42 Historical Facts Which Appear To Be Too Bizarre To Be True Yet They Are, As Told By Folks In This Online Thread
Of all the sciences created by humankind, history is probably the most flexible and ambiguous. As you may know, history is written by the winners, and you are unlikely to have any doubts that if, say, the South won the Civil War, today we would study from slightly different history textbooks. Yes, and "Gone with the Wind" would hardly have been written, let alone filmed.
And yet, even with all the relativity of historical assessments of different events, there are facts which, upon hearing them for the first time, we will definitely say "You cannot be serious!" However, any more or less careful fact-checking will confirm that this is indeed the case. History - you know, she's a very capricious old lady.
A few weeks ago, a new thread appeared in the AskReddit community, the topic starter of which asked people "What is a historical fact that seems unbelievable?" As of today, the thread has over 700 upvotes and almost a thousand and a half comments as well, containing both obvious fakes and really incredible but true things - as well as fierce disputes over how to separate the first from the second.
Bored Panda has carefully done everything ourselves. First, we thoroughly went through the original thread, selected the most popular and incredible facts and stories told in the comments, and then just as carefully and meticulously checked each fact apiece. If at least some doubt arose, the fact was mercilessly sent to the wastebin.
So now, meet our selection of the most incredible, but 100% true random and not only historical things. Please feel free to scroll to the very end and, of course, add some similar facts you know - but fact checking is definitely a must! Just have a good and amazing read!
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If we held a minute of silence for every victim of the Holocaust, the world would be silent for 11.5 years. It’s crazy to visualize the mass amount of human loss from this event.
Every victim was their own person with their own story which ended long before it should’ve. So many stories and chapters of life were gone. So many children lost their chance of living a childhood, so many people never got the chance to better themselves, so many love stories ended, so many things could’ve potentially happened which never did. Once you stop seeing things as statistics and instead focus on the emotions, it becomes terrifying and tragic
Incorrect. The Nazis murdered approximately 11 million men, women and children. Most people think about the 6 million Jewish people murdered and forget about the 5 million others made up of disabled, various ethnic groups and communists, Masons and gay people. So, in fact, if we had a minute's silence for each person they murdered it would be 21.9 years..
Thank you for this additional comment. The mass murder of jews is incomprehensible and there is no excuse for it! But there were so many types of murdered people... Like Roma and Sinti, they're always forgotten as victims. And the horrible mistreatment of disabled and mentally ill people (even a lot of them were not really mentally ill or disabled) continued till the 1980s. I suffer from mental illnesses and just 80 years prior I would have been killed as hopeless case, and up to the Sixties there was a likelyhood that somebody like me would have suffered a lobotomy and the risk of being legally sterilized was up until the 1980s. I had a lot of therapy, I don't have a lot of money, but I believe that I reached a point where I can give back A LOT!
Load More Replies...I really do hate the people that try to deny the fact that the holocaust existed.
And all the bs that lead to this is pretty much repeating right now. Notice, and fight against it.
Rwanda! Which was 30 years ago. All the indigenous peoples living in the Amazon rainforest basin! Kurds! Caucasians (and yes, they are an indigenous peoples living in Eurasia)
Load More Replies...What's crazy is there are people that still don't believe it happened.
There are still people that will tell you covid is a hoax. Some people just can't imagine something that didn't happen to them personally exists and sometimes even then they struggle.
Load More Replies...Sadly, the world was silent for the 11.5 years preceding the Holocaust, too.
when i was in middle school I met a Holocaust survivor who miraculously survived Auschwitz . She showed us the tattoo on her arm and shared her story. It was evident that it pained her to talk about it yet she bravely traveled around so kids would learn about it first hand. We were so horrified to see a human being branded like a.cow. I shall never forget this courageous survivor who had a lasting impact on my life.
k guys im back to crying over historical events so who wants to come cry in the closet and be mute for 11.5 years with me
Ancient Thebes once assembled an elite military force consisting of 150 pairs of gay male lovers. They were believed to fight better because they wouldn't want to act cowardly or unmanly in front of their boyfriends. They went undefeated in war for years.
They weren’t any more gay than any other culture in any other time in history including the present. They were just open about it and Not hung up by religious BS
Load More Replies...Modern application of this technique: elite military force consisting of bi and pan people. Gender doesn't matter, they will all be afraid of seeming unman/woman/personly in front of anyone. (Just kidding, this wouldn't actually work. I think.)
lol or you could just have straight couples but no, WoMeN CanT FiGHT TheY ArE WeaK /s
true true, but i feel like the men would keep trying to save the women and it would get annoying as f**k
Load More Replies...Hey, wasn’t Apollo in the Greek Myths bisexual? (Cue the downvote fairies for asking something that could’ve been searched on google, or something that might not be correct. I think the downvote fairies are spawning more these days, since there is someone who’s tracking my comments and downvoting me and a few choice others. Just reminding everyone that you’re got no problem, the random downvoters have. Have a nice day and I am the paranoid, over-talkative and annoying hedgehog.)
Yeah everyone in ancient Greece was gay as f**k
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Elizabeth II was on the throne for over a quarter of the United States' existence.
RIP, Your Majesty Queen Elizabeth II! Duty done, ma’am, and enjoy your eternity. 💔
Dont know why you were downvoted, have sn upvote
Load More Replies...Her cousin Edward, 2nd Duke of Kent paid homage to her at the Coronation in 1953, at age 17; he'll be 87 at King Charles III's Coronation. He's been Duke since 1942, when his father was killed in an air crash on the way to Iceland.
Not hard to believe at all. USA as a country is barley put of the toddler age, timewise.
And the world watches and waits in fascinated horror as it moves through to adolescence
Load More Replies...She was very good looking and very well dressed.
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There were archaeologists in *Ancient* Egypt studying about *even more* ancient Egypt.
To put this into context: There was more than a thousand years between the Pyramids being built (around 2630 BC) and Tutankhamun being Pharaoh. (1332 BC) and another more than a thousand until Cleopatra ruled Egypt (51 to 30 BC) which means Cleopatra was alive around 2050 years ago. meaning as of 2023 she lived closer to our modern time than she did to the pyramids being built.
