People Share Their Family Secrets That Aren’t For The Faint-Hearted And Here Are 45 Of Them
No one enjoys keeping an unsettling family secret. No matter how much of an impenetrable vault you think you are, this confidential piece of information will keep gnawing at you until you reach a point where you just have to spill the beans to someone.
These people are using Reddit as a platform to unburden themselves while hiding behind the anonymity of a username. They responded to this loaded question: “What’s a secret your family doesn’t think you know, but you do?”
Many of the stories you’re about to read may very well be plots to a twisted thriller drama. You may want to have some popcorn with you as you read through.
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I'm 99% certain that my brother (born 3 years before divorce of my mum and dad) is actually my half brother, and his dad is my step dad - my mum was cheating on my dad with the dude who was to be my new dad.
To cover this s**t up, my mum made up a bunch of terrible lies about my dad (he killed my (imaginary, it turns out) twin brother in utero, tried to kill me, he kidnapped us, my dad always hated my brother, etc etc) that made me cut contact and plan his death for 35 long, angry, and wasted years. Until I discovered all the lies. Unpacking this s**t with my step bro (we're tight) and we came to the same conclusion about my brothers real father.
The tragic part was, all these lies really f****d with me and my brother's heads. My bro committed suicide at 18 with no note. For years I tried to figure out why he would top himself, and now I'm all but certain it was due to the jedi level mindfuck from my mums attempt to hide her infidelity. My anger was channeled into rage, his went to sadness.
Miss you bro. You should be here. You'd have loved my kids, my little girl is just like you.
He reconnected last year after 30 years and his dad seemed to be a good man.
Load More Replies...Tiger's right, that's devastating. I know it's really annoying when people say "I'm sorry for your loss" in situations like this, from experience. So I'll just say a stranger's heart cares about you both, and I hope you tell your daughter some of your favorite stories about him.
So sorry for your loss and for your mom. You and your brother deserved better.
Sometimes it's not just about the cheating or the resulting pregnancy, although there are plenty of places where it IS a big enough deal one might go to these lengths out of fear or shame, and cheating in general isn't some little thing people can just handwave away. It's a massive breach of trust and a blatant display of disrespect. People who lie like the mother here are malicious and manipulative and want to control a narrative that makes them out to be the victim instead of the bad guy, and I'm willing to bet there's similar toxicity between her and OP's stepdad.
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That my cousin’s Papillon didn’t run away… I was with my Uncle drinking on the porch and watched that poor pup get snatched off the ground by a massive hawk. A blink and it was gone. There was nothing we could do. We looked at each other after a solid few minutes of silence and he leans over: “That f*****g dog ran away.” I nodded and that was the last we discussed it.
This is why my two cats are indoors-only. I live in an area that has urban raptors AND urban coyotes. I don't even leave my two large-breed dogs outside at night.
How is running away better than the truth? Surely if you think it's run away you will search for it and live in hope, not able to grieve fully, just like with missing persons?
Yes, when a beloved pet goes missing it hurts much more, you can't really loose hope even when you know it's probably passed away, and it hurts on the regular. Better to tell the truth.
Load More Replies...My cousin was 6 when Hamilton, her baby pot bellied pig was carried off by a golden eagle. They told her it went to the zoo. My cousin was 19 when we went to the zoo. She ran into the petting zoo to give old Hamilton a big hug. My heart went out to her but I also could not hold back laughter. I had to tell her.
It must have been a very small pot-bellied pig. Golden eagles weigh between 8 and 14 pounds fully grown, the males being lighter. They can carry at most 2/3 of their weight in flight, so a maximum of 8 pounds. By the time a pot bellied piglet is two weeks old it will be too heavy for an eagle to lift. Why is this being downvoted? It is a physical impossibility for an eagle to carry more than 8 pounds, and by the time a pot bellied piglet is old enough to be weaned and taken as a pet it will be far too heavy.
Load More Replies...I have a Chihuahua and worry about this same thing happening to him if I take my eyes off him in the yard for just a second. I live out in the woods, and there are hawks around all the time.
Do NOT, I repeat DO NOT let that chihuahua run outside in its own. Stay in close proximity to him, at all times. IF you have other larger dogs, and the chihuahua stays close to them, then he should be okay. I too lived out in the country and had small dogs, and cats. It wasn't the hawk we feared, it was the OWL. I won't go into what happened, just take my word for it 😢
Load More Replies...Happens all the time in the country, even to cats, dogs can be grabbed by some of the owls and hawks out there, and if you live by eagles then even your big dog could become a snack one day it's just part of nature. There's pictures of eagles carrying a whole deer
I live in an area with TONS of eagles and hawks. It’s one of the main reasons my cats are indoor cats, the thought of them getting plucked up and ripped apart by a raptor terrifies me :( (not to mention the bears and wolves)
Load More Replies...Ouch. We have eagles and hawks here too, but I never heard about them catching pets.
Up until today, the secret was that I am gay. I came out to my extended family this weekend after telling my parents that I was done hiding (I'd kept it secret several years at my mom's request.) Ironically, the response from my aunts/uncles was way better than my parents', they all said they still loved me and my mom said I was ruining her life 🙃.
You live your life. Your Parents screwed up by making you hide it
Not their parents, just their mom made them keep it a secret. Because apparently the mom having a gay child, has ruined her life. I hope the OP goes NC with the Mom, but if they choose to have minimal contact with her, she should consider herself lucky, IMHO.
Load More Replies...I swear most people that are homophobic are only that way because of what they assume other people will think. If most people in their inner circle or church were supporters of the lqbtq community they would be too. Some people are too concerned about other people's opinions to do what they know in their heart is the right thing to do and let people be themselves.
Fear of shame. Shame is the most powerful tool of cults. Not just religious ones.
Load More Replies...Just curious. How is her life being ruined if you're the gay one and what if anything does your sexual preference have to do with her? (See how dumb that sounds, OP's mom?)
But what would the neighbors think? And the pastor?? /s
Load More Replies...I've started to learn recently that sometimes the people who try to keep you quiet are fully aware others in the family will accept and keep loving you, drawing more attention to their own nastiness. It can make them work even harder to silence you, convincing you that you will be judged and hated. So glad OP did what was best for them. F that mother.
