While, in theory, childhood is this magical carefree time, where we have a chance to just explore the world and do whatever we want, the fact is that this is just not the case for everyone. Where you were born plays a big part, as well as how much money your family happens to have, but one of the biggest differences might be growing up as a girl, as opposed to a boy.
Someone asked “Women, what do you feel is the hardest part about growing up as a girl?” and female netizens shared their thoughts. So get comfortable as you read through, upvote your favorite posts and be sure to share your own experiences in the comments section below.
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We don't get to be carefree little girls for long due to so many men being goddamn predators.
My 13 year old recently told me she'd just realised how many creepy men exist. (I was 8 when I was sexually harrassed for the first time.) So sad this is still happening.
11 years old. First creeper phone call. Police were involved.
Load More Replies...Often close family members as well. So let's just pretend it never happened because "what would the neighbors think?" right mom?
Who cares what the neighbours think. Uncle Dave can eat s**t and die
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Learning how to deflect unwanted sexual advances from men/relatives from the time you hit puberty.
I shouldn't have started reading this list. The world is an ugly ugly place!
Being hit on at the ripe old age of 16 years and 5 seconds because men are dogs like that.
I unfortunately learned at a VERY young age that my only purpose was for the use of a man, for whatever reason. Family or otherwise, didn't make a difference.
BEFORE puberty. Now, it's 8,9, and 10 year olds. I had my first experience with SM when I was 5. Yes, FIVE years old.
The day you realize that little boys are treated better than you.
I didn't want to be a girl when I was little. I truly hated being a girl. I didn't want to be a boy either. I didn't have gender issues. I had society issues. It took a long time to realize that me being a girl wasn't the problem. The problem was that every successful person we talked about was a man. The other was that little boys could physically assault little girls, and no one cared. The other was that girls had to play nicely and sit nicely because of our clothes.
The realization that being a girl means moving through the world so differently is devastating.
I always shut other similarly minded adults up about these topics. They literally cannot compute what I am saying most of the time and I have to forcefully shut down the topic. This behaviour should not be tolerated.
"I didn't want to be a girl when I was little. I truly hated being a girl. I didn't want to be a boy either. I didn't have gender issues. I had society issues. It took a long time to realize that me being a girl wasn't the problem." This
"Boys will be boys!" And they'll stay that way until someone does something about them.
As a youngster I was told "you can't do that because you're a girl." I did it anyway.
Every time mom put me in some ridiculously itchy dress or skirt I spent all day in pain and being told to 'sit like a lady'. Hated every freakin second of it. Avoided it at all cost. The second I was old enough to fight back I refused to wear anything that wasn't soft and absolutely no skirts.
As an adult, I asked my mother why she dressed me in jeans/tshirts/sweats as a kid. She rolled her eyes and said "because you were always playing in the dirt and the grass. And you had short hair because neither of us wanted to sit still long enough for me to style it." Lol
Got picked on by a boy when we were both about four or five years old and was told "he likes you!" It was all downhill from there until the inevitable SA came along.
Body issues… I learned to hate my body at a very young age. In my mid thirties and I’m still struggling to learn to love myself the way I am.
Middle school boys are f*****g ruthless. The guy who started most of my body image issues doesn’t even remember commenting on my body. For him it was just another play practice and for me it was years of insecurities.
Middle school girls too. Because we think there’s limited room at the top for women, so we tear each other down.
Load More Replies...My mam to my sisters: 'As long as you're healthy and happy, that's all that matters... Don't let anyone tell you that you're not beautiful!'. My Mam to me: 'Would youse put some fecking clothes on!... Chirst you need feeding, boy!... Look at the state of ya!'. Also my mam to me, 'You are the most handsome man in the whole world!'
I started hating my body and thinking of myself as "fat" when I was SEVEN. And no, I wasn't a fat kid. Nor was I ugly; looking back at old pictures all I see now is an adorable little girl with sad eyes.
EARLY SEXUALISATION / HARASSMENT -> lifelong trauma and damage. PARENTIFICATION which stunts childs natural development (for example in case of younger siblings girls are required to look after them). WASTED POTENTIAL (not enough spaces to nourish girls talents in science maths chess and IT).
Edit: oh and a f*****g bonus point if you are a girl growing up in a religious family..
Constantly being told your purpose in life is to birth children and be a good wife. 🤮🤮🤮.
And always being expected to take over the housework cooking etc when mother was sick even tho I was only 8 and I had much older brothers that weren't expected to do anything.
Load More Replies...Older siblings in general are just expected to look out for their younger ones, regardless of gender. Everything else on this one I agree with.
Misogyny is literally written as a base for almost all religion. It isn't a bug, it's a feature.
Load More Replies...The constant mixed signals like the speech in Barbie. Be yourself but not if you’re too loud or girly or not girly or like sex but don’t like it too much. Be smart but able to be dumb at a moment’s notice. Have an opinion but not THAT opinion. Like your body but don’t say it out loud. Always criticize yourself out loud but not just for attention. Be successful but acknowledge all the other people who helped you even if they didn’t. Are you eating that? Again? And that much? Why aren’t you eating? Don’t cry. Cry but only when someone else thinks it’s valid. God you’re a cold b***h don’t you have any emotions? Know everything all the time but don’t let anyone else know that you know. God you’re such a follower. God you’re too independent you know that? I could go on and on and on. It’s exhausting.
I loved that speech! I think most women can relate to that double standard.
That speech was intended to bring focus on the double standard. We are expected to try and please everybody except ourselves
Load More Replies...I saw the movie in the theater, and I'm pretty sure the whole theater clapped when she finished her speech
This is why most women don’t speak up. Because there’s always a man going “WhAt AbOuT me!” Bring on the downvotes. I’ve had this discussion with my husband
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The fear / reality of sexual assault.
Oh and periods.
