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28 People Online Made Fools Of Themselves By Picking An Argument With Someone Much Dumber Than Them
Mark Twain once famously said “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” That statement is scary for a number of reasons, most notably because stupidity is infinite, and thus the experience can be absolutely annihilating when you start digging deep into the whole thing.
This has become the premise for a now-viral AskReddit thread where people shared their best real-life examples of how to never argue with a person so far lost in the vast infinity of stupidity that they themselves shall never be able to comprehend how wrong they are.
You can hear about it by scrolling below, but be warned, you might leave this article with a headache.
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#1
For a short while, I worked as a line cook at a Cracker Barrel, and there was a little saloon style door that led to the staff section (kitchen, bathroom, etc). There was a staff only sign on the door, above the doors, and on the wall behind the doors at eye level.
Usually if someone from the customer side comes in, they said, "Coming in" before opening the door, so they didn't hit anyone, but of course customers didn't know that.
So when this dude opened the door and hit a waitress carrying a ton of drinks, we were reasonably upset with him.
He said, "You should really put a sign up."
We showed him all the signs, and he goes, "That seems a bit excessive."
ninjaTrashPandaBoom 2 years ago
Misses all the signs and then says it' a bit excessive.
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Melissa Nunya 2 years ago
I worked at the self check out at a grocery store. Kid keeps climbing up on the scale causing the machine to think you put something in the bag without scanning it. After the third time of telling the man he can't let his kid climb on the scale he looks at his kid and goes "what a dumb machine eh?"
Crazy Meerkat Lady 2 years ago
This is funny in my head. I read it (and also pictured it) with Ricky Gervais.
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#2
I was listening to a podcast once, and the host articulated something profound in a very well-stated way. He said (I paraphrase):
"I will never argue with a flat-earther, or an anti-vaxxer, or any of those people. The reason is because that these people have made that into _their whole identity_, and they are prepared to address any possible argument I could come up with. And because I care about facts and truth and they do not, my only possible response would be '...uh, I'll have to look into that, I don't know off the top of my head'. It doesn't matter that their response is incorrect or based on faulty research or has been rejected by the scientific community or whatever; by the time I discover that, they will be long gone and talking about how they won another debate."
This is it in a nutshell. If you argue about an issue with someone who has made _that one issue_ into the core of their persona, you will lose unless you are someone who has made arguing against that issue also into the core of your persona.
Of course I know that Andrew Wakefield is a liar and a scammer and of course I know that Apollo astronauts placed retroreflectors on the Moon which can be used to prove that they went there and that their photos of the spherical Earth are real, because I've done enough research to convince myself. But have I done enough research to convince someone who refuses to be convinced? And someone who has also done that research and come up with plausible-sounding nonsense to counter each of these arguments? Why would I waste my life doing this?
Joy 2 years ago
Exactly. Arguing with someone like that hurts the mind and nervous system. A useful response to 'the earth is flat' type views is to say Ah I see or simply OK. Smile and leave it at that. Let them then debate with the empty air.
Monday 2 years ago
But what about the fun response of "Oh no, you believe that conspiracy? I did too for a while but then I realized it was all a scam. The Earth is actually a triangle, that's why the illuminati chose the triangle as their symbol!".
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Saint Tim the Godless 2 years ago
It's not my job to make you smarter or make you right. But it is my job to contain your stupidity so it doesn't harm anyone else.
- 2 years ago
Someone once told me that if Anne Coulter was doing a lecture, he'd attend for the Q&A and argue back with her. "It's not going to change her, but I might change a few minds in the audience."
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Sonja 2 years ago (edited)
Reason why it's useless to debate with a flat earther: it is well known that the earth is round since ancient history and there are lots of real life experiments that you can do yourself at home or at least near any coast that showed earth was round loooong before Galileo Galilei even though about fighting the church on that. But flat earthers are people who will smugly use those very methods to prove that earth is flat, see that it indeed isn't, and start rants how government sends radio signals to impact experiments done with sticks and a piece of string. Still insisting they're right. You really can't argue with people who won't believe their own eyes
Shyla Bouche 2 years ago
I don't really understand the science behind the moon landings. Why do I know they're real? Apollo 13. Congress was cutting the funds, so NASA wouldn't have faked a failure to get funds cut sooner and tighter. Everybody who had anything to contribute worked around the clock to get Lovell, Hayes, and Swigert safely home. Round the clock means hellish amounts of overtime. In the middle of the cold war, after Russia had officially lost the space race, they guaranteed diplomatic immunity and safe passage, should the astronauts have to land in Russian waters. When the astronauts were rescued, they were paraded down the streets and shown off. Hayes, who had become ill, wasn't present. If it had been fake, NASA would have shown off all three.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
"You can't reason someone out of a belief that they didn't get reasoned into."
emma hunton 2 years ago
My granny always said dont put your wit to a fool. And my other favourite was empty vessels make the most noise.
Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)
Because the idiots’ research is Googling blogs that only confirm their own biases, not finding cold, hard, potentially opinion-changing facts from scholarly, peer-reviewed sources like smart people do. The idiots are the ones who dig in and won’t budge from their “facts”. Smart people know facts, but are willing to admit they’re wrong when they’re genuinely proven wrong, and are also willing to do more research and change their opinions if the research upholds the opposite of their (now former) opinions.
Crazy Meerkat Lady 2 years ago
Where can I read facts about the moon landing? And I don't just mean Google, because that will take ages and I will procrastinate, I need a specific site or blog, if you know of one. I always tell people I don't have an opinion on it because I don't have enough information (which is true because I haven't ever made an effort to read enough about it)
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Julie Snelling 2 years ago
So what is the reasoning behind people believing that the earth is flat I really don't understand. What are they getting out of it?
Elio 2 years ago
It makes them feel special that they are the only ones to know about a vast government conspiracy that exists because of reasons. (Still fail to see how the government would benefit in any way about lying about the world being flat.) Sometimes it's a religious thing too.
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UKGrandad 2 years ago
This reminds me of why America baffles me. It s the wealthiest nation on Earth and yet a not-insignificant proportion of its population believes that the moon landings were fake but professional wrestling isn't.
ninjaTrashPandaBoom 2 years ago
To be fair, the moon landing conspiracy nuts and pro wrestling is real people are the same group of people /s...or is it?
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#3
Not my story but once my friend (friend A) was having a friendly (turned sour) debate with another friend (friend B) about how sometimes people just don’t have a choice, in the context of, they can’t just choose to live a frivolous life because of their family background etc.
Friend A proceeds to say, “what about starving children born in Africa, it’s not like they had a choice.” To which Friend B answered....”WHO ASKED THEM TO BE BORN IN AFRICA? JUST DON’T BE BORN THERE.”
That’s when we knew.... :—)
Nay Wilson 2 years ago
I wasn’t aware people had the choice of where they’re born. Huh. Well, you learn something new every day(!)
Monday 2 years ago
Of course! Many people like to try life on "hard mode" so they decide to be born into third world countries or terrible parents! But then those same challenge seekers dare to whine about the difficulty they chose! /s
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Šimon Špaček 2 years ago
Well, if you believe in reincarnation, yes. But that is betting a lot on card with no hard evidence behind it.
Load More Replies... Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)
Oh believe me, if we really could choose where to be born and which parents to be born to, I sure as s**t would not have chosen the two pieces of s**t I had to grow up with. My brothers I’d keep, as we were a united front and always looked out for each other, but hell to the yes, if I could have, I would most definitely have chosen way better parents.
ninjaTrashPandaBoom 2 years ago
and for way too many, it's not a choice, they are just stupid
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#4
I’m showing my age here but I used to work for an estate agency, and we had sales offices set up at the site of large new housing developments. Our primary method of communication was fax.
