Misdiagnoses can have serious consequences on a person’s health. They can delay recovery and sometimes call for treatment that is harmful.
Yet, an estimated 12 million Americans a year are misdiagnosed with a condition they don’t have. Moreover, for approximately 40,500 people who enter an intensive care unit in one year, a misdiagnosis will cost them their lives. The numbers are self-evident.
For many of these cases, things would have taken a very different turn if the patients had sought a second opinion from a professional. So this Reddit thread sheds a light on the importance of a second opinion, as shared by the doctors themselves as well as the patients who have been there.
“Doctors of Reddit, what's your ’Thank god they came in for a second opinion’ moment?” someone asked and the responses came rolling in. Below we wrapped up some of the most interesting responses.
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Not a doc, but happened to my wife and I. She was 3 months pregnant and did ultrasound. All normal. Baby heart rate was 99, and healthy. However for some reason, the ultrasound tech forgot to measure something and doc ordered a second ultrasound. Second appt in about a month, as my wife wanted to delay as she hated having to drink so much and not pee so the ultrasound comes out clearer. I couldn't be with her for second ultrasound as work got in the way. However she calls me tearfully saying that the doctor ordered she abort the fetus for her safety and her health and she insisted on calling me to let me know before she did the procedure. Apparently the baby heart rate hadn't changed since first ultrasound a month ago, and this was bad enough to put mom at risk in pregnancy. I f*****g flew to the hospital. I can't remember how I got there but I crossed heavy traffic to the hospital in about 10 Min of what is normally a 20min trip. Parked on curb, jumped out and rushed to her room. Thankfully nothing happened to her yet. And I just camped there insisting on another ultrasound. I kept telling the doctor it was a copy paste error. You see, the heart rate from first ultrasound to second was exactly the same. I knew - just knew, that the tech copy pasted the first report and forgot to update that rate. I screamed bloody murder if anyone would touch my wife. Security was almost called until another doc came in and said just do another ultrasound to decide the issue. The ordered a second ultrasound and heartrate was normal. My son is now 10 and I remember that fear and rage everyday I look at him.
Reminds me of my 1st child's birth. I was in labor for 13 hours got pitocin and the whole deal. I had an epidural but was still feeling so much pressure insisting I had to push. The dr checked and said not yet. I kept telling them that something was wrong then and to do an ultrasound. They basically ignored me and about 5min later the baby's heart monitor goes crazy her heart rate is 222 . I finally get that ultrasound showing my baby's face, she was sunny side up, which is not the safest and she was stuck. Emergency c section and baby was fine thankfully but it was very scary and might not have been so traumatic if they had listened.
Birth trauma is a very serious problem, my sincere sympathies.
Load More Replies...When my mom was pregnant with me, her doc did an amniocentesis. My mom repeatedly told him that she was further along than he thought and therefore out of range for the test. He had a nurse call her at work to set up an abortion because the test came back saying I'd have severe disabilities. She was furious and changed docs instead.
His anger is completely understandable. Birth statistics for women of color are staggering. My sister had a hr in the 200s for over two hrs, yet the nurses did nothing. When my mom walked in the room she raised the alarm. They didn't do anything until my mom called her obgyn. I heard they got cussed out before running in and out of my sisters room to fix her hr. Yes people make mistakes. But bias in the healthcare system still exist.
I don't get how heart rate 99 one day is good, and having the same heart rate a few weeks later is so dangerous they recommend abortion.
99 is not even good heart rate for a fetus its 110-160 And in what country they abort a pregnancy based on a uss
Load More Replies...When it comes to your health, you really have to advocate for yourself and loved ones. You simply can not trust the medical community absolutely. All it takes is one person making a mistake and your life is upended, yet they carry on like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and move on to the next poor soul.
Had a trama birth on my 1 and only kid and the 2nd day a doc took my child with my husband der up for brain scans and blood tests ect, i said u have wrong baby, he pushed passed me and asked my husband to "look after her" i screamed the place down telling him 2 get his fu#king hands off my child and do his job properly, when he found out it WAS THE WRONG baby he didnt even say sorry 🤬
Reminds me of my second pregnancy. Killer migraines. Heaps of 24-hour-urine collections (try doing that when working full time). Two docs were convinced I had preeclampsia and wanted to induce me. Shift change and the next doctor flat out told me: I have seem preeclampsia and you haven't got it. She sent me home. The next day the original two docs called me to urgently come back in. Induced that night and woosh... all symptoms suddenly disappeared.He (the baby) is now a health 14-year-old and I will forever be grateful do Dr. Bryonie and Dr Ryan. Not so fond of Dr Renee...
Eye Doctor here. I had a patient I saw several months before they came in for their visit but well less than a year, which often means something could be wrong. In this case, as it turns out, nothing was wrong with her by way of complaints, she just wanted to get updated before getting some new glasses. We decided to just run the regular gamut of tests anyway just because we might as well while she was there. She was a 50YO woman, fairly normal exam, perfect vision, retinas showed healthy, but something about her pupils really bothered me before I dilated. We chatted about it and I asked her if she banged her head or anything weird and she said no, but suddenly reveals this crazy history of an old Meningioma (a type of tumorous brain growth) she had removed a few years ago. She had decided to omit this from her history with us as she didn't feel it was important, but we went and put it into the charts anyway. Turns out she got a CT done two weeks prior to her exam with me which she says turns up completely normal. I tell her she should tell her doctor about this anyway just to cover our bases.
Fast Forward: Patient shows up in my office ecstatic to tell me that my examination revealed that her tumor had returned with an incredible vengeance. She had no idea, was totally asymptomatic and the CT she had prior to me showed what was very literally the size of a spec of dust which the radiologist dismissed as "artifact". On her return to her doctor, they decided to re-run the CT to cover THEIR Bases, and they found a QUARTER SIZED TUMOR. Within Two Weeks the tumor went from the size of a dust particle to a QUARTER. She was rushed into emergency surgery as the tumor was growing SUPER fast and was close to a blood vessel which could cause a massive stroke. She had it removed that day and returned to me after recovery to tell me of what got discovered as a result of my testing. She is now a long time regular patient I have been seeing for about 10 years.
Edit: For those asking about the pupils, they were asymmetric, and the larger one reacted less robustly compared to the fellow eye. This was a marked change from her previous examinations where no pupillary defects were noted.
Okay, hang on to your seats. We were going through IVF treatment in hopes of getting pregnant. Earlier in the cycle there had been a mix up with my hormonal medication. Apparently because there was a lady with the same date of birth and nearly the same name as me undergoing the same treatment. Fast forward to the actual insemination. Because of the earlier mix up, I insist they double check they have the right sperm before they use it on me. The doctor laughs it off. I insist. The doctor sighs and shows me the name on the sperm sample. IT WASN'T MY HUSBANDS!
How in the spicy fresh fuqed up hell are some of these people doctors?!
Load More Replies...So many people dismiss how important Eye exams are. The ophthalmologist’s’ office I worked for had to remind so many patients of their medical diagnoses to get them to come get checked. And the times a simple eye exam can find cancer, in the eye or brain both. Get your eyes checked people!!! You can’t get a replacement. Editing to add, Get a quality examiner. My brain tumor could have been found years earlier if the dang LensCrafters “doc” had accepted there might be a reason I was failing the visual field test instead of just retesting me until I passed.
People dismiss it in the US because eyes aren't part of normal health insurance for really dumb reasons. Idk about the rest of the world.
Load More Replies...Hallelujah for eye doctors! I had an incident that I was 100% certain was a TIA, or ministroke. I had a run-in with the triage nurse who refused to let me be seen in a timely manner. I was never even offered an aspirin. The doctor, based SOLELY on what the nurse said, concluded that I had a panic attack. My best friend is prone to TIAs and strokes. That is how I knew the symptoms, but in their infinite wisdom, they chose to believe I was an attention seeker and sent me home. My vision had been affected, and my amazing eye doc had MRIs done. I had damage to my optic nerve which proved that I should have been believed. He was furious!
My ophthalmologist saw that my optic nerve was swollen. Had an MRI that day. Brain tumor the size of a tennis ball. No symptoms. The tumor was benign. The doctor saved my life. Always get your eyes examed by an ophthalmologist.
And that is why asymmetrical pupils are a Red Alert no matter what your radiologist says.
Including pets! I noticed my friend’s cat’s eyes didn’t match. Unfortunately it was too late but she was able to keep him comfortable until the end.
Load More Replies...Went to eye Dr for regular check for twitching and to check if there is any change in my glasses. Turns out optic neuritis, underwent MRI to access the damage, got admitted and started with the steroids. All these in the span of 3hrs. This was 8yrs back and since then I regularly visit my eye Dr for regular checkup just to check on the relapse.
This is why people need to do a better job with knowing their health history and documenting it completely!
There's so much that can be discovered from regular eye exams. Optometrists are front-line observers of your health.
ER nurse here. Had a lady in for simple pneumonia. Her 13 year old son was getting bored, so I showed him some equipment. I connected a simple heart monitor to him and discovered he was in a complete heart block. I printed a strip and showed it to the doc. Hmmm.... We suddenly and unexpectedly got a cardiac patient.
Yes. But 13 and bored are synonyms. Thank goodness for the ER nurse taking interest in him.
Load More Replies...I am a Paramedic. One of my co-workers went to a school to show the kids what we do, and attached a cardiac monitor on one of them. He noticed she had telltale signs of Wolf Parkinson White syndrome (episodes of dangerously fast heart rate). He told her parents and she was tested and found to have it. They were able to treat it before she had serious problems.
a disruption in the electrical signals that tell your heart's ventricles to pump blood. it can range from having slower signals (slightly abnormal heart rate or rhythm) to complete blockage (signals don't go through, ventricles try to beat on their own making it very hard to get enough blood to the body). this kid could've experienced heart failure or cardiac arrest, or at least damaged some of his internal organs.
Load More Replies...He could have been one of those high school athletes who just drop dead without warning.
I have a story, not very dramatic, but kinda painful: One time I got sick, I coughed for a month before I went to doctor, who prescribed some antibiotics. After coughing some more for the week eating the antibiotics, the cough got so bad, I felt like my ribs were broken on both sides, I couldn’t get up from bed by myself and breathing hurt. (I’ve since broken couple ribs, and the pain was same) I went back to the same doctor, who told me I was too sick for her to treat, and sent me to ER. I drove 80 km to ER, waited 5 hours and they prescribed me some more antibiotics, and told me they wouldn’t do an x-ray to my lungs because I was pregnant. This repeated 2 more times. During the third or fourth antibiotic I developed the worst headache I’ve ever had. Went to ER, and they discovered a sinus infection, spread to my frontal sinus and probably about to go into my skull (which is sort of bad) Got IV antibiotics for a while, and 7 sinus punctions on both sides over 2 weeks. (it is horrible)
Hope you’re feeling better now, your baby is just fine, and you and your doctor have figured out a solution or treatment for your sinus issues. I have bad sinuses too, and am always on the lookout for sinus headaches and all related issues that go on too long or get worse even when treated.
Load More Replies...My son was about one month old and was s******g small amounts of blood. And getting worse Pediatrician ignored us because new parents. Second trip to pediatrician and I refused to leave. It said “something is wrong and we aren’t leaving”. About that moment he s**t his diaper full of blood and the pediatrician freaked out and sent us straight to emergency. The doctors there ordered several different bacterial tests. Just before they sent the test upstairs, an OLD doctor came in. Asked us a few questions and told the tech to test for one more type of bacteria. That was the one. C-diff. 25% fatality rate untreated. Worse in infants. Thank you old man doctor.
Why, oh why are some doctors so dismissive on grounds completely unrelated to the problem at hand? How the hell is blood in poop less worthy of being treated because its a baby from first time parents? Yes it might be that they are overzealous, but is that worth risking letting a baby die and just not looking?
Nurse here. C-diff diarrhea has a specific smell to it. Yes, a bit of experience to become familiar with it. Soon as a patient had diarrhea they went into isolation, just in case. But the ones whose diarrhea had that smell, we knew. Get ready. This is going to be awful. Surprising how many medical professionals miss that. If your child is pooping blood get thee to an ER. Bypass the family MD.
Oh hello fellow nurse whose nose knows. Also walking onto the ward and *whack* "ok which bed has the UTI?"
Load More Replies...Makes me think of my mom, who had a heart bypass in 2002. After the op, she kept complaining that she couldn't breathe. Like it would take her 45 minutes to eat a meal because she had to stop and catch her breath in between bites. The nurses would take her plate away after 20 minutes so she wasn't even getting proper meals. The nurses also ignored her complaints about the breathing because they said, "Oh, since she's a smoker it's emphysema, and they always complain." I'M SORRY WHAT. A physician and the surgeon both told her the same thing. Finally, another doctor comes in and actually listens, sends her for X-rays and discovers so much water in her lungs she'd almost drowned on dry land. They took 5 LITRES of fluid out of her lungs. If I ever have to go to hospital, I'm not going to the Union (Alberton, Gauteng), that's for darn sure. But Dr Mamorare, wherever you are, thank you for listening to my mom and letting us have her for longer.
Bloody stool is never good, no matter age or situation. And always ask for a C diff test. it should be standard, and as an MD, I've no idea why it isn't.
My sister called me from her son’s pediatrician’s office once in hysterics. Her son was ill and had a rash on his legs that was unusual to her. They kept telling her he had a cold. She screamed and refused to leave because she insisted there was something wrong. I left work and met her there. Finally, an OLDer physician came by to console her and noted that he was showing symptoms of spinal meningitis. My nephew, with his mother, was transported by ambulance to the hospital. He remained on life support for 36 hours. Had it not been for her maternal instincts and those of an experienced physician . . .
