People Share 35 Ridiculous And Infuriating Experiences They Had With Homeowner Associations
A homeowner's association (abbreviated as HOA) is an organization in a subdivision, planned community, or condominium building that makes and enforces rules for the properties and residents.
Those who purchase property within its jurisdiction automatically become members and are required to pay dues—HOA fees. And while these associations can do a lot of good, some can be very restrictive.
To illustrate how ridiculous, strange, and downright infuriating their regulations can be, we at Bored Panda compiled some of the worst HOA stories we found online.
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I go into work early some days to get at least some of my work done before the idiots show up. Usually before work I go on about a five mile walk with my dog. I live in a condo so I walk about a quarter mile up the road and walk around in a neighborhood.
About eight months ago while I'm walking a golf cart with actual lights and sirens pulls up in front of me. This huge old lady gets out and starts yelling before I can even get my headphones out of my ears. Turns out walking dogs isn't allowed before 7 am according to the hoa. I informed her that first of all I don't live there and second of all the streets were all public so she couldn't really do much. She responded by threatening to call the cops and have me arrested. I just told her to do whatever she felt she had too and walked away.
This really pissed her off. She started following me in her golf cart with the lights and siren going. This continued for about ten minutes until the cops arrived on the scene. I stopped and talked with them for a bit and explained my side of things. Took maybe 20 minutes before they came back over to explain what was going to happen.
In the end I had every right to walk my dog at anytime of day or night as long as I had a light when it was dark and had reflective clothing (I had both), as for her though they tested the siren which exceeded noise levels for anytime before 8 am. Then to top it off she didn't have it registered for use on public roads, and the tail lights didn't work. As I looped back around the golf cart was getting loaded onto a tow truck and I just kinda laughed the whole way back to my condo.
I am always surprised the cops actually show up for stuff like that. Here, they would tell you on the phone to mind your own business and hang up.
I think they show up for things like this in the hopes the person wasting their time is doing something like golf cart lady was
Load More Replies...Am I the only who read this as "walking a golf cart"? COMMAS, people. They matter!
I read "The Association" by Bently Little. After that, I vowed to NEVER move anywhere that was part of an HOA.
I love when a plan comes together - and I also love it when some HOA Nazi gets their comeuppance. ;-)
I honestly don't understand how some of these HOA's can get away with half the s**t they pull.
They don’t get challenged and HOAs are full of power tripping idiots. The rule about walking dogs wouldn’t hold weight to begin with unless the community is a gated one and the roads are private property owned by (and maintained by) the HOA Public road means public they HOA can enforce rules on the houses but the public roads belong to the town / county / state they are in.
Load More Replies...The kicker is she's trying to enforce a rule about disturbances early in the morning while blaring sirens.
and, unlike a gated community, on public roads the HOA has no jurisdiction over.
Load More Replies...No way in hell would I EVER buy a home in an HOA neighborhood. When looking for a home, that should be the first thing you tell your real estate agent... NO HOAs...
I was thinking that bright lights and sirens are way more disrespectful and disruptive than walking a dog that may bark at something. I guess not to the HOA...?
Over compensation for their own inadequacies. Signs of a really weak mind.
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Longish story, but it makes me smile every time I think about it
My grandfather lives in a "senior friendly" HOA, he and my grandmother lived there for about 15 years, the entire time my grandma was an avid gardener, and her favorite plants were her hydrangea bushes. The HOA allowed her garden in the back of the house, and the bushes in the front for the entire time they have lived there. A year or two after she passed away the HOA board had a huge turnover and the HOA informed my grandpa that the bushes had to go, even threatening to 'forcibly remove' the bushes. Well, grandpa is a retired federal appellate judge, he has lots of free time and he LOVES to argue. He has told my uncle and I on multiple occasions that after grandma died he really found no joy in anything, but now he is only alive to spite the HOA and loves every minute of it. A year ago he spent about 6 months drafting response letters for every single violation in the HOA that they could try to fine him on and has them all ready to go.
My uncle has told me that my grandpa has quite literally set aside 10s of thousands of dollars per year, for 30 years, to pay for legal filings, research, and fines. He will never stop, he is the terminator of HOA fine notices.
If you read this, PLEASE give your Grandpa a hug and tell him it's from me.
People on HOA boards seem to like to use whatever little power they have, just because they have it.
Load More Replies...Send Grampa to me Please. My condo board is a nightmare.
I just can't imagine being told what kind of plants or bushes I am allowed to plant in my garden.
Apparently, being saddled with an HOA means you do not have private property rights, the HOA gets those. You just get to pay the bills.
Load More Replies...I can’t wait until I have the time do to things like this.
My mom told me a great story of the vengeance one of her clients enacted after being harassed by a tyrannical HOA. The guy is a surgeon and very wealthy. He bought a piece of property, and the HOA started really messing with him bad, ripping his trees out, fining him large sums of money for infractions that were baseless, and when he would fight them and ask for proof, they would retaliate by screwing with him even more... The revenge: Being a pretty prestigious surgeon, and having a sh*tload of money, he decided to buy every piece of property that became available in the neighborhood. This plot took over a year of buying property after property... and he would put them in names of different businesses he owned as to not raise suspicion. The HOA didn’t even see it coming. Then one day, he showed up to an HOA meeting... and said something to the effect of, “Here’s a list of all the properties I now own in this neighborhood, and that makes me the majority owner. I’m disbanding this HOA.” They were stunned, but there was nothing they could do. He defeated them.
Amazing! Honestly, what is the point of an HOA? Everything I've heard just makes the sound like upper-middle (or wannabe upper-middle) class privilege protection rackets.
It's supposed to do things like protect home value and most of them will have other amenities like agym or swimming pool or something similar. Most of the cases of hoa horror stories are because the hoa board is bad, not necessarily the hoa itself. I'd never live in one though because even if it was good when I moved in it can always change if the wrong person makes it into the board
Load More Replies...This is a dream, my dream. If I even cared anymore. A few years ago, my neighbor violently attemped entry to my condo, armed with a hammer and the intent to kill us, The police were called but did nothing because it was over an hour later and he had drunkenly wandered off to beat up another person. (Long story) When asked what the condo board was going to do, the President of the condo-club said "it never happened". It took months to have the door repaired. I had bad ptsd for months, jumping when a car back fired, panicking when I saw him anywhere. I carry bear spray everywhere and check hallways before leaving, still. If I could buy up th majority of units, I sure would. And I would revel in firing every member of the board after I evicted the psycho. They are worthless.
A Dasher Panda, it was a foolish PURCHASE, for sure, but in Alberta, my condo is now worth 40% less than I owe. It's not a decision to stay, really.It's a decision not to declare bankruptcy. What would you do?
Load More Replies...Pretty sure they were not clapping at this xD cussing yes. Clapping no
Load More Replies...Most of them you have to have an 80% majority. I doubt a surgeon could or would buy 20, 30, 40, 50 houses just for that purpose.
The story is at least third hand, so it's best taken with a grain of salt.
Load More Replies...And the person that wrote this tall tale knows nothing of how HOAs and their governances work.
My hoa in Oklahoma required that you hire a professional company and spend at least $500 to put up lights at Christmas time. They threatened to fine me when I refused, so since I'm Jewish, I got a company to put up a huge star of David in my front yard. They removed the requirement from the hoa rules the next year.
lmaooo it’s even ridiculous even when they’re not jewish tho cuz wtf $500??
Someone on the HOA board's brother had a Christmas light hanging company
Load More Replies...These are the same people who complain there isn't freedom anymore. (not the OP, but people running HOAs)
That rule sounds like collusion between the HOA an Christmas light installer
Yeah, the part about having to hire a professional is suspicious.
Load More Replies...I would have been very tempted to put up Satanic decorations for the holiday just out of spite
Me too. And a bonus giant d**k made of blinking lights.
Load More Replies...love this! when i was working the office had a 'rule' that office doors should be decorated for the holidays. some of the workers went all out to the point of some of departments made actual haunted houses to navigate. but, as a jew, i wasn't into the christmas decor which made a few coworkers annoyed. so, finally i did decorate. i got the cut out of santa w/reindeer and changed them into a little hasidic rabbi holding a torah and camels. above it i had the words 'Oy to the world!' and even found a stocking that had stars of david and menorahs on it that i hung outside my office. also put out a dish of chocolate gelt in a dreidal dish.
Love it! I would have had such a good laugh at that. LOL!
Load More Replies...Spending $500 to get lights put up or pay a fine, how much is the fine?
If it's less than $500, I'll just take the fine.
Load More Replies...Nope, thus the Hebrew gentleman put up a Star of David.
Load More Replies...I once lived in an HOA that was mostly Jewish people. When I put up my lights at Christmas time, they couldn't forbid it, but on 26 Dec I started getting notes to take them down, which I did not do until New Year's Day (because I had the day off and thus had time).
Sad to hear that those who condemn anti semitic displays of free speech ALSO cannot meet their own standards of prejudice.
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OH WEE!!!! My good friend had a story.
Her and the husband moved into this gated community. She loves having a birdbath in her backyard...and she gardens a lot, so the decoration makes sense. Turns out her HOA figured out that she had said birdbath in her backyard. Apparently birdbath=lawn ornament, which was forbidden. She told them she would remove it. A week later she gets another message saying that it hasn't been removed(it wasn't). Obviously her and the husband put it together that the HOA is snooping in her backyard.
For a week, she spends her time outside sunbathing in the nude setting her trap. Sure enough an HOA narc opens the gate to their backyard and sees her in the nude.
Instant call to the police for privacy violations. The HOA gave up and let her have a birdbath.
She is now on the board of the HOA and they leave her alone.
America: It's my property and I can do whatever I want with it and protect it with a gun, get off my lawn! Also America: YoU cAnT fEeD BiRdS iN yOuR oWn bAcKyArD
I live in a non HOA neighborhood/ area. There are no rules other than if your property becomes a public nuisance- excessive waste, vermin infestation, public safety issues etc
Load More Replies...We put up cameras that get every corner of our property due to a similar circumstance. That and our neighbors are complete douchebags that have kids being raised to be just as they are. We haven't had any issues since installing them.
I never understand why free minded people want to move in a HOA neighborhood, I think they sucks, you paying people to tell you how to live in a home that YOU are paying for, taxes, etc. YOUR HOME! A bunch of control freak telling adults how to live on their property!!
Caught nekkid as a jaybird-- the HOA narc learned a hard lesson the hard way. Good for the homeowner.
Hey you! I would have called the cops on the trespasser and threatened violation of privacy as well as trespass
Load More Replies...Most HOA's have no say over what you have in your backyard unless it will be clearly visible to adjacent properties. I have a 5 foot fountain.
