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No matter how much we talk about equality between men and women, oftentimes stressing how much has already been achieved over decades of hard work, it seems that there are a lot of things that still need to be done, and extensive changes implemented. The problem of double standards between men and women is not that hard to notice, especially in some common everyday life occurrences. Having this in mind, Reddit user @u/killywayx decided to ask people “What is something that is considered ‘normal’ for a man to do, but if a woman does it then they will receive backlash?”. 

The question that received 30.5k upvotes and 15k answers showed that no matter how modern our society is, it is still full of old and entrenched behaviors. Some of the examples included things that are related to looks: women not being able to take off their t-shirt while for men it’s quite a normal thing to do, or having to constantly take care of body hair so you won’t be considered messy and neglectful, although for men, it’s not a problem. Some examples also touched upon social issues such as women who don’t want to have kids receiving quite a lot of backlash, whereas it becomes understandable when men don’t want a family. When it comes to career, women who are strong leaders and value proper work ethics are considered cold and emotionless, while men who have the same traits are seen as respectable bosses. 

What are some of the things that you have noticed to be considered normal for men but don’t apply to women? Don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments down below!

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#1

30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Have an angry reaction. If it's a woman WAY too many people assume it's PMS or an overreaction.

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Con O Cuinn
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Getting shouted at constantly by your spouse. For women, it's abuse. But men are just expected to suck it up

tuzdayschild
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No you are not expected to take it. No one, male or female should put up with abuse, physical or verbal. If it doesnt stop, get out and get safe.

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PandaPops
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I asked a grumpy colleague if he was Manstrating as he had asked me if I was on my period a few weeks before when I was grumpy..

RafCo (he/him)
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay, but MANstruating is a real thing, and I will die on this hill dammit! Men have hormonal shifts throughout their lives and throughout a year. It may not be as predictable as women's, but that just makes us so much worse.

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StrangeOne
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women make that assumption about other women, too. I've heard it by my co-worker and I just wanted to slap her. Women are angry about a lot of things, just like men get angry. Much for the same reasons. Yes to GET OVER IT.

Ladytron
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. And when women are angry it's always about "hormones" (pms or pregnancy) so it's considered "not valid". I hate that assumption. Yes, I do tend to have less patience with stupid things while pms-ing or being pregnant BUT it's the very same anger I would have regardless. I just don't feel the same need to hide it (and sometimes that's a good thing compared to feeling the need to pretend everything is fine when it's not because you don't want to be "difficult")

Katiekat
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assume, and you make an a*s out of you and me. Said it many times to people's faces. Happy to scream at someone that I'm well over a decade post-menopausal, to humiliate them for assuming at all. Anyone who tries to negate or minimize someone's valid emotions is an abuser or close enough anyway. Next!

Autistic apricot
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Oh, you must just be on your period” what does that have to do with anything?

DJ
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have been on the receiving end of angry screaming fits by both men and women while trying to do my job. Both are equally awful. Please people, just stop!

xolitaire
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When women get angry they are either "emotional" or get gaslighted into being a "Karen". It'S disgusting.

Kenneth McCartney
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My ex wife was a shrew. She scared all my friends away, men and women.

Ghaniyah Verma
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women have emotions and are allowed to feel.

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    #2

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Not all of these will apply to everyone or every circumstance, but I think that most of these are fair. 1. Asking a guy out or asking a guy to marry you. It's seen as pushy or impatient and frowned upon. 2. Going hiking alone. People don't tend to raise their eyebrows at a man roughing it in the wilderness, but it's seen as reckless or dangerous if a girl does it. 3. Being assertive, standing up for yourself, and being confrontational. A lot of times it's seen as rude when it's seriously just somebody standing up for themselves. 4. Eating large portions of food. If a woman (even a skinny and fit one) is at an event she enjoys and fills a plate with junk food, it tends to raise a few eyebrows. It's considered unladylike. When a guy does it, it's viewed as normal and healthy appetite. 5. Dealing with grief. When a guy doesn't cry, it's stoic. When a woman doesn't cry, it's cold and unhealthy. 6. Caring little about appearance. If a guy goes a few days without shaving and has some stubble, it isn't frowned upon very much. If a girl goes without shaving her legs it's disgusting. 7. Masculime interests. A guy can like cars and video games and sports without question. But if a girl likes those things, it's "because she wants a guy" or "she's faking it" and she has to prove her worth and knowledge. 8. I know it's been said a lot, but sleeping around. It really is a very high double standard. It seems like the pressure is usually placed on women to be the defenders of sexuality. But sometimes we want to get down and dirty too. And I don't think anyone should be shamed for that -- male or female. That said, I do think that men face a lot of backlash and hardships as well, especially for doing things that normal women do like being alone with children, having open emotions, caring about appearance a lot, etc. I do think women face backlash, even sometimes for behaving like a stereotypical woman (having strong emotions, wearing makeup, wanting to show some skin...) At the end of the day, a little bit of understanding goes a long way. :) Let's all be kind to everyone around us! :)

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    PattyK
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    #2, going hiking alone — it IS dangerous, at least in the Southern California area. Homeless men, who are EVERYWHERE, will harass a woman when they wouldn’t think of approaching a man.

    tuzdayschild
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen on the news where 2 women separate women were murdered while hiking or jogging alone just this month. It's not right but we have to smart.

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    Emma S
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes to all of these and especially number 3!! An assertive man in congratulated on his leadership skills and standing up for himself. An assertive woman is often labelled as 'mouthy' 'pushy' or a 'trouble maker."

    Lori
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, bragging about sex for a guy, he's a stud, for a woman, she's a whore. Showing dominance in a conversation, or getting angry is also judged differently, coming from a woman.

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hiked alone plenty of times. Doing anything alone is a risk, but I live my life, not my fears. I'm also a violent little baggage, and would not hesitate to make blood run if attacked.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are very rigid stereotypical roles for the sexes and stepping outside of them makes people feel uncomfortable with you. Luckily some of those barriers have been/are being broken down. Maybe my grandchildrens' grandchildren will live in a society where this BS no longer exists - I don't see it happening any time sooner..

    Scarlett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Going hiking alone is always dangerous for everyone. You have no buddy and no person to rely on if you fall or something.

    Hobby Hopper
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This depends very much on location. If it's an area that's known to have problem bears, for example, then I could see your point. Or if it's isolated enough that you'd have trouble getting back out to get help if you were injured, then that at least warrants consideration. But, those are risks people should be able to weigh for themselves and decide if they are willing to risk going solo.

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    Anne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The hiking one - that's because it is more dangerous for women alone in the woods. Because of creepy (usually) men in those woods.

    Well-Dressed Wolf
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heh, I was the girl in #7 growing up. All my friends were boys. I liked insects, cars, fighter planes, lizards, video games, etc. I’m still that girl. When voice chat first became a “thing” in video games, I had to defend myself quite often to the other players that I was actually a woman in her 20s and not “a 12-year-old boy” like they all insisted I sounded like. I was the only female in most matches/games for a while XD

    dxisy xo
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im 13 rn and i have screaming matches with guys in games trying to stand up against gaming misogyny culture its disgusting

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    RandomFrog(He/They️‍️)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Number three!! At a school assembly this guy litterally leaned across me to yell at his friend, yelled in my face, spit all over me so I shoved him and said you need to get tf out of my personal space (he had one hand on my left should the other on my right leg, so yeah he was leaning all the way across me and had been screaming in my ear the whole damn assembly) and when I told my mom she goes you need to watch your tone and don’t be mean to people. Wtf??? I’m sure if a guy did that it’d be fine but noooo becuase im a bio girl.

