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While, in theory, childhood is this magical carefree time, where we have a chance to just explore the world and do whatever we want, the fact is that this is just not the case for everyone. Where you were born plays a big part, as well as how much money your family happens to have, but one of the biggest differences might be growing up as a girl, as opposed to a boy.
Someone asked “Women, what do you feel is the hardest part about growing up as a girl?” and female netizens shared their thoughts. So get comfortable as you read through, upvote your favorite posts and be sure to share your own experiences in the comments section below.

#1

A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods We don't get to be carefree little girls for long due to so many men being goddamn predators.

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MicrowaveGoddess
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1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The world is unnecessarily cruel to women 💔💔

October
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 13 year old recently told me she'd just realised how many creepy men exist. (I was 8 when I was sexually harrassed for the first time.) So sad this is still happening.

Helena
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

11 years old. First creeper phone call. Police were involved.

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Anna DB
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Often close family members as well. So let's just pretend it never happened because "what would the neighbors think?" right mom?

Colleen Glim
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who cares what the neighbours think. Uncle Dave can eat s**t and die

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Ephemera Image
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

started when I was seven years old.

Whitefox
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was 8 when carefree ended.

Kipper
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every man in my goddam family...from the age of 5. It will never end.

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    #2

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Learning how to deflect unwanted sexual advances from men/relatives from the time you hit puberty.

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    BoredPossum
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I shouldn't have started reading this list. The world is an ugly ugly place!

    October
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The confusing thing is, that as a girl you are brought up to be sweet and agreeable at all times. It is extra hard to fight off unwanted advances when you never learned to say no.

    KatSaidWhat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being hit on at the ripe old age of 16 years and 5 seconds because men are dogs like that.

    John Jameson
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    1 year ago

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    I can tell my son. Women like to make generalizations. You had a bad experience. Granted. So generalize. My mom was a terrible cook. Women are bad cooks.

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    Rebekah Fuentes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I unfortunately learned at a VERY young age that my only purpose was for the use of a man, for whatever reason. Family or otherwise, didn't make a difference.

    Belladonna.dreams
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And do it in a way that won't get you hurt or killed

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F****d up but true...It's sad that society is this way.

    Rae Black
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Um, it's before puberty for a lot of us. Try 5 years old.

    Gale Christensen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BEFORE puberty. Now, it's 8,9, and 10 year olds. I had my first experience with SM when I was 5. Yes, FIVE years old.

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    #3

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods The day you realize that little boys are treated better than you. I didn't want to be a girl when I was little. I truly hated being a girl. I didn't want to be a boy either. I didn't have gender issues. I had society issues. It took a long time to realize that me being a girl wasn't the problem. The problem was that every successful person we talked about was a man. The other was that little boys could physically assault little girls, and no one cared. The other was that girls had to play nicely and sit nicely because of our clothes. The realization that being a girl means moving through the world so differently is devastating.

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    Alvia Vseobecna
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always shut other similarly minded adults up about these topics. They literally cannot compute what I am saying most of the time and I have to forcefully shut down the topic. This behaviour should not be tolerated.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I didn't want to be a girl when I was little. I truly hated being a girl. I didn't want to be a boy either. I didn't have gender issues. I had society issues. It took a long time to realize that me being a girl wasn't the problem." This

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Boys will be boys!" And they'll stay that way until someone does something about them.

    pelemele
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The other was that girls had to play nicely and sit nicely because of our clothes. " : That's why as a child I invented all sorts of reasons not to wear a dress or skirt! Pants are freedom!

    Learner Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a youngster I was told "you can't do that because you're a girl." I did it anyway.

    Niki A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got tired of hearing. "Little girls don't do xyz."

    Helena
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every time mom put me in some ridiculously itchy dress or skirt I spent all day in pain and being told to 'sit like a lady'. Hated every freakin second of it. Avoided it at all cost. The second I was old enough to fight back I refused to wear anything that wasn't soft and absolutely no skirts.

    BookFanatic
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adult, I asked my mother why she dressed me in jeans/tshirts/sweats as a kid. She rolled her eyes and said "because you were always playing in the dirt and the grass. And you had short hair because neither of us wanted to sit still long enough for me to style it." Lol

    Beak Hookage
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Got picked on by a boy when we were both about four or five years old and was told "he likes you!" It was all downhill from there until the inevitable SA came along.

    SAF saf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You might be projecting your personal experiences here. It's hard to deny that some cultures do some to almost worship the little boys in the family while will villainizing the girls.

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    #4

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Body issues… I learned to hate my body at a very young age. In my mid thirties and I’m still struggling to learn to love myself the way I am.

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    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Middle school boys are f*****g ruthless. The guy who started most of my body image issues doesn’t even remember commenting on my body. For him it was just another play practice and for me it was years of insecurities.

    Nikole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Middle school girls too. Because we think there’s limited room at the top for women, so we tear each other down.

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    Aine
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get you. I’ve been told by some family and friends that I’m fat and ugly… as a kid, but also as an adult. I thought I was a lost cause until I found my present day partner. It’s hard to hate yourself when someone loves you just the way you are…

    Donkey boi
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mam to my sisters: 'As long as you're healthy and happy, that's all that matters... Don't let anyone tell you that you're not beautiful!'. My Mam to me: 'Would youse put some fecking clothes on!... Chirst you need feeding, boy!... Look at the state of ya!'. Also my mam to me, 'You are the most handsome man in the whole world!'

    Beak Hookage
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started hating my body and thinking of myself as "fat" when I was SEVEN. And no, I wasn't a fat kid. Nor was I ugly; looking back at old pictures all I see now is an adorable little girl with sad eyes.

    Zaach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a 75yo male and I am fighting that same s**t

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    1 year ago

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    Going to the gym/ working out helps with these problems.

    #5

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods EARLY SEXUALISATION / HARASSMENT -> lifelong trauma and damage. PARENTIFICATION which stunts childs natural development (for example in case of younger siblings girls are required to look after them). WASTED POTENTIAL (not enough spaces to nourish girls talents in science maths chess and IT). Edit: oh and a f*****g bonus point if you are a girl growing up in a religious family.. Constantly being told your purpose in life is to birth children and be a good wife. 🤮🤮🤮.