Oh my god, poor baby! I had c- diff and it was borrible. My gut flora & fauna will never be the same!
I'm so tired of incompetent doctors. They're so arrogant they just dismiss you and move on.
THIS. My school doctor was an incompetent bastard who always made me feel stupid for being ill, and never treated emergencies like he was supposed to. F**k you, Dr. Musayón!
Load More Replies...Though medical science has steadily improved in the past century, sometimes what’s needed is something that can’t be taught; years and years of experience while those improvements are happening. The younger doctors just hadn’t experienced the effects of the bacteria the old doctor said to order tests for—-I don’t know, is it pretty rare to see these days?—-because the older doctor did have that experience. Considering that anti-vaxxers are solely responsible for the return of so many diseases that used to be considered almost completely eradicated, it might be a good idea to listen to older doctors, especially those old enough to have treated those diseases before vaccinations for them were created and disbursed.
This is a good baby, pooping at the right minute. 😇 In my family, a lot of times we are really sick but then the symptoms mysteriously pause as soon as we're in the doctor's office.
I have a story of a friend who was severely mismanaged. I've probably posted it before, but I'm to lazy to look. For 2 years, my friend had been going to her GP complaining about migraines, bouts of severe vomiting, and dizzy spells. Every time, he would order bloodwork, then tell her she was fine. One morning, she woke up, and after a sexy morning with her husband, could barely stand. She was so dizzy and had such a bad migraine. She told her husband not to worry, sent him to work and had her neighbour driver her to the emergency room. She doesnt remember arriving. When she got there, she started acting erratic. They had to sedate her, and sent her for a CT scan of her head. There, they noticed a huge mass in her brain. The hospital wasnt equipped to deal with that, so they sent her by ambulance to the nearest hospital that could, a 4 hour drive away. This hospital immediately sent her for an MRI. It wasnt a mass. They could actually see the "mass" growing as they did the MRI. No, she was having a massive stroke. She was immediately taken in for surgery. They put in a stent, and had to remove most of the left side of her brain as it was all dead. Afterwards, she was in a coma for nearly 72 hours. They were uncertain if she would wake up, and if she did, if she would ever recover. Thankfully, she did. It took almost a year of physio, and speech therapy (among a few others), but she has made almost a complete recovery. They even had their first child 8 months ago. Turns out, she had incredibly high cholesterol. With all the bloodwork that was done, her GP should have caught it. When she confronted him, he told her that her diagnosis was wrong. That she hadn't had a stroke and had made it up. She went after his license.
I hope he lost everything and his family disowned him for saying that, Cant belive he said she made it up even AFTER she had the surgery
And almost lost her life and in a coma with records to prove it. And the physical/speech therapy. Really?
Load More Replies...The surgeon that killed my mother refused to see me after the surgery and refused to sign the death certificate. But he will always remember me. I forced myself into the surgical suite before the operation began. It's a very long story....the surgical team told me to take off my mask and kiss my mother good-bye. I did.
This recently happened to my very healthy 25 yr old son. He had symptoms and went to the ER and instead of doing anything to help him, they said he must be on drugs or have an STD. They said he was to young to have had a stroke so they refused an MRI. I didn't know about it for 2 days bc no one called me. When I couldn't reach him I called the hospitals and found him. When I got there I went crazy on them and they did an MRI. Brain surgery. Twice. Coma.
Oh, that's heart-breaking, I am so very sorry. What a lovely photo of your son as well.
Load More Replies...And that's the guy who not only graduated last in his class but got his specialty in "family medicine". He'd be about qualified to catch a cold. I say that with great love for the family docs I've known who are geniuses, and utter contempt for others. While high cholesterol doesn't mean you'll have a stroke, you sure as heck aren't at *lower* risk for 'em! Fatty embolism can kill. MD out.
Even the worst doctor should know when to refer out to a specialist.
Load More Replies...Hope he lost it! Said they were wrong!!!??? After surgery that showed that??? Half he brain tissue was dead?? I’d have been hard pressed not to deck him at that point.
Medical gaslighting. I hope he lost EVERYTHING. No one needs to be treated by such an incompetent fraud.
God i don't usually genuinely want to commit felonies but if I had a knife and that man within reach I don't know what I would do
Exactly why I will not go to male docs. Arrogant and dismissive to women.
I have had female doctors like that. I find it depends on the doctor, not their sex.
Load More Replies...Not a doctor, and this isn't about a human. On New Year's Day, 2 years ago, our little hound dog would not get out of bed. Her back half was unresponsive, and she would yelp in pain if anyone touched her. We took her to the emergency vet, the only place open to get care on January 1. We were there for 6 hours. The place was a mad house. Eventually, doc checks out our pupper. They take a bunch of x-rays, and the doctor tells us that there are no breaks, which means there are likely lesions on puppy's spinal cord, and our options are either very pricey surgery and a significant quality of life decrease, or put her down and save her the pain. They give us some pain meds for her, and we take her home to think about the options. The next day, we get in to our regular vet's office. Dog is still limping and heavily favoring a leg. Regular doc inspects poochie and asks what other doc said. After hearing ER doc's prognosis, regular doc advises us never to go back, and informs us that our dog likely banged her knee really hard on the bricks of our porch and was just being a baby about it. Two days later, doggo is 100% fine.
My husband and I along with our two large dogs moved several states away and were staying with friends until we found our own place. One of our dogs gets sick and passes it on to our friends' dog. The wife freaks out and rushes their dog to a vet who convinces her it is parvo even though all the dogs are vaccinated and older. I called my vet back home and he said it was just a stomach bug and it was going around. I ended up paying an obscene amount of money (because we felt responsible) for her dog to be treated for parvo unnecessarily and get special food. I would warn everyone I could not to go to that vet unless they wanted to be gouged.
Took my pit to the vet when she was a puppy. She was laying around crying loudly. First vet was just the closest to me. He told me her gut was twisted and he could put her down or cut her open and take a look. This seemed wrong to me so later that night I took her to the 24 hr clinic. Vet looked her over and felt around. Then told me she had just eaten something that is hurting her stomach. Did an X-ray I believe and told me she would most likely pass it and if she gets worse or lasts more then another day to bring her back. After being home for a little while she pooped out a impressively long and straight stick. She is 10 now. Apparently the 1st vet just didn’t have and X-ray machine so was going to cut her open and take a look.
Load More Replies...Take your time for final decisions. Strolch was having water in his belly. I guess up to 10% of his weight. Regular vets sends us to cardiac specialist. First it's insufficient heart and he gets tabletts, nothing changes. Next ultrasound, suddenly it's heart worms - in a dog that has been 2 yrs in Germany (no heartworms here). Ultrasounds looks sus to me. I google and read up on ultrasounds and heartworm procedures. No way does the diagnosis make sense and I will notput him through harsh treatment for nothing. We defy our regular vet and the cardiac specialist and go to the university vet because if it was heartworm they are more experienced. Up to then we lost 2 month and a couple grand. Went there, they took their time, listend and did bloodwork 2 belly and heart ultrasounds. Inconclusiv. After 5 hours they take him to a professor who teaches ultrasound but does not practice. His vena porta has been clogged. So after 2 month of tablets, sleep deprivation because of anti water tablets AND weekly puncturing his belly to get rid of his water we have a diagnosis. No heartworm found. We took him home to discuss operation but drive him back 200km after 2 days because he got worse. They operated from morning till noon. CT before and after showed the clogging came straight back. The leading vet of the clinic called us and we decided Strolch has a right to go. I will forever trust my own experience and gut if it is something mature. I advice to learn to read basic blood works and ask questions. The cardiac "specialist" did a poor job answering and now I know why.
When I lived in Dallas my dear kitty Tigger got really sick, temperature dropped (cats do that when they’re sick). Gave her antibiotics that didn’t work. They maintained she had some abdominal infection caught from the mom and would go to her spinal fluid and she would die. Best to euthanize her. Being a people nurse, I thought that maybe some people situations might transfer to animals. I said that with people, until we get things figured out with a blood culture we start them out on a broad spectrum antibiotic (works on many different kinds of bacteria as opposed to a certain one). I suggested we try this because the infection she had might not be covered by the antibiotics they gave her. Thank dog the vet listened and started her on a broad spectrum. Just like with people, she started to recover in 48 hours.
Reminds me of my doggie. One morning she squealed when I picked her up (always picked her up in the morning for a cuddle) and I was terrified because she never squealed. I took her to the vet after calling out from work. Vet says there's a huge blockage and she may need surgery, but we'll wait a while and take X-rays. So the X-rays show the 'blockage' has moved. She squints at the X-ray and says, "Do you give your dog bones?" I'm like, "No, she doesn't show much interest." Vet says, "Because these look like pieces of bone." I took one look at the X-ray and knew immediately. "That's not bone. It's cat litter." Yes, my doggie had decided that cat poo was delicious and ate it, litter and all. Vet gave her medicine so she'd pass the giant 'cat poo' and we got a baby gate to keep her out of the cats' area.
Never decide fast on such. Especially in younger animals ... a 20 yo old cat with liver tumors who starts avoiding being touched and gets yellowy eyes is a cleas case - wait no longer, spare'em that. But this ... well, humans, who can talk, describe what they feel, did, what prompted their defect are already hard to deal with often, but other animals ... they're a PITA being diagnosed!
It is so difficult to know what is going on with our pets. Some act dramatically when injured and others hid injury so well. Good to get another doctor opinion.
Omg, Koko, my Siamese was so dramatic! He scratched one of his paws once and for years after he would limp around when he wanted attention. Sometimes he'd forget which leg he was limping on.
Load More Replies...Dogs are always wither completely stoic or start screeching about literally nothing and it scares me a bit
Our 11yo cattle dog mix started throwing up and wouldn't eat. After a month of our local vet throwing diagnoses and medications at him - maybe it's pancreatitis, try this, maybe it's ehrlichia, try this, maybe it's Cushing's, try this - she suggested that it was probably stomach cancer and we should put him down. We took him to the vet teaching hospital at Auburn, Alabama, and their equipment was able to detect a small bowel obstruction. It was a clear plastic squeaker from a toy. Dexter survived the surgery and lived another 2 years. I had no idea how dangerous squeaker toys could be. PLEASE DO NOT BUY SQUEAKER TOYS. They almost took my best friend. I'm convinced he'd still be here if he didn't need that bowel resection.
I think teaching hospitals or hospitals belongig to s university are sometimes way more through because they a) teach and b) are more likely to come to less known diagnoses. We only have the black Kong indoors. Plushys, ropes etc he can only have supervised and outfoors because he shreds them.
Load More Replies...My stupid pooch is a drama queen like that. One morning she can barely walk, really bad limp, doesn't want to take a step. I carry her down (forth floor) a bit unsure how to get her to a vet, a neighbour drivse us. drama drama, long wait at the vet, we finally go in and everthing is just fine. No limp, dog is in a great mood. Stupid dog.
Wife went to ER for pain in her pelvic region. Ultrasound showed a mass, probably an ovarian cyst they said. It will pop in time. Leave it alone.
Went to th Dr about a week later, had a surgery to pull it out maybe a month later. Did a biopsy on the mass. It was ovarian CANCER. she is now cancer free but wtf.
And yet sometimes people can´t afford a second opinion because of lousy healthcare system..
In the USA, you mean. Developed countries have universal healthcare and that's not an issue.
Load More Replies...This happens to often with ovarian cysts. Please also don't wait for them to pop. It's excruciatingly painful. Not as bad as childbirth, bone cancer or a kidney stone, but in the top five. I've seen women drop to the floor like they're shot.
I've only ever had one that caused me pain and it was big enough that I had to have it and my ovary removed. Ovarian cysts are no joke.
Load More Replies...Congratulations on successful treatment AND being wise enough to get that second opinion! I am now a 19-year ovarian cancer survivor. Caught it early, had chemo, it's all good.
Not sure how accurate scans are now, but it can be very difficult to tell the difference between a normal cyst and one cause by a tumour. I had this 20 years ago with a testicle which had swollen to nearly the size of a tennis ball. All that could be seen on the US was the cysts, but not what caused them. It wasn't until the sugeon dissected it after the orchidectomy that it was discovered to be cancerous. Cue the full works of chemo to get rid of it.
Most scans stil can't always tell, which is why we biopsy the cysts. (MD). We can do analysis now that will find traces of cancer in fluid even. And a hat-tip to my FIL, whose lifelong research into DNA's uses in medicine is partly why we use it to detect cancers. :-)
Load More Replies...WTF? Let an ovarian cyst just “pop”? A ruptured ovarian cyst can cause severe pain and internal bleeding, FFS! Cripes, how much of a f*****g idiot told her to just wait until it pops?
I had a hemorrhagic cyst on my right ovary (didn't know it at the time), that I would "feel" every other month. Like, a little knot on my right side. I noticed it kept getting bigger, to the point I was in severe pain. I'd driven from Texas to Mississippi and cried about 5 hours from home from the pain. I called my OBGYN (I worked with him in labor and delivery) and he told me to go to our ER. The ER doc didn't do anything except offer me pain meds. Said it was probably a cyst and it would go away. I lost my s**t. Called my doc and he told me to meet him in his office the next day. Turns out this thing was about to burst and if it did, I would've died before making it back to the hospital, bleeding out internally. F**k that ER doc.
Women are routinely ignored by doctors and told it's nothing or they're imagining it.
My m-I-l had a lump in her breast that was painful. Went to GP who told her “it’s just a cyst because breast cancer doesn’t hurt”. Fortunately she went to a women's clinic for a second opinion. They had her admitted for a mastectomy two days later. GP sends a big bouquet with a “get well soon” card. M-I-l “isn’t that nice of him?” No, mom, he’s hoping you don’t sue his a*s for malpractice.