I know that Graham Hancock is considered a kook by archeologists, but I believe his theories have merit. As humans, we've forgotten our history which is why we have archeologists. How come we've forgotten our our history of existence when literally, the writing of our history is on the walls across the planet? Why do so many cultures not connected at all have the same mythologies of floods and giants, why do they all have pyramids in common?
Load More Replies...I know I've said this before but it tickles me so much I'm going say it again. The year before the millennium, the Egyptian tourist board placed an advert saying "visit us in our seventh millennium"
I know that Graham Hancock is considered to be a kook by archeologists, but I believe his theories have merit that deserve exploration.
Load More Replies...There were historians in Ancient Greece and Rome also studying their own histories, and the histories of past civilizations. Mostly it was propaganda, but they do provide a lot of useful information for modern historians. Let's also not forget historians like Sima Qian, he was a Han Dynasty historian, studying the history of even more ancient China. As was Ban Zhao, the first known female historian, born during the 1st century AD (by western calendars of course).
Why do you only cite western sources as being truth, but mention one Asian source as a historian when Asia was far more advanced in writing and technology than any western civilizations? The Chinese had printing presses several hundreds of years before the Europeans, and gunpowder, and hygiène, medicine, etc.. It's a conceit that Europe owes so much to the Roman's when Asian cultures already has and used these technologies long before the Roman's acquired them.
Load More Replies...The pyramids aren't 5000 yrs old, they are over 10,000 yrs old. It was determined that the wear at the sides of the Spinkx was caused by water, not wind blown sand and the Nile river was big enough to do that only 10,000 yrs ago.
Read about this a few years ago:
In 1943 a group of German sailors on a U-Boat emplaced a weather station on the Canadian coast (Labrador) so the Germans could more accurately predict the weather for military operations (since weather in the Northern hemisphere generally moves west-to-east.) The weather station was marked with fake signs indicating that it was a Canadian military facility and for unauthorized personnel to keep out.
The weather station was eventually discovered by the Canadians....
...In 1977.
Yes you are Roach. Your fellow brethren runs fast… where I am, they fly too.
Load More Replies...Picture isn't accurate. Actually looked like a series of 55 gallon barrels with an antenna.
It wasn't staffed for very long. The story is hilarious and worth looking up
The first battle of the American Civil War was fought on land owned by a Mr. Wilmer McLean. After the battle he decided to move further out in the country to avoid the war...where four years later Gen. Lee surrendered to Gen. Grant in Mr. McLeans house. The war started and ended on his property.
I raise you One better, ( i dunno the dates by head now, neither the name of the gentleman in question, but any of you interested can Google him ) there was a Japanese gentleman that was in Hiroshima when the Americans droped the 1st Atomic bomb, the man in question survived and decided to go to his family house in..... Nagasaki lol, and Guess what, he survived again, its the only man on the Guiness book of world records to have survived 2 Atomic bombs.
Small correction, he was on business in Hiroshima when the 1st bomb hit, then after that, because of his work ethic, he returned straight back to work in his home city of Nagasaki. While back at work explaining what happened, the 2nd bomb hit. He died in 2010 aged 93
Load More Replies...The last British soldier killed in the first world war just 90 minutes before the armistice is buried in the same cemetery as the first who was killed 17 days into the war in 1914. They rest just a few metres away from each other. 4 years of fighting and precisely NOTHING was gained.
The author Robert A. Heinlein (Starship Troopers) moved out of Los Angeles because he feared it would be a prime target for russian ICBMs. Only month later he got a letter that informed him that they build the NORAD HQ around 30km away from his new home.
1) Bull Run, aka First Manassas to the Confederacy. 2) Appomattox. Wilmer sure could pick ‘em, couldn’t he?
He said the battle started in his front yard and ended in his front parlor.
Nope. The American Civil War ended in Rock Ferry, Birkenhead (in England), when the last Confederate ship surrendered to the Royal Navy instead of surrendering to the Union. Obviously in those days it took a long time to get messages to ships at sea, so the naval divisions were still fighting after the general surrender had been signed.
University of Oxford is older than the Aztec Empire.
The yoghurt in Nathaniel's fridge is older than the Aztec Empire, too. 🤎
apparently i spend too much time on BP, cause i understand that 😃
Load More Replies...Oxford's New College is called "New" because it was founded very late...in 1317.
Which still makes it older than the Aztec Empire!
Load More Replies...The oldest being the University of Bologna... piled higher and deeper, as they say.
Oxford University is older than a lot of things! The US, Australia, the aeroplane, the car, the printing press....
We live closer in time to TRex than TRex did to Stegosaurus. Dinosaurs were here forever.
Weren’t the dinosaurs here wayyy longer than we have, we could go extinct like they did 0-0
We could definitely go extinct. A giant meteor may arrive out of nowhere like many times before and swipe almost all life from the planet. But life will find a way.
Load More Replies...Let's see.... Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Modern humans (homo sapiens) have existed for about 300,000 years. That means, for almost earth's entire existence, (99.993%), we didn't exist. If we look at our ancestral evolution, the earliest Homo genus is thought to have appeared about 2 million years ago. That is STILL 99.96% of earth's existence being without humans. We are not nearly as important to this planet as we think we are. We need the earth. It does not need us.
Fun fact: Scientists discovered roach fossils dating back as far as 350 million years, actually pre-dating some dinosaurs. 👵🏻
So like some very ancient family members of yours. Neat
Load More Replies...So, STEP OUT AND WE WILL FIGHT, WHOEVER DOWNVOTED THIS. IS THIS OFFENSIVE? IS THIS SPAM? Good grief, is BP already a site where someone could be downvoted because of a single DAMN WORD that is ‘T-Rex’??? Once someone downvotes, others follow like sheep.
Load More Replies...Then why do all of the playsets have both of them and more? Checkmate, MARX!
Marx products were awesome and fueled my childhood.