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    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    AAUW did studies on this and it bears out, puberty for females is a hallmark of the patriarchy changing the focus from their minds to their bodies. It's beyond disgusting. Worse with all the pron addicts, men's threshold for sexualizing women has increased.

    Rebekah Fuentes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. This. A thousand times ALL of this!🤬

    MarvinsMom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having to be your mom's "best friend and therapist" :(

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And always being expected to take over the housework cooking etc when mother was sick even tho I was only 8 and I had much older brothers that weren't expected to do anything.

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    justanotherweirdo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Older siblings in general are just expected to look out for their younger ones, regardless of gender. Everything else on this one I agree with.

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    1 year ago

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    Not all religious families. Just many.

    Helena
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Misogyny is literally written as a base for almost all religion. It isn't a bug, it's a feature.

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    #6

    The constant mixed signals like the speech in Barbie. Be yourself but not if you’re too loud or girly or not girly or like sex but don’t like it too much. Be smart but able to be dumb at a moment’s notice. Have an opinion but not THAT opinion. Like your body but don’t say it out loud. Always criticize yourself out loud but not just for attention. Be successful but acknowledge all the other people who helped you even if they didn’t. Are you eating that? Again? And that much? Why aren’t you eating? Don’t cry. Cry but only when someone else thinks it’s valid. God you’re a cold b***h don’t you have any emotions? Know everything all the time but don’t let anyone else know that you know. God you’re such a follower. God you’re too independent you know that? I could go on and on and on. It’s exhausting.

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    Marianne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I loved that speech! I think most women can relate to that double standard.

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That speech was intended to bring focus on the double standard. We are expected to try and please everybody except ourselves

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    Donkey boi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That wore me out just reading it!

    Kinshenewa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw the movie in the theater, and I'm pretty sure the whole theater clapped when she finished her speech

    Stephanie Barr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of Hilary Clinton's campaign.

    Ephemera Image
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    1 year ago (edited)

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    I think this is true, but also true for boys - there are always societal expectations that we are sometimes forced to meet. They may not be what we personally want, but what we need to do depending on the circumstances. Any of these points could be applied to males.

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why most women don’t speak up. Because there’s always a man going “WhAt AbOuT me!” Bring on the downvotes. I’ve had this discussion with my husband

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    #7

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods The fear / reality of sexual assault. Oh and periods.

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    Lil Miss Hobbit
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not walking after dark. Carrying pepper spray from my job to my car. Never going to the bathroom alone.

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being scared to go anywhere isolated by yourself, camping alone etc because you're even more vulnerable and you know if you were attacked it'd be your fault for not restricting your life and putting yourself in that position.

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    BookFanatic
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, I wish someone would come up with a way to give men periods.

    Judy Reynolds
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "And periods" like it's an afterthought!

    Helena
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right? Think of how disorganized your average 11 year old is, and throw in a bloody mess with accessories.

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    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Basically being forced to live in fear. And yes, periods suck too, for some women more than others.

    #8

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods My father once said to me “if you didn’t want to cook and clean, then you shouldn’t have chosen to be born a girl.” My mistake. .

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    Johnny McFearless
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a grown man, and almost every time I say that I'm unmarried and that I live alone I'm asked who cooks and cleans for me, how come my shirts are well ironed, and do I take my dirty clothes to my mother for cleaning. Is it so strange that a grown It's infuriating. Those are basic life skills needed for purely biological survival.

    BarfyCat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was really brought home to me when I had to leave town because my father died. Immediately all the moms of kids my son went to school with started bringing my husband meals. When the reverse occurred, nothing. The funniest thing about it is that my husband is the primary cook in our family!

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    Anna Ekberg
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean i had a choice in the matter? Could i choose to be born rich too?

    Nina
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, he made you a girl, so thanks a lot...

    Nimitz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I grew up loving to cook. But was constantly shamed by my father because boys shouldn't cook. TF?

    Johnny McFearless
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot fix a car or change a tyre, or see a football match over beer with The Boys, but have you tried my vegan Lebanese-Italian seven courses? And I love being that way,. Pretty much other people do. Everyone can do Manly Stuff with a decent YouTube tutorial, not everyone can cook.

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    BoredWolfe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, sorry, I'll just start over from the character select screen.

    Moon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Must have missed my character creation screen

    Terry Rex
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your father was an idiot. You don't get to choose your sex at birth

    Bob Brooce
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Intelligence and stupidity are opposite sides of the genes from your parents. You obviously should have chosen different father, too.

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wtf? That's the dumbest freakin thing I've ever read.

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    #9

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Expectation of having children. I hate feeling like I am worth less because I do not want to put my body and mind through a pregnancy.

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    Marianne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love being a mother. However, I can't wrap my head around the idea that everyone should want to be a parent. It's a personal choice and I really think that every child deserves to be truly wanted.

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reasons why there are so many children in foster care. Some people just aren’t meant to be parents

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    tori Ohno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate to say it but have to. If I were forced to have a baby, I'd find a way to miscarry if I couldn't end it medically. If I couldn't abort, I'd leave it at the hospital. I can't stand kids, don't have the patience or temperament. And absolutely NO doctor will tie my tubes because I'm too young!

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Abortion should be an option for every woman. And before pro-lifers get on my a*s, what have you done for children in foster care recently?

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    bbfa
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 70 and just didn't want kids. Period. Also, I didn't want to have to feel like a possession. I have lived with a good man for 40 years and he's never pushed family or marriage on me. I'm just starting to realize how brave I was to reject the status quo for my generation. I was just being me. I remember at 20, my mom said "Be careful and don't get an infection, you may not be able to GIVE a man children," and me telling her, truly disgusted, "Why on earth would I want to give my life away like that. Do that to my body for some guy and be stuck?" She barely spoke to me for years.

    justanotherweirdo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s ridiculous, how judgey people are of women who don’t want kids. IT’S THEIR LIFE, IT’S THEIR BUSINESS, IT AFFECTS NO ONE BUT THEM, WHY THE F DO YOU CARE!?

    sturmwesen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One bonus point for the 40 coming up: the questions get less and less

    Tree P
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just tell people to eff off and mind their own business.