Load More Replies...In Ireland we have a medical card if you dont earn alot working you can get ine but waiting times for serious stuff like the above takes months to be seen so you have to pay private to be seen the next week
This is my second story to post here but a great story no less. Mid 30's man walks into my office with what looks like a black eye and a broken blood vessel in the front of his left eye. He went to his primary and it was simply assumed that he got punched or hit or something, and he was dismissed. He was noted to have high blood pressure, but a script for medicine was written and a follow up in a few months. Gentleman comes in to see me to get another opinion on the matter and I look at him and immediately start the line of questions: How long has it been there, do you have a headache, and when you plug your ears with your fingers do you hear a "wooshing" sound? He had a cavernous sinus fistula (CCF). I sent him directly to the emergency room with his family of 4 in tow and he was in the OR within an hour of arriving. Saved his eye and possibly his life that day. The best news: He was a kitchen guy at my local diner which I frequent and they still treat me like royalty there when I come to eat. They all remember the time I saved one of theirs.
Good one you! Assumed he got punched? Did he get punched? Did they ask him? He would know that. When it comes to medical, NEVER ASSume.
Holy c**p. I've never encountered one, but 1. with high blood pressure and 2. no history of violence in the last 6 hours, even I (and I primarily research) would've asked about headaches! Granted, I'd have worried he blew a blood vessel, but the guy wouldn't be dismissed.... *shiver*
I had a guy come in for a second opinion after the first place didn’t bother asking any medical history.
Of course I took his history and asked more questions as we went. I remember telling him something felt off and we needed to run a test. So I ordered a peripheral vision test.
When I got the test back I was shocked by the most classic tumor pattern I’d ever seen. Two weeks later he was in surgery to get it removed. A month after this guy was back In my clinic thanking me. Totally different guy. Personality was a complete 180, energetic and happy.
Edit: Here’s another one I thought of though a bit more sad. But also good at the same time. Here’s a cautionary tale why urgent cares should NEVER treat eye issues.
Lady was referred to me after 2 weeks of treated for a red painful eye. The PA and MDs that saw her tried allergy meds and anti biotic is thinking it was allergic or bacterial conjunctivitis, or hoping it was mild viral that would resolve on its own.
So I took one look at her and knew it was a herpes simplex infection in her cornea. She was in pain and had been mistreated for 2 weeks. Got her on anti virals, but after discussing how it was odd she didn’t have any active herpetic sores, but had a really bad cough that the ER said was just pneumonia and would go away with antibiotics.
I told her to get it checked with a pulmonologist because it didn’t sound like pneumonia and it wasn’t getting better. I saw her 3 months later to monitor her corneal appearance and she came in using a wheelchair.
Turns out the pulmonologist was blown away that the ER had dismissed her. She had a really rare small cell lung cancer. The reason the herpes infection manifested in the first place was her immune system was compromised. She told me the pulmonologist said I’d saved her life because they caught it early. It’s been a bit over a year. She’s still undergoing treatment but her spirits are strong and she’s optimistic as is the pulmonologist.
JUST pneumonia?? WTF?? (I know this isn’t the biggest thing in the story but it send to stand out to me)
Same. Pneumonia kills. This is why ER work during Covid made me lose more faith in humanity than the Covid ward did. Covid ward made me angry. ER work... "Oh they're not dying, who cares" is *not* the oath I took!
Load More Replies...ER's really are the last place you want to go for quality care. They don't care, they just want to get you in and out like a factory and bankrupt you for their trouble.
True! I (age 63 & a heart patient) fell and broke my pelvis in 3 places. After a scan confirmed the breaks, the ER doctor explained the damage and then asked, "So are you going home or do you want to be admitted?" Yeah, she was ready to shuffle me out the door.
Load More Replies...One day all doctors will understand that rare is not a synonym for never.
ERs are for emergencies. Please, *always follow up*. No, you can't afford it in the US, but can your family afford the funeral?
I was like 10 and my parents took me to the doctor cus i thought i broke my leg skateboarding. He said it was a 3rd degree sprain told me itd be fine. I pointed out lines in the xray and he said they were nothing. I somehow convinced my mom to take me somewhere else and they confirmed i had multiple hairline fractures in my growth plate.
My mom to me at 13: "Oh, your knee is fine!" My mom 12 weeks later as the doctor shows her the X-ray: "Oh." The doctor: "Yes, the kneecap was fractured." Still have a bum knee thanks to that. Note: a medical degree of any kind does not give you X-ray vision. (Mom was a nurse.)
Have an upvote; don't know why you got downvoted.
Load More Replies...I had this with my daughter when she was 18mths old. She'd taken a tumble and hospital said X-ray was normal just a sprain. I questioned a line on the x-ray but was dismissed. A week later I get a letter in the post urging Me to bring her back urgently. I was correct about the line being a break.
Talk about not seeing the wood through the trees. When I was in my 40's I had a motorcycle accident. My bike landed on my leg, but I managed to ride home.My daughter phoned my husband because I was in a lot of pain, so my he came home from work and drove me to A&E. I was X-Rayed and there was an obvious fracture to my big toe. Doctor says they'd just tape my toes together and send me on my way. The very observant male nurse says " but what about these" Yes, the doctor was so focused on my big toe that he didn't notice that all of my metatarsals were crushed. I was told that I narrowly avoided surgery. I developed a huge trauma blister on my calf muscle, which was dressed by the district nurse daily ( through a window cut into my plaster cast) The back of my calf is still numb 30 years later.
Load More Replies...My daughter took her infant son to urgent care because his s*****m was markedly red and swollen. The doc gave him a cream saying it was a rash. She left and took him straight to the ER where they rushed him into surgery for testicular torsion.
It's a big problem that urgent care/emergency doctors usually don't have any idea about children's issues. We've got a non-life-threatening telephone number in Germany ("kassenärztlicher Notdienst") where you can call when you don't feel "sick enough" for a hospital, but can't wait for your regular doctor's office hours. Both times I called there about my twins (once with a fever >41°C, the other time because of severe vomiting and stuff when they were just about 14 months old), they told me I should either go to the children's hospital immediately if I felt I should, or just wait it out if I didn't feel it was that urgent. Yeah, great help. When I recently did my first aid course, a first response worker told me that there were simply no pediatricians at all on the rota for this phone number, so I'd have had to choose between my two options in any case...
Load More Replies...When patients can read their own xrays better than doctors and technicians can
When a ten year old is better at reading x rays than a doctor you know something is wrong
A year ago I fell and sat on my foot. Went to urgent care to get an X-ray . There was no radiologist there on a Saturday night but the doc (and me too) could see lines across 5 metatarsals. Upon advice from my knee doc's office, I went to a podiatrist 2 days later. This doc couldn't be bothered to look at the x-ray I brought with me, and took his own, on the machine that looked like it was made in the 50's that they kept in the HALLWAY. he told me it wasn't broken, to just wear the boot and I'd be fine. The bottom of my foot was black with bruises and by the end of the week I knew it wasn't right, so this time I went to a real foot surgeon. 5 fractures and a ruptured ligament. I could have had the surgery almost 2 weeks sooner if I hadn't gone to that podiatrist jerk first. I wouldn't trust him to trim my dog's toenails.
Upvoting, and also, if you don't know what "growth plate" means? A fracture can result in a crooked or shorter limb on one side. In legs, that leads to severe gait issues, which lead to spinal issues, for example. And since they're often around joints, you end up with every -itis in the world.
Load More Replies...I'm an Emergency Medicine Doc in the midwest USA The patient was transferred from rural nowhere to our tertiary care facility (big hospital with every specialist). Call was of really bad quality, but the transferring physician described a 21 year old male that had rapid heart rate and breathing rate, low blood pressure, low oxygen, confusion, and a severe opacification on his chest x-ray on the right side. Diagnosed pneumonia. He gave him a ton of fluids, started antibiotics, put him on a ventilator, but he wasn't getting better, and wanted to send him to us. Sure, send away. An hour later the gentleman arrives, and looks young, fit, and not the type to just drop dead from pneumonia. We roll him onto our stretcher and find... A huge stab wound in his back. The X-ray finding was his entire right chest full of blood. We put a tube in it, gave him back some blood, and he had to go for surgery to fix the bleeding. Lesson: Look at your patient.
How do you miss a FREAKING STAB WOUND! Edit: never mind. It was the Midwest usa.
Easy. Especially if the MD did not do a physical assessment if the patient. Ordered labs and radiology tests.
Load More Replies...I'm not gonna flat out say it's bull, but was his shirt never removed? I've been a patient in a few different hospitals and clothes always get removed. I've also never had a doctor not listen to my lungs.... ice cold stethoscope on my back. Idk, maybe the state I'm in just has really good doctors.
Sooo guy was from start to finish unconscious, I’m guessing. Cause at some point he would have told them he had been stabbed you would think. I know you are usually out with a ventilator or at least can’t talk but he had to come into the hospital unconscious to begin.I’ve seen deep puncture wounds that don’t bleed outside much but still.
I thought about that, too. But then, I remember people saying that getting stabbed can feel like they're "just" getting punched, because you don't really feel a sharp knife going in, but more the impact. Depending on the circumstances of the stabbing, maybe the patient actually didn't know? It was on his back, after all.
Load More Replies...Did the patient not think there was any correlation, and that perhaps he should mention it?
If he was on a ventilator, he was likely unconscious. Even if he was conscious, you can’t talk while you’re on a vent.
Load More Replies...Where the hell did he get a stab wound? I’m not going to that place ever
You would be surprised if the lack of physical assessment that happens. Either by the medical and/or nursing staff.
Load More Replies...If this is from a Doc at Iowa City, I thank you for what you do. You all saved my life in Spades by a day or two or less. No one knew.
Like nursing assessments should always include a good skin assessment with everyone.
Had a patient come in for therapy after his PCM yelled at him for being a hypochondriac and saying his symptoms were all in his head and that he was just trying to fish for disability. His symptoms were pretty obviously neurological so I referred him for an MRI (to my shock he had only ever had x-rays). Sadly, I had to tell the 19 year old man that he had Multiple Sclerosis. With great satisfaction I got to tell that PCM he dun goofed and that I would be talking to our mutual Chief of Clinical services about the incident.
So many young people (and women) aren't taken seriously when they're in pain. My daughter had a pain in her side. The PA she was seeing decided to do a CAT scan. The PA had once been in a similar position and was told it was in her head. Ultimately, they found a tumor. She did the CAT scan on my daughter, and found... a tumor in her pancreas! It was a rare tumor that only young women get. Because they caught it early, it was still encapsulated, and hadn't had a chance to spread.
Part of the reason we need more women, as well as minorities, in the medical field. We don’t all have the same medical issues as white men, so having people from different “walks of life” is incredibly valuable for patients. Had the PA been a white man, he most likely would’ve dismissed the OP’s daughter’s pain as being all in her head. But having a woman as PA, one who had the same issue and had experienced having HER legitimate concerns dismissed, meant being taken seriously and having the proper tests run, which revealed a genuine medical issue, which was then treated properly before it became life threatening.
Load More Replies...I hate it when Doctors assume things can’t be that serious and dismiss your concerns. My doctors knew I was having seizures because of a brain tumor, they insisted it couldn’t possibly be cancer because of my age. They refused to do surgery as I requested because I was too young for it to be that bad, I was 27, and instead gave me anti seizure medication that dried out my mouth and cost me most of my teeth, and when six months later I was still having seizures they agreed to remove it.It wasn’t even just one kind of cancer, it was 2 but they were fighting each other for resources which is the only reason it didn’t kill me. Astrocytoma and oligodendriglioma.
Ah, memories. Got a bit*h neurosurgeon resident fired in 2017 for not even bothering with a basic exam on my mom post-op. Left to that creature, my mom would've died. And my MD had nothing to do with it. I had baked cookies for the nurses on the post-op neuro ward the day after my mom's surgery, so when I got concerned, they backed me up. Moral: Be nice to nurses, and don't make threats. Make things happen. In that case, I went straight to the hospital administrator and said the two words they most fear: "bad press".
Glad I'm not the only one that foamy know lol
Load More Replies...My mum went to the doctor with some symptoms and asked for tests. He said he no, she was fine and that he'd "save the taxpayer some money". Arsehole. (Public health is free here). She went for a 2nd opinion. Turns out she had pneumonia. Risky for an elderly asthmatic woman.
I was also treated like a hypochondriac for around 10 years until I ended up in hospital having lost my sensory and motor function. MS sucks baws
This exact scenario happened to me, complete with PCP yelling at me, accusing me of faking it. 2nd doctor also ran MRIs, massive spinal issues.
Bit of a weird one, because the request for a second opinion came from an intensivist and I was a contributor to their treatment plan.
I work in poisons control. Had a call from a green, but very astute young doctor with a middle-aged female patient presenting with a vague 36-48hr history of malaise, confusion, hypoxia from hyperventilation, and hallucinations. On workup was noted to have pulmonary edema (lung fluid buildup), metabolic acidosis, acute kidney injury, sinus tachy and raised CRP & WCC, suggestive of infection but no temperature. The initial diagnosis was sepsis.
This keen-eyed doctor, pretty fresh out of med school, decided to do a salicylate level on this lady because the hyperventilation paired with metabolic acidosis and AKI was enough to prompt her suspicions of aspirin poisoning, even though they could just as easily be explained by sepsis as well.
The level came back high. Not huge, but high, which prompted her to phone me for a second opinion on how relevant the finding was in terms of the patient's clinical picture. Simultaneously, the patient's family investigated the property and located numerous aspirin blister packs suggesting she had been dosing herself for chronic pain, which was present in the medical history.
