Writer Asked Former Poor Kids To Share The Things Their Non-Poor Friends Didn’t Appreciate Growing Up, 30 Deliver
When growing up, kids don’t think too much about their appearances, the things they own, or how much money their parents make. All they need is to be surrounded by healthy and loving family members who would care for them. But the truth is, things change the moment people start comparing their family’s status and income to their friends.
Writer and publicist Victoria Barrett asked her followers on Twitter: "Former poor kids: what are some things you have in your house that you *never* had as a kid, things your not-poor friends would never consider luxuries?" The question brought up some difficult memories and a deluge of tweets from people who grew up in poor households.
Whether it’s fresh fruit, shoes, or toilets, the thread revealed that things people often take for granted were seen as comforts by children who grew up impoverished. Bored Panda has selected some of the most illuminating answers, so check them out below and be sure to share your thoughts in the comments.
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Getting whatever you want is such a lovely luxury! I’m paycheck to pay heck, but when I can afford some ice cream or a treat it makes me so happy
Load More Replies...I raised thee boys alone and know this feeling all to well...I don't struggle as much now that the boys are adults but occasionally I STILL cry tears of gratitude when I put simple things like Katsup or cheese in my cart.
Maybe one day I can achieve that. Buying everything I need from a grocery store. Especially FRESH, not canned, dry or musty. And being able to pay for it without worrying how will I survive till next week
Yes. When I was growing up we were upper middle class and my mom would shop at Costco. She would let me get huge things of what ever I wanted. I didn't realize how wonderful this was until I couldn't find the same kind of jobs as an adult despite 3 degrees😔 it's better now but we def cannot get whatever we want and the kids feel it.
Fun fact! Our parents are the only generation that had it better than their parents AND better than their children. Let's never forget that subset generation called The Me Generation. They got there's, end of story.
Load More Replies...It was such a huge thing when I started making enough money that I wasn't doing maths all through the grocery store, figuring out what I could afford and what we would have to do without. I hated it for my kids' sakes, but I really think it's made them more appreciative adults.
It was my goal in life when I was younger to be able to buy groceries AND pay bills....
I agree...but it's gone in reverse for me! I grew up with more of the luxury, now I go to the food bank and the grocery store is a distant loving memory!
That feeling when you had to remove half your stuff because the prices went up. But nothing hurt me more than the time I had just enough to get spaghetti and the spaghetti fell in the sink while straining it. Almost gave up my life that day. Now my net worth is over 700k
I remember having just enough $ to treat myself to a can of soda from the vending machine (50 cents at the time) and knocking it over after taking just 1 sip off of it. I was in my early 20s with child living in a different country and that was the first time in months I'd had 50 cents to spare. I'm comfortably retired now but I felt that sinking feeling reading your story. Glad you're in a much better place now
Load More Replies...I remember my brother and me running to hide because we knew my mom was getting out the food stamps to pay and we were embarrassed. We shouldn't have been. She worked hella hard and raised two kids on her own who are both college grads and productive members of society who give back because we learned through our childhood experiences.
I'm the mom not breathing until the groceries are all rung up. I've already paired the cart down at least twice before getting in line.
I am so sorry you have this struggle. It is so difficult to live with that worry.
Load More Replies...That clean water will run whenever I turn my fawcett That the lights will turn on when needed That basic services and food can be afforded every month without having to priorize only one of them at a time Fresh food. And preventive dental care
add to that- not having to sell items we love and cherish just to pay bills...
Still shudder when I think about having to p**n my 1.5 carat wedding ring, 6 months after my hubby died...I had no choice...only got 10% of what it was worth. That was 19 years ago and I still get knots in my stomach when I think about it...but I needed lights and heat in my dumpy apartment, iin January...
Load More Replies...I feel the meds, I grew up poor and my Daughter needs meds, it always feels good when you know someone you love won't get hurt because you can get what they need.
That we can do everything right and still fail, and have to carry the burden of that failure indefinitely. Yay humans.
That I won’t lose my job. These all hit the bullseye for me not as a child but as an adult.
My 'mother' once asked me why I worked so long and hard, was so thrifty. (My birth mother, who didn't waste any of the medical insurance she bragged about on me.) I told her that my biggest fear was being homeless/ cold. I loved work.
I lived like that too. Yet I you there were poor kids in me that didn't even have dinner to eat. So my family would share with them
My voic to text mest up. It was supposed to be " yet I knew there were poorer kid then me.."
Load More Replies...The illusion of ‘good mental health’ most rich people are just good at hiding- alcoholism/ other addictions/ depression/ anxiety disorders/ narcissistic behaviour/ perversions and more 😉
Load More Replies...oh yeah, silence and privacy is amazing, especially for one who spent whole childhood in one room apartment with 3 other people
Yep. This is probably it for me too. Safety and contentment at home. The absence of the co-morbidities of poverty (conflict in the home due to scarcity, depression and mental health issues and decline in physical health). When fundamental needs are not being met it creates an environment in which it is impossible to thrive. I don't miss it.
You never realise how good silence is versus anger or fighting. I learned to be silent as a ghost for safety, my room mate makes sure I have my necklace on so he can hear me and stop getting jump scared, lol
Have heard of Dave Pelzer? He lived with a mother who abused him so often and unexpectedly, during the night as well day, that he learned how to sleep with his eyes open, so that he could protect himself more quickly. At 12, he broke his Silence and was placed in Fostrr care for the next 6 years. If he naps, he puts a blanket on his face to avoid creeping people out seeing him so still, but with his eyes open.
Load More Replies...I remember when the first TV showed up in 1962. We thought for a brief moment that we were rich. If it had not been for my mom’s JCPenneys card there would have been no birthday’s or Christmas. I don’t really know how she kept six kids fed and in glasses 👓 I had two “School dresses” and polished my saddle oxford’s every Saturday night for church in the morning. Sometimes (many times) all we had to eat was a big pot of rice with a few raisins in it. I look around at my comfortable, warm apartment and I am so grateful for the blessings I’ve been given. Although I’m a widow now, I’m always reminded of the good life he and I made together for 25 years. And I’m not talking about money. I mean the love and enjoyment of everyday life. I’m sure some of the kids I thought were rich, aren’t today.
This answer is a little dumb. Not because those things aren't important, but they aren't related to poverty level. When I was a kid and my parents were married, we had tons of money but there was never silence, peace or safety. After my parents were divorced, when we traded in our three story English Tudor for a 900 square foot apartment for five people and lived mostly on donations from the food bank, we had silence, peace and safety.
The answer isn't dumb, you're just one of the 2/100 people to whom this is an exception.
Load More Replies...A roof over your head ,warm clothes, and being taught to be respectful and not put others down for what they have wrong or what they dress like, or look like . Good morals,good manners and respect for others.
Victoria Barrett’s post quickly went viral by touching the hearts of thousands. People saw it as a truly emotional thread and started sharing their own examples. Many of the things people lacked when growing up resonated deeply with the writer. She started liking so many of the responses, Twitter even labeled her as a bot. "Twitter has decided that I'm clicking the heart on your replies too fast and I must be a bot, so if I don't [heart] your tweet, know that I see you and feel you," she tweeted.
The author of this post revealed that she had experienced childhood poverty herself by writing out some of the things she never had at her house: "A few of mine are Kleenex, band-aids, ziplock bags, and paper towels." In another tweet, she added, "Another one for me is an actual bedroom. With a closet in it. Also a car! That works! And another car that works in the same family!"
I had the material things but lost my mom when I was 5. And then my dad lost his way in a bottle of scotch. I am glad you had a mom who you knew loved you.
A home. Same home every night. Not sleeping in cold car. Actual food. Not condiments from gas station. Same school instead of new one every month. No bills in name when kid. Not using different names so cps didn't catch up with us. Clothes that fit..I can go on and on.
I wish you wouldn’t. These are things that no child should endure. This is sad.
Load More Replies...It blows my mind that people don’t see single mothers as the real heroes.
Amen! Right now I am in the process of paying more for dental care for my cat than I think we could have afforded for a single dental procedure for me back then!
Even dental care for us! I’m only covered for $1,500 a year and my bill is now $2,000 over. Every time I have an issue and go, or even to put a chip in the bill, it just keeps getting added on. I’ve been trying to pay it off for 7 years. :/
Load More Replies...Vet bills are wayyyy too expensive. I grew up very fortunate but now that I’m on my own, I live paycheck to paycheck and when an $800 vet bill comes, I’m so far behind, I can’t even buy cat food or litter for my babies. You’d think, if the vet was more affordable, we wouldn’t be in debt… :(
You have no idea how expensive it is to get a vet degree, afford all the equipment and meds required, and a space and employees, plus pay the add on government "professional taxes." Vets love animals and want to help them, but they carry enormous debt and overhead and also have families to care for. My children ate casseroles and crockpot meals and "leftovers soup" at least once every week because, you know, vets are soooo expensive.
