually.
It's sweet that he is excited for that first word! He'll soon learn that it won't be that early, but it's still nice to see.
My brother turned five last month, he still cant speak complete sentences. I cant wait for him to grow up so we can tease my cousin together
I'm childfree by choice and have no idea what milestones are for kids. I don't know when they start talking.
When I was pregnant and picking out a bouncer, my husband said, 'Is this really necessary? Why can't we just put the baby in a chair?'
'Cause they always be trying to sneak in their own baby booze.
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When I had my son, the first child from that generation, my cousin straight up asked, "are his eyes open yet?" Like I had a kitten instead
Fair enough, Babies are used to close their eyes a lot. Took 3 days to see my nieces wonderful blue eyes!
Haha! My brother had such a chubby face and forehead that we really couldn't see his eyes for a while either XD. His brown eyes are amazing now though ^^
Load More Replies...When our daughter was born, my husband (who grew up on a farm) was shocked that her eyes were open!!! Lolol
I really, really have the impression that before kids born with eyes closed for days or hours, but kids now they open their eyes almost immediately.
That is true I've noticed also and I would really like to see if there is any scientific explanation for that
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My husband did this with his first child! He was in the delivery room and when the baby was born he said 'Oh look! His eyes are open!' Cracked up the nurses and his ex LOL!
The way grown-up people carry on about their pets these days, I'd call that a justified observstion
We were convinced that having a baby would have no significant impact on our ability to do things. So at seven weeks old when we got a message a relative was in our city for one night we said "sure we'd love to meet for dinner" and commited to a one hour train journey in each direction and dinner.
We got home at ten pm exhausted and saying "never again". The meal was wonderful but the trip home was exhausting
There is a learning curve. When dating my ex husband, often he wanted my son to join us. When out to eat, he entertained my son -- like taking him to watch the lobsters -- my son adored him and loved the attention. Realistic expectations. He would order whatever my son wanted, within reason. Sometimes it was a plate of grated cheese. Happy child = peaceful dinner - usually.
At 32 weeks pregnant I had the nursery complete and set up. All one could ever need to provide good care for a baby was in there.
Childless people around me: 'Oh, so early? Now you'll have to wait so long for the baby! What will you be doing in the meantime?
I got hospitalised at 33 weeks for being in labour
Also who wants to mount furniture and decorate when they are 9months pregnant?
There's a reason the "nesting" instinct kicks in earlier in the pregnancy!
Load More Replies...People who have a negative comment for everything, are worth ignoring. "This is how I decided to do things. When it is your turn, do your way." To my mother, "This is my child, you had your turn. I set the rules and deal with the consequences." My son loved proving her wrong. When we went to a toy store, he had 15 minutes to play in the toy area. My mother said it was an awful idea, he was certain to have a tantrum when we tried to leave -- nonstop. My toddler son stopped when asked, as we walked out he gave my mother a look -- don't under estimate me.
yup, at 35 I thought I still had time. A week later my husband had to buy everything on his own while we were at the hospital
😆 Or lay a carpet and list their house for sale when there a week late.... 🙄
“What will you do in the meantime” like... literally anything? Also I doubt more than one person actually even cared.
I had to call in to my last job because my 4 year old was sick. My boss asked if I could just get someone else to watch her. As if someone else would be willing to take off work, risk getting sick, not to mention- I'm her mother, I'm the one people call to take care of MY child when she's sick. I just told him no after a confused pause. My current job is sooo much better about this. I was frustrated at the time, but now I think it's just silly.
In my country parents have additional few vacation days per year for stuff like this. I believe they can be taken without any notice, too.
Parental sick leave, not really vacations, but yes many countries have them. The US don't even have maternity leave, so expecting them to be comprehensive of 'just' a sick kid is too much.
Load More Replies...If there was a holiday, my office told me to bring him in when he was a toddler. He loved it. Once he sat under my desk and untied people's shoes. Another time he turned the box fan so the air blew into the hall. Took paper from a recycling bin, tore it into small pieces, held them in front of the fan and watched as they blew down the hall. He was quiet, not hurting himself or anything else. All we saw was a toddler sitting on the floor happily. Most of my co-workers were male, they thought he was funny. They would stop by to say hi and see what he came up with to entertain himself. My son loved it, he felt comfortable and safe, got lots of attention, and mommy was nearby. He never wandered. Still it was a terrible idea.