Chronic salicylate poisoning is insidious and has been referred to as a "pseudosepsis" in the medical literature as it often causes similar features. Comparing a high level in chronic poisoning to the same level in acute poisoning, features are much more severe in chronic poisoning (i.e. pulmonary edema, hypoxia, AKI etc) - there is a disparity. We recommended certain treatments (all hail sodium bicarbonate) and the patient made a full recovery after a 2 week hospital stay.
Whilst there was no question an infective cause was present and contributory, I was impressed with the green doctor's intuition and willingness to consider other causes - I feel like it greatly improved the patient's treatment.
Edit: Some words.
That depends on the cause. It's really variable. Different kinds of pain respnd best to different painkillers on a physiological level. The chemistry is complicated. Odds are, *not* something like aspirin, due to the kidney injury, however.
Load More Replies...You’d be surprised how many times it is about our intuition. Chronic aspirin poisoning is not that common. Neither is purposely overdose on it. Not with so many other medications available to use and usually aspirin is mostly used as a blood thinner, emergency heart attack treatment. There were many times I was calling an MD with vague suspicions. The ones who knew me listened. I was rarely wrong. The ones who didn’t? I bugged them until sometimes I was actually yelled at by them and did a test just to shut me up. One night the doc screamed so loud at me I had to hold the phone away from my ear. My reply? I calmly asked “So, do you have any orders for me?” To make me shut up he ordered a CBC. The results said he had just 1/4 the amount of blood in him he should have. HEMORRHAGE!! The next day the doc went to my boss and admitted that he didn’t save the man’s life. I did. I love it when I’m right!
Yep. My mom in her days as a nurse was flawless with her patients always had that "knowing". They'd send snotty doctors to her to learn their lesson (on purpose). I seemed to inherit or absorb some of that, I'm told, and I never let medical professionals get in the way. I get c**p for "overreacting", but y'know what? Follow the gut/nose/whatever. I'm wrong sometimes... but like my mom before me, not very often. It's the subconscious adding up things our consciousness hasn't yet identified.
Load More Replies...Okay, THIS is why I'm both impressed with doctors but not surprised that others get sh*t won't in diagnosing. HOLY C**P that's complicated, plus the human body is so weird! Amazing that medical people get so much right that we get enraged when they are wrong.
I’m stunned. I just discovered salicylate sensitivity wherein you cannot eat the majority of fruits and vegetables because of their salicylate content. If you have chronic digestive problems and have high inflammation markers in blood tests but no logical reason for them look into it. Years of dismissing your symptoms as Possibly IBS but not that serious could be salicylate sensitivity. I’m for sure going to be careful to stay off of all salicylate medications because I don’t need “pseudosepsis”.
Wow. I salute them. That's a tough catch. I'm not sure I'd have made it, altho' the hypoxia should be a big red flag. And my specialty is public health/infectious disease.
Hypoxia=cause by breathing too much, means too much oxygen. Breathing too much causes basic blood, not acidic, even with kidney failure(kidneys pee out acid or base as needed). So acid does not make sense unless she is eating acid(rare, what it was) OR bacteria are producing it in her body and leaking it into bloodstream= sepsis. This is hear hoofbeats think zebra situation.
Load More Replies...In 2002 I started vomiting everything I ingested. About that time my hands and feet became darker in color. I had no insurance, but my Mom paid for me to see my family doctor. For two years he would give me nausea medicine and cautioned me to stay out of the sun. The darkened color of my feet and hands travelled toward my torso and I began to lose weight at an alarming rate. On January 3, 2004 my friends picked me off my bathroom floor and took me to a the emergency room. I was 5’6” and weighed 100 pounds. I was severely anemic and suffering from malnutrition. The hospital admitted me and the next day a gastroenterologist visited me. After talking about all my stomach issues, I asked him why I was so dark. I showed him a picture taken several years before where my skin was Irish pale. He went home that night and did research. The next morning he ordered blood work and told me I have Addison’s disease. AD is an adrenal insufficiency, if it is not treated, AD is fatal. The doctor also told me I was within hours of dying. My friends saved my life that day. Now, 16 years later I am getting along pretty well. I take steroids and a lot of other medications. My skin stopped bouncing back to its original color so I look extremely tanned. I am so thankful for that doctor who diagnosed a disease that nearly killed me. It will one day, but not today.
Oh my goodness. Our late dog had Addison's. He took steroids his whole life.
So the first doctor didn’t question our pasty Irish guy was turning dark in the limbs and it was slowly spreading and I didn’t seem to be a concern?!
Load More Replies..." I had no insurance,". God, how many people die (some in agony) in the USA because of unaffordable medical care? 1st World America with 3rd World health care (if you aren't rich). ☹
Even if you are "rich" it's still 3rd world healthcare.
Load More Replies...Holy c**p. While Addison's can be hard to catch (the symptoms match things from flu to pregnancy) at first, if nausea meds aren't working? If the bloodwork is clean for infection? You're heading into what we were taught to call "zebra territory". The sound of hooves weren't horses... must be something rarer, e.g., metaphorical "zebra".
I also have Addison's disease, which was discovered accidentally whilst being investigated for something else. I've had one near fatal attack but had an emergency injection administered whilst waiting for the ambulance. I have to carry those around with me all the time.
My nephew has Addison's. We discovered that without extra steroids before surgery, he would go into Addison's crisis which almost killed him. Also NO outpatient surgery!
I’m amazed some doctors still have their licenses, for all the misdiagnoses from not really listening, or even examining, their patients—-who then turn out to have potentially fatal issues, which the incompetent doctors could’ve caught early, thereby saving their patients so much pain and anguish, as well as their moves. FFS, that kind of malpractice could also be called torture.
Wow, that sounds like what I went through. For SEVEN years they treated me for anorexia, but I ate so much, it was insane, yet I kept losing weight. Then I moved and went to a new doctor. I am 5.11 and weighed 98 lbs. I was shaking like a leaf, felt like I'm about to drop dead any minute. He took one look at me and said: "Lets do a thyroid test before anything else." Turned out that that was it. One pill and it was all back to normal. Doc said I wouldn't have made it another week. All my vital organs were failing.
My grandmother had her hip replaced, but the hip always hurt to her. She waited a year, hoping it would go away but it never did, she asked multiple doctors and did multiple x-rays but doctors said the replaced hip was fine. We finally made her go to a private clinic in my hometown, and the doctor saw that the replaced hip was fine and dandy, but the bone around it looked like it was a tad bit eaten by bacteria.
So the new doc did an operation, and there was so much pus in the leg it was insane. If my grandmother waited any longer, her blood would become infected and she would have died.
Thank goodness she went to the clinic.
I'm not usually litigious, but that b*stard should be sued for medical malpractice!
I was reading somewhere about defected hip replacements made out of some kind of metal (cobalt I think?) that was basically rotting away the bone and tissue around it, I wonder if this was one of those?
Load More Replies...As an MD, I want to teach every panda something very important: RADIOLOGISTS ONLY REPORT ON WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO LOOK FOR, NOT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY NOTICE, unless the referring doctor specifies so. I've seen too much as a patient, let alone as an MD, to not have to shout that one. I apologize for the caps, but please, be aware of that.
Needs all caps. But, I don’t understand why a radiologist wouldn’t say “But wait a minute! I do see this in the X-ray” and call. That’s kind of bordering on negligence if you ask me.
Load More Replies...My dad had his elbow replaced after an accident (always have someone hold your ladder, ALWAYS) and after a while he started complaining about how much it hurt him and how he could no longer move his fingers on that arm. They opened him up and found that the bone surrounding the implant had basically rotted away and he had to have it removed and now has no elbow in one of his arms. This was back in the early 2000s, and everyone told him that it was a super rare complication. Yeah, fast forward about 10 years or so, and I watched a Last Week Tonight segment that basically confirmed that all types of metal implants were failing in the same exact manner at that time. He recently had his shoulder replaced and now we’re all holding our breath that he doesn’t have another problem like that again.
My 90 yr old grandma was walking on a broken hip for 6 weeks because her idiot doctor didn't x-ray the joint. Turns out the ball of the hip completely sheared off from her leg. But the doctor only x-rayed the leg because she was complaining about leg pain. Any freakin' doctor with an ounce of common sense would have checked the hip joint. At the very least, you would think the doctor would have sent her home with a walker or prescribed physical therapy. But they implied she was making it up. Even my aunt (who was in charge of my grandma's medical care) even accused her of faking an injury for attention. Anyone with eyes could see my grandma was in a tremendous amount of pain and you could definitely see she was having a hard time walking around. Needless to say, she ended up getting her hip replaced. But I must say, I never met someone as tough as my grandma.
Osteomyelitis infection she could have died. If it wasn’t fatal, every chance she could have lost her entire leg in order to save her life.
I am a (semi) retired physician and I don’t believe in second opinions. I much prefer two first opinions.
OK, this wins for wisdom. Too often, a second opinion is a rubberstamp of the first one, done to just clear up the p aperwork. :-( (BTW, this isn't unique to the US. I've heard this from Brits, Canadians, Germans, too.)
For the love of god, *who* is doing that to a perfectly good Littman! That’s not even the student model!
Former ER volunteer here.
An elderly gentleman was brought in by his concerned adult children for chest pain. He wanted to believe his primary doctor that it was just some gas or heart burn, but his son "just had a gut feeling" and made him go to the ER with everyone so he could get checked out. Heart attack was imminent, like, we weren't sure if treatment would take effect in time to prevent it. Declared code blue, all hands on deck, place went from a quiet, empty ER to sheer chaos in a few minutes.
There is no doubt in my mind that that "gut feeling" saved his life.
To all practicing medical personnel, in any capacity, as well as those pursuing, or even just planning on, a medical career: LISTEN to your patients, FFS! Listen, and actually hear them. Don’t just dismiss or minimize their concerns. Check. Everything. Out. Hit the books or consult your colleagues—-not just the specialists, but the older and more experienced ones too—-if you’re unfamiliar with the combination of symptoms. In other words, do your damned job! Yours is not a field you can just half-a*s your way through. People die unnecessarily if you do.
Yes it did. Elderly? ASSume it’s indigestion? Treat that like it’s a heart issue/heart attack until proven differently. Cardinal rule.
What kind of gas gives you chest pain. That seems a little high on the body.
A bulk of my career lately seems to be maligned patients with legitimate medical issues who've been labeled as hypochondriacs and sent through for a psych work up and meds / counseling. People with histories of all kinds of endocrine issues, like thyroid cancer / thyroidectomy patients who see someone once every two years about their thyroid and never have labs checked or med dosages fixed. Or diabetics with poorly controlled sugars, people who've had bowels surgeries and take time release meds, and then wonder why they aren't working. The piece meal system of health care in the US is really doing such a disservice to actual humans. So many specialists and no one piecing together the big picture.
As an MD, I basically bullied my GP, my neuro, and one other specialist into a conference call together to discuss me together, because I was tired of being seen "one piece at a time".. I'm a whole being. And, yes, my treatment plan was excellent after that.
As a doc, you were lucky to have to influence to badger other docs into better care. the rest of us are stuck being treated as a bothersome hypochondriacs when we just want them to do their job.
Load More Replies...As a primary care MD for over 4 decades, I considered my role to be "synthesist" for my complex patients who had specialists. I put together their diagnoses and treatment plans, and pointed out to the specialists when their diverse plans were not particularly compatible. But now too many primary docs defer to the specialists who all too often don't confer with each other well either.
Our NHS isn't that good at the moment, but one thing is - the fact that everything is interlinked and they usually talk to eachother.
For SEVEN years they treated me for anorexia, but I ate so much, it was insane, yet I kept losing weight. Then I moved and went to a new doctor. I am 5.11 and weighed 98 lbs. I was shaking like a leaf, felt like I'm about to drop dead any minute. He took one look at me and said: "Lets do a thyroid test before anything else." Turned out that that was it. One pill and it was all back to normal. Doc said I wouldn't have made it another week. All my vital organs were failing.
This is huge and exactly why I didn't get diagnosed with dysautonomia until I'd had symptoms for NINE YEARS. Then didn't get diagnosed with EDS for two years after that. And still can't get decent care.
Went through an ENT and an allergist/immunologist before I found an Advanced ENT allergist who came from the Mayo clinic and was just fixing to retire. It took 3 doctors to figure out I had dysosmia. Really frustrating.
Load More Replies...Went to ENT doc, he took a REALLY quick look and said "your daughter need tubes in her ears for drainage (recurring ear infections). I asked "may I get a second opinion?" He said "get a third or 4th it's your money" suffice it to say he got the initial fee. After we took her to another specialist, he wanted to hold off on tubes and massage the canals draining the ears. It helped
Its far too easy for doctors to diagnose women with anxiety if they dare to question the doctor (not in USA). The doctor (female) had to call me to tell me to go to the hospital when she got the results of the blood tests that were only ordered because I insisted.
I'm not a doctor, but I'm glad my parents took me in for a second opinion when I was complaining about a bad headache when I was 15 years old.
I left school one day and went to the hospital for a bad headache. The doctor said it's "just a virus" and that I should just rest and take meds. I went home, laid down and took some Advil and carried on with my night.
Around 1am, I was screaming on the floor.
My parents took me to a different hospital and they ran tests and eventually did a spinal tap and discovered a ton of white blood cells. Turns out I had bacterial meningitis.
Oh nothing to worry it’s a virus in your brain like what the hell how does that even make a f***ing sense you should be in the ER if you had a virus in your head there’s basically no immune system in your brain
Load More Replies...A teen with a headache is a vague presentation. That said, if it's bad enough to go to the hospital, then the hospital has to assume it's serious, and not that it's "drug seeking". People have died b/c of that assumption "Oh they're just trying to get drugs". Yes, to get *better*! ... and that's why I rage against the US medical machine. MD. PATIENT BEFORE PROFITS!
