There are a lot of weird dishes to experience in this world — some of which could deliver a swift food culture shock for the person eating it. Every person and culture is unique in how food is prepared and eaten. Cultural food is the perfect example representing the people who create and eat it. However, some dishes are so strange that when foreigners experience them, a shock might happen to their understanding of the food.
Before judging, you have to experience the food culture first. If you are a fan of Pulp Fiction (1994), you might remember how mayonnaise and French fries, one of the European weird food combos, were talked about. But judging from the people who have tried it, it’s good, even better sometimes. If a person is one to critique different food cultures, it’s important to remember the rule of strange dishes — they might not be so disgusting when you taste them and close your eyes.
So, if you're trying to learn more about the many types of food cultures that might shock you — look no further than the list below. We compiled a lot of strange, tasty, and slightly unusual food combos that delivered quite a shock to the people eating them. If the answer intrigues your taste buds, leave an upvote on it so that others can see it faster. On the other hand, if you’ve had a shocking food-related moment, share it in the comments below.
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"If I remember right, my first foreign country I visit was when I went to Hong Kong. I think the first big culture shock (and a pleasant one) was going into a restaurant and none of the patrons were speaking very much and definitely not speaking loud enough to be heard at another table. It was magnificent and ruined restaurants in America for me forever."
SirDolphin said:
"In America people boil the water for their tea.... in the microwave."
bizitmap replied:
"Americans make tea by throwing it in Boston harbor."
McBeaster said:
"I asked for a bottle of water in Iceland. The guy just shakes his head and goes "you don't need that" and filled me up a cup from the tap."
Auferstehen78 replied:
"We were told to save the bottles from our flight and just fill from the taps. It was the best water."
Tap water in Iceland is wonderful. So are the heated sidewalks and dozens of other things that make Iceland a great place to visit.
"Beer as a combo meal option at McDonald’s.
The BEST difference were the free tapas in Madrid. Order a drink, and they bring you free food. Everything from delicious olives to cheese to marinated mushrooms to bread to this one dish... it looked like cold potato salad but it wasn’t because it was actually delicious. Even better, really really good Spanish wine could be had for 2 euros a glass. But yeah, go bar hopping, eat all the free food, and you can skip dinner. The one weird thing is that all these bars would be lit up like an American diner would be in the morning. I’m used to bars in the US, which tend to be very dark."
wristconstraint said:
"In USA tipping. And not just tipping, but tipping so much that the entire thing I bought (e.g. a meal) is now in an entirely higher price bracket."
Joessandwich replied:
"Many of us in the US hate it as well. I’d prefer people be paid a living wage and not reliant on my “generosity” that is supposedly tied to their level of service (which it really isn’t, most people have a standard percentage they tip regardless of service."
I'm a very good tipper, always have been. But having an Ipad shoved in my face by a person doing nothing but handing me a coffee, is changing my thoughts about it.
"Oh I love telling this story. So my wife is Japanese. On my first trip over to meet her mother, she invited us out to a yakitori restaurant to meet a few of her friends. Now I don't speak much Japanese, maybe I can understand about 15% of what's going on, and the man next to me, her mother's friend, spoke no English at all but when he offered me a cup of sake I gratefully accepted, said 'kanpai,' and emptied the cup. He diligently refilled it. I accepted once more and emptied the cup. He refilled it. We did this quite a few more times until I turned to my wife and told her "I think this guy is trying to get me drunk! He keeps offering me more and more sake!" To which she replied "Stop drinking it, idiot, if you drink it all he has to refill it!" It seems as though my efforts to be polite (finishing what was offered to me) were actually contrary to what was polite in Japan; leaving a little of what was offered to show that you are satisfied. Once I left a little in the cup the man quietly paid and quickly left, no doubt with a sizable bar tab!"
No one ever told me to do this, but I always leave a little bit of drink in my glass when I'm at a bar. My crazy brain reasoned that it's "for the faeries." I never do it at home, though. Weird.
"The stands and restaurants in Germany where you basically have to hike in. There's no casual foot traffic and it's not a simple drive. You are hiking and come to a beautiful view and there's a little restaurant or stand where you can get wine or beer and wurst and fries or whatever. Then you sit and enjoy the view you hiked to while enjoying your delicious food and excellent beverage. It's fantastic."