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    #3

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Having body hair

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    WindySwede
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get over it! It's not your body!

    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It should be personal preference. I personally don't enjoy feeling little hairs blowing in the wind on my legs, and I don't like how pit hairs hang on to odors, or the way it itches. But some people don't care and that's okay. There are men who shave their body hair, too. To some, that is weird.

    Jef Bateman
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am pretty old, and it seemed like this was on its way to being normalized when I was younger. For some reason our culture went the other way, and now it is really unusual to see a woman with leg hair (USA). I heard a teenager who saw a woman with leg hair at the pool comment that he thought women couldn't grow it.

    LynzCatastrophe
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An incident last summer annoyed me so much. I'm tall with back problems, shaving my legs is an extreme sport, so I don't do it often. I was wearing capris so a bit of leg was exposed and my mom and sister spent a lot of time pointing out my body hair and how it was unhygienic not to shave and just unsightly. I pointed to my uncles hairy legs in his shorts and asked what the difference was. "It's expected from women, it's just different, that's all." I wore shorts out of spite the next day.

    A Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pretty much stopped shaving after I progressed more with stopping on caring what people thought of me.

    Tash
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate it when people say underarm hair on women is unhygienic....if its not for men, why would it be for women?!!

    Just Jeff
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Growing up with the idea that women don't have body hair makes it seem gross at first, but I really think this is something I could get used to. Might take some time though. Just being honest.

    MimSorensson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing strange about that. What one is raised with sticks hard.

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    Red Hair Blue Soul
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Humans are mammals and we have hair. It's natural. Get over it

    El Dee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women have much less body hair now than when I was young, everywhere must be shaved now. But when I was young it was acceptable to have hairy arms, sideburns and not have to even trim your pubes..

    Jack S
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    3 years ago

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    I'm don't even think men should have body hair. It's f****n nasty lol. But as StrangeOne says. It's personal preference. I'm not gonna b***h about it if a woman has a hairy bod.

    Potato
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here, have an upvote. I think people may have misunderstood. As mammals, it's totally natural for us to have hair, but that hair also traps oil and dirt, so it can be considered unhygienic--but it's equally natural and unhygienic for both sexes.

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    #4

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Calling it "babysitting" when watching their own children

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    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always corrected people on this whenever they tried saying my kid's dad was "babysitting". Her Dad even called it "babysitting". Parenting would've been a lot easier to cope with if I didn't feel like a single parent in a 2 parent family.

    Ian Reynolds
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know a single father who calls it babysitting. I have a daughter, and I get angry if anyone says that I am babysitting, I am not babysitting I am parenting!!

    Ian B
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate when people say this to me at the store. No, I'm not babysitting, I'm being a dad and taking care of my own kids. Equal partnership.

    Audra Sisler
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Used to P**S me off when my y husband said this!!! Uugghhhh 😠

    Brendan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is, of course, wrong to call it babysitting. But this remark usually comes from someone observing a Dad alone with his kids.

    Joshua Moore
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a divorced guy, I've never once in my life referred to watching or having my kids as babysitting. I've always said "This is my time or my weekend with my kids or little monsters" because I actually enjoy babysitting my kids. 😜😂

    Mikey Kliss
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Male here. I got yelled at for doing that so I'm not sure about the "no one bats an eye" part

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I notice this is less of a thing now..

    Ursula Watson
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is annoying, yes, and add to this ".......my husband helped.........". This is usually things done around the house. It's his house too. He didn't help, he just did his share.

    Susan Mercurio
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I confronted a guy in the playground when he said that he was "babysitting for his wife." I said, "Oh? I'm sorry - I thought you said that they were YOUR children." He had the grace to look embarrassed.

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    #5

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Walk around and be treated fairly in Iran.

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    kitten levels tokyo
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Boy I hear my women friends complain about this one every day.

    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aaaaaaaaaand that's another country where I, a solo female world traveler, won't be spending my hard-earned money. Crappy human rights and women's rights? No thanks, plenty of other, safer places to go in the world. Ya need to fix that.

    Hobby Hopper
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're trying to fix it, and they're getting killed for it.

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    MG Lorange
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love to travel to the middle east but as a woman alone it seems frightening .

    Keley Babs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or Qatar, or Saudi Arabia, or Turkey, or Pakistan....

    Klara Lorinczi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Iran just sucks all around. Those people really need to stand up for themselves.

    ThatOneWriter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering everything going on in Iran right now, this should be at the very top

    censorshipsucks
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "looking after the kids" (7 syllables). "babysitting" (4 syllables). It might just be an efficiency thing?

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    #6

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Age, gain weight, fart, be sexually active, raise her voice, don't tolerate being interrupted,...

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    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last night, I farted in front of my wife. She then did a louder fart, and said, "I see yours, and raise you mine". Farts are, and always will be, hilarious!

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never want to be told "watch your tone" and be called " Lady" ever again. I never want to be told "You look so tired. Are you sick?" or hear my mom comment on a celebrity's aging appearance. I never want to be asked about how many men I've slept with. (Although that doesn't happen much.) And I NEVER want to be interrupted again. That is something I'm working on. People can wait for me to finish speaking entirely before it's their turn to talk. I get interrupted so much by people all through the years it's difficult for me to even think how I'm finishing my sentence.

    kitten levels tokyo
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always thought not farting loudly in public was a source of pride for women. If it is secretly driving you crazy and you want to do it, go ahead. Blame it on a nearby friend to have your cake and eat it too.

    Jane Cortez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knowing more about a technical or aka *masculine* subject, Like plumbing, carpentry, electrical, plastering, painting or being capable and dealing with the fallout from fragile, bruised egos…. My husband is very proud of me and my handiness around the house, thanks to my father and Grandfather teaching me. I can open a glass jar: technique- run the lid under scalding hot water all the way around, then tap the edge of the lid and simply twist with a rewarding ‘pop’ sound as the seal breaks and men in the immediate vicinity feel just a little bit, erm, shall we say, surprised? This takes a bit of technique…. GASP! Being able to carry impressively heavy loads without requiring assistance! I am a very good shot with a rifle, ( target, hunted with my Grandfather until my early twenties, now I would never shoot a living thing). Not being deferential to ‘alpha’, brash or patriarchal men but instead being clear, concise and assertive. Sadly, I used to camp by myself for a week…

    Jane Cortez
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    or two without a single thought. Nowadays I simply wouldn’t, regardless of gender it isn’t safe, aside from the threat of other humans, there are bears etc, accidents to consider. Especially is being athletic! Literally, for those who suffer from an inferiority complex ANYTHING that threatens that precarious sense of self will be overtly or covertly denigrated.

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    LynzCatastrophe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    During lockdown, both hubby and I gained weight, it was noticeable in both of us. I had comments, suggestions on losing weight, actual inquiries if I was pregnant. Not one person said anything to him.

    Samara Messer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women don't fart, they just panty fluff. 😂

    James Foote
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have an ileostomy so I can't fart anymore. My wife does enough for the both of us, lol. I grew up in a family where farts were completely normal and funny so I have no problem with it.

    Lori
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men are usually considered old and dignified, women are viewed as old and past their prime!

    Donny Bereznak
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You described my wife, and I still love her.

    Bruce Horton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bad behavior for either sex, being just as much of a pig as some men is not a step forward for womankind.