Some bosses just suck, I used to have a boss who would get mad at staff with kids calling in sick to look after their sick children. And he had kids himself (although he had a stay at home wife).
Standard procedure at the airline I used to work for. Your child is sick? Ask someone else to look after him. Heartless.
Not quite the same but when I was worried I couldn't feel any movement from the baby my husband told his boss he wanted to go to the hospital with me. His boss (who has had multiple children) said 'why can't her mum take her?'. Maybe something to do with the fact that I'm his wife and it's his baby. Some people in general are emotional robots.
We've been locked down since March (high risk area and shielding) with most friends and family in another country, so I nominate all the people who have (very sweetly and well-meaningly) told me that they hope I'm getting plenty of support over Zoom/suggested I do online baby classes/etc.
My daughter was 3 months old when COVID hit, she's just turned one now, and man she haaaaaaates teleconferencing in all its forms. If Mr Pell or I are talking to a computer or phone, she perceives it as us ignoring her and cries, screams or tries to grab the device and hang it up. All the friends and family who've Zoomed or Skyped with us don't really get that at all times during the conversation, one of us is frantically trying to placate the baby with toys, snacks, bouncing etc while the other one talks. It's completely exhausting and all three of us have come to hate it so much, it's the literal opposite of comforting or supporting.
Blargh, I think I needed to get that off my chest!
Can I add to that? I wfh and most of my dad is filled with Zoom meetings. Then family and friends get arsey that I don't want to sign into my work account to do more zoom meetings with them in the evenings and at weekends. They think I should be grateful for the company....
My son would wake up or lose interest in whatever he was doing, and suddenly demand to be held the instant I answered a phone call. Even if he couldn't hear me. A super power. Sounds dreadful, but I talked on the phone when he was in the bathtub. He loved baths and was loud. His second spoken word was 'crash', it happened often. I sat outside the door and secretly watched. Impossible on a zoom call. If we we had zoom calls back then, he would have insisted on being on my lap and talking nonstop -- a variety of sounds I didn't understand. It would have been awful, unless all anyone wanted to see was my son. Watching would work. A conversation would be a nightmare.
My ignorant ass to all women going on maternity leave: "So are you going to work from home and watch the baby?" HAHAHAHAHAA DUMB ME
I actually did. I'm a freelancer and got around half my revenue during maternity. Now I keep wondering why I did it, it was such a nightmare
people who think parents should have some magical ability to prevent babies from crying on planes.
On the flip side: please don't call people who are annoyed by children's crying on plane assholes. I have compassion for the parent, I don't judge them, I know they likely feel worse than I do... but I can't help being annoyed anymore than you can stop the kid from crying.
as long as the parents try to comfort the child, I'm absolutely cool with it. It's the parents that let their kids run rampant or cry without doing anything that annoy
Load More Replies...Or, consider why it is necessary to bring a baby on a plane in the first place. 200+ passengers get to listen to your one baby scream from cabin pressure on their wee ears.
Honestly, they should just have "child free" planes like, you can buy a ticket on a plane that will be guaranteed to have no children on it. That'd be great. I understand kids and babies need to travel too, and it's not the parents fault if their baby is crying and unable to be calmed, but it would also be nice to travel such a long distance with some peace and quiet. xP
There was something about a Japanese (I think) airline once which considered letting people know when choosing seats where small children would be sitting, so you could choose your seat far away if you wanted to. The comments were so negative, calling people who would do that hateful assholes (oh irony!), saying they would rather sit next to a screaming child than somebody who hates screaming children, etc. etc.
Load More Replies...Parents should at least try to alleviate the crying. Some parents just give up. Ive had a child fall asleep on my shoulder almost the entirety of a 12hour flight. Its sweet at first but not when he put half his body over mine lol. The parents. Just. Ignored. Until i couldnt take it anymore & asked. Cycle repeats :-/
Letting the kid sleep on you wasn't cool, but I can understand giving up otherwise. A plane is a loud, scary place and it does funky things to tiny ears - I guess sometimes there is just no comforting the child, and most of the parents I see on planes look totally exhausted after a while.