First off.... they are not allowed to go in backyards unless something is encroaching the fence. In other words you have to get permission to build a shed or something you can see from the other side of the fence. But a decoration...umm no. I dig the trap though that's great.
A salute to that woman, she has more confidence than I ever will.
I was once made to resod my front lawn. In the middle of summer with average daily temperatures over 100 degrees. During one of the worst droughts on record. While the whole city was under watering restrictions.
The new lawn (which I had spent several hundred dollars on) promptly died and they tried to make me replace it again, but apparently enough people had complained by that point that before I did they agreed not to make us replace our lawns until the water restrictions were lifted.
Confession bear time: I had to get up early for work (3am), so as I drove through the neighborhood I looked for people watering their lawns in the middle of the night on violation of restrictions. Most people were just trying to avoid being hassled by the HOA, I know, so I left them alone. But when I saw members of the HOA board doing it, I reported them to the city.
You gotta get them where it hurts in their own violations!
Load More Replies...If you're getting up in the middle of the night to water a crop that is utterly useless, you have a problem.
It’s better for your grass to just leave it alone to only be watered by rain tbh.
Load More Replies...Lol I had the HOA tell me in October that my grass wasn't green enough even though we were well into freezing. They gave me 10 days to fix it.. so I spray painted the grass green... problem solved
This is one of the ones you can win against a HOA easily and get them in trouble if they push back. HOA rules can’t break laws if the local area has a water restriction it’s effectively a law the HOA can’t force you to break it. Well they can but the local government will enjoy fining them until they get the message
Highly likely it was pointed out to the HOA that city watering restrictions meant they had no legal grounds to enforce that part of the HOA policy. Might be able to sue them and collect for all the money they had to spend.
Got a letter saying that I had weeds in my flower beds. My front yard doesn't have any flower beds, so I email them and ask which ones they are referring to. They of course come back and say it's the flower bed in my back yard. My back yard has an 8 foot privacy fence around it that is impossible to see through. When asked how they knew about it they said a neighbor reported it. Not a single neighbor has been in my back yard in the 6 years I've owned the house. I replied back and called them on their bullsh*t and told them that any further trespassing is unacceptable. I specifically didn't do anything about the weeds and put up a couple of my game cameras (kind used for hunting) watching the gate. Caught the f*cker three different times opening the gate and walking into my backyard. He did it every other Monday. I took the next Monday off and sat in my backyard with a camera recording. Called the cops and had him arrested for trespassing. City police were very helpful and a lawyer buddy wrote up a nice fancy letter that said that any further contact from the HOA had to go through him.
Lord you are patient, I would go full baseball bat if some one came into my patio like that.
Baseball bat. Taser. Overly protective, and fully trained German Shepherd.
Load More Replies...Are bear traps permitted? Or is that considered lawn furniture? Asking for a friend
I know you are joking, but setting traps that are intended to do harm to others is illegal.
Load More Replies...Have these people got nothing else to do? Most folks have their hands full living their own lives, never mind everyone else's.
They are bitter old unloved human beings taking out all there meanness on unsuspecting neighbors. They usually have failed in a supervisory position in their career so now they are going to prove they are in charge.
Load More Replies...If I knew this was going on courtesy of the game camera, that creep would go judge crater. Remember, you plant rose bushes afterwards. They do a very nice job of keeping everything concealed...
There is an old saying "Good fences make good neighbors" apparently not with HOA's around! Should be another line to this old saying "So do cameras and lawyers!" I salute you!
Our neighborhood doesn't allow privacy fences because of this. All we are allowed to have are those black ornamental style fences. Makes it easier for them to "keep an eye" on peoples property and violations.
Pseudo communism, and empowering peeping toms.
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A friend of mine lived in a pretty big neighborhood with a pretty strict HOA. He asked and was allowed to add a garage onto his house and did so, siding it with cedar planks. It looked great. His HOA disagreed and told him the by-laws state all exposed walls must be painted. He tried to appeal, but was shot down unanimously. So he checked the by-laws further and found that while it was stated that all exposed walls must be painted, there was absolutely no mention of any color restrictions.
By the time he was done, each plank was a different primary color, and there was nothing they could do about it. They were furious with him, and he laughed his butt off.
I did this with our allotment shed! First went from brown to sage green, then raspberry pink (the allotment manager's jaw literally dropped at that one), then beach hut-style brilliant blue and white horizontal stripes, the kids' choice.
I think a nice bright hooker PURPLE would have been my choice! Congrats on screwing them!
Load More Replies...omg what a ridiculous law, I'm brazilian, here you will see a house without painting a couple of times walking in the neighboorhoods and guess what???? nobody dies because of it😨😨😨😨, its the person's wall why does it matter if its painted or not??? what about poor people that cant paint it and have more important things to waste their money on?? painting the walls is the less important law I could ever think of, this is so dumb, I say this with all my respect (or not)
Just to clarify- by-laws are more like rules set up by HOAs and other groups, and not by a government. They're different from *actual* laws. So it's like "if you have enough money to build a garage then you should have enough money to paint it." But I agree it's a dumb rule, that's kind of what this article is about.
Load More Replies...It would've been even better if the stripes were perpendicular to the direction of the planks, or even diagonal
Control freaks that want to maintain "property value" over anything else, like common sense, decency, basic f*****g respect and understanding.
Load More Replies...I LOVE this, but what I would have done is to paint it in the colours of the LGBTQ flag. That would both show my solidarity with the movement and blow their tiny minds out of their skulls.
Coworker lived in a very expensive and very high monthly HOA neighborhood. They were born in the Netherlands and had a Dutch flag sticker on their front window, maybe three inches tall. They got a $75 fine in the mail. Her dad read the rules over extremely well, went out and photographed over 75 US flags, went to the head officer and said he wouldn't be writing a $75 check until the person writes up all 75 of the following addresses, as there's no exception for an American flag. They dismissed his fine
Dear God I'm glad I'm not in an HOA. Someone might have met with an unseemly accident. Cause that's some rank b******t right there.
IKR? Our house is the only one on the street that doesn't have nothing but white on the paintable parts of our brick house (the whole street is all brick houses). Because nothing but white is boring as hell. I'm sure an HOA would be ticked off.
Load More Replies...There’s a federal law that gives everyone in USA right to display American Flag. No need for HOA to restate that. That being said HOA are total asses!
Both flags Dutch and U.S.A should be flown side by side but a sticker on a window is just a sticker!
My HOA mailed us a letter stating the color red I painted my front door wasn't approved. They required me to submit the paint color name, brand and sample to the architectural committee for review and approval. I did. It was denied. I wrote a letter stating there was a neighbor 2 blocks over with a red door- who had been approved. HOA says "paint it the same color as your neighbors, and we'll approve it." I let 2 weeks pass. Wrote a follow up letter informing this very particular HOA that I had completed the repainting of my door from the red I originally chose (which was denied) to the exact same color as the neighbors. I get a letter which thanked me for repainting and (finally) approves my red door. Their letter even stated that my door was visited and inspected prior to approval. Jokes on them. I never repainted it and they couldn't tell the difference.
In case someone was watching,.. Just have an empty paint can with water in it maybe. Dip the brush in swipe some water on.. It looks different while wet and dries the same color.
Load More Replies...What lifeless miserable people HOA board members must be. I'm reminded of the alien city from A Wrinkle in Time where everyone is forced to be the same and do everything in perfect unison.
These people would hate me. My house is rather a bright teal-blue, with an orange front door. I get lots of compliments on it, but there have been a few nasty comments. Thank god I don't live where there is an HOA
They must have been listening to old Rolling Stones music, to much.
Load More Replies...Petty politics! I thought we got to leave al that crap in high school
I'm on an HOA board, don't hate me, I'm one of the good ones! Our management company does the walkthroughs and sent a violation letter for a blue door, which had been blue for over a year. There were also many other blue doors. We werent even informed of it until they came to a meeting to discuss it. The bylaws said it has to be on the approved color pallete, so since changing the bylaws is hard, i suggested adding blues and reds generically to the pallete. Passed immediately.
Typical hoa mentality. What a waste of time and paint.
Load More Replies...When you have nothing better to do than boss other people around: HOA.
They sent us a series of nasty notices to remove the dead tree in our front yard. The tree had lost all of its leaves and it was unsightly, apparently.
The catch is that they sent us this notice in November. You know, like, FALL. When perfectly healthy trees lose their leaves.
We pretended we didn't understand which tree they were talking about until spring, when the tree magically came back to life.
They train them there then release them into the wild to harass us all
Load More Replies...A "friend" trimmed a low hanging branch in my yard so she could pull her truck through. She: It's dead - it didn't have any leaves. Me: It's winter; it's deciduous...
I have a friend who will NEVER live this down. She is from South Florida and was visiting me at my farm in Texas. She commented that it was a shame all of my trees were dead. It was the middle of winter and they were all deciduous trees.
What did Carlin say about the American dream: "You have to be asleep to believe in it..."
Our neighborhood HOA tried to make us remove the ivy from our house. After combing through the by-laws, there was nothing stating we couldn’t have ivy.
I put my foot down hard and told them if they made me remove my beloved ivy, then I would put 50 pink flamingos in my yard because there was no rule about it.
They left us alone after that.
Probably there's a new set of updated rules underway that outlaws "flamingos, pink or otherwise".
That's awesome! When I was a teen, my uncle and his wife were in their first house. One of her sisters gifted them some pink flamingos for Christmas. They had a sense of humor so they put them in the backyard. Their neighbors didn't like them and demanded they remove them ASAP. They're was no HOA their so they had no right, rhyme or reason yet they said firm. They went to every store within a 30 minute drive and collected as many pink flamingo yard ornaments they could find... I think it was 50 or close to it and put them in the backyard AND frontyard facing their house. This pissed off the neighbors so much that they called the cops. They showed up laughing their asses off and practically high 5'd my aunt and uncle because their was no local ordinance or law that was against any of it but the neighbor argued it was terroristic threatening or something like that because they felt they were being taunted. The cops said nothing my uncle did was wrong and they should learn to live with it
Those neighbors moved within the first year LOL! They decided living in a college/city atmosphere want for them. Yeah NS LOL!
Load More Replies...Shhhh. Ivy is an invasive species that spreads underground strangling the roots of trees, forcing them to drop their branches, and eventually killing them. Ivy can also do property damage, and is known to pull down retaining walls, destroys siding and roofs. And it's a nightmare to get rid of once it takes hold. There are many places where the sale of English Ivy is outlawed
That's a yard decoration and they can state that they're only to be made out of stone or something dumb like that
Ivy's a good friend to keep the inside walls dry. Someone removed the ivy from the outside of a room and the room s walls mildewed from then on.