Load More Replies...I'm so proud everytime I take my pups to the vet for routine checkups and shots. We had a ton of stray dogs growing up that were fed, which is better than if they had stayed on the streets, but never had vet treatment for them. Now that I'm grown with my own kids and pets, my kids have all their needs met, material and emotional, and my dogs are cared for completely. Flea/tick pills every three months, annual heartworm preventative, spayed, annual shots, while nine yards.
Me too my mother threw my cat and her kitten out onto the street I found her and her babie the next time she took her so far I couldn't find her she and the kit were all I had to Love I never forgave her for that or any of the other things she did and I never will I don't think about her any more because that woman is nothing but a waste of my time
That was a horrible thing to do! I am so sorry you went thru this. This made me cry.
Load More Replies...I carry SO much guilt and sorrow about that. However, our pets were loved, cherished, and fed
Me too, pets that I had to give up because the rent was too much and the new place wouldn’t take pets. All the pets I’ve had as an adult were adopted, spay/neutered and NOT ONE was ever given up
During the worst of my family’s years of poverty, we had the same three meals for months on end: big honkin’ pot of pinto beans, big honkin’ pot of white beans, big honkin’ pot of navy beans. Each pot would last our family of seven two or three days, then we’d move on to the next one, again.
Same. But only rice. And sometimes cheap pasta. At least had eggs every few days, because we had hens... but having food for the hens was another issue... that is how we (family of 8, with 5 children under 14 years old) survived covid lockdown. Still scraping by tho
Load More Replies...Would go into Wendy's and buy a Biggie water for 10¢ and take enough napkins on my way out so we'd have toilet paper for the next three days. They wouldn't say anything if I paid for the extra large cup...
Tho we went without a lot of stuff, mom & dad made sure we had annual dental checkups. The dentist was 40 miles away and all 8 of us would have our appointments one after the other. When we got out it was usually getting close to supper time. Dad would go thru the drive thru at the fast food place and order a large fries and a jumbo coke a cola and a bunch of napkins. Mom would divide up the fries for us 6 kids and we'd all pass around the glass of coke. That would have to hold us until we got home and she could make supper while we quick went to the barn and did the chores.
Load More Replies...there were many times when we had to make our milk from powdered milk....and we used a lot of "government" cheese! Those made the best grilled cheese sandwiches.
Government cheese and the peanut butter. Sooo good.
Load More Replies...My mom still eats corn flakes with water. She grew up having to do it, so now it's her preference.
Yes when I tell my husband that we drank powdered milk, he thought it was a joke. He did not know they made powdered milk.
My mom used to mix the powdered milk with whole milk but I just could not stand the taste, so I just didn't drink milk growing up. Mom was trying but it was a waste of money.
Load More Replies...As kids, we would sometimes eat cereal with water because we had no milk. Now I make sure my son always has milk for his cereal.
My least enjoyed but appreciated getting to eat was the summer of mostly pickled eggs to eat.
I explained to a nutritionist why I will never use skim,1% or even 2% milk. I grew up with powdered milk. And the low fat milks taste too much like the powdered. It's like a flashback.
As opposed to solid milk...? And before someone says powdered milk, you don't eat it as powder. It still becomes a liquid and it can go on cereal.
For many, this might seem like pretty simple objects that thousands of people couldn’t live a day without. That’s why it’s easy to forget that some things we take for granted or consider to be common additions to our basic human needs are actually items that people below the poverty line might consider the biggest luxuries imaginable.
This thread serves as a good reminder to appreciate the things you have and that not everyone has easy access to them. In fact, Columbia University found that the monthly child poverty rate increased by 4.9 in January 2022 alone, and it’s the highest rate since the end of 2020. This increase in poverty "represents 3.7 million more children in poverty due to the expiration of the monthly Child Tax Credit payments."
That your dad allowed you live in poverty when he had the means to support you better is on him.
As someone with a child and court ordered visitation + child support, who hasn't received child support payments since 2016... it's not as easy as folx seem to think it is. Courts only get involved if I make them and that costs money that I don't have, along with causing potential issues. Wage garnishing only happens if you're paid legally or if the company knows they're supposed to do so. IDK where people live where prison time is an option for not paying child support, but that's not how it is here. I have to follow the court agreement and everything, regardless of if he pays, and it explicitly says this in our law. And there's also repercussions that my daughter could face so getting him to pay me and having him upset + taking it out on my daughter is not worth it. I work 3 jobs and do my best for her, without his help. He knows he's supposed to pay and makes sure he doesn't. So many folx here who have no idea what it's like to be the mom in that situation.
Load More Replies...Wow, what a great dad, allowing you to live like that. My ex husband makes considerably more than me because I’m only able to work part time due to our youngest being autistic but he makes damn sure we are okay and don’t need anything.
We don't hear about guys like your ex enough,and you also,just putting your kids 1st. And giving credit where due,..bravo.
Load More Replies...That's so sad in both cases that the mothers had to live in poverty with children while the ex-husbands lived very comfortably! So wrong on so many levels!!!
That is standart in my country. And legal and lawers fees for trying to get child support are simply not affordable. Fathers will not give suport to their children unless the judge tells them so... and even then they can go away by simply declaring they have no money enough. If women want child suppot, they have to provide the legal evidence that the father has enough money. Not that simple and very expensive to do.
Load More Replies...Your father should hang his head in shame. He had the ability to do better for you and didn't. His childish need to prevent your mother any security affected you as well and he didn't care.
That's similar to my x. He'd also dump our daughter off with his parents when it was his weekend. I'm relieved though. I didn't feel like she was safe with him, but I couldn't afford to fight the system on visitations. At least he had lots of expensive stuff to occupy himself and her. Oh, and the new wife 2 weeks after the divorce was final.
As a woman...you don't need a lawyer to get child support...social services goes to court if there's a dispute. Don't act like you couldn't do anything about it....I'm sure your response is a lie ...which is why it doesn't make sense
Load More Replies...What is the mother doing with her paycheck??? She better be working....plus....the father is no doubt paying child support.....where is that money going??? Plus...there is food stamps that the mother should have asked for....where's that ??? Stop blaming men for irresponsible women
Load More Replies...When I was a kid we had a wood-burning stove. It was this huge metal box that sat in the kitchen and we had to go once a month to chop wood in the timber to supply us from fall to early spring. First thing in the morning it was so cold until it heated up and even then the upstairs bedrooms had no heat. When it was really cold in the winter I slept under the table in the kitchen in my sleeping bag. We had no A/C in summer, it was open every door/window and turn on the fans.
I remember as a kid leaving a glass of water on the windowsill in my room. I woke up and it was half frozen. I wouldn't change it though. My folks tried. They are way better off now and I'm incredibly happy for them.
Load More Replies...Wood stove to heat part of the house, no heat in bedrooms, thermostats set to 50*F (10*C) if we ran the "heat" at all otherwise, and that's why I slept with two dogs and two cats on my bed. We were all cold. To have reliable heat, *and* AC? I get teary-eyed. It's silly, I know, but I do.
We had coal burner stoves that only were on during the day. Very cold at night. I had an old scratchy Navy blanket. I was sent out to fill the coal scuttle at night with my older brother but he refused to fill it up and made me do it. If I said no, he would push me down into the coal pile. Coal dust is black and greasy and very hard to get off. My parents never believed me.
Yeah. We had to wear a lot of clothes and sleep with parkas on, because nights were so dam** cold, my bones will hurt. Hate cold, snow and crispy air since I can remember. That is why I've chosen to live in tropical climates. Never again another cold night even if it is the last thing I do. Never ever
As a teenager our house was so cold I could barely do my homework because my hands would go numb
We heated and cooked with a wood stove. We also had to heat water on the wood stove. It was my job everyday to split wood and load the wood boxes. When I left home, I was absolutely ecstatic that hot water came right out of the faucet! No more "bucket baths" for me!
That's one of the greatest memories I have with my dad (who passed when I was 10) I remember him getting me up for school and warming my socks either on the wood stove or on the open oven door. So my socks would be warm for me he was so amazing I love you dad.
not just there. this is the weak point of health everywhere
Load More Replies...YES. SUCH A STRUGGLE. (I’m over in my dental care and trying to chip away at the $2k bill but it just keeps adding up. Same with my vet bills.
Dental and health care were nonexistant - get hurt or teeth hurt, suck it up
First of all, great user name and shout out to Terry Pratchett fans... second of all, I second that. USA here, and hundreds (even thousands) of unnecessary dollars spent PER CITIZEN on what should be a basic HUMAN regulation on the broken "health care system" ... if you want to call it that... yep. USA.
Dental is ridiculous. This coming from someone in the field. If it’s not pharma or insurance raising rates we have to charge more. Not to mention the greedy doc out there. They make dental hard for people on tight income. If I wasn’t in the field I’d be screwed…. I can count on one hand when I went to the dentist as a kid. That’s only because my grandparents took me. They too did not have much. ❤️
I'm 57 and haven't been to the dentist in over 20 years. When I was working, my insurance had big deductibles, and now that I'm on Medicare, there's no coverage at all. I can't afford it on my own, so I take as good care of my teeth as I can. Hoping Medicare will start covering Dental and Vision.