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having an expectation is one thing. Imposing a requirement is another. (Looking at you, USSC).

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not everyone wants to or is meant to be a parent. And that should not affect their worth as a person.

    Imran Ibrahim (Ultimatechamp)
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    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    everyone feels worthless when they don't have children. not just women

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    #10

    That women can be their own worst enemy and drag down girls and young women with them. Like supporting/voting for misogynists. Edited to fix a missing word.

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    Tree P
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am hoping the women of the US can get their s**t together and vote against the orange Chump. If they think things are bad now, wait until( hopefully not) the dictator gets back in. Ready to relive the 1800s? No? Then don't vote Republican ladies!!!

    Learner Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am truly horrified at the thought that the trumpster could get back to power. America get your act together.

    Nikole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We’re trying!! Well, some of us are.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women can vote against their best interests just like working people can. And often for the same reasons.

    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trump has charmed the pants off the working class. Charmed them into pure footshooting. By his own admission, republicans are an easy lot to play: racists, jingoistic, stupid, and pliable.

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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah mine was my mother and my aunt. They still try to this day

    Beak Hookage
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The worst misogynistic bullying I've experienced has ALWAYS come from other women. It's other women who have made nasty remarks about my body, and other women who've gaslit me and told me I should "learn kindness", and other women who have told me that when I complain about men getting an unfair advantage over me in my chosen field that's not true so suck it up. It's awful. If you can't present a united front, you will never get out of the hole you're in, and that goes for any group suffering from active oppression.

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    #11

    I'll second sexual harassment, catcalling, and body issues from a very young age and add not being able to display your emotions and still be taken seriously. I hear so much from men saying that boys aren't able to express their emotions, and while this is true to some extent (the patriarchy hurts everyone!), they can express anger and have it be taken seriously. For women, it's immediately dismissed as hormonal/PMS/stereotypes (e.g., "angry Black woman"). If we express sadness, see above. If we express a legitimate concern (especially medical), it's dismissed as "anxiety". Women/girls aren't allowed to express emotions without societal repercussions any more than men/boys are, it just looks different for us (and can have more disastrous consequences, esp. medical).

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Catcalling. Guys, it's simple. Don't say anything to a woman on the street that you wouldn't want a man to say to you in prison.

    BookFanatic
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an ex-coworker catcall me. I asked him if his daughter knew he talked to women that way.

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    Joy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had a male staff member spy on me through the security cameras, then call me at my office and try to tell me to do something. I've worked here years longer than he has. He was already under investigation for other c**p. But you know, that's just him being him. I'm overreacting. I didn't even report him because it's a he-said-she-said. I already handled it myself. I just shouldn't complain about it. My venting is always just me overreacting. *rolls eyes*

    MyWeird “WolvesGoTo” DailyLife
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me in 8th grade I had done the pacer test and had seen black dots and such. Now I’m not the most athletic- however it was very concerning for me. I went to my teacher for the next class wanting to see the nurse and she dismissed it easily. Fun fact, I found out that month I had a tumor behind my left lung, squeezing it. Yeah. Even women can ignore women’s concerns too and it’s upsetting >:[=

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To a large degree, the only emotion men are allowed to express is anger. Maybe that’s part of the reason society is as f****d up as it is

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought it was more anger is the only emotion some men are comfortable expressing as it's the only emotion that makes them feel powerful, all others show vulnerability. And many men confuse fear with respect so think their anger means people will respect them.

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    Beak Hookage
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was throwing up constantly and generally feeling sick as hell, and was told it was anxiety. It wasn't. It was caffeine poisoning.

    Dream
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dunno about the anger thing for guys. It's labeled as anger issues or toxic masculinity or abusive now. Teens who punch holes in walls still get made fun of and called out too etc. Even "male karen" gets pulled out now. I'm not sure I've ever seen a dude get mad like that and have it work for him. Even at places like Home Depot which is a dudes place, an angry dude gets the boot going off on someone etc. So I guess what I'm saying is anger doesn't work for anyone that I've seen. In America, the once presidential candidate Howard Dean let out an excited but angry like scream at a rally and it ended his political career in literally one second because it was taken as "too angry". It's also why you never saw Obama get mad cause he knew how they'd take that being who he was even when that big stink happened over that white lady getting in his face and pointing her finger at him. I'm not including maga in this because they have their own set of rules that none of the rest of us follow.

    justanotherweirdo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re right to a degree, but I will say that, not always, but much of the time anger coming from men is viewed differently than anger coming from women. For instance, if a male boss is hard on his employees, he’s just a guy who’s serious about his work. If a female boss is hard on her employees, she’s a female dog.

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    #12

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Being sl*tshamed and harrrased, always having to take care of others and being the bigger person, being told you purpose in life is giving birth.

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    Lauren Caswell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are sl*ts or frigid, it seems. Especially true when we are under 30, though it never ends its just more targeted as we aren't as ready to protect ourselves at that age.

    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re a s**t if you do and a b***h if you won’t. You can’t win.

    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yup. Women's sexuality made less valuable than a mans. Like bump that.

    Blyss Blyssylb
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG! Look at her! She's so Pretty! S**t! And she's Single!? Watch out for your man, she'll try to steal him

    Eve Mraz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're a sl*t if you have and a prude if you haven't

    #13

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Being constantly dismissed and therefore denied adequate help, compensation, etc.

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    Kerensa Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    most female medical problems being under researched and dismissed by the medical community. having to fight just to be heard

    Lost Penny
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Off topic -- that picture is making my eye twitch. Take off your shoes when you're on the bed!!

    Lace Neil
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I only got my autism diagnosis a couple of years ago, cuz when I was a kid everyone believed that only boys were autistic.

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there. Two of my girls were diagnosed with adhd when only boys had adhd

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    #14

    Being expected to be "polite" to everyone - take s**t from everyone, have low standards, accept manchildren as your partner, try to "see the best" in people who wrong you, people please. Being sexualised from infancy. Being treated like an infant in adulthood.