Almost the exact same thing in a gated neighborhood I lived in. The HOA told my neighbor he had to remove a fence he erected in his back yard. He planted about 20 pink flamingos in his front yard (no rules about pink flamingos) and told them he would remove them when they agreed to allow him to keep his fence. They capitulated
Had an HOA which regularly complained about petty things. I did fix them, but was super annoyed. I made a sign (very cheaply, white with black text) which said "Yard of the month" or something like that because it would annoy them greatly and wasn't technically against the rules. Later, they actually made a really nice and expensive official sign "HOA OFFICIAL yard of the month." (lol, really? I was joking) Nice graphics and nice metal frame. Really official looking. I noticed it on a walk at night when most people were already inside. I grabbed the sign and moved it to someone else's yard which was obviously crap with lots of weeds etc. Ya, that sign never showed up again. lol.
You have my compliments on your excellent taste and a superior sense of humor!
Load More Replies..."Had an HOA which regularly complained about petty things." You just defined HOAs.
Funny, except to the people with the crappy weedy yard that may have felt ashamed to have the sign there. I know I would be mortified.
I'd be the opposite. Although I have that issue where well I love people. I really don't care what they think of me? It's bad for making friends but I got enough of those anyway heh.
Load More Replies...Our former HOA did something like that. I said i didn't want it, and neither did my landlord (it was technically his house and HOA, but we rented from him). The plaque they had looked really tacky. Bright, neon colors. Relief printing, etc. I told them it was a hazard for my then-4-y/o daughter. One day, she was out running around the yard. Her foot caught it, she tripped, and scraped her arm and hands on the nearby sidewalk. I filed a lawsuit. We settled on the removal of the plaque, them paying hospital bills (child's mother wanted her checked out to ensure there wasn't lasting damage. hoa was paying, so why not?). I'm not greedy, so I was content with that.
My family had a really nice but old Mercedes Benz parked in our lot. It didn’t run at the time, and we couldn’t afford to fix it up quite yet, so we never renewed the tags on it. Again, it was a really pretty silver car simply parked in our driveway. A neighbor called the police/HOA and basically anyone else who she could complain to about our car. The town then approached us and said we must cover the car, so we begrudgingly did. But not before painting a bunch of d*cks on the cover in bright neon colors. It was just about the most hideous thing that you could look at.
No HOA, but this happened to me. Apparently, there's a law in my state that says you can't have an unregistered car in your yard unless it's covered. Someone complained about the red Honda Civic that was awaiting repairs. So I covered it with the ugliest, electric blue tarp I could find...held in place with neon orange duct tape.
That may be true where I live. When I register my car, there’s a choice for “planned non-operation” registration. This seems like a state law issue, rather than an HOA issue.
Load More Replies...Even without the d***s, a covered car looks worse than it just being left alone
Does your state not have non-op tags? Pretty much every state I've lived in has tags specifically for cars which aren't operational
That’s what I came here to say! The HOA doesn’t make car registration laws.
Load More Replies...My son kept getting sh*t because he had a '50s pickup he was working on in his garage that he would move outside during the day and put away at night. The HOA president had the truck towed from his driveway. He got it back, as it was an illegal tow. A few weeks later, the truck was towed again, and the HOA had it crushed (she must have paid extra, they don't crush a truck in 45 minutes). He called me and asked to borrow some cash... got ahold of 20 wrecks and had them put on the street all down his cul de sac. He took my torch and tanks and cut every tie down and hook point he could find just to make it cost more for the tow man. The cost of the tows almost bankrupt the HOA. He moved a few weeks later.
Now THAT is horse s**t. HOA actually had his truck he was working on towed AND crushed!!!! That smells like a lawsuit to me. Just saying
I call bs. This is grand theft auto. His revenge would be a criminal indictment.
I walk my dog through a HOA neighborhood every night and I have had them follow me home in their car to personally drop off a letter saying I am to stay off the HOA sidewalks cause dogs are not allowed and I will be fined if I keep doing it.
Well it's been like 4 months and about half my bathroom wall is now wallpapered with stupid notices and "fines" that i'm never going to pay for using a public space to walk my dog!!
Call the city to verify whether said street is public or private. If the latter, you will be trespassing. If the former, you'll have a fine case for harassment. Lots of lawyers offer 30 minute consultations for free. Call one up, present your story, maybe for a small fee he'll write a cease and desist letter to the HOA.
Pretty sure any sidewalk connected to other government sidewalk off private property is unable to be owned?
Load More Replies...In my area the roads and sidewalks in housing developments that typically have a HOA are privately funded and are definitely not public property and it's very easy for them to ban you from stepping foot on it but the police would have to cite you the HOA couldn't do squat but call the police and have security detain you till they arrive
Why does almost everyone on a HOA board think their entitled to run other people's lives.
I'd have fun with the HOA. Tell them to suck my d*ck and walk away while. While not paying their fines...nothing they can do to threaten me with
Load More Replies...PUBLIC SIDEWALKS! Also, feel free to let them know that by following you in a CAR, they are violating the air with their carbon emissions!
Also, following him in a car? That's stalking and harassment
Load More Replies...You should organize an event for as many people as possible to walk their dogs around that neighborhood.
I was walking my dog through an HOA neighborhood and a woman came storming towards me yelling I couldn’t walk my dog there. One Rottweiler growl later she was falling on her ass trying to get back in her house. Someone got a biscuit when they got home.
This is a bit dumb. I'd tear it up in front of them if there weren't any signs at the opening of the community specifically stating so.
We are specifically limited to "one large animal". It fails to state what the animal can be. I'm thinking whale, or perhaps African elephant.
In Sarasota, Florida, one of the most expensive places to live in the US, HOA communities butt right next to homes with high wires, wheels of death, trapeze apparatus, etc. The circus people were there long before the nouveau riche, and they really hate it.
I've dealt with some weird HOA's in my time. Let's see if I can remember all the weird rules.
1.) Fined 500 dollars for being seen outside wearing camo. (I had to wear it to go to work.) HOA president was seriously anti-government, anti-war, and anti-military. He pressed the issue right to the point some guys from the DoD explained to him the folly of his ways.
2.) Fined 250 dollars for not joining in on the block party. (I was asleep and had duty the next day.)
3.) Fined 50 dollars for not watering my lawn regularly. In a drought. Where the city would fine you for watering your lawn.
4.) Fined 400 dollars for parking in front of my house. No matter that it wasn't my car, but was the neighbor's. I was fined just the same.
5.) Fined 100 dollars for an unwanted display in front of my house. That display was a plastic Jack-o-Lantern during Halloween.
6.) Fined 50 dollars for putting up blackout curtains.
7.) Fined 50 dollars for putting up an electric fence to keep kids from cutting across my lawn to get to the lake.
8.) Fined 100 dollars for calling the police on a neighbor for beating his wife. (there's some context there. I didn't see him doing it, but heard it, as well as the screams for him to stop. The HOA fined me because they claimed I had disrupted the peace.)
I'd like to know if they've got the right to collect the money. What happes, when you don't pay?
They can put a lien on your property, or even begin proceedings to have you evicted and your property sold. It all depends on what the contract permits that you signed when you bought the house.
Load More Replies...Most of those fines would be null and void from a legal point in most Western countries. I mean, fine someone for calling the police? Good luck getting that one past a court.
Cloths, Curtains, Block Party, neighbors parking, illegal watering, all those would be illegal to fine in Europe too. The lantern would at least need to be addressed first, i could only see the electric fence.
Load More Replies...Is it just me or is the "anti-government" person being president of the HOA really funny
For someone who is anti government the sure are into lots of ridiculous rules. Seems very hypocritical
Load More Replies...Bruh #8 and they fined you?!? Maybe the neighbor bribed the HOA people
In Australia we have something called Strata Title, almost always in apartment and townhouse complexes. It sounds similar, but nowhere near this level of ridiculousness. After 30+ years of apartment and strata living, I finally had enough and bought a freestanding home - the last 18 months of nobody telling me what I can and can't do with my own home have been absolute BLISS!
When my sister was hit by a drunk driver, the insurance took a few days to decide what to do with her car since it was a weekend. Neighbor called the police and said it was abandoned and had been there for months. Luckily, the police took our side. They pulled up an accident report showing that car across town 2 days ago, then told her to f*ck off.
Too bad they didn't nail the neighbor for making a false police report.
Funny I've noted that too. The one's that make the false reports are never held accountable.
Load More Replies...My father was a state cop and my friends dad was the chief of police. Cops don't take to kindly to those people who live in a HOA neighborhood and complain about their neighbors. 9 out of 10 X's they get called out on something trivial. While cops are busy with them there could actually be someone who really be needs help.
If stupidity caused pain people wouldn't be so quick to show off their ignorance.
Yeah I definitely would have filed a false fraudulent police report claim against this woman
The fake HOA in our neighborhood! Started off as a neighborly gesture. Cheap 75.00 a year. Cleared the roads, some Spring dumpsters, a Summer BBQ. Then the bored housewife who had nothing better to do became President of the HOA. They "elections", meetings, and of course raised the HOA fee 200%. She talked about new street signs, new roads, sidewalls, and gates into the entrance of the neighborhood. Mind you our home was the original property back in the 1940s. I assume the owners sold off land for the homes around us. No common areas, neighborhood pool, park, trails, NOTHING. I refused to pay or be any part of the little HOA club. She called as I was "past due" on my HOA fees. I politely told her there is no HOA here that is why we bought this home. She asked if we use the roads and I said yes of course. Her response was well you need to pay to use my roads. I told her I do, it's called Property Tax. I asked her to NEVER contact me again. Funny some participate in the HOA. They just put in $15,000 worth of Stop signs. We have 5 intersections!! She wants to resurface the over 1 mile road now!! Good luck with that, I'll gladly be the one they hate who hangs her laundry out to dry!! Do NOT buy in an HOA!!
i mean, I'd like to see some documentation that the roads belong to her... (the housewife, that is)
From what I understand, if a house is built and occupied *before* an HOA moves in, the tenant can opt out. Which means the HOA has *zero* authority to fine the owner/renter. But board members are all petty little tyrants who think their word is immutable law.
Load More Replies...Depending on where you live, it could be a real mistake to do things (say... repair/maintain a road) that are county/local government responsibilities. You could end up being permanently responsible. Adding a gate to a public road into a community would not likely be allowed.
If all they did was form a club and call it a HOA, it's very likely that those signs are illegal and so the paving would be, too. In most places, the HOA has to register with either the DOT or the locality (depending on which handles the local roads) to get permission to do anything regarding the roads or traffic control and, in many place, there is no permission, HOA's just do not control that. There are major fines and even jail time in most states for messing with traffic controls and that includes adding them where they don't exist.
If the hoa wasn't there originally and everyone didn't agree on it and it's president and officers unanimously there is absolutely nothing that sour old woman can do about it. She should have done a little more homework before declaring herself in charge.