Any dental appointments. Got my first in high school when a tooth literally lost its top. Grandma paid for the crown.
Dental appointments AT ALL! I have 8 teeth, because we didn't go to the dentist unless it was life or death, and extractions were the only option.
There's an abundance of scientific evidence that shows poor kids grow up to have a myriad of physical problems as adults. Cornell University researchers conducted a study by following 341 participants over a 15-year period (who were tested at ages 9, 13, 17, and 24) where they reveal that childhood poverty can cause significant psychological damage in adulthood too.
In the study, children who grew up impoverished showed signs of aggression, bullying, and increased feelings of helplessness, compared to kids from middle-income backgrounds. Plus, they experienced more chronic physiological stress and deficits in short-term spatial memory.
"What this means is, if you're born poor, you're on a trajectory to have more of these kinds of psychological problems," Gary Evans, the author of the study and professor of environmental and developmental psychology at Cornell, told Science Daily.
I can afford stuff now and when I go home and find something I want to eat, I just eat it knowing I'll be able to replace it
Or getting yelled at for wasting food because your parent put too much on your plate, and then punished for crying because they were yelling at you to eat when you litterally couldn't eat anymore. I was just having dinner with a friend and almost cried because he said it was ok to not finish all the fries if I wasn't hungry because he noticed me struggling.
This is why my mother always insisted we serve ourselves. If it looked like one of us was piling up too much on round one, she’d remind us that we can always have more after we finish what’s on our plate, but once it’s on the plate, you are obligated to eat it. It was a great way for kids to learn how to gage what and how much they need.
Load More Replies...My biggest thing as an adult is I feel content when we have plenty of food and snacks in the house. We werent dirt poor but I was raised by a single mother who was a server and busted her butt working 2 jobs to make sure I was taken care of.
We kids were not allowed to have butter because that was just for our mother.
Yes. Or only being able to eat one slice, because there is only one bread/fuit/candy for every one
I get mad when food is thrown out. Like wtf did I buy this?! It pains me to see food wasted.
We (society) should do more to feed children fruit and veggies. That's why schools should have free healthy meals for their students. The kids need it and will benefit in more ways than one.
To be honest just because the schools offer it doesn't mean they will take it. Parents also need to introduce the healthy foods to their kids at home. Having apples and celery at school doesn't work when the kid doesn't eat them then goes home to chicken nuggets and juice.
Load More Replies...I remember having a little girl come over my home to play with my daughter and I was giving them a snack and I opened the fridge and took out some strawberries and some pineapple and cut it up and put it on a plate and the little girl looked up at me and said what is this I've never seen this before and I cried.... I had completely never even imagined a child not knowing what a strawberry is it struck me as so profoundly sad especially in the United States.
The sad thing is that there's enough food to feed everyone in this world. But too many are unwilling to share just a little of their wealth. Even though they have more money than they can spend - even if they had 3 lifetimes. For the top 10% of the wealthiest, money is not a means to buy things. It's a source of power and control over others. And they are addicted to that feeling of control.
If we were lucky, we got some fresh fruit, in our Christmas stocking. We didn't have indoor bathroom. We bathed in the kitchen, heating water on the stove. Sharing a bed until I was 12, then shared a bedroom. One car for the family. Momma put school clothes on layaway for us.To start school. I never had a bike, skates, skateboards,anything like that.I did get a Barbie, and A baby doll. With a stroller. Jump rope, Paper Dolls, that kind of thing.
The supermarkets in my country have free fresh fruit for kids at the entrance to the store.
Hi- former supermarket person here! Bananas and apples are cheapest fruits to put out and the ones kids like- so not a big deal. Everyone eats the grapes.
Load More Replies...I'm a board member of the Montezuma School to Farm Project (MSTFP) an organization that works with all the schools in the county to teach students about growing crops using techniques specific to the region. All of the food grown at one of the elementary schools is used in their SCRATCH kitchen. The kids love the program and it's something that can be implemented in almost any school.
I was going through a financial situation when covid hit. My kiddos schools started sending lunches home and having pickup times so that all the kids one free lunches wouldn't go hungry. My kids weren't fond of the school lunches, so I used what money I could to buy them the food they would eat and I'd pick up their lunches and that was my food.
I learned this one very early. My mom and grandma both can't digest bananas either. No idea why. Runs in the fam. We're not allergic, but if we eat one? Our innards try to be "out-ards".
I can remember a friend whose mother required him to eat a bowl of cherries daily. He hated them. I offered to eat them (since my friend refused them) and the mother told me no, it was for my friend only. Oh how I wished for that bowl of cherries! I'm 64 now, and I remember it like yesterday.
Yes. People think I'm weird because I love veggies, and salad. But these weren't things we had a lot growing up. Our main food source was crackers, soda, Ramen, and Alfredo.
Thats for rich people,end tables and lamps too.Like people on tv have
Load More Replies...New underwear that nobody else had ever worn instead of ill fitting yard sale/thrift store used underwear I had to pin the waist to keep on. I'll never forget the day in 7th grade when the pin popped and stuck me in my side. 😳
I won't buy a car that I can't also sleep in. I've needed to do just that too many times already.
You keep rolled up toilet paper in your purse or your coat pocket for the times you need to blow your nose?
Load More Replies...I had no idea that tissue, paper towel, and cotton swabs were a thing people kept in their houses regularly
i have a camping stove a tent and some solar charged lights just in case things go tits up again , as long as we stay together we'll be good
I felt this in my soul 💖 I keep camping gear and necessities in my truck for that reason as well.
Load More Replies...The pillows reminded me how thankful I am to have a mattress that hasn't been handed down several times before I got to use it
I always worry that something is going to come up unexpectedly that throws my whole budget out the window. I try but I can’t get ahead enough to have that cushion.
This may as well read "the best part about having money is having money!"
To beat a tv to make it work. To pray for a Barbie Doll that you never could get from Santa Claus at Christmas. To eat beans and cornbread alot. To sitting on furniture that has holes in it. To rise above it and be surprised by things getting better as I grew up.
I think I take too many things for granted now. A little boy came around collecting food for a food drive... cub scouts I think. I opened my pantry and filled a large grocery bag for him, and he was just flabbergasted. I guess I had forgotten that for a whole lot of folks, that is inconceivable luxury, to be able to give away food.
Best feeling in the world is to be able to just go get what your child needs without a calendar and a calculator.
Stealing from the deli, walking out of cafeterias, eating in grocery store, all while in a catholic school uniform. Oh and having to work in school cafeteria for 'free lunch'
Never understood as a kid why we had to wait for new clothes a few times until I became a mom and it’s either new clothes or food one week to the next. Learning how to budget and how to limit our spending each week was a hard lesson to learn. I don’t know how my parents did it.
Growing up I inherited clothes from my moms friends children. It was a party when a bag came! Some were to small, some to large (but were saved for later), but those that fitted ok was soooo nice! I looked like a rag doll or like DP “coat of many colours”. And I had an aunt that sew somethings to me too. It was not until I started 1 class (7 yo) I got my first bought clothes. One pair of Wranglers with the V over the knees, one tee and a pair of plateau wood shoes 😂. It was in August so when it came to October I had to go back to my inheritance and next April I had outgrown the fancy clothes. But those 2 months were nice.
"With poverty, you're exposed to lots of stress. Everybody has stress, but low-income families, low-income children, have a lot more of it," Evans added. "And the parents are also under a lot of stress. So for kids, there is a cumulative risk exposure."
The child psychologist explained that the findings of this study are important since kids who grow up in poverty are likely to stay impoverished as adults — there's a 40 percent chance that a son's income will be the same as his father's. "People walk around with this idea in their head that if you work hard, play by the rules, you can get ahead," he said. "And that's just a myth. It's just not true."
24 hrs of clean running water will do it for me. Just running water out the fawcett everytime I need it.
I never let on to my folks that my family's budget was real tight. Repairs on our old car always set us back. Our utilities usually got paid on time to avoid shut-off. Just in time, when we were lucky. Otherwise we'd go a few days without lights until payday. Payday was the last day of each month. My dad came over one afternoon to visit and was sitting on the sofa reading to our daughter Maria (she was about 4 years old.) The mail was delivered, dropped through the slot on the front door onto the entry room floor. Just one item. The electric bill. Maria took one look across the room at the mail on the floor, pointed to the envelope and hollered "We got a problem, Mom. It's a pink one." 🤪
I live in South Africa. Unless you have a generator and a borehole, that's still a worry no matter how rich you are.
Every single time I take a shower, I thank God for the blessing because water IS .a.blessing. So many times it got turned off because I had to choose what was more important, fixing a car one more time to be able to go to.work, take.kids to school.or daycare or pay the mortgage and get some food from the local pantry or pay the water and electric bills.
I vividly recall times coming home from school, latchkeying myself in, and flipping a light switch hoping something happened. It sucked twice as much on Fridays when you'd do that bc if nothing happened, it would be AT LEAST Monday before whatever got turned back on.