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    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being expected to be polite to everyone but then men think that just because you’re polite to them you’re obviously attracted to them. 🙄

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Usually I'm polite to men when they don't deserve it because I don't know which ones will go bat s**t crazy and get threatening or violent if their egos are slighted. It's not because I like them, it's because I don't trust them. I wish men weren't so much more physically stronger than we are and we could actually physically defend ourselves against them.

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    Stephanie Barr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And being given grown up responsibilities in childhood. Any other big sisters here?

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    #15

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Worrying about body image from quite a young age. Am I fat? Am I too fat? Am I fit enough? Am I too muscley? Am I too skinny now? Am I skinny enough? Endless. .

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    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the advantages to getting older is that most of us have zero f***s left to give

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES! I wish I could have a fifty year old head on a twenty five year old body, that'd be perfect.

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    Disgruntled Pelican
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was 5'8" at 10 years old and have always been built like a brick wall. I f*****g HATED IT. Even if I weighed 50 pounds, I would not be a size 6. I used to wish that I could trim pieces off of myself so I could be smaller and told I was ugly.

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After getting made fun of by my own family member for gaining puberty weight, then getting accused of being anorexic when I lost that weight, I still struggle with my body image. It's a miracle I didn't develop an eating disorder.

    Lady Lestrange
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same gurl. I'm a big time foodie and that makes me overthink a lot regarding my body image. I eat and then it's a long period of guilt.

    FROGLET
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so damn true it hurts

    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m skinny, should I stay skinny? Should I try to gain weight? Will I still look good?

    Nimitz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Boys get this pretty mercilessly too. The f****d up toxic expectation that every little kid should want to grow up into a perfect male/female body with perfect muscles and/or a thigh-gap. Seriously what the f**k?

    pelemele
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as your weight is not causing health problems, your "good" weight is your weight.

    Donkey boi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You might be surprised to find out that most boys go through the same thing. Like girls, they worry that they are too fat or too skinny, not muscular enough or too bulky. And like girls, they worry about their WHOLE body. Are those parts supposed to hang like that? Is that part too big, too small. Why the heck do we have to have veins?... And like girls, they feel like they have nobody to talk to about it. This is an issue that is blind to gender, race, religion, or any other factor; But I do find it harder to get boys to open up about it.

    #16

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Sexual harassment and occasional assault from heterosexual men.

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    Alvia Vseobecna
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had some very bad experiences... until I learned how to defend myself.

    Jess Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry. I hope you're doing better now.

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    Joy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got assaulted at college once. When I called the number to report it, I essentially got yelled at. The "man" taking the phone call was pissed that I didn't give a good enough description of the guy and couldn't remember which study room it happened in. I'm sorry, but I'm the type to freeze up when I'm being assaulted. Also, he wouldn't let me keep it anonymous.

    Jess Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people wonder why women don't report...I'm sorry, and also did that college have ANY training, and did the man have ANY decency?

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    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then some a-hole(s) saying it was somehow our fault that we got assaulted/harassed.

    BossyHossy1
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Defending yourself doesn't have to be physical. A well.placed comment about how good a dancer they must be because they have such tiny feet works very well. However, if you have seen him throw stuff when pissed, maybe go with you're not my type/sex.

    #17

    As a girl: Being thrown into a world made and designed for men with no one to help contextualize this properly so I understand better why I'm not actually a huge failure at what I choose to undertake. As a teenager: being taught everything that is dangerous about sex (unwanted pregnancy, STDs...), but not about how to be comfortable with my own sexuality, or how pleasurable sex can be for women, how important it is, and how to achieve this - would have helped me so much more growing up So far for my entire life: Periods. Seriously. Inconvenient. Uncomfortable. Painful. Sometimes can lead to major embarrassment. Can put a damper on: events, vacations, sometimes I even have to adapt what I wear based on the day and flow... F**k tampon commercials trying to make anyone believe women need to live through this by dancing around in a white dress feeling pure bliss.

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    Kerensa Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    only being able to fit into certain clothes because of severe pain and bloating :(

    justanotherweirdo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t care if I have 3 diapers on, I still won’t wear white when it’s my time of the month

    lovemy suffolk
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sitting in a business meeting when you feel the squishy gush of a large clot pass, keeping a straight face and not losing your train of thought all the while HOPING you don't leak. Being a woman is NOT for sissies.

    EmAdoresHerKats🇮🇪🇩🇿🇵🇸
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In foster care as a teenager before i left hearing the 'mother' tell her girls if you get pregnant you're out of here, it's your fault blah blah. But when asked about her sons ' it's not his fault if she's stupid enough to let him do it to them'. They let this fool adopt and foster. I got out of there at 17

    MK-C PHD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best thing I did for myself was birth control pills that stopped my period for 5 whole years!!!

    tl gmc
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same, but I still get it 4 times a year. It was set up that way with my doctor and I'll never go without it now

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    Littlemiss
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blacking out from pain, my mother's response "Oh what are you trying to avoid at school? I had painful periods and I coped so why can't you?"

    BossyHossy1
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Noone understanding that you don't really feel good (ie Me: Mom, I feel awful and my period is killing me. Mom: School will take your mind off all of that.)

    Whitefox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I found Menstrual disks about 10 years ago. Life changing!! I had to try a few before I found 1 i realllly liked. But man, what a difference!

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    #18

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Being underestimated and questioned while men are seen for potential; I had this incredible self confidence as a kid that was crushed in my teen years that I’ve worked my whole life to find back.

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    BossyHossy1
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I choose a career that was female led and dominated. Also well paid and respected: nursing.

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't be that well paid and respected if they're always on strike for better pay and conditions. I don't think any women dominated jobs are well paid.

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    #19

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods For me it was mostly seeing how there were different rules for me than for my brothers, especially in terms of freedom. Edit to say: I'm kind of baffled with all these replies and grateful to say that my wonderful parents raised me as the tomboy that I was with (almost) no complaints. My comment was addressed at things like going out alone or being out after dark. .

