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Former Prisoners, Their Friends And Family Share 25 Things Nobody Tells You About Being Incarcerated That They Had To Learn On Their Own
Prison is a bit of a surreal experience for those who have ended up there. They undergo a lot of adapting and learning, and usually it's getting used to an extreme and unorthodox way of living. One they often wish they’d known before they got there.
Former inmates, their friends and family on Reddit have been sharing things that nobody told them about being incarcerated, but that they had to learn all on their own. And while some things do make sense, others feel like they’re out of this world.
We’ve collected some of the best responses on the post and made a curated list below, so scroll down and vote as well as comment on the ones you found most interesting, or tell us some prison stories you know of in the comment section below!
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#1
Been to a state prison in Ohio as a young skinny white dude... one of the most intimidating feelings I've ever felt walking into a large building with 3 wings each filled to the brim with some scary mother f@#$%^s. Bunk beds, no cells
I learned very quickly to keep to myself. As you can imagine there was always tension in the air, that imminent sense violence was hanging in the limbo. Grown men packed into a tight living quarters with only a couple things of commissary to your name breeds one hell of a hostile environment.
I had a short stint but found myself constantly being aware of who and what was going on around me. Tobacco wasn't allowed, but if you could get 1 pack of smokes in, it could be broken down into 3 roll ups from each cig, and each roll up sold for 5 bucks, meaning one pack could net you 300 bucks.
Gambling is every where and I saw most dudes get in trouble because they would start incurring debt and couldn't pay it off, that's when they would heat up tomato soup in the microwave and throw boiling sticky soup on someone while they slept (saw it twice).
Envelopes and soups (ramen packets) were currency and prison is strictly racially divided, if your there long enough you have to join. It was terrifying but at the same time I meet some really interesting people and faced one of my greatest fears in life and came out the other side all the while doing almost a social experiment as it unfolded.
And the last thing I'll say is this; they say it's a "rehabilitation" center, that's complete bull s@#t. I went in for having a large amount of herb, but while in there I learned the best methods to counterfeit money and how to B and E without getting caught... our incarceration system desperately needs change. This was just my experience.
angry_waffle 3 years ago
Currently, this is meant to punish, not at all to rehabilitate. Punishment breeds a cycle of violence, with no chance to redeem yourself.
John C 3 years ago
No, it's not meant to punish. It's meant to make the PRIVATE OWNERS of the prisons money. They couldn't give a rat's a$$ what actually happens in prisons, rehab/punish/whatever so long as the owners don't get into trouble.
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Oopsydaisy 3 years ago
You shouldn't have to be 'rehabilitated' because you possessed drugs. The drug war destroys lives and has killed millions of people all over the world. Time for prohibition to end.
Elsabeth 3 years ago
Former CO from OH here - and OP is 100% on the mark with the description! Rehabilitation is in the title of the prison description, but is FAR from being a true statement. Spent 15 yrs in corrections, last 9 yrs in HR - work for the feds now.
Judith Reilly 3 years ago
I too worked at a state prison as a kitchen supervisor - uniform and all. There is no rehabilitation going on in CA. There used to be college classes offered, but not any more. Our system is messed up.
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Poultry Geist 3 years ago
B and e breaking and entering I had to look it up . Figured someone else maybe wondering :)
Joan Zatorski 3 years ago
I just want to say I'm glad you made it out and shared this post. I hope you are doing well and are safe Thank you for enlightening so many here.
Mackenzie Raybourne 3 years ago
I have been incarcerated, also in the state of Ohio and for nonviolent, non theft, possession charges. I have found that the average inmate is nonviolent initially upon entry into the prison system and leaves there traumatized heavily.
TheWickedOne 3 years ago
If you learned to counterfeit money and B and E, you will get caught, just like them, they know nothing, lol
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#2
A friend of mine did some time. He had internet, PlayStation and a chef made breakfast and dinner every day. They had to make lunch themselves with access to a full complimentary kitchen. Knives, cutlery and so on was freely available.
They often want outside to shop groceries and some even went to work.
Basically, the only thing was to stay away from the sex offenders.
This was a medium security correctional facility in Norway.
Ludwig Michiel 3 years ago
Norway must have some of the most "luxurious" prisons in the world, yet they also have very low recedivism rates, so they must be doing something right.