Personally, I don't see why I should have to make an announcement to speak about my sexuality and love life, as it's my own... but to each their own. And yeah, ofc your extended family would react nicely, you being gay doesn't impact them and changes nothing to their life. Your parents on the other hand... but still, your mom's reaction was absolutely awful. I'm very happy that wasn't my case but I consider myself lucky. Just came one day home with my partner to present them to the fam and that was about it. As long as I'm treated well and happy, everybody around me's happy too.
I absolutely adored my mother. She was a single mother who got a master's in education while taking care of the three of us all the way up to working being a head of a department in the DOE. I never seen her drink, shout, act immature, act out in any unbecoming way etc. My whole life the one thing people commented on was how "classy" my mother is.
Then two years ago when she passed away and I was cleaning out her house, I ended up accidently taking one of her boxes of papers from the attic thinking it was mine. It was full of court documents talking about an affair my mother had with a married colleague where she got allegedly got so upset he ended it that she started to stalk and harass him and he filed criminal charges on her as well as brought it to HR at her former job. The things he says my mother did in those documents, I can't imagine in a hundred years. Yet I also couldn't imagine her having an affair with this guy at all but she admits it in the paperwork. I know why she left her state job and we moved to DC- basically there was some kind of deal made where she would leave and it would go away. And the criminal case was also pretty much dropped with the expectation and deal she would never contact him or bother him again.
Like wtf. It's made me really realize that you don't know ANYONE really.
EDIT: I really didn't expect to get all these nice and respectful replies. I realized that a lot of you are right and I'm judging my mom a bit to harshly when she did everything else right and had been a great mother. Everyone makes a lapse in judgment sometimes especially when it comes to love and it seems she owned up to it and took responsibility. Thanks. I feel a lot better about it.
You remember only the good between you and your mom. Everything else doesn't count
Entirely possible that she was coerced into admitting things to protect herself and her kids. Don't judge her harshly.
My mom let her father in law molest me. She told me my father would blame her and divorce her. Who would want her? A divorced woman with 3 kids!!
At worst, judge people on the total effect they have on the world. Better still, don't judge at all - then they might not judge you
My aunt divorced my uncle in the 50s, with six children. She had no job nor any means to support her & her kids and had to split the family up, sending half the kids to her sister’s house while she & the other three stayed in another sister’s home. She and her six children were treated like dirt. No one could understand why she left her husband. She died in the 1980s taking the truth to her grave. I became close to one of her daughters who also died, recently. But on her deathbed, drugged up from all the medication, she told me the truth. She told me her father, the uncle whom my aunt divorced “touched her all over when she was 12.” 😳😢.
Kudos to the aunt. So many women looked the other way in the 50s because the loss of wage earner meant they could not stay afloat. She was lucky to have her sisters to fall back on.
She was ostracized for it. How would the other family members treat her if they knew the truth.
Load More Replies...To think that she was ostracized for leaving that horrible, horrible man. This made me very sad ...
She should've told everyone. I don't get these women - why would you cover for a pervert, make the marriage breakdown seem like your fault and let your kids be treated like s**t for it? You did the right thing then did all the wrong things so the victims lives are ruined anyway.
But people want to go back to the "good old times". Good old times if you were a pedophile. And no, this was not rare. My mum's school friend got pregnant from her father at 13 years old and had to leave the town "in shame". He could continue to live in the neighbourhood unbothered.
Hell, I am positively mortified hearing about all these stories in here. Mine is a bit light one. I am from a very conservative country, and arranged marriages were the norm here, until a generation ago. Mine uncle's marriage was the first love marriage in our family, and it happened after a lot of persuasions with the Elders. Long before that, my uncle once took me to see his gf in the McDonalds. I was hardly 5, and I remembered the woman as a tall amiable one, who gave me her burgers to eat. As we were going away, I told uncle that I am gonna tell mother how fine this lady was. (We lived in a joint family.) Uncle was terrified. He said there is no haste, and made me promise to never tell again. They married next year.
21 years from then, and they are still married with a boy and a girl.
Tl:Dr; I met my future aunt, before the rest of the family even knew she existed.
My partner's parents had an arranged marriage and by all accounts a happy one. His father died about 30 years ago, and his has mother never had another relationship since. Then again, my partner's elder brother and sister also had arranged marriages; his sister is divorced and remarried (for love), and his brother's marriage is deeply unhappy. My partner had a love marriage and also divorced. Some marriages survive; many don't, irrespective of how they began. That said, I think it's generally better to choose your own mate
The part they know I know now, because I vocally expressed my knowledge, is that my dad cheated on my mom while she was pregnant with my younger brother. There are a couple parts they don’t know I know, and one they don’t even know themselves.
1.My dad actively took me to see his mistress (my now stepmom) while he was still with my mom. I was really young, but I remember being around her while my parents were still married. It didn’t click for me until I got older, and the rest of the family was really mad to find out when I told them.
2.The thing I know that my dad and the rest of my family doesn’t know themselves is that my paternal grandpa continued to give my mom $1000/month on top of what my dad paid in child support, because he was pissed at my dad for cheating. My mom actually told me a story about my dad trying to bail on a dinner where the divorce was going to be discussed, and my grandpa straight up said, “You’re taking your f*****g b***h a*s to that dinner.” My dad started favoring the kids he had with my stepmom, and my grandpa wasn’t having it. Until the day he died, he would secretly give my brother and I “extra” for Christmas, birthdays, etc., because he knew the other two kids were getting treated better. My mom told me many times that my grandpa was the only member of my dad’s side she truly still loved after the divorce because of everything he did.
3.My grandparents paid for the house my dad and mom lived in, but my dad wanted to leave it when he got remarried. He didn’t want the memories from it. Note that this house was three years old and really expensive. My dad threw a fit, because he wanted to build a new one family farm land. This pissed the rest of my family off, because it was active farmland. This fit split the family in half, and it’s still not fixed. My aunts and uncles still don’t like my stepmom because of her role.
I am glad your grandpa step up in provided for his grand kids. Seems like I read on here to many times one set of step kids gets the bad end of the deal.
It's really sad. I'll never understand how someone can divorce their child as well as their spouse but thats what I've essentially watched happen several times in my life. It happened to my best friend when her dad left and started a new family. He married the woman he cheated on her mom with and was always too busy with the new family he created to have much to do with her. She died in a car accident at 16 and I saw him at the funeral. I hope he regrets the time he could have spent with her. My cousin did it when he divorced his wife and only saw his little boys a handful of times until they were adults. My cousins ex-wife remarried a good man who raised those boys. My dad took their stepdad aside at a family party and told him " (my cousin) may be my nephew but we all know who those boys real father is."