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    Lil Miss Hobbit
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I grew up fairly conservative and my parents worked so hard to made things fair for both their boys and girls. They decided that "If we want to protect the girls by having them in non-revealing swimwear in public, then we're not going to have the boys shirtless." That has always made sense to me. No double standard. If the boys were shirtless, we got bikinis. And if we didn't get bikinis, than the boys were modest too. And yes, this was only when we were young and directly under their care (pre-teen, young teens).

    Joy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told, "Women should do the housework, but a nice man would want to help. Don't let him though because that's your job".

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The male equivalent of "tomboy" is "sissy". Tells you a lot right there.

    Rebekah Fuentes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told as a teenager that the reason I had a curfew and my brother didn't, is because he wouldn't come home pregnant just because I was the one with a period. It would absolutely have been my fault whether I wanted it to happen or not. My brother BTW, was free to "fornicate" and impregnate as many women as he liked. But, no, that's just boys being boys. Makes me nauseous even typing this.

    BossyHossy1
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was a senior (church choir, youth group, national honor society, etc) my curfew was 11 pm. My brother (constantly in trouble at school, hung out withthe wrong crowd, etc) was in 6th grade and his curfew was 10:30 pm.

    tori Ohno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I couldn't ride my bike to school, but my baby brother could.

    Nojo They/Them
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kid on the right got a Minecraft shirt

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    #20

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods The body shaming started really early for me. I was called fat by everyone from my classmates to my father to my medical providers, then I slimmed down but my breasts grew big and fast so I was mocked for that; my mom started insinuating I was a s**t by the age of about 12. I didn’t even lose my virginity until I was almost 20 because I thought I was a big ugly monster. It took me so, so long to unpack the trauma of growing up in the early/mid 2000s. Now I’m 34 and just dipping my toes in the water of intentional weight loss after decades of not being able to do it without spiraling into an eating disorder, because I’m edging on high blood pressure and want to be able to go hiking w my friends without being a drag. Don’t get me started on navigating the minefield of dating hetero men.

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    Susie Elle
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 90's and the 00's were a toxic couple of decades. Just yesterday I was remembering how during soccer tournaments (the european championships just ended) they would fill the commercialbreaks with the "World Championships Lingerie", where, and I s**t you not, it would be just 15 minutes of pretty women in their underwear trying to shoot penalties. It was ... I can't even describe it. Everything about that era (and before that time as well), was about men, and women's appearance.

    Kerensa Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not diminishing this but the 80's were no better to grow up in

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    Alex Mosby
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a fat kid and the only time I was teased was by my own mostly thin family. I was bullied at school as a kid but it was never about my weight. I'm a fat adult and I have never had any interpersonal issues due to my weight; only at the doctors office.

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your mom calling you a s**t when you were 12 was probably envy that you were attractive to men and now she had competition from her own daughter for male attention. My mother did the same as soon as my sister and I hit puberty and then fling herself at and show off around any man that came near her. Mothers can be the worst.

    EmAdoresHerKats🇮🇪🇩🇿🇵🇸
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being in foster care and being sexualised and put under a microscope and remarked on from your hair on your head to your toes and I mean literally. I still have a problem showing my feet to anyone. That's how traumatising it can be

    Tom Thumb
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LOL. I had the opposite and it was just as bad. I was a skinny guy who took forever and a day to hit puberty and when I did it was totally underwhelming -- I was still skinny and a certain part of me remained almost as small as it was when I was ten. As for dating... let's just say that 99% of women don't seem like us guys who pack less than 3".

    Arya
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hated my breasts as a teen. They were larger than any of the other women in my family and it felt like all of them were constantly talking about them and pointing them out. I remember one day I had gone out to get a glass of water from the kitchen. My mom and a couple male relatives were there. She started talking to the guys about how bad/ugly the stretch marks on my breasts were, literally trying to poke at them as I walked by. And when I tried to turn away from her she said it was my fault for “showing off” my stretch marks (it was summer, so I was wearing a basic tank top, no different from the ones she wore). I was so embarrassed and my male relatives were clearly uncomfortable. And she still has no idea why I spent all of my time shut away in my bedroom

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    #21

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Finding out what kind of p*rn men like. That our pleasure doesnt matter. That many men m**turbate to women/girls suffering.

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    Nimitz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is something that weirded me out. Back when I still thought I was straight I remember buddies sharing porn. It really baffled and kinda frightened me how many of them really, really liked porn where the woman was being degraded. No one controls what kinks they end up with, but seriously, wtf guys?

    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s terrifying, disturbing, and disgusting. Especially when you know they’re starting young. From 12 years old these kids are getting off on the pain and suffering of girls and women.

    Black Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's gross is soon many men think women like it rough. I'm guessing they get that from porn and are too stupid to realise it isn't real. Or they just like being rough during sex and pretend women like it so they can avoid taking responsibility for hurting their partners - "every other girl wants it rough, what's wrong with you?". Sick, girls talk and I've never come across any girl/woman who likes to be hurt, bitten hard or bruised during sex.

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    1 year ago

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    Lil Miss Hobbit
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know that it can be totally separated. Your online choices DO, in fact, affect your real-life choices. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you fantasize about rape but that does not at all affect how you view intimate relationships in in real life???

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    Ephemera Image
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I simply cannot respect men or women who watch porn. I know that goes against the grain in this society, but that's where I am. Voyeurism is not for me.And no, I'm not 'sexually repressed'.

    Donkey boi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not my understanding of it from past talks with the lads! I'm sure there might be a few that watch that kind of stuff, but then porn is about fantasy. IIRC, Garry likes women pleasing themselves. Dave I, liked MMF threesomes. Dave II, admitted he liked watching pegging (but said he would never try it). Paul didn't care as long as there was boobs and the woman spoke really dirty. Personally, I find it all boring.

    Zaach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Porn addictions always puzzled me - if I watch it it is to get the 'job' done; tht does not take all day

    Joy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've accidentally walked in on my husband a few times watching porn, (I know he sometimes watches the stuff. Usually when I'm on my period. We talk openly about it). I'm very glad he's more into the "normal" stuff, lol. Some of the women looked older than me!

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know that...that's really scary and disturbing

    Terry Rex
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are picking the wrong men then sweetie. I enjoy porn as long as it looks like the girl is also enjoying it as she is making it

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    #22

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods The patriarchy. Sexism, misogyny, double-standards, assault, predatory men, etc etc etc.