J. F. 3 years ago (edited)
The idea behind most european prisons is re-integration into society, while the US is more meant for punishment during the stay (to compare industry nations)
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Robin Roper 3 years ago
Certainly, there are criminals that never need to see the light of day again. That said, the US. Jails in the US are horrible - petty, local good 'ol boys abusing the little power they have, financial gains by private companies from families trying to get money to their loved ones to buy enough food to not be hungry, horribly expensive calls over totally crappy phones - all abusive and inhumane. Jails in the US create criminals and there is nothing "rehabilitative" about them. Here's the thing folks - 99% of these people will return to your communities angry with fewer skills than they left with. They will cause more crime and harm. The US criminal justice system needs to wake up.
Julieandthephatones 3 years ago (edited)
and yet, refugees are stuck in poor conditions, in detention centers, running from wars with everything, to lose while sex offenders and murderers have better conditions!! 👿👿😡
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
It's a travesty but it happens and more. In a county jail in TN, the male trustees/ work crew would pick up beer and liquor, meet up with the female trustees for some jailhouse romance and more. A family member took me to visit my ex-husband while he was out on the work crew at the fairgrounds and we walked off up in a livestock barn loft and had some private time and none of the guards gave a s**t. I believe everything he told me went on there. Everyone will turn their heads for little to no reason but we certainly didn't have money to pay them off.
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Stijn Kraft 2 years ago
Imagine treating humans as humans. We choose not to be criminals and our background and circumstance helps with that, doesn't mean we have the same genes. Many people in prison, even the ones who did horrible things, are not that different from you and me. It's the super rich huge ruthless ones that get away with it that are the true evil. Not the ones that roll into the claws of crime out of necessity. Even I can figure that one out, and I only got parking tickets in my life and speeding offences of 3mph and less.
#3
I don't think the outside world realizes how racial prison life is. Even if you go into it with the most non-racial outlook, you better change that immediately or your life is in danger. I did a stint in Chino (California) in 1999 and a black guy gave me a fish sandwich (I'm white by the way) and next thing I know I'm being dragged into the back and assaulted by three other white guys. You don't play cards, make deals that involve open food, pretty much anything when it comes to races outside of your own. I didn't grow up with a racial outlook so I didn't even see or notice these things but I had to quickly to adjust.
CrunChewy McSandybutt 3 years ago
I had a cousin that was in and out of prison for most of his adult life. Around 40 years of age, he kicked smack and cleaned up. He had all kinds of white power tats removed over the next five years. I learned a lot about prison from him.
Jesus Ortiz 3 years ago
Because of the institutionalized racism that's inherent in the system. In my last few months, I was moved to another area to be a trustee (in every pod, there are 4 trustees that serve food trays, pick up the trays, clean up the day room, and do other stuff the guards don't want to do, etc.) Three of us were Hispanic, the fourth was a white supremacist. He knew his boundaries and even though he hated us and wanted to hurt us, especially me because I dared to talk back to him. He knew that the rest of the pod (which was mostly hispanic) would retaliate.
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Nicki 3 years ago
It is a breaded fish fillet on a hamburger bun (sometimes with ketchup or tartar sauce on it). It can be good, if done right 😊
Load More Replies... Mackenzie Raybourne 3 years ago
The term for this as far as I know is "judicial racism" and is the result of incarceration. I am not racist however during my prison sentence I knew my place because my safety literally depended on it. My cousin who is African American and Caucasian would often be bullied if she was seen on the walk jog with me and other girls she grew up with by groups of African American girls. They would yell across the yard " look at so and so with her white friends".
#4
Wear slippers in the shower.. and shower everyday.. not doing one of those gets you beat up here in California.
Katie Lutesinger 3 years ago
I stayed at a cheap youth hostel once, and I always wore thongs (flip-flops, to non Australians) in the shared bathroom because damn those floors were nasty.
Doug FM 3 years ago
Yup, if one person has it, everybody has it. Not fuzzy slippers though, rubber shower sandals
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#5
For me, the loss of everything outside of my body was the biggest shock. You have nothing they don't want you to have when you first go in, so in a way it's like being born into a new world, but fully aware. It's a steep learning curve to be sure, but truthfully, it isn't always cutthroat with nobody to trust. Sure there are people to avoid, and if you have a decent celly, they'll point them out, somewhat like Shawshank.
I was in medium security for 6 months on credit card fraud, so I wasn't near any expected dangerous people anyway, but there were still the territorial guys you just were better off avoiding.
Other than that...a LOT of reading for me, learning some basic card tricks from my celly....stuff like that. Not at all a desirable place to be IMO.
