30 Things People Have Had To Unlearn After Their Parents Ingrained Them In Their Childhoods
When I was a child, my mom always told me to learn to do math in my head, "because you won't always have a calculator with you!" Well, years have passed, I'm really good at mental arithmetic - but damn, the calculator on my smartphone gives me virtually no opportunity to improve in this skill.
Be that as it may, from childhood, our parents instilled in us many different points of view, advice and instructions, which may have been truly useful in their time - but as adults, we understand that it is unlikely that literally following these recommendations would have benefited us. Or maybe it even does harm. So here is a selection of similar stories from the corresponding viral thread in the AskReddit community.
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The need to always be productive. There is no sitting down. If you sit down you can be folding laundry, organizing something. The house must be spotless the yard must be pristine (even if there’s only one person to do all of it) and time for yourself is frivolous. Anything short of this is laziness. The ultimate sin.
I’m literally sick from living that way. The guilt of self care is gut wrenching.
I wonder if they're retail managers with the whole "if you have time to lean you have time to clean" mindset.
I swear that my cluttered messy house is a direct result of my mother's need to have everything perfect all the time!
Much of this is passed along from older people who lived through much leaner times.
I used to get, "Just walk it off". Didn't matter whether it was a scrape or a broken bone. No emotion was to be shown you just had to, "walk it off".
This is why so many of the boomers are so out of shape and have so many health problems. No hobbies, no exercise, nothing in terms of down time other than plopping down in front of the tv.
It might also be because the boomers are in their 60's and 70's. (1946 to 1964)
Load More Replies...I agree with this though. Everyone I know who has turned into a mere couch potato did not follow this rule. I follow this rule. My only vice is bored panda. And yes I regret it, it eats time like crazy.
That the number on the scale matters.
My whole life I agonized about my weight. My mom kept telling me I should weigh 120 but I could never get there. But now I'm almost 40 and I've finally figured it out. I can run a half marathon in under 2 hours and my mom still gets after me for my weight being over 130 at 5'4". I'm healthy and strong. The scale doesn't matter.
Being underweight is just as harmful, if not more, as being overweight, and yet skinny people aren't harrassed, shamed and dehumanized nearly as much as fat people. I wonder why is that so... I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the fact skinny people are considered aesthetically pleasing...
It's about wanting to control people. Plain and simple.
Load More Replies...It only matters to either extreme. I’m 50 and 150. Until lockdown I had been 125/130 from age 15. I survived an eating disorder & kidney damage because comments and asides had me constantly looking at that scale and trying everything from steroids to mail order supplements to get that number up. In my case, the number in the scale shouldn’t have mattered. Had I been 10 pounds less or 40 over, that number mattered in the sense I would have needed medical intervention.
Muscle weighs more than fat. So, being fit and muscular may make you weigh more, but I bet you’re actually THINNER at 130lbs and fit and toned, than someone who is 120lbs and unfit (the “fat-thin” person with little to no muscle tone). Besides, it’s only a 10 lb difference, ffs. If it was 30, 40, 50 lbs then yes, you would need to start paying attention to your health and lose some weight, especially as you age. But it’s 10 lbs of pure muscle. Tell Mom to GTF over herself.
Came here to say this - at 5’5” (165cm) I couldn’t get below 150lbs (68kg) no matter how hard I tried. I ate healthy, exercised daily, and was a size 2 (2 US, 6 UK).
Load More Replies...There's not really such a thing as big or thick bones, but there sure is such a thing as being more muscular, which accounts for a lot more weight than the same volume in fat. Thumbs up for being active, using the body and therefore actually gaining some good weight. If the nutritional balance is right, a little extra cushioning here or there does not matter.
Of course there is a thing as different size bones! How do you think taller people get their height? Do you believe that my broad shoulders hide the same tiny bone structure that my tiny girlfriend has? Some people are naturally shaped to look like a strand of spaghetti while others have more of a potatoe shape
Load More Replies...I'm 5'3 and a size 3 at 130 pounds. At 120 I look like a bobble head
120 is overweight, not so? Oh wait pounds. Can they not put the units there?!
Same here... my mother evilly gloated when a velvet dress she worn at 15 years old, and I couldn't fit in it when I turned 15.... the arrogant proud look on her face was disgusting. Will never forgive her toxic obsession because my brother adopted that behavior and became anorexic in college.
Whether the number on the scale matters depends entirely on why you're looking.
Don't talk back.
I was just explaining my logic and my way of problem solving.
Sorry that it sounded like disrespect but that's your problem.
And my parents wonder why I don't share information with them anymore.
Because heaven forbid your daughter share actual information with you.
One of the many reasons I cut my father off. I remember once when I finally stood up to a bully and gave him a verbal a*s whooping. When I got home they immediately started yelling at me and refused to listen to what I had to say. I was forced to sit at the dining room table from Friday night until Sunday night doing homework he made up. My father can rot as far as I'm concerned.
I love the "NO EXCUSES!" one. I have a valid excuse, don't get angry with me because of it...
But it's only a reason if they understand it; up till then, it's an excuse.
Load More Replies...I counter with the truthful saying: "You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar." I think the majority of this has to do with the tone and attitude we as children chose (Yes. CHOSE.) to take. Much of disrespect isn't in the words or the fact you had something to say, it's how it is said. This goes on into adulthood. I'm pretty sure we've all seen, more times than we care to count, children who grew up into adults STILL talking at people with that attitude and tone. It's ironic that the slap back is, "...but that's your problem" when the people who received your attitude and tone most likely aren't giving your demeanor a second thought. It is YOU who are stuck with the problem, not them...no matter how hard you wish it to be true.
I'm disappointed that this has been downvoted. Your comments are valid and, I can see at least, were in no way intended to be unkind or confrontational. Simply an (astute) observation that is, sadly, quite true.
Load More Replies...When are people going to glom on to the fact that disagreement is NOT disrespect? Get your head out of your @sses and stop looking to pick a fight because someone dares to disagree with you. You are NOT infallible.
ok, I'm sorry, but that stock photo looks like the dude is force choking that girl like darth vader
"Don't talk back" - red flag. If you aren't allowed to talk to them (not interrupting, just trying to explain your side of things) then that's not a relationship, it's a command structure.
Can anyone explain to me what "talking back" is? I have never understood.
Not my kids. I didn't raise any doormats. How can you survive in the world if you can't do your own thinking or stand up for yourself?
This is the attitude I got for years until I learned to just grin and nod my head. Now the grin is a stiffled laughter when I watch my father mess something up. Oh, I could have helped or corrected you.... but why "talk back" ? Who am I to know what's right?
There are different ways to express your feelings and opinions and I do think parents need to teach their kids to express things respectfully to others. They don’t need to grow up thinking it’s ok to be rude and hostile. However too many parents use the “don’t talk back” response to cut off their child from sharing their own perspective. So they are being controlling. It’s not cut and dry issue.
No, in fact, life experience is an incredibly wholesome thing, and the ability to learn from your own and, importantly, other people’s mistakes is a skill of critical importance. But at the same time, it is important to realize something else - any generalization based on your own experience may turn out to be erroneous. For example, if for some reason you are unlucky with online dating, this in no way means that others will also be unlucky.
“You can’t always get what you want!”
True Dad, but you keep forgetting the second part where if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need.
My grandfather would tell me you can always get what you want as long as you’re realistic & flexible with what it is you actually want. Oh, & to never confuse wants with needs.
That is very sound advice. Sometimes the things we need are not the things we want.
Load More Replies...Early on, the Rolling Stones were predicted to be the undoing of civilization. Not kidding. Years later, who knew one of their songs would give one of the best pieces of advice about life.
Many people pursue what they think they want at the expense of what they actually need. Young people and fancy cars comes to mind.
All unions are bad. (my dad).
Refused to work a union job. Ended up with nothing but a life of financial struggles.
He was not thrilled when I took a union job.
Twenty years in a union (private sector). Good wages, vacation and traditional pension. It was not an easy job for me but at least I have something to show for it.
What is wrong with more security, higher wages, vacation? 🙄🤨🤦♂️🤷♂️ (it's not communistic..)
The far right has cooked up this myth of unions being evil for all sorts of nonsense reasons, but the only group that they're "evil" to are the greedy top of the companies that think it's fine to take 400x the salary of the people who do the actual work.
Load More Replies...People who believe this nonsense either suck at their history lessons or dropped out of school by age 8. Because of unions we have nearly every protection we now have and 5 year olds aren’t working 14 hour days on the streets or in the mines or slaughterhouses. No, “5” is not an exaggeration for those who don’t know history.
Funny. When company leaders and business owners want more money, it's capitalism. When workers demand a fair price for their labour, it's all of a sudden socialism/communism. No sir, that's capitalism too! Nothing comes from nothing and nothing is free! You want my work? Well then you better pay up! I'm in it for the money! Because that's capitalism baby! So pay up buttercup.
The corporate types like to pretend that supply and demand don't count when the commodity is labor.
Load More Replies...Collective bargaining is often the only way to advocate for oneself within an agreement that has Goliath and their legal department on the other side.
The Union is the People keeping "the powers that be" in check and rightfully so. Without this balance, we know from history what can and most likely will happen again.
It IS happening again right now in the US! 40+ years now of Ronald Reagan's Trickledown "economics" has resulted in gutted unions and a now near-dead working class! The resent union strikes however give me some hope for the US's future.
