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What does it mean to be a "real" man? Well, masculinity is one of those topics everyone has an opinion on, as gender norms remain a delicate subject that tends to spark heated debates online. And even though public attitudes are becoming more accepting in many ways, stereotypical patterns of masculine behavior are still deeply rooted in our society — according to the age-old cliché of the masculine guy, men are expected to be strong, brave, and dominant.

But in reality, when people are telling everyone that a macho man doesn't cry, takes risks, makes money, fears nothing, and — heaven forbid! — never shows any signs of emotional vulnerability, it can spark some pretty warped ideas about manhood.

Thanks to one illuminating corner of Twitter called 'Hot Masculinity Takes,' we get to see a galore of absurd cases when this happens online. "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," says the account’s description, and you already know it’s gonna be a wild ride. So continue scrolling to check out the absolutely ridiculous opinions about men on the Internet, and don’t miss the chat we had about masculinity with licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jesse Matthews right below.

Psst! After you’re done with this list, more madness awaits in Part 1 of this feature right here.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna punch the idiot who wrote this put down. And I’m an oh-so-estrogenic woman. My crushing lack of testosterone must be making me so irrational to say something like this. Isn’t it?🙄😤😡 Who is this misogynistic weirdo, to think he can be rude to the ladies and gentlemen like that? Bet he’s an insecure neckbeard.

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It’s hard to avoid encountering the term toxic masculinity these days. But as the person behind the account, who preferred to stay anonymous, told my colleague Rokas in a previous interview, this social media project is not purely about that. The philosophy of the page is to post the takes and let people make their own conclusions. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too," the creator added.

A brief scroll through the list proves that harmful stereotypes about what it means to be a man are abundant in today’s society. But what exactly urges people to share their absurd statements without any second thought? And how can these ideas affect men seeking out their masculine identity?

To gain more insight on the topic from an expert, we reached out to Dr. Jesse Matthews, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist based in Chester Springs, PA. According to him, ideas about masculinity have become quite polarized in our society.

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"As masculinity has moved away from the 'manly man' or 'tough guy' definitions, many people have not only clung to these stereotypes, but they have made them more extreme," Dr. Matthews told Bored Panda. This usually stems from people rejecting the changing views, and "social media in particular creates echo chambers for this, with various influencers carrying the flags for those who identify with their views."

While we all bear different perspectives on the world around us, masculinity especially can be a very deep rabbit hole with a variety of different viewpoints. But Dr. Matthews raised an important question: why do these ideas matter so much to people?

"Obviously, it’s part of life for any guy or anyone who identifies with masculinity, but the obsession with being a 'real man' is more based in insecurity. The person essentially needs to ensure that they present a masculine enough identity to avoid judgment or being called out as not masculine by other guys," the psychologist explained.

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Men who are insecure about their manliness exhibit behavior that is often exaggerated and even caricature-like. But Dr. Matthews says there’s also irony at play here. "Many of these individuals would tell you that being a real man means just doing your thing and not caring about what anyone thinks about it. However, one can’t simultaneously obsess over portraying an ultramasculine image, yet claim to be unconcerned about judgment. It just doesn’t compute."

Hypermasculinity — or toxic masculinity as it’s usually called — is also based on the false belief that masculinity needs to be saved, Dr. Matthews argued. "In the same way that some people seem to be afraid that racism or homophobia might one day die out. So they embrace stereotypes, or how they think things 'should' be or were in 'the good old days.'"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so a man drinking a fruity drink sounds like a great way to filter out super shallow people. Drink up men, the fruity drinks are the best.

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But putting men (half of the world’s population!) in a box can seriously harm their well-being. "It’s limiting at best, and at worst it leads people to play into these stereotypes." For example, hypermasculinity often makes people act in ways "that are sexist or homophobic, or at least not challenging others on this kind of behavior."

"It also has the power to create toxic environments, uncomfortable for women or men viewed as not masculine, and of course to lead to situations involving sexual assault," Dr. Matthews continued. "As well, if these men carry on these thoughts and behaviors through adulthood, they may pass them down to their children or other young people they come into contact with, like kids they are teaching, coaching, and so on."

According to the American Psychological Association (APA), instilling elements of traditional masculinity into men and boys can be psychologically harmful, as it has been shown to limit their development, constrain their behavior, and result in gender role conflict. What’s more, it can negatively influence their mental and physical health.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This screams red flag all over. Anyone under that height is usually underage (with the exception of naturally petite women).