Jesus Ortiz 3 years ago
Also with reading, Dungeons & Dragons is an amazing time killer. As long as you have someone send you some resources from the outside. If you are good at being a dungeon master, you WILL be a coveted person. Others will even protect you, because the want you there, to continue to weave the story that takes their mind out of that hellhole. Sure, I had some people laugh at me, but those times playing were precious to me. I ran a campaign that went from February 2020 to August 2020. (I was in jail from January to October of that year) We played almost on a daily basis, and I made sure to give my cellmates the best darn campaign I could create!
Mackenzie Raybourne 3 years ago
Trying to do this in admissions with dice made from toilet paper mache is a challenge I faced!
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Uber Mensch 3 years ago
U.S. - Federal does *not* involve any kind of serious retraining or rehabilitation; if you're lucky, you can get certified for welding or forklift driver. Prison "jobs" (UniCor) do _not_ prepare the worker for outside (abysmal quality control). You want to better yourself, it's up to you to find a way and make it happen.
#6
Your word is everything. Breaking your word puts you roughly on par with a sex offender. You give your word on something, it needs to be gospel. Someone gives you theirs, assume it is too. And be ready to go if it isn't. It's not just worth fighting over, it's essential that you do.
Everything is for sale, or at least has a market value.
Sustained eye contact means you're starting s@#t. Someone makes it with you, assume they're sizing you up.
Don't do anything for free, unless it's for someone you know.
Erik Lawrence 3 years ago
how is that a "marriage picture"? its a pinky promise. just because its softly lit? because it shows hands? a single ring is visible?
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#7
Because of Hollywood I thought that prison had s@#t food and that guys just worked out all the time because they had nothing to do.
But then my uncle got locked up for 6 years and gained 50lbs and got diabetes.
Robin Roper 3 years ago
He gained weight because the food was s@#t - carbs and carbs topped off with carbs.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
Food in the prison/jail system is often pretty unhealthy, depending on who they contract it out to or if they let the inmates cook with some decent ingredients. Very easy to gain weight when many people sleep all day/aren't incentivized to move around much.
Mackenzie Raybourne 3 years ago
Aramark is a big one in Ohio and I think they also cater to the public school system...
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Beatrice Multhaupt 3 years ago
Weight gain can be a symptom of malnutrition or of a stealth infection like Epstein-Barr virus.
Thaddeus Thompson 3 years ago
You're uncle wasted his time. I came out after 8 years looking like an Avenger.
Claire Bee 3 years ago
So did this guy's uncle. Just because Thor looked like melted ice cream in Endgame doesn't mean he wasn't an Avenger.
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#8
Not a long timer here, but show everyone respect. If you bump into someone it is critical to say "I'm sorry man, I wasn't paying attention." You never shake hands, you fist bump. You can't be nice to the guards, just polite. There are a LOT more illiterate people than I ever thought possible.
Wesley Lucas 3 years ago
My husband did 11 months in Philadelphia before we had our son. He still talks about meeting illiterate folks in jail and not believing that our country could fail those people so badly.
Stijn Kraft 2 years ago
The illiterate thing shows you how a big part of being criminal is not being a horrible human being, just someone who didn't get chances. Shocked to see to how many of these I can say 'yup, in America that will happen'. This is not a worldwide list.
#9
I was in max security juvie. When I was getting screened they asked me "have you ever contemplated [taking your own life]?" Ever? Yeah, sure I've thought of it once or twice. Boom, [preventative] watch. No clothes, a tarp for a blanket and a tarp wrapped pillow. I was miserable and had to convince whoever was in charge that where was a misunderstanding. I wasn't in very long, but I'm pretty good with authority so my stint was fairly relaxed. Don't look at people, be respectful, and keep to yourself. I was 15 at the time.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
Suicide smocks. They look like quilted blankets that have velcro on the sides. Most suicides in jail/prison happen within the first 72 hours of intake and are overwhelmingly done by hanging. Very easy to turn a bedsheet/jumper into a noose if you're creative and really want to die. Only takes about 15 minutes and most would do it during shift change when officers are inbetween rounds.
over it already 3 years ago
Yep, one of the asshat brothers that killed my uncle and his partner got off easy this way
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#10
For the most part, it's not like you see in TV and Movies.
Don't start s@#t, but be willing able able to defend yourself, if need be.
Keep to yourself and don't stand out...in anyway. This also means don't be the "funny" guy that makes everyone laugh. You want to be as invisible as possible really.
Don't try to be nice and give people stuff. They will, at first, make it seem like it makes you cool with them, but it doesn't.