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1. The " richest " of them, Swiss banker, constantly borrows money from 2 of the retired middle income family members to stay afloat. He doesn't know the rest of the family know, and is insufferably arrogant about his non existent wealth.
2. The fitness instructor of the family is an anorexic who also drinks a bottle of wine every night, and is constantly preaching health / fitness to the rest of the family.
3. Sister of fitness woman is an aerospace engineer, who graduated with honors. Her personality is so overbearing and toxic that she can't keep a job, so she's a SAHM who looks down on working moms in the family.
4. The judgemental ultra religious aunt had to go to another state to have a baby in secret. Thanks ancestry test.
Told my extended family we were pregnant. My uncle tells us that "wow, your life is over, childcare is expensive, why bother having your wife ever go back to work, your husband (me) needs to work a lot harder or get another job to support you." This was all accompanied with some good, hearty laughs by him. Everyone else was super supportive though. How was yours Sara?
Load More Replies...Sounds like a family where appearances matter so much people get sick...
My older sister is actually my mom.
And this is why proper birth control and abortion needs to exist, because no woman should end up raising her baby as her sibling because she was so young at the time she had them.
"Legal abortion needs to exist" is what you mean. Then again, here I am in the UK where contraception is available for free, and things like that have never stopped happening.
Load More Replies...This is similar to what happened with my grandmother. She became pregnant in the mid '60s at age 16. Great grandparents (her parents) pretended the child (my mother's older brother) was theirs. Then to ~add authenticity~ they (my great grandparents) had an actual biological child, to be a "sibling". And that's the story of how my favorite uncle came to be. I'm only 30 and this "they sent her to relatives in another state" shīt is still relevant. Any other Pandas have a similar story? 🤔 ETA actually I meant my favorite great-uncle, my grandma's young brother who is just a couple years older than my mom (born when Grandma was 19) he and my mom and the first uncle were raised like siblings so I've just always known him as "uncle" 😹
Wow! That is a crazy story Sara! Thank you for sharing!! 😁
Load More Replies...In our house this is not a secret. We adopted our grandchild and raised her as our daughter. We never kept it a secret nor made to much fuss when brought up. She's 19 now and to her my eldest is just her sister. It worked for our family.
Yeah, friend of mine's "brother" is actually his nephew. No-one apart from oldest sister aka mum and her parents knew until the "brother" was 18
Load More Replies...How not to get pregnant should be part of education. You've got a complex system, and you don't know when you ovulate. Also, if someone says you're beautiful, say thanks, you owe them NOTHING more.
My grandmother's youngest brother was her actually her nephew. Big family from Ireland and they left to come to uk around that time I think to escape the magdalene laundries who would definitely have taken the mother and kid away. Good job my great grandmother thought to keep the family together instead.
My sister used to pimp her friends to my older brother and father to avoid having sex with them.
Sounds like she was protecting herself in the only way she knew how, and the male family members were predators. I'm sorry. This sucks for everyone.
Oh dear God in heaven I hope the girls got help and the men are rotting in prison and burn on hell for all eternity.
It was not to, “avoid having sex”…It’s so they wouldn’t rape her. Rape. Not sex.
My grandpa had an entire secret family.
Even named his mistress’s kids the same exact names as my mom and her brothers. No one knew until his funeral, they all think I was too young to remember (8ish 9ish) but I do
Edit: funny part is, I remember the secret kids and my mom + her siblings all getting drunk together later that night too.
I like that they got drunk together. It‘s so irritating when people hate the offspring more then the actual culprit.
Technically, polygamy, polygyny and all of those are also ‘social constructs’. Everything has a social construct if we think about it; penguins give stones like we give rings, wolves recognise pack territories like we recognise property, et cetera. Additionally, how would we define ‘discipline’ and ‘self-control’? Male foxes are primarily monogamous, for example, staying solitary if their partner dies, while female foxes are not and will look for a new partner; in this case, do we consider foxes disciplined or not?
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Back when i was 14, my father got blackout drunk and told me that he and my mother nearly had me aborted. She was 15 when i was conceived, and both of them were growing up in poverty. At the appointment for the procedure, they decided against it and kept me, knowing that they were both throwing away better chances at a good life in adulthood.
He doesn't remember telling me, i am certain of it. I dealt with the emotional rollercoaster on my own instead of confronting them.
After a few years of dealing with my emotions over it all, i was happy they had the choice. I am pro-choice. They set themselves back probably 15 years compared to where they could be if they went through with it the way i see things. I am thankful for life and thankful they put so much love and care into my upbringing. They raised me to make smarter decisions, and they set me up for success in having a "better life" than the lives they had. Not everyone has as much love and selflessness as my parents had, day after day, raising me. There are billions of different lives and situations out there, and sometimes, abortion is the right decision. Me being here probably wasn't the right one, they struggled a lot. Alcoholism, divorce, depression, poverty, and who knows what else, had followed that decision.
All of this being said. Me knowing this is not getting back to them, ever. They can tell me about it consciously if they want, but i don't think they will.
You are meant to be here. Your life is worth going through every trial
Are you in a good financial state where you could help them out for keeping you if they need it?
If my parents were 15 when they had me, I would assume they at least entertained the idea.
That my uncle (deceased) was a registered sex offender. I was never introduced to him and my dad (His brother) would never speak about him. I was told he passed away, and the excuse of "You never met him!) was the reason I couldn't go to his funeral yet my parents have dragged me to peoples funeral that I never knee's funeral. They weren't even related to me. Got suspicious and searched my uncles name up on one of those sex offender lists and his name came up + his face. Turns out he was caught touching a 3 year old child at a park a few weeks before I was born. Scary. My parents were probably just protecting me.
"probably just protecting you" !!!!!!! Miss they were protecting you. So many families turn a blind eye to stuff like this, but your mom and dad, they didn't. You are so lucky to have them as parents, cause not everybody has parents like yours.
I concur. When I told my mother my babysitter's son mòlested me, she said he was a perfectly nice Christian boy. She also mòlested me. All before I was 10. Everyone's blamed me for it every time.
Load More Replies...Probably protecting? Is there doubt? Is op disappointed about not getting to meet pervy pedo uncle?
