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Dad Grounds Daughter For 2 Years After She Ruins His Engagement, Gets A Reality Check
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Dad Grounds Daughter For 2 Years After She Ruins His Engagement, Gets A Reality Check

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Getting remarried while having kids is often a complicated ordeal, as one has to balance the needs of the burgeoning relationship with the needs and wants of the kids. Pulling it off seems like no small miracle.

A dad turned to the internet for advice after his teenage daughter destroyed her stepmom’s wedding dress in a successful attempt to get the entire thing called off. He settled on grounding her for an eye-wateringly long two years, until she turned eighteen. Netizens were divided on the entire story.

Sometimes kid’s can’t accept that their parent has a new partner

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A man had his entire relationship ruined when his daughter ripped up his would-be-bride’s dress

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This is the sort of mess that one wouldn’t want to touch with a seven meter (22.9 foot) poll. The horrible passing of the wife and mother, the rapid move to a new woman, the overlooking of the daughters’ needs all culminating in this fiasco seems like a story that is just too much to handle. So it’s important to work through item by item.

First and foremost, the husband and father it seems really has moved on from his first wife. On the face of it, this isn’t necessarily a bad thing, grief is a hard thing to overcome, so working through it is important. However, he didn’t seem to understand that his process was quite a bit different from his daughters. Some folks can move on easily, some never get over that one relationship. This is all to say, the father perhaps needed some therapy first before charging into the dating market.

Instead, he seems to have decided that he needs a new wife and his daughter needs a new mom before anyone, including the new wife, is really ready for the reality of the situation.

As a teen, losing a parent is simply never easy. The fact that she was in a vegetative state is even worse, as it most likely didn’t even give her a true feeling of closure. At the same time, she sees her father move on and spend his attention on another woman. While we don’t exactly know, it does seem like she has had to carry her grief alone.

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The father simply ignored his daughter’s needs

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This is not to say that destroying the dress is good or acceptable behavior, but once you put yourself in her shoes, it’s hard not to be somewhat sympathetic. The father himself, without thinking, tells her his new relationship is the one good thing he has left. This is not something you can just communicate to your grieving teenage daughter and expect her to be ok.

Not only has she lost her mother, it would appear that her father has forgotten about her as well. After all, “Chloe” is living, breathing proof that her mother is gone and that her father wants to just leave her behind. Some step parents and new partners are downright horrible, but even if they are normal, it’s still a difficult adjustment.

While we only have the father’s side of the story, “Chloe’s” reaction is actually quite telling. Committing to a marriage isn’t something most people look at lightly, so getting out of it this far into the process means she saw something she didn’t like. Beyond the troubled relationship with the daughter, she also indicates some red flags which the man never even mentions.

On top of that, the punishment he has decided on isn’t exactly life-ruining, but it’s downright horrible. Not only is he cutting her off from her social life, he seems ok ruining her chances at college. He blames her for ending his relationship, but it would appear that this was just the last straw, not a one-off event. Hopefully, he took the comments to heart and decided to rethink his life.

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Many readers thought the entire family needed help and called him out

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Kathy O'Sherry
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this one is way above my pay grade and they both need serious counseling.

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Sunny Day
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Consensus on Reddit seems to be that this is fake, and "Chloe" wrote "her side" about 6 months ago, where Ella came to her house daily after school, and one day went into her closet & hacked up the wedding dress with scissors.

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Mad Dragon
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The part that got to me the most was when he offered to ship his grieving daughter off to boarding school so he could keep the new wife. The daughter is going to walk out the door the day she turns 18 and never look back.

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Anne Reid
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That, and when he said he’d accepted his wife’s death when she was still alive. I highly doubt the daughter did. Poor girl probably still held out hope that Mom would get a miracle. 6 months later, Dad has a replacement wife. Daughter was acting out, because it was way too soon for her. Poor kid was screaming for help, but dear old dad cared more about moving on. She’s going to go NC. As someone who lost her mother young, I’d have never forgiven my Pop if he’d done that.