It's WAY louder ALL the time than you think it would be. There are always people who never seem to sleep.
Be prepared to lose privileges because of other idiots... will happen all the time.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
Older inmates will typically be quite annoyed with the younger ones who stir stuff up. One loudmouth can get a lot of people who are minding their own business into trouble.
Jesus Ortiz 3 years ago
I was 30 years old when I was in jail for 10 months. I had a 64, 53, 58, and mid 40's cell mates. For the majority of the time I was there. It was great with those guys. Especially the 53 year old guy, he was a very funny and crafty Vietnamese guy.
#11
I know someone who works for Dept of Corrections (CA). He says drones are where it's at. All kinds of crazy s@#t is brought in via drone right now and prisons are busting a#@ trying to figure out how to make them drone-proof, but for the moment it's a huge problem and changes everything about prison rules and behavior.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
I could see a lot of facilities putting up mesh/wire nets over their rec yards in the near future.
Saint Jimmy 3 years ago (edited)
Honestly that would be so horrible it could be considered inhumane
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Bobert Robertson 3 years ago (edited)
Drones can go crazy high, I doubt a guard would see it. Maybe hear it, but they are hard to spot right away so likely in and out before noticed... I know this because I have a drone and half the time I lose track of it before I spot it again
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Summer vacations.
Friend of mine was recently locked up during summer months. Because guards take vacation at the same time as everyone else, 3 days a week were spent on lockdown, meaning that 1-2 hours of outside time didn't apply due to staff shortage.
He's out now, and very thankful for his freedom.
Uber Mensch 3 years ago
Even worse now in the U.S. - Bureau of Prisons is averaging staff shortages of 30%, meaning they have to use non-guards to fill in. That works about as well as you might expect.
Nikki Sevven 3 years ago
Sadly, we're uncivilized here in the US. IMO, only violent offenders should be imprisoned, but it should still be rehabilitation-based. Non-violent offenders would be better sentenced to monitoring and community service.
Load More Replies... Jesus Ortiz 3 years ago
Luckily I was in jail during the beginning and middle of 2020, which coincided with the pandemic. So no one really left or had any crazy vacations. So in total, we didn't really have any lockdowns. I'm so lucky.
#13
TheGrandPubar said:
Where to put your hands since you don't have pockets to put them in.
onceuponathrow replied:
Most prisoners just let them flail about in the air. Not having pockets really f@#%s you up man.
FalconTurbo also replied:
I'm imagining that and it feels so awkward just thinking about it. Must be crazy to go for months like that.
#14
DrMeowbutuSeseSeko said:
The guards just sat and watched YouTube all day and night. Seems like a dream job if you've got no soul.
foul_ol_ron replied:
Had an uncle who was a guard. Said it was the most soul destroying job he'd ever had. He also said that most of the time, he got along better with the prisoners than the other guards.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
The crappiest officers would just kill time however they could. Our facility had blocks on MOST of the computers so you usually couldn't do much with them unless you were "lucky." Engaging with the inmates you'd meet some really interesting characters. As long as you were careful to not show favoritism/get too personal with them you could have reasonably fulfilling days when things were going well. I'll never forget some of the people I met in there.
v 3 years ago
Maybe this is because the majority of the guards who still have legal employment are nothing more than wolves in sheep's clothing? It's long been known and understood that there are two primary types of people who go into law enforcement. 1. Those who want to control. 2. Those who were picked on or otherwise ostracized in childhood. The remaining, vanishingly small, percentage of LEO's are those who actually want to accomplish something good in a cesspool environment.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
They're not all garbage. The salary is attractive for some people, and the job has benefits (insurance). That being said: there are a lot of awful people employed. On one end you have dispassionate jerks, on the other you have people that will try to make money off the broken system. Like people who will bring in drugs, tobacco, etc. Meanwhile there exists a minority who are good people, need a job, have empathy, and have an uphill battle making their way in harsh environment. This is a tough career and it changes people forever.
Load More Replies... Saint Jimmy 3 years ago
My grandmother had been a guard in a prison in Texas. She didn't say much about her work but what she did was horrible. She talked about how she would watch Netflix and teases prisoners if they didn't seem emotionally stable. I most specifically remember her talking about how one man who was on suicide watch had made a dress out of trash bags, she said that because of how hard it was for the prisoners on suicides watch to get trash bags (or anything else that could be used to hang one's self) it must have taken him a long time to collect the supplies and actually make a dress. She then told me she took the dress and wore it around poking fun at the man who made it before shredding it with her scissors. The worst part is that she told this to little 10 year old me thinking it was hilarious.
buttonpusher 3 years ago (edited)
Anyone remember that experiment they did in a prison setting to see how people would act if given power over others? Those appointed guards acted like d***s. My memory is fuzzy.