"I was watching American Hells kitchen and they said that Americans don't use butter or Margarine in their sandwiches. As a Brit, that doesn't make any sense."
Not sure why they would say that, a lot of people use butter on sandwiches here, it just depends on the filling
gobroncoz said:
"I moved to Italy as a 10 year old. My mom gave me some money to buy some candy right when we landed. The candy I chose had a not insignificant amount of alcohol in it. Which didn't stop anyone from selling it to a 10 year old kid."
InsertBluescreenHere replied:
"Ate one of them at work I got in a gift basket thing at home. Did not know about the booze inside. Was lightly sucking on it at lunch then got hit with the whiskey suprise which made me cough and chew which made my office and breath smell like a bar. The supervisor was like what uhh you have for lunch. I explained and showed him the foil and he just lost it laughing saying he's done the same."
A very common candy treat sold in Italian bars was the "Boero", a dark chocolate praline with a maraschino cherry and plenty of liquid rum-based liquor inside. It was not unusual for 14 year old kids to buy it, but generally it was not sold to younger ones; it was kind of a rite of passage. Traditionally, the candy wrapping contained a ticket that could grant you more candies, or even larger prizes. So you bought a Boero for the equivalent of like 25 cents, and at worst you won another one, but you could also walk away with 10 other candies, or -if you were lucky- something like a pen, a lighter, a sport watch or even a power tool!
landob said:
"When I went to Japan. When I ordered from food from any type of chain that is also in USA like McDonald's, Denny's, Burger King, it looked like the picture on the menu or the commercial. It was truly bizarre. Like in the USA if you get a Big Mac it looks nothing like the picture or in the commercials. When You get a big mac in japan... it looks like the one in the picture. It's like somebody back there was painstakingly putting that burger together perfectly."
User No 2 replied:
"My dad had the opposite reaction when we moved to America. We ordered a double cheeseburger which was squashed & he earnestly complained to the manager, like some minimum wage worker was going to perfect it."
"Studied in France and I was shocked to see the Cafés turn into bars at night. They just switched out the menu and it went from selling hot cocoa to whiskey on the rocks!"
SirKendizzle said:
"Not eating your national animal in USA. Kangaroos are bloody delicious."
xRamenator replied:
"Well, there aren't that many bald eagles flying around here in the US."
ItsACaragor said:
"Spray cheese. I was not ready."
BucketOSkrimp replied:
"In a good or bad way? I've met two kinds of people on this subject: those who absolutely detest it, and those who will spray the whole can straight into their mouths."
ItsACaragor also replied:
"We were four guys from France, we bought one to experiment and it’s just disgusting even when lowering our expectations as much as we could."
"Drink sizes in Korea. I went to McDonald's or some other American fast food restaurant and order a meal with the regular medium drink size and out comes an American small cup. Cursed the small drink sizes as I would finish my drink before the food. Canned sodas at convenience stores were also smaller. Felt like I was getting ripped off. But I soon realized that those small sizes were what my body actually needed - I don't need a 16oz or 32oz soda alone or with a meal. American portion sizes are huge."
Antihistimine said:
"Not a serious one, but going to Europe for the first time and being shocked at tiny bottles of coke, that are generally warm and you don't get any ice! Coming from that free refill life and ice in everything I was traumatized."
Pinglenook replied:
"I don't think I've ever been to a restaurant anywhere in Europe that served me a warm soft drink. No ice, sure, or 2-3 ice cubes in stead of the cup full of ice you'd get in the USA, but the drink is always refrigerated."
"Whenever I would visit family around France I always had to remind myself of food customs. It's pretty rare you'll just sit down have a quick meal and continue with your day. Food is meant to be enjoyed so you take your time, a lot of local businesses particularly shops close around midday to accommodate for this so get comfortable. (not all shops do this, but it's best to just eat midday if you visit)."
"In USA not being legally allowed to drink until you're 21, as an Irish teenager I laugh at you."
When I was a teenager the legal drinking age was 18. I was able to drink wine or beer with my family before that, so I rarely felt like doing it elsewhere. At some point they raised the drinking age to 20 then soon after that it became 21. My poor sister kept missing being legal!
"My dad was working in the states, one day he was eating out with some of his colleagues. When the waiter came and asked if he wanted a doggie bag, he said "no I didn't bring my dog with me from Denmark." They laugh their a**es off!"