I didn't know that we were middle class until I was a teen, my mother grew up poor and she wanted to make sure that I didn't grow up conceded. So I never wore Air Jordan's or Nike's, and I couldn't even have a game boy, but all n all it made me extremely appreciative.
This was a big one growing up. No electricity, no hot water. It was awful, especially in the winter.
When I've gone to northern Mexico, it's still, no hot water. If you have electricity and cash, one can purchase a water heater and tank, some, like the family I've visited with, have a small hand heald heater they dunk into the 5 gallon water to heat up over a period of 30 minutes or so. But be careful or electrocution is possible. 😅 Or even a pooer family will either heat up the water over a stove or wood burning... the real old fashion way. It amazes me how many are so backed behind in progress yet it's more comfortable for the elites to already want to express and conquer other planets yet ours is still in need.
Load More Replies...As a child, I spent a year in post WWII England and another year in Hong Kong. I saw the way people were forced to live. I remember, in England, a mother having to demonstrate how to eat a banana. Her son did not know to peel it first. In Hong Kong, I saw bands of homeless orphans roaming the street, looking for handouts. I gave them my parents carton of cigarettes to sell so they could have food. I was 10 years old at the time.
Wow! Thank you for sharing this piece of history. You were a kind child to help others. I pray we never have to endure or see what you did ever again. But I'm afraid that even without another world war, we are still fighting other things that as a modern society, we shouldn't be. God bless you ma'am and continue to share with us your stories.
Load More Replies...As a kid the power company couldn't shut off our power because I had pretty bad asthma and my mom had severe asthma
If you live where mullein grows, we call it "camp flannel" for a reason. The leaves, fresh, are very good TP. Yes, I've done that. Maple tree leaves, too. You can't flush it, but it beats nothing.
But not nettle leaves, picked those once thinking they'd make good toilet paper. Glad they stung my hands before I got a chance to use it.
Load More Replies...We were out of toilet paper so often growing up. It was a struggle to figure out what to do instead. To this day i always want lots of extra in the house and have never allowed is to get to the point where we are out. I was not one of those who hoarded it at the beginning of the pandemic but i wished we'd been able to get an extra pack or two from Costco before they ran out. That was a stressful couple of months for me being afraid of being back in that situation i grew up in, lol. Luckily we managed to find what we needed right when we needed it.
We've been down to torn and crumpled newspapers, pages from the phone book, sears catalog pages...yep...better than nothing!
The worst part of that is figuring what to do with it after it's used... can't flush that, and especially as a kid, the condition of the septic tank was always a huge worry.
Load More Replies...Someone told me that their family had a difficult time providing basic hygiene needs like toilet paper and was told to clean her ass with a coffee filter. If you're too poor to provide toilet paper for the household, you probably don't have money to buy coffee either!
I remember having to use sheets of newspaper as a kid. My Dad took me to grocery store. He'd give me a quarter for the newspaper machine and I would take three or four copies of the Houston Chronicle. The newspaper had so many pages to it that it would be our toilet paper for a week or two. We had to crumble it up over and over again to make it soft.
3 squares is sufficient to wipe your bottom is what we were always told. I tell it to my grand children now.
The most logical thing to use, IMHO, would be old washcloths or even rags. These can be washed and reused over and over. Plus if you wet them first, you get a very clean wipe.
I literally had to beg for toilet paper today. Luckily I have good friends
Snacks back home were "What is edible, growing, and available?" Thank God I was raised in the country on a farm. FYI, you can make a good snack out of more than you know, but please learn for at least one year, so you can ID plants when they don't have flowers or fruit. Annoying AF that guidebooks don't show those pictures, b/c some edibles you don't want when they've flowered/fruited.
Clothes bought larger than needed so you could "grow into them" really so they lasted longer.
Yah. My clothes were so big I could still wear them since I was a 10 year old! Now I'm in my late 30s! We have neighbours so wasteful now, my mom pick the clothes up with tags on them? I got to try some clothes which I never thought I would!
Load More Replies...I remember while growing up, pudding was a luxury. I grew up in a good area, but the bills literally killed off any saved money we could salvage, so anytime mom or dad, before they got divorced, got pudding, it was going to be a good week.
I get kind of weird when my husband wants to go to a "nice" restaurant. We don't drink, so that helps to keep the cost down, but I still cringe at paying $75+ for a single meal. (We don't do it often for that very reason. Bless him - at least he's understanding about it & I'm a great cook!)
My parents discovered a cookie factory near our home that sold broken cookies at a very low price. They were plain, oatmeal cookies and tasted wonderful.
We had mayonnaise sandwiches for a snack. Be one piece of bread with mayo folded over.
Snacks is only a thing when I make my own money. As a kid, there is no such thing. Sometimes adults did ask me to eat more cuz I was really skinny. My parents would just say I'm a picky eater. Truth is, we survived on canned and preserved dry food a lot. Snacks are mostly dry crackers that make you lose your appetite rather than full.
The first (and only) time we had fast food was the 76 olympics. If US got gold, you got a big mac. Silver was free fries, and bronze was a soda. We rarely got soda, but we ate well!
Participants had to perform several tests of short-term spatial memory, helplessness, mental health, and chronic physiological stress. Evans explained that the study has two implications. First, one of the best ways to prevent these problems is early intervention: "If you don't intervene early, it's going to be really difficult and is going to cost a lot to intervene later," he noted.
Then, increasing the incomes in poor households is the most efficient way to minimize a child's exposure to poverty and their risk of developing psychological problems. He mentioned that if a family is poor and has children, the federal government should provide them with extra income that's enough to participate in society.
By the time I entered high school, I was so near-sighted that I had to sit in the front row, and even though our lives had improved considerably by that time, I didn’t get glasses until I bought them for myself at age 19 because I had a ticket to see Artur Rubinstein play in one of his last live performances, when he was 89 years old and nearly blind, and I wanted to SEE as well as hear.
This makes me feel ashamed of myself as a teenager. I was pretty nearsighted & in 8th grade I got glasses, but I was too worried about how they'd look, or what people would think or whatever (alas, the uncertainty of adolescence...), so I just struggled to see instead of wearing them. I actually forgot about them until I was moving out after graduation & found them, pristine & pretty, in a drawer. I picked them up & put them on & it was like, "OMG I CAN SEE!!!" And luckily by then I was old enough I don't give 2 shits how they looked or if people didn't like them (so stupid, idk why I thought anyone would care... Just the neuroses of a teenager I suppose), I was just so glad I could see! So you can see why I feel sheepish about my actions knowing now that someone like you, who desperately wanted\needed glasses, couldn't get them while I was lucky enough to have a pair & put it aside due to vanity.
Load More Replies...Right now, for the first time of my fifty four years,I have my glasses, and a pair of glasses as backups, and my oldest pair is still serviceable. I took all three out and just gloated over the riches the other day! I feel quite decadent having good backup for eventually items, yes I do!!!!!
I am 55 and this month is the first time I could buy my own glasses without having someone else help financially. Granted a lot of that is because online eyeglasses providers are so much less expensive, but it still felt like a huge win. In fact I ordered a backup pair for just in case mine broke again. I have never had an extra pair just sitting around for just in case.
If anyone reading this needs assistance with their children's glasses, the places owned by National Vision give away lots of free exams and 2 pairs of glasses. Sometimes the parents can get a voucher through the school, but if you call and tell the place you are in need, they can usually take care of you. Lions Club helps with all ages, and there are big discounts for AARP members.
That's the worst, it happened to me when I was in rehab and I wasn't allowed to use the glue to try and help the tape along
I couldn't read the top letter on eye chart in elementary school. And my mother was repeatedly told and blew it off. My parent's had vision insurance...but I didn't get glasses until I was almost 13. One pair, much less a back up pair. My mother was poor at being a parent to me.
I too had a similar experience ..mine broke right in the middle so my dad took a piece of his leather belt and two screws and somehow put them back together ..I was in 7th grade new kid in town my last name was Duty and our truck had been wrecked an old bread truck my dad worked out of was painted purple ..lol true story . Definitely remember lights water being shut off moving alit staying with family and very little food it was a very special treat to go to taco bell
I remember many times that when I woke up in the morning to head out to school, there was often no one home...drunken binders...chasing drugs.. What have you...till this day and Im near 50 I still smell the milk to make sure its not bad....every time I do so I think of my padt growing up...sneaking food to my friends when I had none for myself. IF anything I learned the value of true friendship.I do not miss those days, but am often reminded of it. No child should ever have to worry about when there going to be able to eat or sleep..wareing clean clothes or for someone to just be there for you..I can only hope that these post help those in need psychology...always remember who you are and ware you came from!!!! I WISH THE WORLD WAS A KINDER PLACE...EVERYONE DESERVES LOVE!!! thank you for tsking the time to read my post..
I was 10 in 1963 when we got an indoor toilet instead of the outhouse.
Well google tells me Cheryl Strayed is an American author and podcaster who is 53. 2022-53 = 1969. 1969+19 = 1988. So, USA, 1988.
Load More Replies...Dan, that's all it DID mean, when I was a kid. Knew no other.