Depends. It really depends on what the early members did. Did they actually write up and sign some simple contract or was it just some verbal agreement for fun. If there was an actual paper written up and signed, that could have repercussions for all signers. Of course it wouldn't have an ounce legal weight with anyone who didn't sign. I'd try to nip this all in the bud by letting all "members" know that doing some of the things the HOA "Pres" is thinking about could lead to problems with local authorities. There are state laws regarding street signs, etc. Gating off access to public roads in and out of the neighborhood would not likely be allowed. Road maintenance is expensive, would have to meet state standards, and taking it over would make the HOA (all members) responsible for future work. Fees to pay for all this would likely become 200% higher again and be monthly.
Load More Replies...Either the streets are public ( and property taxes have an impact) or they are private and the land owners that use the roadway are solely responsible for them.
I was threatened a fine for not having my landscaping done before the end of 2007. I moved in the house Feb 2014... I had to go to the committee meeting and present my case, then 5 or 6 of my neighbors needed to discuss my fate. It took them until the next day to agree that I should not be fined.
I'm moving as soon as I can.
It took them until the next day to work out that 2007 came before 2014?
Most people who live in HOA neighborhoods tend to be conservative, and most conservatives tend to be ... well, a bit slow.
Load More Replies...Wait...they threatened to fine you for things that happened 7 years BEFORE you even bought the house?! LOL.
If Hermione Granger says it, you'd better believe it. Compliments don't come easy from her.
Load More Replies...I would never want to live in a place that has an HOA. Its bad enough that the city owns about 3ft from the road into our yards and I'm paying taxes on it not them. I am really surprised there hasn't been any or hardly any voilents regarding HOAs. Let's hope it stays that way.
I'm moving too, partly because of the HOA, I'm a single woman and they're misogynists. I'm watched, they patrol several times a week. Every time my kids visit I get a nastygram about the way they park in the guest parking spaces. Too forward, or back in the space.
When we moved in we got permission to build a fence. They said cedar treated pine was fine. Well a neighbor didn't like that and called HOA. We got an email shortly thereafter from HOA Pres that there were some concerns about our wood (ha) so he came by real quick to give it a good sniff to see if it was, in fact, not cedar.
He is now King Fence Sniffer.
What is cedar treated pine? or do you mean "cedar or pressure treated pine"?
I think they mean it's pine stained a cedar color.
Load More Replies...We live in a township and were told that our fence needed to be no taller than 5 ft, built 5 ft off the property line, and be 75% opaque so that the air could go through it and not disrupt the wildlife. If we wanted a different style, we could attend the meetings for them to consider. Interestingly, we were the only people with this rule. All of the fences in our township are solid. My neighbor's fence is 8ft of sold wood & on the property line. ... And portions are rotten and have fallen down. Plus, there is nothing online or in the bylaws about fence regulations. I think he was making up the rules during the call.
I was a little confused by this one but I know what you're referring too.
I'd have the dog pee on it before he came sniffing since it is obvious he is an idiot.
My parents built a playhouse for my younger siblings, and our local HOA claimed it was a storage shed and that it was on our neighbor's property. My dad knew it wasn't because he had worked with the neighbor to make sure it wasn't on his property... The HOA's response was this: "It looks like a shed, so it needs to go away." So he went home and hatched a plan. He convinced all the people on our block to build playhouses, or "sheds." Most people did. The HOA went batsh*t crazy.
Come on, got all the neighbors to spend money to build sheds they did not want. Sure, ok
Really doesn't take much to make something that resembles a playhouse/shed. Also doesn't say how long it took him to convince them, either. A month to talk a dozen neighbors into spending $250? To stick a finger in the HOAs eye? Eminently plausible.
Load More Replies...Are you telling me that you cannot put up a commercially made shed that you put together on your property to store things that may be volatile away from your house but they allow you to barbecue on your wooden deck! These people sit on their brains!
HOAs refer to any structure as an out building so it covers anything you might build.
Had a friend who moved into the suburbs and upon moving in received the thickest f*cking rule book I've ever seen from the HOA. The majority of it were allowed/banned lists; here are the flowers you are ALLOWED to grow and what colors of them you are allowed to grow and here are how many of them you are allowed to grow and what kind of pots you're allowed to plant them in and where in the yard you can plant them and how tall you are allowed to have them and so on, so forth, etc.
They had these lists for not only plants but things like statues you'd put in the yard (gnomes are allowed but they may not be more than three feet tall and may not depict any inappropriate material), the color you could have the house painted (it may be yellow but only THESE SPECIFIC SHADES OF YELLOW), what kind of wreath you could put on the door (wreaths may not be bigger than ___), when you could have BBQs or parties in your yard and what kind were allowed, how tall your grass could be, the kind of mulch you were allowed to use in your garden, and just so much.
You know how you sometimes step into a person's house and it's the kind where you feel like you can't sit down because you're afraid you'll ruin something? I felt like this as soon as I rolled into this neighborhood. Friend is still living there, I don't know how she does it.
Out of pure curiosity in these cases when after buying house can you sur the seller for not giving truthful info about the house and the area? My apologies I have never heard of HOA, and where I am from as long as it is on my land, on my house and isn't causing criminal disturbance nobody can say anything. Like I can't put blinding lights, but I can grow poison ivy if I want. I can have broken yard and nobody can tell me to clean it up. How is the HOA implemented,. Isn't it your property, are you usually not allowed to protect your house from strangers? And why would you buy the house if it is under HOA.
As a former RE agent, providing the HOA bylaws BEFORE the sale is a requirement by law (and they are EXPENSIVE to print). Therefore, if a buyer doesn't read all of the fine print, it's on them. In other words, never. They can never sue the seller for non-disclosure of HOA regs, because they should have read the 4000 tome before signing on the dotted line. Ugh!
Load More Replies...Ah! The land of freedom! Where wearing a mask is against your liberty but choosing your flowers' color is not allowed !!
HOA were designed to keep properties values up but mainly it was to keep certain people out of the neighborhood. Aka; People of color, single moms, poor people, white trash, ect....More often than not these neighborhoods also share the same ideology and strive to keep it that way. Rules are changed in order to force a social conformity to whatever community you're in. They will also use rules to remove anyone they don't want there. Honestly, I can't believe most of you think it's mainly for "property value". It's really not.
Reading the HOA before buying I guess will become the norm. Once home owners discover a punitive HOA lowers their house prices, maybe things will stop?
I've had people move into the neighborhood (at least 1 not even visible from our land) and try to make a stink about various things, such as having semi trailers parked at the shop. Keep in mind our land has been in the family for at least 4 generations and all the land on the entire road at one time belonged to the family (IE when my mother was a child there were only 3 houses on the road). Had some nut job from California try to tell me we can't have a wrecked car on the property (it actually is stored indoors as it's a convertible). The real pleasure for me is the knowledge our land is still zoned agricultural and as such we can do as we please and not even the county can stop us (we asked).
The choice in some places can be: get a house you like in the right location and can afford, with an HOA, vs a house you don’t like or can’t afford. It’s like asking why people stay in jobs that treat them badly. If you have good choices, you are lucky. Not everyone is lucky.
Before you purchase a home in an HOA, you’re given a copy of the rules and regulations. As a buyer, due diligence is on you. What most stories aren’t pointing out is that a properly formed HOA most often includes water, sewer, garbage, roofing, painting of property, insurance of property for everything ‘studs out’. I’m not saying some HOA’ boards have crazy little rules, but most HOA’s exist for the betterment of the community.
not an HOA but I rented an apartment and after moving in got a list of 217 rules I had to abide by. manager was a real jerk to all renters. no wonder his beloved Trans-am was set on fire 6 times.
I briefly rented a condo with some friends. The landlord told us that there was a HOA, but didn't tell us about all their crazy rules.
We got fined $60 for leaving a snow shovel on our front steps overnight. We weren't allowed to keep anything on our front steps or lawn.
We Also got fined $80 for putting our trash on the curb at 7pm the day before garbage day. Turns out that 8pm was the earliest we were allowed to put it out.
We all broke that lease and went our separate ways after a few months of living there. The fines and constant threatening phone calls weren't worth it.
People fueled by their sick sick SICK need to be an authority but will snap like a tooth pick if they would try to become a cop or go in the military
Load More Replies...man, life is way too short to deal with people micromanaging like this, f**k HOAs
Lawd have Mercy...I'm old & boring...hope someone pulls my plug before I'M THAT old & bored!! It's like Mrs. Kravitz evil twin from Bewitched 🙄🤣
Sounds like the idiot condos I'm getting ready to move from. I love gardening and HAD lots of plants and told the landlord how excited I was about the large balcony. He failed to mention that the condominiums were starting a huge painting project rendering all balconies completely unusable for 3 months.Like if you had anything on your balcony you would be fined. Then when the project was done I was told there was a rule of only two plants per balcony and there was a size limit. Their reasoning was people overwatered their plants and that damaged the concrete of the balconies. Hard scientific research I'm sure, guess they forgot about the rain, I live in Houston it rains a lot. Connie/Karen's always walking around with her clipboard and camera trying to police us.
These things are so stupid - wonder what would happen if they saw my porches I have cat houses on them for the feral cats to get out of the elements -I also feed them! Would they also fine the cats - sounds like they'd capture and kill them!
If I can't put the trash out before I go to bed, it won't get picked up! Most places I've lived they come early
We are not allowed to put our trash bins out until the MORNING OF pick up! We have bears, but we also are required to have bear-proof bins. Makes no sense?! Ours comes early as well. ...and it needs to be taken off street before 6pm day of. We have at least a hour long commutes depending on amount of snow that has fallen and amounts of accidents that occur on our 80 mile long cul-de-sac. Work on the ski mountain in Snowmass, live in Carbondale. Getting home before 6 is almost impossible.
Load More Replies...I first thing I would have asked would have been to see the HOA rule book. If I would even have considered a house in a HOA, which I wouldn't. I've heard too many stories like these.
If you are RENTING, then it should be the owners responsibility to follow the rules not the renter.
That should have been illegal to hit you with the fines they're supposed to hit the fines to the property owner. I could have demanded to see the bylaws to see if that is the fact it should be in most cases the homeowner is responsible for maintaining and following the rules.
I got a notice in the mail in December that I need to plant more trees in my front yard. And I have one month to comply. In December. With snow on the ground. I have a total of 7 trees on my property, and 3 of them are in the front yard. Well 1 of them in between the sidewalk and street, so apparently that tree does not count. The covenant says I need 3 trees in the front yard. This house is 7 years old and was this way when I moved in 1 year ago. I wrote them back and said I would plant another tree in the Spring and they will need to wait for better weather. They said I should plant it in December anyway, and I just never responded. I hate HOA.