Jesus Ortiz 3 years ago
Luckily, the guards in the jail I was in didn't have any blocks. One time, I saw a guard browsing the GLOCK website shopping for holsters. The Joe Rogan podcast was very popular to many guards. For the night shift, I saw guards bringing in their laptops to watch movies.
#15
I've been out for fifteen years or so, tobacco was the basic currency when I was there, but you can't smoke in Canadian prisons anymore. Been out of touch with any criminals too long to say for sure.
Any street clothes are always worth something, shoes especially, but not all joints let you have them. Walkmans and any game controller with rumble, because the motor could be used for a tattoo gun. Pigma pens, because the ink worked for tattooing, and a limited number of inmates could purchase them.
BigBoi 3 years ago
Wait wait, I can take my friends X360 controller and give myself an impromptu tattoo?
John C 3 years ago
If you're willing to dedicate the time an inmate has to making it work, sure!
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Steffen Rehm 3 years ago
I see so many people with prison marks at work. Like teardrops or dots on hands and i mean a significant number. Young and old an all men. Still wonder why they get them, i mean, it is a stigma.
#16
No one tells you how hungry you're gonna be. The food sucks, not just sucks its absolutely not fit for human consumption. But you get hungry enough to eat it. They only serve 1200 calories a day in women's prison. At least mine. You'd better hope you have canteen coming. Better hope someone out there cares enough to send it to you. And hopefully they send you enough money, because women in prison have to use canteen money to buy shampoo, conditioner, hairbrushes, toothpaste, toothbrush, deodorant, pads and tampons, any type of Tylenol or stomach medication, cause if you get headache or stomach ache it'll take a week to get seen. You need to buy everything, and even though you're hungry enough to not be able to sleep, you still need tampons.
Sanguinius 3 years ago (edited)
https://sylviassisters.org/ Sylvia's Sisters is a charity that was founded by a woman who experienced how prevalent period poverty is in prisons, and went on to create this organization to try and get period products in the hands of those who need them. My partner writes their newsletter. It's run by a bunch of sweet old ladies and I've participated in a few of their events.
Parmeisan 3 years ago
1200 calories is below the safe limit for women. I was trying to lose weight and went to 1300 for a short period of time and my doctor told me not to go that low. 1400 absolute lowest, otherwise you can suffer long-term health effects. So yeah, that's just "awesome" that we've made that the standard for the most vulnerable group in society...
Mandi 3 years ago
Working in the kitchen you could read on the side of the boxes that our food came in "Zoo Animals ONLY!" "Not For Human Consumption!" @Neal Definitely no entitlement issues when "Paying for things" im prison is double and sometimes TRIPLE than real life. Depending on the product you were purchasing. Don't be a d**k! Especially when you ain't been there and know nothing of the situation!
#17
KronoakSCG said:
Guards get worried if you sleep all the time
Escobarhunter asked:
Why?
KronoakSCG
Well, they either think you're depressed or think you're dead. Neither one is good and they don't want you to be either.
buttonpusher 3 years ago
If I was in prison I'd be trying to sleep as much as possible to pass the time.
Autumn Artemis 3 years ago
What do they do about it? Wake you up all the time? I’m genuinely curious-
I I 3 years ago
24 hour suicide watch is not fun for neither the guards or prisoner
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#18
Current prisoner here, in The Philippines. Anything can be smuggled in if you pay the right guards. Money = power. You can get away with almost anything if you have enough money.
Erik Lawrence 3 years ago
holy s**t, you mean there are commonalities? no way.
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Mandi 3 years ago
Seriously? You're confused? Did you not understand the meaning of "anything"?
Load More Replies... Katie Lutesinger 3 years ago
"Haven't you heard the Golden Rule? He who has the gold makes the rules."
#19
Anyway, I know there's a huge difference between men's and women's jails, and a huge difference between jail and prison. But one thing that no one tells you is that it's going to be so boring. So endlessly boring. Luckily, for women and state prison, there are a lot of programs and jobs available to fill your time, but there's always a wait. And everything in jail takes forever. And you have to be in for a certain amount of time before you qualify for a lot of things. They don't tell you how hard it is to be that bored. You have to make the most of it, and while I didn't enjoy my stays there, I always ended up being able to make the most of it and have a good time.