Load More Replies...Your father was a weak minded fool parroting the company. Sorry to say, but it's true.
Business goes after kids and attracts terrible abusive parents and guardians with the suggestion that child labor laws prevent kids from getting fast food and other retail positions. The reality is that migrant and other marginalized kids will be kept from getting an education while laboring in meat packing plants and construction jobs. Republicans don't want your kids educated.Already in 2023, seven bills to weaken child labor protections have been introduced in six Midwestern states (Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, and South Dakota) and in Arkansas, where a bill repealing restrictions on work for 14- and 15-year-olds has now been signed into law. One bill introduced in Minnesota would allow 16- and 17-year-olds to work on construction sites.1 Ten states have introduced, considered, or passed legislation rolling back protections for young workers in just the past two years.
This is an American issue. I've been a member of unions for over 30 years. I dont know of anyone who has this much animosity towards unions. I know people who aren't in them because they believe that you only need them when you're in trouble and don't expect to get into trouble which is bizarre. The benefits far outweigh the costs.
Australian here. It's weird when I talk to some of my American friends about education and healthcare. Apparently I'm a socialist commie because I think they should be free (not free, but we pay taxes and the money should be used for that s**t first)
That I HAD to hug any family (or friends) who wanted to hug me. Everyone else's feelings were more important than my own deep discomfort. I was constantly being forced to show physical "affection" because not doing so hurt my father's, grandparents', and little brother's feelings.
It really got kicked into overdrive when my mother realized that other people were noticing me cringe away from even the slightest touch from her. Who knew that if you badly abuse your daughter, she's going to flinch when you try to hug her??
Say that louder for the people in the back. Adults: we need to be aware of these little cringe movements of children when their parents are around. It's our duty to be their voice when their parents refuse the privilege.
Sometimes those little cringes are indicative of something going on that’s way more sinister than just being made to hug someone when you’re not in the mood. It is unbelievable to me just how many people skate through life without ever really having a good think about anything, and never ever developing any empathy with others, or understanding that there’s more context to a person’s behavior than you see on the surface.
Load More Replies...Why do adults need hugs from kids? Does their self-esteem depend on that? There are other ways to interact with kids, such as conversation, playing, etc.
Yes I think you should let kids initiate the hugs. I never make them hug anyone.
Load More Replies...I know a family who sent out an email just prior to their big family visit. They were teaching their child about body autonomy and how HIS space was his....and if he wasn't comfortable, he could say "no thanks". My eyes opened wide...what, that's an option? The older generation said...this is what's wrong with the world. Yean, that's why it wasn't an option for my time. Kudos to parents teaching their children that they are important and valued!
I was made to hug my uncles new girlfriend when I was 6. Her poor back, cos she was stacked. Inadvertently I was smothered by them. I ran around the park yelling “Thorun stick her boobies in my face” in a sing song way. My poor Dutch made it seem like I was saying she forced her breasts in my face. It distressed other park goers and cops came. I was so scared that I’d done something wrong. They needed to deduce if she put her breasts in my face on purpose. I’d always had body autonomy with my primary parent. Now I had it with my paternal relatives, too. No more forced contact. I only became aware in retrospect later on whilst laughing about it with my uncle.
LOL. My husband as a little kid didn't summon cops, but he was still lucky that Mrs. Kastner's embrace didn't *literally* smother him. Might explain his teenage and adult preference for women with sizes A to B.
Load More Replies...I ask my Nephews and Nieces if they want a hug, if they say No then I just offer a fist bump, at the end of the day, their personal comfort should always come first. Myself, I've never been much of a hugger pertly due to my former best friend using them for abuse (I'm straight, he's not) but also because I have Autism and hugs are a sensory overload for me which can cause me to go into an absence seizure (where my mind goes completely blank and I end up staring out into space not noticing anything going on around me) Even as an adult I prefer not to be hugged unless I know the person really well and trust them implicitly. I have also been trained in UK Safeguarding Laws and one of the things we are taught is that any showing of physical affection should be instigated by the child, never the adult and the child should NEVER be forced to do something that they are uncomfortable doing.
I'm 40 and I hate getting hugs. My in laws are all huggers and they know I hate it but still insist.
We need a word to counter "insist" - maybe "desist" ?
Load More Replies...The first rule I let everyone around me know is...Do Not Touch Me...Ever.
I am so glad my family hated hugging and touching, but extended family would force it and I hated it. Keep your hands and mouth to yourself thank you.
Hugs feel nice and can promote bonding and emotional warmth. But that or kissing should NEVER be forced, either. I do worry when a family is coldly indifferent to each other, though.
Load More Replies...My children do not have to touch anyone they don't want to! Gross!
Sadly parents who abuse their kids won't listen to this advice, because narcissists don't and can't care for others.
“Almost any rule, any tradition and any advice from parents is nothing more than an extrapolation of other people’s life experiences,” says Irina Matveeva, a psychologist and certified NLP specialist, with whom Bored Panda got in touch for a comment here. “The only question is the volume and representativeness of the statistical sample. In other words, if the formation of some folk tradition requires the experience of thousands and thousands of people, then parental advice is often the experience of one person. And not necessarily of the same generation.”
“I remember a semi-fictional story about a woman whose husband tried to find out why, when she boils sausages, she always cuts off the ends. She said that her mother taught her that way, and then, when the couple became interested and began to find out the origin of this idea, it turned out that the wife's grandma simply had a single сasserole dish - a very small diameter."
“In other words, someone else’s life experience is wonderful, but under two conditions. First, it should not clearly cause harm in changed life circumstances. Second, over time, it must necessarily be subject to critical revision,” Irina summarizes.
I was bullied a lot growing up. I was a miserable little girl who heard "Boys you pick on you actually like you," and "Girls who pick on you are just jealous of you."
Laziness! The adults who say this are accepting it as fact so they don’t have to take action. You know, actually parent. They’re also proving they will not protect you nor will they take your problems seriously. Instead they’ll gaslight you.
Wow. Perhaps it’s some understanding. It’s inter generational childhood trauma that is dumped on all of us. Every generation before made small steps to get us collectively to where we are today. Each generation does better that is hope in this world but let past generations heal without the guilt. We are sorry, we truly are but we had trauma too and didn’t live in such an accepting time as you
Load More Replies...heard that so many times from my parents and school teachers, it never stopped it just got worse, didn't help iI was one of the smallest in my year group in school and was wired differently in my brain (highly intelligent but also undiagnosed Autistic) so I was an easy target for all the bullies in school, the fact I didn't fight back didn't help either. Sadly the bullying made me hide my intelligence and my schooling suffered because of it.
Load More Replies...So the boy who called me fat in 8th grade and ripped my chair out from under me and spent the rest of the year announcing that I was coming every time there was any kind of BOOM after that just had a crush on me??? Wow
Well, there might be some truth to the girls picking on someone they’re jealous of—-mean girls do exist, I’m sorry to say. However, the one about boys actually liking you if they bully you is total b******t. That’s just setting little girls up for a lifetime of abuse from male partners. I mean, just take that idea to its extreme. “Yeah, he beat the s**t out of me and nearly killed me. He must really like me a lot.” Now how does it sound? Yeah, not so cute anymore, right? Always, ALWAYS test what someone tells you, especially if it sounds as suspect as that. If it doesn’t hold up, it’s total b******t, and you should ignore it.
To be fair, some boys do it because they don't know how else to get a girls attention, and that's the fault of the patriarchy. I had a boy teasing and annoying me for a year straight and then he asked me out. Uh...NO.
Load More Replies...I've heard the first one which is b******t of course. Never heard the second one.
Horse poo... Never understood the point of picking on someone, if you have problems at home or are so insecure that you feel the need to impress others at the expense of some innocent person who does not deserve it, get yourself some help...
I was bullied mercilessly at School and told not to tell tales. It has done lasting damage to me
Like I always say: give a bully a throat punch and they'll leave you alone forever more. Only way to deal with them; only thing they really understand.
“What will the neighbors think???” 🙄
Well as their neighbors, I think they should mind their own business.
Yep. The neighbors are perfectly free to have their own opinion. I'm actually quite sure that tho other neighbors might have a completely different opinion and that those across from them will have a third. Can't please them all.
Load More Replies...I grew up with this attitude... We were always concerned with what other people would think. Repair guy coming? Clean the entire house top to bottom. My mom even vacuumed our garage!
Yep. And the repair guy doesn't care, and isn't going to talk about you either. Except to another repair guy that has an even better story about someone else's house. That's the stuff guys talk about at bars ladies.... And sports.
Load More Replies...If you blast your music at full volume in the middle of the night, what could go wrong, right? You can do whatever you want, but please keep it to yourself. If you let your music ruin your neighbor's everyday life or allow your pet to litter in their garden/porch every day, you are actually causing issues with your neighbor at that point.
Flip the question back to them ask why they can’t be more accepting, understanding and compassionate? Maybe give them an example by measuring them against their unattainable idea of perfection. I’m sorry if you actually heard that, Windy.
Load More Replies...Looking back when I was a child, I wonder what all my neighbors thought with all the shenanigans I'd get into in the back yard or in my tree house...
What about what we think? Isn’t that more important than transient acquaintances?