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Tristan J
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Terrible dad wonders why daughter is acting out when he clearly resents her in general and has made no effort to give her the love or support she needs to feel secure, whilst having to deal with her dad already prioritising a new partner over her to the extent that he would have shipped her off to boarding school. Emancipation would be closer than reconciliation.

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similarly
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I stopped at "boarding school". You're going to send your daughter to boarding school? What the daughter did was wrong, but she's asking for something. She needs therapy, not boarding school. She needs to feel listened to, needs to feel that her grief over the loss of her mother is respected. She's grieving and people get a little difficult when they're grieving. Sending them away? No.

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Jen
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At this point boarding school would be better for her thsn being stuck at home with her father. There is a boarding school a block from my church and a lot of the faculty and staff are members (and we get a few students coming over every week as well). They make social life a big part of campus life for the kids - lots of trip options, game rooms in all the dorms and social activities planned to help students make and keep friends and date safely. OP's daughter would have a much more fun and welcoming end of HS there vs with his punishments at home.

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Kare Deter
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He only want advice given "with empathy and understanding" when he has neither of those for his daughter - he literally treats her as baggage that can easily be disposed of then wonders why she acts out. *IF* this story is true I hope there is any other adult in this child's life for her to look to for emotional support since her dad is a first class loser and failure as a parent.

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Two_rolling_black_eyes
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another AITA post where is its obviously one sided. 9% in the poll agreed with the dad. Please BP, if you are going to choose these stories, find ones where there is some room for genuine discussion and nuance instead of people just preaching to the choir.

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MR
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This guy sounds terrible. Everything is "me me me me me" with him. He decided to move on with no regard for where his daughter was at. He then pressed this new woman on his daughter when she clearly wasn't ready for it and then got on her when she wasn't accepting of it. All the while this new woman seemed controlling, expected to be put first, further exacerbating the situation. And his response to trying to keep this woman in his life is to toss his daughter aside. He was clearly putting his daughter last in that relationship. She will go 100% NC once she turns 18.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can’t punish a child out of their pain and grief and op is foolish to think that he can. I suspect the therapy would have been more successful if it wasn’t targeted toward making op happy by forgetting her mother and embracing her shiny new replacement.

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anne chan
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wife might be replaceable, but a mother isn't. After the OP lost his wife he only thought about his own grieving process, not that of his daughter. It's allready difficult for many kids to accept the new partner of their parent, but than he only seems to care about his new wife, ignoring his daughter, makes it even worse. He should be there for his daughter, not his new wife.

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Ross “Sarcastic Dad”
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can forgive a lot, but when he offered to send his daughter away to keep the fiancé, it shows you where his head space was at. What an a*****e. I wouldn't send my daughters away for any person on this earth, including my wife. And she would say the same.

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ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I say (without sarcasm) that you’re showing what a father should be. This guy is just…reprehensibly awful as a “father.”

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Julia French
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He mentions that Cloe has a daughter but then never says anything more about her. I suspect that both daughters have been overlooked by htis narcissistic douchebag.

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ConstantlyJon
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeesh. ESH, but I blame the daughter the least in this situation. OP very clearly rushed into dating with zero consideration for how it would impact his daughter. If she immediately started rebelling, that was the giant blaring red flag that she's not healing like he was and needed her attention and care and love more than him to date another woman. Also, very clearly, "Chloe" is not stepmom material. She wasn't the one missing red flags, dad was. The idea that he's grounding her like this will have a much more lasting impact on her than anything. She needs to learn her lesson, not be punished. She deserves consequences to her actions, not a "sentence." The edit to clarify that Chloe wasn't the only good part of OPs life is insane because he said the quiet part out loud. He thinks he's punishing her, but there will be consequences to his actions as well, and they'll leave him old and alone.

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arthbach
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are so many stories of teenage children sabotaging their parents relationships (for lots of different reasons). My opinion might well be controversial - don't get married, or live together, until the children are grown, or they actually want you to get married.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What she did was awful, and not justified, although how do you propose without discussing with your daughter? But the thing is, you have to look at what relationship you want with your daughter going forward. Don't just punish to be vindictive, compromise where it makes sense. If you keep her from having a life for two years, (for 10% of her life at that point) and stay really strict, she's just going to learn to lie and evade you, and your future relationship is doomed. Maybe OP is ok with that,, but something to consider.