Load More Replies...So the little T-rex's had colorful books about prehistoric dinos like the Stegosaurus.
King George III known as the ‘Mad King’ apparently suffered severe mental illness the majority of his life. He was tied to chairs, gagged, bled, left in freezing rooms to try and ‘treat’ him.
In 2005, DNA testing on his hair found extremely high levels of lead and arsenic. Medications he was being given for other ailments sent him insane for a slow likely painful death
This actually made me laugh out loud 😂
Load More Replies...DNA testing would not find any traces of anything... apart from DNA. The latest theories suggest that he was in fact suffering from mental illness, not lead poisoning, not porphyria (long held to be the cause) and certainly not arsenic.
According to Wikipedia (no time for a more thorough look at the moment) there was some testing done on his hair. Not DNA testing, of course. Like you say, DNA doesn't tell you about what you may have ingested, but hair is commonly tested to determine that. "However, a study of samples of the King's hair published in 2005 revealed high levels of arsenic, a cause of metabolic blood disorders and thus a possible trigger for porphyria. The source of the arsenic is not known, but it could have been a component of medicines or cosmetics." So they did find arsenic and it is a possible link to porphyria, but far from conclusive proof that he had porphyria rather than a mental illness.
Load More Replies...Insane how many treatments were found to be worse than the disease they were treating over the years!
Look at Blackbeard - was a d**k. Got syphilis and went a little cray cray. Started getting the syphilis treated with mercury and went lighting fireworks in his beard crazy
Load More Replies...There was an entire film about it called "The Madness of King George". https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110428/
Nigel Hawthorne in one of his best roles! "I am the King of England!" -- "No Sir, You are the patient!"
Load More Replies...The upper classes in Britain got indoor plumbing early, lead pipes, and later on had a lot of old folks out of their senses with lead poisoning.
Lead plumbing was still the norm when I was a kid, but was considered safe, as long as you didn't use the hot water for drinking or cooking, as it would dissolve/absorb the lead at higher temperatures. A habit that sticks with me to this day.
Load More Replies...(If you get it you get it) "I will send a fully armed battalion to remind you of my love! Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat, dat, da-ya-da Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat, dat, da-ya"
The entire country of Malta was awarded the George Cross for its efforts in WWII. It's still on their flag.
The Governor Malta To honour her brave people I award the George Cross to the Island Fortress of Malta to bear witness to a heroism and devotion that will long be famous in history. George R.I. April 15th 1942 (Wikipedia)
it's an island in the mediterranean. ... you didn't know?
Load More Replies...Malta was an important allied supply and naval base. It endured relentless attacks by the Luftwaffe, yet never gave an inch, despite its RAF squadron being reduced, at one point, to three obsolete biplanes named Faith, hope and Charity.
The rings of Saturn are younger than Stegosauruses.
Stegosauruses roamed the earth ~150-180 million years ago. Saturn's rings have only existed for ~100 million years.
what does the Starship Enterprise and toilet paper have in common? they both circle Uranus to wipe out Klingons. old joke i know
It's new to me. Apparently the rings were thought to be as old as Saturn (I guess same age as the Solar system 4.5 billion years ago) but data from the Cassini-Huyges space mission 2014-2017 combined with new theories suggest this much newer origin of 100 million years.
Guess the rings needed years to form and become one of the wonderful wonders in our galaxy.
All the Gas Giants have them. Mars will have them in the future too.
Load More Replies...Bobby Leach was the second person to ever go over Niagara Falls in a barrel. He survived, but his injuries kept him hospitalized for six months. He died 15 years later from injuries sustained after he slipped on an orange peel.
Imagine surviving all that just to go out by a orange peel. Hospitalised for 6 months, came out alive from a f*****g waterfall fall, all to get injuries, from an ORANGE peel.
I think you're right. It was the great depression. Nobody could even afford oranges. WTF?
Load More Replies...Why??? Bananas are good. Also I do like pears and apples aren't usually rubbish. Ok, idk who will get this. Maybe I DO want a "stupid " satsuma, btw. Well, I tried so just downvote.
Load More Replies...If I lived a million years, it would never occur to me to go down Niagra Falls in a barrel.
The first 200 000 years or so of being highly sentient human beings are lost in history. We only know the last circa 2000-4000 years from texts.
The first recorded joke - a fart joke that is 4000 years old - uses the term "since time immemorial" (or the sumerian version). Even though one should not take that literally, it suggests that you could travel back in time to find people consider their civilization ancient already.
And it was. When that joke was written down in cuneiform, the pyramid of Djoser had already been standing for 700 years. And when **that** pyramid was built, the city of Catal Höyuk was 3000-5000 years old!
And still, that was built during *the latest 2.5% of human history*.
We have lost so goddam much that it hurts to think of it.
Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband’s lap.
Load More Replies...Well, we had to refine our language enough to make a joke, then develop written language to write it down to remember it/pass it on/leave it for posterity—-or should that be “posteriority” in this case?
Trivia fact: in British law, "time immemorial" means "before 1187".
It's fantastic that they needed to quantify that!
Load More Replies...Just goes to show that farts are universally funny. Never doubt the power of the chainsaw ripper and the SBD.
I wonder if we ever will find out?! All the hidden settlements and treasures. Just look at the Aztec(?) in the jungle that have been found with LIDAR scans!
Just because there are no written records, it doesn't mean it's lost to us. There's lots of artifacts and artwork that predates writing by thousands of years.
That’s why we have archaeologists. It’s not all lost, you know, they can reconstruct a lot of things
Sharks have been on earth far longer than trees. The first sharks arose over 100 million years before the first tree.
So they appeared around the time Saturn got it's rings... Coincidence, I THINK NOT!
🎶Sharks are old there, older than the treeees🎶 younger than the mountains, growin like a breeze🎶
Wait a minute… I seen Sharknado. Don’t let them tricky buggers fool ya! They go in trees too man ! Lol
Load More Replies...I always thought of trees as just existing despite everything else evolving. 🙃 this fact requires me to do more research.