Not walking after dark. Carrying pepper spray from my job to my car. Never going to the bathroom alone.
Being scared to go anywhere isolated by yourself, camping alone etc because you're even more vulnerable and you know if you were attacked it'd be your fault for not restricting your life and putting yourself in that position.
Load More Replies...Right? Think of how disorganized your average 11 year old is, and throw in a bloody mess with accessories.
Load More Replies...Basically being forced to live in fear. And yes, periods suck too, for some women more than others.
My father once said to me “if you didn’t want to cook and clean, then you shouldn’t have chosen to be born a girl.”
My mistake. .
I'm a grown man, and almost every time I say that I'm unmarried and that I live alone I'm asked who cooks and cleans for me, how come my shirts are well ironed, and do I take my dirty clothes to my mother for cleaning. Is it so strange that a grown It's infuriating. Those are basic life skills needed for purely biological survival.
This was really brought home to me when I had to leave town because my father died. Immediately all the moms of kids my son went to school with started bringing my husband meals. When the reverse occurred, nothing. The funniest thing about it is that my husband is the primary cook in our family!
Load More Replies...You mean i had a choice in the matter? Could i choose to be born rich too?
I grew up loving to cook. But was constantly shamed by my father because boys shouldn't cook. TF?
I cannot fix a car or change a tyre, or see a football match over beer with The Boys, but have you tried my vegan Lebanese-Italian seven courses? And I love being that way,. Pretty much other people do. Everyone can do Manly Stuff with a decent YouTube tutorial, not everyone can cook.
Load More Replies...Intelligence and stupidity are opposite sides of the genes from your parents. You obviously should have chosen different father, too.
Expectation of having children.
I hate feeling like I am worth less because I do not want to put my body and mind through a pregnancy.
I love being a mother. However, I can't wrap my head around the idea that everyone should want to be a parent. It's a personal choice and I really think that every child deserves to be truly wanted.
Reasons why there are so many children in foster care. Some people just aren’t meant to be parents
Load More Replies...I hate to say it but have to. If I were forced to have a baby, I'd find a way to miscarry if I couldn't end it medically. If I couldn't abort, I'd leave it at the hospital. I can't stand kids, don't have the patience or temperament. And absolutely NO doctor will tie my tubes because I'm too young!
Abortion should be an option for every woman. And before pro-lifers get on my a*s, what have you done for children in foster care recently?
Load More Replies...I am 70 and just didn't want kids. Period. Also, I didn't want to have to feel like a possession. I have lived with a good man for 40 years and he's never pushed family or marriage on me. I'm just starting to realize how brave I was to reject the status quo for my generation. I was just being me. I remember at 20, my mom said "Be careful and don't get an infection, you may not be able to GIVE a man children," and me telling her, truly disgusted, "Why on earth would I want to give my life away like that. Do that to my body for some guy and be stuck?" She barely spoke to me for years.
It’s ridiculous, how judgey people are of women who don’t want kids. IT’S THEIR LIFE, IT’S THEIR BUSINESS, IT AFFECTS NO ONE BUT THEM, WHY THE F DO YOU CARE!?
Having an expectation is one thing. Imposing a requirement is another. (Looking at you, USSC).
Not everyone wants to or is meant to be a parent. And that should not affect their worth as a person.
everyone feels worthless when they don't have children. not just women
That women can be their own worst enemy and drag down girls and young women with them. Like supporting/voting for misogynists. Edited to fix a missing word.
I am hoping the women of the US can get their s**t together and vote against the orange Chump. If they think things are bad now, wait until( hopefully not) the dictator gets back in. Ready to relive the 1800s? No? Then don't vote Republican ladies!!!
I am truly horrified at the thought that the trumpster could get back to power. America get your act together.
Women can vote against their best interests just like working people can. And often for the same reasons.
Trump has charmed the pants off the working class. Charmed them into pure footshooting. By his own admission, republicans are an easy lot to play: racists, jingoistic, stupid, and pliable.
Load More Replies...The worst misogynistic bullying I've experienced has ALWAYS come from other women. It's other women who have made nasty remarks about my body, and other women who've gaslit me and told me I should "learn kindness", and other women who have told me that when I complain about men getting an unfair advantage over me in my chosen field that's not true so suck it up. It's awful. If you can't present a united front, you will never get out of the hole you're in, and that goes for any group suffering from active oppression.
I'll second sexual harassment, catcalling, and body issues from a very young age and add not being able to display your emotions and still be taken seriously. I hear so much from men saying that boys aren't able to express their emotions, and while this is true to some extent (the patriarchy hurts everyone!), they can express anger and have it be taken seriously. For women, it's immediately dismissed as hormonal/PMS/stereotypes (e.g., "angry Black woman"). If we express sadness, see above. If we express a legitimate concern (especially medical), it's dismissed as "anxiety". Women/girls aren't allowed to express emotions without societal repercussions any more than men/boys are, it just looks different for us (and can have more disastrous consequences, esp. medical).
Catcalling. Guys, it's simple. Don't say anything to a woman on the street that you wouldn't want a man to say to you in prison.
I had an ex-coworker catcall me. I asked him if his daughter knew he talked to women that way.
Load More Replies...I've had a male staff member spy on me through the security cameras, then call me at my office and try to tell me to do something. I've worked here years longer than he has. He was already under investigation for other c**p. But you know, that's just him being him. I'm overreacting. I didn't even report him because it's a he-said-she-said. I already handled it myself. I just shouldn't complain about it. My venting is always just me overreacting. *rolls eyes*
This reminds me in 8th grade I had done the pacer test and had seen black dots and such. Now I’m not the most athletic- however it was very concerning for me. I went to my teacher for the next class wanting to see the nurse and she dismissed it easily. Fun fact, I found out that month I had a tumor behind my left lung, squeezing it. Yeah. Even women can ignore women’s concerns too and it’s upsetting >:[=
To a large degree, the only emotion men are allowed to express is anger. Maybe that’s part of the reason society is as f****d up as it is
I thought it was more anger is the only emotion some men are comfortable expressing as it's the only emotion that makes them feel powerful, all others show vulnerability. And many men confuse fear with respect so think their anger means people will respect them.