Load More Replies...When I was a kid, before my father abandoned us, if we asked what was for dessert he would say "wind pudding with air sauce" meaning nothing.
Load More Replies...I was invited to a wealthy person's home for supper and it was served buffet style. I took modest portions to not seem greedy and the food was fabulous. When I thought to get seconds, the line had been cleared off! How stingy must these people have been to allow their guests to leave hungry! To hell with the lamb's wool carpeting and fancy crystal if their hospitality is so lacking. Never went back.
My ex grew up with a single mom and 6 kids. He has a scar on his hand where one of his sisters stabbed him with a fork for reaching for the last pork chop! It's funny now, but....
Because you want to. It is different when you have to find any way possible to save a literal penny wherever you can. Hits different.
Load More Replies...It should be the norm. Plastic Was invented to last long. It is a shame we produce so much Plastic for just one use. I do often reuse bags and containers but to be honest, i use so much Plastic (especially for food. Cheese, Chips, bread, Milk...) i feel ashamed but the options are not great and somehow expensive
I'm 62 and still wash and dry my zip lock bags and claim butter bowls as free Tupperware !
My grandmother washed and reused ziplock bags and food containers. She wouldn't waste anything. My mom and dad both would have bought her anything she needed or wanted but she never asked for a thing. She taught me the value of small things. I miss her and think of her every day and she's been gone for over 20 years.
I wash and reuse my ziplock bags because I don’t want to generate more plastic waste.
"It's not true you can't do anything about poverty. It's just whether there's the political will, and are people willing to reframe the problem, instead of blaming the person who is poor and — even more preposterous — blaming their children," he said. "This is a societal issue, and if we decide to reallocate resources like we did with the elderly and Social Security, we could change the kind of data this study is showing."
My older daughter grew up poor in Haiti till I adopted her when she was 12. For all the bad -and there was a LOT bad- she still miss the kind of support and camaraderie I think you seldom find among the middle class and rich.
You are absolutely right. Sometimes the people with the least to give (by societal standards) are the most generous, & lives filled with love & joy.
Load More Replies...Shared misery has a way of doing that. Wasn't poor enough for that although we were not even middle class. Military time tends to do the same thing.
Like when you put all of your fingers together, hold them up to your mouth, & then pull your hand away as you make a "mmmuah!" sound.
Load More Replies...it was very exciting to make a costume with my parents as a kid. I’m sorry today’s kids are buying ready-made costumes, the magic is lost
When my mum was crazy poor as a single mum, she just bought a pack of purple balloons from the dollar store and blew them up and taped them to my and my twin’s matching purple snowsuits (we were 5 yo at the time). We were two lil bunches of grapes! Was a really fun costume to make with her, I remember us all giggling a lot while she taped us up, one of my best memories :)
Load More Replies...I used to make my own from clothes we had that couldn't really be used anymore or that my dad was using as rags. Kind of felt pretty cool gluing press-on nails to old work gloves to make monster paws
I didn't grow up poor, just basic middle-class, but my parents were thrifty. My mom would never spend money on a store bought costume. We could buy face paint, but we had to get creative and come up with clever costume ideas using stuff we had at home. It was actually quite fun! I continued the same tradition with my son.
I bet you’ve come up with some pretty cool costumes that way!
Load More Replies...During our small-kid-shepherded-by-Parental-Unit-years we all went as ghosts…old used sheets bought at a second-hand store and then having eyes cut out so we wouldn’t trip and fall. Once I was old enough, I would be anything so long as I could wear some teen’s prom dress that we’d by at a used clothing store for $1.00 or less (we’re talking early 1960s).
I understand. I always got picked on for my costumes. My three kids could make costumes if they wanted but many years I bought some too. Not crazy expensive ones, but ones they wouldn't get bullied over.
My grandma was a seamstress and made my clothes until the 7th grade. That sucked! But the Halloween costumes we had were great.
My mom is an excellent, self-taught seamstress. She would start in August asking us what we wanted to be for Halloween and she did her best to make us the nicest costumes from fabric and such that she bought from the piece-goods section almost all Walmarts used to have. We usually wore the same costume two years in a row, but we didnt care because they were so awesome. 😊
The year I was 11, my parents started their own business and they had a good product, but it turned out to be just a fad rather than the next big thing like they had thought it would be. They had put pretty much everything they had into it and weren’t able to pay the mortgage on the house, which I found out one day near the end of fifth grade (so I was 11. My brother was 10, my sister was 8, the next brother was ~2-1/2 and the baby was shy of six months) when I came home from school and everything we owned was sitting in the living room. We spent the summer in a Bohemian friend’s mountain shack, replete with a hot plate in the “kitchen” (a long, low room about 85 steps up the side of a mountain, with poison oak all over the place, including those steps), a small room where all seven of us slept, and an open pit beside the cabin as our toilet. And there were biting flies.
Now I want to hear how things went from that point on.
Load More Replies...I hope that things are much better for all of you now. I'll never complain again.
No toilet still happens in very rural areas like in Kentucky and also countries like India . I think going without food is worse of all going for days without anything to eat just imagine. At all east you can go to the woods to use the bathroom. It's sad all the way around.
I read somewhere that like 2\3 of the homes in Alaska are without indoor plumbing, can you imagine how freaking COLD that has to be in the winter?! And how much it would suck to have to pee in the middle of the night & get completely dressed because there's a foot of snow on the ground!
Load More Replies...Outhouse only sucked when it was cold. Didnt matter when your HOUSE was cold too, lol
My grandfather still used an outhouse and a pump for his water until the day he died in 1980. My parents had indoor plumbing, thankfully. I was so afraid of falling into the hole in the outhouse!
For a long time we lived in an old garage/shed that used to be used as a barn so the roof leaked massively when it rained but it did not rain often where we were. We had sleeping bags and kero lamps and later managed to rig a coolgardie safe up that they kept the made up powdered milk in, in an old bottle. The "bathroom" was where the feed had been kept so it had no door and we had a bucket for a toilet. That is where my fear of spiders began because they were everywhere in that place. Dad found an old "copper boiler" at the tip, that was apparently what you had before washing machines, and that was what we had the rain water in for drinking. Neighbours down the road threw out a kiddie pool so that was what I used to stomp around in to do the laundry and we had some wire between trees for washing line
Mary Rose where are you we need more...what happened...the turning point..you left is hanging here!!
We had an outhouse. And an outdoor shower that we would go to the creek for the water and boil it then put it in this compartment my step dad built with a string that would let the water come down on us. So indoor plumbing is the BEST
I grew up in an aflluent family, but when I was at the university, I was quite poor, living mainly on what I got from a work-study job that paid very little (my family stopped paying for my education because I changed colleges so many times.) I moved a few times, but the place I stayed the longest didn't have running water. There was an outhouse out back—and this was in a really, really cold climate. I would go to the university for anything needing water and rarely used the outhouse. I had a Toyota Land Cruiser that my parents had bought me, and most of the money I made went to buying gas for it. This was long ago, so it was strictly a utilitarian vehicle, not the fancy things they make now.
I remember our Privy, It had three doors and three seats, BUT, No Men on the Pink seat.That was the Women's!
Actual bedroom with a bed you don't have to share... not even with pets. A bed just for yourself
Hell for a few year when I was 10-13 I had to sleep on the back porch. It had a couple half fitting windows. During the winter we would put plastic on them. I had no privacy. The back door was the main entrance into the house. It was very cold in the winter and I used a lot of blankets but I always had a chill. My 12th birthday present was a wall so I could have some privacy at least. My two sisters had room and my parents. Also in the main bathroom you had to step over a large hole that went straight the the trailer and out side. My dad did fix this after a little bit. But there where still a few hole the carpet covered up.
Load More Replies...This one hit me hard. From 6th grade until I graduated high school and moved out I lived in my grandmas living room with my mom and my older brother. She had a long sectional couch and me and my mom slept on that while my brother slept on the floor. My grandmother passed recently and I am so grateful to have had her in my life. She was the only one who cared enough to make sure we didn't end up homeless. I was so embarrassed in middle school and high school when my friends would want to spend the night at my house (like I always did theirs) and I had to come up with different reasons why they couldn't even come in my house let alone sleep there. My husband and I own our own house and that's huge for me since I didn't even have my own bedroom when I was a kid.
No matter how hard I try, it seems that one car breaks down right after I get another one.
We didn’t have a car, and it wasn’t a big deal because we could take public transit. As for two cars, why do you need two?
So you can go two different places without car pooling. So you have transportation when one car is in the shop. I have 3: PU, MPV, Mustang, all 22+ years old.
Load More Replies...Not having to move every year or 2x a year cause we couldn't afford rent.
I haven't had my own room in many years. I had one as a kid till my parents divorced and then it was couches in the living room with my mom. Now I'm a divorced almost 50 woman living in a 1 bedroom with .y adult daughter who has the bedroom and I sleep in a mattress pad on totes in the dining room/kitchen. 😩
Where I grew up we needed school uniforms. Everyday, come home from school wash the uniform( Shirt, shorts, socks) for the next day and do that for the whole year. If we were lucky we didn't grow in height and were able to use the same uniform for next year ( had lot of stitched patches on the uniform). Looked ridiculous one year wearing shorter clothes. And we had to be very very careful with the shoes.