One of the sales associates telephoned our office to say that the fax machine had run out of paper. No problem, I said, one of the guys is coming your way later for a house tour, I’ll give him a box of paper to give to you.
We then had an almost 20 minute long argument when they kept insisting “NO, YOU JUST SEND ME A BLANK FAX BECAUSE I NEED THE PAPER, IT WILL JUST COME OUT OF MY FAX MACHINE.”
It was like trying to nail jelly to a tree. Difficult, irritating, and it achieved nothing :)
freefall 2 years ago
The fax machine? They don't go for much these days. :)
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Steve D 2 years ago
File under "things that never happened." This urban legend has been circulating for decades.
Daniel Atkins 2 years ago
Oh I believe it I have seen something similar. I'm a copier repair tech. Had a customer come in ask me to fax a document, but they asked if they could have a copy before I sent the fax. I did explain that the machine takes a scan and sends that and the paper doesn't go anywhere. They understood after my explanation and there was no further issue, but given the amount of stupid people are out there I can see it go to that extreme.
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Lord Mysticlaw 2 years ago
I have a 3-in-1 printer/scanner/copier. I have a mother who is not a dumb person. But she always asks me if I have ink in my printer so that I can scan something for her. (Not copy. Scan.)
#5
My good buddy wrote his capstone thesis on something about Islam. The dude spoke Arabic, is smart as hell, a history nut, and consumes books like they are skittles.
Anyway, he got into a long debate on Reddit with someone. He started showing sources, teaching the guy, etc. Anyway, he was about 500 words into a mega retort when he decided to actually look up the dude’s posting history. Turns out that dude was a "Drink Your Own Urine" evangelist.
I feel like that is Reddit in a nutshell.
- 2 years ago
I don't know if the scholar actually posted his reply. If he did, I hope other readers on that thread learned from him.
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Aidan Pite 2 years ago
It's not a Reddit thing, it's a stupid person thing. Your buddy just experienced his first dumbpipheny: 20100426.gif 
DrBronxx 2 years ago
Yup. I have learned to look at people’s profiles before deciding whether to engage with them.
ninjaTrashPandaBoom 2 years ago
lesson hard learned, do not engage with idiots lol
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Duane Johnston 2 years ago
Arguing with someone on the internet is like trying to teach a pig to sing. All it does is frustrate you and annoy the pig.
#6
I grew up Jewish in Oklahoma. I ran into this a lot.
Had a classmate in middle school try to convince me that Christianity predates Judaism.
I told him, "But Jesus was Jewish."
His response: "Exactly!"
No irony. Totally genuine. Conversation over.
LizzieBoredom 2 years ago
As everyone in Alabama knows, Jesus was a blond-haired, blue-eyed, Baptist who wandered around Israel 2000 years ago, right after the Earth was created.
UKGrandad 2 years ago
Ironically, the people worshipping white Jesus are the same people freaking out over black Ariel.
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DJR 2 years ago
To be fair, most people haven't read the book they claim to base their life and eternal afterlife on.
Saint Tim the Godless 2 years ago
They would need to be able to read first.
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Tuna Beach 2 years ago
Not as bad as my Catholic friend who thought Judaism was a cult, and covered her ears when i told Jesus was Jewish....
Bec 2 years ago
I was surprised to learn from a Protestant at my school that Catholics were going to hell because we were a bunch of Mary worshipping cultist. I thought Catholicism was just one form of Christianity, good thing she set me straight
Load More Replies... Saint Tim the Godless 2 years ago (edited)
Recent history supports that there is no point speaking with someone with an incompatible belief system. You'd be better off and more fulfilled trying to have a convo with your dog.
Deborah Rubin 2 years ago
My dog is very intelligent. My conversations with her make most of the people I encounter seem like they need a remedial course in being human.
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Laura Lett 2 years ago
I would personally like to apologize for the idiots that live here in Oklahoma. Unfortunately, my family members are probably some of them.
Robert D 2 years ago
And these people vote. That's the disgusting part. I was raised conservative christian. They are toxic in every sense of the word.
Delta Dawn 2 years ago
I think we in the US need to admit that our brand of conservative evangelical “Christianity” is a straight-up cult that has little use for anything taught in the New Testament.
Load More Replies... Riley Quinn 2 years ago
Absolutely no point arguing with someone who cherry-picks a book that was lost in translation hundreds of years ago and is still be edited.
#7
Once worked with a guy who, by his own admission, got his rocks off by picking fights. He'd start an argument over the smallest thing. If you said it was white, he'd say it was black, just to try to start something.
The one that always stood out for me was the weather app competition. One day he asked me what temperature it was, so I read it off my weather app. He got all offended, because his weather app said it was a couple degrees warmer.
So he decides we're going to have a weather app competition. He was going to chart what our apps said the temperature was, and at the end of the week, whichever one was closest to that day's high would be the winner. And the loser would have to start using the winner's app.
To which I said, "What is your f*****g problem?"
So, yeah. For the first few days, he'd make a big performance about marching into my office, recording the temperature off my app, jotting down some notes, and walking off.
This started on a Monday. He gave up after Wednesday. Either because I was winning, or he was disappointed because, despite his best efforts, I just did not give a f**k about weather apps. Or maybe the boss told him to stop because I filed a complaint that this was bordering on harassment.
Nay Wilson 2 years ago
I will never understand people who enjoy arguments. It’s nicer to be nice than to constantly pick fights
Sonja 2 years ago
I do enjoy arguments. That's why I'm in a debate club similar to toastmasters and are not afraid to start difficult discussions if I feel they're needed. I do not enjoy people who start arguments just to argue and get nasty just to win. I teach courses how to deflect arguments without arguing to help people deal with such morons.
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Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
Its adrenaline addiction. Some people need to jump out of airplanes and others just need to jump to conclusions. Both aren't sure how things are going to land but the rush is the same.
Michael Fernandez 2 years ago
I consider myself fortunate because I met someone like soon after I started college: this one guy seemed to exist only to start arguments. Now I recognize it quickly and remove such people from my life immediately.
Nancy Lynch 2 years ago
I have figured that there are a few different types of forecasting that weather people cover up with their science. This is strictly humor and a tiny bit accurate. The weather dartboard. The Magic 8 ball. And last of all, tarot cards/crystal ball. The witch doctor that we have is only for sunny days.. (This is for the PNW where the sun doesn't visit in the winter.) He/she gets the warriors to throw spears at the yellow thing. Non scientific weather forecasting.
Sara Wilson 2 years ago
I feel sorry for people like this. Just have SO little going on in their lives that this is all they have. And had he won, no doubt he would have bragged about it FOREVER. And I'm curious what their "compared to" place was.
#8
I used to argue a lot with my sister when we were kids. She would do this thing where she would say something, and then I would reference back to it literally a minute or two later to prove a point and she would say “I never said that” or “that’s not what I said”. Absolutely impossible to argue with someone who will just deny having said things that could hurt their argument.
Also, trying to change the course of an argument if they feel like they are “losing”. A coworker once called me an idiot for doing something “incorrectly” when I was actually doing it the right way. When I politely explained to them that the way they suggested doing the task didn’t actually work, they started asking “why are you getting so angry?? I was just trying to help” etc. So now we’re arguing about whether I’m angry or not instead of the right way to complete the task.
Elizabeth Bennett 2 years ago
That's what I was thinking. This isn't stupid behavior, it's emotionally abusive behavior.
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𝖊𝖜𝖔𝛋 2 years ago
My sisters are like this, my brain remembers things weirdly, almost like a video so I can ‘play back’ a conversation and recite pretty much word for word, as many times as needed. (But I can’t remember anything useful!) so I will actually recite word for word what they said, and they will both deny it or do the “I never said that”. It’s very frustrating for me, because I always know what someone said and people will think i’m being difficult. Happened at work yesterday, there was an argument between two people, we were asked by management if anyone had overheard, I said yes and repeated it word for word, for the two people to go, “did I really say that?”