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    #7

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Not wanting kids. When a man is good with kids and/or wants kids some day, he is called "a catch" (you know, in combination with other good traits), meaning that the opposite (not being good with kids and/or not wanting kids some day) is common and normal, but not great. A woman who does not want kids or is awkward with kids is seen with an unkind eye.

    ChibiSailorMercury , Eric Lewis Report

    zak
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't want kids, and a woman who doesn't want kids is "a catch" to me 🙂

    Lisa H
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 36 with 0 desire for children, hoping to find someone like that, too.

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    Samara Messer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never wanted kids and seemed to attract single dads looking for child-free women since they didn't want more kids. Then they got offended if I turned them down because they wanted me to be a mother to their kids.

    Dumpster Fire
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "A woman who does not want kids or is awkward with kids is seen with an unkind eye." Except by potential partners who ALSO do not want kids.

    SobyKay
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES. I am a woman who never wanted kids and its made for some REALLY weird conversations. Why do ppl who have/want children assume it is so natural for everyone to be that way and if you dont theres something really wrong with you?? If more ppl who shouldnt have kids didnt, the world would be less full of traumatized adults.

    Helen Waight
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I say I don’t like kids, I get advised to get therapy. By medical professionals! And then they’ll deny me sterilisation. My husband says he doesn’t like kids, he just gets a vasectomy no problems.

    Erin Ward
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 42, my mom still says she doesn't know what she did wrong because I don't want kids. So weird

    SobyKay
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your mom should really appreciate you as a unique individual with her own wants, desires, and plans for life, and not an extension of herself. You be you - I for one appreciate you!

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    Felicia
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's because women are wired to want kids and be a mother, procreation. I didn't want kids at all!!! Then I had my 1st an yes it's a pain in the @$$ but their snuggles make up for it :) people need to respect others lifestyle choices. Just mind ya business Nancy!

    Jan Bowyer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not wanting kids is perfectly fine, but some (mostly men in my experience) people cannot stand the idea. Apparently those people are so caught up in gender roles that a non-conformist threatens their entire existence. Their problem, not yours.

    Tabitha
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't want kids for the longest time and truly thought I'd go my whole life without having one. I can't even count the number of times people would tell me "Oh you'll change your mind one day!" Leave me alone, people! Just because I did end up with a child is still none of their business!

    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have an adult kid, and no plans for any other kids. I'm in my late 30s. This is my time, now. I don't want to catch up what I think I missed out on for being a parent in my 20s. But I know I have all the time and freedom to do some great things. Parenting is really not for everyone and it's everyone's life to live. Just live it.

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    #8

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Keep their last name after marriage.

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    Amy Taylor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My friend took his wife's name because he had a Lon, complicated last name that people were constantly butchering. His wife had an easy last name, lol

    Brocken Blue
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is exactly what my husband did. It’s amazing how much s**t we still get about it from some of his family members 🙄

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    LilliVB
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends on the country. Where I come from almost nobody does it anymore. Everyone keeps their own last name after marrying (I come from Italy)

    Soosh_tr
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quebec too, we all keep our names when we wed. To get your husband's name you have to file for a name change. This legislation is provincial so its not the same across Canada. I kept my name.

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    ScarletRos
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been married twice and kept my last name. I never understood why people would go through all the hassle of changing their name. My current husband agreed that our son should have my last name because it’s simple, three letters, very difficult to misspell while his name is constantly misspelled and sounds a bit like a swear word.

    Cecilie Hammershøy
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I use each other's last names as middle names: My name * his last name * my last name His name * my last name * his last name. In my country (Denmark) I think it's pretty much 50/50 on which last name you take.

    Seonag Udell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My female cousin and her husband used her last name. Mainly because my cousin is a teacher and her husband's last name was Pratt.

    Huddo's sister
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mt friend's mum is a teacher and chose to keep her name, as her husband's is Dix.

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    Con O Cuinn
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I do get married, they can take my name or keep their own, I don't care. Just no double-barrelled fuckery

    Clarf
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will never understand this one. I kept my last name. I love my last name, it's who I am. My husband doesn't own me. If you want to change it, but all means, that's your choice and your right, but don't give me a hard time for wanting to keep my name that's been mine my whole life.

    Mindy Megas-Loucks
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was almost 40 when I got married. I hadn't intended to change it at all, my husband sort of wanted me to. As a compromise, I hyphenated. Pretty much everyone--INCLUDING my husband--just refers to me by my birth name.

    Deborah Harris2
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well usually men keep their names lol, I kept my ex husbands surname mainly because of our children, but so many bills, licenses, documents were all in the surname it would have been a pain to change them all .

    Rachel Ratty
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kept my surname - no-one even mentioned it - not sure it is such a big thing in the UK?

    Rosie Hamilton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think it is either. I know quite a few people who kept their surname and one fella who took hers as he felt his was ugly sounding.

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    #9

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Not being you child’s primary care giver. Normal for a dad. Failure for a mum.

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    Justin Smith
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about failure for either.

    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why should it be a failure? Not being a primary parent doesn't mean not acting as a parent at all. Some parents take of their kids equally and there is no primary parent. Besides, all it means being a "primary caregiver" is the first to be contacted in emergencies and being called upon for other things involving the kid. It doesn't mean one parent is doing less parenting and not spending time with the kids.

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    Brendan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Leave working mums alone. It's hard enough juggling work and parenting, without people casting judgement!

    Tammy Moos
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband was retired medically. When we had our son I was working and came off on maternity leave. Went back to work when our son was 1 and my husband was praised as a an amazing dad. Now I'm not arguing he was amazing, but I worked a min of 8hrs a day at a stressful job and came home to take over for him so he could sleep. Then I was told I should work less, stay at home more and give my husband a break!!!!!

    Martina Moreau
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I so feel this one. My ex-husband is the primary caregiver for our now 17 year old daughter and always has been. He stayed home with her while I worked, until we had our second child, who had special needs. I was his primary caregiver. I've always felt "less than" because I am not the typical mother figure to her like her dad is. It's not a failure, she has a "mother", he just happens to have a penis. Because I chose to work and support my family doesn't make me any less. So infuriated that people treat others this way

    Catpawsarethebest
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe this one is not so much about the "bad woman" vibe... From the babys perspektive the mother biologically us the one who can keep it alive. They are biologically connected both in the sense of breastfeeding and the skin-to-skin contact which is a very important factor in surveival and always has been.

    Kostas Tsen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand what "primary care giver" means exactly. Where i come from, a mother is the person that by definition represents child care and love, and this reflects on all aspects of law and society. The father on the other hand is demanded to compensate for his - unfairly attributed and often unrealistic - second place in loving his childer with financial support. And no matter the effort or result in any aspect, financial or personal, he will never be granted an equal status because he is "not the mama".

    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the parent, or person who's has the main responsibility for the child, and the person who deals with the schools and family doctor appts, and traditionally, has the kids living either all or most of the time with them. Schools and doctors normally automatically assume it's the mother, or female caregiver, who is deemed primary. Some Dads, who have equal or full custody of their kids will get told to relay messages to the Mother, or ask to speak with the Mother, totally ignoring the Dad.

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    R. McTavish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Single dad, here. I take issue with this.

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    #10

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Shave your hair off.

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    Deborah Harris2
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had a lot of friends shave their heads for 'Stand up to Cancer' , none had any comeback because of it xx

    Headless Roach
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't shave your hair off, but don't have body hair. Make up your minds, will you? 🙃

    ZombieSushi386
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fixing to do this for Oct/breast cancer awareness month. I can't wait. Debating on whether to dye it pink as well

    enohPilivE
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I'm just kinky...but I'd find it incredibly attractive if my wife did this. I wouldn't be able to keep my hands from massaging her head...