Same. I wore hand-me-downs/seconds. I did a lot of "rinse-and-dry" b/c even if it wasn't school, I had one set of clothes for warm weather, one for cold, and that was it. When my school changed uniforms, I couldn't use my sister's hand-me-downs anymore. We bought the largest size, and I was stuck looking like a toothpick in a sack for three years.
Load More Replies...My mom washed clothes in a tub with a bar of soap them hung them over the fence to dry. That made socks SSTIFF and HARD which caused blisters on my feet. I preferred going barefoot but that meant stepping on stuff that cut, burned, poked or sliced. Living in Florida the pavement was so hot I literally RAN across pavement on my tiptoes to keep from scalding my feet that were already in pain. So- clean soft socks and shoes that didn’t blister were and remain a must for my daughter and her kids.
Socks, shoes and underwear. No more than 3 o 4 at a time. And jeans. 2 tops. Only basic t shirts that have to be any occasion wearable. Everything second handed. Fashion? Trends? Apropiate size? Flatering clothes? Nice? No way. Only practical and that is it.
Socks, for real. I have to remind myself that I do, in fact, make enough to buy new socks. What a luxury!
I grew up super poor, but my little neighbourhood was grouped into the rich kids school district. So while we never knew if rent would be paid or food available, my friends lived in $700,000 homes and wore $300 shoes. I wish I'd had some poor friends. 😕 Maybe I would have felt a little less shamed.
I know the feeling, and when you forgot to was them sometimes we wore them wet, winter time was brutal.
You can be poor and have friends who aren't poor. What are you talking about?!
When I was in grade school, I was friends with a lot doctors, professors and other "professional people's kids. All was fine until middle school when what you wear, what you brought for lunch, where you lived and , yes, who your parents are mattered.
Load More Replies...A takeaway is a massive treat for me because I grew up not having them. Once a month I get so excited about it I spend three days deciding which food to get.
Same here! I've got my favorite Door Dash guy on speed dial, haha!!! "What a FEELING!"
Load More Replies...Eating out and home delivery. We were living good if we could go to the local pizza shop and get a slice each me, my mom and little brother. And if she had a handful of quarters for video games we were in heaven. My mom lives with me now and you should see he face when we order delivery!
That’s been an issue for me. Our family grew up with takeout and I swear I’m broke because of it now.
Yesterday I commented about getting a walmart in Hilo HI. But it was fuc*ing huge when we got a McDonalds. They serve Ramen noodles there to pander to locals
I am still too cheap to pay for door dash, but I get groceries delivered now, which feels like the height of extravagant luxury to me. The only food I ever get delivered is pizza, because it's free.
This was such a luxury living in a more rural area anyway, and we usually got food from the same place where we knew someone if we did at all
This one needs more votes. My grandmother's house was like that and I cannot imagine having to pee in an unsecured little shed in the dark at night with all the woods creatures!
Some people use potties at night and empty it in the morning (speaking for my grandparents when only outside toilets were available)
Load More Replies...Yeah, no running water for four years. Using a Gatorade bottle to dribble water to shower. Sort of the lack of water usage in a submarine, I guess. Use the shower water collected in a bucket to flush the toilet.
Oh ,Yes that's right I am 80, We didn't have running water my first eight years!AH! Boy, that Well water was sweet and Cold!
That’s my first 7 years. But I were never sick. Then my dad got a job as caretaker of a public house were it sometimes held dances, bingo, meetings e.t.c. Then we got electric heat, running water cold AND hot, indoor closet and a bathtub! Still don’t know how we washed our clothes… maybe a washer in the basement… Then I started to have ear infections, colds and headache. How crazy isn’t that?!
It sucks how the system designed to "save you money" only really applies to people who don't need to save it in the first place
Everything in life is stacked against poor people in the US. They can't afford to stock up, so they miss out on sale items. They often have to pay exorbitant late and overdraft fees from missed or late payments, which gives them a low credit rating, which means any money they have to borrow comes at the highest interest rate. They have no emergency funds, so borrowing money is often the only way to deal with a crises. They usually buy the cheapest things they can find, and the cheapest things need to be replaced the most often. It is almost impossible to ever get ahead when you're playing with a deck stacked against you.
I remember our first clothes dryer. My dad got a kick out of the advertising claim that "Clothes lines are for birds" This put us in the entitled group, now that we had a clothes dryer.
Everything OP mentions is in fact a luxury. In my country only for rich people, no way for someone middle class
A lot of the example's mentioned in the comments are just "American" and not really necessary. So feels like they are whining over things that really ARE luxuries abroad.
Load More Replies...Rags are better than paper towels for many reasons. The environmental benefits should be obvious - yes, believe it or not, A LOT of paper towel and toilet paper is still made from old growth forests which should be criminalized - but also, if you make cleaning rags from old clothes, they are usually lint-free. Best window cleaning kit I have is old t-shirts; no lint at ALL and a lovely clean.
At least in the developed world all paper is made from tree farms. Don't push that non sense. It does use more energy and costs more so if you want to save money use cloth.
Load More Replies...I've been POOR poor ALL my life; my children have AT LEAST neverrr gone w/out but REALLY, that is THE best I can do. I put mySELF thru high school as a trafficked 'runaway' teen, didn't have kids while ALL my peers were ON PURPOSE bc I ain't want them to HAVE to live like this- I even got a scholarship to a prestigious all-girls college (Lesley) and did my BEST to stick w it (even tho I dropped out just shy of my 2nd year being complete) JUST to get the education I'd been promised that would change my life. It's not a easy as it sounds- w NO support system, NO parents, friends, relatives, NOBODY, I ended up trafficked and on drugs, which lead to a lifetime of completing the cycle. It's NOT easy to break free- for me it's PROB not POSSIBLE. THE single most important thing I aint have bc I was poor- DREAMS !! I dared not EV dream of ANYTHING more than my kids not being ALWAYS hungry, ALWAYS raggedy, NEVER happy. My 'dreams' we're to make it to tomorrow, to eat today, to SURVIVE.
Rag towels that were old socks or shirts... I had forgotten about the "rag bucket" of my childhood. Old socks are still the best for cleaning / polishing, just slip one over your hand. And what a luxury to own belongings that need polishing!
Socks make good winter gloves too!
Load More Replies...After summer vacation, the teacher asked everyone to talk about where they went on their vacation. We went nowhere because we had no car and no vacation money. It was so depressing listening to other kids talk about their fabulous summer vacation trips.
I once got in a fight because this girl in 5th grade wouldn't stop bragging about her Disneyland trips and bringing all her gifts to school. I still refuse to go there as it is not affordable for most families. I do feel bad about getting mad at her, it wasn't her fault she so lucky.
Load More Replies...Having an inside bathroom, air conditioning, running water, a car, not having government cheese/powdered eggs/powdered milk, ability to eat dinner without having to go fishing everyday, roof not leaking, new shoes when your old ones starting clicking from every step because the plastic in the heel broke, buying a Christmas gift for the kid you exchanged names with, being skipped over when the teacher asked what did you get for Christmas because they think you didn't get anything and they were mostly right.
Im sorry A/C is not a luxury.. Hot humid stifled heat will make you crazy and is not good for your health
That's you In Canada there are very few deaths attributed to high temperature.
Load More Replies...How about when youre so poor the power companies wont give service anymore to your parents. So the steal your social security number anf make fake accounts in your name . then you find out about it 5 years later. Credits s**t. And only way out is to tell the company the truth.
Huh, I thought I was pretty well off, apparently I have none of these, its normal for me though :v
We couldn't afford disposable diapers and we didn't have a washing machine. I am the oldest of 5 and one of my jobs was washing, wringing and hanging up the cloth diapers to dry.
I’m all for children doing chores but that seems like an extreme and inappropriate chore for a child. Hope your siblings appreciate you!
Load More Replies...Moving to disposable diapers as a cultural norm was great for the diaper companies , but bad for the planet, bad for babies and bad for parent's finances. It makes me so sad to hear about babies sitting in dirty diapers because their parents can't afford clean ones.
My husband thought I was neglectful when I didn't start potty training our first when they turned one, because his mother took pride in the fact that her kids were trained by then because the next child needed the diapers.
To clarify, they have a large family but also fostered and adopted.
Load More Replies...My Mother told me she got a sample box of the new Pampers disposable diapers...about 2 months after I was trained. I remember a cousin from California came and her child always had a full diaper. Never dawned on me that they were probably too broke.
A few that stand out to me: never asking for additional non essential things for school. No field trips, not helping with coin/canned food drives. Consistent housing arrangements, working vehicles, money for groceries, feeling safe. #1 for me was feeling bad for having more than others. I'd feel bad about not having or wanting something and I'd think about other kids at school who were worse off.
For us to live in the riches country to have ever existed sure feels like something is fundamentally wrong here.