Load More Replies...Try calming a special needs kid on a plane :( but on the flip side they are so fast to get you off first just to get some peace while the other passengers are waiting to be loaded off. Never seen a flight attendant dig out my stroller so fast lol.
Sooo... making everybody on the flight suffer entitles you to special treatment?
Load More Replies...A child who can talk should understand 'inside voice." The mother behind me announced how well her child behaved after a long flight, as though shouting and shrieking nonstop was wonderful. Crying can't be controlled, shouting can be. We traveled often, my son usually slept on the plane or train. Conversations were just loud enough to be heard. It was how you behaved. Can't behave, you stay home with a sitter -- a concept he understood. As an adult he thinks his childhood was easy. We were strict. The rules never changed, he accepted them.
"oh...why don't you time your daughter's feeding?!like just feed her at certain times I saw people did it in my family.then you can come to a coffeeshop with us and hang out."
FYI
My daughter was 3 months old at the time. Coffee shops in my country are not restrictive on smoking. And my daughter has allergies.
Yeah...that one actually made me mad.
When I was pregnant with my first, my husband was talking about how I'd have so much time to devote to hobbies while I was off on mat leave. Newborns just eat every 3 hours and sleep the rest of the time right?? I was not convinced that was true, but couldn't really articulate what exactly would fill up all my time. She ended up being very needy and colicky for the first 3 months and I maybe got to shower every 2 or 3 days and that was about the extent of my free time. Also, for the first 2 weeks she was having latching issues and had jaundice so we were on a strict every 2 hour breastfeed, pump, feed pumped milk, wash pump parts, start again approx 45 mins later schedule. She is 2.5 and I still sometimes remind him how dumb we were pre-baby haha!
I get angry with people that think maternity leave is vacation and I don't even have kids
Thank you for getting it! People just have NOOOO idea. And the dads I work with who are clueless about what their wives actually do drives me nuts!
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A childless friend couldn't understand why my 2 year old wasn't wearing any clothes in the house. "Isn't he cold? Why don't you just dress him?" .... he will be undressed again within 60 seconds there is absolutely no point in dressing him.
She also said, rather hilariously, "once he falls off the table once, he'll stop climbing up there"
Well she's not wrong I guess they won't do it again but they could get seriously hurt the first time so that's not a good idea
If we were home my kids were in diapers. No reason for extra freaking laundry. Our house was a comfortable temp, and our doctor mentioned keeping a lower temp is good for their immune system (just something that was passively discussed...I never did any research on it... I just lived my life and took care of my kids...) 18&15 years later they’re still kicking and hardly ever sick, so maybe there is something to it.
"It'll be fun, you can just get a babysitter!"
Yeah, let me get right on finding a babysitter on 3 hours notice so I can leave my bottle-refusnik 2 month old baby to come to a concert that starts at 11pm.
I’m childless and still can’t see myself going to a concert that starts at 11
I went to one that started at 10 a while ago and decided I am too old to be going to concerts that start at 10.
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I always love it when people suggest something that boils down to “just try and reason with them”. I’m like, there’s no point in trying to make any kind of rational argument with a young kid, especially one that is in the middle of a tantrum. Kids have big emotions over things that to an adult seem silly, but to them, it’s huge.
You gotta wait it out. They’ll tire themselves out and when they do, you can have a little chat with them and ask them “do you think that was an appropriate level of anger because there was less ketchup on your hot dog than your brother’s?”
My aunt always used to calm me down at around 4yo. Always wanted to explain to me, which intention she or my mother had to make things that made me angry. Finally I got a meltdown every time and my mom was standing there like: I know this is over in a while, don't talk to my kid, she will calm down soon. RIGHT! (Mom told me, once I bite my aunt! 😂)
I think that’s how we end up with so many dumb adults. Even if a kid can’t accept or understand reason, it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t expose them to it. Maybe child free people say this because it’s obvious parents who won’t teach their kid to reason have just given up.