Came way before, survived several extinctions, to go extinct over plastic and soup.
There are funguses that cover entire forest floors that work like a neural network, for both themselves and the trees. If the fungus is say, ingured by a dog on one end, trees on the other end will increase their bark for additional protection.
If they're covering the floor, there's not mushroom for anything else...
These are networks of something called mycelium if anyone wants to learn more.
'If the fungus is say, injured by a dog on one end, trees on the other end will increase their bark' - Then the dog must increase IT'S bark
The head of German military intelligence during WW2 was providing the Allies with intel.
Thank goodness for people like this who had incredible courage during this terrible war.
Admiral Canaris was playing his own game during the war. He allowed certain leaks that suited his needs. He was involved in 7 failed assassination attempts against Hitler, and even entered several secret negotiations with the allies (one where he offered to get out 1 million Jews in return for getting himself, and his inner circle so South America with a pension for life. He was turned down. As an act of good faith he got the Grand Rabbi of the Chabad sect out to Turkey, to show he was serious) about ending the war. He was later imprisoned in Auschwitz and executed by the SS for treason after the famous Operation Valkyrie.
he played the game of the nazi leadership, of which chabad was a supporter; no surprise that an obscure country, but with a heavy byzantine presence (be they late phanariote impostors of romanian, aromanian, albanian and greek ethnicity instead of the original phanariot and byzantines and roma and cumans instead of the older huns, both categories dwindling in number) knew before the war how europe will look after it!
Load More Replies...And Edward 8th, him of the Wallis Simpson fame, was sharing key military information about installations and bases with the nazis because he agreed with their views concerning race and imagined that if the Germans took over then hitler would help him get back the throne.
And Wallis Simpson was the mistress of the German ambassador to the UK, Joachim von Ribbentrop, who was later Hitler's foreign secretary. The Nazis were getting important information out of her too, whether she knew it or not.
Load More Replies...A very important source of information for the allies, was actually the Japanese Ambassador in Berlin. https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2019/06/the-japanese-ambassador-to-berlin-who-involuntarily-made-normandy-landings-easier-to-the-allies/
General Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of the Abwehr! Look him up, he's absolutely awesome. Even better, read "Plots Against Hitler", this book by Danny Orbech (I think that's his name I forgot), there's a large part on the man there that does him fair justice
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Between the 16th and 18th century, slave ships from Africa raided the Mediterranean and enslaved up to a million people. Sometimes entire islands were captured and taken away. Raids were made on seaside towns of Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, England, the Netherlands and as far away as Iceland, capturing men, women and children. It was so bad that people stopped living on long stretches of coast in Spain and Italy.
This refers to the slave trade on the Barbary coast, the part of the Ottoman Empire that nowadays roughly coincides with Tunisia and Algeria. The raids were mostly on mercantile ships, with occasional raids of unprotected coastal towns and islands. At a time, the islands of Ischia, Gozo, Mallorca, Tenerife were assaulted and most of the population taken in slavery. The newly formed United States sought to make a deal with the pirates to protect their shipments, but when the deal fell through they had to resort to war. The USA sent the USS Philadelphia, one of their most prized frigates... who was promptly beached by a mistake of Cpt. Bainbridge and the men captured as slaves. Future commodore Decatur had to lead a mission to burn her to avoid leaving a 1st class warship in the hands of the pirates.
... and at the rest of the Africa there were black people who were selling black slaves to Muslim or European merchants.
Load More Replies...I’m guessing this fact will surprise a few who assume it was only Americans getting black Africans
I don't think anyone who graduated high school assumes that
Load More Replies...In America, some white people do get the blame. It's NOT incorrect as far as this nation's history goes. Those who are over-offended by that are telling on themselves.
Load More Replies...This is poorly worded. Does it mean Africans were enslaving Europeans? Or does it mean Europeans sailing from Africa were enslaving other Europeans? And where did the slaves eventually end up? In Africa?
African slavers taking Europeans. Slavery worked both ways. As late as the early 1800s in Tobruk and Bengazi they were bringing in fresh captured white slaves to the slave markets, some who were sold into central Africa.
Load More Replies...This ship is The Matthew. It’s a replica that was built in 1996 to mark the 500th anniversary of John Cabot’s voyage to North America. Its current mooring is 100 yards from my home - Wapping Wharf in Bristol, UK
because they're cramped here; otherwise they will be evil to others.
Load More Replies...Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt went for a swim in the ocean and just disappeared. To honour him we now have the Harold Holt Memorial Swimming Centre.
See Nathaniel’s comment a bit above: I am still brainwashed by the song…ancient shark, doo-doo, doo-doo, ancient shark—
Load More Replies...My favourite theory is he caught a lift out of the country on a German submarine 😄
Russian surely? I mean it is a hilarious theory given there were people on the beach looking for him who apparently didn't notice a submarine surfacing ... But honestly it's just another why women live longer than men thing. The sea was so rough no one else thought it was safe and he had a shoulder injury and had been told not to swim by his doctor but hey, she'll be right ... And next thing you know he's gone. His mistress was on the beach. I'm sure that played into his display of machismo.
Load More Replies...Australian Prime Ministers have free membership, but alas no other has disappeared...
In 90 years from 1841 to 1930 Ireland's population halved, from 8.4 million to about 4 million. The Famine started the decline, but emigration sustained it - Ireland's population didn't start growing again until the 1960s, and there are still about 2 million fewer people living there (Eire and NI) than in 1841.
This is why there are so many Americans who claim to be of Irish descent - because Ireland was so badly affected by the famine that millions left the country. My grandmother on my mother's side and my great-grandmother on my father's side both left Ireland years ago.
Yup. I’m a little over a quarter Irish and several of my Irish ancestors left during the famine.
Load More Replies...NOT A FAMINE. There was plenty of food, but it was more lucrative to the absent landlords to sell it overseas than to locally. There were emergency relief/aid ships sailing in past commercial produce ships sailing out.
Well, maybe the Catholic Church shouldn't have killed all those mothers and children deemed 'illigitimate'.