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    Anna Drever
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A comment for ByeFelcia since they’re downvoted and I can’t directly reply… maybe listen to what women are saying instead of just dismissing them. If everything men do gives them the ick then maybe do better.

    Ouss Ben Aziza
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    I agree with you that the feelings of people need to be respected. Sexim is awful and should not be tolerated. "everything men do gives them the ick then maybe do better." This however to me is toxic and gender war stuff. A literal double standard... Really messes with me. I have a penis. I did not choose that....so I am bad and evil no matter what I do. "Do better" is part of "everything"... So what do I do???? Do I stop being a man. I am legit confused here... Reading this makes me feel iky and I hated it... Thus it is gender war bs and we need to move past it. That is my opinion. I want you to lisen to mine in the same manner I lisen to yours when disgusting redpill misogyny is mentioned... Just some of what you said hits me the same way I presume the red pill hits women....

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    ByeFelicia
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    But everything men do gives you "the ick" ....so..... yeah.

    #23

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods The relentless sexism that puts a clamp on your life and infects everything.

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    #24

    Abuse. You pick the type.

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    Littlemiss
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    According to my family the abuse didn't count because I was a girl. Sexual abuse, must have asked for it. Physical abuse, you deserve it because you're too sensitive. Verbal abuse, mental and emotional abuse.... the list goes on. That was just my family.

    justanotherweirdo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Emotional, physical, sexual… it goes on

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    #25

    I was lucky and didn’t have a lot of the terrible experiences that girls and women have, but for me it was the double standard. My brother can do no wrong and he was able to do more because he was a boy and “it’s different for girls”.

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    VikingAbroad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And girls being taught to make rooms for the boys. 'they are later developed than girls. Bear with them.' why not teach the boys to actually look up to smart girls?

    Ms. Mack
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a mother to a son I hate that. You are not only asking girls to make allowances for inappropriate behavior, you are also assuming boys are incapable of controlling themselves. Just demeaning all the way around.

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    Lil Miss Hobbit
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so grateful that my parents were willing to hear us out when things were different. They would explain it, and then defend us. None of this "buck up darling" attitude, it was more of a "listen brother, she's going through hormone stuff, respect that she doesn't want to play football today."

    Kerensa Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Adopted brother is the absolute Golden Child and can do no wrong despite causing my parents nothing but heartache for years. I have never been in trouble and yet somehow in my mothers eyes I am ALWAYS in the wrong

    Mistletoe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm older than y'all. Girls had to wear dresses. Boys could wear pants/jeans. Girls had to help with housework while boys didn't. Boys could play king on the mountain on our school's huge snow pile but girls couldn't. Boys could earn money helping on other farms. Girls couldn't. Girls couldn't play drums in band - they were for the boys. Girls had to take home-ec classes (cooking and sewing) while boys took shop classes (wood, automotive, welding, etc.) Life sucked as a girl.

    BossyHossy1
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See my comment on #14.

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    #26

    The tragedy of womanhood. As a child you believe you have an inate worth as a person, equal to everyone else. And then the slow horror creeps in through the years as it dawns on you that society does not value you as a person and your only worth is in your body and how you can benefit the men around you.

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    #27

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Requirements and judgement. My mistakes are taken more aggressively and poorly than dudes.

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    ByeFelicia
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    This one goes both ways.

    Purplescales
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I need you to explain this to me, I cant figure out what you mean?

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    #28

    The never ending judgment and instance on compliance. I'm a women bringing up girls, it would be so very easy to teach them to be submissive and compliant but f**k easy. My girls rebel, they will push gender norms, they won't just accept "you need to..." , they are their own people, they may fall down but I'll pick them up,they will want to comply and fit in and I'll support them to be themselves. Bringing up girls harder than being one.

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    Dainty72
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I raised three daughters alone. Hard work, but I have three beautiful daughters who are all working, happy, individual and independent! I couldn't ask for more. Love those girls!!!

    Colleen Glim
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some days it feels like I gave birth to my three best friends. Love my girls so much

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    Donkey boi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trying to teach someone that so desperately wants to fit in with everyone else, to be themselves, is one of the hardest tasks imaginable.

    Magenta Blu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The double standards that come from other women are way worse than the patriarchy. It is like every single living women hates when any female shows interested in motherhood, like it was the worst choice for a women. I'm tired of being seen as stu.pid and mediocre just because I don't use my career degree (which i never liked or fulfilled me) and find genuine happiness in being a women and a staying at home parent. And since I never had any issues with period (which leaded me to some inconveniences because I never realize im bleeding until accident has long happened) women believe I'm just faking, because periods ar the female curse, right? I kinda got used at male different standards, but women's judgement and criticism over different choices is way worse

    Nikole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But women act like that BECAUSE of the patriarchy

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    #29

    Being out late at night (the double standard is extremely icky) and feeling unsafe. Being told that you shouldn't travel alone...

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    Alvia Vseobecna
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand the frustration.. but unfortunatelly it is necessary

    Kerensa Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it is but it shouldn't just be women who take responsibility for Women's safety

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    Anna Drever
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The last time I walked home alone was probably the mid eighties. Haven’t done it since. Admittedly I now live in the country so it’s a weeny bit far…

    Ouss Ben Aziza
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All humans should not travel alone. As for the after dark thing... Yeh it sux I know how that feels too. Chased by crazed drunk ppl a few times.

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    #30

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Wondering what do with your f**kability. On the one hand, you learn early on that f**kability = money, power, influence (M P I). On the other hand, you learn that achieving M P I through f**kability is somehow more vulgar than every other way people get money, power and influence.


    Being a wage-stealing s**tbag, just barely to the right side of a plantation owner = WOOHOO!, Elect that man to be the president and invite him to speak at Harvard's graduation!!! Be a millionaire sex worker, and it's "eww... she so stupid and all she did was a sex tape." Mmm kay.


    The same mother who shames you for getting fat and "unf**kable" in her eyes is the same one that will shame you for expressing any form of your sexuality. Am I supposed to f**kable or not? Am I supposed to want to be f**kable or not? Am I supposed to use f**kability as a means to M P I or not? Am I supposed to have a say in my f**kability at all? What if I don't give a flying rat's a*s about my f**kability? Getting older makes some of the answers more clear but not always.