Emie N. 2 years ago
My uncle is very similar to those sisters as well. It's annoying.
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Themoonprincess 2 years ago
Few days ago I got into an argument with a middle aged man in my mom's online group. They were classmates. Someone had send a stupid video on how wives should obey their husbands( yeah it's a shame that these type of stupidity is still prevalent here) I argued against it. They thought it was my mom. All the ladies in the group and some men in the group sided with me against this man who kept saying stuff in broken english. My mother was very afraid to say anything so I clarified it is her daughter speaking and not her. So the man who lost the argument goes like 'oh you need to improve your english '. I wanted to reply with ' then he ascertains his fragile masculinity' but why bother, he wouldn't even understand it.
Highball 2 years ago
So how much did you not understand him, as he didn't understand English well, and do you know a second language? How well do you comprehend it if you do? ----- But then everyone should know and speak English, I forgot, sorry.
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#9
Not saying my mother is an idiot but boy does she lean hard on some stupid beliefs.
For example: I bring up that European countries have universal healthcare (Sweden is a good example) and she immediately fires up the *"but they're taxed to death to pay for it"* argument. In my research, a US resident gets taxed about 12% more (42% on income) than a Swedish resident (30% on income).
Abigail Snyder 2 years ago
My grandmother swears that praline pecans grow on trees. Yes, pecans grow on trees, but she believes they grow on the tree candied. Like, they come off the tree candied. She won't listen to any of us when we try and tell her otherwise, so we just gave up.
Themoonprincess 2 years ago
My pregnant cousin's grandmother told her to drink water frequently because the baby will get cleaned... :) My cousin just told me to smile and nod.
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Libstak 2 years ago (edited)
When I hear that for many average Joe Americans health insurance is upwards of $1000 and more per month for a basic family cover with huge co pays, the whole taxed more argument is just ridiculous.
Benita Valdez 2 years ago
That's a generous figure there. I was paying almost 500 a month just for me; it was a slightly higher end package that let me get better rates for rx's and not have to get the insurances ok for most testing. It's ridiculous and presently I can't afford insurance so have none; I really need to be back on meds
Load More Replies... Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago (edited)
And once again: the USA pays more in taxes per capita towards healthcare than any European nation. If they got their inefficient patchwork system sorted out and binned off the parasite insurance industry, they could get universal healthcare AND STILL PAY LOWER TAX.
Nay Wilson 2 years ago
US citizens pay 42% tax and still have to pay medical fees on top of that?? Jeez. No wonder the country’s in such a mess
Nancy Marine 2 years ago
I am a US citizen and the total of ALL taxes on my paycheck comes to about 23%. That's Federal, social security, Medicare, and state. I am taxed at the single rate with no exemptions, which is the highest payroll tax rate. Americans don't pay 43% tax.
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John Dilligaf 2 years ago
even if they were getting taxed a little more, look what they're getting for it. Want to raise my income tax a few percent in return for universal single-payer health care? I'll take that deal.
HelmGrass 2 years ago (edited)
The income tax rates for residents in Sweden is progressive and ranges from 29-59% then add to that standard VAT rate is 25%with a reduced rate of 12%for food/restaurant/catering services, and 6% VAT for books etc/transportation.
Featherking 2 years ago
59%? Where on earth did you get that number? Nobody pays 59% taxes here, we pay between 30-33%.
Load More Replies... Littlebunnyfufu 2 years ago
It is absolutely not this simple. I'm curious what "research" the OP has done. The effective tax rate in the US is based on what tax bracket you're in and your tax filing status. The amount of federal taxes based on those brackets ranges from 10%-37% and some people under a certain income aren't taxed at all or get tax credits. And, the tax rate is marginal, which means you are taxed less on different portions of your income. It's complicated but looks something like 1-30k is taxed at 10% while $30,001 - 50k is taxed at 20%). It's not a straight percentage. It's really is too complicated to adequately explain here. This is further complicated by state or local taxes and federal credits or not for those taxes. It's absolutely complicated madness! I imagine Sweden's tax rate is also more complicated than this post makes out.
Roman Spruce 2 years ago
Add in state income tax, property tax, and the expenses you have to pay for healthcare, childcare, and education
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LandAhoy 2 years ago
The 2020 median average across the whole of the USA was $34,612. This would fall within the 12% tax bracket, with the first $11,000 being taxed at 10%. Therefore the average person in the USA pays around 11.3% income tax. Median average is more useful than mean in this instance as the few ultra rich skew the mean average!
#10
When I tell people to just reboot your computer and it will fix all their problems and yet they wont because they said if you wait long enough it will shut down, when in reality it only goes to sleep. Then when I tell them they have to completely shut it down they look at me like I'm an idiot and say they did. I tell them it seems like it but it only went to sleep. They argue back.
Tucker Cahooter 2 years ago
No wonder Roy and Moss just had their instructions on a prerecorded tape so they wouldn't have to argue with the callers
Aidan Pite 2 years ago
"Have you tried turning it off and on again? Have you tried shoving it up your a**e?" Just make sure it's not your mum on the line at the time...
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Jennifer Clayton 2 years ago
I remember this from doing business systems support in the mid 90s. It got to where I'd instruct them to locate their CPU, tell me which lights were on, tell me which buttons they see...then telling them to press the big round button for three seconds and let go. "Did you just have me reboot when I told you I already tried that?" "Yes, and is the problem fixed?" "Yeah, but that's..." "You refused to reboot, I found a solution, problem solved." My favorite was realizing when I first started the job that half the people you tell to click the start button on the lower left of their screen (old Windows) they would claim their screen went black. Our company monitors had the power button on the lower left.
Sonja 2 years ago (edited)
I once told a customer I could measure his internet connection but he had to remove the cable from the router and laptop ports. He sneered and said, yeah it's off. I clicked my keyboard a little bit and said, my readings say it's not disconnected, did you remove it from the port as I said or just from your device? He was quiet a bit, I heard him put down the phone and head rustling in the back. Then he came back on the phone and said: I know you can't see in your system if the cable is off. How did you know I didn't check the cable? I asked, if the cable was broken and he admitted his dog had chewed the lan cable in the middle but he didn't see it unless I made him take the cable off, asked again how I knew. I said truthfully: I can't see if the cable is in or not, but I can read the routers memory log. It showed no disconnects to your service, so it could only be the cable between the router and laptop, it was impossible that it was anything else. I explained this to you but you insisted it was a service disconnection.
Two_rolling_black_eyes 2 years ago
Arguing with experts is a problem in general. The anti-vaxxer must know more than the director of the CDC whose spent their entire adult life defeating viruses. The guy who insists he didn't drive over any nails when his mechanic shows the nail he just pulled from a tire. We have developed a serious problem thinking one person can know and understand everything. Just because I grow basil in my windowsill flowerbox doesn't mean I can tell a farmer when to plant their wheat crop.
DC 2 years ago
I didn't turn off my PC at work for four months straight. Every day I arrived, the simulation of yesterday was still running, at least one of them, and after reviewing the results, a set of new ones were to start pretty early. Max performance for four months. Then it died. Did a bluescreen and wouldn't start. IT guy had vacation, when he came back to office, he came to help me fix it ... and it started and took the same abuse for another four months. Starting it right away didn't even reach any type of blue screen, secured-mode-choice or anything at all. Hm....... He was just tired?
Paul Neff 2 years ago
Many people have difficulty, owing to the change in computer behavior with windows. Shutdown no longer gives the same benefits as a restart, since they changed shutdown to more of a hibernation state, so it would come back up faster. Only restarting stops processes and properly clears the system, then brings the system back up properly.