Load More Replies...I was throwing up constantly and generally feeling sick as hell, and was told it was anxiety. It wasn't. It was caffeine poisoning.
I dunno about the anger thing for guys. It's labeled as anger issues or toxic masculinity or abusive now. Teens who punch holes in walls still get made fun of and called out too etc. Even "male karen" gets pulled out now. I'm not sure I've ever seen a dude get mad like that and have it work for him. Even at places like Home Depot which is a dudes place, an angry dude gets the boot going off on someone etc. So I guess what I'm saying is anger doesn't work for anyone that I've seen. In America, the once presidential candidate Howard Dean let out an excited but angry like scream at a rally and it ended his political career in literally one second because it was taken as "too angry". It's also why you never saw Obama get mad cause he knew how they'd take that being who he was even when that big stink happened over that white lady getting in his face and pointing her finger at him. I'm not including maga in this because they have their own set of rules that none of the rest of us follow.
You’re right to a degree, but I will say that, not always, but much of the time anger coming from men is viewed differently than anger coming from women. For instance, if a male boss is hard on his employees, he’s just a guy who’s serious about his work. If a female boss is hard on her employees, she’s a female dog.
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Being sl*tshamed and harrrased, always having to take care of others and being the bigger person, being told you purpose in life is giving birth.
We are sl*ts or frigid, it seems. Especially true when we are under 30, though it never ends its just more targeted as we aren't as ready to protect ourselves at that age.
OMG! Look at her! She's so Pretty! S**t! And she's Single!? Watch out for your man, she'll try to steal him
Being constantly dismissed and therefore denied adequate help, compensation, etc.
most female medical problems being under researched and dismissed by the medical community. having to fight just to be heard
Off topic -- that picture is making my eye twitch. Take off your shoes when you're on the bed!!
I only got my autism diagnosis a couple of years ago, cuz when I was a kid everyone believed that only boys were autistic.
Been there. Two of my girls were diagnosed with adhd when only boys had adhd
Load More Replies...Being expected to be "polite" to everyone - take s**t from everyone, have low standards, accept manchildren as your partner, try to "see the best" in people who wrong you, people please. Being sexualised from infancy. Being treated like an infant in adulthood.
Being expected to be polite to everyone but then men think that just because you’re polite to them you’re obviously attracted to them. 🙄
Usually I'm polite to men when they don't deserve it because I don't know which ones will go bat s**t crazy and get threatening or violent if their egos are slighted. It's not because I like them, it's because I don't trust them. I wish men weren't so much more physically stronger than we are and we could actually physically defend ourselves against them.
Load More Replies...And being given grown up responsibilities in childhood. Any other big sisters here?
Worrying about body image from quite a young age. Am I fat? Am I too fat? Am I fit enough? Am I too muscley? Am I too skinny now? Am I skinny enough? Endless. .
One of the advantages to getting older is that most of us have zero f***s left to give
YES! I wish I could have a fifty year old head on a twenty five year old body, that'd be perfect.
Load More Replies...I was 5'8" at 10 years old and have always been built like a brick wall. I f*****g HATED IT. Even if I weighed 50 pounds, I would not be a size 6. I used to wish that I could trim pieces off of myself so I could be smaller and told I was ugly.
After getting made fun of by my own family member for gaining puberty weight, then getting accused of being anorexic when I lost that weight, I still struggle with my body image. It's a miracle I didn't develop an eating disorder.
Same gurl. I'm a big time foodie and that makes me overthink a lot regarding my body image. I eat and then it's a long period of guilt.
I’m skinny, should I stay skinny? Should I try to gain weight? Will I still look good?
You might be surprised to find out that most boys go through the same thing. Like girls, they worry that they are too fat or too skinny, not muscular enough or too bulky. And like girls, they worry about their WHOLE body. Are those parts supposed to hang like that? Is that part too big, too small. Why the heck do we have to have veins?... And like girls, they feel like they have nobody to talk to about it. This is an issue that is blind to gender, race, religion, or any other factor; But I do find it harder to get boys to open up about it.
Sexual harassment and occasional assault from heterosexual men.
I had some very bad experiences... until I learned how to defend myself.
I got assaulted at college once. When I called the number to report it, I essentially got yelled at. The "man" taking the phone call was pissed that I didn't give a good enough description of the guy and couldn't remember which study room it happened in. I'm sorry, but I'm the type to freeze up when I'm being assaulted. Also, he wouldn't let me keep it anonymous.
And people wonder why women don't report...I'm sorry, and also did that college have ANY training, and did the man have ANY decency?
Load More Replies...Then some a-hole(s) saying it was somehow our fault that we got assaulted/harassed.
Defending yourself doesn't have to be physical. A well.placed comment about how good a dancer they must be because they have such tiny feet works very well. However, if you have seen him throw stuff when pissed, maybe go with you're not my type/sex.
As a girl: Being thrown into a world made and designed for men with no one to help contextualize this properly so I understand better why I'm not actually a huge failure at what I choose to undertake. As a teenager: being taught everything that is dangerous about sex (unwanted pregnancy, STDs...), but not about how to be comfortable with my own sexuality, or how pleasurable sex can be for women, how important it is, and how to achieve this - would have helped me so much more growing up So far for my entire life: Periods. Seriously. Inconvenient. Uncomfortable. Painful. Sometimes can lead to major embarrassment. Can put a damper on: events, vacations, sometimes I even have to adapt what I wear based on the day and flow... F**k tampon commercials trying to make anyone believe women need to live through this by dancing around in a white dress feeling pure bliss.
only being able to fit into certain clothes because of severe pain and bloating :(
I don’t care if I have 3 diapers on, I still won’t wear white when it’s my time of the month
Sitting in a business meeting when you feel the squishy gush of a large clot pass, keeping a straight face and not losing your train of thought all the while HOPING you don't leak. Being a woman is NOT for sissies.