There is a definition of the word tree that includes things like shoe trees for instance. So, you could actually go to the local lumber yard or go to a construction site where they are discarded material... And build a tree. Using a longer piece of post as the base, then progressively smaller pieces to create the "limbs." First dig a post hole, tip it in, and tamp the dirt down. You now have a tree. I would get an attorney to draft up a small letter letting them know that you have complied by ear acting a tree. And also sending them a Webster's definition of tree, which includes a wooden device that has projections that may hold things. Just for good measure, perhaps stick a shoe on one of those outermost little "limbs."
How are so many privileged people so ignorant? Aren't they supposed to have better schools that the rest of us?
Plant it in December, for compliance, and let it die. Once they try to fine you for a dead tree take them to court for harassment after you complied with their direction. I'm sure you could find a lawyer who'd be able to get your money for the original tree, court costs and pain/suffering.
Until a recent coup, our HOA was run by some of the pettiest people alive. Some of their hijinks over the years included:
--sending us a nasty letter telling us that we were in violation of their covenants due to bare places in our lawn. We were in the midst of totally replacing the sod in our yard as part of a landscaping plan the HOA approved.
--sending us a violation letter because the trash can had not been moved back inside until 10 minutes after the deadline (6 p.m. on trash pickup day, because no one has a commute or an emergency or works different hours than the HOA board members. This was sent with a timestamped photo of the trash can.
And my personal favorite:
--sending us a violation letter that we needed to replace our mailbox because it was damaged and we would be fined $25 a day until we did so. The mailbox was fairly new so I went out to look at it. It was absolutely covered with bird poop. Cleaned it off and noticed that there was no damage, shrugged and emailed the HOA that the problem was rectified. They came out to verify that it was and I got another letter. More bird poop. A few hours of observation revealed that a hawk was perching on the mailbox stalking a chipmunk that was living in the garden around our mailbox. So I went to the garden store and got a bottle of 'predator pee' stuff that scares away small animals and sprinkled it around the mailbox, causing the chipmunk to relocate. Problem solved. Sadly, I did not send the HOA an envelope full of the stuff.
Hoa are places of choices for bitter and petty til' obsession type of people, give them a bit of power and here they are, overproud of their positions : making people with a life miserable and squeezing as much money from them as possible. Where i live the place of choices for these ones is into the police.
I'm always amazed they aren't victims of crime more frequently.
Load More Replies...It would have been a kind gesture to mail you're HOA some Sweet Predator Pee.
I would like to know more about the coup though... you skipped over the interesting part.
Check your by laws in most cases you need 30% of the homeowners to sign a petition for a special meeting. Talk to these people that have signed and then when you have the special meeting you need 66% of those people to vote the board out right on the spot you can basically fire the board in that fashion. I was done in our association. Do be careful however because in our association it was a group of people who are dissatisfied assholes who basically continually elect the same morons for the last 3 years who basically have no clue on how to run a board and will fine those that they go against. Only remove the board if it's absolutely necessary and make sure it's not just by a group of disgruntled people who will then set themselves up as their own little Nazi party to run the association. You need to have a group of good people who feel that this is a poor board and needs to be removed at all cost.
Sounds as id predator pee and HOA makes a good combination or maybe if people are lucky a HOA repellent!
I would have scraped up that bird poop and put it in an envelope to the HOA
My parents have a terrible HOA. They live in a neighborhood where some of the houses are along a golf course for a country club. The country club shut down two years ago and no one is maintaining the course. Most of the HOA board live on the golf course and they are all complaining that their property values are going down. So they concocted a scheme where they were going to raise the dues by $2000 a year and use the money to buy the golf course and country club then reopen them. I went to the meeting with my dad for entertainment and it was crazy. Someone asked if they would at least get a country club membership or access to the golf course because of the fee. They were told no, they would have to join the club. The base membership fee was going to be $30,000 and top out at $80,000. It did not get done.
Exactly. That's called capitalism. It's been a failed experiment for half a century now.
Load More Replies...Could you Imagine a bunch of these A- holes running a golf course! I'm sorry mr. Woods your driver is dirty that will be a $100,000 fine.
This is in Virginia Beach, city of highly overpriced housing, exorbant taxes including tourism taxes residents have to pay, high criminal activity, city employees that commit mass shootings, and the stench of low tide that's comparable to a dead carcass land fill.
not me but my sister. her front door broke because some delivery people f*cked up and she had it replaced. apparently it was the wrong color according to the HOA and she would be fined $500 a week unless it's corrected or REMOVED, because it's totally fine to not have a front door in LA.
another is from a sweet old lady that invited me in for tea and cookies when i was house hunting. the HOA there was $285 a month (below average for socal) and she told me that while she didn't mind the committee so much, she wasn't happy when 2 of her potted plants were shattered by kids playing ball around her house and the HOA wanted to fine her $65 a day until she has them removed from her front yard.
i ended up buying a home without HOA.
how did the delivery people f**k up that bad?? how did they break the door??
probably delivered heavy furniture or large appliance to the home, took it inside and broke the door somehow
Load More Replies...I had the same with the front door on my patio, I directly threatened the president in front of everyone. Also accused the lawyer of wasting the associations time and money on petty law suits most of which they lost and told him a that if a received another letter I would personally file up his a**. Funny thing was that because we have neighbours from different countries we have a translator how translates. I could see him taking notes as I ranted one so when I finished in Spanish I told don't worry it translate myself and carried on in English. Now I'm the crazy violent bastard in house 53. Worked fine for me, The president pretends he doesn't see me when we bump into each other.
I would tell them to make the kid's parents pay for new pots & that you will be happy to fix everything up as soon as they do.
If they make theses rules why don't they have to do the compliance requests why do you pay that heavy fee every year just to tell you what' wrong! Another kiss my butt to you!
Well evidently you sister's HOA thinks they made the neighborhood so safe that she doesn't need a door in L.A. or their just that out of touch with what is really going on out in the rest of the world, tgat they don't realize there is crime. They do know is 2022 don't they?
Not door in LA is insane. Plus I bet it invalidates any insurance should you be burgled. Utterly stupid. Esp with the street gangs going to burgle neighborhoods to replace lost marijuana revenue, and the LAPD NOT EVER showing up to help an elderly woman who came home to active burglars. True stories. Moved from LA last year.
"Gangs going to burgle neighborhoods to replace lost marijuana revenue" ?
Load More Replies...In California before you can fine anyone in an hoa they have to have a courtesy notice that allows 30 days to come into compliance then a hearing must be held with a minimum of 10 days before the date where the owner can respond in writing or show up in person. This situation is either not correct or the hoa is operating illegally.
My family moved to a new neighborhood when I was in kindergarten. My dad had built an amazing playhouse for me and my siblings. It had miniature windows, an miniature door, working lights, even AC. It was basically a tiny house before tiny houses were a thing. It was beautiful. He had built it on cinderblocks so that we could move it to our backyard of our new house once we moved. Perfect, right? Nope. The homeowner's association refused to let us bring it, citing that the neighborhood doesn't allow "toolsheds" because apparently they are an eyesore. Backyard playgrounds are fine, but somehow our playhouse didn't qualify as a playground. Me and my younger sisters were f*cking devastated. I remember crying and crying because I couldn't keep the playhouse that my dad worked so hard on. Hell, I'm 24 years old and I still tear up when I think about it. Why did anyone care so badly that they'd deny some kids their playhouse? I still drive by our old house once a year or so. The new owners haven't taken care of it and it's fallen into disrepair. I have other stories about our HOA-- such as how we were frozen out for having a "nontraditional" house color (gray. It was f*cking gray) and a woman who used to walk around the neighborhood with a clipboard to write people up for offenses that shouldn't matter.
I would have followed her around with my clipboard, drawing unflattering pictures of her, people like that can't take the slightest criticism of themselves.
Or get help from a kid. I read once that if you want to feel really horrible about yourself, ask a kid to draw a picture of you.
Load More Replies...This HOA is a f*****g B***h to bother kids for no good f*****g reason.
Ugh. We used to have some old retired guy who was the head of our HOA walking around the neighborhood several times a day with his self-important little clipboard and evil dog who would lunge and snap at everyone. $200 fine for installing a porch swing without HOA approval, $80 fine for putting my my garbage cans out too early the night before--mind you at the time I worked a night shift and left before the "approved" time and came home after garbage was already picked up. I suppose I should have just let the garbage pile up🙄--$50 fine for dead lawn in the middle of a drought, in 100+° weather, in hot-@$$ Texas🔥. Best day ever when, in this day and age of front door cams, several of us in the neighborhood caught the old D-bag letting his dog crap in people's yards and not picking it up. We all posted it on our neighborhood's Nextdoor. Haven't seen him walking the neighborhood since! Hahaha! Shamed him into minding his own d@mn business!
I wonder how they would have reacted to my childhood home that's mint green painted siding and red overpainted grey brick
Lived in Military housing in 88, hubby is in Japan for a year, I have a two year old, two jobs & got a written notice mid week that my lawn was 1/4 inch too long & needed to be taken care of in 24hrs or we could be evicted.🤯 Went to hubby's CO who sent a couple nice Marines over to mow...he also called the Ruler Ladys CO & Bitter Betty was NEVER seen in our section again!! 😁
Glad to hear that your husband's CO had your back. I am sure that Bitter Betty received the chewing out that so dearly deserved.
Load More Replies...HOA's can kiss my a**. Idk how people that live in neighborhoods with one can do it. Nobody is going to tell what I can or cannot do to my house or in my yard. Screw that!
I got fined for having a holloween pumpkin on my patio on Nov 1st.
Ooooh the pumpkin police. These people have WAY too much time on their hands.
One of my neighbors still has a pumpkin on their patio. It's almost April. It's weird, but what do I care? It's not hurting anything.
Geez a*****e!!! What were you thinking leaving your pumpkin out!!!! ROFL that was a joke in case someone thinks I'm actually serious.
One year they singled out a few of us, the Halloween enjoyers, (we prefer nuts.) We are only allowed one jack o lantern per house, try explaining that to multiple kids. No. So all the houses with between 2 and 5 pumpkins had fines stuffed in their boxes the morning of Nov 1st, multiple pumpkin fine, and displayed after Halloween fine. We talked it over, the next year after everything was over, we smashed them in the street. We all still got the multiple pumpkin fines, but no late display fine. The last year it was an issue went all out, ten pumpkins a piece. Carved our normal amounts, and just painted faces on the rest. One of the HOA guys commented to my neighbor while trick or treating, "gonna be jerks and smash all those in the street this year?" He said, "that's always depended on you, gonna be an a*****e and ticket our kids pumpkins?" No fine, no mess. Honestly, kind of a bummer. The amount of pumpkin guts would have been beautiful and terrible.