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    Libstak
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The language and tone toward sexuality here is disturbing. I think therapy is needed. I have never based anything in my life on being fu.k.able it's crazy.

    Jane Jayne Jain Jeign Jein
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think OP is talking about the brutal nature of societies double standards towards women and girls. You seem more shocked by her use of the word f*ckability rather than the lived experience by which women and girls are constantly judged by their perceived f*ckability - the harshness of the word doesn't even come close to expressing the brutality of the system that constantly objectifies women yet punishes us if we lean into that same objectification to gain M P I.

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    Biytemii
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely love the way you put this. It makes sense exactly. Hope you are doing some therapy though I am for all kinds of stuff but that is def the best way I have heard that put in words

    Ouss Ben Aziza
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a general sex work stigma it happens to be a woman oriented job...This applies to the few male sex workers too... just recently a guy had his OF exposed... walked out to literally take his own life and was saved by friends. Women deal with this bs at a higher percentage due to the job demographic. I say who cares what a person does as long as they love it and can live off it... Plus like all jobs only the gifted get big and get millions. A good body alone is not enough.

    Magenta Blu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very true. And a male pornstar is a god.. but a female? S.l.u.t... women get criticized even when they talk about their own sexuality in their own words... What's wrong about that?

    Ms Hays
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All good questions. It’s so confusing. Getting older I can say if I were younger now my choices would be selfishly clear I would do what I chose with the only consideration being my desire. And hella I would use it for whatever I wanted, screw society judgements.

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    #31

    A Man’s World: 30 Double Standards And Expectations That Haunt Women’s Childhoods Taught to be the one who concedes, says “sorry”, and has to be tactful with words and actions. I look at men with artificially inflated egos and simply think there’s gotta be a better way to parent both boys and girls to help them reach potential but not be ignorant of shortcomings. Girls tend to doubt their skills and not take risks in opportunities because they think that they aren’t qualified. Boys tend to say… I don’t meet those requirements but I’m still going to go for it. (Again it’s a generalization that I saw in my own experiences and as a teacher). Edit for grammar.

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    Jill Rhodry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, see it in the workplace all the time.

    #32

    Being sexualized before I understood sexuality. And the all consuming the reality that no matter what I did or what I was, I would never be correct. We are either s**t shamed or called prudes. We are either too thin or need to lose weight. We either wear too much makeup or not enough. It's never ending.

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    #33

    You're objectified from a very young age. People were commenting on my breast size from pretty much the moment they showed up. They've always been small, and I had friends who had full D cups by 14. Seeing the different ways we were treated by our peers and even adults was sickening. They openly commented on our bodies, no shame, and in my case it was always teasing me for not being womanly enough in f*****g middle school. I was so resentful of my body and I didn't even know why. Meanwhile my friends with larger boobs were getting harassed and preyed on and they interpreted the attention as positive, but even when they'd show me texts and all the sexual things that boys were sending them, egging them on to perform sexual favors, or send nude photos, we naturally felt disgusted but we thought that was somehow the wrong reaction. We just thought it was normal, so we tolerated it, and in a twisted way I wanted the sexual harassment more than the bullying. It's f****d up. This world is f****d up to little girls.

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    Biytemii
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this way too much...middle school,raging hormones with small boobs....it did disgusting gly make u want the attention more. I was so messed up....

    Kinshenewa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so glad I spent all of middle school not in a public school... I had gotten DD by like 14-15, but thankfully never received any comments on them

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    #34

    Living with the reality that your natural predator are men.

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    Zedrapazia
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    No, men are NOT the "natural" predators of women. This isn't what a natural predator is, a wolf is a natural predator to a deer, but not humans to humans. Statements like this make the entire rest of the list loose credibility.

    T MB83
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do understand what they mean, like when you're a female and just going for a walk for example, we have to be constantly aware of our surroundings, is that a man coming towards me in the park? Has that car gone past me before? Are they just cat-calling or are they going to come over to me? We pretty much are on the lookout and wary of men, even on a subconcious level, I'm not saying all men are like that but it's what we worry about, they're what can randomly attack/kill us, it's not bears or wolves.

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    #35

    Spending all my summers cleaning and watching my younger brother. Then when I started working I'd have to spend hours cleaning after work. Being expected to be an adult when I was 12. None of my possessions were really mine. If my brother, mom, or dad wanted something of mine they just took it. Not having my birthday celebrated for 20+ years because my parents couldn't pretend to care about me for an hour a day once a year. Being forced to put others wants/needs above mine. Being forced to clean when I was sick because having a clean house was more important than my recovery from the flu, pneumonia, etc. Having my health neglected because they thought I was faking it. Basically I wasn't seen as a human, but something to my parents live easier.

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    Lara Verne
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had similar experiences, although not so bad.

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    #36

    Being shamed for stupid s**t. i was made fun of (by my best friends) in 9th grade for not wearing tampons. i was embarrassed at a sleepover in 8th grade when we were talking about shaving downstairs and i was confused about it so they were telling me i must smell bad down there. i was made fun of for being a virgin in that condescending “it’s ok” way. because i was so f****d up from being made fun of for it, i lied to people i met after high school about STUPID s**t like being a virgin. i forced myself to use tampons for a few years and i eventually stopped bc my periods were too heavy and honestly they were just uncomfortable. so is a pad, but i never had the fear of it getting lost lol. some years after high school, i start talking to my ex best friend again and at twenty f*****g four i was still being made fun of for wearing tampons being told i need to grow up. that stuff is already embarrassing as f**k and for your best friends to shame you is worse. i’m 30 and haven’t talked to them in years. Edit to add: body shaming. I was the fat friend to my 2 very pretty& skinny porcelain skin friends. I definitely was treated differently and will be teaching my son to not be a f*****g douche.