I've heard of so many ER Dr.s dismissing patients as faking it only to find the issue is serious.
I'm gonna start getting anxiety whenever I have a dehydration headache
This actually happened a few weeks ago. My sister went to urgent care because she had a bad cough and was having trouble breathing - they said it was a virus and gave her antibiotics My mom took her to her primary dr who confirmed it. 10 days later she wasn’t better so my mom took her back and INSISTED she get an x Ray. The doctor said, “I don’t know why you brought her back in - it’s just a cough.” Turns out entire right lung was collapsed, which showed on the x Ray. It had been for almost two weeks. The doctor called us and said “you need to go to the ER right now.” And then began an emergency surgery in the er, admittance to the hospital for a week, and another surgery two days later Edit to add: Checked with my mom, sister was prescribed the antibiotic Clarithromycin. And confirmed that they did say “virus” originally It was a really horrible experience overall - from the urgent care to the primary doctor. At the ER (and then the hospital when she was admitted) it was a bit better. She had an emergency surgery in the Er where the doctor put a tube in her through her back to inflate the lung and another to remove excess liquid from her lung. So for the rest of her time there she had the tube connected from her back to a big plastic clear briefcase looking thing that filtered blood and liquid out of her lung. Her second surgery was bc her lung wouldn’t inflate back up bc - surprise! - she had a big leak in her lung they needed to repair She was kind of hilarious bc while on morphine she kept dropping f bombs (“where is the f*****g nurse with my food”) but she doesn’t remember anything from the hospital anymore She has Down syndrome and the cause of the collapsed lung was actually because at the special olympics her team of petite women played against 6’0”+ tall men w tattoos. (Don’t even get me started on how stupid the special olympics can be, with literal “ringers” used to win gold in the lowest division.) A man chest bumped her and fell on top of her and we think that’s what caused it. She’s predisposed to these kinds of things bc of her Down syndrome - and had open heart surgery at 2 for a hole in her heart Anyway, she’s a champ. Heading back to work today unhappily, but excited because she’s been cleared to go to a special needs prom next Friday ✨✨✨
So many people with Down Syndrome or developmental handicaps are not listened to. When I worked at a children’s village my favorite kid had an episode where he blurted out “Oh my heart!” and turned momentarily blue. Cajoled the doc into getting him to a cardiologist. They did an ECG in the clinic. I took one look at it and said to his Social Worker that he has Sick Sinus Sundrome and would need a pacemaker. Yep, he did. The docs had to be called on it. “You don’t want to put in a pacemaker because he’s developmentally handicapped”🤬. He got a pacemaker.
Good job Miss Frankfurter, for being such a tough and caring advocate!
Load More Replies..."they said it was a virus and gave her antibiotics." There's the first clue that doctor is whack. Antibiotics don't work on viruses. Try a lawsuit. You'll win.
Hmm, antibiotics for something supposedly 'viral' is the first clue. The fact that you can tell when someone has a pneumothorax by just looking at the chest expansion (or lack of) combined with using a stethascope could have confirmed this without even an x ray.... So several sloppy mistakes. Hope she's well now.
Horrendous. I'm not a medic and I know antibiotics are no use against viruses. I'm so glad she got a good diagnosis.
This is a 'I wish I had gotten a second opinion' story. I had a doctor in high school who was unconcerned when I suddenly developed vertical double vision (which was freaking out everyone in emergency, where I had gone initially) and lost 60lbs for no reason.
It was only a year or two later when I told him that my arm would fall asleep much faster than normal when I raised it to ask a question in class that he thought there might be something wrong with me.
MRI ordered. Brain tumour found.
If a person has that much weight loss without reasons for it, that's always a red flag here in the Netherlands. They will order bloodwork and tests right away.
WTF. How did the emergency not order CT of the head? Helloooo? Vertical double vision bad. Very bad.
This is what pay to play healthcare results in, insufficient testing a simple CT scan could’ve revealed the problem but because all tests have to be approved by health insurance companies to be paid for, vital care is skipped.
Not a doctor, but I heard my son's doctor say this. I took him to the ER late one night because of coughing and a high fever. They took an X ray, gave him IBUPROFEN, and told us he was fine. Doctor showed me the X rays to prove it and gave me a dirty look when I asked what the dark spots were. I told her she was and idiot and took him to urgent care 4 hours later. The doctor that saw him immediately diagnosed him with pneumonia and confirmed with xrays. I flat out refused to pay for the ER visit and told them that if the persisted with collections I would push their incompetence. They never called me again. Edit: This really blew up! I would like to thank all the fine medical professionals out there for explaining dark spots on X rays. These are the exact answers that I was expecting for my question to that doctor. The fact that I did not receive any explanation of any type and received backlash at the mere questioning of a diagnosis would indicate some type of insecurity or complex that makes that doctor put their time and feelings ahead of my child's health. The fact that all of you spent a few minutes explaining and typing this on reddit really makes that doctor look really bad considering she couldn't spend 30 seconds giving an explanation.
You have the RIGHT to ask questions. You have the RIGHT to an answer.
You have the right to ask and receive the most informed response possible under the circumstances. The answers aren't always known. But if it's an answer most doctors would be expected to know, you have that right.
Load More Replies...A few weeks ago, I went to a walk-in (my GP retired right before the lockdown) because I thought I was having another pneumonia. Doctor said I was fine; I was not, I was wheezing and vomiting blood. Requested an x-ray which was reluctantly given. I went and the radiologist recommended two other "kinds" of x-rays. No one called me from the walk-in so after 2 weeks I go back to get a copy of it so I can see someone else. I need to consult first. OK. Doc comes in "Oh, no one called you?" "we both know no one called me". Then she reads the results. "well, nothing to it". "I want those new tests done" "why?" "because the specialist recommended them!" "are you sure about this?" "wtf?". New results. I had some artefact but also a pneumonia - one of my lungs 1/2 full of something. Edit: typos
Some doctors get that “God Complex” and think they should never ever be questioned. If your doctor is like that, you need to fire them and find another, better doctor. Patents can fire doctors and find others they feel better seeing. I’ve done it. Do not ever feel bad about it either! I had a doctor years ago whose treatment never made me feel any better. I told him I wasn’t happy, and was going to get a second opinion. He f*****g lost it and yelled at me. He was still yelling when I walked out of his office and found another doctor for my second opinion. Glad I did. My second opinion doctor became my new doctor. When I developed uterine fibroids in my forties, and said I was going to get a second opinion, instead of yelling, he told me to get as many opinions as I wanted to, and to let him know if any diagnoses were different. He said he would confer with any doctor whose diagnosis differed from his, because they may have seen something he didn’t, and he’d want to confer with them to get me the best diagnosis possible. Much better attitude than the God Complex guy.
That what I keep telling my mum about her new psychiatrist. He keeps prescribing her the same meds despite her saying that her symptoms are getting worse not better (as our whole family has noticed), because they are 'the best' drug for adults with ADHD. Same thing happened with my sister, who had also been his patient for the same reason. She found another doctor who listened to her and changed her meds. Mum still hasn't switched yet.
Load More Replies...I went to my GP doc when I was 18 because I’d had a cough for nearly 2 months. Started likely as a sinus infection from traveling between climates, and grew to what felt like bronchitis. (For some reason mom didn’t worry until the cough hadn’t completely gone after a month. Don’t ask me why.) Anywho, go to doc for cough, to make sure I don’t have any lingering illness, and they spend like 15 minutes looking at my ears and talking about something “fascinating”, and how they could see why I was there. Let me tell you, when I told them I was there for the cough, they suddenly forgot my ears. Never did find out what was wrong with them, even after I asked. Also, they didn’t seem concerned with the cough. Told me to try some allergy meds - which did nothing.
My Dad ( a pediatrician specializing in Neuro issues) was seeing one if his patients at the hospital got dragged into the NICU unexpectedly by a nurse who insisted a baby wasn't well. The attending doc insisted the kid was fine and just tired from a difficult vacuum assist delivery. My Dad could tell the baby wasn't okay and managed to talk the parents into a brain scan. The NICU doc insisted my dad was nuts to the parents. Dad was right and the kid had a brain bleed and was rushed to surgery. The baby would have died without the nurse bringing my dad in and the parents listening to him. As is, that extra time almost certainly cost brain function.
That doctor needs to be fired the one that said the baby was fine and saying the other doctor was crazy.
he won't get fired, becuase the whole culture in medicine is this crazy, competitive macho culture where you cannot admit you are wrong in front of witnesses. You'd have to fire everybody.
Load More Replies...Nurses! When you seriously “know”, never give up. Never back down. What’s the worst that could happen? You get yelled at. The best that could happen? You help save a life.
Nurses are the real heroes, not the doctors. Nurses actually spend time with patients, actually see whether they’re improving or not. Not all nurses, but most. Now, I’m not saying all doctors are dismissive or incompetent egotists, but there are some that maybe glance over and not notice, and others who just don’t care. Still others are just too busy and wish they could spend more time at each bed on their rounds, But they just don’t have the amount of one-on-one time with patients that nurses do, which leads to it being a nurse and not a doctor who just knows when something is wrong, even if it’s not immediately apparent to someone who hasn’t spent time with a patient. The nurse, who knew the attending physician was wrong and came to get the OP’s father, is the true hero in this story.
Friend's midwife insisted baby (still in utero) was fine, even though my friend felt that something was wrong - she hadn't felt baby move for hours. She ended up going to the hospital and having an emergency c-section as baby was in acute distress due to restricted blood flow to the placenta (can't remember what caused it). Anyway, baby was born severely brain damaged and she only lived until she was 13.
Dermatologist here. I have seen probably 5 instances of “My other doctor told me it was fine.” that were melanomas.
A lot of times people don’t want a full skin exams. There are lots of perfectly sane reasons for this, time, perceived cost, history of personal trauma. However, I routinely find cancers people don’t know they have. Keep this in mind if you see a dermatologist for acne and they recommend you get in a gown.
I went to a doctor for a growth on my forehead and was told it was dandruff. I got a new doctor who said it didn't look like anything worrisome to her. I came in for it again when it looked like a freaking marshmallow plastered to my face and they just happened to have me see a student doctor that day who referred me to a dermatologist. It was cancer. I had it for five or six years before I was referred and properly diagnosed.
Please, do not be afraid of a full skin exam. It's not dangerous. Your personal trauma is valid. Mention it, by all means. But do not skip the full skin exam. If you're scared of the doc, then photograph everything at home, date the photographs, and if you feel something has changed in size/shape/color, photograph and date. No, it shouldn't be your job, but if you aren't willing to do full skin for someone else? Our dermatologist uses thsi workaround for rape victims.
I got nervous with doing that but the doctor performing it was patient with me every step of the way. A relative of mine had skin cancer, but her (correct) cause of death was breast cancer.
Load More Replies...I worked in Occupational Health most of my career (now retired) and the number of rodent ulcers I have seen in mechanics/engineers who wipe old engine or cutting oils on their faces... Seen a few scrotal cancers too from putting oily rags in their overall pockets. Hopefully it will be less common now that most places have switched to disposable paper wipes.
I had a spot on my face that was barely perceivable but looked nothing like a mole and asked md for a dermatology referral because it looked exactly like my mom’s basal cell carcinoma. She did and wrote possible mole. Not even suspicious mole. I had to beg for the dermatologist to see me before 6 months. Got my appointment the next month. She said she didn’t think it was anything but took the biopsy. 3 days later I get a call that I have cancer and have to have it removed. 1 month later I go to have it removed and it had grown. If I hadn’t push I may have had to have half my face removed.
I was born with, what gp said, was a bruise on the back of my head, with long dark hair growing from it. 6 month later, while my sister is at an appointment, her doctor notices that my mom won't take my hat off, asks why and when he sees the 6cm spot and ponytail, sends us to see a specialist. Turns out it was pre-melinoma.
If you have a lot of moles, it's well worth keeping a photographic record of them. Do a body map and label them. When you see something every day you generally don't notice gradual changes, but if you've got photographic images from previous years and can see its visibly enlarged or got crusty or irregular in outline, that's more accurate than memory.
My husband found the one on my back. My dermatologist found the other one. I found the one on my stomach. GP took that one off.
Load More Replies...Mom's doctor shrugged off her pain and swelling in groin area. No exam. "Hernia," he scoffed, walking out of room. It was lymphoma. ::Looking at you, Dr. T. Robbins. You incompetent piece of jetsam.)
As a nurse, i was working with hospice a d after a meeting was talking to one of the PCA's. Her shirt had dropped off one shoulder and i saw this big mole. My gut told me to take a closer look. I did and it looked suspicious to me. Made her see her doctor asap. Turns out it was a melanoma and they removed it and about 4 cm to get clear margins.. she came back and thanked me when she came back to work and that is one of the most wonderful feelings.. as a nurse to save a life
This guy was told he had pink eye.
He had metal shards in his eye from welding
Aren’t you supposed to wear a mask while welding for exactly this reason?!
No, it's to stop welder's flash/arc eye where the intense light burns your corneas. That would probably have been from grinding to prep the weeks/cut the metal. Either way, he should have been wearing eye protection for that part too, so your point still stands.
Load More Replies...This is precicely why my silversmithing teacher warned us at the beginning of class that if we ended up doing *any* metalwork long-term, to tell every doctor when they’re taking our medical hostory. Even with precautions, metal shards get everywhere (good ventilation can send metal dust more airborne than you’d think). Also, MRIs and metal shards don’t mix.
But the guy would actually have known when the metal flew in - any history taker should have asked what he was doing when the pain started.... Doubt it was from welding, though - more likely angle grinding. Welding injuries are usually 'arc eye' from the bright light.