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Aelin Wildfire
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2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm probably in the minority here, but IF she really did something so heinous as to destroy someone's wedding dress, then I feel like an extreme punishment is in order (doubt this post is real, but let's pretend, for funsies). And did anyone notice that "she seemed fine in the weeks leading up to the big day"? If Chloe was trying to develop a cordial relationship with Ella, that might be why Ella was assigned to pick up the dress... Of course we need to have sympathy for the horrible time Ella is going through, having lost her mom and watching her dad re-marry, but there's a right way and a wrong way to react, and it seems like she's acted the absolute worst way possible, even for a teen. Just because teens aren't mature doesn't mean they're not still responsible for their actions, and the only thing you do by withholding punishment is teach her that her behavior is acceptable.

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Aelin Wildfire
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3 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do think the dad was selfish and didn't handle the situation nearly as well as he could have, but I think he felt...obligated, almost?....to hold onto his own grief for his daughter's sake, and I don't blame him for moving on if he felt ready to let that go. Ella is 16, not 6. And even under the best of circumstances, she's probably going to feel her emotions much more strongly than an adult would. Do I think sending her off to boarding school would be going too far? Probably. But grounding like this? I think it's fair. He's not punishing her for grieving: he's punishing her for ruining something that was very sentimentally important to someone he loved.

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weatherwitch
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Selfish bastard. This is child abuse. As happened for myself, the wrong parent died first here too. Poor, poor child ❤️

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Grace Matta
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Devastating. I am a 43yr woman, just buried my mom 6 months ago and only just started talking about her without crying. 43yrs, what is this 16yrs girl going through. How deep is her broken heart, then how miserable is the chilli (not salt) her father has poured in to that wound. At 43yrs I wanted to quit everything. That painful, at 16yrs I don't know what I would have done with myself had my mom died. Beauty of life is the reset possibility. As a father you are not supposed to be perfect, but you become like an anchor and a shield for the little people you have birthed. Many have said it, I will say it, focus on your baby. Right now all hope is lost for her. The heart break is beyond words or description. You have to have gone through it to know it. It is a sadness that never goes away. Sits in there like it is a part of you. Then the emptiness you feel for the place where your love for mom was, absolutely horrible. Time to make her needs 100% priority. She's forever yours.

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Rose Thorns
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... And still after everything, Dad is not hearing his daughter. Get her counseling. And lift that punishment, unless you want to join her for those two years . Dad you are just as guilty as she is. You put that woman above her . And you ignored your kids needs , cause you had the woman. Relationships are replaceable. Your daughter is forever. She's 16 just because you want to wait till she's 18. Doesn't mean she's going to stay in your house till she's 18. You've pushed her out. You just don't know it yet. She's going to leave , one day... no notice. and that maybe the last time you see her

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cherry~
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet Chloe understood just as well when he offered to get rid of his daughter. For all we know, he doesn't care about Chloe too...in time she'll be just like his daughter

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Debby Keir
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I started dating again, I told everyone that 'we came as a package' and that the kids would have a veto.

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Laurie Jones
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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish my daughters would give me another chance.... even though I don't deserve one.

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Parriah
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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fake story, but if there’s an iota of truth then you don’t deserve that child and she will hopefully live a happier and healthier life without you when she takes off in two years and never talks to you again. You’re DEFINITELY the type of git to contact her in 25 years when you’re sick and alone and fully expect her to be your caregiver or support you financially as if she owed you. That child endured you, so she won’t ever owe you another second of her life.

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Joanne Hudson
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one handled it well, but mom has been gone two years. And in two more, Ella will be grown and out of the house. Hopefully Chloe will wait but that didn't seem an option. Hopefully someday Elle will realize what she did didn't bring her mom back. And no doubt almost lost her her dad.