Very true, but these rules are simply excessive to the point of insanity and no person who even wants a HOA should ever be subjected to them
Load More Replies...Next year make drunk pumpkins. One with a beer bottle in its mouth, another puking seeds and "guts" up. Take them down at the required time, but have fun with it.
Before I moved to my new house, without an HOA mind you, I tried to plant a Japanese Maple Tree in my front yard. In reviewing the HOA rules and addendum, I discovered I had to submit the new "design" of my front yard to the HOA. To do this, I had to hire a professional landscaping firm to prepare a design showing the proposed location of the tree and tender the design with a fee to the HOA.
The HOA then reviewed the design, made a comment that they thought the tree should be located slightly right to the proposed location, I had to resubmit a new design matching the HOA's recommendation, get approval, all before I could plant a mother f*cking japanese maple tree in my mother f*cking front yard.
Because failure to comply would be... futile.
Load More Replies...I'd be doing some night time sowing of thistle seeds in the HOA committee members' gardens.
You moved in without a HOA, then complied.. I think the phrase "take a running jump" would have been my reply. At least the first time.
I think you misunderstood. They said "Before I moved into my new house, without an HOA..." So the new house had no HOA, but the story was *before* they moved, so st their old house which had an HOA.
Load More Replies...And yet again you say "America the land of the free"! FREE, free from what, choice?!
Jesus H. Christ. I get so tired of these f#cking idiots. Quora, BP, Reddit - they're everywhere. I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand. HOAs are private organizations that have nothing to do with the government and living in a neighborhood with an HOA is *voluntary.* No one can be forced to live in a neighborhood with an HOA, and the vast majority of neighborhoods do *not* have HOAs. Do you get it now?
Load More Replies...I would have waited a week and given them the original proposal back and tell them it was changed. I guarantee they would have approved it. It's about nothing but power for a bunch of pathetic people.
Why does everyone keep saying an HOA. Are you A homeowner or AN homeowner...HOA applies just the same.
This doesn't make any sense. You moved into a new house "without an HOA mind you", but had to review the HOA rules? WTF?
When I was a kid I remember our family had just moved into a new neighborhood. The first person to come greet us from our neighborhood was there to hand us a fine because the moving people left a small tire mark on one of the curbs.
Ugh. Reminds me of an HOA that we didn't find out we had (totally said we didn't want to buy a house with an HOA!) but after looking for MONTHS and we're sitting at the CLOSING we thought "how bad could it be?" We were taken to COURT for having mud on the back door bc the dogs would jump on the door when the wanted in (daylight basement door that can only be seen from the greenbelt DIRECTLY behind our house). Yes, they would walk down the greenbelt writing ppl up for sh** that NOBODY could see unless they were with the HOA a**h***s on their "inspection" walk!!! I PAINTED THE BACK DOOR TO MATCH THE MUD FROM OUR YARD!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA... No more tickets for THAT. (Just always something new....!!) Ugh!
We get "regular dirt mud" *and* "red clay mud," so two different colors of mud. I like your idea but wish it worked here.
Load More Replies...Can you imagine if all the people who ran HOAs were put on a island without anyone else. They'd all be walking around in circles with clipboards writing each other up. They be tearing down each other's shelter because it wasn't up to their standards. L.M.A.O.
When I was a kid in Arkansas the FIRST person to come was always a nosy Welcome Wagon have you made Jesus your personal savior lady...🙄
We moved into a HOA neighborhood on a Sunday. I planned to return the moving truck the next morning. The HOA slapped a violation sticker on the window (because, of course, a UHaul truck is my daily driver and I wasn't allowed to park it on the street...). The stuck it on so much that it took me over an hour to get it off in the morning.
Fined multiple times and threatened with a lien by the HOA because we would not water our grass during a major, major drought season.
It was cheaper and easier to fight the HOA since the City AND State passed regulations banning constant watering and green grass. The City had Google like vans with cameras that’d be driving neighborhoods to catch violators and fine them.
This is awful. Putting undue strain on an already fragile water system (you know, the thing you need in order to live?) in order to water a lawn? We are our own worst enemy.
I think I would use that to try and get out of the HOA. I mean it's essentially a contract right? So couldn't them ordering you to do something illegal be argued as breech of contract and void your agreement with them? I'm sure I'm wrong but could any lawyers or legal experts out there comment on this?
No contract or part of a contract requiring someone to break the law is enforceable. I'd tell my HOA that if they did not cease and desist, I'd file a complaint with the appropriate authorities if they continue.
Load More Replies...Absurd to have the authority to fine you for following the emergency drought law
How can they possibly require you that is against your city's laws? However temporary that law was?
lawns are trash anyway, they're so unhealthy for nature and wildlife, and so boring to look at
We are moving away from lawns. The local government and the accursed HOA s are urging us to keep only a small one because of the drought. Me, I'd rather grow a few flowers etcetera. Lawns are too HOA.
Impossibility of compliance - legally they cannot fine you for not doing something in violation of the law - trumps the HOA contract
They vetoed a cell tower because it would be ugly and we still have garbage service at home because of it.
This is possibly an unpopular opinion, but I think we'd be better off as a society if we let property values decline, because then more people could afford to buy in. Let's face it, the price of real estate has become completely ridiculous pretty much everywhere. I've had fantasies about becoming a billionaire and using that money to build loads of beautiful functional housing all over town and then selling those properties for pennies on the dollar, just to give people a fair chance at the "American dream". If successful, this would drive down the cost of real estate in the area in general.
Load More Replies...We have a sucky HOA. We have to get permission to sell our house. You have to make an application with the hoa and pay a fee when you get ready to put it on the market. I think it's none.of their business if and when you decide to sell.
I misread that several times because of poor writing. I think what you meant to write was, "They vetoed a cell tower because it would be ugly, and we still have crappy cell service at home because of it." What you wrote--- "... we still have garbage service at home---" is a good thing, because having to haul your trash to a dump yourself is a real pain at times. Garbage service (implied "weekly curbside garbage service") is ALWAYS a good thing!
Thank you for clarifying that, Jo! I had no clue as to what that meant! I seriously thought the same, which is why I came to the comments! 😂
Load More Replies...On a road trip in Utah we saw a sign for a place called Lone Tree. We were near the San Andreas fault so a single tree would have stood out pretty well. We were looking around for it and a ways down the road I saw a pine tree up on a little ridge all by itself. Turned out to be a cellphone tower.
Load More Replies...Because, to have a jurisdiction, they need actual lawful powers. Which they do not.
Load More Replies...NIMBY strikes again. So, tell me, do the residents complain about the cell service?
So the HOA in my parents' neighborhood sent my mother a letter to take down her two pink plastic flamingos because "they clashed with the architectural aesthetic" of the neighborhood (upper middle class sort of place). My mother formally complied, but made game flouting the rules after that. There were no restrictions in the bylaws against any sort of temporary seasonal decorations. So the flamingos come out for every holiday imaginable, redressed for the season. Flamingo witches and mummies for Halloween, pulling Santa's sleigh for Christmas, football players for the all-important Clemson/Carolina rivalry game. It has gotten to the point where her flamingo dioramas are a neighborhood institution with people looking forward them. On a related note, costumes meant for small dogs fit plastic pink flamingos pretty well.
So a while back, I was given a UGA Bulldogs flag and a flagpole to mount it on my porch. Our homeowners association (HOA) restrictions say that sports team flags can only be flown on a day in which the team is playing. My intention was to only fly it on Saturdays when the football team was playing. So I put the flag up on a Saturday the Dawgs were playing, but forgot to take it down until Monday. On Friday, I get a letter from the HOA stating that I am in violation of the restriction and could be fined. Okay, fair enough, they are correct on this one. I then noticed that the date of observation was on Wednesday. I called and said that couldn't be true because I took it down on Monday. Instead of admitting her mistake, she lied and said that she had seen it up on Wednesday. Now I was mad. I printed off a schedule of every sporting event the Bulldogs had in every sport, even club sports, and then proceeded to fly the flag every single day there was any kind of game, match, regatta, etc., which was almost every single day. I then started getting letters stating I was in violation again. I would call on each one and explain that the water polo team had a match, or the rowing team had a regatta on those days. After about a month or two of this back and forth, they finally gave up.
My family lived under the dictatorial regime of a HOA for about a year and a half... My dad, who is into ham radios, put up a small but hardly visible antenna on the back of the house. The top of it could be seen from the front, but only just the very top. Well, the HOA president told him that he had to take it down. He told them he would (although there was nothing in the bylaws forcing him to do so). The next day, the antenna is 15 feet taller, as my dad had raised the extension in response. The HOA president put a fine in our mailbox immediately and gave my dad a stern talking-to at our front door. The follow day, the antenna was raised up another 10 feet with an extension added in. At that point, it was clearly visible all over the neighborhood. Another fine showed up in our mailbox, and my dad had to go to another meeting. They threatened to begin eviction proceedings if he didn't take it down immediately. He acquiesced and agreed to take it down. The next day the antenna was still there, with my dad on the roof first thing in the morning, waving at the HOA president as he predictably came around to inspect. In a furious huff, he went to the council, called my dad in, and told him that they would begin eviction proceedings since he was not only violating HOA rules, but making a mockery of them. At that point, my dad pulled his ace card and had my uncle lawyer come in and explain that where we lived, HOAs could not regulate the use and transmission of ham radios and licensed operators due to their use for emergency communications and transmissions. My dad knew this all along, but just decided to mess with the HOA regardless. He kept his tower, and the HOA caved in on the fines and punishments and realized they couldn't do anything unless they wanted to take us to court and prove that what my dad had was unreasonable (which it clearly wasn't). It's his favorite story to tell at parties. I still think ham radios are boring, though.
They refused to let us have garage sales. My dad protested at a meeting, and the president said it was because they didn’t want “undesirables” in the neighborhood. My dad said, “Oh so you mean anybody who isn’t white, right?” And the president threw him out of the meeting. We had a garage sale anyway.
Unless he was Black (which I'm presuming he's not because it'd be a surprising omission), I'd've thrown him out, too, even though I agree with him. At least where I live, garage sales certainly have no association with Black culture. (Come to think of it, they may be whiter than mayonnaise.)
Where I live, garage sales are a great resource for folks with lower income. Due to systemic racism, xenophobia, and simply the fact that immigrant families have had to start over with little to their name, unfortunately, those with lower income are often BIPOC or Latino. Phrases like "low income" or, far less subtle, "the wrong kinds of people" become codes that racists and xenophobes use to signal their meaning without saying it outright.