    Amy Taylor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the punk rock scene, women shaved their heads and no one cared, lol

    Lene
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I let my mom shave my hair off when I came home from boarding school when I was ca 17. I looked like Sinead O'Conner (I was told). Lol. Then I had a bf who, when I had my hair shaved off ca a year later, cried and talked about ending his life.... because I HAD SHAVED OFF MY HAIR!!!! that guy was such a huuuuuge mistake. I hope he has a miserable life.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in the 70s there were models with shaven heads, it looked beautiful. Maybe we should bring this back..

    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had family who hated when my then bf buzzed his head. They said it made him look like a skin-head. He would be called "Nazi" and racist by strangers sometimes. People do judge anyone for anything these days. There was a girl who went to the news after she was fired from her waitressing job for shaving her head in solidarity for her friend who was going through chemo treatments. She was told her look was "too extreme" for their dress code. Imagine that. What if she were the one who was uncontrollably loosing her hair?

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do like a nice head of hair, but I wouldn't give a woman grief if she wanted to not have the hassle of hair care.

    Captain Kyra
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I shaved my hair during lockdown, loved it, but yeah people reacted oddly. They make assumptions about a woman with a shaved head.

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    #11

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online driving an 18 wheeler.... they s**t when i get out.....it is just a truck.....i can drive a semi, too

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    TheAquarius1978
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    S**t lol, i remember a few decades a go, when a bus company here got its 2 first female bus drivers, those busses where full to capacity for 2 or 3 weeks, just by idiots that wanted to see a woman drive a bus.

    Amy
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get this s**t all the time too, except with an airplane.

    Chucky Cheezburger
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More power to ya...last thing I ever wanted to do was get a CDL... But here I am.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People act like its mind-blowing that women can learn skills. Any skills.

    UpQuarkDownQuark
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was recently on a city bus zipping through the narrow streets of a Chicago neighborhood, and all I could think about what that I, a guy, just don’t have the coordination to do that, but to the driver, a woman, it was just another day at work.

    Patle Morton
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in ‘87 I started driving tractor trailers. Some places the guys would come out and look since it was a novelty to them. Ugly days, sometimes, especially from truckers from one particular state. They were hateful!

    Stannous Flouride
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not like the driver is pushing the darned thing.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My stepdaughter is the instructor who teaches "Ice Road Truckers" in Alaska. I love seeing the look on the guys' faces when she hops out of the truck. To top it off, she's only about 5'5

    simply.Taz
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't an 18-wheeler also known as a semi?

    Natalie H
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Silly boys, trucks are for girls

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    #12

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online a) having sex b) not having sex c) smiling and laughing a lot d) not smiling and laughing “enough” e) not knowing how to cook f) not doing house chores g) having kids and having a career at the same time

    0_0moon0_0 , dreamponderCreate Report

    Stacey Rae
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We just can't seem to win

    RandomFrog(He/They️‍️)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We don’t do it w a guy we’re a whore and a b***h, we do it with the guy we’re a hoe or a s**t we get pregnant we’re a hoe we get an abortion we’re the devil we keep the child we’re too young and it’s our fault for getting knocked up and keeping it. Litterally no way to win.

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    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So if you're going to be judged, and you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, the only sane response is PLEASE YOURSELF FIRST, and don't worry about judgmental idiots. Problem solved.

    Jack S
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm starting to think I may have actually been raised right after all. Non of these are an issue imo.

    Kaitlyn Berry
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having kids and a career… or having kids and not having a career. Or not having or wanting kids. Or having too many kids. This could go on forever.

    Jake B
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women do most of the cooking, but it’s a fight for us to be a Chef. WTF?

    Felicia
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im.sorry but EVERYONE should know how to cook a few things. Not just foe your own survival but piece of mind.

    dxisy xo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes it is a basic human need. very important to know how to cook.

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    #13

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Being old

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    Stacey Rae
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please correct me if I'm wrong but as an aging women I feel older women are the least respected/ revered (?) / unaccepted (?)... Would appreciate others insights.

    Jef Bateman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it is related to our youth-obsessed, appearance-obsessed culture. I think most of the disrespect comes from youngish people. I spend a lot of time with old people (no spring chicken myself), and they tend to be less judgy about how people look.

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    Sarah Gilbert
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a 46 year old female and look forward to being old. I'm so much happier now with myself and care less about what others think about me. I have a physical disability but am active so have given few F#^(s about others opinion of me for many years.

    Frances Pitchounetta
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At work. Being a man in his forties: he has experience. Being a woman in her forties: she is close to retirement.

    Samara Messer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think women (men, too) can be attractive at any age but overall, you are seen as undesirable after 40, maybe even after 35. When I used to do online dating, a lot of the men my own age and older specified women no older than around 32.

    Honu
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, when women are not seen as sexually desirable, some people see them as having no value, and often simply stop seeing them at all.

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    Brendan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree that women are listened much less when they are older, but I think that happens to men too.

    Natalie
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I admire all older women, age is so beautiful

    Helen Jane Witten
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me, being 61, it's like we have no relevant opinions anymore. I've given up trying to socialize so I'll just stick with my cat and dog. At least they put up with my ruminations :)

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better than the alternative, and another great way to vet insecure, inauthentic people. Can't deal with other people being old? Then leave, no loss to me.

    Kim Steffen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pissed me off when I was in my early thirties and people starting calling me Sir.

    Klara Lorinczi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one calls me sir but I hate it when they call me madam.

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    #14

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Normal bodily functions

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    Tabitha Frost
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, are you saying women urinate??? OH THE HUMANITY!! /s

    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't be ridiculous! Women don't urinate. The fluid evaporates from their body, creating a rose-scented mist.

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    GirlFriday
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Girls don't poop.

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they don't fart either, do they. /S with a snort laugh.

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    kitten levels tokyo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it is high time as a society that we realize A) Women are every bit as disgusting and gross as men, and B) It would be best to leave them to it.

    Whitney Anderson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like being sweaty!! "if you sweat a lot after a hard workout then its just gross" I am a female long distance runner (16 years old) and i sweat a lottt, usually more than the boys but I've just learned to deal with it because #1. I cant control it! and #2. because that's my body keeping me cooled down, so thank you body for caring about me!

    Headless Roach
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a really crappy double standard.

    Bgray450
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And there needs to some sort of seminar, after you turn 60 or so, about the surprising and sometimes hilarious changes time does to our bodies!

    Sami-Jo Ross
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first time I belched after chugging a soda my ex stared at me like I had three heads. I thought it was because it was so loud and I said excuse me, and all he said was that I belched like a dude.

    Isabel Care
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Including illness. Even some women doctors dismiss women's pain as us "making a fuss"

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    #15

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Make reasonable complaints

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    GirlFriday
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SO MUCH THIS!

    Lisa H
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    RIGHT?! I feel like men who have reasonable complaints are just that: reasonable. Women are labeled as Karens. Just FYI, this is just my own experience as a woman, I can't speak to the men here, but this is just my own personal experience.

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    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went to the Salisbury House with my mom one day. It's like a cafeteria style diner. I got myself some fresh fruit. So I thought. When I picked up a strawberry there was a carpet of green blue grey mould on the under side. Grossed out I took the fruit bowl up to the counter and told the staff, and they let me get another fruit bowl or, actually I think they didn't let me get anything to replace it. The staff just said thanks for letting them know and that was it. When I came back to the table my mom told me this little girl was watching me and said to her mom "All that fuss over a strawberry." Yeah, okay little girl. It's not like I was shouting and berating the staff. This was early "Karen" times.