Annymoose 2 years ago
"I restarted it" *checks up time* it's been on for 14 days. "No I restarted it just now." Ma'am your PC has been on for 14 days.
Monday 2 years ago
"No I just restarted it, you're wrong! The computer is lying to you!"
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#11
My mom complaining how my generation wouldn’t know how to do anything if it wasn’t posted on the internet. I simply responded, “Well, what else is that generation supposed to do when the generation that raised them didn’t teach them how to do anything?”
Keep in mind this while I’m moving files from her old Windows 8 laptop to her new windows 10 for her via flash drive. She can’t figure it out because “windows 10 is totally different!!” Obviously, it’s not.
Liz Clarke 2 years ago
Older generations wouldn't have known anything if it wasn't printed in a book. It the same concept, just a different format and quicker to access.
Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)
I wouldn’t go that far. I’m 62, and it was MY parents’ generation who invented the first modern computers. I use computers daily, and have since 1985, when the first desktops appeared, and companies started making them standard equipment at every desk. I know people much older than I am who are extremely comfortable using computers and smart appliances. Has nothing to do with age. Has loads to do with allowing your skill set to stagnate.
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Anna Drever 2 years ago
I’m a boomer, just. And when I want to find out how to do something I’ll look it up. Often on YouTube. It’s a valuable resource and I’m not ashamed to admit I sometimes need help.
Riley Quinn 2 years ago
Some behaviors and attitudes might cause judgmental me to rear up, but I'm still backing the younger generations for their perseverance changing the system.
Annika Kremer 2 years ago
Well, if we use the internet successfully, what's the harm? All that knowledge is there to be used.
LizzieBoredom 2 years ago
It's an open and shut case of Window's upgrades keeping people in the dark.
Sheena Leversedge Wood 2 years ago
the one that bothers me is when people who were able to buy their own home complain that younger generations don't know D.I.Y. when some letting agreements don't even let you put pictures up with blu tack or put up a shelf.
AnonymousApple 2 years ago
I don't get this mentality. We all learned everything we know somehow. Whether it was a book, another person, trial and error, or the internet, they're all literally just different ways of learning new information, and none is any better than the others. Learning is all that matters; not how you learn.
#12
Working retail. Especially when I worked in the tech shop od a computer store. Trying to convince someone their $500 laptop is never going to be a gaming system no matter how many of the very few replaceable parts we throw at it can be exhausting...
FakeOptimist 2 years ago
What do you mean, even if I put a turbo on my Pinto I can't dragrace it ??
SadieCat17 2 years ago
Sure my laptop crashed the other day because I had too many tabs open on firefox, but I want to run elden ring with raytracing and anti-aliasing on it /s
rullyman 2 years ago
Try working in the children's clothing section. "I need plain black jogging bottoms for my daughter for school PE. She's 5 years old." "There's some over there" "But that's the BOYS section!!" Yes and these are plain black trousers... there is 0 difference in the average boy or girl's body at that age.
Tiddlez 2 years ago
When I first got into adulthood by having a full time job and bills, I really wanted a laptop for gaming. My first laptop i bought was a starter one: cheap $200 HP laptop for basic gaming. Slowly saved up for better laptops over the past few years; $500 Dell "gaming" laptop with an actual Nvidia GPU, another $500 Acer Nitro 5 (which I got refurbished by a 3rd party company on Amazon which broke a month after buying it) and finally to my 2020 $1400 Acer Predator Helios 300. First laptop with an RTX GPU (2060) and it's an absolute beast for gaming (can handle VR games well too) yes, desktops are cheaper to build, but I prefer paying a bit more for the portability.
Louie Peter Way 2 years ago
youre telling me, i cannot turn my bicicle into a gaming setup by putting a monitor on it?
#13
Brexit is a classic example of this. It was always an extremely stupid idea and they managed to beat enough of the population down to make it reality.
Joy 2 years ago
Brit here and yup Brexit was always going to be a colossal phuckup. The UK is now banking on a withered boring and peculiar monarchy to revitalise its fortunes. But debating with a Brexiter is futile because... 'foreigners and migrants'
Matt Du 2 years ago
Obviously `foreigners and migrants` were ruining the country earning minimum wage; it couldn't possibly have been that the average CEO's pay is now at 4.1 million, a 39% increase in just the last 2 years. `Follow the money`
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supertall 2 years ago
Brexit is terrible and I will never forgive the UK for ruining my ability to live and work in Europe.
Wondering Alice 2 years ago
They really didn't. I am a brit who lived and worked in Europe before Brexit. The difference between me and my American friends who also lived and worked there was simply - it took me about one day a year to sort my papers and taxes, it could take them 3 days. Sure, it is now harder for students to get summer bar jobs in European beach bars, but as for working and living, it just takes some extra papers. I know a few fresh graduates who are now working in Europe.
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Crouching hippo hidden panda 2 years ago
I argued with so many brexit morons during the fact, that I ended up blocking half my friends list, then just deleted Facebook entirely
DM 2 years ago
Yeah, trust me my country is having the same issue. Different, but same in that how can they convince half the people of some real BS. I mean, y’all I am sure saw our Capital riot in the US. Like what? How this orange turd convince you you’re fighting for YOUR America. No, your fighting for THEIR wallets.
Randy Klefbeck 2 years ago
Same as with Trump's popularity in the U.S. If you tell a lie enough times, people will begin to believe it, despite the fact they knew right from the start it was untrue. Brain washing works.
Slarty Bartfast 2 years ago
Brexit was a Governmental ruse right from the word go. IMO UK gov was being pressured by the US to choose between Europe or them. Let's face it, over the last 30 years, and even more now (since Brexit) we've copied all their ways, to the point where UK is starting to look more like a US territory. My opinion is that Brexit had US backing of all sorts, especially spin doctors, to trick the people into voting against their own interests. The whole point of having a referendum in the first place was essential, in order to absolve the government from blame afterwards - not that it ever really can in my eyes, the vote was ridiculously close, and certainly far too close to be actionable by any responsible government without further time and a second referendum. 52% for Brexit should never have been accepted as an unequivocal decision, and now an overwhelming majority of people deeply regret having left the EU.
Riley Quinn 2 years ago
UK and US both dealing with a fearful population that highlights xenophobia, racism, classism, and a whole bunch more to squelch what they don't understand.
Stephen Hutchison 2 years ago
Beat down? No, it was sold by con artists. Nobody was oppressed into voting to leave.
#14
When I was a child a teacher argued with me about how my name is pronounced. Some sports guy had a first name that was spelled the same as my surname, and I guess that was the only acceptable pronunciation regardless of what little ten year old me tried to tell her.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
On the first day of class, I would tell my students "If I get your name wrong, please correct me. If I keep getting it wrong anyway, don't say to your self "I must be nothing and no one to him." Say to yourself 'He'd old and stupid' and keep on correcting me."
Colin 2 years ago
I tell mine that if I get it wrong then tell me how your mum would say it when you are in trouble.
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Sami-Jo Ross 2 years ago
I will never understand teachers trying to tell kids their names are pronounced wrong or spelled wrong (or in my case, that my whole name is wrong).
Angi 2 years ago
I had a teacher refuse to call me Angi because it's spelled wrong. I now laugh and think about him everytime I see the commercial for Angi.
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Nayla Kanaan 2 years ago
I had someone try and gaslight me that my name wasn’t my real name I’ve seen my birth certificate it is most certainly my real name
LocalLizard(He/They/Xe) 2 years ago
Had a sub do this in 8th grade, found out 3 years later he was fired because he didn't let a kid use an inhaler saying it was "just another fancy vape".