Load More Replies...Didn't happen to me personally, but I guess I can tell you about my parent's experience with their HOA. Dad retired and decided that he really wanted to buy a camper and travel. Mom was all about it, both of them very excited. So dad runs off and trades his F-150 truck for a F-250 with a bigass diesel V8, buys a gooseneck camper, and waits for spring. Camper in the back yard, truck in the garage, no big deal. Not long after he gets a visit from a lady. She's got a list of rules from the HOA (that was established long after my parents had built their house, something like 15 years later when the subdivision really took off) saying that dad couldn't have the camper on his property because it was an "eyesore." Mind you this camper is in the backyard, behind a 6' privacy fence. You could still see it, sure, but it's not like it was old and in disrepair either. So here's my retired parents, living in a subdivision that has an HOA that was established long after they built their home, and the HOA is expecting them to abide by rules they didn't agree to. He never moved the camper.
I was a kid, and we moved into a subdivision with an HOA. My father was painting the front door a gorgeous burgundy over this ugly puke green, and our neighbor, who we called PoodleHead for her dog and her haircut, comes rushing over to tell him he can't do that, and all colors must be approved by the HOA color board. So my father apologized profusely. PoodleHead returned to her domicile. My father began putting everything away. He'd been about halfway through the job, and now our front door was a wonder of half burgundy and half vomit. PoodleHead trundled back over and told my father he couldn't leave the door like that, and he said she said he couldn't paint it, either. So it could stay like this, or she could tell him to keep painting. The front door color was approved on the spot and was still that color when I drove by the house 10 years later and after two ownership changes. It did really suit the house
My friend lives in a homeowner's association and they have a very strict rule on lawn ornaments and decorating. They have banned pink flamingos on their own (this is important later), and for Christmas, they require the house to have a theme. My friend was looking for a way to screw with them, and I found it for him in the Bahamas. The theme he chose was Christmas in Paradise. He sold it to the association by saying it would be bright colors to off-set the dreary winter we were having. They enthusiastically approved it. He found some plastic palm trees, borrowed nine of a friend's pink flamingos, and built a sled for Santa. The flamingos had reindeer antlers, and the one in front had a red nose stuck on. It looked something like this. He also had lights on the house, fake palms, and a sign that said Christmas in Paradise. The HOA couldn't do anything because I had found a painting in the Bahamas that inspired the whole setup and bought it for the friend with the flamingo collection, and it fit in with his theme.
the hoa couldn't do anything because op found a painting? that's a weird loophole in the hoa rules
Not mine but one of my good friends has a rather insane HOA. They actually used rented surveying equipment to determine that his clothesline was 1 inch taller than his fence and fined him several hundred dollars for some stupid "structure beyond the fence" rule they had. Same HOA has someone walking around actually measuring the length of grass with a ruler and issuing warnings for mowing.
I suppose you could probably use green Legos too. I h8 stepping on those darned things.
Load More Replies...My parents HOA is pretty typical, but there's one guy who's on the board who is crazy. For instance. Pretty standard rule, all extrtior paint colors have to be from this list of like 10 shades, or be approved. About 6 months after my parents moved in, they got a different color approved. Then they went out of town for a week, left me home to house sit (home from college for the summer)& hired a company to come paint while they were gone. No problem. Painters show up, do some prep work and then paint one side of the house. At about 6pm, someone starts pounding on the front door. It's this late sixties aged man, basically frothing at the mouth who instantly starts tearing into me about being in violation of HOA rules since I didn't get color approval& am I a renter, the HOA didn't approve of rentals, and 'no one has seen an adult home in days, just a rotating stream of teenagers (I was 19, looked about 16& had had a few friends over the night before to watch movies, and had a girl I drove to work every day get dropped off). I told him the homeowners were out of town, but as far as I knew, it had been approved& shut the door on him. He came back the next day and sheepishly apologizes for bothering me. He had personally approved of the paint, but had somehow missed that my parents house was the one being painted (he didn't know any addresses, just what families lived in what houses). Idiot.
Thought the same. The thing with the renters and teenagers is somewhat semi understandable and that he didn't just pretend nothing happened he apologized. HOAs still are creepy, but this story isn't bad.
Load More Replies...I was renting a house that was part of an HOA and the landlord dropped by to show me a fine notice for weeds in the front yard. He had told us how strict they were and I thought I'd done a pretty good job of it, in fact, I had weeded less that two days before the date on the letter. The landlord told me that before he knocked on the door he had looked over the yard and didn't find anything (bear in mind we had a typical AZ yard, I.e. 4 tons of crushes rock.) After 10 minutes of us both searching we eventually found a weed that was growing across some rocks maybe 3" long and less than 1/4" wide. You could only see it if you were right on top of it and it was in the middle of the yard. He was convinced someone was paid to check all the yards to find excuses for fines. As soon as we moved out he sold the house to be rid of that HOA.
They aren't allowed in your backyard w/o permission. That's trespassing
A neighbor within the HOA had a giant, ugly satellite dish in his backyard. The HOA rules stated that you couldn't have one of these on your property since it was ugly, and took away from the value of the house. So what does he do? He buys the ugliest hearse he can find, attached the satellite to it, and parks it on the street. HOA board calls the cops on cars every 24 hours (law is your vehicle has to move every 24 hours or you get a ticket/towed). So to spite them, every day he moves his hearse, with the satellite, to avoid a ticket or getting towed. And they couldn't do anything about it.
A huge hearse decked out with electronic gear? People might think there are worse problems in the neighborhood. Who ya gonna call?
Now if we could just train the ghosts to go slime the HOA board members
Load More Replies...A guy across town put up a flagpole. The HOA told him the only flagpole allowed was a small flag hanging at an angle on your porch. He took the pole down. He did some research on his contract and painted his garage door in an American flag pattern.
I know someone where his HOA prevents you from taking the trash out the day before pick up. Like if taking your trash out on sunday night for trash day monday was worthy of a $50 or $100 fine. 12:01AM Monday is fine, but 11:59PM sunday wasn't
Start loudly putting your trash out at 3am, on the correct day of course.
“Only plant oak trees” even after multiple arborists & botanists informed the board that doing so would give all of them various diseases and all would need to be cut down. 10 years later? All have been cut down because they have diseases and mites.
Just curious as someone who loves all things about biology: what was wrong with "only plant oak trees"? (as far as tree health,.... obviously, it's aesthetically awful to require such conformity) All I can guess is that disease can spread from one tree to another when there's nothing else between them, but I've never heard that and I'm sure I've seen thick groves of oaks before.
Oaks have mites and fungi that are just about inevitable if there's no buffer zones to keep the spores/ mites from being able to successfully migrate. These mites and fungi are specific to oak trees. There's a few different plants that are like this I know chestnuts are one and pine are another but it's been decades since I researched into this for a class so the info may be outdated by now
Load More Replies...Professional plant pathologist here- you are all mostly right, it's important to separate susceptible hosts from each other so if disease begins somewhere in the neighborhood, it's harder for it to spread. Best thing is to have different cultivars of a species so there are diverse genes with resistance to different pathogens and bugs.
Good to know! We're planning on planting some trees in our yard to replace 2 ash trees we had to take out due to the emerald ash borer. I don't know who picked the 'street trees' in our subdivision, but almost all of them are ash trees, and we all have to pay to have them treated every year. And treating for the borer is just a delaying tactic. Eventually, all the street trees are going to get it & have to be replaced. We hope to be gone from the neighborhood before that happens.
Load More Replies...There's an urban forestry good practice rule : 30-20-10. Never more than 30% of the same family, 20% of the same genre and 10% of the same species. Increases biodiversity, which in turn increases ecological functions, resiliency and resistance. In simpler terms, Monoculture = bad. 😅
Everyone in our neighborhood received fines for leaving garage cans at the road. It was trash day.
that's it, I am going to murder who ever came up with the idea of HOA!
Please use your DeLorean, go back in time and do it before they come up with it! Then we can all live in peace!
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My HOA decided that my trim needed to be painted RIGHT NOW. Threatened a $100 a month fine if it wasn't. The trouble is that it was January, and I live near Chicago.
As I was buying the paint, the salesperson keeps telling me that the paint won't dry, it will just freeze, and fall off within 6 months. I was selling in the spring anyway, so I didn't care. Painted the trim in a temperature of 7 degrees F.
Sucks for the people who bought the house. Not their fault the HOA is terrible
My mother died in September of 2016. My disabled father went into the hospital and then long term rehab until the present. The house was in my mom’s name and their neighbor across the street is the treasurer of the HOA. He knew my mom died of cancer within a year of her diagnosis and that my dad was in the hospital. He billed my dead mother for a year and when the bills were unpaid, he took it to court to begin foreclosure proceedings. At this point, I received a certified letter and contacted a lawyer to help. It was originally $1700, but increased to $4200 with late fees and attorney fees. Our lawyer is confident we can settle for far less than $4200. *Edit: * Thank you for all of the kind words and encouragement. I wanted to do some type of harm or vandalism, but that would not be good for my dad and I have too much to lose. As for sending notice, it was an automatic type of withdrawal that my mom took care of when she was alive and cancer free. I was naive and should have been on top of it, but I was taking care of my dad, grieving for my mom, and being a father/husband. When I went to the HOA to pay the fees, they told me I could only contact their attorneys, so I couldn’t go in that direction. I would love to provide you more specifics, but legally that would not be advisable. My attorney is very confident that this will end well for us. Thank you for the encouragement.
Not an HOA situation, but one in which I was put in charge of our Mom's finances a year or so before she died. Although she had been pretty good about managing all that after our Dad passed away, things got messy after she started having serious health issues (long story, not relevant here.) It's hard to describe what it's like dealing bill collection agencies and credit card people over late payments while a parent is literally dying inch by inch. I can really relate to what the OP was going through here, and I hope that frigging HOA gets royally screwed.
A few from our condo: No motorcycles even from visitors. So my buddy cant ride his motorcycle over to hang out. Has to take his car. No pets at all. No cats, no fish, no living creatures besides plants on your unit. I got in trouble for walking around "suspiciously" God forbid I I stretch my legs around the grounds without looking like I'm up to no good. Also the condo mafia changes and makes up rules as it suits them. I have a copy of the original HoA agreement andany of the rules are simple not in the original HoA.
Let me paint you a scene: a young married couple finds their first apartment and although it is far from perfect, it is spacious and 2 minutes away from work. Mind you this is the beginning of August...in South Florida. On the day we move in we see a letter posted for the HOA stating that someone HAS to be present in our unit while the workers are there to work on the central cooling unit. Okay, no big deal, I have the ability to work from home sometimes, so I did. Well, at the end of those two days (workers were to be there from 8AM-5PM) we were told that the project “was bigger than expected,” and found out exactly what was happening. They were replacing the piping of all 22 units in our complex, and we were lucky enough to have 1 of 2 points of access to the roof (in our bedroom closet). That roof access was utilized for 24 days out of the month of August anywhere from 1-14 hours a day. TL;DR: Newly weds spent first month of marriage alongside AC repairmen. Also, we still don’t have functioning central air.