Anodracs said:
"The sheer awesomeness of Japanese convenience stores. My local 7-11 has sticky floors and doubtful looking packaged sandwiches. The 7-11s in Japan are clean, well-lit, have a great selection of lunch/dinner prepackaged meals, and not only do they have a cold drink section, they have a special heated unit for hot drinks. When I saw all the technological innovations in Japan, I felt like I came from a third world country."
bread_berries replied:
"And there's SO MANY CONVIENENCE STORES, like it's not uncommon you can just SEE three Family Marts without even trying. The flipside is it's so easy to go out and eat or get food because (at least in the city) space is tiny. Our airbnb's "kitchen" was a thin cabinet in the corner with a small sink and an electric kettle, with a cabinet for bowls and glasses. There was no room for any more."
"I'm from USA and I had a gaming friend from England and I told him I was going to have breakfast at the pancake house. I told him I was getting Apple Waffles he didn't believe me at first. He found out via internet and was shocked that we at dessert for breakfast."
ListenOrElse_ said:
"In USA people pay for their own food. As someone who came from China, where everyone fights for the bill without the intention to pay, this is very refreshing."
Coke_and_Tacos replied:
"This is a generational thing I think. If my parents are out with a group of folks their age (mid-60's) it's a whole thing that everyone wants to cover the check, "alright, well I'm buying next time!" Etc. Everyone I know within 10 years of my age just assumes they're paying their own way and it makes way more sense to me."
"I was teaching a class in South Carolina (I live in Minnesota) and sat down to eat lunch with all the guys I was teaching. Took a bite of my sandwich and noticed no one else was eating yet. I paused for a minute and one of them piped in that they were ready to say grace. I had never experienced group prayer before lunch, especially in the workplace. Definitely a shock for me."
Happened to me at a damn'd BUSINESS LUNCH. We were a bit baffled and just went through it waiting and trying to suppress any comment. But I am aware it's not a very common thing, the guys were a bunch of loonies anyway and this was not even the worst they did in that lunch alone.
"I have lived in both Finland and the USA. Once I woke up in the middle of the day after a house party. I got up and found peanut butter in a cabinet and Jam in the fridge. As I started making a class PB&J the other people in the house surrounded me and gave me a face of confusion. Someone asked me "wait.. you are really going to eat that?". I guess people in Finland do not eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.. they all thought the idea was gross."
"Watching children in Mexico happily eating crickets like they were popcorn.
Also, 4 or 5 year old kids out at 10pm to sell gum."
"Visiting family in New England and the South made me realise that casual alcoholism isn't the norm. In Wisconsin, just about every event has alcohol involved at some point. It took me a while to realise that showing up with a six pack everytime I visited made me look like I had a problem, when I thought it was just common courtesy."
You should try olde England. Any excuse for a p**s up over here :-)
"Just how late the Spanish eat dinner. Totally respect it, but I was hungry at 6pm and was shocked no restaurant was open to serve at that time."
Spain is basically in the wrong timezone. When European Union timezones were formalized, dictator Francisco Franco pressured to have Spain put in the same timezone as Paris, Rome, Berlin [edit: not London] etc, despite technically being closer to the Portuguese timezone. His intention was to create a stronger bond with the central Europe economy. This led to the people maintaining their habits despite now being all *technically* moved forward one hour.
maweenurr said:
"Apparently, eating pizza with your hands is disgusting to those who live in Spain. My professor said the group that studied abroad over there almost got kicked out of a restaurant for it."
Naive_set replied:
"I eat anything that doesn't fall apart with my hands, usually while standing. - American."
jb20x6 said:
"Taco Tuesday is not a universal concept."
Postingwordsonreddit replied:
"In Sweden we usually go with Taco Friday. Tuesdays is traditionally for potato pancakes and pork."
"A very small thing: when in theatre in London they sell ice cream at intermission. That's so small yet such a change.
**I meant live theatre. It's absolutely wonderful that you can have ice cream at the movies, and you can on the West End. But no such thing exists on Broadway sadly."
ttowntara said:
"I have lived abroad for 6 years, every time I go back to visit the states, I am taken aback by the amount of food in the supermarkets. Compared to smaller markets/stores in Europe or Asia it's a big change. I always think... how are there so many different types of products and out-of-season fruits or vegetables? The store is so big, how do they sell all of it?!"
haleykoike replied:
"The variety of things at the supermarket was a big shock too. I remember wanting orange juice and just standing there confused how there were more than 20 different kinds of orange juice."