Billy Harrelson 2 years ago
I get that a lot. My legal name, as it is on my birth certificate, is Billy. Same as my father before me. I have had people call me William and I correct them and they get all offended like "well it's short for William". Sure, but it's not my legal name and mine is not a nickname. I'll accept Bill, but only my father-in-law calls need that.
MotherofGuineaPigs 2 years ago
Mine is Jessica, I had an English teacher in middle school that insisted on calling me Jessie. I repeatedly said my name was Jessica. When my mom decided to call the school about it, she continued to call me Jessie but the a nasty tone. I can't stand to be called that to this day (I make exceptions for some people)
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Coyote Osborne 2 years ago (edited)
I didn't even have that difficult or uncommon a name when I was a kid, and I'd have teachers try to convince me that they knew better than I did how it was spelled, or what it actually was. Watched a 3rd grade teacher bully this kid who went by "Pat." It was short for "Patton," and she insisted it could only be short for Patrick, so his name was Patrick, and she insisted the rest of us could only call him "Patrick". She proceeded to call this kid "Patrick" for half the year, until she did it in front of the kid's parents at parent-teacher day, and they politely explained she was mistaken, that their child was named "Patton" because his grandfather served under general Patton. The teacher proceeded to argue to them that either they had named him wrong, or they were just covering for their kid's lies, because parents will never admit when their darling angel is a liar. She did this in front of all the parents and kids present. The parents did not think that was funny.
Wondering Alice 2 years ago
My nephew had this problem. A teacher was most insistent all the kids in the class had to pronounce the name how he considered it correct. My nephew was upset so his dad went in to talk to the teacher. Teacher insisted if you give a child a Greek name, you must pronounce it how Greeks do. He refused to listen to my BIL that he himself is Greek and it's my nephews first language, so you might think they know.
Nancy Marine 2 years ago
I had some genealogy idiot try to tell me I was mispronouncing my own last name, which is how we'd always pronounced it for, I don't know, several generations?
- 2 years ago
"I stand corrected, as does my father and his father before me and his father before that and his father..." (or mothers if they handed down names, too). Kind of like the begats in the Bible, but going backwards and sadly inspired by an even more backwards idiot on auto-correct.
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My brother in law loves to have "debates" where he just wants to hear himself talk to make himself feel smarter. His arguments include "I haven't heard of that before, so it must not be true" and pulling argument points from YouTube videos on the topic because he "doesn't read, why would I when I can get the info faster from a video?"
He sprays paint as his career and has never been to college but took calculus in high school and that is his proof he is smarter than everyone else. When it is brought up all he says is "oh yeah, I remember calculus, it is as easy." What is it about? "You know... Calculus. Easy stuff."
I stopped engaging him on his debates when he just claimed everything was a government job and everything was "fake news, didn't see it on YouTube."
WindySwede 2 years ago
I usually stop listening to anyone using "fake news" seriously...
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LizzieBoredom 2 years ago
I consider stupidity an art, so I resent people who waste it on being dumb.
Apatheist Account2 2 years ago
I once had an argument with my brother in which his response was "I don't need to know that". Why ruin an opinion with knowledge, eh?
SadieCat17 2 years ago (edited)
I took calculus as a hs sophomore and guess what? I'm dumb as a bag of bricks! I can't spell for s**t and my common sense is a little questionable lol. People have strengths and weaknesses and just because I'm good at math doesn't mean I'm smarter than everyone else. I'm at least smarter than this guy though because I understand the wild concept of humility.
ArgonautMyCat 2 years ago (edited)
You really don’t sound dumb! But you do seem funny
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SadieCat17 2 years ago
Obviously the integral of a derivative returns the original equation /s
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#16
was arguing with this dude about something math-related. he didn’t know how to read a study which involved statistics. claimed he was in multiple AP math classes. tried saying that i “probably don’t even know basic integration”. gave me a common integration problem. he wrote it but forgot the minus sign, making it unsolvable. i pointed it out and he edited the comment to make it correct. told him that some people can see when you edit comments. he claimed that he just capitalized a letter. on and on and on…
LizzieBoredom 2 years ago (edited)
Never drink from a glass of water containing 8 ice cubes. It's too cubed.
Ur worth it 2 years ago
😂 I'm a math nerd. I appreciate the acknowledgement. You are now an honorary math nerd. Or a real one. There are a lot of us.
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Michael Largey 2 years ago
American here. An abbreviation is an abbreviation is an abbrev.
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SadieCat17 2 years ago
It makes me so mad when people learn something slightly advanced and then act like they're superior to everyone else. Like no you're not bro. It just makes the sad little puny minded people (/s) around you think you're a pretentious prick. Knowledge is for sharing, not for lording over people.
Thomas Ewing 2 years ago
A smart person knows they can't know everything and are open to new knowledge.
Load More Replies... DM 2 years ago
College statistics sucked more than life itself. We had the dean teaching because they lost a professor and a tiny text book with zero explanation so I basically taught myself from the library and internet. So many people cried in that class man. Needless to say, it’s a more interesting math to learn.
Thomas Ewing 2 years ago
Macroeconomics did it for me: hyper-boring and required to graduate. Totally unneccessary at the High School level.
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A driver fell asleep at the wheel for a brief moment. The passenger noticed the car drift into the oncoming lane and exclaimed ‘Jesus Christ’ in fear. The driver woke up and turned the car back to their lane. It was impossible to have the passenger (and their whole family) admit this was not evidence that Jesus himself saved them. I was exhausted by the end of that conversation.
Jaya 2 years ago
We don't know yet whether there is no harm done. This kind of mindset, combined with this kind of experience, can easily turn someone into a dangerous religious extremist. And who knows what kind of harm that person can do in the future.
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Nancy Marine 2 years ago
It really IS okay for people to have different belief systems in their life. No need to try to change their mind.
Rob Williams 2 years ago
If the passenger had shouted "Oh f**k we're all going to die!" who would get the credit then?
Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)
If I was the passenger, I would’ve exclaimed those exact words. Well, maybe. But I wouldn’t think the actual guy had anything to do with it. I wouldn’t presume like that. I’m also not at all religious, and know damn well my exclamation woke the driver up and the driver made the necessary adjustments to make us safe again—-and I could’ve said anything “Aaaaa! Kelly Clarkson! (If you know, you know)—-also that they shouldn’t have been allowed to drive while fatigued anyway. Jesus had nothing to do with it. Besides, isn’t there a passage in their manual that says “The Lord helps those who help themselves”?
#18
So many times.
So, I'm on my condo board, again. Sigh. Because being on the board means a lot of dealing with idiots. The worst thing is, they aren't normally stupid people, most of them, until they focus on some minor issue.
Anyway - sensor for the lights in our laundry room failed. We replaced it. I get a knock on my door from an owner, who I'll call Bonnie,because f**k Bonnie.
Anyway, she's upset because the sensor still isn't working properly. Now, the issue is the lights won't turn off.
"I stood in there for 15 minutes, and they didn't turn off! It's wastes electricity!"
"Bonnie, the sensor keeps the lights on as long as somebody is in the room. And you were in the room. So, the lights couldn't turn off. "
that's teh condensed version - so, after about ten minutes of her not grasping that being in the room means the light sensor won't turn them off...
Well, the laundry room is in sight of my condo. So, when we hit the ten minute mark, and she's not in the room but instead, in my face... the lights go off. And I point that out.
"I thought you said you would be a good president!"
thank god she's now so "scared" of me she wouldn't say s**t with a mouth full.
Edward Treen 2 years ago
Think about how dumb the average person can be. Then reflect that 50% of the population is dumber than that.
Riley Quinn 2 years ago
I know my response to someone's detailed explanation can be the doe-in-the-headlights-stare, but not on the regular.
