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There’s hidden depths to every person. There’s a reason why the “never judge a book by its cover” saying is a thing. Same goes for guys.

Sure, some fellas may be nose-picking, public-transport-burping, people-disrespecting weirdos, but that’s not really exclusive to guys, is it now?

In this post, men went out of their way to share and discuss the more sensitive things about their lives and experiences with the internet.

From funny urinal etiquette to the downright sad lack of compliments, here’s some men with no hang-ups about saying how it really is.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Well, every Tuesday night we have a secret meeting where we decide how to best maintain the patriarchy, other than that, not much.

laconicflow , Helena Lopes Report

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Some of these come up pretty frequently, but it's still helpful for women to be aware of them I guess. Here's a non-exhaustive list (on mobile so sorry if i screw up the formatting) :

When I say I'm thinking about "nothing", I'm serious. My brain was off, it's just static up there or random scenes from movies.

Most of us are acutely aware of how scared women are of men, and we all do our best to minimize that fear for you. My run yesterday around the loop in my park? Gotta be going the opposite direction as the women who were rollerblading so they can see me coming the whole way, don't make eye contact so I don't come off as creepy, etc.

I actually like interacting with kids. They're insane and goofy, say crazy things, and are fun to interact with. No, I'm not a p**o, I'm just treating them like the tiny humans they are and they deserve attention.

Fruity drinks taste awesome and I want to order them. Those little umbrellas and cool straws are the s**t.

Yes, we are all mentally 16 and will giggle about any number of stupid things.

Compliments live rent free in our heads forever. My favorite shirt is my favorite because a cute girl told me she loved the color and it looks good on me...4 years ago.

Saying "she's cute" does NOT mean I am actively trying to get with her, it's just an observation.

We like specifics. "The trash is full" is an observation, and we will agree with you. Our brain did not hear "please take out the trash" like you intended us to.

My last point can be changed with thorough training and a lot of patience and clarifying expectations.

Dear God, just tell us where you want to eat or what you want as a Christmas present. Most of us suck at those guessing games, even if we really try, and we just want to get you what is actually going to make you happy.

DM_Me_Your_Sexy_Side , Phil S Report

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The trash bit is annoying. You shouldn't need to have it pointed out and specifically told to do something. Just do it when it's needed

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Chrissie Anit
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So true. The mental work is burdened on women as well, because apparently, many men don't like to think.

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setsuriseikou
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thorough training and a lot of patience to make you take the trash out? So, basically teaching you, a grown man, to be a proper adult and take care of the house you live in?

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Two_rolling_black_eyes
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a difference based on how each party views the urgency of the task. "The trash is full" goes into the same category as "the car needs gas" or "Betty next door asked if she could borrow your wheelbarrow". Its a task that needs to be done but its not urgent. Trash day isn't this morning, the car still has 75 miles of gas in it, and its 6 am and Betty normally doesn't start gardening until 9am. The next time I leave the house, I'll take care of it. There is no urgency. If there is urgency like you need to drive 100 miles tomorrow for your first sales call and wont' have time to stop, you need the can emptied right now because you just threw away some onions, or Betty had her basement flood and she needs the wheelbarrow immediately to remove the mud, say so. If its not urgent but it still gets done, why is your timeline more important? If they aren't ever taking out the trash, that's a different story.

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Christopher Denney
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love the way everyone here is jumping on the trash part instead of the Be Specific part. COMMUNICATE. Don't just say some rando stuff and expect everyone to know what you want, say what you want. Exactly what you want.

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SholomThePoster
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. Seems that when some people aren't mind readers they get criticised, rather than the person will bad communication skills realising the issue lies with them.

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Tim Nicebutdim
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don't like a present I bought you, I will not be offended,please tell me and you can return it. Don't mull on it for 6 years and then tell me when you're drunk

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Riley Quinn
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It boils down to trust and communication, and gender doesn't matter. I can't read minds, and I'm pretty sure that's a universal flaw. Don't get pissy when I can't guess what you're thinking, just say it.

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Gozer LeGozerian
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you want it shown in a video instruction what it means when the trash is full? Like what does it take for you to understand? A demonstration? And then another? And another? And then magically you get out of doing housework because of your weaponized incompetence

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Bent Screw (she/her)
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think most men have a shred of an inkling on how "scared'' women are of them.