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Cathie Gotuzzo
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with all the comments, but I also agree with the punishment the dad did. Children will end up leaving to live their own lives, parents we're supposed to stay together and grow old supporting each other and hopefully without having to become a burden to our kids until they have live enough and maybe come and see us in our old days (but that should be for a short period of time ideally after our children had time to be parents and enjoy their own children), so... I understand the need for companion that the dad has. The only tweak I would do is: to pay for her collage because as a parent is my responsibility to ensure my children are educated and that goes beyond any kind of punishment, but missing on social media is more a blessing in disguise these days, if she has a way to communicate that's enough, I doubt her social skills are going to be affected just for hanging out with friends now. What she did was really a cry for attention that the father neglected, but she was 16 ....

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Cathie Gotuzzo
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not 10! The amount of disrespect was known to get (even if the dad didn't do enough to correct it) you just don't behave like that to anyone, the lady also has feelings, she accepted the engagement because she was also looking forward to start a new life, what she went through was absolutely mean.

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Christine Kugelman
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has daddy even bothered to ask why his daughter did what she did? Seems you all are assuming that it's because she is grieving and her father is an a*s. I am looking at the new Mommy coming into the scene. She was very quick to call off everything due to a gown! As a mother herself, and in this scenario, did she even try to console her, include her in being a part of their relationship? Did she even once talk to her fiance about his treatment to his own daughter or what she maybe going thru? He didn't mention any thing on her actually trying to get to know her. Did he ever ask his daughter how the girlfriend treats her, And really, the kid probably is the one that doesn't need the counseling; he does. He is way too eager to replace all memory of his deceased wife and their family together lives. And new wife, by her reaction to her dress; she sounds more like she was in to take all she could get for herself.

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Sofia
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

have you ever thought of what SHE feels instead of focusing only for yourself?

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I just work here
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This story sounds like b******t, but in the off chance it is true, this dad is an asshat.

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Melissa anderson
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is completely missing the fact that his daughter is still grieving for her mother. He started dating only 6 months after her mothers death. He may have gotten over it by then but his daughter hasn’t. And he’s totally ignoring that fact.

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Carole G.
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Six months, really? That was your daughter's mom. Your daughter is lost, distraught, heartbroken & you parade "the only good thing in your life" around like a grand prize. You watched your wife die & your an adult! Your daughter watched her mom die & she's a kid. Send he to boarding school wow, just wow. You need to grow-up & think about her. Your priorities are way out of line. YTA.

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Yeah
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can always tell a fake story because they give way too much detail. They explain away every small thing. I am so very tired of BP giving c**p like this space.

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Lee
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

JFC what an a*****e. So he told his teenage grieving daughter that she took the one good thing he had back in his life away from him. F*****g wow. She's grieving her mum passing and that is lightning fast to expect her to play happy families with the 'one good thing' he had in his life. Daughter is going to go no contact and it sounds like he deserves it.

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Sweet Fanny Adams
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shame about the wife to be left. I agree counselling for both father and daughter. Communication is very important. I hope they can both sort things out. Dog bless them

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Ael
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's assume this was real (reddit consensus seems to be it isn't). Do people find it remotely normal for a teenager to ruin a bridal dress? We're not talking about a 4 year old that found the crayons. What WOULD these people accept as the daughter going too far? Her murdering the woman? She is 16. AND she broke off therapy. At what point in her life is she going to take responsibility for her own grief and no longer unloads it on other people? She doesn't like Daddy dating? Then have a go at Daddy. Finding love is not as easy in one's 40s, that man might never again find a partner, but hey, daughter doesn't like sharing him. The daughter is a psychopathic egoist. Just imagine if they had married and the wife had gotten a dog...

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Scott Rackley
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chloe was the only one in the right here. She dodged a huge bullet.

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Sahil Islam
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both father and daughter are at fault here. Neither communicated with one another. Daughter def deserves the punishment set by her father but he needed to let her grieve and slowly accept Chloe. He moved WAAAY too fast for his daughter's pace.

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Justin Smith
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are missing one big fact. The daughter is a child. 13 or 14 when her mother died and 15 when this all happened. She wouldnt be able to communicate like an adult, especially considering her father leting his new partner shoe horn herself into the mothers place when the daughter didn't want her there.