Sinkvenice 3 years ago
In England it's just prison. What's the difference between jail and prison?
Sanguinius 3 years ago
Typically a jail is your first stop after being arrested for a crime. If you're found to be a flight risk/can't make bond you'll stay in jail until you go to court. Some people will be released at that point and have a follow-up date. More major/complicated crimes will see you sent back to jail until your case is concluded and you're sentenced. Once you get your sentence, and it's over a certain amount of time (in my facility it was more than 2 years or more than 24 months, wording is important) you would then qualify for transfer to a prison. In my experience, inmates were happier being sent to prison than staying in jail. Jails typically have stricter control over inmate movement (stricter segregation due to the need to keep co-defendants from coordinating their case), lack programs (like GED, Adult Education, Job training, etc), have worse food and medical, and are in bad shape for staff so lockdowns are frequent. Prison is more open, with more time outside the cells.
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Mackenzie Raybourne 3 years ago (edited)
The county commissioners in my state fund jails with county taxes and run and make money from the county jails which house felons only until sentencing or upon an agreement for low level felons. Prisons are run by private entities and house only felons.
#20
I had to learn that it didn't matter if I got beat up as long as I still stood up for myself. I came in fearing the inevitable knockout (I'm 5'4 and 125 lbs and not a fighter but I'm also not a punk and I don't keep my mouth shut for nobody), but yea I eventually got my butt kicked. Out of the 8 fights while I was in there I lost 6 of them but even though I got beat up people ended up respecting me. And there is nothing worse than total isolation from everything. Yea, it might be calming for a day or two but after thirty days, you start to lose it... I also learned that it didn't matter if you started a fight or not—if you fight, you go to the hole if you get caught in Texas.
Saint Jimmy 3 years ago
Ngl, Texas is not a fun place if you aren't a high class 50+ white man
#21
I am not a prisoner and never have served time but for almost a year I teach in a prison full time, my office is in a minimum security prison so its extremely laid back, our currency here is not ramen though, its actually stamps, stamps are apparently used for currency to get other items from inmates, its like a legal tender here within the prison. The inmates here are all pretty much laid back, hard to get the younger guys to pay attention in class but the older guys have some wisdom for sure.
#22
Well, one my first night in prison, after lights out, one of the prisoners yelled "63!" The entire prison started laughing. I asked my cellmate what I was missing. He told me that they had all been in their so long that they had the same jokes. To save time, the just decided to number them. I asked if I could give it a whirl. I shouted "37!" The prison erupted into the most loud laughter I have ever heard. I ask my cellmate what joke I just told and he responded, "I don't know, I haven't heard that one before."
Wandaluzt 3 years ago
Not now no. Its a copy pasted Reddit post from 5 years ago on a clickbait site.
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Manfred Rohrwasser 3 years ago
I know this is annoying, but this joke is normally told with a much higher number for the second 'joke' as they would presumably be numbering the jokes in order. Its also better for clarity if the cellmate says: "We've never heard that one before!" Just in case you want to tell this joke at Christmas, you'll have better luck making these corrections.
Art Erickson 3 years ago
Old joke. The ending I heard 20 years ago was "you didn't tell it right." Or "it's all in the delivery."
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#23
rot117 said:
If there's a candy bar on your bed when you get there DO NOT eat or keep it give it to someone else.
munkipawse asked:
Why? You have me curious about the reason.
rot117 explained:
Cause if you eat or keep it whoever put it there will most likely make it seem like you owe him or you might get a bad surprise.
#24
I would say the most surprising to me is that the inmates all do the same things, almost like they train each other to be inmates. For example: when they hold cigarettes and smoke, they all do it facing away from the officers station, they all sit on the beds in the same pattern, etc. If they see an officer coming onto the wing, they all yell "one time" to warn their friends to hide their s@#t. A more experienced officer can even spot inmates with "roles", which (in simple examples) you could have two inmates come up to distract you, while another one does something they're not supposed to. Or you could have one being irritating and trying to get on your nerves, so that another inmate will come up and offer to get him to stop. If you agree, the one stopping him will begin to act very friendly, and could start asking you to smuggle phones, or allow him and his buddies special privileges.
Sanguinius 3 years ago
If someone you don't usually chat with comes up and starts acting especially friendly, they're covering something up. Often it will be tattooing, fighting, or f*cking. Those are the three I would always keep an eye out for. A smart officer will invite the inmate to continue conversing with him while he does a round so the guy won't run back to tell whoever he's covering for. If he doesn't follow, watch where he goes.