The aisles in the picture are super wide! Two carts barely have room to pass at my local Kroger
Cuhcs13 said:
"Beer. Beer in the vending machines. Just sitting there unsupervised for me and my 14 year old self to spend change on.
**In Spain. Madrid is the one I remember best."
Redditor replied:
"I grew up on the Mexican border in Texas. There were beer machines in Juarez, Mexico. When I got old enough (15 or so) we'd go across on weekends and bar hop. Beer was 25 cents, shots were 15 cents. You could get a ham sandwich with cheese and avocado on a bolillo (a chewy roll) for 25 cents. Live sex shows in the bars. It was a trip. It was always a bit edgy, but now Juarez is one of the most dangerous cities in the world, with an estimated 10 murders per day, so those carefree days of high school debauchery and long gone."
Yes, we generally have a more positive attitude towards alcohol. At 15 it is not unusual to be allowed to taste wine or beer at a family dinner. We really don't like making it a super prohibited -thus super cool- thing, it's something that is a part of your diet and you should not abuse. Know your limits, maybe test them in a safe environments, and learn to manage.
Northern-Nurse said:
"Being in Japan, seeing vending machines everywhere and even ordering food at a vending machine in a noodle restaurant. Then you go sit at a booth with a curtain in front of you and they pass your food through the curtain and then close the blinds. Strange but not a bad experience. Just different. Also the jet lag of an opposite time zone can be brutal."
cronin98 replied:
"I couldn't believe how bad jet lag was from North America to Asia. You get hungry, but your body rejects the food because it thinks it's 3 am and you're going to regret that midnight snack!"
Flying from Chicago to Papeete, Tahiti, I couldn't sleep and my husband couldn't wake up. Repeated going from Papeete to Sydney. All told, I spent four days by myself. I managed just fine.
brigidsbollix said:
"Root beer."
tequilaearworm replied:
"The thing I as an American don't understand is how foreigners hate root beer. Everything else I understand. Too much sugar, hate tipping culture, portion size, but I don't know what foreigners are tasting because they are United on this one. At least you're decent enough to recognize the root beer float is amazing."
It tastes like that red cough syrup you'd get given as a kid - I was so excited to try it and so very very disappointed
"I'm an American and I live in Japan and one habit I had to break quickly was my habit of pointing with my chopsticks. Sorry!"
also in Japan it is a faux pas to rub your chopsticks together, as that implies they are made from cheap wood and you are getting rid of splinters.
"Eating pizza without utensils in USA. I'm Brazilian but I've lived almost my entire life in NA and when I went back to Brazil and went to go eat pizza, a bunch of people were giving me weird looks."
Moots_point said:
"When I ordered some French fries in Germany, and the guy drowned them in mayonnaise before serving them to me, it changed my world."
PositiveChi replied:
"I did this last month. Ate more mayo in 4 days than I have in the rest of my life combined. Delicious but I can't let myself keep doing that now that I'm back in a country where you need to drive places instead of walk."
"Thinking of Southeast Asia, street food, and wide selections of fresh tropical fruits like mangosteen, lychee and longans, for cheap."
NMelton88 said:
"Apparently in USA sweet tea is only in the states, and mainly in the Southern states."
snorlz replied:
"I'm not sure how to describe it but sweet tea in the south definitely tastes different than iced tea or other teas I've had. Its just a particular kind I think but the way its made and served makes it taste different. I had some at my friends house down south and it was the best thing ever. The canned "sweet tea" you can buy doesnt taste remotely close."
My southern grandmother said the secret to good sweet tea is adding the sugar when the tea is still hot, stirring it until completely dissolved, then adding water and ice to the desired dilution. Also, it doesn't take much sugar to sweeten it. Too many commercial brands are way too sweet.
TGTickleGames said:
"Went into a Greggs down south and asked for a meat and potato pasty. Woman looked at me with confusion and disgust like I'd slapped a child. Worst 4 years of my life living down south."