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    #37

    People constantly push that you are basically over-the-hill very early in life, whereas men never lose their sex appeal. The logic being that women have prime reproductive years, so youth equals extra sex appeal. Meanwhile, even though men can continue to get women pregnant later in life, their sperm quality also drops. Older fathers also contribute to genetic issues, but this is NEVER addressed for the whole youth=reproduction=beauty argument. It is also a hilariously awful argument because I'm sure the same misogynists who push this wouldn't turn down an infertile supermodel. Women are basically just cattle to be picked, but somehow it's men going on shooting sprees saying it's unfair for them this isn't still 100% the case. We literally live in a world where billions of people see it as unfair that women don't exist to be sex and/or slaves to men.

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    Tree P
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We will be in the US if the MAGA weirdos get their way. I believe the GOP actually hate women and view us as less than human.

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    #38

    Never being allowed to fail/be bad at anything without it being blamed on my gender.

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    Liklik Snek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! Also, we have to stop using "...like a girl" as a simile for doing something in an inferior way.

    Jill Rhodry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men's competence is accepted by benefit of the doubt - women have to work twice as hard to be considered half as good - fortunately, that's not difficult😉

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    #39

    Danger can be everywhere around the corner. I remember everyone telling girls how they have to me extra conscious. Always getting tipps how to protect myself. I grew up in a safe country but it was an issue. I know you have to be careful but do you know how tiring it is. It makes me anxious and i am 31 now. Always being on my best behavior. Lashing out or having a meltdown was a big no no in my family. I couldn't believe when I saw a girl having a meltdown and her family supporting her (consoling her, giving her space, being understanding). My parents would have hit my or something if i had a meltdown.

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    #40

    Living in a world designed to benefit the opposite sex.

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    Graham_Illegal
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More like designed to benefit the opposite sex's stereotype. Boys who aren't tough, assertive, or leaders, who don't enjoy sports, aren't interested in competition, and prefer to be surrounded by girls, are constantly bullied from day one. I'm not saying that it's the same experience as being a girl, but gender stereotypes hurt everyone who doesn't fit them well enough.

    kansasmagic
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep - I'm familiar with some of that. In middle school, I was small and emotionally immature compared to my peers (and didn't really catch up until midway through high school). I had a bully who made 7th grade gym terrifying. I was not athletic and, again, small (through no fault or failure on my part), and the cool n' sporty kids would harass me incessantly for not being good at basketball or whatever.

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    #41

    Being sexualized for as long as I can remember. From being told to cover up from the time I was 4 to being catcalled for the first time when I was 11 to being flat out sexually harassed in high school. Also my appearance being such a huge deal, especially how much I weighed. Boys who had a few extra pounds were "big and strong", girls who had a few extra pounds were told they could be pretty if they just lost some weight.

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    #42

    The first thing that popped in to my mind was simply the things I wanted to do. Girls don't box Girls don't play base ball Girls dont do karate Even when I showed interest in music, my dad said things like, "maybe you could be Mick Jagger's back up singer." It was like they had this real small idea in their head of what I could do/was capable of before I was even a whole person.

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    whodunnitfan2013
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father must have seen me as only a certain image he thought I should be (for example, a wife), because I once told him I wanted to be a musician, so I wouldn't have time to get married, then he'd just tell me I'd marry a fellow musician.

    Lil Miss Hobbit
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then men wonder why we grow up with a "I'll prove you wrong" attitude. Darling, it's because my cousin said I couldn't be good at baseball when I was 12 because I'm a girl. Watch me.

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    #43

    Definitely having body image and the ideal norms of society I started looking at myself and compared myself to my peers at a very young age. I was probably 6-7 years old. And here I am at 25 still trying to overcome it. …..

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    #44

    Men.

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    Zedrapazia
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    1 year ago

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    That isn't an argument, that is unnecessary divide.

    setsuriseikou
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, it is an argument, just a very... er... shortened one. Fathers not wanting daughters. Fathers not wanting to be fathers. Boys lifting your skirt and pulling your ponytails. Boys and men using "like a girl" as a derogatory joke. Men behaving in the ways that openly and clearly show that you're only a woman to them, not a person. Men saying "she deserves it" and abusing their girlfriends/wives. But yeah, sure, not all men. Just some men. Quite a lot of men, actually. Too many men, if you ask me.

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    #45

    The expectation of marriage and motherhood.

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    #46

    Growing up hating women (and myself as a girl) because of the not to subtle ways it’s infused in our society. I only just recently, at 40 years old, started listening to women singers and loving it!! You really have to try and peel back the layers of patriarchy to understand how freaking amazing women really are! We’ve been here all along kicking a*s in the background.

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    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And every girl goes through an 'I'm not like the other girls'-phase. What we really meant is we're not that two-dimensional caricature of a lesser human who's only interested in makeup, fashion and how to get or a boyfriend (cue more stereotypes), but a real human being with character, needs and talents

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    #47

    For me it was knowing that no matter how amazing I was, no matter if my accomplishments were objectively far greater, I would always always always be second pick for any job or award to a mediocre male candidate.

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    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I'm for a mandatory women's quota. F**k the men who wail "but she only got the job because she's a woman" "the jobs should have gone to men, because they're obviously more qualified or why else did you think only men got those jobs in the past?". If you won't let us in, we'll just have to force our way in... again

    #48

    Apart from psychical danger, being respected when I dissented. People never listen when you’re a girl. And you can’t say “I told you so” after they messed up.

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    Me Oh My (He/They)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You really oughtn't say "I told you so" after someone messes up regardless of sex/gender because it's rude. At least, that's what I was taught.

    #49

    Realizing that no one will be there for you when you need them. The only person you can depend on is yourself. .

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    ByeFelicia
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men experience this just as often as women. We just don't talk about it. Sad but true.

    EmAdoresHerKats🇮🇪🇩🇿🇵🇸
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's true. But this article is about women and girls experiences. We should be allowed to say what we need to say without having to take men into consideration

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    #50

    Insecurity ab your body. beauty is so pedistalized and 99% of the time dressing pretty, doing makeup, getting nails done just brings attention of people you don’t want it from in my experience. it’s very rare that there’s a guy i like and even then i don’t feel very *pretty* or special when someone DOES tell me i’m beautiful or whatever from a lot of guys it feels sexually charged or somehow off.

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