All the people who equate having a child, and caring for that child, to having a pet.
No. This tiny human is not just like your dog/cat/whathaveyou. Please stop.
My friends and family who have had animals say it has many similarities and is good practice, just more work and intensity. It's the ones who haven't, or who don't understand or respect animals who are rude and pour scorn on the idea. I wouldn't trust any parent of a small child with my dogs, believe me 🤗. Also, keep your kid away from my animals, please. They might catch something (the dogs that is). 🤭
Load More Replies...you don't parent pets. you train them and are loving owners but it is not the same as a child. You don't raise an animal to be independent and self sufficient the same as you do a child.
you can leave a pet while going to work, you can't leave a toddler alone to go to the bathroom ☠
One of my childfree relatives was visiting us and asked me, why I looked so awful. I responded that I hadn't have a normal sleep for 2 months (our baby was 2mo then), just a max of 1.5 hour at a time. I was also working from home, so no "sleep with baby" option. The relative was like, "but your baby is 2 mo already, why don't they sleep the whole night? Our 2mo sleeps full nights". They just got their puppy home.
I find a lot of similarities between pets and babies. Having guinea pigs prepared me for having a dog. And having a dog prepared me (somewhat) for having a baby.
any person who would die for any animal is just weird ,, why wouyld you risk your life for an animal ?? how do you think the person or persons who care for you will react too you choosing an animals life over your own ?? im sorry to burst your bubble but there is no honor in dying for a cat or a parrot or a german shepard or an iguana .. there just isn't
I think people are downvoting you because you're being very preachy and judgemental on pretty much every post, not because of your opinion. It's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying it. You don't seem capable of or open to having a discussion about differing views. More like "I am far more intelligent and insightful than you, my experiences are more valid than yours and my opinion is right and more important than yours". Just saying...
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I’ve had waiters offer to get my infant a kid’s meal. That was pretty funny.
That's just being polite. Would you rather they ignore your little beast?
I remember one place bringing (frighteningly well-sharpened) colouring pencils for my 10 month old. I did think it was kind of sweet of them - as I swiftly removed them.
I’d always just break the tips if they were freshly sharpened... once they were old enough to use them. Edit: they don’t know or care about the kids motor function, they just know their job. And the one time they decide a kid is too young is the one time a parent goes crazy on them.
Load More Replies...Infants are kids under 2. Kids under 2 do eat meals, so a reasonable offer I think.
My FILs girlfriend (no bio kids) asked me when I'm going to put my son on bottle (formula) when he was around 10 months old. When I said I wasn't and that I planned to continue breastfeeding until he was at least 2, she asked me if there's anything still in there
A reminder that between 6 and 8 mo you have to start introducing other food, aside from breastmilk, which should continue til 2y at least, along with the other food. All I say is based on actual research studies in child nutrition and development, not parenting guides (that are culturally biased)
I hate when people talk down to those who breastfeed for 2years. I, personally, have an opinion how long is to long, but it's not any of my business. As long as the relationship between mother and child is only as nature intended, we have no saying in it. If YOU think breastfeeding is wrong or "perverted", the problems is YOUR train of thought. Sorry not sorry.
Doing what is healthy for a baby (even up to 2 years old) is not obscene or sick.
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I foolishly thought I'd have all this free time during my mat leave year with my first child, and at one point even suggested to my husband that if we were ever to get a puppy, that would be the time because I'd be home to train it! (I've never owned a dog, so this was a double whammy of child and canine blissful ignorance.)
I would just think that the dog is there to soothe my anxiety on this newfound responsibility.
Puppies are never soothing they are a lovely souce of more anxiety
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Before I had kids, I told my boss — who was a mother of two — 'I feel like parenting is easier than most people make it out to be.'
It actually is. And if you're struggling with one, then don't have four kids!
When I was pregnant with our first, my husband genuinely didn’t know that newborns don’t follow an adult eating schedule (3 meals a day at set times).