Octavya360 replied:
"We eat Pasties in Michigan. They’re basically like a pot pie, except the crust is folded over like a sandwich so you can eat it with your hands. They’re usually filled with ground beef or venison, potatoes, onions or turnips and carrots. Wives of miners and loggers packed them in their husbands lunchboxes because they were very portable and a hearty tasty meal to keep you going during a long day of manual labor."
Sarnick18 said:
"Not mine but in college I had a roommate from Australia who was studying abroad in America. We went out to dinner one night and I got mozzarella sticks. He could not believe we just deep fried cheese and then eat it."
poopellar replied:
"I was watching an American tv channel and it was showing the scenes around some carnival in some town and my jaw dropped at the food that was being served. It seemed like the only thing that differentiated the various food stands was what was being deep friend at each one. I think they even deep fried a donut."
hanatwothree said:
"Born in Korea, moved to US when I was 6. Realized pizza and hamburgers and hotdogs aren't the only things Americans eat."
dodecadan replied:
"We eat other american food too, like tacos and sushi."
"Going to America and realising almost no one has kettles for making a cup of tea."
"I'm Canadian, but when I went on a school trip to France and Italy I had a classmate who complained at every single place we ate that they didn't have chicken fingers and fries on the menu."
Oburcuk said:
"I realized how many freebies we get in the US. Free refills, as much ketchup as you want in fast food places, free toilets, etc. in Europe, you have to pay for everything. I got used to it."
leona121 replied:
"I remember my first time I went to Europe (Poland) and had to take a crap and didn't have any money on me. That sucked. Also, I remember while out drinking, a fellow traveler asked me for money because she was about to piss her pants."
C'mon, enough with this toilet obsession... In Europe most public toilets require require a coin or small payment, sure. That for the cleaning and supplies, and they are generally preferred to free ones. Free public toilets exists too, but the quality standard may not be very high. Most importantly, any store open to public is required by law to have a publicly accessible toilet, that may or may not -depending on the operator- be reserved only for clients. So if you need a free toilet just go to any bar and maybe have a quick coffee, else go to any fast food, supermarket, large store etc and there it is, your freely available toilet.
KamikazeAlpaca1 said:
"In America eating extremely sugary deserts for breakfast. Doughnuts, most cereals, pop tarts, all contain huge amounts of sugar and often little nutrition. There is literally Oreo cookie cereal kids eat for breakfast."
iceunelle replied:
"I'll be honest, I don't know any adults who actually eat super sugary cereals or donuts or anything like that in the US. As a kid I definitely at Cookie Crisp and Fruit loops sometimes, which is 100% sugar."
Oreo cereal is disgusting. What you gotta do is mix in some crumbled Oreos with a bowl of Cheerios.
"Asking me how I'd like my hamburger cooked in USA."
You really shouldn't eat ground meat that isn't fully cooked all the way through
SpaniardCooks said:
"German men don't chat while they eat."
superduck231 replied:
"In my experience no Germans do, they eat really fast and you talk when you are done eating. It makes a lot of sense to me, but it was kind of shocking when I first got there."
earstorm said:
"As a Czech person, my American wife was blown away that we let kids in pubs or bars."
HelenaKelleher replied:
"To be honest, I do like being in "adult-only" spaces in American bars. they're allowed in every pub and bar? In the US, honestly, probably has a lot more to do with "since our drinking age is so high, we want to keep teens from stealing people's unfinished drinks," but the bonus of being able to smoke on a bar patio without gassing some kids (i never smoke near children) is a nice benefit."
We let them in, but it does not mean we sell them alcohol. You must be over 18 to buy alcohol. If you're younger, you can go to bar, but they sell you only non-alcoholic drinks.
"I love America, but after non-stop traveling abroad for a few years there are a few things I wish we had back at home. Public drinking. They have it in Japan, and I really loved it when I was in Korea. Seoul is a beautiful city where people like to hang out into the wee hours of the morning drinking, eating fried chicken, and playing music on a well-lit lawn."
User No 1 said:
"I visited Albania and there wasn't a single chain store or restaurant. That may sound banal but it was a strange experience to be in a large city and be completely unable to get a McDonald's, Subway, KFC or Starbucks."
mixmatch1122 replied:
"Similar in Bosnia although McDonalds opened 5-6 years ago IIRC. It's just that the local fast foods are much better and cheaper."
"Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwiches are rare outside the US."