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SholomThePoster
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How would someone know how someone else feels unless they were informed by that person?

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Matt Mich
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The trash is full is just an observation. If it's not at the top of my current list because other things are going or I just don't have a chance to take it out, it can wait. You can also take the trash out instead of just saying that to us.

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Boring Pandae
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A gift is not something we need. We can probably buy it ourselves. A gift is not mandatory either. It is a way to perceive how our SO know us, appreciate our needs, or surprise or support us with something unexpected. At least it is what I expect and what I try to offer when a gift is involved.

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Snorkeldorf
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It took a number of years of marriage, but my late husband and I did learn how to communicate much better than we did at first. He liked to problem solve when I came home and complained about work. Sometimes I just wanted to whine and get some sympathy. After I explained that, I came home one day and said "Not looking for a solution on this one, just want to whine about my boss." He listened, then jumped up dramatically and said..."That b*st***d!!!!! Want me to go to the office tomorrow and punch him in the face?" I said that would be great and we both laughed hysterically. Of course we were both kidding, but I knew he heard me. After that, I did go to him looking for solutions also. I just made sure to make him aware of what I was looking for at that moment in time.

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Stephanie Barr
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't speak for all women, but that last item is the same thing this woman thinks, only every single day. Planning and implementing dinner every day, every vacation, everything that needs to be repaired, every health maintenance activity, every school interaction, etc. etc. is not the thrillfest people might think. Totally down with the compliment thing. It's one of the things I find charming in many men.

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StrangeOne
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My bf always asks what I want for Christmas but it just doesn't sit right getting something I told him to get me. So he didn't get me anything for a the first few Christmas', which was... alright. Kind of a bummer but I didn't want to make a big deal out of something so frivolous. Last year I told him to think of something I would love. Gave him a few ideas. He sent me a heart shaped necklace and a plush blanket with 2 wolves nuzzling. Sometimes better communication and patience is all it takes.

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StrangeOne
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I see guys around I don't feel scared, though. Unless I get a bad vibe. When guys move away from me, to avoid me, in a very obvious way it makes me self-conscious. I was sitting on the bus one day and it got crowded. A lot of people were standing. One guy saw I had an empty seat next to me, looked as if he was going to sit down. But he gave me a glance and decided to stand. It brought me reminiscing back to when I was a teen and being on a charter bus going back to the city from camp. A couple of boys, one sitting next to me on the sideways seats, were playing copycat. The boy next to me kept making disgusted faces at me. Wasn't an uncommon reaction that I got back in the day. Never occurred to me that a guy would feel like I'd be uncomfortable with him sitting next to me on the bus.

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Hanni the Hamster
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women, you know you can take the trash out yourself... I manage it each week and have not died yet

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Torz L
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the rubbish ting. It's a very neurotypical pov to assume people will answer a question or perform an action without asking it.

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Joy Myers
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband is a wonderful guy, but I buy my own Christmas presents and hand them to him. He just has to wrap them, which usually involves leaving them in the mail order package and shoving it in a gift bag. I love him and I get what I want and no money is wasted.

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Terran
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So what did we learn here? People need to learn to communicate and people need to learn that not all behaviour they consider bad is actually bad, it might just be different.

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Gozer LeGozerian
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I anything this comment section really prove how women STILL do most of the housework and men are apparently tiny babies fresh out of the womb totally incapable of social cues and needing instructions and demo videos of how to do simple tasks

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Gozer LeGozerian
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not here to cater to men who are still teens. If you share your home with me, you will share the household chores with me. I am not your mum, I shouldn't have to be specific. Feigned incompetence will not get you out of doing your fair share.

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Demongrrrrl
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my family, each person creates a Google Doc with a list of items desired and links to the website that sells them (if they can be bought online). Or a detailed description of the item type, size, and color.

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Duck Syone
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't it rude to tell someone what you want for Christmas if they don't ask first.

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Fernando Álvarez
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I'm not the only one who needs specifics??? Thanks for this!! I thought I had some kind of attention disorder or something worse!!!!

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Nadine Bamberger
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are not a child, you see the trash is full, you take it out, mom shouldn't have to specifically tell you. And I don't want a perfect present and can buy my own stuff, but I want you to make an effort, something that tells me you pay attention and care about what I like.