"We are the neighbors, and we don't think." -Lisa Simpson
I used to be (and to some extent still am) sociophobic, (and cringe too when touched, in crowds, etc), and the French hug and cheek kiss freaked me a bit. Got used to it, then missed it when Covid hit! When hug or kiss my wife on our balcony she says "What will the neighbours say?". I say it'll give them something more interesting to talk about. Better class of gossip for nosey or gossipy neighbours. I respect the neighbours if they respect us.
The whole make you finish what’s on your plate thing. Yeah I’m not hungry why you making me eat?
This is a had one, but as I was 100 lbs overweight it is something I had to change. Now, I stop when I am full and if there isn't enough to save it goes in the trash. I've lost 90 of the 100 so far.
Same here. As a child, the rules were that your plate had to be emptied. Food was treated as a punishment but also a reward, so desserts were only allowed if the main course was eaten. There were rules about what food could be eaten at which meal, for example, you couldn't have cheese on toast at dinner time as that was breakfast food only. It led to a long history of disordered eating-these days, if I'm not enjoying what I'm eating, I stop. If I'm not that hungry, I'll have a bowl of cereal for dinner. It takes time to get rid of the food rules enforced on you in childhood.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I’m 62, and my parents tried that “There are poor starving children in _______ (whatever country was in the news where people were starving), who would LOVE to have that plate of food”. Thing is, my mother would way overload my plate with food, way too much food for a child to eat. At first I tried, but struggled to eat it all, and if I did I felt sick because I was too full. When I was about 7, I had reached my limit of that c**p, and told my parents to just wrap up my leftovers and MAIL them to the starving children in ______!!! My mother was appalled. My father laughed his a*s off and told my mother to stop overloading my plate with food and expecting me to eat all of it. He said to let me say “When” and to not spoon out any more when putting food on my plate. His logic was right on target, because he said if I want more, I can always have seconds. Why my mother didn’t think of that in the first place is beyond me.
I was supposed to eat whatever I put on my plate MYSELF. If someone else put it there, I was to eat until I was full. No snacking afterwards because you didn't like the vegetables that much and no wasting food because you don't know your own stomach. This is the only way it makes sense to me.
Oh, and yes, we were allowed to dislike a view vegetables, but we did have to try them every time they were served.
Load More Replies...Then being force-fed until you puke and yelled at for that. As an adult I learned to use smaller plates and take smaller portions, so if I still feel the need to "clean my plate" I'm not overeating.
I was sick, had to finish the plate, puked, never was pushed again
Load More Replies...Not saying it's right, but my grandparents (I'm in my 50's, so...) had this ethos, but it was borne of financial constraints. Wasting food just wasn't an option & they couldn't afford for kids to "eat when they wanted". Also true, to a lesser extent, when I was a kid in the 70's. So we were "encouraged" to finish a meal...
Could have saved a lot of food without it being destroyed/picked at by not overserving children in the first place.
Load More Replies...This is somewhat ok, my little brother was so fussy that he'd just not eat if he wasn't sure about something. He'd need a lot of encouragement to just eat a normal size portion for his age and was pretty skinny.
Yes, my parents had to make me eat because I’d just have a couple bites and then be like, I’m done! Because of the medications I take I don’t feel hunger so I feel full all the time. I’m still underweight today (to the point where I had to go see a nutritionist) but It’d probably be worse if my parents didn’t do that.
Load More Replies...That rather depends on who put the food on the plate imo. If the kid does it themselves, then you can expect them to be reasonable about how hungry they are and put more or less food on their own plate. I'd say starting around school age a kid is capable of doing that.
It's taken me decades to realize that it's ok to leave food on your plate at the end of a meal.
Another clear example is the famous advice of Thomas Edison: “Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration.” Advice that sounds cool, especially considering the scale of the author’s personality - however, if you look at it, it was only suitable for one person, Edison himself. After all, the great inventor always suffered from a lack of theoretical knowledge, which he covered with an incredible number of practical experiments. Fortunately, Edison himself had enviable health and truly inhuman perseverance and efficiency.
"Never do a job unless you're gonna do it perfectly." Now as an adult, I've had to unlearn all this damaging perfectionism.
Do what you can within your boundaries and comfort level. Give it as much as you feel you need to give. And if you feel it’s ok to half-āss it, do that too. Effort is better than none, but putting in no effort can be ok, too. It all depends on the job. I dusted my bed fan last night. I didn’t disassemble it to clean the blades and motor in detail. I did as much as I felt I needed which was nowhere near 100% nor was it done well.
"Any job doing is worth doing well" is 100% true. "Well" doesn't mean perfect.
It's too easy to make the connection from "well" to "perfectly". I prefer to say, "anything worth doing is worth doing poorly."
Load More Replies...Hence why I'm unable to pick up a new hobby or do anything 90% of the time. Didn't get it right the first time? Guess I'll never get it right and shouldn't bother.
Look, I understand what you're saying, but please remember that it's not about doing it right, but about doing it and enjoying what you do. That's it. Don't be so hard on yourself and cut yourself some slack.
Load More Replies...No one is perfect, keep your chin up and do the best you can at what you're good at.
I don't know about this one. I watched my twin run around and hurt himself and said "nah, not for me". When I was 17 months, I got up and walked perfectly.
As someone that suffers with OCD and had an abusive upbringing, this one is the hardest for me. I work so hard to make things perfect and then someone comes in and wrecks it. Then because of their stupidity I have to do it all over again. The rest of the house falls to the wayside because I'm so busy making that one area perfect again, over and over. Sigh
This is clearly silly, for how do you learn if you cannot start until you can do it perfectly?
Good for you. I could never unlearn perfectionism. Got the idea it is really a part of who I am.
Typical religious fanatic nonsense.
-My role as a girl was to prepare myself to be the best wife and mother.
-CSA is the victims fault.
-What I wanted didn’t matter, know your place.
-There’s no point in educating girls and women.
-If someone is a religious leader, they can do no wrong.
You should never look on someone as having no faults. Everyone has faults, because we’re all human. Humans are flawed. It’s not necessarily a bad thing to have faults, so it angers me when someone tries to pass themselves off as perfect. The scumbags that become cult leaders are the absolute MOST flawed people in the world——and their flaws ARE a bad thing, criminally violent, abusive, and for some reason, hiding behind a thin veneer of religion, usually disguised themselves as a savior, or even the Second Coming. F*****g DISGUSTING pieces of s**t people.
This needs to be higher! Maby a good starter video on YT on the subject?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKzN5tGv7JI
This is sooooo wrong! Recently in our womens gathering at the church, our pastor's wife was lecturing about how important is for the girls to get good education even if they prefer to stay at home someday. They need education so they can have satisfying jobs, be good example for their kids and also because everyone prefers educated woman to watch over their kids.
Well, it’s not completely wrong. All churches are different. I personally have had good experiences. But I know for a fact that other people haven’t, and there are churches out there that are really cultish. (I know of one that doesn’t allow you to speak to anyone who is not a part of that church, even if you’re family.) But also, a lot of what you’re saying is sounding like your church is saying that a woman’s only purpose is to raise kids, and to look after kids, and the only reason to get educated is to teach your kids. Women don’t have to have kids. They don’t have to want to have kids. It is their choice. And everyone’s experiences are different.
Load More Replies...I disagree. I think it depends on the interpretation of whatever scripture the religion uses, and it also depends on the religious leader in charge. I know for a fact that a lot of Christian churches are misogynistic, but there are also ones that are not. There is never an always when it comes to people and groups. People have different opinions depending on how they were raised and their environments.
Load More Replies...There is a FANTASTIC song by one of my FAVORITE bands, called Voodoo Doll. It's by Lord of the Lost. It was written by a woman who use to be in a VERY strict Mormon sect, but, was lucky enough to get out. Great song! Go listen...🤘🏻👍🏻
That it's normal to have something negative to say about everyone you know as soon as you leave any sort of gathering.
People who do this are sad & gross. It’s such an abundantly transparent self-esteem issue.
I had a few negative words to say about a women who threw up on me because she's an alcoholic. Had f***ing nothing to do with my self esteem.
Load More Replies...Yep. My mother was a miserable human being because she could only see the negatives.
Load More Replies...Same here. And if I say anything to her about it I get an eye roll and "well you're my daughter, I should be able to talk to you". Sure. Human nature. We all talk smack sometimes. But, ohmygod ALL the time with her!
Load More Replies...I have seen too many pious Christians doing this. Then they go to the priest, to confess their sins, and start all over again and again and again.
Yes, negative comments about others (especially those you don't know well) are a bad sign - often of low self-worth...
Load More Replies...My dad always have negative things to say about people. I know now it's bitterness, seeing how they accomplished things and/or are just happy.
it's been said before - but people who talk to you like this about others, most likely talk about YOU this way when you are not around. Constantly putting others down is their way (in their minds) of raising themselves up by comparison. I know a mother / daughter who have done this for decades. It is a horrible "gift" to give to your children.
That gave me such a bad complex to always linger around trying to be the last person to leave a group so people wouldn't be able to talk about me when I left. This inevitably probably made people talk more like "God I thought she'd never leave"
I'm working hard to unlearn "that xyz was great BUT the one thing wrong was ....". It's ok to just enjoy something and NOT find something to pick at. Thanks mom.