#19
Had an employee sign a NDA about an upcoming art installation that had investors. He told everyone. He argued with me the NDA only meant he couldn’t disclose anything with the people in the company.
Jared Robinson 2 years ago
would have been stated in the NDA who he could and could not disclose things to.
Taibhse Sealgair 2 years ago
This. And not just any employee can sign a legal document that commits the company to anything. Gotta be a officer of the company.
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I worked as a graphic designer for one company for fours years. My bosses asked me to sign an agreement that I wouldn't include any of my work for them in my portfolio. It turned out that I wasn't supposed to discuss a short piece of ghost-writing for one effing project. Talk about using a nuclear missile to kill a fly. (Fortunately, they weren't total idiots and I was able to rewrite the NDA).
Riley Quinn 2 years ago
Do you have his name and number - I've got a couple of contracts for him to sign.
#20
Ok - this'll get buried, but it was and still is hilarious to me.
Waayyyy back in the day I was a bill collector for travel trailers and mobile homes. This woman had promised to mail her check for the payment, and lo and behold it doesn't appear.
So I call her, and reference back to our prior conversation I say "You promised you'd mail this to me, and it never arrived." this wasn't particularly contentious. It more along the lines of "I thought we had an agreement and now I'm dissapointed."
So this woman, who was probably 30, really dumb and kinda country says to me "I did mail it. But the post office figured out that I didn't have enough money and sent it back to me so it wouldn't bounce."
My sarcastic reply: "I don't understand how that could happen."
She responds, completely sincere "I don't understand it either."
Literally wordless after that one
Terry Tobias 2 years ago
Supposedly, the post office omnisciently knew how much money this lady had in her checking account and didn't want her to bounce her check because of insufficient funds, so they mailed it back to her.
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Leah Brown 2 years ago
Probably had an "Returned Due To Insufficient Funds" stamp on it. Post office meant insufficient postage funds... She thought it to be insufficient funds in the bank.
Mark Lambert 1 year ago
She tried mailing it without a stamp and that's how they knew she was poor ...
Catherine Spencer-Mills 2 years ago
Student loan (not mine) insists on direct payments from the bank. The bank only sends paper checks though they promise they are updating that. Correct address for payments is specified in the bank system. Almost a month after the check is sent, the company insists they have not received it. WTH?
#21
Trying to get an old person to understand new technology when they have already decided against using it.
My grandmother refused to use the stacking washer/dryer in her retirement apartment because it was "too complicated." Same buttons as the one at her previous home, just in a slightly different place.
Ines Olabarria-Smith 2 years ago
Some “old people”. My aunt (85 at the moment) edits videos like a pro. I can’t find the time to learn.
Shyla Bouche 2 years ago
This made me think of when I'd been diagnosed with uterine cancer in prison (got a hysterectomy, and am fine). I hadn't menstruated for a few years, and figured I was finally free. I was having bladder accidents constantly, and when they did an ultrasound on my bladder, they found the uterine lining still present. The ob/gym, an old British lady, prescribed medication to help it come off. Well, after reading the side effects, I chose not to take the medicine. My next appointment, I told her I wasn't taking it, and why. She said that it wasn't what I needed, as the biopsy showed cancer. Then she told me that the medicine was totally safe. She spent ten minutes finding the documentation on the medication we both decided I wasn't taking. It seemed very surreal. I'm not sure why this post reminded me of that, but there you go.
OnlyMe 2 years ago
I'm an old person and I completely love new tech. I know young people who don't get it and won't learn, total technophobes. But, then there's my mother. I don't know how many times I've shown her simple things. And she just can't learn. Some people can and some can't.
Ian Morrison 2 years ago
A few years ago my aunt, who is a Boomer, special ordered a $100,000 BMW suv from the factory with every possible convenience. Navigation, advanced stereo system, every safety feature, you name it. She was so stressed out driving it that she ended up sending it back! 😂
Puck 2 years ago
I see that with more older people, including my own father (79). At some point it gets really difficult to learn new things. The brain isn't as flexibel as it was and even when something just looks different they just don't see it. Be patient: it's more frustrating for them than for you.
Tiny Dancer 2 years ago
You have not lived your life to its fullest until you've tried talking my 85-year-old Mum through setting up her Netflix. Over the phone. Oi vey! She called me the other day, absolutely delighted with herself. We had spent almost two hours the day before tackling her new sign-in and we both gave up in frustration (it was navigating the on-screen keyboard that was doing her in). A happier woman you would be hard pressed to find when she called the next day. "I did it! I signed in! All by myself!!!" I shed a tiny tear of joy.
#22
Someone posted an article that provided direct evidence against what he was claiming. Pointed it out and he said "I didn't know it was in that article or I wouldn't of used that one"
Lemme get the lemons 2 years ago (edited)
Yikes, doesn't even know the difference between "have" and "of"
Linda Riebel 2 years ago
Thank you for helping protect the English language. It's a losing battle, I know, but we fight for our honor.
Load More Replies... Riley Quinn 2 years ago
This charlatan could easily have a career in politics. Even with quoted evidence, they still know how to moonwalk away.
Bronze Republic 2 years ago
Yep. Sometimes I want to run just to try to fix it and bring those to justice.
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Helen Taylor 2 years ago
So reading the article before using it was apparently out of the question?
Ian Webling 2 years ago
I once saw a Young Earth Creationist try to argue that Darwin did not believe in Evolution. He "proved" this with a quote along the line of: "- long part of sentence - ... - many more words -". An ellipsis is often used to shorten a quote by removing parts not pertinent to the concept. He used the ellipsis to replace the following: "not" which, of course, reversed the meaning of the sentence.
Sherry Marie Golden 2 years ago
Well, at least they honest and didn't start flinging insults when they found out they were wrong.
#23
I thought I had a no-lose argument going up against someone who believes in homeopathy.... I left the discussion feeling like I lost somehow :(
Edit: Appreciate all the comments. Some very funny replies! Just a quick clarification, I was specifically referring to homeopathic dilutions as far as the argument/discussion went.
I "felt" like I lost because I was dumbfounded by their argument and realised quickly that it was a belief system that I was up against and didnt want to waste either of our time (the person being a naturopath that my wife used to go to). They had obviously had this argument many times and had various convoluted responses to all your standard points. Essentially, they had more experience in this argument than me.
Thankfully, that interaction resulted in my kids no longer having to take so much "medicine" which was my main issue because I could see that it was eroding their confidence. Sure, its just water so it cant do any harm right? Wrong, it meant every time they saw the naturopath they would come home with a whole new set of ailments and the eventual thinking of "what is wrong with me??". There was never anything wrong with them.
CP 2 years ago
Homeopathy had been a thorn in my side for years. My now ex wife used to take medical advice for how to treat our kids from her homeopathic sister. They would never let me get to the part where I explain homeopathy. Not that I am sure it would have helped my SIL, but possibly my now ex wife. It should be illegal to sell homeopathic snake oil next to real medicines.
Featherking 2 years ago
I don’t get why it’s not. They’re peddling fake cures to desperate people, how is that legal?
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Suzy Creamcheese 2 years ago
True Believers™ really hate it when you bring that up. ;-)
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While I like the concept of homeopathy, reducing the dosage to the minimum necessary to trigger my own immune system to start fighting the disease, but not so much it’s an overdose, that’s where it ends. Thing is, homeopathic medicines are supposed to have the drug (or natural source of the drug, or whatthefuckever) diluted to the point where there’s only a “shadow” of a molecule of it left. I don’t buy that, and believe you need more to actually trigger your immune system—-more meaning not too little, not too much, but just enough. So that’s where homeopathy and I part ways.