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And men wonder why we women have a tendency to come off as cold, closed-off, and wary with men we dont know. Obviously, even the men we DO think we know can be a danger to us.

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For men who try to seek out their identity and find a healthy relationship with their inner guy, these societal pressures and expectations can be especially burdensome. "It can be hard for people to stand out or to be seen as going against those around them. For example, a male raised in a family or in a community with traditional masculine stereotypes may find it hard to explore or adopt a less stereotyped identity," Dr. Matthews said, adding the person is likely to be criticized, punished, or excluded for it.

Unfortunately, most people who are raised in stereotyped environments tend to internalize those behavior patterns. Psychologist Matthews explained this happens because they don’t know anything else and it feels right to them, or they feel pressure to fit in.

"This can mean demonstrating extreme or toxic masculinity, as not only could one fit in that way, but he could be praised or more highly valued in the group for it." And, alarmingly, "in places like prisons where this applies, it could actually help you to survive."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only the most insecure men use words like alpha and beta males. Do they not realize how it makes them sound?

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it makes them sound like the people who read fanfictions about gay men who get each other pregnant. it's called omegaverse & it's disturbingly perverse, but really funny that it shares the same alpha/beta/omega system for men that the "alpha male chads" use!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hooters is still in business? I thought that was over in the 90s? Grown men with any class don't go to places that objectify people.

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Thegoodboi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They do have good wings I will say. Any guy going to Hooters thinking they're going to get laid is a "beta" due to their stupidity. I just want their food!

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I perve on barely dressed waitresses young enough to be my daughter - like a REAL man!"

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Sue From Michigan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This tweet is recent and this guy is a right wing troll who posts stupid takes all day. A woman who works at Hooters answered him and said guys who sit in Hooters and act foolish like him are laughed at after they leave.

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Mr.Kris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Coffee shops = woman to meet; Hooters = other dudes... One seems much 'gayer' if you ask me.

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yoshi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how does he know what a dirty chai soy latte is.... hmmm....... the chai isn't the only dirty thing here mister...

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Sonja
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reale males go wherever they want and eat whatever they want and wear whatever they want just like real women do. Real adults only care if it's legal. Only insecure children who never grew up get all angtsy about what the cool folks might think

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They might bypass Hooters though as objectifying women isn't cool.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I'd say that Nick Adams is a bit of an arsehole who's not really got over the fact that most men loathe hockey and don't like demeaning women - oh, and I reckon his emotional development stopped at 13.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All of these posts...the same guy keeps popping in my head...he is a complete utter controlling a*****e..the one who flirts with waitresses, thinks hes better than others, loves hooters and strip clubs.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew in commando training said they screamed, out early on ‘who here considers themselves an alpha male?’ Apparently its an easy way for them to filter out the idiots who will definitely be dropping out.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pandas! You really ought to follow Nick on Twitter, he is absolutely priceless! He is a failed Australian. He is no longer "alpha" enough to live in Aussie. He used to be a liberal but now is a sworn a**licker of Trump's. His posts are awesome and endlessly hilarious.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be clear, I’m certain when folks use these words what they’re actually saying is: Beta=secure/self-aware; Alpha=toxic/confused/panicked/scared

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never heard other men refer to themselves or others as Alpha or Beta. 46 times around the sun, this guy has never heard those used irl.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that going to Hooters for beers on your lunch break might be a bad idea... Are you trying to impress a new client? SadChad, always a bad idea

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I'm around t!ts! That makes me straight!" Sir, it makes you a baby.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How to say you're a sexist @$$hole without saying you're a sexist @$$hole

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beta males throw around words like alpha and beta and put others down to make themselves feel tough to mask their own insecurities.

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“As a former Hooters girl I can assure you only betas who liked to think they were 'alpha males' ate there,” Devanny Pinn

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Diana G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

hello this is the call regarding you getting dropped on your head as a baby...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think we can see the toxic masculinity in the username

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lots of recovering alcoholics met up at coffee shops. Does this mean they are no longer men?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yea. While you "ahpla's" watch hockey, the girls are all secretly laughing at you.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So we're all part of the fake study that there are alpha males in wolve packs?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Any woman that hears a man say "Beta" or "Alpha" in relation to that man's behavior only hears a Neanderthal grunting, so she stops listening and continues her search for intelligent life elsewhere.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So-called alpha men aren't going to Hooters for beer and hockey, they're there to justify their "alpha-ness."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because the only women you can actually see in their upper birthday suits are paid for it? Just sayin'