When I had metal in my eye from grinding my whole eye was all gooey and red and stuck shut the next morning before seeing the dr.It kind of did look like pink eye.
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I've had a couple of gems, but the one that really sticks out in my mind actually happened about a month or so ago.
A young mother brought in a 6 year old to emerg, she was super nice, and apologetic because she thought that she was wasting my time, because she said that her son had started to develop different spots all over his body and she has no idea why. My initial first thought was chicken pox, so I had some swords and shields up ready to go for the anti-vax debate, but she claimed that she had her son vaccinated at all stages up to that point, and upon closer inspection they were mass of clusters of warts.
Not uncommon, but because of how rapidly that they were growing, I ordered some blood work to make sure there wasn't an underlying cause as kids immune systems are pretty well equipped to handle that sort of thing. And I'm really glad that she brought him in, because he had a severely low white blood cell count which revealed a primary immune deficiency disease.
FYI- if someone tries to give you an IM injection like this picture, they’re idiots and you should not let them touch you.
Agreed - thankfully, this is probably a stock shot x
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Can I go ahead and speak on behalf of my doctor? 19m at the time (33 now), I felt sick for about a week, flu-like symptoms, didn't want to eat, just felt bad all over. One day at work I feel a very uncomfortable cramp/tear in my abdomen, so I go to one of those 24 hour clinics. At this point I'm slumped over, can't stand up straight without insane amount of pain, just generally uncomfortable and hating life. After a few hours at this clinic, they say "You probably have kidney stones, go home, drink fluids, sleep it off". This seemed fine to me, I was ready to go home and listen to the doc, all was good. BUT my girlfriend at the time (didn't last much longer than that) wasn't a fan of this diagnosis and drove me to the E.R., against my wishes of course. After a few minutes at the E.R., they determine my appendix has ruptured and I'm going septic. Apparently I was pretty lucky to not have died, though I did pick up bacterial pneumonia while in the hospital, so the recovery kinda sucked. Now I just have a crazy 6-7 inch scar on my belly to remind me to not avoid hospitals when I'm sick.
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Even if they broke up, I hope they never forget they owe her their life.
I’m not a doctor but I originally went in to the doctors because I was really tired the doctor waved it off but my mom insisted I should get a CBC (complete blood count) they found that my platelets were extremely low which resulted in them running additional tests to find that I actually had acute lymphoblastic leukemia. No idea to this day why my mom made me go back to get a CBC but I’m great full
Edit: I get it it’s grateful
edit #2: a lot of people are saying that the doctor should have run a CBC to start with but in her defense I am a minor and it was a school day so i think that the doc thought that I was tired from sports or something normal and was trying to skip school
Yes. Assumptions may make an a*s out of the doctor, but they can make a corpse out of their patient.
Load More Replies...That’s the kind of cancer I had, being overly tired is what got me diagnosed too
I’ve had some people in my life trying to get blood work done on me because of chronic fatigue and unusual hair thinning. Maybe I should stop telling them it’s nothing…
I can’t count how many “I was told it was a headache but I just wanted to come in and have it looked at in case it was something else”’s I’ve seen. Of course, those are the patients that are the nicest and are profusely apologizing for “wasting our time”, and of course, those are the patients that have a brain tumor show up on their CT scans...
Edit: Well this blew up. Big apologies to everyone but I’m not a doctor. I work in the hospital alongside other doctors and I get the chance to see everyone they see. Apologies if I misled. That was not my intention, and I will make sure to be clearer next time.
Moral of all these stories is if you think something is wrong get it checked out.
Selection bias: if crazy ‘Thank God They Came In For A Second Opinion’ Stories are asked, that's the impression we are left with. But one of the reasons shït gets crazy is the insane number of people with nothing really wrong with them crowding the health care system. Let's make writing an antibiotic scrip without proof of a bacterial infection punishable by law, and see what happens next.
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I got a moderate traumatic brain injury in October and the week after I got home from the hospital I wasn't acting like myself was refusing to eat and just didn't make much sense. My mom called the doctor a few times they said it was normal but to take me in if anything changed. She took me in on the Saturday a week later becaude I started slurring my speech and was unsteady on my feet. The injury cause my sodium levels to dropfrom 140(normal) to 119. This in turn caused stroke like symptoms which were in reality a series of small seizures
*Any* head injury that is followed by abnormal pain or behavior *must* be followed up on in hospital neurology. The brain can't feel pain, so those little symptoms are all you get before the damage becomes permanently debilitating or fatal. Always err on the side of caution here. Speaking from personal experience.
sorry if this is annoying, but can I hear the personal experience you had?
Load More Replies...Pay attention to sodium levels, if it drops low enough, you can enter into coma and may not recover.
Load More Replies...Ooh, I actually did a project on this one. It's called SIADH (Secretion of Inappropriate Anti-Diuretic Hormone) and can happen after a TBI (traumatic brain injury). Your brain tells your body that it's dehydrated which means the kidneys save as much water as possible; in reality you end up over-hydrated and the sodium content in your system is watered down too much. It's a similar mechanism as the one that ends up killing people who take MDMA/ecstasy and drink too much water.
I had my sodium levels drop in the 120s...started as a full-cap headache that nothing would help that became more severe over the course of the week. Went to Urgent Care, affiliated with my doc, and they ran a bunch of tests...couldn't figure it out. Finally, doc said she wanted to run one more test and did sodium. Almost put me in the hospital but I live close enough to home that I could get home safely. Made me take sodium pills and EAT SALT on everything. Still have to use salt more than the average bear.
Not a doc, but a nurse. At a clinic a lady came in for breast pain with a lump. I was in the room for the exam for safety of everyone. The doctor told her it was a sprained muscle and to go away. When he left the room I told her the name of one of our other doctors that specializes in women’s health. Told her she could not let this go. She saw him and he referred her for some radiology and that’s how they found her breast cancer. She later told us all this in a sweet card she sent telling us if I hadn’t told her to advocate for herself she may not have followed up. Edit! Wow my first gold ever! Thanks so much friend! Edit edit! Omg 2 golds?! Wow thanks again! If anyone can take something from this just advocate for yourself and your families in healthcare matters!!! Sometimes you have to make them see it!
Do you ever get the impression that women sometimes aren't taken seriously by doctors?
One of my sisters friends was diagnosed with cancer at age 10. They were advised to pack up their stuff and move across the country to go to a specialist because they would have to stay there for at least a year. They even had to hire a private plane so she wouldn’t get sick on the plane from any passengers. Well before they left they got a second opinion saying it was pneumonia. Then they got a third that again said it is was pneumonia. Now several years later she is healthy and never got cancer treatment and has been tested for cancer regularly.
Not a doctor, but the patient. Went to my family doctor with the worst headache of my entire life. She dismissed it, telling me it was a tension headache and that I should take a Tylenol and lay down in a dark room. Over the course of the next month, I saw her a total of 13 times, each time with worsening symptoms. First it was dizziness, then vomiting, then eventually I could no longer see out of my right eye. Every time she told me it was just a tension headache or a “weird migraine”, gave me a prescription for pain killers and sent me on my way. The final straw was when I was no longer able to walk properly. I would try to take a step, but all I could manage was this weird shuffle. She reluctantly agreed to send me to a neurologist. The next day I showed up at his office and was in there for less than a minute. He took one look in my eyes and immediately called an ambulance. Turns out I had hydrocephalus. My ventricles were 5x the size they were supposed to be, and my brain was literally being squeezed out of my head. Go figure!
Not all doctors. Just some. They might have a harder time being serious about it because they’ve seen too many people who actually are ok. And they see those patients every day because it’s their job, so technically no one is special. For the patients, going to the doctor is not a frequent activity and they all deserve to be treated seriously, but for some doctors they might underestimate people’s illnesses due to experience.
Load More Replies...I've always heard that if you have "the worst headache of your life" go to the emergency room!
22 yo guy came in after seeing his primary at another hospital. His mom was my patient and asked if I would see him (I am an Internal Med doc). He had told his doctor he had a headache. I did a usual full review of symptoms since he was new and he also marked his left testicle had a lump. Did exam and he had hard small lump on testicle. Knew right away likely had metastatic testicular cancer. 1 stat brain scan and Testicular ultrasound later confirmed it. Asked him if told other doctor about the lump and he said yes but the other doctor told him it was normal. Edit: He lived by the way but it was close a few times. So fellows if you note a lump on your testicle ask for an ultrasound and don’t be embarrassed to bring it up. Edit 2: For those of you who are concerned after examining yourself: There is a small soft area posteriorly that should be similar on both your testicles known as the epididymis. That is normal. A hard lump on only one side only is not. Monthly self checks between ages 15-34 can be done but since rare (5/100,000) not a general recommendation.
I believe testicular cancer is most prevalent in younger men, isn't it?
From the time I was 13,i had a growth on my thumb. It became so big that it affected my piano playing. I went to the doctor about it, and he diagnosed it as a wart. That had been there for nearly a decade. He used acid on it. That hurt, and did nothing. He used an electrical instrument to burn it. That really f*****g hurt, and again did nothing. I moved to the UK, and was at a dinner party a friend was hosting. She was a nurse, and many of her friends were nurses and doctors. One of the doctors, a surgeon, saw the 'wart' on my thumb and became very excited. He called to his wife, a nurse, to come see. He told me that he couldn't diagnose me because I wasn't in clinic, but to make an appointment with my GP. I did, and was diagnosed with a neurofibroma, a type of tumour that developes around a nerve. I had surgery to remove it. It was the size of a lima bean. Thankfully, it was benign, but no wonder the wart treatments hurt like a sonovabitch.
Not a doctor, but remember reading something related in another thread. /u/pete1729 said [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1hw0f9/doctors_of_reddit_what_has_been_the_worst_case_of/cayk4g7/): > My girlfriend is an ER doc. A hippie type guy came in a week after a bike accident. He'd been treated and released by another hospital. He was complaining of some neck pain. She immediately had him backboarded and ordered xrays. >The xray tech called her and asked why, when he had been treated across town, were they xraying a guy who was obviously indigent. >"Because his neck is broken. OK?" > She was right. If he had tripped on a door mat and fallen, he would have likely been paralysed. > I like to remind her of this one when she's had a hard night of fighting off drug seekers and attention w
Only a medical student but I had one in my GP rotation that I won't ever forget. I'm taking consultations but have the real GP on backup to prescribe and handle more delicate tasks. 60's lady comes in with bleeding again, she said she had hemorroids before and got treated by the last GP perfectly fine, no problems. Bleeding stopped and now a year or so later has started again. I question her and it seems, by all accounts, to be the same problem. She just wanted to double check with the GP before we went and got the creams and such. I offer to examine her to make sure and she gives me a "oh go on then", her back passage is normal but I figure maybe the problem has resolved, as I can't see any blood on DR. As an after thought I ask the GP (female) to take over for a speculum examination. PT nice enough to let me look: no haemorroids, significant visible cervical cancer, like, I can see the outgrowth through the os. F**k. I ALMOST let her go without offering speculum and vaginal examination (since i figured ladies have a good idea of where stuff is coming from). GP definitely would have stepped in if i'd sent her out, but damn, if it wasn't for her and mine iffy feelings on the matter. Who knows. Thank god she came back to double check. We reckon first doctor must have missed it.
Ladies, get your pap/smear tests regularly. And tell your doc to get a good visual while the speculum is in there, too. I had a pre-cancerous lesion on my cervix for 7 years that the pap test didn't pick up, but the doc could see it. When I was young, I got my healthcare wherever I could get it; I was always seeing somebody new. One time my provider said, "I don't like the looks of that", and sent me in to get the lesion biopsied; it was pre-cancerous. I got it frozen off before it turned into cancer. I consider myself lucky.
Why do doctors say over 65 ladies don't need pap smears? I mean, everything is still down there, why is it suddenly immortal at 65?
Psychiatrist here. A 30 year old man with mild depressive symptoms was in-and-out of the hospital fairly quickly. He was under pressure from his home life, living with 4 roommates who were making life a bit difficult for him. No suicidal thoughts. He was cleared of all psychopathologies by me and two other doctors. A few months later he came back. Same symptoms, however this time he talked about 5 roommates. It felt wrong, and I digged in his story. Tried to contact his roommates. He lived alone and was severely psychotic. I have no idea to this day how he hid it so well from everyone. EDIT: a few more details: The patient talked, dressed and acted normally however after admitting him for a longer period we noticed he talked with his "roommates" often. He was single, no contact with his family and somehow working, however in a routine job with little to no personal contact. After a few talks he also claimed other peoples thoughts were sometimes "thrown at him and sitting on his head", and he could thus read people's minds against his will. The interesting thing about this patient was, that his internal world somehow fitted the external world when asked - his roommates sounded perfectly plausible (they were not e.g. shadow-people, vikings, 12 m tall) and they teased him by hiding his stuff. But he ate with them, watched TV with them, so on. Normally a person with paranoid schizophrenia (paranoid meaning all types of delusions) will have multiple symptoms sometimes easy to see for the untrained eye. The patients can dress, talk and present themselves in odd ways, usually different from cultural norms. They can have incoherent speech, make up words and phrases or are clearly separated from reality (another patient of mine insisted that I was in jail for medicating him, even when we talked). When we quickly "scan" a patient for psychotic symptoms we basically look for inconsistencies in the patients experience of the world - the patients normally know "something is wrong" or "weird" or "different", but often belive it is the world around them, that have changed. This is due to discrepancy between what they experience (input), failed assessment of the inputs (due to the thinking disorder) and testing hypothesis based on failed assessments which collide with the real world. This will activate defense mechanisms fx denial, wild explanations, accepting both "realities" at the same time, and so on. (e.g "I am not sick, my doctor must be a bad guy, bad guys are in jail, my doctor are in jail, but my doctor is sitting right in front of me at the same time, he must have an identical twin or this is an alternate reality). This is usually the way delusions are made. To summarize: when we scan for psychosis, we look for inconsistencies between the patients subjective experience of thinking, being and acting and the objective reality accepted by the generel cultural norm. This patient managed to live in a subjective psychotic world that just fitted so well with the objective reality that he tricked several psychiatrists including myself.