"Every State I have been too, (Florida, Nevada, California, Arizona) never have white vinegar out on the table at restaurants. White vinegar in Canada is used on tons of stuff but when you ask for it in the states you get looked at like you have ten heads. Also have no idea if real people in America actually do this but on American talk shows whenever a guest is introduced they exchange a kiss on the cheek. That is the weirdest thing ever."
I have a big bottle of white vinegar. It's in my garage, with my other cleaning supplies.
howwouldiknow-- said:
"The different kinds of flavors for beverages. I was overwhelmed by the sheer number of options. Just so you guys know, I enjoyed having multiple options, until I came to the US I had no idea I liked Blue Raspberry flavored soda and I found out that I liked to mix different kinds of sodas from the fountain and make a cocktail soda occasionally.
Edit: Also, I like how you guys have a s**t ton of flavors for your alcohol. I liked a lot of them but to be honest I didn't enjoy the whipped cream flavored stuff."
Substantial-Ad-7406 replied:
"There's a market in my downtown area that has an entire section of craft sodas. A pop for any flavor you can think of. Even bacon... I don't recommend that one..."
And in the south, coke is the same thing as soda or pop. "I'll have a coke, please". What flavor? Orange, root beer, Sprite, mountain dew?
"How much people drink beer in the Czech Republic. You cannot get a non alcoholic drink in a bar cheaper than a beer. And then I looked it up and low and behold, the Czech's have the highest beer consumption in the whole world."
I think this is changing, as people get more health conscious/into fitness, but my grandad has non-alcoholic beer for lunch every day - it comes in a liter plastic bottle. I think people are also expanding into wine instead of beer. Finally, Czechia has a really strict limit of blood alcohol and driving - i don't know offhand if it's actually zero or just really close. Like zero drinks. ...and in many neighboring countries at least the beer is cheaper than water or juice.
wuroh7 said:
"Tipping in general is taboo in Japan. They see it as an insult."
RoosterClan replied:
"As a former waiter, I detested whenever I had Japanese customers because they never left any tip. European tourists as well because they customarily only tip 8-10% as opposed to 17-20% Americans tip."
Maybe should detest American law makers instead, who allow employers to not pay their workers and instead place the responsibility for that on the generosity if customers?
"Entrees. Entree means starter in the rest of the world, calling it the main course is confusing and willful ignorance at this point. US fast food is amazing and totally explains 3."
When visiting my wife's family in Denmark, in the middle of winter, starting the day with a Gammel Dansk. It's a schnapps and 45% alcohol. I love Denmark and I love Gammel Dansk now but it takes a bit of getting used to - especially at 7.30am
I learned very fast visiting the US to NOT clean my plate. I just ate until I was full. Visiting the supermarket, I was very fascinated with the colours of foods, colours you wouldn't find in europe (mostly sweets). A ready meal only containing potatoes and meat and enough meat to last me 2 days (I had only a microwave but hen, also that, a hotel room with a microwave). Once was behind Russians at an unlimited buffet and their plates literally contained a tower of food. Admittedly, they only went once but that sufficed to almost clearing the buffet. As this was on a river boat, our time was limited and we left hungry.
My culture shock when visiting Canada was that pretty much no one knew what I meant when I asked for lactose free milk. No other options either, like soy or almond. Only found it at Starbucks, which I had only ventured into on one of my last days because nothing else much whas open.
When visiting my wife's family in Denmark, in the middle of winter, starting the day with a Gammel Dansk. It's a schnapps and 45% alcohol. I love Denmark and I love Gammel Dansk now but it takes a bit of getting used to - especially at 7.30am
I learned very fast visiting the US to NOT clean my plate. I just ate until I was full. Visiting the supermarket, I was very fascinated with the colours of foods, colours you wouldn't find in europe (mostly sweets). A ready meal only containing potatoes and meat and enough meat to last me 2 days (I had only a microwave but hen, also that, a hotel room with a microwave). Once was behind Russians at an unlimited buffet and their plates literally contained a tower of food. Admittedly, they only went once but that sufficed to almost clearing the buffet. As this was on a river boat, our time was limited and we left hungry.
My culture shock when visiting Canada was that pretty much no one knew what I meant when I asked for lactose free milk. No other options either, like soy or almond. Only found it at Starbucks, which I had only ventured into on one of my last days because nothing else much whas open.