Lakota Wolf 2 years ago
I worked vitamins/supplements for two and a half years during the pandemic and got way too acquainted with the insanity that is homeopathy. Basically, you take, let's say, arsenic, which causes poisoning/stomach upset. This is important later. You mix the arsenic with a solution. Then, you dilute it literally dozens upon dozens of times until there is NOT EVEN ONE MOLECULE of the original arsenic left in the solution. This solution is magically supposed to "remember" the arsenic that was once in it, and thus it somehow has the ability to cure poisoning, because homeopathics believe that "like cures like". Homeopathy is SO diluted that a "200C" dilution of duck liver, marketed under the name Oscillococcinum, would require 10 raised to the 320 universes' worth of molecules to contain just one original molecule in the final substance. Homeopathy is the MOST batshít-crazy of ALL the batshít-crazy fake-a*s forms of "medicine".
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Riley Quinn 2 years ago
Now, we have the luxury of learning about things online before getting duped. Before we were connected, homeopathy was easily explained to the uninitiated as a healthy routine.
Lola Rogers 2 years ago (edited)
Never use a doctor (or a "doctor") who makes more money by selling you stuff.
GlitterPanda 2 years ago (edited)
I like homeopathy because thing like peppermint can help an upset stomach. I also like modern medicine because lavender won't cure cancer. Edit: Didn't realize I was using the term homeopathy incorrectly! Thanks for the info... I was talking about natural medicine, not homeopathy!
Annika Kremer 2 years ago
As long as there is actually any peppermint or lavender in it, it's not homeopathy. Natural remedies are fine for minor ailments like colds, upset stomachs or mild headaches. But homeopathy means diluting something so heavily there is literally none of it left.
Load More Replies... Eastendbird 2 years ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0&pp=ygUPaG9tZW9wYXRoaWMgYSZl If you've never seen Mitchell & Webbs Homeopathic A&E then this is the link. It's great.
Celtic Pirate Queen 2 years ago
Let's clarify that there's a big difference between homeopathy and naturopathy.
#24
Even though they're wrong they'll still carry on the argument and then when you've convinced them they'll say yeah that's what I said trying to make you look the fool.
Had plenty of arguments like that.
Highball 2 years ago
You have to turn arguments into discussions, it's not who wins or loses but who understands.
UKGrandad 2 years ago
Unfortunately, some people are like computers - they need information punching in to them.
Load More Replies... MotherofGuineaPigs 2 years ago
Had a friend that would argue about anything and everything. One time I had to stop him to tell him I agreed with him, why was he still arguing?
#25
People who tell me they "feel like" something is or isn't illegal, when I know they're wrong but insist they know what they're talking about. For the record, I'm not a lawyer yet, but I'm about to start my final year of law school, AND my undergrad is in Legal Studies. In one particular instance, I took a very specialized course that taught drone law. The person I was this with kept telling me I was wrong because they "felt like...."
Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago
There are a lot of perfectly legal things that just somehow feel wrong, although not to everyone. Regardless, they’re still legal, and will continue to be legal until the law changes. That’s just the way it is.
Saint Tim the Godless 2 years ago
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it should be tolerated, and just because something is illegal doesn't mean the law should be obeyed. Part of being a rational adult is learning to recognize the difference. THAT is how laws get changed.
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detective miller's hat 2 years ago
I've been a paralegal for 15 years, and it's amazing how many people think their google search is the equivalent of a law degree.
Highball 2 years ago
Soon to be a lawyer, you need to learn to be convincing, not overpowering.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
Overpowering lawyers are not the worst problem - it's the overbilling ones.
Load More Replies... Riley Quinn 2 years ago
This is where I'd check the state's laws listed online instead of going with my gut.
Garald Suazo 2 years ago
Have you seen lawyers being indicted and charged with crimes, YES. Many times, contracts have to be redrafted due what is written due to local, state, and federal law.
Alleman Jennifer 2 years ago
Dear dear panda. I say this in the gentlest kindest I’m not trying to give you a hard time way possible …. 3L are terrifying bc they have juuuust enough knowledge to do some damage.
Pie 2 years ago (edited)
During online tech support training at a major bank we were given a question and asked if the customer's account was capable of completing a task online. This one question was a person wanted to transfer money from their business account to their brother's personal account to pay for their mom's birthday gift using a specific transfer method. I raised my hand and asked "isn't that embezzling?" Trainer pauses and asks "besides this being illegal, can the customer complete the task?"
#26
I had a coworker for a few years. I tried and tried to give him advice on doing a job that I had been doing for years. He repeatedly told me he didn't appreciate my advice, that he had won awards in his past job and to stay in my lane. Finally we did a project together and he admitted that I really did know what I was talking about and he actually thanked me.
But he continued to gaslight people and be a narcissist
Bronze Republic 2 years ago
I hope he eventually told someone one he was the CEO and President... infront of the CEO!
bottomless.abyss.of.bordem 2 years ago
If you're not this guy's supervisor, you shouldn't have put him in a position to REPEATEDLY tell you he didn't appreciate your advice.
#27
I work at a club where the bouncer gives you a card when you enter. The card has multiple lines with squares on it, each one being a different drink (vodka, gin, tequila, etc) and the barmen just make an X on the drinks you order. All mixers are free except Redbull. At the top of the card there's a line that reads "Redbull mix". It's also the cheapest thing on the card.
I've had a customer order a "Redbull mix" and literally argue with me for about 10 minutes demanding that I serve it while I calmly explained to them that line is only a mixer and they actually have to order something else. They eventually asked for a manager that just told me to mark it and serve them a shot of Redbull. The look on the customer was priceless. They were as pleased they "won" the argument as they were disappointed paying 2,50€ for a sip of Redbull.
Sergio Bicerra 2 years ago
I think I get it. The Redbull Mix is not a drink, is an add on, like you know you can buy a rum and coke and a twist of lemon, and ask the bartender to sell you a lemon.
Load More Replies... Duane Johnston 2 years ago
All that stuff does is make urinate a d it tastes like it might actually ha e come from that bulls urinary tract
#28
Anytime I've tried to explain marginal tax rates to an employee.
Highball 2 years ago (edited)
Taxes are a very very complex phenomenon, even experts can disagree on how to approach it. You are lucky to understand and you have to work at ways to make others understand, or at least accept.
Bec 2 years ago
Why don't they teach us how to do taxes in school!!! Because in the U.S. they can be a very complicated and individualized thing that changes every year, so... What/how exactly do you want us to teach about it? Even if we did half of you either won't remember what you learned in 5 months, will never really have understood it, or will willfully misunderstand it.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
One reason it would be less beneficial to teach taxes in school is that the tax laws change every year, often to a significant extent. By the time the student is out of school and out earning a living, lots of what he was told about taxes might no longer be true. When I was auditing tax returns, the first thing I had to check was "What were the tax rules in the particular year involved here?"
Load More Replies... Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)
You’re very generous. My rating for the tax system, marginal or not, would dive deeply into extremely large negative numbers.
Load More Replies... Celtic Pirate Queen 2 years ago (edited)
My ex got fired from a job because I pointed out that his paycheck was wrong. The owner's wife was doing payroll, but obviously didn't know how to do it properly - she had deducted the employee AND the employer's portion of 3 different taxes. I was a professional bookkeeper and spotted it right away because I had already calculated what it should be based on his hours. The check was about $140 short. He got fired because she was embarrassed, so I reported her to the respective tax authorities.
Riley Quinn 2 years ago
I have an inexplicable mental block about taxes. Sailed through maths and accounting, but turn into an imbecile at tax time. Found a great accountant.
What do you think ?
Tams21 2 years ago
These posts are a perfect explanation as to how the likes of Trump and Boris Johnson were elected. My head hurts.