This is more of a bad building design issue than hoa. The roof access should have been placed in a common area or maintenance closet
The problem is, that the HOA commanded them to always be at home, when the workers were there.
Load More Replies...My mom was always arguing with HOA, and once spelled out "FU" on the lawn in bricks and left it there until they gave her what she wanted.
While I was helping my buddy move stuff out of his house to a new house, my mom called me saying there was a family emergency with my father and I needed to come home right away... I drive home as fast as possible without getting pulled over. My neighborhood has a 25-mph speed limit. We live in a pretty diverse neighborhood, so quite a few people don't pay attention to it. Well, as I'm pulling 30-mph going up my street, I spot one of the HOA enforcers standing on her lawn and sprint into the middle of the street at the last minute. I slam on the brakes, and she runs up to me screaming about how dangerous it is to drive that fast and how I need to slow down because there are children (children are usually inside or monitored by parents when they're outside) and what I could have done. I simply gaped at her and said, "Normally, I'd expect a stupid child to run into the street without looking first. Guess I was right."
Yep. Could have caused another family to have an emergency too and children, even if supervised, can suddenly run on the streets too.
Load More Replies...what does it being diverse have to do with breaking speed limits?
seriously, the only way she could've known he was 5 over was to have developed an area with 2 fixed points to time the car between the 2 points and already have a predetermined time for 25 and 30 etc. She would then have to have a stop watch as well as an unobstructed view of the 2 points with a way of knowing exactly when you passed each. She would also be guilty of promoting speeding since someone would have had to actually do it for her to get her readings. Guarantee she would've run out in front of you even if you had been 5 under.
This is actually something that is ongoing battle between my friend's mom and her HOA, or more specifically one member. She lives inside this circular complex full of townhouses with a roundabout in the center that used to have a lot of trees and looked really nice, almost like a minipark. The HOA decided to cut down all of the trees without giving notice and my friend's mom was pissed. She went to complain about it and they basically said, "Sorry, too late." In protest of them doing that she decided to buy this big inflatable palm tree that she stuck on her balcony for all to see. One of the neighbors, who was in the HOA decided to file a complaint because it looked gawdy. She knew exactly who it was and it upset her more that this person did that instead of coming to talk to her after years of living near each other. She was able to keep her tree and when Christmas came around she even decorated it. She decided she was going to wage this war against the HOA and this neighbor by having annoying inflatable decorations on her balcony. When it started warming up she bought a flamingo, which she likes to dress in Chicago Cubs or Blackhawks gear depending on the season. I told my friend he should get her a 6ft wacky waving inflatable tube man to put on there next, which I think would be hilarious, but I don't know if she wants to take it that far.
Cant wash our cars in the driveway. Cant have any of the bushes or plants in our yard touch the fence. Got a giant sticker slapped on the side of my window for parking in the wrong "zone" even though it was in the same cul-de-sac.
Washing cars at home is forbidden in Germany, too, because oil and gas residues are an ecological hazard. Otherwise - as with most of the stories - I'm amazed at the amount of cräp HOAs get away with in the "land of the free"
I'm charging the hoa for needing to have my window professionally cleaned because of that sticker
charge them with assaulting your car, defacing private property and trespassing.
Load More Replies...My ex bfs father was part of the homeowners board for their townhouse community. His wife would walk their dog around the entire neighborhood every day and carry a notebook to write infractions to report back to her husband. Ridiculous stuff. Neighbors have a window a.c. unit? Reported and fined. Have a garden that's a square foot too big? Reported and fined. Some people have absolutely no lives.
Only one basketball goal allowed in the neighborhood. "Basketballs are too loud." -Old people
I also enjoy the sound of kids playing outside. Means they're happy. I don't even like kids, but I'm glad they're happy!
Not my story, but my dads. He moved into a new townhouse in summer of 2013. It was a foreclosure property, as the previous tenants were kicked out for not paying their mortgage and for not paying their HOA dues. They gave everyone in the HOA new patios and decks the summer prior -- it was required, and you had to get a new deck/patio. Buuuuuuuut...the tenants had to pay for 'em in monthly installments in the next three years along with their HOA dues. As I said, the previous tenants foreclosed on their home. However, there was one rule placed when they got the decks, which was that you couldn't move out without paying off your deck first. He was told by HOA that he would not have to pay off the deck because it was foreclosed and he was not responsible at all for paying it off. Sweet, free deck! He signed off on that. He moved in, but then he started getting assessments from the HOA for the deck. But -- wait -- he wasn't supposed to be paying for the deck? He fought it with the board. Even with the signed thing saying we didn't have to pay for the deck...the board went against him. He ended up having to pay off the remaining balance on the deck. To this day, he refuses to speak about this topic. It's a trigger for him.
No, he did NOT have to pay. He had a signed contract and should have gone to court to have it enforced.
If he has documentation from the hoa saying he didn't have to pay for it it probably influenced his decision to purchase that property. If have taken it to court if the board was standing by the assessments
Load More Replies...HOA just sounds like you're paying to live with someone's parents or in laws that hate you.
In laws that hate you is my guess!! 🤣 Houses in our can ONLY be in Nature colors...I'm 🙏 someone goes Turquoise Blue or Fushia-fushia...😈
Load More Replies...Why would anyone give up the control of their personal property to some HOA?
For the ability to control OTHER people's property. They're voluntary associations... but buying the property under HOA terms means that you're volunteering to be a part of them. If you don't like them, don't buy property in an HOA. If your neighbor lets his grass grow there feet high, leaves pick-ups (lorries) on the lawn, and trash all over the property, it can hurt your home value, so it makes sense to agree to some reasonable measures to keep the neighborhood from going trashy... and some HOAs have shared features, like playgrounds, club/party rooms, etc. But once you give people the right to tell others what to do, God help you.
Load More Replies...We got a photo and fine for visible dirt under our rose bushes. The required wood chip ground cover had been moved by some animal or another, leaving what was maybe 6" of dirt visible if you were standing on our lawn about 15' from the sidewalk and looking down. So yeah. Fined for dirt. My neighbors received a photo and fine for a bush that wasn't "full." Granted the little shrub was doing its best to not die but you couldn't see it from the street, and you'd have to walk 20' onto their property and behind a row of well cared for "full" bushes to see it. Neighbor and I will never stop laughing about how she was fined for not having a "full bush."
HOA Application: Pet: Cat, Name: Monkey ---- Me spending 25 days trying to convince the HOA that my pet is a CAT and not a MONKEY. Morons.
By that token, you should be able to name your cat Fern and not have to apply for it at all.
Load More Replies...These HOA things always boggle my mind --- the "Land of the Free" (tm)?!
HOAs, debt-inducing health care, a gun in every waistband, Trump supporters. Americans are a mysterious bunch.
Yes, because every one of us own guns and voted for Trump.
Load More Replies...In Slovakia kind of HOA we have in condo buildings too. But deninitely means nothing, rules cant be used as law, those rules are just recommending things, so max you can be only mad at your neighbors when they do not follow the rules. You can get fine only from authorities when you violate a real law. So i laughed at this 😀
Same here, but there only here to ensure the maintenance of the communal parts of the buildings. It doesn't make sense when you own a house.
Load More Replies...People, please remember that your HOA boards must be elected. It's a job that non-psychos are often too busy for, so the leadership positions sometimes go to the most psychotic, bitter anti-social control freaks. The sad thing is that too many neighbors simply don't want the controversy of contested elections, so instinctively go against the "trouble-makers," so it's hard to run as the "reformer," but if you know of several other neighbors who have been having trouble with the board, please try to present an alternative.
When we lived at our old condo my kids were small and used to love playing in the courtyard. Then we got a threatening letter from the strata stating we were breaking bylaws. Looked through it all and didn’t find a single one we broke so I sent a letter back saying if they threatened us again we would take legal action. Never heard from them again. Found out later the elderly people in the building loved hearing the kids play.
HOA just sounds like you're paying to live with someone's parents or in laws that hate you.
In laws that hate you is my guess!! 🤣 Houses in our can ONLY be in Nature colors...I'm 🙏 someone goes Turquoise Blue or Fushia-fushia...😈
Load More Replies...Why would anyone give up the control of their personal property to some HOA?
For the ability to control OTHER people's property. They're voluntary associations... but buying the property under HOA terms means that you're volunteering to be a part of them. If you don't like them, don't buy property in an HOA. If your neighbor lets his grass grow there feet high, leaves pick-ups (lorries) on the lawn, and trash all over the property, it can hurt your home value, so it makes sense to agree to some reasonable measures to keep the neighborhood from going trashy... and some HOAs have shared features, like playgrounds, club/party rooms, etc. But once you give people the right to tell others what to do, God help you.
Load More Replies...We got a photo and fine for visible dirt under our rose bushes. The required wood chip ground cover had been moved by some animal or another, leaving what was maybe 6" of dirt visible if you were standing on our lawn about 15' from the sidewalk and looking down. So yeah. Fined for dirt. My neighbors received a photo and fine for a bush that wasn't "full." Granted the little shrub was doing its best to not die but you couldn't see it from the street, and you'd have to walk 20' onto their property and behind a row of well cared for "full" bushes to see it. Neighbor and I will never stop laughing about how she was fined for not having a "full bush."
HOA Application: Pet: Cat, Name: Monkey ---- Me spending 25 days trying to convince the HOA that my pet is a CAT and not a MONKEY. Morons.
By that token, you should be able to name your cat Fern and not have to apply for it at all.
Load More Replies...These HOA things always boggle my mind --- the "Land of the Free" (tm)?!
HOAs, debt-inducing health care, a gun in every waistband, Trump supporters. Americans are a mysterious bunch.
Yes, because every one of us own guns and voted for Trump.
Load More Replies...In Slovakia kind of HOA we have in condo buildings too. But deninitely means nothing, rules cant be used as law, those rules are just recommending things, so max you can be only mad at your neighbors when they do not follow the rules. You can get fine only from authorities when you violate a real law. So i laughed at this 😀
Same here, but there only here to ensure the maintenance of the communal parts of the buildings. It doesn't make sense when you own a house.
Load More Replies...People, please remember that your HOA boards must be elected. It's a job that non-psychos are often too busy for, so the leadership positions sometimes go to the most psychotic, bitter anti-social control freaks. The sad thing is that too many neighbors simply don't want the controversy of contested elections, so instinctively go against the "trouble-makers," so it's hard to run as the "reformer," but if you know of several other neighbors who have been having trouble with the board, please try to present an alternative.
When we lived at our old condo my kids were small and used to love playing in the courtyard. Then we got a threatening letter from the strata stating we were breaking bylaws. Looked through it all and didn’t find a single one we broke so I sent a letter back saying if they threatened us again we would take legal action. Never heard from them again. Found out later the elderly people in the building loved hearing the kids play.