In foster care as a teenager before i left hearing the 'mother' tell her girls if you get pregnant you're out of here, it's your fault blah blah. But when asked about her sons ' it's not his fault if she's stupid enough to let him do it to them'. They let this fool adopt and foster. I got out of there at 17
Best thing I did for myself was birth control pills that stopped my period for 5 whole years!!!
Same, but I still get it 4 times a year. It was set up that way with my doctor and I'll never go without it now
Load More Replies...Blacking out from pain, my mother's response "Oh what are you trying to avoid at school? I had painful periods and I coped so why can't you?"
Noone understanding that you don't really feel good (ie Me: Mom, I feel awful and my period is killing me. Mom: School will take your mind off all of that.)
Being underestimated and questioned while men are seen for potential; I had this incredible self confidence as a kid that was crushed in my teen years that I’ve worked my whole life to find back.
I choose a career that was female led and dominated. Also well paid and respected: nursing.
Can't be that well paid and respected if they're always on strike for better pay and conditions. I don't think any women dominated jobs are well paid.
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For me it was mostly seeing how there were different rules for me than for my brothers, especially in terms of freedom.
Edit to say: I'm kind of baffled with all these replies and grateful to say that my wonderful parents raised me as the tomboy that I was with (almost) no complaints. My comment was addressed at things like going out alone or being out after dark. .
I grew up fairly conservative and my parents worked so hard to made things fair for both their boys and girls. They decided that "If we want to protect the girls by having them in non-revealing swimwear in public, then we're not going to have the boys shirtless." That has always made sense to me. No double standard. If the boys were shirtless, we got bikinis. And if we didn't get bikinis, than the boys were modest too. And yes, this was only when we were young and directly under their care (pre-teen, young teens).
I was told, "Women should do the housework, but a nice man would want to help. Don't let him though because that's your job".
The male equivalent of "tomboy" is "sissy". Tells you a lot right there.
I was told as a teenager that the reason I had a curfew and my brother didn't, is because he wouldn't come home pregnant just because I was the one with a period. It would absolutely have been my fault whether I wanted it to happen or not. My brother BTW, was free to "fornicate" and impregnate as many women as he liked. But, no, that's just boys being boys. Makes me nauseous even typing this.
When I was a senior (church choir, youth group, national honor society, etc) my curfew was 11 pm. My brother (constantly in trouble at school, hung out withthe wrong crowd, etc) was in 6th grade and his curfew was 10:30 pm.
The body shaming started really early for me. I was called fat by everyone from my classmates to my father to my medical providers, then I slimmed down but my breasts grew big and fast so I was mocked for that; my mom started insinuating I was a s**t by the age of about 12. I didn’t even lose my virginity until I was almost 20 because I thought I was a big ugly monster.
It took me so, so long to unpack the trauma of growing up in the early/mid 2000s. Now I’m 34 and just dipping my toes in the water of intentional weight loss after decades of not being able to do it without spiraling into an eating disorder, because I’m edging on high blood pressure and want to be able to go hiking w my friends without being a drag.
Don’t get me started on navigating the minefield of dating hetero men.
The 90's and the 00's were a toxic couple of decades. Just yesterday I was remembering how during soccer tournaments (the european championships just ended) they would fill the commercialbreaks with the "World Championships Lingerie", where, and I s**t you not, it would be just 15 minutes of pretty women in their underwear trying to shoot penalties. It was ... I can't even describe it. Everything about that era (and before that time as well), was about men, and women's appearance.
not diminishing this but the 80's were no better to grow up in
Load More Replies...I was a fat kid and the only time I was teased was by my own mostly thin family. I was bullied at school as a kid but it was never about my weight. I'm a fat adult and I have never had any interpersonal issues due to my weight; only at the doctors office.
Your mom calling you a s**t when you were 12 was probably envy that you were attractive to men and now she had competition from her own daughter for male attention. My mother did the same as soon as my sister and I hit puberty and then fling herself at and show off around any man that came near her. Mothers can be the worst.
Being in foster care and being sexualised and put under a microscope and remarked on from your hair on your head to your toes and I mean literally. I still have a problem showing my feet to anyone. That's how traumatising it can be
LOL. I had the opposite and it was just as bad. I was a skinny guy who took forever and a day to hit puberty and when I did it was totally underwhelming -- I was still skinny and a certain part of me remained almost as small as it was when I was ten. As for dating... let's just say that 99% of women don't seem like us guys who pack less than 3".
I hated my breasts as a teen. They were larger than any of the other women in my family and it felt like all of them were constantly talking about them and pointing them out. I remember one day I had gone out to get a glass of water from the kitchen. My mom and a couple male relatives were there. She started talking to the guys about how bad/ugly the stretch marks on my breasts were, literally trying to poke at them as I walked by. And when I tried to turn away from her she said it was my fault for “showing off” my stretch marks (it was summer, so I was wearing a basic tank top, no different from the ones she wore). I was so embarrassed and my male relatives were clearly uncomfortable. And she still has no idea why I spent all of my time shut away in my bedroom
Finding out what kind of p*rn men like. That our pleasure doesnt matter. That many men m**turbate to women/girls suffering.
This is something that weirded me out. Back when I still thought I was straight I remember buddies sharing porn. It really baffled and kinda frightened me how many of them really, really liked porn where the woman was being degraded. No one controls what kinks they end up with, but seriously, wtf guys?