My cousin’s grandfather on the married in side had only one leg. He lost it when he was a kid boating with the sheriff of their tiny town. He took him for a ride and ended up running him over somehow with the motor. Why was an unrelated kid hanging around with the sheriff? Well it came out later that he was molesting almost all of the kids in that place. I don’t know what really happened on that boat, but I know it wasn’t good. Maybe he was trying to keep him quiet I don’t know…but it was not good
I was not protected from my mother's brother. OP was fortunate to be protected.
That my grandfather cheated on my grandma with her best friend! Karma did him dirty, the “best friend” took his money when they divorced.
That my father cheated on my mother when she was pregnant with me! (My father is the son of the cheating grandpa btw)
Such a f****d up family.
So many men on this list needed to keep it in their pants. What is it with the cheaters and secret families and everything
My mom and dad used to go the bar together to pick up guys.
"Family Secrets That Aren’t For The Faint-Hearted" - I don't think a particularly strong heart is needed for this one? I mean, nothing about it sounds like there was anying non-consensual going on. So, good for them!
If it's YOUR parents though...nobody wants to picture their parents having sex let alone having a threesome!
Load More Replies...Sadly there's still a lot of judgement around ethical non-monogamy, and it sounds like that's what this was. They went together to the bar which implies it was agreed upon. Clearly this person prefers not to share this info (other than anonymously on the internet of course) but that could easily be because it's not their story to tell.
WHy is this here? Consenting adults and all that. Yeah, I know, kids don't want to think of parents ever having any kind of sex. But beyond that, this doesn't belong here.
Yes, seeking a partner for three-somes. It happens.
Load More Replies...Really?? They must love and respect each other enough to go out & pick up other guys. Maybe the mum knows her partner/husband is bi but loves him. It isn't as though he/she cheated on each other..
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I discovered that my mom had a secret husband (she divorced him) that no one knew about. I do the family history research for my family, and I discovered it by accident. I asked her about it discreetly, and she begged me not to tell anyone--said not even my dad or brother knew. She died in 2003, and I still haven't, or won't, tell a soul.
Who knows? I didn't find out my mom was my dad's 3rd wife until I was like 16. It's not like I would have thought any less of him, it just made me assume there was a lot of secret things I didn't know about my parents. I had dreams that I had a long lost sibling afterwards or that my parents had a child that died that they never told me about. Idk why but after I found that out I just assumed they all had these huge skeletons in their closet I wasn't aware of lol. I asked my dad why he never told me and he just said because it was none of my business. Maybe he was ashamed?? Honestly it would have just made him seem more human to me because my dad was one of those people who always knew best and was never wrong. I actually started to empathize more with him and start viewing him as a human being rather than just my dad after that. Just be honest with your kids, even about your mistakes...especially about your mistakes.
Load More Replies...Back in the day, divorced women were considered of loose morals—-even if they divorced because of domestic violence from their husbands, or their husbands were the ones who molested their own children. Why TF should the woman be looked down on because her husband was a great actor, to get her to marry him, but actually a 100% reprehensible creature, and she was the brave and decent one who got away from him and his s**t? I really hate the fact that women who came before me had to bear the brunt of this kind of horseshit.
Aah that‘s a good reason to keep silent! I was wondering why the mother never told her second husband
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My brother got arrested and went to court for multiple d**g charges. They went out of their way to hide it from me so that they could continue to act like I was the disappointment. They pretended they were going out to breakfast without me and rubbed it in my face to cover up his court dates.
I hate it SO MUCH when parents put their kids into categories: one designated golden child, one designated abuse victim. It's so twisted and either one damages the kid for life.
I didn't realize it when I was younger (I'm the "abuse victim" kid) but being the "golden child" can eff you up royally as well. I'm adopted, but my older sister is my parents' bio child. My mom would regularly abuse me in every way you can abuse a child, and would beat me and hit me and sometimes throw me across the room, but my sister never even got spanked. My sister ended up turning out EXACTLY like my mother: a toxic narcissist who is the literal definition of Main Character Syndrome. She's borderline nonfunctional, has no friends, has never been in a relationship, and still lives at home at age 48. She has almost no hobbies and no one wants to be around her (same with my mother.) My sister is no innocent victim as she joined my mother in abusing me from her teenage years onwards even til now, but in all honesty, her life is JUST as messed up and meaningless as mine is. At least I have my pets, whom I love - she doesn't even LIKE animals.
Load More Replies...Uhhh that's so messed up...you can have breakfast with me and my kids anytime
The golden child/scapegoat dynamic is probably also behind the brother's d**g problems.
That mom was never accepted in the family because she wasn't quite "white" enough.
My mums dad didn't really accepted my dad as he is Asian (South East Asia) and my mum is white. My grandpa never really treated us the same as our cousins as they were white. But I do remember when I was about 8yrs old & my mum took my brother & me to visit them up in QLD, that my nan told him to quit his horrible behaviour or else he could sleep in the chicken coup. He never behaved like that again.
Had some friends when young who were non white. F****d up thing was the grandparents noticeably favoured the lighter skinned of the grandkids and virtually ignored the darker skinned. Didn't think too much of it at the time (too young I guess) but later on I was WTF?!
Colorism is a thing. It's a form of internalized racism.
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I have a half-sister. No one in my family has ever spoken about her, and after putting the pieces together I understand why. Being young, unwed and pregnant in the South in the early sixties could be f*****g tragic.
Sounds like someone I know very closely. I have an unknown niece out there somewhere. Wish her well and hope she has a happy life.
A great aunt of mine had to put her son up for adoption bc she got pregnant with a black man's baby out of wedlock (no idea what age). Pretty sure it was the 60s too and that was Maryland. I only know bc I was on 23 and me and that kid (my 2nd or 3rd cousin I guess?) contacted me and asked if I knew his mother.
That almost happened to my aunt, but somehow after going to the mother and baby home, she actually came back with the baby. I don't know more than that because it has never really been talked about.
It's so horrible. For hundreds of years people, especially women, were traumatised. Having children could have been a blessing, or at the very least, not such a nightmare. But a society brainwashed by a f*****g babykilling and rape happy "god" and his childfucking priests made their lives hell. Thousands, if not millions, of women. All so that some priests could have power. F**k that, f**k all of it. Let's never go back to that.
My grandfather lied about where he was stationed in WW2. He confided some in me in his last years, but a few slip-ups on his part and some papers I found made me start questioning.