Be that as it may, there are quite a few things in this collection that you may well consider to be sound ideas - even though some may find them useless. So now please feel free to scroll this list to the very end, comment the most interesting stories, and of course share your own examples of parents' advice which got only disproven by time in the comments below this post.
"People making minimum wage are stupid and beneath us." "People on government handouts are a drain on taxpayers who work for their money." "Universal healthcare is communist and unamerican."
-My father who has never had a job interview or put together a resume in his life. He joined the army at 18 and is still in it over 30 years later as an officer. Whose entire salary is paid by taxes. AND has his healthcare and education paid for by the government.
It baffles me how he doesn't see his own hypocrisy. How he can think it's okay for these benefits to be given ONLY if you risk life and limb (and be overseas most of your child's life).
Sounds like my gym teacher. Bragged about never taking a sick day, said anyone on food stamps was lazy and didn't want to work, and so on. Never mind that my family was living on food stamps because the only money we had was my pop's SSI and one employed income (my mom), my dad was physically unable to work and is still fighting disability 14 years later, and I was NOT AT A LEGAL AGE TO GET A JOB.
If you're dad is still fighting disability after 14 years (and you're in the US) Google and see if one of your state representatives helps in situations like that. There's one in my state that will contact SSI, get updates on your files and help the process move faster. They can't change any decisions though
Load More Replies...My FIL and MIL are bigger pieces of s**t for refusing to take handouts and ripping up their food stamps when the school intervened cause the kids were starving. My husband lived off ketchup sandwiches and they never had food but refused to use support available to them to feed their children. Still brag about it
I'm sorry for your husband that his parents are so scummy. I don't want kids, but I would much rather except help than let anyone in my household go hungry.
Load More Replies...I agree with this person. But even using the term/thinking of it as “Government handouts” is problematic. Government assistance is a better way to phrase it, I feel. Of course, there are people who abuse the various assistance programs- which is wrong and further subjects people who truly need the help to a harder path to access them and adds to the stigma.
Cognitive Dissonance!!! It's AMAZING how many people have this with SOMETHING.
There are people who join the military to avoid college debt and high medical bills.
sad. Tell your father from the rest of the world he's an imperialist colonialist stooge patsy and he must get a real job instead of a murderer's job. Thanks, from the global south.
That I was completely indebted to them simply because they fed me and put a roof over my head. As if that isn’t the absolute bare minimum requirement of being a parent…
My parents are sorta like this ( mostly my dad) and since they’ve given me food and a roof, when I get a job I have to take care of them, pay for all there trips(international) when all they’ve done is brought me into this heIIhole and done the bare minimum
Get your own bank account that they do not have access to and leave when able. You are not obligated to support your parents in any way. I do help out my mom, but that's because I like her, and she is disabled. If she was crazy abusive and always acted like I should be grateful to be born even though abortion was readily available at the time, then it might be a different story. An international trip isn't a reasonable present unless you are rich and even if you are rich, you are under no obligation to pay for it.
Load More Replies...My mom managed to get me in a debt that took me over 10 years to pay off because I accidentally totaled her car ( she had full insurance coverage!!!!!!! ) and she wouldn’t forward my bills ( or call me when I got mail ) when I went to live with my then bf because she said I was obligated to visit her every weekend and could pick it up then. My mom is mentally unstable so the weekend visits only lasted a few months before my bf saw what it was doing to my mental health. So I asked her to call me when there was mail but she didn’t. And when the bailiffs started coming to her she wouldn’t forward them to me until they threatened to sell her stuff. So I got bailiff billls that were insanely high and needed to be paid within the week. Worst case 24 hours before we lost all our stuff. She also got me fired from 2 jobs because she told my boss I was stealing money from the register ( not true, by the way ) all because I wouldn’t visit her every weekend “like I promised her” Ugh.
My parents always made sure that I knew I didn’t owe them anything. What they did for me is what parents should do. And I don’t owe them for all the wonderful times. My first movie in a theatre, not a drive -in, was Mary Poppins, getting ice skates for Christmas and spending all that time with my dad teaching me how to skate, a telescope for Christmas. For saving my life when I was being severely bullied by getting me into Loretto Abby High School. I don’t owe them anything. Just go out and give it my best at making a good life, and if I needed their help with that, they’re still always there for me. I was blessed.
Me too. And, she was on weldare/govt housing till I was 8. Then once she was forced into fulltime employment, she regularly got fired, a terrible example, in the mornings sometimes she would scream while getting ready 'I dont wanna gooooooo", encouraged my brother to drop out of highschool to change work from part time to full time (in order to help HER keep roof over our heads), took almost $ 2000 out of my savings account by the time I was 17.5 years old and slapped me hard across the face because I had the nerve to get upset and cry about it. (Me who got hired at Dominos at 16 and kept putting savings in an account she knew about).
An orphanage can feed, clothe and put a roof over your head too....
That I’ll quickly succumb to illness if I go outside with wet hair.
This is reasonable in cold weather. Your hair can literally freeze on your head.
Yeah but you wont get sick from that alone
Load More Replies...Canadian here .. for me this has proven true! Fall, winter, and spring .. summers are lovely and warm
And making me sit around in angst after lunch for 30 minutes in my swimsuit before allowingr back in the lake or pool. After a P&J with goldfish.
??? This must be a regional myth? I grew up with daily tropical torrential downpours so being outside was more frequent than being inside and being outside meant getting wet hair.
They forgot to add the other part of it, which is to go out with wet hair when it’s cold outside. I’m 62, and when I was a kid, this was my parents all over. All the old wive’s tales about catching a cold and stuff. A cold comes from contact with someone who is sick with a cold, not from the weather. I went out in winter with my hair still wet a lot, and was just fine. They hated it when I proved them wrong—-and that was back in the 60s and 70s.
Load More Replies...My great grandpa never let us leave the house with wet hair. To this day, even though my great grandpa died many years ago, I still hear him admonishing us for going out with wet hair, so I dry it.
I think this is old fashioned, rather than ridiculous. It has been disproved multiple times, but not advisable in extreme cold.
I don't like to be outside with wet hair, especially when it's cold. But even in Summer, for me it must have dried at least half, before I step outside. Wet hair feels so cold outside, it's unpleasant
“Everyone is more important than you.”
When I was a junior in high school she once quite seriously asked my best friend why he would be friends with me because she couldn’t understand why anyone would be.
First of all, insulting your kid is kind of like insulting yourself because GUESS WHO RAISED THEM TO BE THAT WAY, second of all that’s just mean and uncalled for and absolute sh*tty parenting.
This reminds me of my father and step mother: "Shut up! The adults are talking!" I couldn't have a normal conversation with other adults until I was in my mid 30s because I always had them telling me to "shut up" in the back of my head. "Don't interrupt! It's rude!' they would interrupt me to say.
Interrupting *is* rude but if there isn't a gap in the chatter within a minute or two it may be time to walk away. If there isn't a conversation including you, you're just background; you're not needed as a witness, it's just another lecture, and the course is optional.
Load More Replies...“Everyone is more important than you.” How was that decided? Was there a lottery like in the Shirley Jackson story?
My mother asked me why my husband was marrying me as he was - a nice guy that could marry anyone.
I got that message but more subtly. Even now if I tell my mom something going on in my life she'll talk about another relative or friend or someone at church she knows who has it worse.
That is seriously the effing worst thing to tell ANY other person- ESP a kid.
It is always my fault when something bad happens. Hence, I am still trying to quit my habit of saying sorry every time something bad happens or feeling guilty about things that went wrong.
Not sure if you're female or not but women traditionally say I'm sorry for everything. It's only made worse by someone like that.
They do ingrain this one into women don't they? I still get Gen Z girls apologizing for things beyond their control. I stop them by asking what they are apologizing for and often they do not know.
Load More Replies...My therapist said, "let this at least be the one place you don't apologize for having emotions," because I kept saying sorry when I started crying. It was very helpful.
I say sorry ALL the time, people tell me not to but then when I don't and actually stand up for my self i am 'Aggressive' cant win
I've been playing the word game "Wordle" on the New York Times' website for over 400 days. I missed a day when I was in Japan and had to start my streak over. I've only lost four times...until this morning when I lost again. I've been feeling guilty about it all day. It's just a game. But I feel so bad that I let it happen.
My husband did this today! Last week I put together our grocery order and missed something that he asked for. Today he's putting together a list and asked if they were just out of them when we got the order. Told him no, I just completely missed the part of your text that said that particular item. (I do the groceries while I have downtime at work ) He actually went "oh, sorry " I was like "What do you have to be sorry about, I'm the one who missed it!!" We both had parents who were always right so we both apologized a lot growing up.
I used to have a "sorry jar" instead of a swear jar. Practically paid for car gas every week. Especially when you say sorry for saying sorry to much
Put the whole thing in the passive tense. "This happened, and we're dealing with it". Fix the problem, not the blame. Blaming is just verbal assault.
This is the inverse of parents who insist their child is never wrong and that they have no responsibility to do anything.
Always think the worst it’s usually not that bad . I think they thought it was a good message but it actually made me very scared all the time if I can’t get a hold of someone I think they are dead or hurt. Or if someone is having bad day I always think it’s something I did wrong. I am trying to change trying to look at things differently.
Had my first ever panic attack because of this. I was texting my now-ex one evening and she mentioned she was driving home. I told her to drive safe and text me when she got home. She didn't text me back and my mind immediately went to "oh my god she crashed she's in the hospital she's dead".