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Laura Smith
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What the daughter did is absolutely unacceptable. A lot of people in the comment section keeps saying how the daughter needs counseling but it's clearly outlined in the article that she was going to counseling but she quit and she is refusing to go back. I feel for the dad he had every right to move on and find a new love and the daughter deliberately ruined it. But at the same time you have to put your daughter first she lost her mother. This is a tough one all around.. I also have to say if I was Chloe I would have ended the relationship also

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Hannah Taylor
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Both the father and the daughter are/were being extremely vindictive, and nothing good can come of it. OP should offer a compromise: if his daughter agrees to going back to counseling (individual and with her dad) for six months, and apologize to Chloe for ruining her wedding dress, he'll ease up on the punishment. But ONLY if she agrees to the aforementioned conditions. Also, if any of his deceased wife's belongings are still available, his daughter should be allowed to take at least one item as a keepsake. It would mean the world to her, and show her that OP isn't trying to erase her mother's memory. It's not easy to lose a parent at ANY age, OP needs to fully understand that.

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F**k that kid. Best thing for her shame you cant do it for longer. Bad human beings do that kinda thing

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Anna V
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids, younger and older, do things for a reason, most of the time they cannot express their feelings properly. That girl lost her mother, possibly the only adult in her life that would understand her, because the father seems too self centered. The father should prioritize his daughter's mental health over a new relationship, that's what good parents do. Any mature person is aware that having kids means that you have to make some sacrifices, if you're not ready for that, don't have kids.

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Kathy O'Sherry
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this one is way above my pay grade and they both need serious counseling.

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Sunny Day
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Consensus on Reddit seems to be that this is fake, and "Chloe" wrote "her side" about 6 months ago, where Ella came to her house daily after school, and one day went into her closet & hacked up the wedding dress with scissors.

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Mad Dragon
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The part that got to me the most was when he offered to ship his grieving daughter off to boarding school so he could keep the new wife. The daughter is going to walk out the door the day she turns 18 and never look back.

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Anne Reid
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That, and when he said he’d accepted his wife’s death when she was still alive. I highly doubt the daughter did. Poor girl probably still held out hope that Mom would get a miracle. 6 months later, Dad has a replacement wife. Daughter was acting out, because it was way too soon for her. Poor kid was screaming for help, but dear old dad cared more about moving on. She’s going to go NC. As someone who lost her mother young, I’d have never forgiven my Pop if he’d done that.

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Tristan J
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Terrible dad wonders why daughter is acting out when he clearly resents her in general and has made no effort to give her the love or support she needs to feel secure, whilst having to deal with her dad already prioritising a new partner over her to the extent that he would have shipped her off to boarding school. Emancipation would be closer than reconciliation.

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similarly
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I stopped at "boarding school". You're going to send your daughter to boarding school? What the daughter did was wrong, but she's asking for something. She needs therapy, not boarding school. She needs to feel listened to, needs to feel that her grief over the loss of her mother is respected. She's grieving and people get a little difficult when they're grieving. Sending them away? No.

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Jen
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6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At this point boarding school would be better for her thsn being stuck at home with her father. There is a boarding school a block from my church and a lot of the faculty and staff are members (and we get a few students coming over every week as well). They make social life a big part of campus life for the kids - lots of trip options, game rooms in all the dorms and social activities planned to help students make and keep friends and date safely. OP's daughter would have a much more fun and welcoming end of HS there vs with his punishments at home.

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Kare Deter
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He only want advice given "with empathy and understanding" when he has neither of those for his daughter - he literally treats her as baggage that can easily be disposed of then wonders why she acts out. *IF* this story is true I hope there is any other adult in this child's life for her to look to for emotional support since her dad is a first class loser and failure as a parent.

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Two_rolling_black_eyes
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another AITA post where is its obviously one sided. 9% in the poll agreed with the dad. Please BP, if you are going to choose these stories, find ones where there is some room for genuine discussion and nuance instead of people just preaching to the choir.