He says he was stationed in Las Vegas at a supply warehouse the entire war, but has papers from the OSS, knows how to hot-wire a single engine plane, and when I made some remark about a field manual saying to fire your gun into an enemy if your bayonet is stuck in them, he mumbled "Yeah, done that a few times."
My mom and aunts all like to dodge the question, they may not even know it all themselves, but my older cousin and I both agree he probably stacked bodies across Europe.
Knew someone who's Grandad was UK Home Guard.He told me some of his Granddad's stories including one were they had a hidden base in a wood. It had been stocked with weapons and explosives. Built secretly only a few of them new about it. His Grandad had been a local farmer. Piecing it all together I told the person I knew that more than likely his Grandad had been a Home Guard Auxiliary a secret force that would go into hiding after the German Invasion to emerge and cause sabotage behind German lines. He told me his Grandfather had said that after the war they just left the place hidden so supposedly there is a hidden bunker in a wood full of weapons and explosives. They were tied by the Secrets Act but I suppose 30 years on and time running out Grandad probably felt it safe to let a few things slip out.
More on the Auxilliaries in question here: https://www.staybehinds.com/
Load More Replies...Don't blame those who went to war and came back different. Blame the war.
Blame the politicians. Always blame the politicians. The answer is, in your own words please ? ......... In the same breath, don't blame the immigrants etc etc .....
Load More Replies...My dad helped found the OSS - he evaluated and picked men for the training so they could be sent overseas. We had no spying capacity at that time. The British sent over their men to train Americans. My dad told me those guys made Americans look like babies. He also told me the most successful spies will never go down in history;
When they're successful you never hear about them. Or what they accomplished.
Load More Replies...Let's not pretend he probably had a very good reason to do what he did. My father fought in the Korean War and killed a number of Chinese. If he hadn't, South-Korea would have been overrun and the world would have been a very different place. He was wounded, was awarded the Purple Heart, got better and returned to the front but this time as a medic. My grandfather on my mother's side was in the resistance: he hid a Jewish family and was forced to kill a German soldier in order to prevent this family from being sent to a concentration camp. My grandfather on my father's side fought against the Japanese invaders: he killed a few, was taken prisoner and in spite of the Geneva Convention, was decapitated as a POW. Yes, it took us aback a little but knowing more about the context of the situation made us all aware that it's not always possible to keep your hands clean when it comes defending your freedom.
My great Uncle was a POW in Germany. He was in Stalag 17. They made a movie about that stalag.After he was liberated he got a job at the State Dept. Found out later it was actually the CIA. He was in Tehran right before they took the hostages. He quit in protest because he had told them it was going to happen but they ignored him.
know someone whose father had been in one of the Underground groups in Poland in WW2 (loyal to the govt in exile), and told his kids "Oh I was just the cook" and never would talk about the war. At his funeral lots of Polish WW2 underground and Army vets living in the US and Canada showed up, and they all talked about how amazing he was. The son said "I thought he was just the cook" before others informed him, his father had been at 16-19 years old one of the most prolific explosive experts in the Polish Underground and made thousands of homemade explosives of all types. He was "a cook", just not what his son thought it meant. Said he wished he knew earlier what a hero his father was in fighting Nazis.
If he was with OSS, he was sworn to secrecy and never to tell anyone about what he had done. He'd probably been given a cover story to use if need be. Having said that, if you had repeatedly fired your rifle to deal wth the man you'd just bayonetted, not wanting to think about it ever again seems quite reasonable.
Load More Replies...OSS were mostly deployed in Pacific theatre of operations. But sure you're right that these guys didn't get that training to spend whole war at supply warehouse in Vegas...
My parents could not afford an abortion when my mother got pregnant with me, so they tried half a dozen “folk remedies” to end the pregnancy. I was first told by someone who was trying to hurt me (and at the time, it did). It was later confirmed by another person who misunderstood something I said and thought I was referring to this. The two people do not know each other.
I don’t hold any ill will toward my parents since I also know the unbelievable financial pressure they were under at the time. They couldn’t afford a third child and I was a surprise due to a birth control failure. It would utterly destroy them if they knew I’ve known about this most of my life. I wish I could tell them that I completely understand and I feel great empathy for the horrible position they were in, but I know it would restart years of emotional pain even if they knew how I feel.
Abortion is free in my country :( it’s good that so many people in the world have abortion access but it’s sad that some can’t afford one - especially because that means they can’t afford another child either but have no other choice. (I’m glad OP is here but it makes me feel sad that this situation probably happens to a lot of parents in certain countries without free or affordable healthcare).
There is another option if necessary, they could put the baby up for adoption.
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My mother is the reason my dad wasn’t in my life for over 18 years.
My sibling and I were supposedly abducted by my mother and left our country in Europe for the US.
My mother is a US citizen but my father was not, being from Europe. He took her to court here in the US but for some reason nothing amounted to it. I grew up listening and believing her stories of how he was a bad person and how he treated her. Although, she was pretty bad herself with the physical, mental, and emotional abuse I endured all my life with her. But because of the stories she told my sibling and I, I grew up hating him.
I came to a boiling point from the abuse she gave and decided one day to move out once I turned 22 and moved in with my wife (gf at the time). My wife (gf at the time) knew how much it hurt me not being able to be or speak with my dad so she secretly contacted him and put us in touch.
5 years later and my dad and I are reconnected almost speaking daily. I get to go back home yearly to reconnect with family. We both are grateful to my wife.
At first it was difficult speaking to my dad as I had so much anger, hate, and questions for him. But I later learned my mom got married secretly before him and us and that’s how she got her US citizenship. She ended up cheating on my dad and that’s how my dad found out about the previous marriage by contacting him to ask why they divorced. Once my dad told the man he wanted to ask about my mom, the guy told him to never contact him again because she ruined his life.
All of my family from my dads side told me stories about how my mom made life difficult for my dad. I learned a lot about her and honestly put the pieces together with how she was as a human being.
5 years and I still have 0 contact with her.
Did you let your siblings know about your and their dad? If not should have and let them know how your relationship with your dad is going. Maybe they want to contact him themselves.
My wife was sexually, physically and emotionally abused as a toddler by her mothers boyfriend at the time (plus she was an absolute terrible mother in many other ways).
My wife’s mum has never talked to her about it and has no idea that she/we know about it. We only know as my wife’s grandmother spilled the beans. I don’t even think her husband knows about it.