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great way to vet others who are unreasonable. Minimize my complaint, try to gloss over, NOPE, I just get louder and more insistent, and WILL be heard. I know what I complain about is reasonable. Are YOU reasonable? If not, get out, no loss.

    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Topic aside, what's with the picture? Do women go to art galleries to write their complaints?

    anarkzie
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    3 years ago

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    What sort of reasonable complaints are we talking about? The viral Karen stuff or something different. I feel rightly or wrongly that it is considered a typical masculine trait to not complain about certain stuff.

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    #16

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Not wanting marriage

    GoldenGlitter9 , wetwebwork Report

    Bgray450
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I put the siiiiiing in single, ain't worried bout a riiiiiiiing on my finger!

    Honu
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wanted to be married, I just didn't want a wedding. That was apparently a massive shocker to the people around me. I'm an introvert. I hate being the center of attention. Planning it is so much work. I have no desire to cosplay as a princess for a day.

    Tree P
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never gave a c**p about getting married or having a wedding. I've been with the same man for nearly forty years now. Both of us are happy with this arrangement.

    TheEndIsNigh🇨🇦and🇬🇧in🇺🇲
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yay! My partner & I have been together for a long time, and have no designs to ever "walk down the aisle." The status quo is wonderful, and we see no reason to change it.

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    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same song, second verse of not wanting kids. I'm widowed (divorced 90s, I left him; widowed 2016), and will not marry a third time. Now that I'm 50+, this is far more acceptable; widows get wide latitude on life choices. Men my age are absolutely BROODY to settle down because most want a nurse and a purse, so hard pass. Happy to have companionship, and live apart together. I need my own space, and we can have fun together, have our own space, and keep finances separate.

    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And on the flip-side, being judged for proposing to the man.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just about the bride wanting attention and a party, and wear a pretty dress. Throw yourselves a random gala. There.

    That emo Girl
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't want to marry unless I find a woman I really love

    Isabel Care
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I took pity on those who asked. I assumed they had no idea what they would be in for as they seemed to think I was easy going. If I don't mind doing something, I'll do it. If I don't want to, you can't make me. Won't stop you doing it if you want to, just with someone else

    Helen Jane Witten
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have been so much happier without it. Lonelier no doubt but happier.

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    #17

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Being assertive. Assertive women seen as ‘dominating’ and ‘intimidating,’ but assertive men are seen as ‘having incredible leadership skill’ and ‘confident and self-assured’ (Know this by comparing my teacher’s commentary on my leadership skills versus my male friend who did the exactly the same)

    theVastlycreative , SuckTheButton Report

    ShaZam Beaubien
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Assertive women are given the term pushy. It's not the same for guys.

    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't see anything wrong with being seen as dominating and intimidating. You mean you are scared of me? Good.

    Nancy Bania
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I raise my voice I'm being aggressive or pushy, but when my boss did it and banged on the table, he was being authoritative or assertive.

    wifeofweasley
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told by several (all male) co worker that I have a dominant personality, I'm intimidating because I voice my opionion/ don't hold back and that I'm just too much. And I quote "No wonder why you're single with that personality. You scare guys off. You're not feminine" which I translate to "You're not quiet, you don't let men talk over you and that's scaring men away"

    Klara Lorinczi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had a guy tell me that if I didn’t swear so much, I might find a husband. I told him to go f…k himself. There’s no other appropriate response.

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    LynzCatastrophe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad commented on this to me two days ago when I told him I demanded my job give me time off after working me for 6 weeks straight without a day off, before I start training on a new location. I hadn't been home in 6 weeks except for a couple hours here and there for layovers, my body was breaking, and I put my foot down before it all began again. He's always been that way, everytime I speak up at my job, regardless of where I worked. Yet it's always gotten results, always gotten me noticed. If I'm being assertive, so be it, but I'm not a cog in the machine.

    Samara Messer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! I hated being called crazy for being angry and assertive over something I had a valid reason to be angry about.

    Klara Lorinczi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re called a b***h if you stand up for yourself.

    Felicia Dale
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trans women and men often talk about how social situations changed radically for them after transitioning.

    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very assertive here, been so all my life. Great tool to use to see who's too touchy, who's sexist, who has stereotypical/fixed mindsets, and next them. If they're that insecure, then I'm sure to next them just by being myself, so awesome. No loss.

    Emma S
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    💯 As an assertive woman I've had my fill of men calling me crazy because I'm not being a demure wilting violet. Thankfully I'm training to be a nurse currently, where being assertive and speaking up is essential.

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    #18

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Be fat/chubby. Fat men= the funny friend. Fat woman= the ugly friend. Not fair tbh

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    TheAquarius1978
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really? I had a female friend that weighed 120kg and She was 1.60m tall, i weigh 120kg but i'm a male ( denser boné and muscle structures ) and i'm 1.85m tall, and She was BY FAR the sexyest women i ever talked to, personality counts a lot, and She had that in spades, its a shame She was married.

    Batgirl Kitty
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well by the assumption that you live in Europe based off of the previous comment, I’d say good for you that you live in a place where larger body types aren’t frowned upon. In the US on the other hand, this is word-for-word accurate. A opinion formed from one point of view and no other information isn’t the strongest.

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    Tracy Wallick
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doctors treat women and fat people like dogshit, god help you if you're both.

    Stacey Rae
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knowing doctors don't respect/listen to women, I had to ask 6 times for pain meds when I broke 4 bones in my foot. The broken record technique works

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    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At one point I was over 400 lbs but was never considered ugly. I absolutely got up in people's faces (read MEN) who attempted and failed to fat-shame me. I never care enough to start anything with anyone, because I'm always minding my own business, but you bring it to me? IT IS ON, and you will lose. Being fat gave me a spine of steel and a mouth like a sailor. Not even remotely sorry.

    Liz Carroll
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep Fat woman exists "She needs to lose some weight" fat man loses weight "Nooo he was better looking when he was fat"

    dxisy xo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially bad in countries where they're still in early 2000s skinny obsession phase, I am a size 10 in Australia and I am called fat on a daily basis, ridiculous society.

    Katherine Hyde
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about fat chubby anyone judged and looked down on? It's okay to explain them to your kids in the shopping line when everyone can hear. As if shaming them will shock them into embarrassment and weight loss. Like they aren't already having enough trouble, or have dieted most of their life already with no relief.

    El Dee
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    3 years ago

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    This one I'm not so sure about. I feel like it could be self-inflicted (internalised misogyny) As was pointed out to me many women in porn are not svelte models and are, in fact, just like people we all know. Also looking back to the body types that were 'fashionable' in years gone by it was always the larger women who were celebrated. Feels like this needs to be reset..

    Con O Cuinn
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    3 years ago

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    This is c**p. A poor fat woman can still get a partner. A poor fat man better start jogging or buying lottery tickets

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    #19

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Break up and leave the kids. Only get kids 4 days a month.

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    Con O Cuinn
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This suggests that fathers are happy getting only 4 days a month

    Amy Taylor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is changing...at least in CA. Most of my divorced dad friends have 50/50 custody.

    Bored Batgirl
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The standard in most states now is that the best interest of the child is equal time, assuming both parents are safe and local enough to do so.

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    El Dee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not every woman wants to be full time care giver, not every man wants to be a part time dad either. Maybe with less societal pressure people will be in roles they are more comfortable with..