The cause of most anxiety is the mistaken belief you have control over things. When you realize you don't and have no responsibility for the things you have no control over, the anxiety is much less. I have no control over how my friend drives, how people on the road drive only the way I drive, therefore there is no point in getting anxious over her driving. Whenever I hear someone say certain things give them anxiety, I just think they are closet control freaks who doesn't want to admit it.
Load More Replies...It's called 'catastrophizing'. A therapist taught me that and then showed me how it is a product of being raised by a mother who refuses to admit or treat a raging anxiety disorder. I was taught that EVERY TIME I say goodbye that it might be the last time I see them. A fun message to send a 2nd grader every morning before school....
Fastest way to cause a child to develop mental health issues, I've always had the same sort of thoughts due to similar things said to me as a child, now if one of my friends doesn't show up or reply to phone calls or messages, i automatically worry that something bad has happened until I eventually find out that they either just missed the call, didn't see the message or forgot the time. It's not nice to feel like this.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Always keep your buddy Justin Case around because you never know when Mr. Murphy will show up.
The way to put it is to expect the best, but be prepared for the worst just in case. Most of the time, if your expectations are realistic, it’ll turn out great. But the laws of chance tell you nothing’s 100%, so it’s always smart to have a backup plan—-and sometimes your backup plan turns out so much better it should’ve been your main plan in the first place.
I've had bad anxiety all my life and it goes hand in hand with my general overall pessimism.
A delightful 104 year old lady I know says " take each day as it comes and don't worry about anything " A good philosophy.
If you tell yourself "It could have been worse.", it probably will be.
I’ve recently realized how much of my negative self-talk is directly from my parents. Something good happens and I STILL get negativity.
Oh my husband grew up like this. He recently got a raise and we were already joking that his parents would still find a way to make it a negative thing and I'm not kidding, his mom really went "ah well but that means you need to pay more taxes now".
My MIL's reply was the very same and my reply was that I would like to pay huge amounts of taxes because that would mean I would earn huge amounts of money so paying more taxes is really good news. She was silent for an entire 5 minutes. Never enjoyed her presence more, actually.
Load More Replies...When I did something good as a child, my dad would search through the situation to find some small 'fault' & then proceed to give me 'constructive criticism'. Never praise.
I'm still trying to unlearn this one, seeing my parents do this, its become natural to think negative
Dude the post literally says "Something good happens and I STILL get negativity", who do you think they get it from, just look at the comments above and see that it is about parents find something negative in everything, ofc it is parents fault duuuh
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That the important people in your life should read your mind and know what you want them to do without asking. Absolutely not true- you need to set boundaries, voice your concerns and desires, and communicate to get what you want. Not just expect people to do what you want and be mad when they don't.
In my experience, the people who rant the most about this are the rudest when people do speak up. If you flip out every time someone tells you you’re not perfect, or get disgruntled every time someone asks you to give a little, of course people are going to be hesitant to speak up to you. If you want people to communicate with you, you have to work on being a good listener when they do. It’s a two-way street.
That sounds strange. People usually are no mind-readers. My mother always said: speak up and ask when you want something. Except - on birthdays and such, you were NOT supposed to ask for cookies or whatever, you had to wait your turn. And even now, when I get together with my sisters (we're all over 60) I find it hard to ask for something
Grrrr!!! My husband does this! Drives me insane! If you want something, USE YOUR WORDS! I’m sorry. I left my crystal ball at home
God help me if the important people in my life actually start reading my mind!
I hate this. Every single person I've dated. "Why are you sad/cross?" "Never mind." "Can I do anything to help." "No." "Are you sure?" "JUST GO!!!" ... ok then. Lunatic.
Never expect your SO to “just know” what you want, or mean, or need. They are NOT mind readers, and expecting them to be then getting angry when they’re not is downright abusive behavior. You better just f*****g TELL me what you want or need, and make yourself CLEAR with your words when you say it, or you are going to have a goddamned unhappy life!!! People who expect that from others are incredibly selfish, as they expect other people, to constantly second guess them—-the the detriment of thinking about their OWN lives. Yeah, I have had experience with this. Not necessarily from my parents, but from a*****e ex-boyfriends. Note the “ex” part of that. Not everything that affects our mental, emotional, and physical health and well-being happens in childhood. There are plenty of m***********s out there who totally mess with our heads when we’re adults too.
I’m sorry that happened to you, but rein in the yelling at people because for every person in your situation, there’s someone who had to deal with people who flipped out on them every time they spoke up and in some cases ALSO flipped out on them for not speaking up, even though that was due to how they behaved when we did speak up. In fact, as someone who had the latter experience, excessive yelling about this issue is something I treat as a red flag.
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That I always have to explain/justify my mood if I’m in a bad or irritable or sad mood. No I don’t. Just let me be!
My dad. He's apparently the only one allowed to be in any kind of a bad mood. If me or my mom have a legitimate reason for a bad mood, we get told we have no reason to be upset and he "deals with more sh!t than both of [us] combined". All he does is sit at home and play CoD.
My dad would just come home at night and flop on the couch until he went to bed. My mom brought him dinner there, us kids brought him the newspaper, his slippers, his cigarettes, the TV guide, switched the channels for him, and anything else he wanted. He was always in a bad mood, always angry. But according to him, he was the only one who had a reason to be angry and there was nothing for us to ever be upset about.
Load More Replies...Actually in my opinion yes you do. If you are pissed off it is almost always because of people around you. Tell them what you are pissed off about and discuss it. Sitting and stewing on it makes it worse. Your inner voice catastrophises and goes negative every time, so stand up, say what is annoying you, and have a grownup conversation. I can't stand this sulking c**p. My current partner does it. Takes her 3 days to get the f**k over herself. It's called "stonewalling" and it is toxic as f**k.
I love my husband to bits, but I also have a lot of anxiety, depression and chronic pain issues, and weird digestive IBS stuff. I adore him, and he's so sweet and caring, but I wish sometimes he wouldn't constantly ask "are you alright?" when it's obvious I'm not. it I'm feeling rough I don't want to explain it every five minutes. please just take my. "I'm in pain" or "I'm feeling really nauseous" or "I'm feeling miserable and nervous" as an answer and stop checking in. it's lovely to ask if you can do anything to help but an every few minutes "are you SURE you're alright" whenI've already said I'm not, but leave me to it is very frustrating
Depending on the situation, just tell them your not that funny, relaxed today. We are human, not robots.
Sometimes you just wake up cranky that day. Doesn’t need to have a cause or a reason. It just is
That when you injure yourself, it’s 100% your fault and that the immediate response is to scold you for being injured, and worry 0% about the injury for a second or two.
EDIT: I remember being at the fair one time and got lost for about 10 minutes. My mom just ran crying to the car because she used to tell us that if we ever got lost, to return to the car.
Pops was still looking for me when I got to the car. My mom’s first words were “your dad is gonna be *pissed* at you!” and yanked my f-ing ear. My dad eventually shows up and his words were “why the f**k did you get lost???”
What is wrong with these people? I feel blessed to never have had such absolutely horrible parents. Just gross. When their folks are old and need care, I hope OP reminds them of this.
I fell off my bike when I was still using training wheels and got my ankle caught in the spokes. Got yelled at for it and because Dad had to pry my ankle loose. No "are you okay" or anything, just yelled at for "being stupid". Now I'm 29 and never learned how to ride.
Same happened to me, but i got back on and learned how to ride. Maybe you should as well, it might feel empowering
Load More Replies...I got lost at the aquarium with my best friend in first grade. Our teacher was the group chaperone. We were immersed in the dolphins and just stared and stared at them and when we finally turned around, were surrounded by strangers. I found a mom with kids and told her we were lost. We eventually found another group from my class. Our teacher came running up to us and slammed us against a wall, Screaming at us! We were shocked. She said we wandered off and blamed it all on us. I didnt sleep for 5 mos cause I was so afraid of the trouble I would get in from my mother. I finally told her the night before teacher conferences and to my surprise she started going off sbout my teacher, not me. She was so mad. One of the few times she was there for me but she also instilled the fear that took so long to tell in the first place. My daughter would have told me something like this the second she got home
Wow, this hits home. I remember running around in the back yard, slipping and breaking my foot. My dad YELLED at me for 15 minutes straight for being so stupid as to run around and cursed all the way to the hospital. And then wonders why I went no contact with the family for 10 years.
Running around in the back yard I split my forehead open to the bone. There was no hesitation taking me to the emergency room but during the ride and for the next week I was berated for being stupid enough to trip over the hose that my mom had left out.
Load More Replies...Just tonight something happened to me that made me realise how different things were in my home I grew up in to how it is in my current home. I tried to push an ice cube out of a plastic ice cube holder and it cracked, the whole plastic cube came off. I cut my finger. In that split second the thought that first came to my mind was "oh c**p, I broke it" while at the same time my mother in law asked me "are you okay, did you cut yourself?". Made me think of how our minds are conditioned...
WALK IT OFF! I've "walked off'" a broken ankle for 2 weeks. When my dad was insisting my daughter get back in the game after a bad soccer injury last week I took her the bathroom AWAY from that attitude. * BTW Coach was cool with her sitting out
If the coach wasn't cool with that, find a better coach
Load More Replies...Setting a specific place to meet when separated, good idea. Making your child feel like crâp for getting lost, not so much.