My child free boss complained to me that she was soooooo tired because she went to a concert the night before and didn’t get to bed until midnight. I was 8 months postpartum and hadn’t had a full night’s sleep since 2nd trimester. It’s funny now, but at the time I had to just walk away before I pushed her down the stairs.
I myself once had aspirations to only have wooden “creative” toys for my kids, no plastic and nothing requiring batteries. You can guess how long that lasted.
Oh, gatekeeping tiredness, cool! Because only parents are ever allowed to be tired.
There's a big difference between "I got less sleep than usual last night" tired and long-term sleep deprivation tired.
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Before we had kids, my husband and I were watching Mad Men and I laughed shocked at the scene where Betty is holding their newborn in the front seat of a car being driven home from the hospital post-delivery. I had to explain what was wrong with that picture. My husband asked, “do they even make car seats for babies that small?” We have learned so, so much from our two kids.
That series is set in the 1960s before the introduction of baby capsules and car seats for older kids were primative compared to those in use today. In some places even seatbelts were not yet compulsory and most cars had bench seats in front that seated 3 people.
My car seat (from the late 1980s) was just a hard fiberglass chair, it looked like it would have been a dissected component of an actual car seat.
Load More Replies...I don't remember baby seats existing in the early 80s. Someone held the baby when it was a baby. It sat on the back seat once it was a toddler
When my oldest was a few months old and I was a SAHM, I had a well-meaning friend ask, “What does that entail?”. Or my mother, when I complained about my son liking to climb up on the kitchen table: “You didn’t do that because I had rules”.
I agree. If you've never been a parent, you may not really know all that goes into caring for a child full-time. Sounds like an honest question to me.
Load More Replies...I hate it when people who have kids just assumes everyone should know and understand their daily struggles. Same thing when they tell child-free people stuff like "you don't know what being tired is until you have kids"... Fckn entitled idiots. I'm a mom because I chose to be one. That doesn't give me the right to btch about it to other people.
Parents of grown kids with amnesia about the hard parts of parenting are so common and soo frustrating.
Nothing wrong with the first part. Stay at home parents are not a thing where I grew up, we either have maids, fulltime nannies or the kid stays at daycare/activities while parents work. So, I'm having a kid and I could ask that first question (first cos I did not even understand the acronym)
I am childfree, but my entire life I've been hearing from relatives and random strangers that I should totally have a child. When I point out the difficulties of pregnancy, birth and the actual raising of such, they normally respond in a rather dismissive way. Having kids is like a dead-end trap, once you are there you try to lure others in.
I've never tried to lure others in to having children they don't want or aren't ready for. My only child (daughter) doesn't want kids. I'm fine with that. It's her life to live, not mine, and she doesn't "owe" me grandkids. Would I like to have grandkids? Absolutely! But not at the expense of my daughter's happiness. My choice to give her life doesn't entitle me to run her life.
Load More Replies...This could easily have been a post called, "misconceptions people have before kids". Instead the title is a snarky "child free people", which sets up a negative dynamic. Child free people can be a ally if you don't talk to them like they are an idiot for not knowing something
Agree. I hate being treated like an idiot bc I don't know what f*****g size a two-year old wears or whether it's ok to give a 3 yo a 1000 pc puzzle (yep that post pissed me off). It's a gift, don't go bitching about it on the internet or go all dismissive and patronizing
Load More Replies...Is it me or a lot of the fathers do not seem to have prepared at all for pregnancy or their child and have no idea about childrearing? Its sad how women are still expected to deal with it alone in most families.
In my experience, women glean a little information about pregnancy & childbirth during their teen and adult years from other moms, while men avoid this info like the plague until they have a kid.
Load More Replies...If you are so bloody stressed about your rugrats, then next time you get busy, use contraception! It's not like you didn't know about contraception, you fools!
Yeah. They chose to have kids and then whine about them all day long. Also a lot of parents attack childfree people for not wanting them. I guess that we deserve to suffer because they do.
Load More Replies...Having a child is a choice. Don't complain about how difficult it is, how tired you are or how the childless "don't understand". You brought this on yourself. If someone who doesn't have children or has no experience with children and makes an ignorant comment. Inform them, kindly, and don't shame them. Some of these examples are only ridiculous if you are a parent.