Be fair, they didn't kill all the children. They stole loads and sold them.
Load More Replies...All the food they had was being taken to England to feed the English instead.
They did the same thing to India during World War II.
Load More Replies...The famine was caused by the English stealing and stockpiling Ireland's food.
It was not a "famine" per se, it was a genocide that conveniently coincided with a potato blight
Lads I think yous all need to stop with the whole "Famine" and "great Famine" terms....its called Genocide. Why has the history of Éire been so badly re-written and just accepted that it was a Famine. We had plenty of food.
The famine would have been bad but the British (who ruled it at that time) deliberately witheld aid from Ireland and allowed many to die. This was the reason why so many then emigrated to the 'New World' Only when it gained independence from Britain did things begin to improve. It's no wonder that the Union Jack is nicknamed the Butcher's Apron..
The Famine may have started the decline, but the British ensured it by exporting food out of Ireland and into England, exponentially increasing the rate of Irish starvation.
Albert Einstein turned down the presidency of Israel.
To me it's a well known fact. In 1952 he was offered the presidency and said he was honoured but turned it down. The president of Israel like many other countries is not like the US and French presidents who have strong political power. It's a mostly "ceremonial" role, a well respected person who represents the state. Think of UK, where there's a prime minister who is the political leader, but a queen or king (not a president), but this person stands above politics.
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The great wall of China has existed longer than Christianity
For example several other religions still worshipped today...
Load More Replies...Every original Chinese invention has existed longer than Christianity.
We have been around for 3000 years and we aren’t going anywhere.
Load More Replies...Carrots don't improve eyesight, that's World War Two propaganda made up by the British to cover up the existence of radar
If your diet is deficient in Vitamin A, then yes, eating carrots will help. But it's a fine line. The misunderstanding may also arise because there is a source of Vitamin A called carotene.
No, it’s just as the entry says - it was propaganda
Load More Replies...ok so next time my parents say "eat your carrots, it's good for your eyesight" I'll just say, "THATS JUST GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA
When the British developed radar in WW2, the Germans didn't know about it. The brits wanted to keep it that way as long as possible, so they came out with (or amplified an existing) the carrot myth to explain why so many German planes were getting shot down at night. Carrots are good for your eye health, but the do not improve your actual eyesight meaningfully.
Load More Replies...One thing carrots will do is turn your skin kind of orangey if you eat many of them. One of my kids had diarrhea as à baby and for two months, until the trouble was found and fixed, all he ate was non- dairy formula substitute, carrots and bananas. His skin had started to take an orange hue, especially around the mouth and nose. Weird.
Happened to a friend of mine! For some reason she got on a carrot juice kick. Started at her hands and feet then worked towards the middle.
Load More Replies...Another one is the iron in spinach, there was an error; https://historiesofecology.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-real-decimal-point-error-that.html
Carrots weren't even orange! One of the stories is the Dutch create orange carrots...
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Joe Biden was born closer to Abraham Lincoln’s assassination than he was his own inauguration.
Joe Biden was born 5 years after Amelia Earhart went missing so he's in the clear.
I like him but there really needs to be an age limit on running for office. Maybe no older than 65?
Considering that most companies won't hire elderly people because of lack of mental acuity, yet he's running the country.
Load More Replies...https://you.regettingold.com/20/11/1942/Sm9lIEJpZGVu/ older than the Battle of Fredericksburg too
Having such an old president is really unfortunate, but a senile president is still leagues better than a N@zi president.
It took 60 million years for nature to develop bacteria that could digest trees. In fact that is where coal comes from
This seems badly worded to me. The fact is that 300 million years ago, the bacteria and fungi that today help break down dead trees, didn't exist. As a result, dead trees didn't decompose but became coal due to being buried and exposed to millions of years of heat and pressure.
How many million years will it take nature to develop bacteria that can digest a McRib sandwich?
That there was a molasses flood in Boston in 1919 that was 25 feet high and killed 21 people.
I remember reading about beer flood in England when a fermentation tank burst. People died from alcohol poisoning. I'm not sure if it's true, but it always makes me think of this joke: Kelly Fitzgerald was late getting home from his job at the brewery one night and his wife was worried. He was supposed to be home at 5pm, and it was 9pm when she heard a knock at the door . When she opened the door it was the brewery owner. The owner said " Kelly had an accident at work, he fell into one of the fermentation vats, and now he is at St Peter's gate, I'm so sorry" His wife cried and said: "I hope he didn't die in pain" The owner replied: "I doubt it, he got out 4 times to take a p**s"
Sometimes I hear about the way people die and I'm like, I managed to survive my whole life, through really crazy stuff, and I ended up dying by molasses. I kind of wish I'd just died earlier, honestly, and saved myself the tough life. Because that sh!t is embarrassing. The guy above who survived fall over niagra falls and ended up dying by slipping on an orange peel. Who authorized that, seriously.
They say under certain conditions you can still faintly smell the scent of molasses to this day.
I learned about this! Kids would go up to the tanks to eat the leaking molasses, and when brought up to whoever was in charge that the tank was leaking, they simply had the tanks painted brown so you couldn't see it.
The molasses had been heated to allow it flow better for easier pumping.
Load More Replies...Ok... 25 feet high sounds impressive. But what was the width and length? If that molasses "flood" was 25 feet high by 1 inch wide and 1 inch long then we would need more context. Like why wouldn't the 21 people simply take 1 step to the side?
If I’m remembering right whole streets were flooded and buildings were damaged, it was a big mess.
Load More Replies...I read about this not too long ago. It presents as humorous but the details are fairly horrific.
There was a convent of French nuns that just began meowing one day for no particular reason.
Until the local authorities threatened to whip them if they didn't cut it out.