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm hearing a man who doesn't get it and actually contributes to the problem women are exhausted by. You're an adult who lives in the same house if the trash is full you do not need to be told to empty it. Would you just let the trash overflow and cover your floor if a women wasn't in the house? No, you wouldn't. So the "just tell me" is such a lame excuse. Same with the gifts. If a women has to tell you what to buy or plan for her, she might as well not get a gift or just buy it herself. You are essebtially telling her, "i don't care enough to pay any attention to you and don't care or know enough about your interest." The problem here is women are constantly taking on all the extra mental load. Men use the excuse of, "our brains are just wired differently...we don't know how to do these things". And neither did we! We taught ourselves. If men are so incapable of simple task then they shouldn't be CEOs, managers, President, etc. No matter how you spin it, it all comes back to putting the blame and extra responsibility back onto women.

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SholomThePoster
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's quite a rant. It would have been much briefer to note "I have had bad experiences with a few men so will inappropriately extrapolate this to cover all men.'

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Temporary Dork
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many on this list who need specific instructions to do anything nice. Please, mothers, raise your sons like you raise your daughters.

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Goblin
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Theree is NO way I would be longer than 5 minutes in a relationship with a man that can not take out the trash. Pathetic.

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kesunyian
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you not see the issue, the point is someone else says the trash is full expecting him to empty it... would you not empty the trash if it was full? or is this just another example of sexism?

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do people think of nothing tho?? I always have SOMETHING even if it's small.

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JB
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no idea but have observed the phenomenon. Apparently, some people can be awake but have no active thoughts whatsoever. Like you, I question if they are actually awake or simply in “standby” mode.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah - and gifts - if you have a super picky woman definitely get her to send you links. If you have a super chill woman like me, just try. The effort, with me anyway, is actually appreciated. My husband just went out shopping and bought me a pair of earrings I will never wear. But he went out. He bought me something, not expensive even. And I so very much appreciated it. I hung them on the visible earring tree and look at them and smile - they will never go in my ears though.

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Heather Smith
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole thing makes me crazy! You can rationalize both sides. Both sides in the majority of comments are passive aggressive communication, which only leads to conflict and resentment. Assertive and direct communication is essential. “The trash is full. Can you take it out?”, “I’m not feeling well, would you be willing to take the trash out?” Conflict resolution is required. “Hey, how about we alternate who is responsible for taking the trash weekly. What are your thoughts about this?” We need to be able to communicate our needs, feelings, and concerns directly and assertively. If you aren’t doing this, you are basing everything on assumptions which are generally inaccurate, and again, cause conflict and resentment.

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Stymied Egan
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is so very difficult for me to understand "nothing". I have a constant stream of things going on in my head. It never stops. Trying to meditate over the years was just me repeating either nonsense sounds or in and out for my breathe. Even then it was so hard to stick to. So, when my husband says "Nothing" it's hard to believe. We've been married 36 years, I had to stop asking. It made me crazy even though I knew he actually meant it.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's irritating is... I've learned that yes, I have to say "The trash is full, please take the trash out" - yet... adding that last bit ... you know, the 'action' part - that's when I get the eyeroll and the instant 'Why do you have to be so angry about it" (note: I don't say it angry. I control my tone, I listen to how I say things.. it's either neutral or pleasant - but interpreting my tone as 'angry and nagging' gives them an excuse to either not do the thing or tell everyone why they don't do the thing)

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Nitka Tsar
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It‘s very sad to hear how much fear there is. Women fearing men, men fearing to come off as creeps or pedes. I wonder how that dynamic came to be. Was it always like that? Has it changed like the helicoptering of children? It sounds exhausting for both men and women. I wish for you all over there that it might change to a more easy going and free way of life.

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Calyx Teren
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So glad to hear your point about enjoying kids. It is so sad that the awful doings of some have put every man under suspicion.

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Bruce Horton
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm with you except for the fruity drinks, gimme a good IPA

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never snarky
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for this. I've read most of these before, but it is nice to have them confirmed.

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Couragetcd
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am female and frequently staring and thinking about nothing. My brain thanks me, but DH thinks I'm sus.

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censorshipsucks
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Accurate. My personal hate at the moment is: "Ok I must go home now, tired." "OK cool see you tomorrow night ? " "yeah" ... message later "why did you just go? I wanted you to stay". Argh. It is simple. Just say what you want. Doesn't matter if you think we will say no. Probably if you ask directly and clearly, we will say yes, because it will be a novelty. Just say "please stay." Simple.