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Usually on the weekend. Every other weekend. Split holidays. It doesn't necessarily have to come to that. Parents can work out custody agreements without the courts involved. But once you get the courts involved then it will be the judge deciding. The courts hate it when parents rely on mediation when it's apparent the issue is just 2 adults trying to compete against each other and not thinking about what's best for the kids.

    xolitaire
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the fault of many family courts. To this day it seems to be the general opinion that "children belong with their mother", no matter how terrible the mother is. I've seen this happen so many times. It's a glaring oversight

    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is bad parenting on both sides.

    Ghaniyah Verma
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It should just be frowned upon by everyone who does it, not just specific genders.

    Kate Jones
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's because of old-fashioned ideas behind parenting as women didn't work and men generally did, therefore they believe the child-rearing was done mostly by the mother. But that isn't true anymore. And there are plenty of toxic mothers. Men aren't second-class citizens and have every right to see and be with their children as much as the mothers are and it's been proven that it's better for the kids. But some men need to also take on more in the role as well. You can't claim someone is 'taking your kids away' if mom is the one doing all the heavy lifting with them, cleaning them up, reading to them, dealing with their sicknesses, shopping for them, etc. etc. If you leave it to the mother to do everything then, yes-you are a part time parent. You can't blame work all the time--plenty of women work and do the child-rearing and the house-cleaning, etc. because they have to. If you want to see your kids more then fight for that. Ask the court for more visitation if mom isn't cooperating.

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    #20

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Ambition of any sort which does not involve having kids.

    lyraleo135 , Andrea Piacquadio Report

    Brendan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife is one of the lucky ones. Her boss has been very accommodating. She has been able to progress in her career (a promotion recently), while also be able to have one day off a week to spend with our kids.

    WonderWoman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is wonderful!!! I hope it continues. Unfortunately it could all end if there is a change in management and her boss is no longer her boss.

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    anarkzie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess this one depends where you live. Modern western society tends to look down on women that want to just stay home and look after kids.

    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one needs HARD and CONSTANT pushback. Anyone who tries to keep other people small and in a box needs to eff off and be shot into the moon. I've always been openly ambitious, out about it, partly just to test other people's reactions. How they react to that tells me if they get a place in my life or not.

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Female ambition is considered -overbearing, sleeping her way to the top, being a b!tch, all the negatives, yet when a man does that same things it is considered - high achieving, go-getter, team builder, networking, focused. Thanks old white men for this. You have sullied the next generation with your fears of being obsolete.

    Ghaniyah Verma
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they don't even consider pets as kids! How unfair is that?

    Lori
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And men get paid more, because it's assumed that a woman WILL get pregnant!

    jon gilbertson
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    3 years ago

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    i like ambitious women. in fact I won't even date a woman i meet at the Laundry Mat. if she can't afford a washer n dryer, she can't afford to support me.

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    #21

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Be angry

    LatterBlood , Andrea Piacquadio Report

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was in another post but I think it needs clarification. Women are not allowed to be angry in work or formal situations and men are. Women are allowed to be angry in personal situations and men are not ie relationships..

    the shrimp whisperer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    anger is a gift and we all deserve to have and use that gift

    Susan Mercurio
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so true! Women in this and most other cultures are not allowed to be angry.

    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great way to vet who can handle strong emotions, who can take responsibility for their actions, who can apologize correctly (without "if", always a weasel word). You want to be in my life? Then accept and appreciate all of me, or else get out.

    Laika-Mutton
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Made me think-before menopause all your issues/anger are blamed on hormones, and after menopause all your issues/moods are blamed on (lack of) hormones. You can't win.

    TheAquarius1978
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    3 years ago

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    #22

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Going out alone at night.

    16115121522 , PNW Production Report

    WindySwede
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't blame women whos going alone. Blame the creepy (men)!?

    Libstak
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree this isn't judged fairly when it's a woman. I do think that men can suffer going out alone at night too. Gang beatings, drunken brawls and muggings, also in America it seems drive by shootings usually target men more than women. So, while being independent is an equal right, being smart about your travels at night is important for everybody not just something to judge women for.

    Liz Carroll
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah but when anything happens to a woman, it's her fault. "Why were you walking alone at night?" "What were you wearing?" When anything happens to a man, it's not blamed on him.

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    El Dee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is about victim blaming. Maybe men should be on a curfew/tagged to protect women? Unfair? Definitely. Unfair that women can't be safe on their own at night - yes, even MORE unfair..

    Aave
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel so privileged that I live in a place where it's safe to go out at night. Just had a fun night with friends and walked 5km home, alone, a bit drunk, and nobody cared. And nightime walks are my "thing." Sure there are places here where I wouldn't go for a walk, and I understand bad things can always happen, but in general it's safe.

    Klara Lorinczi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always carry a small knife or other sharp object as a weapon. Men can’t be trusted.

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    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never really got that issue. Used to go out to karaoke some nights on my own. No one batted an eye or asked a question. Got to chat with some nice people. No one really asked to leave with them or hit on me. Most of the guys were older, married with their wives with them, or just got off work with the same intention to just drink some suds and sing favourite songs to the best of our tipsy ability.

    Stacey Rae
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was followed once by a van. I walked car to car to keep some distance between us. 20 years later I was followed by a creep lurking in some bushes. My friend was flashed. I've got more stories too. I'm sure there there are millions more.

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    #23

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Take their shirt off.

    Dheadghead , Virginia State Parks Report

    TheAquarius1978
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is stupid, and i say this not because Im a man, but because if you go to most EU beaches a lot of women are and walk around topless and no One gives a c**p about it.

    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go to North America and a women may get some nasty stares and, in some places, be fined or jailed for going topless.

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    Boreddd🇺🇦
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If men with man boobs can walk around topless on the beach without any problem, so should women be able to do. As a girl, I do prefer having a top on, but some women would much prefer not having to wear tops on the beach

    bibbitybobbityboop
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I full on agree some men have bigger titties than some woman

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    Bouche Clay
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A nipple is a nipple is a nipple. No matter what your b00bs or moobs look like, they have nipples. It's only female nipples that are a "problem" because they're capable of performing a function -- feeding a baby. How is feeding a baby sexual? Should we start putting something over the top of baby bottles to hide the functional nipples?

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS!!!! How is it okay for a fat 40 year old man to walk around shirtless and no one bats an eye, or vomits, but heaven forbid a 12 year old girl at the beach doesn't have a top on. Yes, it is USA, we are assbackwards.

    RMA
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bat an eye. Usually just before vomiting.

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    Ciara Jennifer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think it means just at the beach. Men can say " Oh, I'm feeling a bit warm" and take their shirt off, but it isn't acceptable for a woman to do the same. I can't even go braless in my own home because I live with my family and have been told it makes my dad and brother uncomfortable. So then sometimes I get irritated when my brother takes off his shirt and I tell him that he should put it back on. If I can't be braless in my own home, maybe you shouldn't be shirtless. I know it isn't the same. I just wish women's chests weren't sexualized.

    PolymathNecromancer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But it is the same. Attitudes and perspectives are the problem.

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    El Dee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany and other part of Europe people are much less prudish about the human body. We could learn a lot from them. Seems like when we go on holiday we fit in with this just fine, so what's the problem??

    LynzCatastrophe
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd prefer neither take their shirts off thank you!

    Brent Hollett
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In many "westernised" (Read: British Empire) countries, it's illegal unfortunately.