I set boundaries for what my children should do if they ever lost sight of us and I am proud that my daughter has done the same.
I had a similar experience. My parents were so freakin angry at me that Dad grabbed me right there and busted me so hard I was lifted off my feet for "walking away" when in fact, they left me standing there staring at the lights on a carnival ride. I didn't even know they had walked off, but it was “my fault,” and they were upset with me the rest of the time at the fair. My sister told the whole town that I was so horrible and scared my parents with my bad behavior and to this day uses me as an example of what not to do for her own kids. All I really remember of that night is being so scared they left me behind and then being spanked so hard I cried even harder and dropped my food and coke all over myself. Good times.
That I should always smile and act as though everything is good in my life to people. What happens in our family should never be shared with people outside the family. That I should never share my personal business with anyone. Never be vulnerable or let people know they’ve hurt you. Thanks for making me super stunted at making friends growing up mom. Turns out that talking to people about your life and struggles and being vulnerable forges deep relationships and is a lot healthier. In retrospect it makes sense now how mom never had friends and still has none. She was shocked to see how many friends came out for our wedding and how much they genuinely love us.
I would actually agree with the first paragraph if - and ONLY IF - it is qualified with the phrase "until you feel you can trust that person". While the mom's advice could be a hindrance in real life situations, it should be a mandatory warning for everyone who uses social media.
Between a shamed silence, and being a drama queen, there is a liveable life.
My mother is like this and honestly, over time I understand how right she is. I don't believe in geniune love between friends, because I'm a naive person and was betrayed so many times, I lost count. I don't have a friend to share absolutely everything with (except my husband), although I truly listen and want to help my friends.
Same here. But people also could get bored or even annoyed when you complain. It's quickly too much. So I'm always hesitating. Being also shy and rather introvert, it's probably a miracle that I do have friends. Not only online, also IRL
“The only people that sleep during the day are firefighters and [escorts] - and you aren’t either of those” I still can’t sleep/nap during the day. Lol Added note: The point my parents were trying to make - was sleeping during the day was lazy behavior. I didn’t have a night job (They used those two as an example) I was 10. Still stupid - yes, of course.
You were allowed in the house midday at 10? Pfft! If I wanted to take a nap I would have to curl up in an old racquetball court, or, if I was lucky, go over to my friends house who knew how batsh*t my parents were.
Variations in circadian rhythms. There are indeed “day people” and “night people” and there is nothing wrong with sleeping when one is sleepy. Unless, of course, that sleepiness is fatigue and there’s and underlying medical issue. What the statement above say s is that they’re simple-minded folk or they’re over-simplifying for an agenda.
I envy those that can nap. Takes me too long to settle and then if I do fall asleep, I wake up feeling awful and disoriented.
So totally agree. An afternoon nap is a rare and wonderful thing. Don’t let anybody tell you different
Load More Replies...I am sympathetic to this. Everyone I know who takes afternoon naps achieves about 50% the same results as I do. I find that afternoon nap people tend to do things slower in general, and be much more indulgent of lazy habits like watching tv. You have one life. If you want to spend it sleeping, go ahead, but then don't look for my sympathy when you miss deadlines, fail a course, miss a flight, etc (yes this has all happened to these people). Pay attention, wake up, stop slacking off. Night time is slacking off time.
I was recovering from some serious thyroid issues. I was called and asked what I was doing and I said I'd just woken up from a nap. Then was asked why I was taking a nap, you don't need it at your age (I was in my 30's). Made me feel guilty about everything I did to take it easy and rest to get better.
Never felt sleepy during the day when I was a kid. But then, we always had to go to bed early
Don’t ever ask for help.
As an adult I watched the end of “My Cousin Vinny” and realized how that had been holding me back.
Vinny (a newbie lawyer) wins the case by actually asking for help from his girlfriend instead of trying to do everything himself like he has been the entire movie up to that point. She cinches the case in their favor with her automotive knowledge.
Load More Replies...I'm 44 and still can't ask for help. My grandmother was one of those "Don't bother me, kid" kind of people, and asking for help with anything was bothering people. She also insisted I be groomed to be a proper Southern Belle. That didn't work out so well, for her, I'm tomboy as heck
Seen it at least a dozen times. Still one of the funniest movies ever made.
Load More Replies...I would turn that around to: Never forget to ask for help if you need it, because most people are glad to be able to help, and why deny them that pleasure?.
But on the flip side, I have an independent streak a mile wide. “I’ll do it myself” has been my mantra for my entire life
"Show up at least 30 minutes early to everything, it's better to be early than late and they'll appreciate your initiative to show up early". Turns out showing up before people are even ready is quite annoying to people when you surprise them by showing up early.
It depends. If you're meeting someone somewhere, showing up early is fine. If you're going to someone's home, yes, being that early is unwelcome
How about just show up on time? I suppose not everyone has the same sense of how time works, so I try to be forgiving. It’s difficult at times, because to me time is so predictable that managing it and planning around it isn’t that hard. With map apps giving estimations of travel time, it should be even easier. Don’t be early. Don’t be late. Just be on time.
1/2 hour or 5 hours feels the same if I'm engaged in something. If it is non-engaging 5 minutes feels like an eternity.
Load More Replies...It's good to be a little bit early. But not 30 minutes! Be five minutes early or even ten minutes is fine though. If you have an appointment, and they have a waiting room, 30 minutes isn't a bad thing either. You can just wait and 7f someone skips their appointment, can get in earlier. Also, if you have a job interview, 30 minutes early is a very good thing. You should wait outside though or, if at all possible, in a cafe or something nearby, and go in 5-10 minutes early.
10 minutes is my time. I now set the espected time 10-15 minutes earlier, so I can leave on time (the kids are slowing me down). I think this rule saved me a lot of embarrassment, because there are some reasons one can be late (traffic jam, slower public transportation, difficulties finding the address). I hate it when someone is late every time, I can't have good relationship with chronically late people.
And sometimes you can be taken advantage of by being early, like being expected to provide 30 min. of free labor.
5 minutes is appropriate, 15 at most. We have a PT patient who he and his family don't want to drive home, so they just show up and wait in the lobby sometimes for an hour before there appointment (while I'm on lunch break). The lobby only has 4 chairs because we really don't have long enough wait times to need more, and they take up at least 2 of them for a minimum of 30 minutes. Bugs me way more than it should, and makes me feel like I have to rush my lunch break to bring them back early for their massage appointments. I hide out on those days so they don't see me before I'm ready for them. So yes, 30 minutes early is rude.
Hahah laughs in African. We show up 30 mintues late if we are "punctual", one hour late if we are "on time", two hours late if we are "a bit late", and three hours late if we are a bit slack. This thing of clock watching is definitely not a thing here. Well except corporate sector.
Not to cry because everyone will think you are weak
If someone thinks you’re weak from crying, that’s someone who you shouldn’t care about what they think. At all.
The worst thing my mom ever said was "Do you know how ugly you are when you cry?" No, I didn't...thanks for the decades of repressed emotions. To this day I still have to "allow" myself to cry, even when alone.
Everyone cries at times. It makes us all human. No shame should be involved and most of the time you feel at least a bit better after dealing with the emotion
People who don't cry because they're afraid of what people think? They're the weak ones.
My mother criticized me for crying at my daddy's funeral because it embarrassed her.
THIS one KILLS me EVERYDAY. Children cry. They come into this world and make a breath, a cry. We even make them cry to make sure they're breathing, right? And then, after learning their cries (hungry, wet, bored, scared, pain, etc.) we tell them not to. I can spot a cry. A five year old crying because she got in trouble sounds diff than a Five year old crying because a friend said "you're not my best friend." GIVE them the CHANCE to express their Need, never take that away, whether 0 or 101, M or F, etc.
The vast gulf between "adults" and "children." I'm in my early 50s and I still think of other people as "adults."
It slightly annoys me when people call me "young man." I'm 50. Or when older older ladies are like "ohh, you're still just a babe." I'm like (to myself) Like hell I am! 10 years difference is a bit of difference when you are my age, but damn, I'm not a child.
Apparently I still qualify as a “young woman “ ( I’m 45 )
Load More Replies...I treat everyone above the age of 6 the same. I don't drop my vocab, don't talk down, and expect to see intelligence.
All the elders have passed away in my family. Aunts, uncles and my parents and grandparents. Its all of us cousins now who ARE the elders! Ouch
I, even with having my own kids, still am tempted to sit at the kids table at my family gatherings. They still treat me like a kid. Now, with family gatherings with my husband's family. They actually treat me like a real adult, my kids sit at the same table (one is only 1.5 years old so I have to monitor her food a bit) and our oldest is 4 and has more to adult conversation in her than I did at her age. Everyone loves her sitting with us!
No one can know everything. I'm an adult, and I do know more than any child I know, but every child I know has had at least some life experiences that are different than I've had and therefore may know some things I don't. I'll learn from any source I can.
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I can't wear white after Labor Day.
I can't ever weigh more than 120 pounds.
I can't go swimming after a meal.
I can't do this or that because yadda yadda blah blah blah.
I get #2 & #3, but why white after labour day? (I don't mean that I agree with 2/3.)