Tams21 2 years ago
@Sherry I don't mind it if people have a different opinion to what I write but I very much do mind when people tell me that I shouldn't write something. I'll continue to "drag political figures into the mix and write anything else I feel is relevant to a post.
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Lana Lana Banana 2 years ago (edited)
Dude in an elevator sees my tat that's written in Armenian and asks me what language it is. I tell him. He replies, sounding genuinely stoked: "Oh you're Armenian?? That's cool! I'm Turkish! We're neighbors!" For those of you who don't know...the two countries are indeed neighbors, but the Turks tried to commit genocide on the Armenians in 1915 and stole a ton of the land. Not very neighborly if you ask me.... I don't have anything against modern day Turkish people, but...like...that's like a German telling a Jew "You're Jewish? How cool! I'm German!" There's just certain things people shouldn't say...lol
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago (edited)
I honestly don't see the problem. Like a German can't say that to me (Dutch) because of WWII. Still a fact he's my neighbour
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Seedy Vine 2 years ago
“Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to sh!t on the board and strut around like it won anyway.” ― Shannon L. Alder
CatLady 2 years ago
I hate it when people keep moving the goalposts in an argument and then try gaslight me that they're not and I just didn't understand what they were saying. Um, I've taken multiple advanced classes in rhetoric. I understand language extremely well. And in an online argument, there are screenshots so gaslighting is useless.
SheHulk 2 years ago
I had a roommate in uni who studied literature, and I studied microbiology. I once said that I thought that science students had better general knowledge than humanists because they were more exposed to culture, read fiction and so on. I was kinda trying to provoke her, but she then replied that science (every field) did not count as general knowledge! I was stunned and did not try to argue with her, realising it was pointless. We did not remain friends. I still am amazed by the number of people who think that science is trivial and boring.
The Doom Song 2 years ago
Had a customer at the pub I used to work at who we nicknamed "Encyclopaedia" I was serving him one day and we got into an argument about how you can get done for DUI on a bicycle. He was adamant you couldn't and I literally had another customer going "I've been done for DUI on my bike". I got the whole bar involved, including my managers, and he ended up storming out thinking he was right. It was so much fun
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago
Here you can get fined for being drunk in public. Won't happen though until you're a nuisance
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Kevin Hickey 2 years ago
Had an argument with someone that "gasoline would cost more if we (the U.S.) changed over to the metric system, because 4 litres cost more than a gallon". Sadly, if we ever do switch to the metric system, they will probably raise the price of gasoline to pay for the transition and then he'll claim that he was right.
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago
Maybe that's what he meant but you just didn't understand it?
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two-sided llama 2 years ago
my friend group is complaining abotu something veery stupid and i don't know if im the wrong one here. two of the friends in my friend group like to do backflips of swings at max height ,but one of my teachers saw that and gave them a talk and banned them from doing that. i always felt like it was way too dangerous so i didn't care that she banned them. the next day these two friends are very mad at one of my teachers. they start comparing BACKFLIPS of F*****G SWINGS at MAX HEIGHT to cartwheels and other gymnastic things another group of girls are doing. they are sayign things like " we doing backflips ( of f*****g swings) in a safe manner ( not safe at all) and they are doing f*****g cartwheels and they are banning us such a sexist school ( not)" " they can fall on their head and paralysed too ,but they are getting mad at us" "we wouldn't be doing backflips of swings if we didnt knwo how to land ( my mind: dude you cna still get hurt badly by something even if you a professional)
two-sided llama 2 years ago
comment countinued: i try to say their arguments are insanely stupid ,but they are like " you don't have to disagree with everything i said" ( coming from the guy who once said bill gates can give everyone a billion dollars and still be a billionaire) " STOP F*****G DISAGREEING". am i right here. if i am, am i good friend for disagreeing. should i ignore them
Load More Replies... Tams21 2 years ago
These posts are a perfect explanation as to how the likes of Trump and Boris Johnson were elected. My head hurts.
Tams21 2 years ago
@Sherry I don't mind it if people have a different opinion to what I write but I very much do mind when people tell me that I shouldn't write something. I'll continue to "drag political figures into the mix and write anything else I feel is relevant to a post.
Load More Replies... Lana Lana Banana 2 years ago (edited)
Dude in an elevator sees my tat that's written in Armenian and asks me what language it is. I tell him. He replies, sounding genuinely stoked: "Oh you're Armenian?? That's cool! I'm Turkish! We're neighbors!" For those of you who don't know...the two countries are indeed neighbors, but the Turks tried to commit genocide on the Armenians in 1915 and stole a ton of the land. Not very neighborly if you ask me.... I don't have anything against modern day Turkish people, but...like...that's like a German telling a Jew "You're Jewish? How cool! I'm German!" There's just certain things people shouldn't say...lol
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago (edited)
I honestly don't see the problem. Like a German can't say that to me (Dutch) because of WWII. Still a fact he's my neighbour
Load More Replies... Seedy Vine 2 years ago
“Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to sh!t on the board and strut around like it won anyway.” ― Shannon L. Alder
CatLady 2 years ago
I hate it when people keep moving the goalposts in an argument and then try gaslight me that they're not and I just didn't understand what they were saying. Um, I've taken multiple advanced classes in rhetoric. I understand language extremely well. And in an online argument, there are screenshots so gaslighting is useless.
SheHulk 2 years ago
I had a roommate in uni who studied literature, and I studied microbiology. I once said that I thought that science students had better general knowledge than humanists because they were more exposed to culture, read fiction and so on. I was kinda trying to provoke her, but she then replied that science (every field) did not count as general knowledge! I was stunned and did not try to argue with her, realising it was pointless. We did not remain friends. I still am amazed by the number of people who think that science is trivial and boring.
The Doom Song 2 years ago
Had a customer at the pub I used to work at who we nicknamed "Encyclopaedia" I was serving him one day and we got into an argument about how you can get done for DUI on a bicycle. He was adamant you couldn't and I literally had another customer going "I've been done for DUI on my bike". I got the whole bar involved, including my managers, and he ended up storming out thinking he was right. It was so much fun
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago
Here you can get fined for being drunk in public. Won't happen though until you're a nuisance
Load More Replies... Kevin Hickey 2 years ago
Had an argument with someone that "gasoline would cost more if we (the U.S.) changed over to the metric system, because 4 litres cost more than a gallon". Sadly, if we ever do switch to the metric system, they will probably raise the price of gasoline to pay for the transition and then he'll claim that he was right.
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago
Maybe that's what he meant but you just didn't understand it?
Load More Replies... two-sided llama 2 years ago
my friend group is complaining abotu something veery stupid and i don't know if im the wrong one here. two of the friends in my friend group like to do backflips of swings at max height ,but one of my teachers saw that and gave them a talk and banned them from doing that. i always felt like it was way too dangerous so i didn't care that she banned them. the next day these two friends are very mad at one of my teachers. they start comparing BACKFLIPS of F*****G SWINGS at MAX HEIGHT to cartwheels and other gymnastic things another group of girls are doing. they are sayign things like " we doing backflips ( of f*****g swings) in a safe manner ( not safe at all) and they are doing f*****g cartwheels and they are banning us such a sexist school ( not)" " they can fall on their head and paralysed too ,but they are getting mad at us" "we wouldn't be doing backflips of swings if we didnt knwo how to land ( my mind: dude you cna still get hurt badly by something even if you a professional)
two-sided llama 2 years ago
comment countinued: i try to say their arguments are insanely stupid ,but they are like " you don't have to disagree with everything i said" ( coming from the guy who once said bill gates can give everyone a billion dollars and still be a billionaire) " STOP F*****G DISAGREEING". am i right here. if i am, am i good friend for disagreeing. should i ignore them
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