#25
My dad did time. Got kitchen duty. Was serving food. Dude said to my pops "you better put more on this plate" my dad new If he did he would be considered a b***ch. He dropped the dude right in line. Had to go to seg but when he got out was considered the man of the pod. My 5'11 glasses wearing white father. It makes me smile thinking about it.
Davo gifman 3 years ago
He wasn't an employee; he was an inmate. 99% prison kitchen staff are inmates. Just a heads up.
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What do you think ?
Brandon Marlowe 3 years ago
Our entire criminal justice system is a disgrace. Poorly trained, sometimes racist police who are not a part of the community they're supposed to be serving is a huge problem. Prosecutors who seek a conviction regardless of guilt instead of pursuing justice is just plain wrong. Draconian sentences handed down by politically needy judges are a travesty. And "for profit" prisons are a dismal shame.
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Donkey boi 3 years ago
My cousin did 8 months inside a notorious prison in the UK. His cellmate as a white supremacist serving multiple life sentences for murder. This guy had Nazi insignia tattooed all over his massive body and a history of hospitalising his cell mates. My cousin lived in constant fear for 8 months (He got hit a few times and had his cheekbone broken). With his sentence done he was released. Fast forward 2 years and my other cousin (1st one's younger brother) gets 18 months for racially aggravated assault (a crime he didn't actually commit), and gets sent to the same prison and put in a cell with the Nazi hulk. Now, cousin 2 is a tiny, kind, sweet natured (if somewhat a little "different") young man. Putting him in a cell with that filth is akin to putting Bambi in the lions enclosure. The whole family was so worried about him (especially because he was innocent and didn't deserve to be there). At first visitation, his mother, almost too afraid to ask, wanted to know how things were. Cont..
Donkey boi 3 years ago
This poor, fragile, sweet, innocent young man said, 'Oh my GOD, It's soo much fun! He's reeaally good at "I-spy", he can think of load of things. Ooo! And we were playing hide and seek this morning, and he took forever to find me. I was under my blanket!'. It turns out that my little cousin had this Neo-Nazi, brick shithouse, murderer playing hide and seek in a tiny cell, where there really was no place to hide, and they pretended they couldn't find eachother, walking around going 'Hmmm, well he's behind the toilet.... and he's not in the tobacco tin... I wonder here he could be...'. By the end of my little cousins term, The Godzilla of Nazis had expressed a wish to have his tattoos removed and had changed (some of) his views. It would appear that even the worst people in the world cannot stand up to the innocence of my cousin.
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Uber Mensch 3 years ago (edited)
The U.S. has 5% of the world population ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population ) but *25%* of the world's inmates ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate ). We aren't rehabilitating offenders, just warehousing them. As I heard one inmate express it "I'm not reformed, I'm just PISSED!"
ZAPanda 3 years ago
Interesting, thanks. What fascinates me is how society assumes this is even necessary. Sure, for violent guys who really are out of control - people who pose physical threats - but really? There are plenty of crimes which are trivial and need to be dealt with using preventative measures. Shoplifting, drug possession, financial crimes - all of these are preventable and do not directly kill anyone. Look for example how Portugal handles the drug issue.
Moezzzz 3 years ago
I spent a night in jail. It was probably the worst experience of my life. I was jailed as a scare tactic, but honestly I had no idea what or who they wanted from me. Told me I better write some names in blood while I spent the night locked up. I was terrified. So, at one point I had an issue with opiates. I had legitimate prescriptions, but had an ex that was hell bent on destroying my life, & convinced his cop buddies that I was selling or buying drugs (he was a fire captain- WAS). I was taking more than I should have, but wasn't doing anything illegal. So, eventually everything was thrown out of court, but it was awful. For the most part, the women were nice, but a few were waaaay too comfortable being there, there were 3 ELDERLY ladies there and the guards were straight up assholes. I cried all night long. Literally. What this ex didn't know was that I was friends with the Assistant District Attorney in the next city & he had me out the next morning. Ended up moving to get away-
Moezzzz 3 years ago
From him, but yeah. I should have left him a long time ago. I've since stopped taking those meds, even though I have a spinal stimulator implant and brittle bones, just bc I tended to take a few more than I should have when I was with that guy JUST to be able to deal with his crap (severe alcoholic and abusive; which is how he lost his job, too). So, now I chose to deal with pain in my own way, as holistically as possible. But yeah, that one night inspired me to NEVER be put in a situation like that again.