The snobs: the wealthy old white women from the 1800s, decided that it's a big faux pas to wear white after Labor Day. They know where they can go. I'm sure most of them are already there.
Load More Replies...Had tk look yo the white after labor day thig it jad soemthing to do with the change of season, you'd usually wear darker clothes for the colder months. It's bit a rule but was recommended back then to separate the classes.
My mom put a lot of stock into people who had a lot of money, drove fancy cars, took fancy vacations. As an adult who is struggling to get by - I realize how ridiculous she sounds/acts. Your friend from high school just
Bought a $3 million house. That’s great for them. I believe they had a large trust fund. I have to work for everything
If the high school friend had a large trust fund, that begs the sarcastic response: "I'm struggling because I was too lazy to be born into wealth." Even if that friend made some of that money, they had a head start in life. Not knocking wealth - but I'd rather put stock in the in-law who grew up in privilege and now prosecutes sex offenders (not poor, but it pays a lot less than corporate law).
It’s ok to have a certain amount of wealth. However, to obsess over expensive things is usually a distraction from unhappiness.
My mom and grandma worshipped wealth and connections. Big houses, fancy cars. Envy, envy, envy. I could make a lot more money than I am. It's not worth it to me. My time off keeps me sane. I still make a good living. I don't envy the fancy cars or big houses. I can pay for what we need and stay mentally healthy. That's enough.
Trust funds come from money made by people no one should have trusted.
Another one: "You can never stand to be a little uncomfortable." My narcissistic mom's way of dismissing my need for anything (food, bathroom, warmth) that would inconvenience her. I still struggle with trying to ignore my own physical needs so I'm not an inconvenience, even if I'm all alone. For example, sometimes I'll wait until I'm almost bursting to finally use the restroom because I grew up hearing, "Can't you hold it for a little bit longer? We'll be there in 20 minutes," or "You just went! How can you have to go again so soon?" The other big thing was being cold all winter long, to the point of having a constant sore throat and getting strep throat at least once or twice every winter. The cold air would make me feel like I was swallowing glass. My parents refused to let me have a space heater or an electric blanket because "it's too expensive." I still struggle with turning up the heat, even though I'm paying it myself. I feel guilty if anyone comes to my house, like they're going to judge me for wasting so much money to be warm. (My normal body temperature is also below 98.6, so I get a lot colder more easily than most people do.) My parents always turned the heat off at night, no matter how cold it was. I finally realized, as an adult, that of course *they* weren't cold. They could cuddle up together and stay nice and toasty. They also didn't have sensitive throats like I do. Anyway, money was a little tight, but looking back on it now, it wasn't *that* tight. We still did all the normal middle-class suburbia things. As an adult, I can't imagine letting my child be cold or denying them a bathroom break or forcing them to eat food they hated because it would inconvenience me to tend to their needs. Some people really shouldn't have kids.
I was in a very similar situation, but my narcissistic father was fairly well off; retired in his 40s, owned a large house in an expensive area and an RV... but acted like I, the daughter he went through all the legal and financial trouble to adopt, was a burden on his budget for wanting such luxuries as "clothes that fit" and "food" and "not closing the vents to my bedroom so none of the heat could get in even though it was in the 30s (Fahrenheit) outside".
This sounds like the mother whose daughter was always feeezing on AITA cause they kept the heat at like 58 degrees and refused to let her have a heater And someone went off on my comment that being cold is suffering and forcing someone to be cold is a form of abuse. I rest my case.
My mom is a FIRM believer that *someone out there* is gonna poison Halloween candy or sneak [illegal substances] in it.
She's still f*****g convinced this happens.
There has never once been single a corroborated case of this happening ever in the history of mankind. Never.
Tootsie roll pops, smarties, Dum Dums, anything that could be easily "tampered with" we were ordered to throw in the trash. She watched us do it just to make sure and checked our candy to see if we missed any.
I'm 38 years old I have my own kids who are trick-or-treat age now. [Illegal substances] are EXPENSIVE nobody is putting f*****g pot into the Halloween cookies. Jail really sucks nobody is sneaking cyanide into the f*****g blow pops.
People who think drug users will put their wares into kids' candy don't know drug users.
I mean, what do they THINK people are trying to achieve? some little child is going to feel weird, like it, and miraculously know which one of many sweets caused it, remember which house, and go back with their pocket money to buy more?
This past Halloween in Indianapolis IN reported I believe that fentyal was found in some Halloween candy.
If you're talking about this: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/police-pill-found-in-halloween-candy-in-middletown-tested-positive-for-methamphetamine/531-b1e50ae6-34ad-4a19-9adf-ac2a07072d45 it wasn't disguised as candy. They doubt it was even given intentionally.
Load More Replies...You must deep clean the entire house a day before guests come over. (So it's freshly cleaned) So any family gathering, visiting for the weekend, family dinners, etc....bleach everything, baseboards, kitchen grout, dust ceiling fans/vents, do all the laundry, etc. We talking hands and knees scrubbing. We "spring cleaned" every month if not more. It's crazy how people can actually visit a lived-in home where maybe the couch hasnt been vacuumed in the last week, or the porch hasn't been swept. People really don't care how clean the inside of your fridge is or if you wiped down the garbage can. I still do it to this day, but not as neurotic.
I clean this way. I make no apologies. It's one less thing for someone with social anxiety to stress about. If the house is clean to my standards, I can concentrate on freaking out talking to my visitors and not on freaking out about the dust bunnies in the corner.
I tidy up if I’m expecting guests, especially older people who will say something if the house isn’t clean, though I tell them I do “working woman’s cleaning”, which is basically if it looks clean enough, it is clean enough. F**k driving myself crazy trying to make everything perfect for some old biddy and old fart couple like my parents. She had 24/7/365 for housework as a housewife, and he never so much as picked his underwear up off the goddamned floor when he changed clothes. Who the f**k are they to dictate housework to a working woman—-and criticize her husband for doing his fair share of it too?
I want to saw a cartoon where the woman was down on the kitchen floor, scrubbing the baseboard under the sink. Her husband asked her what she was doing and she said if anything falls and someone is down here they'll see that it's dirty.Lol you go ahead and clean how ever and how often you want.
as a guest, I would hate that. the smell of bleach makes me feel sick and gives me a headache. I can't use the stuff myself, and being able to smell it makes my time somewhere unpleasant
AGHHG i hate having to deep clean the house when anyone comes over even family😮💨
then dont. if they complain, dont invite them again.
Load More Replies...This is how I manage my own home, but I would never expect this from anyone else. No one needs to clean to my standards, only me. I'm perfectly okay with dust bunnies in YOUR house. I am most comfortable and focused when my place is spotless.
That if you're yourself everyone will leave My folks They are afraid of themselves I love my weird tribe of chosen family
I heard a quote once, not sure who said it, that went something like "my greatest fear is having everyone I know be in the same room with me, because I wouldn't know which mask to wear."
I can relate. I'm autistic and I mask okay-ish, but if I were to really let me be me....I know that I will truly be alone, even moreso than now.
Civilisation is a set of compromises. Make sure you get value, as well as giving it.
Load More Replies...You just have to suck it up. Life’s hard. But I shouldn’t have to just stay quiet though. I should be able to speak up and let someone know when I don’t like something or disagree with it.
Yes, life is hard. But there’s nothing wrong with speaking up and trying to change that, instead of quietly accepting it and not even trying to change it. People don’t understand that collectively we CAN change things for the better. Why do you think those with an agenda continually try to distract us and keep us fighting with each other instead of focusing on exposing that agenda? Divide and conquer. That’s what’s being done to us. If we could put all that b******t aside and come together, we could put all the evil a******s in prison, replace them with truly good people, and create an amazingly equitable world. Never just accept a s****y life, work to change it—-but please avoid becoming a s****y person yourself along the way.
Sounds good. I feel a lot better /S...Life doesn't have to be so hard, but people like this make it harder...
Yeah! Conservatives love it when you speak up! /s
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“It’s not worth the risk”
So much life missed out on not taking a small risk…and I’m not talking about skydiving…more like going into the city late at night to see your favorite band play “you might get mugged, it’s not worth the risk”
No that's called social anxiety and "catastrophic thoughts" (according to google translate, don't know if right words though?), ingrained into your kid!
It's probably more like generalized anxiety. Social anxiety is usually more along the lines of "I can't believe around people because they are all secretly judging."
Load More Replies...Well. With that logic, your bathtub is the most likely place to get hurt or die. Better not take the risk. /s
You had a downvote, it is true about the risk though.
Load More Replies...Money will always be there to make, but sometimes chances are once in a lifetime. And, who knows? Maybe when you take that chance a nice job will be on the other side, too! You can live in your favorite place AND make a living. People do it every single day. It's not really a risk in the end; it's an opportunity.
it is not worth the risk. you can get a much higher quality of the same song on youtube or on itunes.
They insisted socks should always match. Turns out, mismatched socks bring a bit of rebel flair to life. haha
*staring at the one grey sock on the left and the blue one one the right foot* Mhm, but they both have stars and small moons all over, so they match.
And print+solid=match, solid+solid=match, print+print NEVER ALLOWED when getting dressed
I have a mismatch pair of socks. Not because trying to being a rebel, but had two pairs of socks. Lost one sock from each pair and instead of throwing the other socks away, I decided to keep each mismatch sock and pair them together. They have a similar oattern but slighly differrnt color.