It’s terrifying, disturbing, and disgusting. Especially when you know they’re starting young. From 12 years old these kids are getting off on the pain and suffering of girls and women.
What's gross is soon many men think women like it rough. I'm guessing they get that from porn and are too stupid to realise it isn't real. Or they just like being rough during sex and pretend women like it so they can avoid taking responsibility for hurting their partners - "every other girl wants it rough, what's wrong with you?". Sick, girls talk and I've never come across any girl/woman who likes to be hurt, bitten hard or bruised during sex.
Load More Replies...I don't know that it can be totally separated. Your online choices DO, in fact, affect your real-life choices. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you fantasize about rape but that does not at all affect how you view intimate relationships in in real life???
Load More Replies...I simply cannot respect men or women who watch porn. I know that goes against the grain in this society, but that's where I am. Voyeurism is not for me.And no, I'm not 'sexually repressed'.
That's not my understanding of it from past talks with the lads! I'm sure there might be a few that watch that kind of stuff, but then porn is about fantasy. IIRC, Garry likes women pleasing themselves. Dave I, liked MMF threesomes. Dave II, admitted he liked watching pegging (but said he would never try it). Paul didn't care as long as there was boobs and the woman spoke really dirty. Personally, I find it all boring.
I've accidentally walked in on my husband a few times watching porn, (I know he sometimes watches the stuff. Usually when I'm on my period. We talk openly about it). I'm very glad he's more into the "normal" stuff, lol. Some of the women looked older than me!
The patriarchy. Sexism, misogyny, double-standards, assault, predatory men, etc etc etc.
A comment for ByeFelcia since they’re downvoted and I can’t directly reply… maybe listen to what women are saying instead of just dismissing them. If everything men do gives them the ick then maybe do better.
Abuse. You pick the type.
According to my family the abuse didn't count because I was a girl. Sexual abuse, must have asked for it. Physical abuse, you deserve it because you're too sensitive. Verbal abuse, mental and emotional abuse.... the list goes on. That was just my family.
I was lucky and didn’t have a lot of the terrible experiences that girls and women have, but for me it was the double standard. My brother can do no wrong and he was able to do more because he was a boy and “it’s different for girls”.
And girls being taught to make rooms for the boys. 'they are later developed than girls. Bear with them.' why not teach the boys to actually look up to smart girls?
As a mother to a son I hate that. You are not only asking girls to make allowances for inappropriate behavior, you are also assuming boys are incapable of controlling themselves. Just demeaning all the way around.
Load More Replies...I am so grateful that my parents were willing to hear us out when things were different. They would explain it, and then defend us. None of this "buck up darling" attitude, it was more of a "listen brother, she's going through hormone stuff, respect that she doesn't want to play football today."
My Adopted brother is the absolute Golden Child and can do no wrong despite causing my parents nothing but heartache for years. I have never been in trouble and yet somehow in my mothers eyes I am ALWAYS in the wrong
I'm older than y'all. Girls had to wear dresses. Boys could wear pants/jeans. Girls had to help with housework while boys didn't. Boys could play king on the mountain on our school's huge snow pile but girls couldn't. Boys could earn money helping on other farms. Girls couldn't. Girls couldn't play drums in band - they were for the boys. Girls had to take home-ec classes (cooking and sewing) while boys took shop classes (wood, automotive, welding, etc.) Life sucked as a girl.
The tragedy of womanhood. As a child you believe you have an inate worth as a person, equal to everyone else. And then the slow horror creeps in through the years as it dawns on you that society does not value you as a person and your only worth is in your body and how you can benefit the men around you.
Requirements and judgement.
My mistakes are taken more aggressively and poorly than dudes.
I need you to explain this to me, I cant figure out what you mean?
Load More Replies...The never ending judgment and instance on compliance. I'm a women bringing up girls, it would be so very easy to teach them to be submissive and compliant but f**k easy. My girls rebel, they will push gender norms, they won't just accept "you need to..." , they are their own people, they may fall down but I'll pick them up,they will want to comply and fit in and I'll support them to be themselves. Bringing up girls harder than being one.
I raised three daughters alone. Hard work, but I have three beautiful daughters who are all working, happy, individual and independent! I couldn't ask for more. Love those girls!!!
Some days it feels like I gave birth to my three best friends. Love my girls so much
Load More Replies...Trying to teach someone that so desperately wants to fit in with everyone else, to be themselves, is one of the hardest tasks imaginable.
The double standards that come from other women are way worse than the patriarchy. It is like every single living women hates when any female shows interested in motherhood, like it was the worst choice for a women. I'm tired of being seen as stu.pid and mediocre just because I don't use my career degree (which i never liked or fulfilled me) and find genuine happiness in being a women and a staying at home parent. And since I never had any issues with period (which leaded me to some inconveniences because I never realize im bleeding until accident has long happened) women believe I'm just faking, because periods ar the female curse, right? I kinda got used at male different standards, but women's judgement and criticism over different choices is way worse
Being out late at night (the double standard is extremely icky) and feeling unsafe. Being told that you shouldn't travel alone...
it is but it shouldn't just be women who take responsibility for Women's safety
Load More Replies...The last time I walked home alone was probably the mid eighties. Haven’t done it since. Admittedly I now live in the country so it’s a weeny bit far…
All humans should not travel alone. As for the after dark thing... Yeh it sux I know how that feels too. Chased by crazed drunk ppl a few times.
Wondering what do with your f**kability. On the one hand, you learn early on that f**kability = money, power, influence (M P I). On the other hand, you learn that achieving M P I through f**kability is somehow more vulgar than every other way people get money, power and influence.
Being a wage-stealing s**tbag, just barely to the right side of a plantation owner = WOOHOO!, Elect that man to be the president and invite him to speak at Harvard's graduation!!! Be a millionaire sex worker, and it's "eww... she so stupid and all she did was a sex tape." Mmm kay.