It’s all kept on the hush as my wife’s grandmother doesn’t want my wife’s mum to find out she told her, my wife’s mum has secretly been taken out of her will, she is leaving all her money and a house to our children.
It’s a really complicated family dynamics and there’s also a lot of complex trauma, it’s easy to say from the outside to say “just cut them off”, CPTSD is a real c**t of a condition. Karma will come around.
My mom and dad left in the middle of the night, I was left home alone with my 4 siblings. After a couple hours, at like 2 in the morning, I called my mom to find out what the hell was going on. She paused, and I heard her ask dad, “what do I tell her?” He responded, “well, don’t tell her he shot himself.” Mom got back on the phone and said they were going to go help my step grandma with something. Turns out the thing was scrubbing grandpas brain off the wall and funeral arrangements. So yeah, that’s how I found out grandpa died.
Suicidal people generally really believe that the people around them would be better off without them. Depression is a mental illness; thinking logically isn't an option
Load More Replies...My Uncle has 3 kids none of our family has ever met. I didn't find out until after my Uncle died. My Mom knows that I know but no one else. My Uncle was a truck driver and he drove all over the US. He had a girlfriend in every state apparently 🤨 My Uncle knew about the children but he just didn't care...but..he was married 6 times and had two children who he raised and loved. It's really weird that he didn't want those other kids or wanted us to know about them......
I'll be a father to these kids, and the others just a donor of sperm.
The fact my grandmother basically ordered my father to give my old sister and I to the state since we were too "rowdy.".
The happiness on my Dad's face when he ... relieved himself over his paternal Grandma's grave confirms this, smilingly so.
Load More Replies...My dearest OP, I tell you with complete sincerity... F**k that b***h!
My mom f****d my sister’s first boyfriend.
My high school girl friend was convinced by her four years older sister to dump me because we we going to different colleges. A month after the break-up, guess which older sister was driving down to my campus to try to climb into bed with me? (She did not succeed.)
This hit close to home and convenient timing but that my family or more of my mom hid my potentially autism diagnosis from me for over 20 years. I always had trouble in school always falling behind, writing, balance, speech etc the schools would constantly try to get me in special education which my mom refused I remember being in an program as a kindergarten I research it and it was an Autism Early intervention program I ask my mom and she got defensive, denied it despite me showing her all the evidence and said it doesn't matter and she doesn't remember. I'll never know the full truth I accepted it well working on it.
Some parents just cannot accept the fact that their child isn't "perfect". My father had trouble recognising the fact that I was partially deaf, and it took several years before I got the hearing aid I needed.
Yeah. I was diagnosed with anxiety/depression/PTSD and "attention issues" when I was in grade 1. My mom pretended it wasn't real and turned down the help offered. When my elder sister dropped out of HS and was "sick" for 3 years, my mom said it was "pre-cancer" instead of acknowledging that the doctors were telling her it was severe depression/anxiety/PTSD. That's what having an evangelical parent did to you in the 90s.
Back in elementary school, I had classmate who was left-handed. Her parents were determined to make her right handed. Teacher in our school told them that being left handed isn't a problem, but they wouldn't listen.They even take my classmate to seme experts for child development, and were told the same thing. They used to wrap her left hand in the scarf and forced her to write with her right hand. She eventually became ambidextrous, but as soon as she got to high school, she switched back to her left hand and refused to write with right hand.
People who are forced to use their non-dominant hand do not become ambidextrous. They develop as much as possible an ability to do basic tasks with the wrong hand.
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My parents adopted a baby girl who they gave away about a year later. This was when I was a toddler so I don’t remember her.
They already had a house full of children so I can’t imagine why they adopted one—or why they tossed her away. I am thinking about trying to find out what happened to her. I hope she’s doing okay.
Is OP sure they adopted? Maybe they were fostering and the girl went home or was adopted?
Don't remember her and haven't asked any questions but "they tossed her away"
Depending when this was, it might've been one of the Romanian (I think) kids that were being adopted in the 90s but they were so mentally, emotionally and psychologically damaged from lack of human touch and nurturing that they just couldn't fit into their adoptive families.
Didn’t a wealthy Instagram family of this? With a Chinese child, I can’t remember
Maybe they realized they couldn't afford to take care of another child?
I can’t help but think that realization should come BEFORE adopting another child 😅
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My nan and my grandpa are cousins. I'm from Yorkshire England.
I would never marry any cousin.....1st, 2nd, 3rd, whatever....'cause that's my COUSIN MAN!!!
My mother and father are cousins, some people who are friends with my family married their cousins and even my cousin nearly married his aunt who was of the same age as him. I have no wish to continue with this... tf do I call it. A trend? Trend it is.. continue with this trend. Imma marry someone who isn't blood family but shall first find the one I will love cuz no way in hell am I gonna go thru an arranged marriage, which funny enough is the main reason how the people I mentioned got married.
My grandparents too. Her dad was against it and it took many years for my grandmother and her father to be on speaking terms again
That's some secret to share and must be an awful burden. Then you find out your grandparents are cousins as well !
Found my brother’s Reddit username and that he had a fiancée who was pregnant and died in a drunk driving accident. Not sure if it’s the truth, but he mentioned it several times in comments.
Terribly sad if it’s true and the brother just never talked about it (outside of Reddit). SUPER weird if he was just making it up.
People do make stuff up online for attention,.. take it with a pinch of salt
My dad fathered a baby girl when he was 16ish. Baby was given up for adoption right after she was born. From what I've put together, she was born around Minneapolis in either 1967 or 1968.
My Dad drunkenly called me and told me my younger brother is my half-brother. My mother doesn’t know that I know.
Long story short is that my Mom cheated on my Dad and didn’t tell him till the child was two. To which she then divorced him and left him for the guy who she cheated on him with.
This is a different kind of story, but relates to the half-sibling thing....... My Dad was married, had a son, then got divorced. My Dad got full custody (that's crazy because that was in the 70's). My Dad married my Mom and had me and my brother. My older brother is my "half-brother", but I call him my brother, simple as that.
I know that they have been hiding for atleast a month the fact that my dog was going to die.