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Karina
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get that with the kids. I'm so happy to have a partner who likes to play and spend time with kids. so right from the beginning I knew he'd be a great father and I was right - he is.

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P.C.
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone I like said he hates/dislikes children. Sigh. Because they’re annoying. I mean, he has a point, but they’re still CHILDREN. They’re adorable, they’re the future, they’re so tiny and their voices are all garbled.

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JM
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF?!: "Gotta be going the opposite direction as the women who were rollerblading so they can see me coming the whole way, don't make eye contact so I don't come off as creepy, etc."

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Tracy Wallick
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are an adult, I should not have to tell you like a child to help maintain a household.

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SholomThePoster
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are an adult, I should not be told like a child to take out the trash when you notice it. I will take out the trash when I notice it, and you take it out when you notice it.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I say I'm thinking about "nothing", I'm serious. My brain was off, it's just static up there or random scenes from movies. This is what I think to be truest. No one understands it though, not even my (male) friends.

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BWC
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With my add by the time I have processed the question my mind has moved on through multiple subjects so I would have no idea what I might have been thinking at the exact moment I was asked🤣🤣🤣

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Ronnie Cutshall
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's sad in today society can't give a women a compliment. With no string. Just saying it looks good.

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Tracy Wallick
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Catcalling, sexual harassment and unwanted sexual attention aren't "compliments".

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew won over his future in laws by getting up early, cleaning the kitchen bench tops, taking out the trash and putting a fresh pot of coffee on to brew before anyone got up. He stayed in a separate bedroom from his fiance of course and maintains he would never disrespect them in their own home by getting randy. He said their home, their rules even if he didn't agree with them. His father in law now spoils him and has his back, in his words even if you're wrong I got ya cos family comes first. Just a few tips for any man having trouble winning his girl...

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Going off the 1st point...what does anxiety look like in guys? I feel like women are internally agonizing about everything when they have anxiety.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When the trash is piled above the can, as in danger of collapse imminent followed by tsunami of refuse.. it’s past needing to go out. - I am capable of taking it out myself but dude, I clean your nasty underwear, scrub your remnants out of the toilet because one flush.. 🤨.. as if, & pushed your spawn out of my lady bits. -Trash is stinky nasty. Y’all can show us how brave you are.. take it out. 😝

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Andrew Rossi
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While everyone gets bogged down in their own self reflection and failing in their own relationships, I'd just like to thank the OP for actually being a male role model that a lot of the whining shi**y men in here should aspire to be like. I absolutely applauded the fact that he is being honest and is going out of his way to be a good human and and a good man. Some of yawl men in here pi*sin and moaning about the damn trash. HE is the guy that your woman wants and will get because you're too much of a dumbass sloth to see that!!! Good god so many man child's !!!!

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"We like specifics. "The trash is full" is an observation, and we will agree with you. Our brain did not hear "please take out the trash" like you intended us to." So basically all men are autistic?

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SholomThePoster
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. Autistic men are autistic, just as autistic women are autistic. Please don't misuse the name of a specific , and sometimes debilitating, condition ... and not least to blame others for your bad communication skills.

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Jared Robinson
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And no you mean a lot of PEOPLE aren't mentally over three and giggle at the words poo poo ca ca pee pee, and it is why the world is ending.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Not a dude, but I have a husband. I feel like the best thing he needs when he comes home is a big a*s hug. Doesn't matter if it was a rough day or long day or neither. He needs a hug. I like cooking dinner for my husband so something warm or comforting is waiting for him too. Even if it's left overs. He loves his back scratched, so I'll do that for him or scratch his head. We will sit in silence sometimes while he scrolls on his phone to decompress, than we chat and we put on the TV or go for a walk. I feel like it's the simple things that matter a lot to him. I was very intent on knowing who my husband was and what he wanted when we were dating. I try to encompass those things naturally. I will tell him I love him randomly. I tell him he looks good when he goes to work and when he is just lounging. It melts his heart and I can tell.

Its a lot of fun living with a man and seeing the natural differences that are their norms. Breaks my heart when I see perfectly good men treated like garbage. I mean if he is trash, it's different but most people are just trying their best and I think the small things I do for my husband mean a lot to him.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think we all want a woman who is as interested in us as we are in her.