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DEW
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you sit in your room a lot alone drinking your Chai soy latte.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are they TRYING to make "beta males" look more attractive? Because it's working.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The alpha/beta male thing never existed, I don't like coffee, American beer, or hockey, and I've got enough self respect to not be a simpering follower, especially of a lowlife like Nick Adams there.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For whatever reason my brain chose to read "alpaca males" and it was a huge improvement

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have only heard of this man because of this tweet. I think it's done its job.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its funny how every man who is secure with his masculitity doesnt give a damn flying f**k about this kinda stuff.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nick Adams is the trolls troll of Twitter. Just an all around horrible person.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So Alpha is the first version of a software program, right? The version that needs all the bugs and issues fixed? Just checking..

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alpha male derives from alpha radiation, right? The one with low penetration power?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, Nick, you go to Hooters and watch grown men with random teeth fight with their sticks and not the beautiful women serving you? What a man!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dang. Now I really want some hot chai, but am too lazy to go get it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you're not Chuck Norris, stop calling yourself Alpha Male. There can be only one, and it's Chuck.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these men on this thread are fragile little snowflakes. So weak.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nick Adams is one of the most divisive, @hit stirring lying MF's who loves to lick trump's pelotas.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

whats hooters and what beta, (im 13, i have no idea what these things are)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And Gamma Males don't give a flying fck about stereotypes and are laughing at you, not with you. Please 🙄

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know...Hockey seems pretty beta to me. edit: sarcasm, of course.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not American, so I have only heard about Hooters. But I don't associate that place with hockey-Watching at all ;-)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Think he's confused alpha and gender conforming.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How old is this guy? There is no such thing as alpha or beta males... humans have never worked that way.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like Canada. (This is a joke, don’t take this seriously. I don’t want to get suspended)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, what I hear you saying is, intelligent men drink coffee and macho clowns drink beer at Hooters.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go to hipster coffee shops to get drinks for the people I like? Better chance of finding quality over quantity and no doubt only way people like this get anywhere is by intoxicated/ impaired judgment/thinking

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So your the coffee shop kind of guy then, because you sure don't look Alpha.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure what kind of man I am. I go to bars and order chardonnay, but I drink it straight from the bottle.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think a REAL alpha male would be there to watch bewbs, but you do you.

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Extreme views like the painfully ridiculous ones featured on 'Hot Masculinity Takes' are rarely a positive thing. But as the modern world now teaches us, the subject matter is much less black-and-white.

"Masculinity is not simply the opposite of femininity, just as it is not synonymous with heterosexuality," Dr. Matthews noted. "Many people today see being masculine as being calm and controlled vs angry and reactive, being a good problem solver rather than one who relies on brute force to solve everything, or standing up for other people or what’s right vs trying to control or overpower others."

What people see as healthy masculinity may differ, but generally, we can all foster it by not judging other people. "This means not being worried about what other men are doing and giving people the space to be themselves," Dr. Matthews added. "We can all do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. Masculinity isn’t going anywhere, so people don’t need to try to be the protectors of it or to act in stereotyped ways to let people know they exist."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mmm, yes, let's never stop living with perpetual brutality, chaos, and death.

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High blood pressure, obesity, high blood sugar, malnutrition, but I can't think of any real reasons.

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Many men in Dr. Matthews’s practice have never gone to therapy before, and some wouldn't even be expected to be found in a psychologist’s office at first glance. But they are sure glad they did. "This idea of what it really means to be a man and the positive and negative ways in which they have lived this is a frequent topic of conversation."

"I would encourage anyone concerned with issues of identity, including ideas about masculinity, to start reflecting on it in some kind of organized way. Don’t just watch videos by your favorite IG or Tik Tok influencers, but start journaling, reading books, or going and seeing a therapist. It really can change your life," Dr. Matthews concluded.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Picturing this guy putting together flat-pack furniture without instructions ('cause those are for girls) and when his shelf turns into a table, he just throws it through the wall. Because bro

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BREAKING NEWS: WORK COLLEAGUES OFTEN ENGAGE AS FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. MORE ON THIS AT 11.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Say you're insecure about your masculinity without saying you're insecure about your masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James Butler is a septic tank guy on TikTok and YouTube who has a 'manly' job, but also decent general advice about being a boss of a company. It's not all dancing and "challenges" on TikTok.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else think that the whole alpha, beta, sigma whatever is just dude bro astrology?

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