I don't think family members/parents should hide a pet's impending death from a child unless the child is too young to understand death in any form (like 2-3 years old.) It will feel just horribly, needlessly cruel when the animal is just one day "gone" because that was the day that a family member took it in to be euthanized. That leaves unbelievable scars on a child (guess how I know!) The child never gets closure because they never got to say goodbye or even spend a last bit of meaningful time with their pet. Is it hard to talk to a child about death, especially if they've never experienced it? I imagine it is. But it is so much better than having the child come home from school one day to find their beloved pet just gone. I don't know if that was OP's situation or how they found out their dog is dying, but I cannot imagine the feelings of betrayal and breach of trust this would cause between a child (even an adult child) and their family members.
My parents and siblings hid the death of one of our family cats for over 4 months. I was away at university abroad and this cat was killed in an accident. They didn’t tell me about it fearing me breaking down by myself at uni and messing up my studies. I did suspect something was wrong after a while cause every time I asked to see my cat on video call they would give some excuse like “Oh he just had lunch and went outside” and when I asked for photo updates they just sent old photos of him (which I’ve taken!). They finally told me when I got home for the summer vacation and I did have a breakdown for a few weeks. I still miss him and my last memory is of him laying by me as I packed my luggages for uni the last vacation I spent with him.
Load More Replies...Death is a natural part of life, we must learn to treat it as such and stop hiding it and/or sterilizing it.
I know it's not the question, but look it's close enough to be an acceptable answer.
Mine is a secret I know that my family are refusing to accept. My sister has a form of autism. It hasn't been diagnosed, but I believe it to be aspergers. Thankfully it manifests itself in a humorous way... mostly... but other times not. Because it's usually humorous she gets away with it, but socially she's very autistic. I tried mentioning it to my parents once, but they wouldn't hear of it. Basically they just shut me down and asked me not to talk about it.
Girls with autism in particular are good at masking or it presents in ways people don't notice as much. Parents that won't accept it, or even get kids tested, really p**s me off! As an early years teacher I see it far too much.
Depending on the sister’s age, there might not have been testing for her because until fairly recently it was believed that autism only occurred in males. Growing up in the 70’s and 80’s, autism was not tested for girls. It’s still a belief that some people have because girls are societally brought to behave in certain ways. Even if she is high needs autistic (non verbal, violent, etc) she could have been misdiagnosed. Source: misdiagnosed as antisocial because I would get violent when overwhelmed as a child. Only got properly diagnosed in university after having trouble with exams. Autistic girls still get misdiagnosed far more than boys because of medical bias, and early societal camouflage “training” of “proper” female behaviour.
Load More Replies...No such yhing as Aspergers! In the past, Asperger's identified autistic people without learning disabilities. Today, it's understood that this falls under the broader umbrella of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). It's considered controversial because of who it was named after, Hans Asperger, whose history with the Nazi party has been discovered.
It's been renamed, yes; but the main effect has been to label people with Asperger's as Autistic, and blur the differences. Several countries refuse work visas - or immigration - for those suffering from Autism, and this just sweeps those with Asperger's into the 'discard' pile with the others. DSM 3 listed homosexuality as a mental illness; DSM 5 uses 'Autistic' as a catch-all label for a wide range of patients, without discriminating between their problems; we know that medical knowledge changes (improves?) with time, maybe we could be a little less sure of the absolute truth of everything in the current textbooks?
Load More Replies...And it matters, why ? If she's happy, healthy and thriving, carry on. Frankly, it's none of your business if she's doing well.
A Psychotherapy maxim older than the profession, "What good is sticking your head in the sand?"
Well, they call it 'high functioning autism', which leads people to think that no help is needed, but in reality 'high functioning' just means you can walk and talk and comprehend *some* things, but not that you don't need assistance.
That my uncle is gay. I think i went to his house maybe once when I was 3 before he got married to my other uncle. My parents tried to hide this fact for some reason, but 2 years ago, I was the only one in the house when the postman arrived, and saw the Christmas card my two uncles had sent. Also that the same uncle has skin cancer because he spent too much time in Spain trying to get a tan.
My parents were married, my dad caught my mom red handed cheating on him, my dad beat the s**t of the dude who my mom was with, they got a divorce, and then later re-married.
I know my parents do their f*****g best to keep that a secret, but all four of their children know however, it's really one of those things that's rarely talked about.
The term 'remarried' doesn't mean marry the same person, just that you get married after having been married before. So I assume OP means that both parents married someone else.
Load More Replies...I’m the product of adultery and my parents got married when I was two, not before I was born as I was told.
On my ex-wife's side of the family Cousin A (f) marries Cousin B (m). Meanwhile Cousin C (f) marries some from outside the family D (m). A few years later Cousin A has and affair with D and Cousin B has an affair with Cousin C. Both the women get pregnant with daughter E and son F. Nobody knows who fathered which kid. My comment that E and F would end up marrying did NOT go down well! SO glad I'm out of that family. I should point out that this is not in Alabama - the family is Anglo-Irish.
No they are their parents, just one was married to someone else at the time of conception
Load More Replies...And ? Also, whilst we're on it, why is this this 'biblical' and frankly outdated language (adultery) still being used in our modern and supposedly enlightened society ? FFS please stop talking like we're in the bloody 18th century.
My father was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force for theft. He told my sibling and I when he was trashed. I know he doesn’t remember.
The Big Chicken Dinner AKA the bad conduct discharge. My dad was kicked out of the Canadian Navy after about 8 months for being a severe alcoholic
He got dishonorable, which is worse than the big chicken dinner. Basically means you're a felon, and removes all veterans benefits
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That my cousin destroyed her life by engaging in sperm roulette despite being engaged.
Sounds like cheating, but with a more competetive attitude than usual.
Load More Replies...From google search: sperm roulette is when you take the sperm from 6 guys, mix it up and insert it in a woman. (Weird way of cheating, imo. Do we know if the person the cousin was engaged to knew about this? Because if they wanted kids and his sperm wasn't working then perhaps he helped arrange for a "party" that resulted in that eehmm... sperm roulette?)
By using a turkey baster! I knew someone who mentioned (several times) their friend having done this. I thought they were making it up to gross me out.
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My parents borrow lot of money from me because supposedly they own it to an Italian businessman, but when I went to the bank, I saw they had paid the amount to an Austrian bank. Never asked them explanation.
It is possible for a businessman to have a bank account in a neighboring country, particularly in Europe.
Did that Italian businessman make your parents an offer they couldn't refuse?
Probably was using an Australian bank since more than likely it was an illegal deal.