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MR
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This guy sounds terrible. Everything is "me me me me me" with him. He decided to move on with no regard for where his daughter was at. He then pressed this new woman on his daughter when she clearly wasn't ready for it and then got on her when she wasn't accepting of it. All the while this new woman seemed controlling, expected to be put first, further exacerbating the situation. And his response to trying to keep this woman in his life is to toss his daughter aside. He was clearly putting his daughter last in that relationship. She will go 100% NC once she turns 18.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can’t punish a child out of their pain and grief and op is foolish to think that he can. I suspect the therapy would have been more successful if it wasn’t targeted toward making op happy by forgetting her mother and embracing her shiny new replacement.

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anne chan
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The wife might be replaceable, but a mother isn't. After the OP lost his wife he only thought about his own grieving process, not that of his daughter. It's allready difficult for many kids to accept the new partner of their parent, but than he only seems to care about his new wife, ignoring his daughter, makes it even worse. He should be there for his daughter, not his new wife.

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Ross “Sarcastic Dad”
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can forgive a lot, but when he offered to send his daughter away to keep the fiancé, it shows you where his head space was at. What an a*****e. I wouldn't send my daughters away for any person on this earth, including my wife. And she would say the same.

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ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I say (without sarcasm) that you’re showing what a father should be. This guy is just…reprehensibly awful as a “father.”

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Julia French
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He mentions that Cloe has a daughter but then never says anything more about her. I suspect that both daughters have been overlooked by htis narcissistic douchebag.

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ConstantlyJon
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeesh. ESH, but I blame the daughter the least in this situation. OP very clearly rushed into dating with zero consideration for how it would impact his daughter. If she immediately started rebelling, that was the giant blaring red flag that she's not healing like he was and needed her attention and care and love more than him to date another woman. Also, very clearly, "Chloe" is not stepmom material. She wasn't the one missing red flags, dad was. The idea that he's grounding her like this will have a much more lasting impact on her than anything. She needs to learn her lesson, not be punished. She deserves consequences to her actions, not a "sentence." The edit to clarify that Chloe wasn't the only good part of OPs life is insane because he said the quiet part out loud. He thinks he's punishing her, but there will be consequences to his actions as well, and they'll leave him old and alone.

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arthbach
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are so many stories of teenage children sabotaging their parents relationships (for lots of different reasons). My opinion might well be controversial - don't get married, or live together, until the children are grown, or they actually want you to get married.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What she did was awful, and not justified, although how do you propose without discussing with your daughter? But the thing is, you have to look at what relationship you want with your daughter going forward. Don't just punish to be vindictive, compromise where it makes sense. If you keep her from having a life for two years, (for 10% of her life at that point) and stay really strict, she's just going to learn to lie and evade you, and your future relationship is doomed. Maybe OP is ok with that,, but something to consider.

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Aelin Wildfire
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2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm probably in the minority here, but IF she really did something so heinous as to destroy someone's wedding dress, then I feel like an extreme punishment is in order (doubt this post is real, but let's pretend, for funsies). And did anyone notice that "she seemed fine in the weeks leading up to the big day"? If Chloe was trying to develop a cordial relationship with Ella, that might be why Ella was assigned to pick up the dress... Of course we need to have sympathy for the horrible time Ella is going through, having lost her mom and watching her dad re-marry, but there's a right way and a wrong way to react, and it seems like she's acted the absolute worst way possible, even for a teen. Just because teens aren't mature doesn't mean they're not still responsible for their actions, and the only thing you do by withholding punishment is teach her that her behavior is acceptable.

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Aelin Wildfire
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3 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do think the dad was selfish and didn't handle the situation nearly as well as he could have, but I think he felt...obligated, almost?....to hold onto his own grief for his daughter's sake, and I don't blame him for moving on if he felt ready to let that go. Ella is 16, not 6. And even under the best of circumstances, she's probably going to feel her emotions much more strongly than an adult would. Do I think sending her off to boarding school would be going too far? Probably. But grounding like this? I think it's fair. He's not punishing her for grieving: he's punishing her for ruining something that was very sentimentally important to someone he loved.