    Bgray450
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was soooo jealous of this power when I was young. And being able to ask people to dance with you (I was young in the 60's)

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    #24

    Say "No".

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    Tabitha Frost
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No is an answer, not an obstacle. So shut the hecc up and accept the word "No".

    KY dog mom
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too many people seem to think that if a man says "no" it is the end of the discussion, but if a woman says "no" it is the beginning of negotiation.

    Moya Satterwhite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I could give you a million up arrows for that

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's all say NO, mean NO, and say it OFTEN. Great way to vet people who feel entitled, who have no boundaries, who disrespect other people's boundaries. Don't need or want them in my life. The trash can take itself out.

    #25

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Walk out on their wife and kid. I know many men that have left their partners and their children. Barely visit their kids, make very little effort. No one really judges them that harshly for it. But could you imagine if a woman walked out on her husband and children? Absolute monster.

    magicfishfriend , joey zanotti Report

    Natasha
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Both of them are terrible and it hurts the children a lot (I know many people who’s parents left them, both the moms and the dads)

    Klara Lorinczi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents were completely incompatible and not happy but they stayed together anyway and I grew up with two parents. Not saying it was the smartest decision but I would have missed my dad so much if he left. I loved him more than I loved my mom. They both sacrificed so much for their kids.

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    StrangeOne
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is terrible when either parent does it. Yes, men get s**t on for doing it all the time. They are considered deadbeat dads, and undesirable partners. Mothers and Fathers who do this are rightfully so shamed. My grandma did this to my mom and her siblings. The impacts were huge and long-lasting and even affected the next generations from the mental and emotional instability it left on them.

    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men get heavily judged for this. Anyone who walks out on their partner and kids (especially on the kids) gets zero respect from me.

    Jack S
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man or woman this is exactly the same. Bad on both accounts.

    A. Starhawk Hunt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did walk off. My mother believed that, if I didn’t leave, I would kill with myself or Him. I wouldn’t have been anle to care for them and nothing to fight him with as I worked for Minimum wage. I spent a week in hospital for suicidal ideation. And I know my 34 year old son feels that I abandoned him.

    bob van wijk
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tried to kill myself when he said he'd get the kids cause I was crazy and it was a side effect from the prozac they put me on. Then I had no rights and was the abusive insane dangerous mother. I got em back, cause I didnt go to court and obeyed my ex and he wasnt a total monster. He was also sorry. Your ex sounds a lot worse. There's not much you could do. I always assume that the one who has the kids is the problem. Went on a date w a guy. He saw his daughter one day a week. I said: is your ex such a monster? No he thought one day was enough. Mkay bye.

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    Mikey Kliss
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I judge those Men extremely terribly. To not is just crappy. You don't do that to your kids. You take responsibility. No matter the gender

    nooneimportant
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as a child whose mother left, I can said that it's really doesn't matter who leaves, the child is the one that has to deal with the fallout, not the parents that had sex and created the child. Wear a condom and/or birth control if you don't want kids, period.

    censorshipsucks
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    can we all stop being judgmental? I left an abusive situation. It's better for kids to not see that behaviouor.

    Liz Carroll
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mum did it. Walked away from me and my brother and sister who weren't even my Dad's kids and went back to Scotland. I wouldn't call her a monster, but she definitely wasn't my favourite person.

    Lea S.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear/see Dads who leave their family getting judged ALL the time.

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    #26

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Refusing to pick up your kid from school because "you're at work"

    lawfullawful , Ken Mayer Report

    Ba-Na-Na
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And why do they always call Mom when ever something is wrong?

    RockSteady
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe because that is how you are listed on the form? Our school system, they try who ever is first (based on what we put). If that person doesn't pick up, it goes to the next on the form. My husband has had many calls because I was unavailable to pick up. I am the default though because he is usually in an area with no cell service.

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    Two_rolling_black_eyes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to walk to school in snowstorms and it was uphill both ways.

    iEatStyrofoam
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i didn't have hand sanitizer i boiled my hands

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    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A Manager at Tims loved to schedule me in as much as possible, any random time. So, I just worked them. But all I asked was for an hour... hour and a half of time a week to take my daughter to a leisure class. It wasn't always a problem but then he really needed me to cover for someone and asked "Why can't your husband take her?" I asked myself that, too. For some reason it was this massive sacrifice for him to take to any organized activity.

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    #27

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Voicing an unpopular opinion or offering constructive criticism in (too many) professional settings.

    Msrow91 , turodrique fuad Report

    Szirra
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And having a man repeat the same thing verbatim not 2 minutes later.

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As HIS idea, and it being listened to with credibility!

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    Katiekat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happy to do that, great way to vet a toxic work environment and know when to move on. I'm always prepared to offer 2-3 solutions if I voice a problem, so it wasn't a problem for me. People knew I wouldn't say something unless it was an issue AND I had ideas to solve it.

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had EXACTLY this happen with one particular boss. It got to the point I had to brief a colleague with questions to ask, stuff to say in order to effectively communicate. I hated that boss..

    #28

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Grow a mustache.

    bonster85 , .jocelyn. Report

    Tabitha Frost
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those glasses.. I NEED THEM!

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All women have fuzz around our mouths, and all over our faces. Some have it darker and thicker than others.

    max and the expresso
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ever since I was a child I have wanted nothing more than a little ginger moustache.

    Aunt Riarch
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I drew one on for pirate day, I think it rather suited me

    Julie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was just thinking today about the time Rosie O'Donnell put a bead on her chin hair on her TV show.

    Ciara Jennifer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are of the Dwarf race in a fantasy realm, beards are common on the women. If you look up drawings of fantasy Dwarf women, they are so beautiful, beards and all.

    Sparkysheep
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im an unusually tall dwarf

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    BornToBeMild
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a joy in being able to, even though its very small, to give your moustache a little twiddle, especially when I'm thinking. THE POWER

    2picklesinabun
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a female, I can't grow a mustache. Nothing grows. 🤔

    Whitney Anderson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a woman by the way, 16 years old. I'm not trying to be rude at all so I'm sorry if this comes across as rude. But do women really want a mustache?

    RMA
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t think they necessarily WANT a moustache, but more that they won’t be derided as disgusting if they have visible hair on their upper lip.

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    #29

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Have a child whilst also having a job. Edit: I was actually referring to the stealth demotions and firings, denied promotions, etc, but as people have pointed out, yes there's mom shaming too

    AlterEdward , Ketut Subiyanto Report

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would be asked at my job. "Who looks after your daughter when you're at work?" Dunno. Ask the lions.

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just another reason I'm happy to be childfree. As if it should be a choice. As if that's anyone else's business. As for stealth demotions and firings, being denied promotions... toxic work environment, get out ASAP. There are better jobs than *that*.

    Jake B
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about he gets moved up to support his wife and kids, but she doesn’t? Is this still going on?

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    #30

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Sit the Iron Throne

    ohkas , Matt Brown Report

    Bouche Clay
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That chair looks very uncomfortable, and too exposed to the elements. How's about a cushion and a shade tree? Thanks, I'm not sitting on that.

    Emie N.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's worse in the books. It's described as being WAY bigger and more sharp.

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    Well-Dressed Wolf
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes. Posts about actual serious social issues and social stigma that women face - and then a post about a fictionalized universe where there are dragons. Very relatable.

    Natalie H
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe we women don’t want tetanus.

    GadgetGirl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about be taken seriously by a physician? Man complains of pain, doctor runs a bazillion tests. Woman complains of pain, doctor tells her to take a Motrin. Had a drug reaction once and the doctor told me to make some friends. Wtf.