Load More Replies...I don't see what the big deal is. My coworkers and I do this all the time. Honestly, I think the fact we work at a vet clinic doesn't even play into the fact that we meow. 😳
The last execution by guillotine was in the 70s
I feel like method of execution is determined more for the sensitivity of the people not being executed. Guillotine supposed to be 'barbaric' but in reality is probably painless or close to. Quick - catastrophic - fatal. Body goes into shock (I assume) and dead before it figures out what happened. I kind of don't get the current problems with injections. Just put them under like for an operation - then take them deeper. I've had my intestines removed from my body (temporarily of course) and never felt a thing. Not speaking in favor of execution. Just saying the modern methods seem weird to me.
Their problem is that many drug companies refuse to deliver medications that are to be used in executions, so states that practice death penalty have to work with what they can get their hands on and resort to increasingly weird cocktails of medications
Load More Replies...Barbaric to watch, but unexpectedly humane to be in. It's the consensus today that the person will feel nothing. As for lethal injection, it is really peaceful to watch, but can be really bad to be in, if done in a sloppy way, as it is way more often than it should. We are not even absolutely sure on how full anesthesia works for Crist sake, the human body is not that simple, so maybe the guillotine is a good thing. Or just stop killing people, and build a good system of punishment and rehabilitation without resentment, that would work too.
Death penalty was only abolished in France in 1981, when Socialist François Mitterrand was elected as President. Until then, guillotine was the legal means of execution. Horrible way, certainly... but is there an acceptable one?
The only horrible part is the time leading up to the act. The part about removing your head from your body is easy. That goes for every other common method of execution as well.
Load More Replies...Interestingly enough, the blade is tapered, not sharpened. The weight of it was enough to do the job.
Yes, the oligarchs have gotten quite uppity since then, might be time to bring it back..
Load More Replies..."The use of beheading machines in Europe long predates such use during the French Revolution in 1792. The Halifax Gibbet : was an early guillotine used in the town of Halifax, West Yorkshire, England. Estimated to have been installed during the 16th century, it was used as an alternative to beheading by axe or sword. The Maiden : is an early form of guillotine, or gibbet, that was used between the 16th and 18th centuries as a means of execution in Edinburgh, Scotland. The device was introduced in 1564 during the reign of Mary Queen of Scots, and was last used in 1716. It long predates the use of the guillotine during the French Revolution."
Load More Replies..."The European Convention on Human Rights was adopted in 1950, but some countries took many years to ratify it. The United Kingdom retained the death penalty for high treason until 1998. Capital punishment has been completely abolished in all European countries except for Belarus and Russia. In 2012, Latvia became the last EU member state to abolish capital punishment in wartime. Except for Belarus, which, most recently, carried out one execution in 2021, the last execution occurred in Ukraine in 1997. The European Union has long since been opposed to the death penalty, supporting the European Convention, and its 2000 Charter of Fundamental Rights included an absolute ban on the death penalty in all circumstances. The Charter has been made legally binding by the Treaty of Lisbon as it was fully ratified and became effective on 1 December 2009."
"The primary means of execution in the U.S. have been hanging, electrocution, the gas chamber, firing squad, and lethal injection. The Supreme Court has never found a method of execution to be unconstitutional, though some methods have been declared unconstitutional by state courts". SOURCE : DEATH PENALTY INFORMATION CENTER
for those who think the guillotine was barbaric READ ! : " Mary, Queen of Scots : Mary was not beheaded with a single strike. The first blow missed her neck and struck the back of her head. The second blow severed the neck, except for a small bit of sinew, which the executioner cut through using the axe. Afterwards, he held her head aloft and declared "God save the Queen." mary-63df7...c9a224.jpg
The last "official" civil war widow died in 2020.
if she was born the last day of the war, that would have still made her 152yrs old...
She was married as a girl to a Civil War veteran so she could collect his pension after he died.
Load More Replies...One I can think of, Helen Dortch Longstreet April 20, 1863 – May 3, 1962 - married General James Longstreet in 1897 at age 34 (he was 76) and was widowed in 1904.
It’s estimated between 70-85 million people died in WW2. It’s been estimated 300-500 million people died of smallpox in the 20th century alone.
You know what stopped smallpox? A vaccine. Some people are fortunate to be alive and have the choice not to take them.
A vaccine stopped polio too, until people who refused to vaccinate thier children from a disease that "didn't exist anymore" and, whaddaya know, it's back.
Load More Replies...Stuff like this is why I roll my eyes at the folks who think all vaccines are bad/evil. When I was a boy it was more common to see "Timmy" type people crippled from polio. A childhood friend I played with a lot was one of them. Now days it is out of sight / out of mind like something that didn't happen.
Unfortunately most of us are too young to know how bad these illnesses were. They think they're no big deal, that their child won't get it or die from it.
Load More Replies...Lets add a bit of context here. 85 million people over 6 years, that's an average of just over 14 million people a year due to war. The Smallpox estimation is actually 300 million from 1900 to 1977 when the global vaccine campaign ended it. So 300 million over 77 years is around 3.8 million a year. The 500 million figure is for the 100 years prior to the vaccine rollout, so that's around an average of 5 million a year. Fun fact, there are records of smallpox existing in ancient Egyptian mummies! Not so fun a fact, WWII was definitely more deadly.
It's been estimated at least 3 million people died of covid in 2020. It's a lot less now, mostly due to vaccines. Imagine 2020 lasting for 77 years.
Load More Replies...While WWII also happened in the 20th century! So there were ppl dying from smallpox during the war too.
Ok… but WWII didn’t last an entire century so you can’t compare those numbers directly.
With any new vaccine, a certain portion of people will have a reaction to it. I play the odds and get the shots. I even volunteered to test one version of the covid shots.
That's, kind of freaky. That's so many people. Without wars and diseases, even just the very biggest ones, what eould over-population be like now?
Impossible to calculate how many people are alive today because their parents or grandparents weren't anti-vaccine but instead were grateful that their children were protected from smallpox, mumps, measles, German measles, Spanish flu and polio. FYI the first polio vaccine was developed by Dr. Jonas Salk, whose place in heaven is assureds because he declined to patent it, thus making it available to many more children a lower cost.
WW1 killed 16 million people, the Spanish Flu, at the end of the war (1918) killed around 50 million.