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weatherwitch
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Selfish bastard. This is child abuse. As happened for myself, the wrong parent died first here too. Poor, poor child ❤️

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Grace Matta
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Devastating. I am a 43yr woman, just buried my mom 6 months ago and only just started talking about her without crying. 43yrs, what is this 16yrs girl going through. How deep is her broken heart, then how miserable is the chilli (not salt) her father has poured in to that wound. At 43yrs I wanted to quit everything. That painful, at 16yrs I don't know what I would have done with myself had my mom died. Beauty of life is the reset possibility. As a father you are not supposed to be perfect, but you become like an anchor and a shield for the little people you have birthed. Many have said it, I will say it, focus on your baby. Right now all hope is lost for her. The heart break is beyond words or description. You have to have gone through it to know it. It is a sadness that never goes away. Sits in there like it is a part of you. Then the emptiness you feel for the place where your love for mom was, absolutely horrible. Time to make her needs 100% priority. She's forever yours.

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Rose Thorns
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1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... And still after everything, Dad is not hearing his daughter. Get her counseling. And lift that punishment, unless you want to join her for those two years . Dad you are just as guilty as she is. You put that woman above her . And you ignored your kids needs , cause you had the woman. Relationships are replaceable. Your daughter is forever. She's 16 just because you want to wait till she's 18. Doesn't mean she's going to stay in your house till she's 18. You've pushed her out. You just don't know it yet. She's going to leave , one day... no notice. and that maybe the last time you see her

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cherry~
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I bet Chloe understood just as well when he offered to get rid of his daughter. For all we know, he doesn't care about Chloe too...in time she'll be just like his daughter

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Debby Keir
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I started dating again, I told everyone that 'we came as a package' and that the kids would have a veto.

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Laurie Jones
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13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wish my daughters would give me another chance.... even though I don't deserve one.

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Parriah
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23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fake story, but if there’s an iota of truth then you don’t deserve that child and she will hopefully live a happier and healthier life without you when she takes off in two years and never talks to you again. You’re DEFINITELY the type of git to contact her in 25 years when you’re sick and alone and fully expect her to be your caregiver or support you financially as if she owed you. That child endured you, so she won’t ever owe you another second of her life.

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Joanne Hudson
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one handled it well, but mom has been gone two years. And in two more, Ella will be grown and out of the house. Hopefully Chloe will wait but that didn't seem an option. Hopefully someday Elle will realize what she did didn't bring her mom back. And no doubt almost lost her her dad.

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Cathie Gotuzzo
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with all the comments, but I also agree with the punishment the dad did. Children will end up leaving to live their own lives, parents we're supposed to stay together and grow old supporting each other and hopefully without having to become a burden to our kids until they have live enough and maybe come and see us in our old days (but that should be for a short period of time ideally after our children had time to be parents and enjoy their own children), so... I understand the need for companion that the dad has. The only tweak I would do is: to pay for her collage because as a parent is my responsibility to ensure my children are educated and that goes beyond any kind of punishment, but missing on social media is more a blessing in disguise these days, if she has a way to communicate that's enough, I doubt her social skills are going to be affected just for hanging out with friends now. What she did was really a cry for attention that the father neglected, but she was 16 ....

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Cathie Gotuzzo
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not 10! The amount of disrespect was known to get (even if the dad didn't do enough to correct it) you just don't behave like that to anyone, the lady also has feelings, she accepted the engagement because she was also looking forward to start a new life, what she went through was absolutely mean.

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Christine Kugelman
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has daddy even bothered to ask why his daughter did what she did? Seems you all are assuming that it's because she is grieving and her father is an a*s. I am looking at the new Mommy coming into the scene. She was very quick to call off everything due to a gown! As a mother herself, and in this scenario, did she even try to console her, include her in being a part of their relationship? Did she even once talk to her fiance about his treatment to his own daughter or what she maybe going thru? He didn't mention any thing on her actually trying to get to know her. Did he ever ask his daughter how the girlfriend treats her, And really, the kid probably is the one that doesn't need the counseling; he does. He is way too eager to replace all memory of his deceased wife and their family together lives. And new wife, by her reaction to her dress; she sounds more like she was in to take all she could get for herself.