Load More Replies... CrunChewy McSandybutt 3 years ago
I'd like to know how prisons in countries other than the USA work. I think the Norwegian post was the only non-American post.
Brandon Marlowe 3 years ago
Our entire criminal justice system is a disgrace. Poorly trained, sometimes racist police who are not a part of the community they're supposed to be serving is a huge problem. Prosecutors who seek a conviction regardless of guilt instead of pursuing justice is just plain wrong. Draconian sentences handed down by politically needy judges are a travesty. And "for profit" prisons are a dismal shame.
Load More Replies... Donkey boi 3 years ago
My cousin did 8 months inside a notorious prison in the UK. His cellmate as a white supremacist serving multiple life sentences for murder. This guy had Nazi insignia tattooed all over his massive body and a history of hospitalising his cell mates. My cousin lived in constant fear for 8 months (He got hit a few times and had his cheekbone broken). With his sentence done he was released. Fast forward 2 years and my other cousin (1st one's younger brother) gets 18 months for racially aggravated assault (a crime he didn't actually commit), and gets sent to the same prison and put in a cell with the Nazi hulk. Now, cousin 2 is a tiny, kind, sweet natured (if somewhat a little "different") young man. Putting him in a cell with that filth is akin to putting Bambi in the lions enclosure. The whole family was so worried about him (especially because he was innocent and didn't deserve to be there). At first visitation, his mother, almost too afraid to ask, wanted to know how things were. Cont..
Donkey boi 3 years ago
This poor, fragile, sweet, innocent young man said, 'Oh my GOD, It's soo much fun! He's reeaally good at "I-spy", he can think of load of things. Ooo! And we were playing hide and seek this morning, and he took forever to find me. I was under my blanket!'. It turns out that my little cousin had this Neo-Nazi, brick shithouse, murderer playing hide and seek in a tiny cell, where there really was no place to hide, and they pretended they couldn't find eachother, walking around going 'Hmmm, well he's behind the toilet.... and he's not in the tobacco tin... I wonder here he could be...'. By the end of my little cousins term, The Godzilla of Nazis had expressed a wish to have his tattoos removed and had changed (some of) his views. It would appear that even the worst people in the world cannot stand up to the innocence of my cousin.
Load More Replies... Uber Mensch 3 years ago (edited)
The U.S. has 5% of the world population ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population ) but *25%* of the world's inmates ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate ). We aren't rehabilitating offenders, just warehousing them. As I heard one inmate express it "I'm not reformed, I'm just PISSED!"
ZAPanda 3 years ago
Interesting, thanks. What fascinates me is how society assumes this is even necessary. Sure, for violent guys who really are out of control - people who pose physical threats - but really? There are plenty of crimes which are trivial and need to be dealt with using preventative measures. Shoplifting, drug possession, financial crimes - all of these are preventable and do not directly kill anyone. Look for example how Portugal handles the drug issue.
Moezzzz 3 years ago
I spent a night in jail. It was probably the worst experience of my life. I was jailed as a scare tactic, but honestly I had no idea what or who they wanted from me. Told me I better write some names in blood while I spent the night locked up. I was terrified. So, at one point I had an issue with opiates. I had legitimate prescriptions, but had an ex that was hell bent on destroying my life, & convinced his cop buddies that I was selling or buying drugs (he was a fire captain- WAS). I was taking more than I should have, but wasn't doing anything illegal. So, eventually everything was thrown out of court, but it was awful. For the most part, the women were nice, but a few were waaaay too comfortable being there, there were 3 ELDERLY ladies there and the guards were straight up assholes. I cried all night long. Literally. What this ex didn't know was that I was friends with the Assistant District Attorney in the next city & he had me out the next morning. Ended up moving to get away-
Moezzzz 3 years ago
From him, but yeah. I should have left him a long time ago. I've since stopped taking those meds, even though I have a spinal stimulator implant and brittle bones, just bc I tended to take a few more than I should have when I was with that guy JUST to be able to deal with his crap (severe alcoholic and abusive; which is how he lost his job, too). So, now I chose to deal with pain in my own way, as holistically as possible. But yeah, that one night inspired me to NEVER be put in a situation like that again.
Load More Replies... CrunChewy McSandybutt 3 years ago
I'd like to know how prisons in countries other than the USA work. I think the Norwegian post was the only non-American post.
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