The same mother who shames you for getting fat and "unf**kable" in her eyes is the same one that will shame you for expressing any form of your sexuality. Am I supposed to f**kable or not? Am I supposed to want to be f**kable or not? Am I supposed to use f**kability as a means to M P I or not? Am I supposed to have a say in my f**kability at all? What if I don't give a flying rat's a*s about my f**kability? Getting older makes some of the answers more clear but not always.
The language and tone toward sexuality here is disturbing. I think therapy is needed. I have never based anything in my life on being fu.k.able it's crazy.
I think OP is talking about the brutal nature of societies double standards towards women and girls. You seem more shocked by her use of the word f*ckability rather than the lived experience by which women and girls are constantly judged by their perceived f*ckability - the harshness of the word doesn't even come close to expressing the brutality of the system that constantly objectifies women yet punishes us if we lean into that same objectification to gain M P I.
Load More Replies...This is a general sex work stigma it happens to be a woman oriented job...This applies to the few male sex workers too... just recently a guy had his OF exposed... walked out to literally take his own life and was saved by friends. Women deal with this bs at a higher percentage due to the job demographic. I say who cares what a person does as long as they love it and can live off it... Plus like all jobs only the gifted get big and get millions. A good body alone is not enough.
Very true. And a male pornstar is a god.. but a female? S.l.u.t... women get criticized even when they talk about their own sexuality in their own words... What's wrong about that?
Taught to be the one who concedes, says “sorry”, and has to be tactful with words and actions. I look at men with artificially inflated egos and simply think there’s gotta be a better way to parent both boys and girls to help them reach potential but not be ignorant of shortcomings.
Girls tend to doubt their skills and not take risks in opportunities because they think that they aren’t qualified. Boys tend to say… I don’t meet those requirements but I’m still going to go for it. (Again it’s a generalization that I saw in my own experiences and as a teacher).
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Being sexualized before I understood sexuality. And the all consuming the reality that no matter what I did or what I was, I would never be correct. We are either s**t shamed or called prudes. We are either too thin or need to lose weight. We either wear too much makeup or not enough. It's never ending.
You're objectified from a very young age. People were commenting on my breast size from pretty much the moment they showed up. They've always been small, and I had friends who had full D cups by 14. Seeing the different ways we were treated by our peers and even adults was sickening. They openly commented on our bodies, no shame, and in my case it was always teasing me for not being womanly enough in f*****g middle school. I was so resentful of my body and I didn't even know why. Meanwhile my friends with larger boobs were getting harassed and preyed on and they interpreted the attention as positive, but even when they'd show me texts and all the sexual things that boys were sending them, egging them on to perform sexual favors, or send nude photos, we naturally felt disgusted but we thought that was somehow the wrong reaction. We just thought it was normal, so we tolerated it, and in a twisted way I wanted the sexual harassment more than the bullying. It's f****d up. This world is f****d up to little girls.
I'm so glad I spent all of middle school not in a public school... I had gotten DD by like 14-15, but thankfully never received any comments on them
Living with the reality that your natural predator are men.
I do understand what they mean, like when you're a female and just going for a walk for example, we have to be constantly aware of our surroundings, is that a man coming towards me in the park? Has that car gone past me before? Are they just cat-calling or are they going to come over to me? We pretty much are on the lookout and wary of men, even on a subconcious level, I'm not saying all men are like that but it's what we worry about, they're what can randomly attack/kill us, it's not bears or wolves.
Load More Replies...Spending all my summers cleaning and watching my younger brother. Then when I started working I'd have to spend hours cleaning after work. Being expected to be an adult when I was 12. None of my possessions were really mine. If my brother, mom, or dad wanted something of mine they just took it. Not having my birthday celebrated for 20+ years because my parents couldn't pretend to care about me for an hour a day once a year. Being forced to put others wants/needs above mine. Being forced to clean when I was sick because having a clean house was more important than my recovery from the flu, pneumonia, etc. Having my health neglected because they thought I was faking it. Basically I wasn't seen as a human, but something to my parents live easier.
Being shamed for stupid s**t. i was made fun of (by my best friends) in 9th grade for not wearing tampons. i was embarrassed at a sleepover in 8th grade when we were talking about shaving downstairs and i was confused about it so they were telling me i must smell bad down there. i was made fun of for being a virgin in that condescending “it’s ok” way. because i was so f****d up from being made fun of for it, i lied to people i met after high school about STUPID s**t like being a virgin. i forced myself to use tampons for a few years and i eventually stopped bc my periods were too heavy and honestly they were just uncomfortable. so is a pad, but i never had the fear of it getting lost lol. some years after high school, i start talking to my ex best friend again and at twenty f*****g four i was still being made fun of for wearing tampons being told i need to grow up. that stuff is already embarrassing as f**k and for your best friends to shame you is worse. i’m 30 and haven’t talked to them in years. Edit to add: body shaming. I was the fat friend to my 2 very pretty& skinny porcelain skin friends. I definitely was treated differently and will be teaching my son to not be a f*****g douche.
People constantly push that you are basically over-the-hill very early in life, whereas men never lose their sex appeal. The logic being that women have prime reproductive years, so youth equals extra sex appeal. Meanwhile, even though men can continue to get women pregnant later in life, their sperm quality also drops. Older fathers also contribute to genetic issues, but this is NEVER addressed for the whole youth=reproduction=beauty argument. It is also a hilariously awful argument because I'm sure the same misogynists who push this wouldn't turn down an infertile supermodel. Women are basically just cattle to be picked, but somehow it's men going on shooting sprees saying it's unfair for them this isn't still 100% the case. We literally live in a world where billions of people see it as unfair that women don't exist to be sex and/or slaves to men.
Never being allowed to fail/be bad at anything without it being blamed on my gender.