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Sofia
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

have you ever thought of what SHE feels instead of focusing only for yourself?

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I just work here
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This story sounds like b******t, but in the off chance it is true, this dad is an asshat.

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Melissa anderson
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He is completely missing the fact that his daughter is still grieving for her mother. He started dating only 6 months after her mothers death. He may have gotten over it by then but his daughter hasn’t. And he’s totally ignoring that fact.

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Carole G.
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Six months, really? That was your daughter's mom. Your daughter is lost, distraught, heartbroken & you parade "the only good thing in your life" around like a grand prize. You watched your wife die & your an adult! Your daughter watched her mom die & she's a kid. Send he to boarding school wow, just wow. You need to grow-up & think about her. Your priorities are way out of line. YTA.

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Yeah
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can always tell a fake story because they give way too much detail. They explain away every small thing. I am so very tired of BP giving c**p like this space.

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Lee
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

JFC what an a*****e. So he told his teenage grieving daughter that she took the one good thing he had back in his life away from him. F*****g wow. She's grieving her mum passing and that is lightning fast to expect her to play happy families with the 'one good thing' he had in his life. Daughter is going to go no contact and it sounds like he deserves it.

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Sweet Fanny Adams
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shame about the wife to be left. I agree counselling for both father and daughter. Communication is very important. I hope they can both sort things out. Dog bless them

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Ael
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's assume this was real (reddit consensus seems to be it isn't). Do people find it remotely normal for a teenager to ruin a bridal dress? We're not talking about a 4 year old that found the crayons. What WOULD these people accept as the daughter going too far? Her murdering the woman? She is 16. AND she broke off therapy. At what point in her life is she going to take responsibility for her own grief and no longer unloads it on other people? She doesn't like Daddy dating? Then have a go at Daddy. Finding love is not as easy in one's 40s, that man might never again find a partner, but hey, daughter doesn't like sharing him. The daughter is a psychopathic egoist. Just imagine if they had married and the wife had gotten a dog...

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Scott Rackley
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chloe was the only one in the right here. She dodged a huge bullet.

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Sahil Islam
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both father and daughter are at fault here. Neither communicated with one another. Daughter def deserves the punishment set by her father but he needed to let her grieve and slowly accept Chloe. He moved WAAAY too fast for his daughter's pace.

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Justin Smith
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are missing one big fact. The daughter is a child. 13 or 14 when her mother died and 15 when this all happened. She wouldnt be able to communicate like an adult, especially considering her father leting his new partner shoe horn herself into the mothers place when the daughter didn't want her there.

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Laura Smith
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What the daughter did is absolutely unacceptable. A lot of people in the comment section keeps saying how the daughter needs counseling but it's clearly outlined in the article that she was going to counseling but she quit and she is refusing to go back. I feel for the dad he had every right to move on and find a new love and the daughter deliberately ruined it. But at the same time you have to put your daughter first she lost her mother. This is a tough one all around.. I also have to say if I was Chloe I would have ended the relationship also

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Hannah Taylor
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Both the father and the daughter are/were being extremely vindictive, and nothing good can come of it. OP should offer a compromise: if his daughter agrees to going back to counseling (individual and with her dad) for six months, and apologize to Chloe for ruining her wedding dress, he'll ease up on the punishment. But ONLY if she agrees to the aforementioned conditions. Also, if any of his deceased wife's belongings are still available, his daughter should be allowed to take at least one item as a keepsake. It would mean the world to her, and show her that OP isn't trying to erase her mother's memory. It's not easy to lose a parent at ANY age, OP needs to fully understand that.

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F**k that kid. Best thing for her shame you cant do it for longer. Bad human beings do that kinda thing

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Anna V
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kids, younger and older, do things for a reason, most of the time they cannot express their feelings properly. That girl lost her mother, possibly the only adult in her life that would understand her, because the father seems too self centered. The father should prioritize his daughter's mental health over a new relationship, that's what good parents do. Any mature person is aware that having kids means that you have to make some sacrifices, if you're not ready for that, don't have kids.

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