The Universe is unfathomably young at 13.8 billion years old. Humanity is actually very early to the party and there is a good chance we may be one of the first intelligent life forms in the universe if not the first. This chance increases if we find Red Dwarves with habitable planets because unlike Sol, Red Dwarves will last up to 10 trillion years.
On a Universal scale we are right at the birth of our Universe and it could be why we have yet to find evidence of other intelligent life, outside of just sheer size.
You have to wonder if they see us like that spider in the corner of the porch everybody skirts around making sure it doesn't notice them.
Yep. Other lifeforms could could differ immensely in shape, size or time-perception.
Load More Replies...We are the precursor race that all who come after will find. They will see our ruins and our dregs and ask us who did this to us. And we will have to say ourselves.
Intelligence is the weapon of choice, but like all weapons, there is a downside.
Load More Replies...Or, it could be less than a nanosecond old, and we're subjectively experiencing time inside a simulation.
Don't know why you're downvoted, someone needs to google things like Bostrom and Universe is a Simulation Theory.
Load More Replies...If they are watching the GOP they now know there is no intelligent life on earth.
This should be higher. We are also a horrible example of how good life is..
Considering that five mass extinctions in prehistoric times threw back development drastically I think there was (or might have been) time enough for several civilizations to have arisen and fallen.
But how long until the galaxies are so far apart that it becomes impossible to detect them?
I may be wrong but this seems like absolute speculation. We don't know how long the universe will last so it may be in the twilight of it's life and we've just shown up in the final act.
Consider Googling before you comment. The heat death of the universe is predicted to happen in 1.7×10106 years.
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Human spaceflight, laptop computers and mobile phones all pre-date the creation of the vertically aligned roll-aboard suitcase.
And bitc*ing at your husband to finish painting didn't exist until 5 minutes later.
Load More Replies...Laughing here - spent my student years lugging suitcases on and off trains between term times. When I was at Uni, one of my house mates was studying computer science and came home with reams of punch cards. Another classmate was working on very early graphics for her ceramic designs. My only contact with home was from a callbox, my digs had no landline.
But luggage carts (that you put your suitcase on) were common before those things.
It's almost as if we invented important stuff before silly fripperies.
Yes? If I understand wikipedia, the designer produced 100 of the roll-aboard in 1989. The first "true mobile" (wikipedia) laptop was the Osborne 1 (1981). The others before that some time. So atleast I don't see the unbelivable in it :P
I think the unbelievability comes from the fact that laptops, mobiles and spaceflight are all very high-tech, engineering-heavy technologies, whereas a roll-aboard suitcase is just a box with some wheels nailed to it.
Load More Replies...Wheels require a specific set of circumstances. Native Americans understood the concept of the wheel prior to the arrival of Europeans, but only ever applied it to children's toys. Without large draft animals to pull wagons it was easier to just carry things, or drag them on a travois. Especially so, since Native Americans lacked metal tools needed to make precisely fitted wheels and axles.
Load More Replies...some things really should just be obvious but apparently aren't. Amazing.
Fax machines were invented in 1843, well before the telephone.
The concept was patented and an experimental model tested in 1843, though nobody made commercial use of the idea until 1863.
Cleopatra lived closer in time to the iPhone than the construction of the pyramids.
They found Cleopatras Nokia phone in one of the pyramids. It still had charge.
Cleopatra's OnlyFans. "Watch me bathe my a*s in a*s's milk! Only 40 Drachmas" and "Watch me get stabbed from behind by a Roman more times than Caesar, Just 50 Drachma"
President Teddy Roosevelt was shot at point blank and gave his hour plus long speech.
His girth is the reason the bullet didn’t kill him. It lodged in the “extra padding” in his chest. His doctors felt it was safer to leave it instead of remove it, so he carried it there the rest of his life. However, his extra flesh may have saved him from the bullet in 1912, but it contributed to the heart attack that killed him in 1919.
The bullet first had tp pass through the 50-pages (folded over) of the speech he was about to give.
Load More Replies...“ X-rays taken after the campaign event showed the bullet lodged against Roosevelt’s fourth right rib on an upward path to his heart. Fortunately, the projectile had been slowed by his dense overcoat, steel-reinforced eyeglass case and hefty speech squeezed into his inner right jacket pocket.” Source: https://www.history.com/news/shot-in-the-chest-100-years-ago-teddy-roosevelt-kept-on-talking
The last known pneumonic plague outbreak in the United States happened in 1924 in Los Angeles. It was limited to a small area, hence why it was classed as an outbreak. It was thought to be either an STI, due to the patient zero complaining about a fever and a sore groin.
What happened was patient zero was cleaning out his house and found a dead rat. He dispose of it, not knowing it was infected with pneumonic plague.
However, officials soon discovered a strange increase rate of an unusual form of pneumonia. Given the field of Pathology was around, they requested blood samples and discovered the cause was Yersinia pestis.
With the information provided, measures were finally taken to deal with the outbreak, such as Rat extermination including allowing stray cats and dogs to hunt down any rat. In today's money, the cost would be around 5 to 9 million. There was also mass burning, common to control a disease outbreak.
Both I believe. It's the pnuemonic form of the bubonic plague (pnuemonic refers to how it spreads and symptoms there are 3 main kinds)
Load More Replies...In the mediaeval plagues cats and dogs were killed because they were believed to be vectors.
Load More Replies...There was an outbreak in France, too, in 1920, in the slums in the northern suburbs of Paris. To avoid panic, the authorities called it "sickness number 9". It killed 54 people, among the poorest, but thanks to vaccines and modern methods of isolation and disinfection, it didn't spread any further.
We don’t have a Yersinia pestis vaccine. It’s treated with antibiotics.
Load More Replies...they hushed it up and blamed it on chinese immigrants...there is a great american experience episode on it
In 1972, as much as 26 feet of snow fell on small towns in Iran killing 4000 people.