So… is my world real right now, or is that pizza I had for lunch actually not pizza?
It depends. If the pizza is talking to you, it is a real pizza. However, if the pizza is shouting at you, it's most likely a goat. If it's making eyes at you, it's probably your girlfriend trying to make a point. Take a bite to see. Ooof, I forgot the last option... If the pizza is not there you just bit the shinola out of your fingers. Sorry about that!
Load More Replies...Military doctors suck. Ask anyone. For the past four years, I've had abnormal pap results. Each year, they told me it was fine and that it hadn't grown or become worse. But NO ONE would look further into it. They insisted I didn't need any opinions. Since I've been busy with life and work the past few years, I decided they were right. Cause I'm an idiot. FINALLY, my new doc saw the results and became immediately concerned. She asked if anyone had told me to do a biopsy. I explained what the previous docs told me. She shook her head and booked me an appointment with the dysplasia clinic ASAP. Turns out I had cancer cells that, while not fully bad, put me at a high risk for cervical cancer in the future. They performed a LEEP procedure and successfully eradicated what could've developed into something much worse. I'm so thankful to my doctor for knowing what was up and taking action. She's awesome and I'm going to be sad when she PCS'.
That’s CRAZY. People can be so DUMB… it’s crazy honestly. It’s especially crazy that multiple doctors failed to notice that you were not ok
Obligatory not a doctor, but I'm good friends with one. I get stories all the time. Two stuck with me. #1 Guy in his late 20's comes in complaining about chest pain. Nurses and first ER doc write him off. They ran an EKG and didn't interpret the results correctly because it was subtle. But when he got ahold of them, he was having a heart attack... #2 14 year old girl. Discharged from another hospital for being "combative". Brought into my friends hospital because her mom was persistent. Liver enzyme count was 10,000! (normal is like 10-40 for AST) He put two and two together and immediately gave her Acetylcysteine (Tylenol antidote). Turns out, the girl tried to kill herself. She was life flighted out to a bigger hospital and was in ICU for a month, he thought for sure she needed a new liver. BUT she lucked out. Between her age and it being caught just in time, the girl made a full recovery.
Interesting to hear your doctor tells you about patients. I always wondered if doctors talked about their patients or not 🤷🏼♀️
What a fortunate girl, that the 2nd hospital's doctor felt prompted to check labs and not brush her aside for being combative and that her mother was so persistent in knowing something wasn't right. I hope she received the emotional help that she needed also and that her emotional needs have been improved.
As an ophthalmologist, I've seen quite a few misses unfortunately. The eye is just not very well studied outside of this field so many doctors do not feel comfortable with the eye which is understandable. There was one case of a small child who had a minor trauma to the eye. The ER called and stated that everything looked fine and she was most likely ready to go home but would prefer if we came down to take a look. Got down there, examined her and she had an open globe (eyeball was ruptured meaning there is actually a hole in the eye that needs to be closed surgically). Was very glad we got that call. Another time a patient came in to the ER complaining of complete loss of vision. Upon exam his vision was light perception only in both eyes. This means that the patient cannot even see a hand waving 2 inches from their face but they can still make out light vs dark. He stated he had went to the ER 2 months ago when his vision first started deteriorating but was told he had "conjunctivitis" and given antibiotics ointment. He did not return to the ER for 2 months because he did not have insurance and was homeless at the time. My alarm bells were already ringing at this point. I did an exam to look at the retina and saw numerous white plaques which is a sign of inflammation with infection being the most concerning. The patient ended up having syphilis that had gone into his eye and made him blind. Unfortunately, at this point his prognosis for recovering vision was poor even with treatment. This next one was not really a miss but more of a delayed diagnosis. A patient came to the ER 1 month after a gunshot wound to the head. Did surprisingly well since the bullet missed most of the important structures in the brain. He was back in the ER as the swelling on his eye had not gotten better. It's common after a big trauma like that for the eye to be swollen for 1 to 2 weeks before getting better. He also was complaining of double vision. On exam his eye was swollen and being pushed forward out of orbit and he could not move his eye to the left. Given his history I was worried he developed something called an artery venous fistula which is where an artery and a vein combine causing the high pressure in the artery to enter the vein and build up a back pressure causing the vein to engorge because it can no longer drain blood. Got a ct scan to confirm. Patient went to surgery the next day. I do caution the general public to be weary of this thread though. It is unfair to doctors look at this thread and claim incompetence. Diseases usually develop on a continuum age and one doctor might catch it at a later date because it has had more time to present itself. There is also a stepwise approach to medicine. If you gave everyone with a headache a ct scan there would be more harm then good. It's possible that when a person gets a second opinion they see the first doctor already ruled a lot of things out so they are in a better position to diagnose, whereas if you had stayed with the original doctor and continued to work with him he may have gotten to the diagnosis as well. As a patient it can be frustrating but be mindful that most doctors do want what's best for you and there may be a lot of things going on in the background you are unaware of. For example when patients come in for cold symptoms, they assess usually frustrated when they are told there is no treatment needed. They feel like it is a waste of a trip. But that doctor used his medical knowledge to 1. Reassure you 2. Avoid harmful if unneeded antibiotics 3. Made sure you didn't actually have a diagnosis that requires emergent treatment
Not a doctor but my doctor said this to me. I had a PICC line (like a long IV that stays in your arm for a while) for infusions. I had a complication that resulted in a type of allergic reaction, which caused an ulcer that got infected. An infection can spread through a line very quickly and turn into sepsis because the line goes right into your heart. I was sent to the hospital by my infusion nurse and the doctor at the hospital told me he didn’t have any knowledge about central lines, and sent me home without doing bloodwork or looking at the site. I went to a better hospital in a nearby city the next day and the whole line had to be taken out, plus a course of two antibiotics. Doctor there called the other one an idiot.
Here’s the thing, did the idiot get told he was an idiot or did the correct doc just tell the pt that? I get that everyone makes mistakes but with Drs this is so much more serious that when a mistake happens the correction should come from a fellow doctor who the less skilled dr should respect.
What gets me about this one is that the doctor admitted he knew nothing about central lines, but instead of thinking ‘I should probably refer the patient to someone who does’ he instead thought ‘nah, it’s probably fine’ and didn’t bother to do anything. Even though they had been referred to the hospital by another medical practitioner… Like surely that would be the time you’d be more sure that it was not likely to be fine? Unless he didn’t bother to read any of their notes?
My dad went to the same ear doctor for around 9 years due to poor hearing, and was told there was nothing wrong. When he finally went to a second doctor, they referred him to the hospital and found tumors in his ears that had eaten entirely through his inner ear bones and ear drums. He needed 4 ops to remove them, one every 6 months. If the second doctor hadn't offered their opinion he would probably have had tumours eating through the back of his skull into his brain
This woman came in through the Emergency room with a Chest pain. She visited her GP 2 times already (Monday, Wednesday), he treated it locally with subcutaneous anesthesia injection (Lidocain). Turned out she had huge myocardial infarction, as we told her what we think it is and that she needs immediate coronary intervention, the stress caused further contraction of the closed coronary vessel and she had asystole right there. After ca. 2 minutes she jumped back on and we could eventually save her, although her heart was damaged after this. But the follow-up showed improved heart performance, so she got that going for her, which is kind of nice...
Not a Doctor but a lucky patient, during my last 4 days of Boot Camp, I woke up 2 hours before we were supposed to and I couldn't breathe, I was gagging and choking and it took about 2 minutes before I could again. Everyone thought I was just malingering so that I'd get out of the last 4 days and relax until I went home. Went to a doctor and they did basic tests, said it could be my allergies or something (suuuper allergic to pollen but not this bad) and I was sent back to the barracks. My trouble with breathing continues and I'm more sore than I have been since the first week or so. Anyways, I go home (still live with my family) and and I was obviously tired and sore and wanted to be lazy for a bit, so when the first couple days I was sleeping for 16 hours a day my family just thought I was exhausted and needed rest. After 7 or so days of this they got tired of me being lazy and decided make me get up outa bed and do a bunch of house work, wash their cars just anything to keep me outa bed. I tell them I don't feel good and everything still hurts, my chest feels heavy and I need to get back in bed but they aren't having it. Finally I convince them to let me see the doctor, but they just agree its muscle pains primarily, and that I need to keep using them to eventually make the soreness go away. Eventually, going back to University, one of my professors notices I don't look to well, I explain my symptoms and tell him what's going on, (this was a math prof. not even medically trained just common sense) he suggests I get tested for Mono, and lo and behold guess what I got? Turns out, the people doing the health screening neglected several people, and the officers in charge of us said if ever out of water share canteens with the closest person to you. So no running to refill it or anything, this apparently spread mono throughout my Battalion. When I got a doctor who confirmed this, they later find out my Spleen was on the verge of rupturing, and if I had gone another few days or a week more, ~~it would have and I would have drowned internally~~ could have caused a life-threatening intra-abdominal hemorrhage. Edit: Drowning internally is not possible, this was likely an exaggeration from me trying to remember and retell the story over the years, maybe a mixup in my head or something. In actuality I would have just become really really sick, would have required surgery and s**t but I wouldn't have drowned and died. Apologies!
When I had mono in my freshman year of high school due to my sister's friend grabbing my coke and drinking from it and me drinking the rest after him, the possibility of death was something that my pediatrician clearly warned me and my mother about. I was bed bound due to my spleen being enlarged and was told not to be up for any reason. I could only go to the bathroom with assistance. My energy level was so low that if no one was around to help me to the bathroom, I had to crawl because I was so exhausted and in pain. It was a horrible experience.
That sounds like it sucked. Like, a lot
Load More Replies...not a doctor but we took my baby brother to the er because of extremely labored breathing and he became really cold and uncharacteristically calm. they couldn't find anything wrong with him and sent us home with tylenol. the next morning we went to a sick clinic and they took him to an out of town hospital immediately (the one here clearly sucks) with several different viruses and a double ear infection. he had to stay in the hospital 5 or 6 days and be on oxygen. the doctors said he could've died during the night he was sent home because the effort of breathing would've been too much so he would've just stopped. he's happy and healthy now, though, thankfully!
I am a doctor (Primary Care with some Emergency), and can't really think of any good examples of this right now. It's definitely happened, but never in a way that I end up holding it against the other doctor involved. You kind of end up too busy doing your job. One phrase that I find myself repeating to patients is "I don't really understand what [previous doctor] was thinking here, but the way that the guidelines/my experience has taught me to approach this problem is [hopefully correct solution]" Most of the time, the fact that the patient has gone looking for a second opinion or another consult tells you about their level of concern and changes your management. Doctor #1 might see a patient with 2 days of low abdo pain and (correctly) reassure the patient that it's probably nothing and come back in a week if symptoms continue. Patient then goes to Doctor #2 a couple of days later, more worried and cheesed off at #1. With the increased level of concern, #2 then orders an ultrasound that reveals Ovarian Cancer. The issue here is that both doctors are correct. The next abdominal pain that comes in to see either doctor at 2 days of symptoms will still receive reassurance as their primary treatment, because it will most likely be something simple like constipation or cramping. Giving every patient with simple symptoms an ultrasound is not economically feasible. I would hope that any diagnoses I've missed or mismanaged (and I assume there's been a few) were picked up by another doctor and that they also gave me the benefit of the doubt. (Do I win by being the first not not a doctor?)
What do you mean? I also sense something off.
Load More Replies...Cancer RN. This doctor has learned that the US medical system is trying to make medicine all about the costs to the insurer and/or the medical center that might have to eat the cost, not the needs of the patient. If a practitioner knows something is wrong then it is right to investigate. But to jump into a full blown investigation without having a solid idea of diagnosis and if not then trying the more simple (not useless!) medical solutions first is just giving in to the critics of the system. Don't hesitate if you know, but a careful escalating hierarchy of treatments or testing if you are unsure is a lot less likely to get tests and treatments denied in the long run. It sucks to have a non-medical 25 year old with no medical back ground critiquing and ruling on your every move and it certainly doesn't help the patient.
This is a good reminder that if you’re still concerned about your health issue it’s better to see another doctor than to just gloss it over and not go, because you’re worried that you’re going to be thought of as difficult.
A bit of background: in my field of audiology we have people licensed to diagnose not only hearing issues but balance disorders and other factors impacting listening and understanding. We also have another field who popped up when it was not considered as ethical for us to *treat* those more serious hearing issues (i.e. with hearing aids) but they don’t need the same doctorate level training, just barely high school or some college depending on jurisdiction. So I had a patient come in with a serious difference between left and right hearing and this in itself is considered a red flag because both ears are exposed to the same things over time... and there are very few explanations as to why one would get so bad. The patient could hardly understand words on that bad side and the better ear was pretty good overall, just minor hearing loss perhaps age-related. Immediately upon seeing these test results, the ENT and I agreed to send this patient for an MRI of the head because something was off. The patient confirmed no MRI or medical treatment had been recommended in the past and only hearing aids by this lesser-trained hearing aid dealer (working for a popular U.S. chain). The patient had been wearing these hearing aids already for a few years. The MRI results came back. Massive tumor on the hearing nerve. The hearing aid dealer is being investigated currently for malpractice (or more specifically a violation of state laws regarding red flags). Edit: since a few of you are asking what happened with the patient, I’ll paste what got buried below. I don’t usually get to see these cases if they get sent for surgery. I’m not in a big metro area so the very specialized ENTs (neurotologists) have their own audiologists to handle post-op testing. Anticlimactic, I agree
Wow, it's good to know that if there's a big difference between the two ears then it warrants further investigation. That's good info to have.