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Although hearing how men try to avoid choosing the middle urinal if the surrounding ones are occupied may be a funny surprise or super relatable, other guy “secrets” aren’t nearly as funny. 

They may be written with a comedic tone, but their true message isn’t humorous in the least. 

Some examples of this are how men treasure their one decade-old compliment or how they have to fake their confidence and hide significant insecurities. 

These comments, while being veiled as jokes, are indicative of something much more serious. It’s a sign that there are, as there have always been, certain toxic misconceptions about men and how they should be treated - even between men themselves!

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group LEGO Isn't just for kids

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's a "woman secret"....some of us like Legos, too. I have 4 HUGE totes(the ones that look like a storage chest) FULL and that's not including my builds in progress.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We really have no control over what we do in your dreams.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We're kinda like dogs. Things in front of me get attention, if I don't burn enough energy I get zoomies, my behavior piques when I am offered food, use brief and explicit instructions or I will look at you funny trying to figure what you really want, and I love naps on the couch

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Before you ask...this does not include licking parts of oneself that should not be licked by oneself (normally).

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To help us unravel this issue, Bored Panda reached out to Mac Scotty McGregor, Founder and President of Positive Masculinity, regularly striving to empower people to examine how they were conditioned by certain gender expectations. He believes that we, as conscious adults, can understand which of those beliefs are no longer serving us and how they can be replaced with healthier options. 

Currently Mac educates and trains corporations and large groups on diversity and sensitivity. He’s a dedicated activist and educator whose main focus is to help create a world where people can feel free to be themselves.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group You'll find communicating with guys is a lot easier if you just are direct and open about what you want.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally open to this so long as “no, I’m not interested” doesn’t result in insults or threats of bodily harm.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We NEVER know when you like us.
I'm 48. Looking back. I f****d up so much

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I either am clueless if someone likes me, or make everything they do seem like there dropping hints that they like me.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group That big sigh my wife just asked about while we’re watching the 10 o’clock news? Nothing profound, nothing bugging me, I just remembered to breathe.

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According to Mac there certainly are some “hidden” things that men deal with on a regular basis. 

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A big one is that the world we are in teaches young and older men alike that they must always be strong, independent, self-sufficient, and in control. 

“That includes being in control of our emotions. There are only three emotions that are acceptable for men to show, and those are: assertiveness, anger, or high-fiving our buddies when our team wins.”

Middle-aged men have the biggest rate for ending their own lives prematurely and Mac believes that this traditional masculine model and messaging is part of the bigger cause.

Guys have to deal with other guys policing them and limiting how they should express themselves by ridiculing others that don’t fit into the old model.

#10

Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Please for the love of god let us know if you’re into us. Don’t wait for us to tell you first because we won’t because we don’t want to be called creeps.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is also precisely why women are afraid to let on about their feelings occasionally. If we do let on how we feel about someone, sometimes we’re told we should let men lead, and we’re emasculating them. If we don’t let on, we’re told we’re being frigid or making too much of the situation. Honest and respectful communication benefits everyone involved, in my experience!

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Dudes can be friends for years and not know each others real name

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

true. I have friends for years, that they told me their name years ago once, I forgot and never asked again. In my freshman year of college, there was a guy who we were close friends, I didn't even know his name for months. You just have your bros, names are optional

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group No. I'm not going to the gym to hit on "b*****s" or get into shape to be attractive to other women.

I'm just tired of almost passing out every time I bend over to tie my shoes.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I see someone improving their looks or health, I always assume that they’re doing it for themselves first instead of for others

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Since we are still in the middle of a huge change, there are “so many things” that could be improved in our society, Mac says.

The epidemic of loneliness and the lack of depth in male friendships because of it being “weak” to talk about feelings and what’s happening with us is one. 

Another thing is that lots of men still don’t get mental or physical help or check-ups as, again, if something is wrong it’s a sign of weakness. 

“Between the masculine messaging and the capitalist mentality in our Western culture, most also carry the message that we are playing a lifelong game of 'king of the hill'.”

In other words, we’re always competing with each other, instead of collaborating more. Mac says we could achieve much more if we collaborated and didn’t worry about sharing credit as much.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We like compliments. If you compliment a guy he might remember it for years.