Q-Tips and Kleenex have to be name-brand for me…they’re among a very small number of things for which that is true.
I bought Q-Tips because they have cardboard sticks instead of plastic. Roomie made me go back & buy plastic stick generics because Q-Tips are wound too tightly and generics have a larger head.
Load More Replies...Surplus commodities in the US made available to low income households. Cheese, butter, canned pork, peanut butter, juice are common items. OP did not care for the cheese, but it made awesome grilled cheese sandwiches.
Load More Replies...I like to shop at Goodwill just to find deals, but I would hate to have to rely on it, because of course you can't always guarantee that you will be able to find the correct size, let alone whatever style you're looking for! Although to be honest I like a lot of the generic bag cereals better than the name ran ones in the box, plus you get so much more for your money!
Don't forget about the powdered milk. I had to use that in my cereal and it made me to where I don't eat breakfast as an adult. It totally traumatized me lol.
My sheets rarely match even tho I have sets. In my 30s I realized changing for bed often chilled and woke me, that I could wear whatever I wanted to bed so day clothes are night clothes if I want.
Mine too!!! I can just feeeeeel the clicks. I played "store" with it all the time!
Load More Replies...Better than a calculator, which can easily turn off and lose it all. My list is on my phone, and my clicker is in my hand. People swing their heads around when they hear it, and I'm like don't be jealous!
Load More Replies...I am from the Netherlands and we only had one shower for the 4 of us. My Canadian friend was suprised me and my brother didn't have our own bathroom growing up.. having multiple bathrooms is a big luxery here
There were 4 of us and we all shared one toilet and one bathroom, just like every family I've ever known. It never was an issue. Until we were blessed with overnight visitaton of one relative who had unfortunate habit to dominate the throne for like an hour, read the newspapers and completely ignore desperate knocking.
Yes. But I would say. At least one bathroom. A real one with running water, toilet, inside shower AND WALLS.
I believe Nigeria has the highest number of bathrooms per dwelling.
Only 44% of Nigerian households have toilets, USA at 76%; pretty sure US has more per house. Iceland has the highest percent of public toilets.
Load More Replies...I was very lucky on this score because my grandmother loved to sew and made many of my elementary school clothes.
We were lucky that grandma worked in a charity shop and kept an eye out for things we needed
Load More Replies...I had to wear my sister's hand me downs continually and I have terrible foot problems due to wearing shoes that never fit me properly.
Bandaids were our Christmas presents. We got socks or underwear and cool bandaids as our splurge gift. I love bandaids, but as an adult I refuse to pay the high costs for the fancy ones my mom used to buy.
I use it as containers not because I can't afford Tupperware but because these plastics last for ages, so less wastage
I agree not to mention you can get it in all shapes & sizes, & just as safe, solid & reusable as Tupperware™
Load More Replies...Our store packages lunch meat in 2 cup rectangular plastic containers, so my freezer is stacked with dewberries & cherries. Tupperware is overpriced; some pieces last forever. But they are not for microwave cooking (I destroyed the pink rice cooker); for cooking, Pyrex or Anchor because they don't melt.
I had forgotten about that- my grandparents used them all the time, but once my mum left secretary work and became a nurse we began buying actual reusable containers (then another 10 years later she freaked out about 'cancer risk of plastic' and switched to glass (which did mean we had plenty of plastic to take when we moved out).
People aren't cautious enuf. My furnace needs replacing, so I use electric space heaters. Oil radiators are the safest as they don't get hot enough to ignite anything; I keep one running in the bathroom, replaced by forced air quartz for bathing. My quartz heaters have good barriers blocking contact to the elements. The biggest problem is plugging too many into a circuit or using too light an extension cord. I have two 10 gauge and one 12 gauge; 14 gauge is the lightest you should use for a space heater. Always check the plug and outlet for excessive heat; too hot to handle means overload. Also, best if house circuits are copper instead of aluminum.
Load More Replies...Fancy bread with fancy seeds! I loved see them as a child, wondering if they were tomato seed (they were sesame) and if people could grow them to actual more veggies or cereals. Remember clearly the first time I ate my first hamburger in a fancy place with fancy seeded bread... was so happy lost on counting down every seed on the bun. Must have been like 10 or 11 years old. Happiest memory of my childhood.
Capri Sun was mine! 😂 They really aren't great but the rich kids at school always had them in their lunch and I always thought they looked so cool in the silver packaging! Ngl I was a bit let down when I was finally able to afford to buy one and try it. It didn't taste nearly as fancy as it looked.
Potato chips, only for summer picnics. Store cookies & pastries instead of homemade.
I think it's remarkable how subjective poverty is. I never have more than 4 toilet rolls in the house but it's a choice and a reluctance to flush money down the loo.
We had powdered milk once in a while when I was a child, but usually regular milk. A few years ago I was planning to make hot chocolate for my grade's fund-raiser. The tuckshop only made it with water so I was planning on making it a bit nicer (also had to buy halaal mashmallows as I wanted the Muslim kids to be able to get some). I said to my head of department that I was going to add powdered milk. She said, "What's powdered milk?" (We both grew up during apartheid but I'm older. I'm ethnically white; she's ethnically Indian. She's the only person from here I've ever met who didn't know what powdered milk was.)
My mum usually used the powdered milk for adding to soup, pet food, baking and we had regular milk for things like cereal and hot chocolate. When I was in year 11 & 12 we had a common room with kettles etc but most of the time there was no milk, so I took powdered milk mixed with milo- it wasn't great but I added sugar and it was okay.
Load More Replies...What is the point of a garbage disposal? I've never had one and will likely never have one
I never got it either. It takes perfectly good compostable material and puts it into a sewerage system that's not designed for treating that sort of stuff.
Load More Replies...I've never used a bidet (though I've had the opportunity), but I know some people swear by them... It just never really appealed to me, you know?
My secret(ish) fantasy is having a bathroom that has a proper bidet but I know they can use a lot of water so I just stick with the small bottle specifically for tap water to rinse off when needed to feel extra squeaky clean
Washcloth works. Or baby wipes if you don't mind the trash.
Load More Replies...Sewing supplies all the time :-D I remember once in my whole childhood tasting the real cookies from this box... and I was so disappointed with the taste :-D and other than that... sewing supplies and home made rubber bands from old tire tube...
I've heard people mention that and I think my grandma had one tin with them in, but they also had one with the real stuff. My mum always had these tins to put homemade biscuits in as it was cheaper than bought ones, usually ANZACs because oats are cheap.
Load More Replies...yeah i don't like "real" maple syrup b/c we always had the fake kind.
Load More Replies...My friend from Vermont orders his well before harvest to guarantee that he gets any and at a good price. We did him a kindness once and he makes sure we don't run out.
I live in a place in the US where maple syrup is not too much more expensive than fake syrup, sorry Canadians. 😉 yours is still better, though
Real maple syrup is about 6x the price of imitation in Australia. I can't really have imitation anymore because I don't process the sugar well, so I have been buying the real stuff, but I have to ration it because it's so expensive!
Chapstick for your chapped lips. A bra when you need it and not three years later. Deodorant, haircuts, pencils, pens, paper, folders, and other school supplies. Decent winter coat.
Do people not grow their own veg? Most poorer folks I know do because its cheaper than buying from the store and then they can/ store it to get through the winter. I can see my neighbors have already started their plants on the windowsill for this years gardens.
If you live in an inner city apartment you're not likely to have anywhere to grow veg.
Load More Replies...I really hate reading these comments. Children going without healthy food, shoeless, cold. It just pisses me off and makes me feel inadequate for some reason, as if I should do more to help.
If you're in the US and you want to do more to help, voting for better social care, higher minimum wage, better child care options, free health care and dental etc. Would be huge. For these people imagine how much not having to pay the money for insurance or copayments would help them. They wouldn't have to make decisions between taking their kid to the doctor or buy food/new clothes.
Load More Replies...And there are people out there that think everyone has access to healthy food to this day. They have no idea how hard people struggle. Even though my mom was a single parent I was so fortunate to have family that helped her. I never went without. I do remember the constant moving though that was not fun. 12 different schools. One I only went to for 3 days.
That must have been tough K Witmer. Changing schools so often leaves you without real friends. Hugs (not one but 2 !)
Load More Replies...My mum used to get flour bags from the baker (they were made of cloth back then) and make bed sheets from them. Funny, I never thought we were poor, we were loved, kept warm and fed.
There's I think a difference between poor - not able to afford sheets and new clothes and poor - going hungry. For me it would be living without heating. I hate the cold but I had a nice childhood and didn't lack a thing. Not rich but not poor. I do remember my mother feeding some neighbourhood kids tho who were poor and hungry. I sometimes watched as she opened my cupboard and gave some of my clothes to these kids.
Load More Replies...For me it really comes down to parents paying attention to my needs. Also regular doctor/dentist visits. I don't think I went to either for about 10 years (from divorce until adulthood). Wearing shoes til they fell apart. There were a couple years I needed glasses but didn't say anything because I decided it would be too much of a burden for mom. That reminds me, being aware of my mom's financial struggles and minimizing my needs to be less of a burden was a thing for me. The new one for me is mental health treatment. That is such a luxury. As a teenager, I had all the signs of depression but no one paying enough attention to help me out, and I didn't know how to help myself.