So we're never allowed to complain? We have to pretend it's perfect?
Load More Replies...Reading about parents say/ask these moronic stuff about their own children just proves that there should be a basic skill test for people who want to have kids... There are enough idiots in the world, and now they're raising future idiots.
Breeding license...that might solve a lot of issues.
Load More Replies...So this is about childless people, not childfree. Childfree = doesn’t have and doesn’t want kids, childless = doesn’t have kids, but wants them in the future. BIG difference. Also, most childfree people know how it works VERY well, which is why we never want kids.
Probably the dumbest s**t I ever heard: my uncle (lives in Paris) asked my mother (lives in Canada and has four kids): "If I had a child, would you raise it for me?"
My grandfather handed off one of his children to his brother and walked away. This was after his wife and other child had died. He moved to another location, met a new woman and started again. We only found out about the other part of the family in recent years. Not judging him - I expect he was devastated and the other child was at least cared for by family who loved her.
Load More Replies...Eh some usual parent snobbery in the posts.. so many people act like they weren't a "real person" before they had kids
I am childfree, but my entire life I've been hearing from relatives and random strangers that I should totally have a child. When I point out the difficulties of pregnancy, birth and the actual raising of such, they normally respond in a rather dismissive way. Having kids is like a dead-end trap, once you are there you try to lure others in.
I've never tried to lure others in to having children they don't want or aren't ready for. My only child (daughter) doesn't want kids. I'm fine with that. It's her life to live, not mine, and she doesn't "owe" me grandkids. Would I like to have grandkids? Absolutely! But not at the expense of my daughter's happiness. My choice to give her life doesn't entitle me to run her life.
Load More Replies...This could easily have been a post called, "misconceptions people have before kids". Instead the title is a snarky "child free people", which sets up a negative dynamic. Child free people can be a ally if you don't talk to them like they are an idiot for not knowing something
Agree. I hate being treated like an idiot bc I don't know what f*****g size a two-year old wears or whether it's ok to give a 3 yo a 1000 pc puzzle (yep that post pissed me off). It's a gift, don't go bitching about it on the internet or go all dismissive and patronizing
Load More Replies...Is it me or a lot of the fathers do not seem to have prepared at all for pregnancy or their child and have no idea about childrearing? Its sad how women are still expected to deal with it alone in most families.
In my experience, women glean a little information about pregnancy & childbirth during their teen and adult years from other moms, while men avoid this info like the plague until they have a kid.
Load More Replies...If you are so bloody stressed about your rugrats, then next time you get busy, use contraception! It's not like you didn't know about contraception, you fools!
Yeah. They chose to have kids and then whine about them all day long. Also a lot of parents attack childfree people for not wanting them. I guess that we deserve to suffer because they do.
Load More Replies...Having a child is a choice. Don't complain about how difficult it is, how tired you are or how the childless "don't understand". You brought this on yourself. If someone who doesn't have children or has no experience with children and makes an ignorant comment. Inform them, kindly, and don't shame them. Some of these examples are only ridiculous if you are a parent.
So we're never allowed to complain? We have to pretend it's perfect?
Load More Replies...Reading about parents say/ask these moronic stuff about their own children just proves that there should be a basic skill test for people who want to have kids... There are enough idiots in the world, and now they're raising future idiots.
Breeding license...that might solve a lot of issues.
Load More Replies...So this is about childless people, not childfree. Childfree = doesn’t have and doesn’t want kids, childless = doesn’t have kids, but wants them in the future. BIG difference. Also, most childfree people know how it works VERY well, which is why we never want kids.
Probably the dumbest s**t I ever heard: my uncle (lives in Paris) asked my mother (lives in Canada and has four kids): "If I had a child, would you raise it for me?"
My grandfather handed off one of his children to his brother and walked away. This was after his wife and other child had died. He moved to another location, met a new woman and started again. We only found out about the other part of the family in recent years. Not judging him - I expect he was devastated and the other child was at least cared for by family who loved her.
Load More Replies...Eh some usual parent snobbery in the posts.. so many people act like they weren't a "real person" before they had kids