Zealot family member who never met a American instigated war he didn't like was a draft dodger during Vietnam. I found the smoking gun letters to another relative from 1968 to prove it. The letters were found in the recipients house after they passed. They have no idea I know. I wish I knew this gem back in 2006.
We had a word for people like Russ Limbaugh and the OP's relative - chickenhawks.
Is that because they act like hawks but are too chicken to actually walk the walk and enlist?
Load More Replies...The Viet Nam war was instigated by the French. Fun fact: Ho Chi Minh appealed to the US first, asking for assistance freeing his country from foreign occupation. The US after all had just spent 4 years proclaiming to the world it was "liberating" a bunch of occupied countries. It was only after he was turned down that he went to China for help.
And now the US is gonna be led by a draft dodger. And that's one of the least off putting things he's done
Just because you hate wars doesn’t mean you want to be in one
'never met a war he didn't like'; he's one of those who thinks wars are brilliant so long as he isn't part of it.
Load More Replies... My dad cheated on my mum when I was a baby (and maybe also before my birth).
She suspects, but never had any proof.
He told me about 5 years ago and it really f****d me up for a while. Noone else knows.
The divorce was about 25 years ago, they already hate each other's guts and I don't think it would benefit anyone to open old wounds. Especially my siblings and me. It's already a hassle to get them into the same room - it'll be impossible if I told her.
Gramps helped with Hiroshima.
The decision to bomb lay with the government. If gramps was a scientist or any person working at that level of the development, it was not on him.
It was the government's decision to bomb but it wasn't an easy one. It's believed that if they *hadn't* bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the war would have gone on for another 3 years or more and cost millions of more lives on both sides.
Load More Replies...People talk about Hiroshima all the time. How about ONE fireboming raid on Tokyo?Estimates of the number of people killed in the firebombing of Tokyo on March 10, 1945 range from 90,000 to 100,000. The raid also injured an estimated 125,000 people and left 1.5 million homeless. Estimated deaths at Hiroshima between 70,000 and 140,000.
Unless Gramps was Harry Truman, he was not responsible for what happened in Hiroshima.
The Japanese were responsible for their own fate.
Load More Replies...Crucial difference - although I doubt anyone on the flight team knew just how bad it would be. The first casualty of war is truth.
Load More Replies...Nothing too bad but apparently they have told alot of relatives I was a good student but I skipped more then half of classes to play basketball all day. I did not graduate from high school even.
The earliest recollection I have of my father's brother molesting me was when I was around 3.5 years old. This went on until I was 10. I never said anything to anyone until I was in my mid-twenties, and I told my mother. She was devastated and then incredibly angry. I came to find out that my father and his mother knew my uncle was a pedophile and never said anything to anyone. My Mom only found out after she divorced my father when I was 15. I never told her because she was going through so much s**t with my father hitting her, and I was afraid of him. Also, my uncle was the only male who showed me affection. My father hated me even while my Mom was pregnant and tried to make her miscarry by kneeing her in the stomach. Anyway, I'm 56 and still here, and so is my Mom, and the rest are dead, so there's that. LOL!
I'm so sorry. Glad you've escaped. And glad that mom was outraged on your behalf.
Load More Replies...My father was engaged to another woman prior to meeting my mom. My mom never knew. My dad claimed to be an accountant at a major electronics company. He was in fact a manager in their industrial espionage department. I don't know if mom ever figured this out.
Ok so here’s mine my mother died when I was 8 mths old and I didn’t go live with my father I grew up with his parents he remarried when I was two n went on to have three more kids he always treated me differently like I didn’t matter like he hated me he did he told me I killed my mother she shouldn’t have had me and I’m her spilt only a bit taller fast forward to when I was 46 and my aunt decided to tell me the truth about my mothers death the mother I know nothing about other than her age when she died (19) her name and I’d seen one pic of her and I was left her wedding dress which my stepmother destroyed! turns out obviously it wasn’t my fault she died it was his he killed her and his attitude towards me was pure guilt I’m almost 60 now n he’s been dead a few years did I go see him in hospital no did I go to his funeral also no I’m no hypocrite I loath the thing as called him self my father to blame a child for the death of her mother is sickening beyond belief I,ll never forgive him
One of the reason theworld is a messed family One of the reason the world is a messed up place because of family dynamics. That is what I know.
My family is incredibly dull in this respect, apart from my mother's cousin - at his funeral, a young woman turned up, who happened to be his daughter that we never knew about.
The earliest recollection I have of my father's brother molesting me was when I was around 3.5 years old. This went on until I was 10. I never said anything to anyone until I was in my mid-twenties, and I told my mother. She was devastated and then incredibly angry. I came to find out that my father and his mother knew my uncle was a pedophile and never said anything to anyone. My Mom only found out after she divorced my father when I was 15. I never told her because she was going through so much s**t with my father hitting her, and I was afraid of him. Also, my uncle was the only male who showed me affection. My father hated me even while my Mom was pregnant and tried to make her miscarry by kneeing her in the stomach. Anyway, I'm 56 and still here, and so is my Mom, and the rest are dead, so there's that. LOL!
I'm so sorry. Glad you've escaped. And glad that mom was outraged on your behalf.
Load More Replies...My father was engaged to another woman prior to meeting my mom. My mom never knew. My dad claimed to be an accountant at a major electronics company. He was in fact a manager in their industrial espionage department. I don't know if mom ever figured this out.
Ok so here’s mine my mother died when I was 8 mths old and I didn’t go live with my father I grew up with his parents he remarried when I was two n went on to have three more kids he always treated me differently like I didn’t matter like he hated me he did he told me I killed my mother she shouldn’t have had me and I’m her spilt only a bit taller fast forward to when I was 46 and my aunt decided to tell me the truth about my mothers death the mother I know nothing about other than her age when she died (19) her name and I’d seen one pic of her and I was left her wedding dress which my stepmother destroyed! turns out obviously it wasn’t my fault she died it was his he killed her and his attitude towards me was pure guilt I’m almost 60 now n he’s been dead a few years did I go see him in hospital no did I go to his funeral also no I’m no hypocrite I loath the thing as called him self my father to blame a child for the death of her mother is sickening beyond belief I,ll never forgive him
One of the reason theworld is a messed family One of the reason the world is a messed up place because of family dynamics. That is what I know.
My family is incredibly dull in this respect, apart from my mother's cousin - at his funeral, a young woman turned up, who happened to be his daughter that we never knew about.