"I went into this bar and sat down next to a pretty girl. She looked at me and said, 'Hey, you have two different colored socks on.' I said, 'Yeah, I know, but to me they're the same because I go by thickness.'" - Steven Wright
I stopped caring about matching socks so long ago. They always get eaten by the washer or dryer and I am tired of buying new ones to replace the old ones.
I'm glad my daughters are rebels....I still can't bring myself to wear mismatched socks lol.
That they "have eyes on the back of their head" so basically to say they're always watching me especially when I was little so I wouldn't do something bad. I've never seen their extra eyes so I'm going with ridiculous.
My grandma would say this to me. One day she was turned away from me, so I went to grab a piece of candy from the little plate on the coffee table. "You haven't had dinner yet GoodBoi..." I was so shocked! SHE HAD INVISIBLE EYES ON THE BACK OF HER HEAD! Years later she laughed her dentures out and told me she used the reflection off a picture frame to see me -_-...
My dad kind of did that when I was in middle school. I was definitely naive about it, but I remember him telling me something about not kissing a boy at a dance. He said he would be stopping by to check (which wasn't true, I realize now was just him being a stereotypical "you can't be into boys yet" Dad and probably thought I would catch on). So I spent the whole dance being paranoid about getting too close to the guy I was into 🤦♀️ I tend to take things at face value though.
Don't complain
Maybe, but please, do point out, if it is serious. Like: Help, I am drowning. Hey, that's a dangerous situation and should be addressed. Stop, you are hurting me.
my mum once told me about a time eating out that she was choking, and in order not to cause a scene, she ran to the toilets. she said afterwards she realised how messed up that was. if she hadn't managed to clear the blockage, nobody was there to see her struggling to breathe. she said "I was literally programmed to not cause a scene so much that I went somewhere I could have died if I didn't manage to cough it free, instead of staying around other people who would have been able to help me, because I didn't want to cause a fuss.
Load More Replies...I had a boss who told us "Don't come to me with a complaint if you don't have a solution." Dude, if we had a solution things would have been fixed yesterday.
Paranoia and the worst possible scenario. Me: "I'm going to go ride my bike" My mother: "Make sure you don't get hit by a car. Drivers are reckless and they'll hit you if you're not careful"
Though that shouldn’t deter you from riding your bike. Just don’t be careless, pay attention to your surroundings and be cautious if there are cars around.
Load More Replies...I have a friend with a mom like that. Her mom will still call to tell her not to drive because of potential weather conditions and other ridiculous worries. My friend is almost 50 years old and completely capable of making decisions about her own safety.
yeah she isnt wrong. *at all* the worst possible scenerio has an annoying tendacy to happen very often.
2/2 The worst scenario, can absolutely happen. Just because "you" have decided to venture out into the world, doesn't mean everyone else is going to be extra vigilant in deference to your safety. It's not about scaring you away from doing anything, but you simply cannot go through life assuming that everyone around you is going to catch the things you miss because you refuse to acknowledge that bad things happen to people just like you, every second, of every day of your entire life.
1/2 When i was 8, we lived in very safe, well-to-do, historic town in northern ohio. Our house was less than two blocks from the city center, and being the 90's kids were still capable of having some sort of independence. I'd gone to the baseball card shop after school, and my mom was going to pick me up across the street at the library. I'm at the crosswalk, and i see my mom sitting at traffic light, 50 feet away. Walk signal turns, i cross the street. I was 3 feet from the curb, and saw in my peripheral vision a car approaching, i turned my head, saw one of those giant late 70's early 80's boat of a Buick, or Cadillac barreling towards me. Next thing i know, i'm laying in the middle of the road, covered in blood. Some old granny, ran the light, doing about 40mph. I got tossed 8 feet in the air, (and and managed to, literally, walk away with only a 30x15mm gash on the back of my head, which remains a small bald spot 32 years later). My mother watched this happen....
You can't eat warm food for breakfast
In my household, we can't eat cold or uncooked foods for breakfast...
If I ever wanted something, "You think you deserve that?" I would like to say that I'm unlearning this but it isn't happening. If I expressed insecurity, "God made you the way he wanted you to look, you're saying that he messed up and made something ugly and that is very offensive to him so pray for forgiveness." If I wanted junk food, "You'll end up fat like me and your dad, and have a heart attack at 18, and die young." If I wanted to hang out with friends, "You don't care about us anymore and all you want to do is spend time with these satanic school kids." If I was in a bad mood, "You have such an easy life, you don't deserve to be upset" If I didn't want to be touched, "You're hurting my feelings." If I wanted my dad to stop singing because I was starting to overstim, "don't bridle his joy." If I wanted to buy clothes from the men's section or cut my hair, "You're trying to look like a boy and that will send you to hell." Parents: Please don't do this to your kids.
I'm very sorry you went through this and are still going through it. Religion is the biggest curse on humanity of all time.
Load More Replies...My parents tried very hard to get me to never question anything about what made me so different from other kids. It wasn't until I was in my 20s that they even let me know about the existence of Asperger's (which I very much have). And any questions about my very strange crotch were silenced immediately. They never wanted to talk about why I was born in a hospital known for neonatal care over 150 miles from anywhere they'd ever lived before or since either.
My parents never, ever, let me speak up if I had a difference of opinion. I'm not talking about 'talking back' or sassing them, but a genuine discussion. I learned to not argue, go along to get along, and do what people tell you to without question. Still trying to shake that mentality.
Same, no one else's opinion mattered and if you tried to speak up for yourself, you were selfish.
Load More Replies...I suffer from what I call "touch hunger". I always felt my mom didn't love me like she did my brothers and sister because I'm the reason she married my dad. She was 6 months pregnant with me when they got married. Then when I was 6 months old she broke her hip and I was switched from being breastfed to a bottle, and since I was old enough to hold the bottle I wasn't held. My mom loved me as much as she could, but nothing like my siblings.
I am highly anxious about unfamiliar places and situations. I attribute this to my parents saying that "We aren't THOSE kind of people" when I wanted to do something completely typical that I see plenty of other people doing. My favorite example is wanting to go to a restaurant galled Gojo's. Her response was "WE can't possibly go THERE." When I was in my 20s, I happened to see the place again and go in. It was a completely typical Greek-owned family diner. I could never figure out if her attitude was "cheap" or "elitist" or what.
yeah lots of familiar stuff. Parents are toxic ... especially my parents generation (boomers).
At the time, I thought I had a pretty typical childhood, but by today's standards, not only I but practically everybody I knew growing up was a victim of child abuse, and probably a good third of the parents, if it happened today, would have been prosecuted for child neglect, child abuse, etc.
If I ever wanted something, "You think you deserve that?" I would like to say that I'm unlearning this but it isn't happening. If I expressed insecurity, "God made you the way he wanted you to look, you're saying that he messed up and made something ugly and that is very offensive to him so pray for forgiveness." If I wanted junk food, "You'll end up fat like me and your dad, and have a heart attack at 18, and die young." If I wanted to hang out with friends, "You don't care about us anymore and all you want to do is spend time with these satanic school kids." If I was in a bad mood, "You have such an easy life, you don't deserve to be upset" If I didn't want to be touched, "You're hurting my feelings." If I wanted my dad to stop singing because I was starting to overstim, "don't bridle his joy." If I wanted to buy clothes from the men's section or cut my hair, "You're trying to look like a boy and that will send you to hell." Parents: Please don't do this to your kids.
I'm very sorry you went through this and are still going through it. Religion is the biggest curse on humanity of all time.
Load More Replies...My parents tried very hard to get me to never question anything about what made me so different from other kids. It wasn't until I was in my 20s that they even let me know about the existence of Asperger's (which I very much have). And any questions about my very strange crotch were silenced immediately. They never wanted to talk about why I was born in a hospital known for neonatal care over 150 miles from anywhere they'd ever lived before or since either.
My parents never, ever, let me speak up if I had a difference of opinion. I'm not talking about 'talking back' or sassing them, but a genuine discussion. I learned to not argue, go along to get along, and do what people tell you to without question. Still trying to shake that mentality.
Same, no one else's opinion mattered and if you tried to speak up for yourself, you were selfish.
Load More Replies...I suffer from what I call "touch hunger". I always felt my mom didn't love me like she did my brothers and sister because I'm the reason she married my dad. She was 6 months pregnant with me when they got married. Then when I was 6 months old she broke her hip and I was switched from being breastfed to a bottle, and since I was old enough to hold the bottle I wasn't held. My mom loved me as much as she could, but nothing like my siblings.
I am highly anxious about unfamiliar places and situations. I attribute this to my parents saying that "We aren't THOSE kind of people" when I wanted to do something completely typical that I see plenty of other people doing. My favorite example is wanting to go to a restaurant galled Gojo's. Her response was "WE can't possibly go THERE." When I was in my 20s, I happened to see the place again and go in. It was a completely typical Greek-owned family diner. I could never figure out if her attitude was "cheap" or "elitist" or what.
yeah lots of familiar stuff. Parents are toxic ... especially my parents generation (boomers).
At the time, I thought I had a pretty typical childhood, but by today's standards, not only I but practically everybody I knew growing up was a victim of child abuse, and probably a good third of the parents, if it happened today, would have been prosecuted for child neglect, child abuse, etc.