Yes! Also, we have to stop using "...like a girl" as a simile for doing something in an inferior way.
Men's competence is accepted by benefit of the doubt - women have to work twice as hard to be considered half as good - fortunately, that's not difficult😉
Danger can be everywhere around the corner. I remember everyone telling girls how they have to me extra conscious. Always getting tipps how to protect myself. I grew up in a safe country but it was an issue. I know you have to be careful but do you know how tiring it is. It makes me anxious and i am 31 now. Always being on my best behavior. Lashing out or having a meltdown was a big no no in my family. I couldn't believe when I saw a girl having a meltdown and her family supporting her (consoling her, giving her space, being understanding). My parents would have hit my or something if i had a meltdown.
Living in a world designed to benefit the opposite sex.
More like designed to benefit the opposite sex's stereotype. Boys who aren't tough, assertive, or leaders, who don't enjoy sports, aren't interested in competition, and prefer to be surrounded by girls, are constantly bullied from day one. I'm not saying that it's the same experience as being a girl, but gender stereotypes hurt everyone who doesn't fit them well enough.
Yep - I'm familiar with some of that. In middle school, I was small and emotionally immature compared to my peers (and didn't really catch up until midway through high school). I had a bully who made 7th grade gym terrifying. I was not athletic and, again, small (through no fault or failure on my part), and the cool n' sporty kids would harass me incessantly for not being good at basketball or whatever.
Load More Replies...Being sexualized for as long as I can remember. From being told to cover up from the time I was 4 to being catcalled for the first time when I was 11 to being flat out sexually harassed in high school. Also my appearance being such a huge deal, especially how much I weighed. Boys who had a few extra pounds were "big and strong", girls who had a few extra pounds were told they could be pretty if they just lost some weight.
The first thing that popped in to my mind was simply the things I wanted to do. Girls don't box Girls don't play base ball Girls dont do karate Even when I showed interest in music, my dad said things like, "maybe you could be Mick Jagger's back up singer." It was like they had this real small idea in their head of what I could do/was capable of before I was even a whole person.
My father must have seen me as only a certain image he thought I should be (for example, a wife), because I once told him I wanted to be a musician, so I wouldn't have time to get married, then he'd just tell me I'd marry a fellow musician.
And then men wonder why we grow up with a "I'll prove you wrong" attitude. Darling, it's because my cousin said I couldn't be good at baseball when I was 12 because I'm a girl. Watch me.
Definitely having body image and the ideal norms of society I started looking at myself and compared myself to my peers at a very young age. I was probably 6-7 years old. And here I am at 25 still trying to overcome it. …..
Men.
Oh, it is an argument, just a very... er... shortened one. Fathers not wanting daughters. Fathers not wanting to be fathers. Boys lifting your skirt and pulling your ponytails. Boys and men using "like a girl" as a derogatory joke. Men behaving in the ways that openly and clearly show that you're only a woman to them, not a person. Men saying "she deserves it" and abusing their girlfriends/wives. But yeah, sure, not all men. Just some men. Quite a lot of men, actually. Too many men, if you ask me.
Load More Replies...Growing up hating women (and myself as a girl) because of the not to subtle ways it’s infused in our society. I only just recently, at 40 years old, started listening to women singers and loving it!! You really have to try and peel back the layers of patriarchy to understand how freaking amazing women really are! We’ve been here all along kicking a*s in the background.
And every girl goes through an 'I'm not like the other girls'-phase. What we really meant is we're not that two-dimensional caricature of a lesser human who's only interested in makeup, fashion and how to get or a boyfriend (cue more stereotypes), but a real human being with character, needs and talents
For me it was knowing that no matter how amazing I was, no matter if my accomplishments were objectively far greater, I would always always always be second pick for any job or award to a mediocre male candidate.
That's why I'm for a mandatory women's quota. F**k the men who wail "but she only got the job because she's a woman" "the jobs should have gone to men, because they're obviously more qualified or why else did you think only men got those jobs in the past?". If you won't let us in, we'll just have to force our way in... again
Apart from psychical danger, being respected when I dissented. People never listen when you’re a girl. And you can’t say “I told you so” after they messed up.
You really oughtn't say "I told you so" after someone messes up regardless of sex/gender because it's rude. At least, that's what I was taught.
Realizing that no one will be there for you when you need them. The only person you can depend on is yourself. .
Men experience this just as often as women. We just don't talk about it. Sad but true.
It's true. But this article is about women and girls experiences. We should be allowed to say what we need to say without having to take men into consideration
Load More Replies...Insecurity ab your body. beauty is so pedistalized and 99% of the time dressing pretty, doing makeup, getting nails done just brings attention of people you don’t want it from in my experience. it’s very rare that there’s a guy i like and even then i don’t feel very *pretty* or special when someone DOES tell me i’m beautiful or whatever from a lot of guys it feels sexually charged or somehow off.
Another double standard - a man's "No" and a woman's "No" are not treated equally. And this is true even outside of sexual invitation.
For me the worst part was my father. He saw all girls and women as sex objects, including his own daughter. To the point that he basically forced me to pretend to be male just so he wouldn't molest me nightly. (It's complicated; I was born intersex, and my body was entirely capable of being made either male or female as it started out a unique mix of both. Never did I identify with the male part of that divide, but with a father like that, it was the safest choice. Thankfully he's long gone from my life and I can actually live as the woman I am instead of the man he wanted me to play at being.)
I'm so glad you are free now, Sky. May you receive lots of blessings and good vibes!
Load More Replies...It's a shame how many people on this list suffer from body image issues and the inability to voice their own opinions comfortably. We really gotta step up as a society and stop objectifying people, it's been overdue since ever and nobody benefits from it. Not even the men, who get driven into all sorts of different toxic stereotypes.
The overriding theme I noticed was sexual assault and predation.