This one hit hard. I remember going to bed at night as a KID and worrying about bills. Knowing how my asking for something would affect moms stress at having to figure out a way to make it happen. My husband said he asked his parents once how much they made and they said, "none of your business " I couldn't fathom that bc I always knew my mom's budget and that she was robbing peter to pay Paul alot. It's still a joke to this day that I've had about 5 grandfather's die in my life bc of excuses she used to tell the bill collectors. Lol. But she worked her ass off and we never went without our NEEDS. Some of our best Christmases we're when we didn't have much bc we had each other.
Load More Replies...This is going to sound like "Oh, but when I was a child!" But what some who wasn't around back then don't realise, is that poverty then isn't the same as poverty today. The difference is enormous! (From a European aspect.) Today I live under what is considered as the poverty line. But I have food everyday, a roof over my head with my name on the contract, clothes without patches. Things that were mere dream's for some in the 60's and 70's when I grew up. And still is in many parts of the world. Ok we weren't poor, poor. But enough to still use frugal little tricks and stretch money as far as they will go. Something I'm grateful to know. And am happy to share with young friends that are struggling because their parent's never had to learn how and can't pass on.
As an American, I thought I knew what poverty was until I traveled to another country. "America poor" is still rich in many countries. I remember the first trip, I came home and kissed everything I owned!
Load More Replies...I remember having to boil pots of water if I wanted to bathe, and having to carry the pot up the stairs to where the bathroom was. Definitely managed to trip once and poured it all over myself, and ooh those burns.
I grew up lower middlish class, i had clothes and food and the best parents I could ever ask for. Due to stupidity & bad decisions when I was younger I am now a 41 yrs. old homeless male in Detroit mi. And stay most nights in a abandoned house with no electricity, gas or water. The one thing I never thought I would ever even think how bad I miss not having 24/7 access to is a toilet. Just being able to sit down while doing #2. Sorry for being gross but it's life lol
I'm sorry you're going through that. Running water is a huge deal, and I completely understand how rough it is not having that. We lived in a trailer once with no running water, so we (five of us) went to the bathroom in a bucket for around six months until my folks could find a better place. I wish you luck, friend.
Load More Replies...i was always jealous of kids who could afford snacks like fruit snacks, oreos, and chips. we only got home made snacks or fruit. which, as an adult, i miss my mum's cookie and brownies and pies, but as a kid, i had them so often i took it for granted and wanted the packaged stuff.
Hah I would have loved homemade snacks! We had no snacks and my parents both worked LONG hours to give us what we had.
Load More Replies...Wanna cry? Growing up poor on a reservation. No running water, no power, no toilet, walking to school barefoot and sharing a pair of shoes with your sis in the winter. Having to steal from neighbours gardens so you can eat (waiting 3-4 days to eat makes you desperate) sharing 2 shirts, one pair of pants and a handmade jacket with your sis. A father who worked but spent all his check on prostitutes, gambling and beer. Never knowing what ice cream tastes like until your 18. Christmas? Birthdays? Forget it
Ya, no reason to grow up poor on a res. Unless your parents are squandering those checks.
Load More Replies...In my kindergarden was a girl which wore the same outfit nearly every day. I thought it's not special, since characters in cartoons also wore the same clothes every episode. It's not as bad as not enough food, but it still bothers me that i didn't see it back then.
It is amazing how little that sort of thing can matter to a very young child anyway. It is only when they begin to experience more and have more adult influence that children begin to get critical of what they/others are wearing. I love that you related it to cartoon characters though :)
Load More Replies...I really hate reading these comments. Children going without healthy food, shoeless, cold. It just pisses me off and makes me feel inadequate for some reason, as if I should do more to help.
If you're in the US and you want to do more to help, voting for better social care, higher minimum wage, better child care options, free health care and dental etc. Would be huge. For these people imagine how much not having to pay the money for insurance or copayments would help them. They wouldn't have to make decisions between taking their kid to the doctor or buy food/new clothes.
Load More Replies...And there are people out there that think everyone has access to healthy food to this day. They have no idea how hard people struggle. Even though my mom was a single parent I was so fortunate to have family that helped her. I never went without. I do remember the constant moving though that was not fun. 12 different schools. One I only went to for 3 days.
That must have been tough K Witmer. Changing schools so often leaves you without real friends. Hugs (not one but 2 !)
Load More Replies...My mum used to get flour bags from the baker (they were made of cloth back then) and make bed sheets from them. Funny, I never thought we were poor, we were loved, kept warm and fed.
There's I think a difference between poor - not able to afford sheets and new clothes and poor - going hungry. For me it would be living without heating. I hate the cold but I had a nice childhood and didn't lack a thing. Not rich but not poor. I do remember my mother feeding some neighbourhood kids tho who were poor and hungry. I sometimes watched as she opened my cupboard and gave some of my clothes to these kids.
Load More Replies...For me it really comes down to parents paying attention to my needs. Also regular doctor/dentist visits. I don't think I went to either for about 10 years (from divorce until adulthood). Wearing shoes til they fell apart. There were a couple years I needed glasses but didn't say anything because I decided it would be too much of a burden for mom. That reminds me, being aware of my mom's financial struggles and minimizing my needs to be less of a burden was a thing for me. The new one for me is mental health treatment. That is such a luxury. As a teenager, I had all the signs of depression but no one paying enough attention to help me out, and I didn't know how to help myself.
This one hit hard. I remember going to bed at night as a KID and worrying about bills. Knowing how my asking for something would affect moms stress at having to figure out a way to make it happen. My husband said he asked his parents once how much they made and they said, "none of your business " I couldn't fathom that bc I always knew my mom's budget and that she was robbing peter to pay Paul alot. It's still a joke to this day that I've had about 5 grandfather's die in my life bc of excuses she used to tell the bill collectors. Lol. But she worked her ass off and we never went without our NEEDS. Some of our best Christmases we're when we didn't have much bc we had each other.
Load More Replies...This is going to sound like "Oh, but when I was a child!" But what some who wasn't around back then don't realise, is that poverty then isn't the same as poverty today. The difference is enormous! (From a European aspect.) Today I live under what is considered as the poverty line. But I have food everyday, a roof over my head with my name on the contract, clothes without patches. Things that were mere dream's for some in the 60's and 70's when I grew up. And still is in many parts of the world. Ok we weren't poor, poor. But enough to still use frugal little tricks and stretch money as far as they will go. Something I'm grateful to know. And am happy to share with young friends that are struggling because their parent's never had to learn how and can't pass on.
As an American, I thought I knew what poverty was until I traveled to another country. "America poor" is still rich in many countries. I remember the first trip, I came home and kissed everything I owned!
Load More Replies...I remember having to boil pots of water if I wanted to bathe, and having to carry the pot up the stairs to where the bathroom was. Definitely managed to trip once and poured it all over myself, and ooh those burns.
I grew up lower middlish class, i had clothes and food and the best parents I could ever ask for. Due to stupidity & bad decisions when I was younger I am now a 41 yrs. old homeless male in Detroit mi. And stay most nights in a abandoned house with no electricity, gas or water. The one thing I never thought I would ever even think how bad I miss not having 24/7 access to is a toilet. Just being able to sit down while doing #2. Sorry for being gross but it's life lol
I'm sorry you're going through that. Running water is a huge deal, and I completely understand how rough it is not having that. We lived in a trailer once with no running water, so we (five of us) went to the bathroom in a bucket for around six months until my folks could find a better place. I wish you luck, friend.
Load More Replies...i was always jealous of kids who could afford snacks like fruit snacks, oreos, and chips. we only got home made snacks or fruit. which, as an adult, i miss my mum's cookie and brownies and pies, but as a kid, i had them so often i took it for granted and wanted the packaged stuff.
Hah I would have loved homemade snacks! We had no snacks and my parents both worked LONG hours to give us what we had.
Load More Replies...Wanna cry? Growing up poor on a reservation. No running water, no power, no toilet, walking to school barefoot and sharing a pair of shoes with your sis in the winter. Having to steal from neighbours gardens so you can eat (waiting 3-4 days to eat makes you desperate) sharing 2 shirts, one pair of pants and a handmade jacket with your sis. A father who worked but spent all his check on prostitutes, gambling and beer. Never knowing what ice cream tastes like until your 18. Christmas? Birthdays? Forget it
Ya, no reason to grow up poor on a res. Unless your parents are squandering those checks.
Load More Replies...In my kindergarden was a girl which wore the same outfit nearly every day. I thought it's not special, since characters in cartoons also wore the same clothes every episode. It's not as bad as not enough food, but it still bothers me that i didn't see it back then.
It is amazing how little that sort of thing can matter to a very young child anyway. It is only when they begin to experience more and have more adult influence that children begin to get critical of what they/others are wearing. I love that you related it to cartoon characters though :)
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