… and then he might think you’re into him because we never receive compliments but that is an entirely new issue

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group If you let me lie in your lap and you run your fingers through my hair and stroke my face, I’ll say “yes” to whatever you propose

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group The day before a very close girl (friend) of mine gave me a flower.

I can barely explain how amazing that made me feel. I almost cried.

Needless to say that memeory has a golden spot in my brain.

just remember girls that we are humans as well, and EVERY, i mean it EVERY man seeks this feeling.

kpalan , Alvan Nee Report

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group I like being childish and if I trust you enough I will be childish around you.
I always forget things but I really try to remember them.
We have days where we want to be left alone with peace and quiet

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This applies to women as well. We are absolutely into men with a sense of humor and levity!

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“I also think that in intimate relationships men want to have more depth but they are at a loss for where to begin and how to navigate that.”

The messaging of never showing vulnerability has become so ingrained in us, yet we must embrace vulnerability to get most of the things we want. Falling in love requires vulnerability, putting ourselves in the line in front of others to achieve things requires vulnerability too. 

We could fail, be embarrassed or even hurt deeply, but we are taught that we should hide all of this - never talk about it, pretend we don’t fear, regret, and grieve. 

All of this and more hinders men from being fully human, embodied and present in relationships, limiting us in ways some may never understand, which leaves them with an empty feeling.

“We need to reframe this toxic messaging. Embracing vulnerability is the way of the warrior, as is the ability to admit mistakes and be accountable for our actions in order to grow and evolve,” Mac Scotty McGregor finishes.

#17

Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group When you ask us a question, often times we'll quickly respond with "huh?".

It's not that we didn't hear you, cause we did. We're just buffering to give you an adequate answer.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I usually respond like that because I have a hard time paying attention so I have to double check to see if I heard a question correctly

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Sometimes, that male confidence that you find attractive is us totally faking it while shaking on the inside, insecure AF.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's true of every type of confidence. And real confidence is not knowing that things will go your way. It's knowing you'll be ok even if they don't.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group If it looks like im ignoring you im probably just so deep in thought that i forgot i actually exist

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or trying to remember some sports statistic that's more important to me in the moment than most would think it should be.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We're not necessarily watching p**n when we're in the bathroom for an hour. We may just be on Reddit and lose track of the time.

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 2 adult sons. My youngest has been known to sit on the "throne" for AGES reading a book. The first time it was "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone", most recently it was "Lord of the Rings".

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Those memes that are like

Women: I wonder what he's thinking about

Man: *dumbest s**t ever to be thought about*

Are far more true than you think BUT it could also be the complete opposite, they could be thinking the deepest most philisophical s**t ever too.

Either way their answer will be "nothing"

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Asked my Husband what he was thinking about because he was staring off into space... he said the groomer didnt shave around the dogs balls great... never asking that question again 🙈

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group When you explain or rant my brain is telling me how to fix it....

And yes I'm listening but this is how you fix that problem.

Edit: well, I've dunnit, alot of men are helping me with my problem too, and women aren't too happy about how I didn't really listen.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I sometimes need to vent. I sometimes need advice and for people to agree the person I'm talking about is a b***h. None of my family get it.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We have an entire language around the headnod

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#24

Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We pick the urinal we pee in carefully.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's an unspoken rule to not use the urinal next to someone. Especially if there are no dividers.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We forgot how to cry at some point early in our lives.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry for every one of you who did. Crying is natural, cathartic and good for the soul. So let's go visit those patriarchy-maintaining dudes, and make them cry

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group When girls come over to a guys place. The guy is usually cleaning up his place like the Tasmanian Devil 1-2hrs before she comes over.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We fear we are loved for our value and not for who we are.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group We don’t want to tell you certain things are worrying us because we dont want you to worry also… now there’s just two people worrying, where as before, one was worrying, and the other was happy, which is a reminder to us not to worry so much

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please don't do this. First, people in general would much rather worry with you than be blindsided by bad news. Second, we will wonder what else you're keeping from us, why you're 'protecting us' as if we're children...and whether we can continue to trust you.

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Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group Having the feeling everybody hates me. Or is it just me?

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#30

Men Suspect Women Don’t Know These 30 Things About Them, So They Shared Them In This Online Group “He didn’t scratch his nose. He was smelling his finger.” - Revelations 17:38

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