Load More Replies...“He’s just doing (annoying / painful / embarrassing / abusive thing) because he LIKES you!” Subtext: “So you should be grateful and flattered and shut up and stop expecting the people whose job it is to protect you to do anything at all to help you. Oh, and don’t defend yourself either. You’re overreacting to ‘being teased’ and hitting people is unladylike.”
I've made a comment on a post and i just wanted to make it clear. This is a post about women and girls and what we face from birth. When a man chimes in with 'well it happens to men too' we are not saying it doesn't. But the fact you are saying that and not allowing women their space to just think about themselves for once, to think about us and what we go through without having to take on board someone else's problem or have our issues or fears shared or halved with men. Let us have a minute dammit!
I'm surprised no one mentions how pain in women is dismissed whereas pain in men is taken seriously and medical investigations and treatment options are discussed. Women get told 'it's all in your head' that we're anxious, that we have to make do with over the counter medications. The same with medical procedures. the fitting of a coil is often done without pain relief and it is incredibly painful. Yet when men go through a procedure they get taken much more seriously when they say they're in pain.
There's an epidemic of violence against women all around the world, but there's also a much quieter epidemic of contempt, disrespect, and scorn. I really wish we could live in a world where ALL people can be free, and equal, at peace with themselves and others. Sure, it might be impossible, but it's not impossible to TRY, and not impossible to improve things. Sincerely, we NEED to do better. We've come a long, long way just in my lifetime (look at 80s comedies to see what we thought was funny back then! It's embarrassing!). But we still have so far to go. It's sad and shameful we haven't come further than we have, and worse still that some countries that SHOULD be better, seem to be going BACKWARDS! (and you KNOW who you are!)
Yeah,I know, I live there! Greedy Old Pricks (GOP) want women to live in the 1800s.
Load More Replies...There are still places today that see women and girls as property to be traded like live stock. They have zero rights. Don't forget about them..
I feel like I missed a lot of the trauma shared here growing up. I had good role models, no one doubted me because of my gender, my mom always said, "girls can do anything boys can do AND have babies," I don't remember being s e x u a l i z e d, I haven't been abused or have any memory of being cat called... which makes me wonder...am I ugly? lol.
Na... I had one "minor" SA where I had to demonstrate that I changed my mind mid xxx by force at about 20. Other than that and slight issues with beauty standards (which guys have too) and ignorant car sales guys my gender never played a big negative role. You just got lucky. But I will admit I thought the same sometimes.
Load More Replies...Another double standard - a man's "No" and a woman's "No" are not treated equally. And this is true even outside of sexual invitation.
For me the worst part was my father. He saw all girls and women as sex objects, including his own daughter. To the point that he basically forced me to pretend to be male just so he wouldn't molest me nightly. (It's complicated; I was born intersex, and my body was entirely capable of being made either male or female as it started out a unique mix of both. Never did I identify with the male part of that divide, but with a father like that, it was the safest choice. Thankfully he's long gone from my life and I can actually live as the woman I am instead of the man he wanted me to play at being.)
I'm so glad you are free now, Sky. May you receive lots of blessings and good vibes!
Load More Replies...It's a shame how many people on this list suffer from body image issues and the inability to voice their own opinions comfortably. We really gotta step up as a society and stop objectifying people, it's been overdue since ever and nobody benefits from it. Not even the men, who get driven into all sorts of different toxic stereotypes.
The overriding theme I noticed was sexual assault and predation.
Load More Replies...“He’s just doing (annoying / painful / embarrassing / abusive thing) because he LIKES you!” Subtext: “So you should be grateful and flattered and shut up and stop expecting the people whose job it is to protect you to do anything at all to help you. Oh, and don’t defend yourself either. You’re overreacting to ‘being teased’ and hitting people is unladylike.”
I've made a comment on a post and i just wanted to make it clear. This is a post about women and girls and what we face from birth. When a man chimes in with 'well it happens to men too' we are not saying it doesn't. But the fact you are saying that and not allowing women their space to just think about themselves for once, to think about us and what we go through without having to take on board someone else's problem or have our issues or fears shared or halved with men. Let us have a minute dammit!
I'm surprised no one mentions how pain in women is dismissed whereas pain in men is taken seriously and medical investigations and treatment options are discussed. Women get told 'it's all in your head' that we're anxious, that we have to make do with over the counter medications. The same with medical procedures. the fitting of a coil is often done without pain relief and it is incredibly painful. Yet when men go through a procedure they get taken much more seriously when they say they're in pain.
There's an epidemic of violence against women all around the world, but there's also a much quieter epidemic of contempt, disrespect, and scorn. I really wish we could live in a world where ALL people can be free, and equal, at peace with themselves and others. Sure, it might be impossible, but it's not impossible to TRY, and not impossible to improve things. Sincerely, we NEED to do better. We've come a long, long way just in my lifetime (look at 80s comedies to see what we thought was funny back then! It's embarrassing!). But we still have so far to go. It's sad and shameful we haven't come further than we have, and worse still that some countries that SHOULD be better, seem to be going BACKWARDS! (and you KNOW who you are!)
Yeah,I know, I live there! Greedy Old Pricks (GOP) want women to live in the 1800s.
Load More Replies...There are still places today that see women and girls as property to be traded like live stock. They have zero rights. Don't forget about them..
I feel like I missed a lot of the trauma shared here growing up. I had good role models, no one doubted me because of my gender, my mom always said, "girls can do anything boys can do AND have babies," I don't remember being s e x u a l i z e d, I haven't been abused or have any memory of being cat called... which makes me wonder...am I ugly? lol.
Na... I had one "minor" SA where I had to demonstrate that I changed my mind mid xxx by force at about 20. Other than that and slight issues with beauty standards (which guys have too) and ignorant car sales guys my gender never played a big negative role. You just got lucky. But I will admit I thought the same sometimes.
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