See below for actual pics https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB981GB981&sxsrf=AJOqlzUMTiAtGZ_YgoTQvKYn-Wc0mUs-rg:1674049093309&q=26+foot+snowfall+in+Iran+pictures&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=2BIq0BmpQ3WpHM%252CtnFKRnDV3QtQ6M%252C_%253BIUrYKzsJHB7fdM%252CtnFKRnDV3QtQ6M%252C_%253BQdNM9aIudXjbcM%252COI5l2LSmtVFdoM%252C_%253Bg4QTsnsG9t8c7M%252C6n-lFYol3ZwZ0M%252C_%253BkbZamTRECLX23M%252CKVHLTSHkDyPN2M%252C_%253BE21dqBVw7gW0sM%252Ctwle7K6-WjAcaM%252C_%253BrmE2Z6cqb35RUM%252CjZ4kj2cTui11LM%252C_%253BjeaX0OR-iLN3-M%252C-7kI2m6cnWUBmM%252C_%253BbOU6faqj8iIPGM%252CjRtXvvclV457DM%252C_%253Bppi9-aGeCZKybM%252CNSv7OBPLXmWCvM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kSvQyyKSZSXUEByy3RAM-9EAknHrg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjo-KvsntH8AhWHZsAKHXaMCQcQjJkEegQIDxAC&biw=1920&bih=937&dpr=1
Surprisingly I have never heard of this before. We always used to get a lot of snow, but I have never heard of 26 feet holy s**t. I wonder which towns were impacted. If they were small towns, it was probably because it cut off electricity and water supplies, which would expose the citizens to the cold.
Thank you BP for not paraphrasing! (Though sad news!) (if I have the right english word)
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day. July 4th. On the 50th Anniversary.
John Adams’ last words were, reportedly, “Thomas Jefferson still lives!” unaware that he had died hours before Adams passed.
Wooly Mammoth were alive when the first Egyptian pyramids were built. The cotton gin was a commercial failure for Eli Whitney. During the Siege of Castle Ritter, American and German troops fought together against German SS troops. In WW2, the Italian navy independently broke most of the major powers encryption codes, including their allies codes. They even broke the German enigma code before the British did. Stalin knew about the American nuclear weapons before Truman.
One imagines the Italians found it rather easier to get their hands on an Enigma machine than the Allies did.
"The cotton gin was a commercial failure for Eli Whitney" because it was so simple and easy to copy, and enforcing the patent proved practically and logistically impossible.
Are yousure it was the Wooly mammoth andmotthe Staten Island Pygmy Mammoth? i always find contradictory facts everywhere I look.
Wooly Mammoths survived in an enclave on Wrangel Island until just 4000 years ago. Here's a link to a reviewed scholarly article on the topic: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/radiocarbon/article/radiocarbon-dating-evidence-for-mammoths-on-wrangel-island-arctic-ocean-until-2000-bc1/B24BB69C26D3B36B7A6FC1CB1EE1AAD5
Load More Replies...Everyone talking about the Battle of Castle Itter, but nobody interested in operation Cowboy!
I googled both stories, both are equally fascinating but I agree that Operation Cowboy sounds like a fantastical Disney creation, except that it actually happened! Remarkable and well worth reading up about.
Load More Replies...Why has nobody made a movie about Castle Itter? Jesus, what a story!
There is a song about it though. (Sabaton - The last battle).
Load More Replies...I checked that as it sounded unlikely: "The Germans and Italians were able to crack a few Allied codes during World War II."
Rudy Guiliani passed the bar exam.
Back in the day when he still had ll his marbles. He’d probably use his melting hair dye to doodle d***s or something on it now. The only “bar exam” he can pass now would be him drinking everyone else under the table in an actual bar
Well. . .he was an accomplished prosecutor, no matter what we may think of the guy now.
Didn't he get disbarred (or have his accreditation run out or something), and so as Trump's leading legal counsel was unable to participate in courtroom debate?
Pope Gregory IX declared war on cats. He believed that cats were agents of devil worshippers.
As a result of that, felines nearly went extinct in Europe and the population of rats increased which probably led to the plague
I hope he enjoys getting buried in used cat litter for eternity in Hell. (I don't believe in Hell, but I can still dream.)
Andrew Jackson, while being president, said "John Calhoun, if you secede from my nation, I will secede your head from the rest of your body."
After Andrew Jackson's presidency, he said his biggest regret was not killing John Calhoun. His own vice president. Jackson is truly one of the worst presidents this country has had.
I hope the ancestors of the Cherokee are still tormenting him.
Load More Replies...“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters." not good enough for you? How about "you gotta grab 'em by the pussy."?
"Jerry Ford is so dumb he can't fart and chew gum at the same time." -LBJ Everybody go look up dirty LBJ quotes... the man was FILTHY!
Load More Replies...You have to agree that modern politics would be a lot more interesting if politicians used more colorful insults like this. Didn’t Alexander Hamilton say to Thomas Jefferson that there wasn’t enough words in the English language to describe how badly he wanted to hit him with a chair? Great stuff! Now Alexander H. would have to recant his threat and apologize to chairs, that he meant no harm to the chair community, and violence against chairs is always wrong.
Hitler and Stalin both lived in Vienna in 1913.
And if they both had visited Freud, talking about their problems (Hitlers troubled family-history, his failed art studies, Stalins drinking father etc.) this might have changed the 20th century timeline quite a bit. Maybe an idea for an alternate history novel...
The book " 1913: one year 100 years ago" by german historian Florian Lilles states that they even met at a park they regularly visited.
Quite interesting, although not as enlightening as I hoped it would be... If only my fellow pandas would keep politics out of the comments, it might even have been a pleasant read... *Sigh*...
About to read a book about lemon growing in Italy, with recipes!
Load More Replies...Not as many Deja vus as I was thinking, maybe my memory is going bad.
Quite interesting, although not as enlightening as I hoped it would be... If only my fellow pandas would keep politics out of the comments, it might even have been a pleasant read... *Sigh*...
About to read a book about lemon growing in Italy, with recipes!
Load More Replies...Not as many Deja vus as I was thinking, maybe my memory is going bad.