Years ago I was doing my clinicals for ultrasound. I was doing a breast scan as a follow up to a mammogram. I found what the radiologist wanted a second look at fairly quickly (benign cyst,) and since I hadn't done many breast scans, I asked the patient if I could take a few minutes to practice the scanning technique. She was fine with that, so while we chatted, I continued scanning, and found, imaged, measured, and noted bloodflow on something I wanted to ask my supervisor about. My supervisor came in to check my work, looked at my images, scanned around a bit, then told the patient she could get dressed, we'd be right back. Then she grabbed my wrist, hauled me down to the radiologist's office and said, "LOOK WHAT KAYCEE FOUND!" That odd thing I had noticed was stage 4 breast cancer, missed by the mammogram, outside the area I was told to double check. She had a mastectomy that saved her life because she graciously let an ultrasound student practice on her.
@kaycee: truly appreciate your attention to detail and willingness to explore outside the requested boundaries. First person in family to survive cancer because a similarly dedicated professional took that bit of time and effort. Hope you have a brilliant and productive career in medicine.
Load More Replies...My wildest? It's always a medical professional. (And I say this as an MD.) Always. My FIL has an MD, ended up needing hospital b/c he cant tell his pneumonia from his allergies. My hubby's sis-in-law, nurse practitioner, nearly lost a pregnancy b/c "she knows what's going on" My mom is another. Registered nurse, figured she had chronic sinusitis, turned out her sense of smell died b/c she had a brain tumor! I mean, they taught us in med school not to self-diagnose, wtf, just go get an outside view, and if you're not sure, get a second opinion or a third. Signed, an MD.
I once convinced my ex that she had a spider bite on her face, despite the resource I used saying “Do NOT self diagnose spider bites!” Next day she goes to work, her boss sees her face and asks if she can send a picture to her spouse, a doctor. She had shingles on her face that could’ve infected her eye nerves and she could’ve lost her sight. It was an EMERGENCY to get treatment. I learned a lifelong lesson.
Load More Replies...I couldn’t even read through to the end. For those people who contributed, I will do so later. You deserve to be heard. At one particular hospital (unfortunately the one closest to where we live) there is soooo much to say about it. I could write a short book. But, one from our family doc, who was normally great. My mom (fragile cardiac patient) went to him with frequent chest pain. Unusual for her. Usually well controlled. Did some bloodwork. Haemoglobin 82. He was going to send her to a chest pain clinic. I spoke up and said at the hospital that would get her 2 units of blood. Either right over his head or chose to ignore me. Not taking no for an answer, the next day I called her kidney doc. He said what I said and 2 days later was getting 2 units of blood. For the oh so many screw ups that happened at this hospital with her, thank dog I’m a nurse with a lot of experience with docs who are in the history books. Otherwise…..
I had to stop reading because I've been through similar experiences. After surgery for a herniated disc, I still felt excruciating back pain. The orthopedic surgeon told me it was caused by scarring, and blithely sent me to a chiropractor whose "adjustments" were pure agony. After several months of this, I went to another doctor, who ordered an X-ray. As soon as he saw the results, he ordered an emergency CT scan. The same afternoon as the scan, his office called and told me to go to the emergency room immediately. I had a massive staph infection at the site of the original surgery. I was in the hospital for almost a month and had to have intravenous antibiotics for the next year. The infection completely destroyed 4 discs, and the infectious diseases doctor told me that I was lucky to still be alive.diseases specialist took
Not a medical professional, but I have Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis. Took us a month to diagnose properly because I didn’t have some symptoms (swelling, heat, etc), just pain. A bunch of doctors saw my anxiety diagnosis and said it was just that and I and my mom were hypochondriacs. To be clear: I could not MOVE independently due to the pain.
I'm a medical professional who's background is ER and ICU. Diagnosers (yes I made that word up) use tests and probabilities to diagnose patients. Some tests are specific to a certain diagnosis but not really selective meaning the tests are not accurate at determining whether the disease is present or not. The opposite is true as well. If a test is selective but not specific, the test is very sensitive to whether the patient has the disease or not but unfortunately it's not specific to that disease (I.e. d-dimer). Something they are teaching in school is to get away from authoritarian medicine. So "I'm the boss because I know more than you". It's outdated and leads to a lot of lawsuits. The model they're shooting for is to co-direct with patients. The doctor teaches the patient about the tests and diagnoses and the patient and doctor together make the decision. Unfortunately arrogance and pride permeate medicine just like any other profession.
I had an intestinal surgery where I'd lost about 2' of my small intestines. About 4 or 5 days after this I got home from the surgery, I started noticing that I was full and just couldn't eat. Then I realized I was just always tired and I was starting to be disoriented all the time. I called the surgeon's office for the next 3 days with no call back, and finally went in to the hospital to go to his office. They said I was fine, and sent me away saying come back in 3 days on your appointment. I ended up taking an Uber to another hospital, where I after I was admitted it turns out I had blood clots that had shut down my liver and stomach, and we're shutting down my kidneys. They told me if I had waited to go see my doctor I wouldn't had made it another day.
I have a story for you: About 2.5 years ago I went for holidays and got bitten by a tick in a barn in easter Europe. I did not notice until I got back and a strange purple-ish area started growing on my lower leg. It was itchy and quite frankly I didn't think I should even have it examined until a friend said it may be Lyme disease a few days later. It clearly had a bullseye shape for a few days, but when I took the first few photos, it was fading already. My GP was still in COVID mode, so face to face appointments were off the table still. They asked me to upload photos and tell the story. Then they said it was nothing and I should apply some cream. Well fact is that Lyme desease does not necessarily cause problems immediately, but it can be extremely severe later in life if untreated. I confronted the GP, asked for a second opinion and even told them: I have kids, I can't afford to die early due to your carelessness, so do your job properly. Long story short, I got treatment for Lyme
Went to a hospital for horrible abdominal pain. They though I was a drug seeker (even though I had 2 people with me explaining the situation). They did tests and said nothing was wrong. This was all night, eventually I told the doctor he was a bad doctor and he kicked me out of the ER. I went to a psych appointment a few hours later and ended up on the floor writhing in pain. Office called an ambulance and was taken to a different hospital. Told them what happened, they immediately gave me morphine and ran tests. My gallbladder was so infected, it started seeping. I had to stay in the hospital for a few days to heal the infection and then they could operate on me to remove the gallbladder.
I went to the ER with absolutely excruciating abdominal pain. The staff dismissed it as menstrual cramps (I wasn’t even on my period) and I should go home and stop wasting hospital time (those silly females and their periods, right?). Long story short it took my having a screaming fit for them to reluctantly do a scan. Hey, guess what, my large intestine was necrotising and I was basically dying. I had surgery and I am fine, but I would have died if I hadn’t been one of those Karen patients and instead taken their advice.
Years ago I was doing my clinicals for ultrasound. I was doing a breast scan as a follow up to a mammogram. I found what the radiologist wanted a second look at fairly quickly (benign cyst,) and since I hadn't done many breast scans, I asked the patient if I could take a few minutes to practice the scanning technique. She was fine with that, so while we chatted, I continued scanning, and found, imaged, measured, and noted bloodflow on something I wanted to ask my supervisor about. My supervisor came in to check my work, looked at my images, scanned around a bit, then told the patient she could get dressed, we'd be right back. Then she grabbed my wrist, hauled me down to the radiologist's office and said, "LOOK WHAT KAYCEE FOUND!" That odd thing I had noticed was stage 4 breast cancer, missed by the mammogram, outside the area I was told to double check. She had a mastectomy that saved her life because she graciously let an ultrasound student practice on her.
@kaycee: truly appreciate your attention to detail and willingness to explore outside the requested boundaries. First person in family to survive cancer because a similarly dedicated professional took that bit of time and effort. Hope you have a brilliant and productive career in medicine.
Load More Replies...My wildest? It's always a medical professional. (And I say this as an MD.) Always. My FIL has an MD, ended up needing hospital b/c he cant tell his pneumonia from his allergies. My hubby's sis-in-law, nurse practitioner, nearly lost a pregnancy b/c "she knows what's going on" My mom is another. Registered nurse, figured she had chronic sinusitis, turned out her sense of smell died b/c she had a brain tumor! I mean, they taught us in med school not to self-diagnose, wtf, just go get an outside view, and if you're not sure, get a second opinion or a third. Signed, an MD.
I once convinced my ex that she had a spider bite on her face, despite the resource I used saying “Do NOT self diagnose spider bites!” Next day she goes to work, her boss sees her face and asks if she can send a picture to her spouse, a doctor. She had shingles on her face that could’ve infected her eye nerves and she could’ve lost her sight. It was an EMERGENCY to get treatment. I learned a lifelong lesson.
Load More Replies...I couldn’t even read through to the end. For those people who contributed, I will do so later. You deserve to be heard. At one particular hospital (unfortunately the one closest to where we live) there is soooo much to say about it. I could write a short book. But, one from our family doc, who was normally great. My mom (fragile cardiac patient) went to him with frequent chest pain. Unusual for her. Usually well controlled. Did some bloodwork. Haemoglobin 82. He was going to send her to a chest pain clinic. I spoke up and said at the hospital that would get her 2 units of blood. Either right over his head or chose to ignore me. Not taking no for an answer, the next day I called her kidney doc. He said what I said and 2 days later was getting 2 units of blood. For the oh so many screw ups that happened at this hospital with her, thank dog I’m a nurse with a lot of experience with docs who are in the history books. Otherwise…..
I had to stop reading because I've been through similar experiences. After surgery for a herniated disc, I still felt excruciating back pain. The orthopedic surgeon told me it was caused by scarring, and blithely sent me to a chiropractor whose "adjustments" were pure agony. After several months of this, I went to another doctor, who ordered an X-ray. As soon as he saw the results, he ordered an emergency CT scan. The same afternoon as the scan, his office called and told me to go to the emergency room immediately. I had a massive staph infection at the site of the original surgery. I was in the hospital for almost a month and had to have intravenous antibiotics for the next year. The infection completely destroyed 4 discs, and the infectious diseases doctor told me that I was lucky to still be alive.diseases specialist took
Not a medical professional, but I have Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis. Took us a month to diagnose properly because I didn’t have some symptoms (swelling, heat, etc), just pain. A bunch of doctors saw my anxiety diagnosis and said it was just that and I and my mom were hypochondriacs. To be clear: I could not MOVE independently due to the pain.
I'm a medical professional who's background is ER and ICU. Diagnosers (yes I made that word up) use tests and probabilities to diagnose patients. Some tests are specific to a certain diagnosis but not really selective meaning the tests are not accurate at determining whether the disease is present or not. The opposite is true as well. If a test is selective but not specific, the test is very sensitive to whether the patient has the disease or not but unfortunately it's not specific to that disease (I.e. d-dimer). Something they are teaching in school is to get away from authoritarian medicine. So "I'm the boss because I know more than you". It's outdated and leads to a lot of lawsuits. The model they're shooting for is to co-direct with patients. The doctor teaches the patient about the tests and diagnoses and the patient and doctor together make the decision. Unfortunately arrogance and pride permeate medicine just like any other profession.
I had an intestinal surgery where I'd lost about 2' of my small intestines. About 4 or 5 days after this I got home from the surgery, I started noticing that I was full and just couldn't eat. Then I realized I was just always tired and I was starting to be disoriented all the time. I called the surgeon's office for the next 3 days with no call back, and finally went in to the hospital to go to his office. They said I was fine, and sent me away saying come back in 3 days on your appointment. I ended up taking an Uber to another hospital, where I after I was admitted it turns out I had blood clots that had shut down my liver and stomach, and we're shutting down my kidneys. They told me if I had waited to go see my doctor I wouldn't had made it another day.
I have a story for you: About 2.5 years ago I went for holidays and got bitten by a tick in a barn in easter Europe. I did not notice until I got back and a strange purple-ish area started growing on my lower leg. It was itchy and quite frankly I didn't think I should even have it examined until a friend said it may be Lyme disease a few days later. It clearly had a bullseye shape for a few days, but when I took the first few photos, it was fading already. My GP was still in COVID mode, so face to face appointments were off the table still. They asked me to upload photos and tell the story. Then they said it was nothing and I should apply some cream. Well fact is that Lyme desease does not necessarily cause problems immediately, but it can be extremely severe later in life if untreated. I confronted the GP, asked for a second opinion and even told them: I have kids, I can't afford to die early due to your carelessness, so do your job properly. Long story short, I got treatment for Lyme
Went to a hospital for horrible abdominal pain. They though I was a drug seeker (even though I had 2 people with me explaining the situation). They did tests and said nothing was wrong. This was all night, eventually I told the doctor he was a bad doctor and he kicked me out of the ER. I went to a psych appointment a few hours later and ended up on the floor writhing in pain. Office called an ambulance and was taken to a different hospital. Told them what happened, they immediately gave me morphine and ran tests. My gallbladder was so infected, it started seeping. I had to stay in the hospital for a few days to heal the infection and then they could operate on me to remove the gallbladder.
I went to the ER with absolutely excruciating abdominal pain. The staff dismissed it as menstrual cramps (I wasn’t even on my period) and I should go home and stop wasting hospital time (those silly females and their periods, right?). Long story short it took my having a screaming fit for them to reluctantly do a scan. Hey, guess what, my large intestine was necrotising and I was basically dying. I had surgery and I am fine, but I would have died if I hadn’t been one of those Karen patients and instead taken their advice.