    Odysseus Vrakas
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe this is more about position of power / leadership roles than an actual iron throne?

    Ghaniyah Verma
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, their asses would suffer, so...

    #31

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Stop dying grey hair

    thatsmyusernameffs , Ron Lach Report

    Con O Cuinn
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's because it's more embarrassing as a man to dye your hair. Likewise with wigs/hair transplants

    Honu
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A male friend of mine who is about 60 told me he dyes his hair, but his hairdresser leaves gray at the temples. He knows it would be completely unrealistic for a person his age to have no gray hair, so people would know he dyes it if she completely covered the gray.

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    Al Christensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I practically cheered when a woman I know stopped coloring her hair. It had looked so false and she looked like she was stuck with this self-image that she was much younger. She also toned down the makeup. Now she looks so much more relaxed, authentic and happy. Looking real is also a lot less work.

    JustJackie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was at work, this guy was talking to a colleague, and saying it was time for her to get her hair dyed again. I looked at him, he has a full head of grey hair. So I asked, when are you going to dye your hair? His answer...I'm a man. I don't need to.

    Red Hair Blue Soul
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I stopped dying mine this year. I love the freedom from the cost and time. Don't like it, don't look at it

    Aunt Riarch
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everybody gets flack for dyeing grey hair if it's obvious. But grey hair in women is becoming fashionable

    LynzCatastrophe
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not ready to see my own, I'd have to acknowledge my age and I'm not at that point yet. Hubby looks good though.

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    #32

    Swearing

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    Chucky Cheezburger
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, my wife swears like a 3rd grader. Worse thing I've heard her say was damn...but she can make up some funny sounding alternatives, so it's all good.

    HardieBoysMama
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My 2 youngest boys ride the bus to elementary school and let me tell you some of those 3rd graders would put sailors to shame.

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    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Swearing shows a lack of vocabulary". Oh f**k off!

    Rowan/Vin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, lack of vocabulary my a*s. Its like putting spice into food, it adds ✨flavour✨

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    Tree P
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I swear like a sailor, but usually only around those who know me. I do find that when politeness fails, a few good swear words gets their attention!

    ShaZam Beaubien
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I swore the first time with my mom when I was in my 30's. I felt like I did something horrible.

    Boreddd🇺🇦
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I swear, like, a lot around my friends. It adds a bit of spice to the sentences

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's all swear then, and see who has outdated ideas of what's "ladylike", who's sexist, who's stereotypical. Don't need or want them in my f***king life.

    Rider
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I swear a lot, do not get in a car with me or play video games if you don't want to learn new curses. I get it out when I can because the moment I clock in at work it gets turned off.

    PattyK
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Swearing is unattractive in both sexes; people need especially to eschew the f-word. Save it for situations of *extreme necessity*.

    Brendan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You won't enjoy Ireland then. My wife is Irish, and when she moved to England, she had to tone it down. Far fewer 'c bombs'.

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    #33

    30 Things That Nobody Bats An Eye About If It’s A Guy Doing It, But Loses Their Wits If It’s A Woman Doing It, As Listed By Folks Online Not being conventionally attractive, especially if you're a fictional woman. That's not to say that conventionally unattractive men don't have it rough in certain situations, but they aren't as likely to meet with as much hostility as unattractive women can meet with.

    Irohsgranddaughter , Emma Bauso Report

    Two_rolling_black_eyes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugly is the last group it's 100% ok to discriminate against. They have no more control over bulging eyes than a person has over their skin color or gender.

    Ivo H
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @Sardonyx_3 do you really think you can just change your gender? It’s exactly the opposite - you can change your sex (surgery) to match your gender.

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    Tracy Wallick
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my experience, there are few crimes as terrible in the eyes of entitled straight men, as being a woman that he doesn't want to f**k. I've had abuse and garbage thrown at me out the windows of cars for having the audacity to exist while being fat.

    Bored Retsuko
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it means, if you were to create a cartoon, video game etc, you better make sure the female characters are hawt and kyut...

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    Luna Crow
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SO much this! It's like AFABs are assigned worth based on physical attractiveness. Talk about anyone else, and the highlights are how smart they are, their personality

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was relatable until I read "fictional woman." Never mind fictional characters. It's a reality. Even kids will judge a teacher based on her looks. They'll like you if you're pretty. They'll make you rethink teaching if you're not, according to their preferences. There have been men who ran up to me just to tell me how ugly I am. I get called "dude". That is code, I'm sure, for "you're so ugly you're not even a female." I don't want to be called a pet name, a bro reference.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're a fictional woman, you can be drawn or described however your creator wants. 😆

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hostility from men? Oh yeah, for what? Not being "pleasing"? Deal with it, and get out of my life. You're unnecessary.

    Mikey Kliss
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please explain to me the line "especially if you're a fictional woman" Is that just referencing that cartoon women have to be one way or its shunned?

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a double edged sword. Women have more to contend with but also are 'allowed' the means with which to 'help' themselves ie makeup. It shouldn't be like this, but it is. I hope in the years to come we will become more realistic..

    kitten levels tokyo
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fictional Women’s Rights are important too.

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    #34

    Interrupt people

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    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering men talk over and interrupt us, interrupting them back is leveling the playing field. However, if someone is trying a crappy power move and just starts yelling and interrupting all over the place, I've been known plenty of times to just walk off without saying goodbye. Here's your power, just not over me. Have fun with that alone.

    Emma S
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my biggest pet peeves.

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    #35

    Sit with their legs apart.

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    Frando Bone
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When your entire reproductive system hangs down between your legs and is stuffed into undergarments, then you can talk.

    Well-Dressed Wolf
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So… you’re saying until I have a ween and walnuts, I can’t talk about sitting with my legs apart…?

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    TheAquarius1978
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh man lolol, you just reminded me of a foto that's circuled around in the internet, of a Scottish military seated Next to the late Queen Elizabeth, apparently he also didn't know how to sit with his legs closed, mostly because he was wearing a kilt, the old fashion way.....

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did this without thinking about it at a Christian camp. I was told by my cabin leader that it was against rules for girls to sit with their legs apart because it's "too suggestive" and "improper of a Christian girl". I wasn't even wearing a skirt. Just mid length shorts.

    Izzy
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My grandma and my sisters act like I just killed someone or something when I sit like this

    Rider
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll sit how I damn will please, but I'll be courteous and save the beaver shots for my partner.

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Done it all my life, deal with it. Don't police how other people sit. Maybe get a job and some hobbies with all that free time you have.

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    #36

    wear the same thing daily

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    Con O Cuinn
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a women criticising women thing. Men couldn't care less

    Livingroom Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    me who has worn the same shirt multiple times without cleaning :p

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    iEatStyrofoam
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sorry we don't have 20 shirts, brenda

    CelticElff
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I friggin' LOVED that about the military! Could roll out of bed in the morning and not have to choose what to wear. And BDUs? They could be as comfy as pajamas some days!

    Rider
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I miss having a uniform, I never had to think about clothes. Just give it sniff and check for stains.

    Katiekat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone is judging someone else on what they wear... wow. Get a job, get some hobbies! Mind your own business.

    Al Christensen
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a coworker who had five outfits. That was okay because she was just slightly above entry level and didn't have a lot to spend on business attire. The noticeable thing, though, was that she wore them in an exact rotation, as if labeled with days of the week. "It must be Thursday because she's wearing the pale blue blouse and navy skirt." But keeping things orderly was part of her personality, which was good for the business.