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Guy Makes Mom Cry After Not Letting Her Bring Her 3 Kids To A Childfree Christmas Party
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Guy Makes Mom Cry After Not Letting Her Bring Her 3 Kids To A Childfree Christmas Party

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We’re approaching the holiday season, pandas, so you know what that means! Lights shining everywhere you go, cozy evenings at home with hot cocoa, music that will get you into the holiday spirit and, of course, all of the stress that comes with planning holiday gatherings. 

Below, you’ll find a story that was recently shared on Reddit, detailing how one man’s office Christmas party has become complicated by a mother who insists that her children should be allowed to join in on the festivities.

Planning holiday celebrations often becomes stressful

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So when this man’s colleague started making demands for the party he offered to host, he had no patience to entertain her requests

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“The situation is not changing, no one has gotten back to me about if there is another venue or house”

We reached out to the man who shared this story, Reddit user LegElectrical9214, and he was kind enough to provide additional details on the party drama. “The situation is not changing, no one has gotten back to me about if there is another venue or house,” the OP shared. He also noted that they live in a small town, so there aren’t many venues up for grabs at the moment.

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As far as whether or not kids are typically included in the holiday party, LegElectrical9214 says he’s not sure, as he joined the company last year but was unable to attend the last holiday party.

We were also curious if the colleague who’s been giving him grief about this party often causes conflicts. “[She] has made many different requests during the time she has been with the company way before I joined, and she likes to comment on anything coming her way,” the OP noted. “One time, she told the boss that her bio clock is ticking and that she (the boss) would regret not having a kid.”

LegElectrical9214 also wanted to make it clear that it’s not his boss’ fault that they’re having issues arranging this party. “[She] is a successful woman, but she also is the main caretaker for her mom, who has dementia. So, it is not the boss that did not step up, it is just we simply cannot hold the party at her place and disturb the poor old lady!”

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While most people associate the holiday season with spending quality time with family and friends and spending less time at work, there’s nothing wrong with celebrating with colleagues as well. If you consider some of your coworkers to be your friends, or you simply need something to look forward to while sitting at your desk during the month of December, an office party can be a great way to build morale.

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In fact, a poll from BMG Research found that employees who enjoyed their company’s Christmas party were 96% less likely to resign the following year, and 78% of workers would rather attend a great holiday party than receive a small financial bonus at the end of the year.

Employsure reports that bonding through parties in the workplace builds team culture, allows bosses to recognize their employees’ performance, provides an opportunity for social networking and can make workers feel cared for and supported. But of course, the party will only be a success if employees actually enjoy it.

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When it comes to throwing a memorable holiday party, TeamBonding recommends that those in charge seek input from staff and start planning early. The most important logistics to consider are who, what, where and when, but don’t forget to be flexible. If the itinerary is too strict or employees feel like they’re being forced to participate in any activities, they’ll feel like they’re still working.

Some ideas that TeamBonding says tend to go over well with employees are charity drives, potlucks, happy hour with a mixologist teaching employees how to make alcoholic and non-alcoholic cocktails, game nights, hands-on activities such as building gingerbread houses and adventures such as escape rooms or viewing a light show. 

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As far as whether or not children should be included in the festivities, it’s understandable that employees might have differing opinions. If you’re a parent of three, the idea of booking and paying for a babysitter might seem stressful. But if you’re childfree and don’t want to have to watch your language or babyproof your house, kiddos at the party might become a burden. Plus, how much fun will moms and dads actually get to have with their colleagues if they’re constantly keeping an eye on little Timmy to ensure he doesn’t hurt himself or fall in the pool?

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According to Fast Company, it’s actually quite common for parents to get special treatment in the workplace, while childfree employees are often overlooked. Despite the fact that 71% of adults in the US live without kids under their roof, a study conducted by Dr. Leslie Ashburn-Nardo found that “participants reported significantly greater feelings of moral outrage―including anger, disgust, and disapproval―toward voluntarily childfree people.” 

These adults without kids were also seen as “less personally fulfilled” than parents. Meanwhile, childfree employees report often feeling taken advantage of, as extra responsibilities often get dumped on them because they don’t have to rush out of work to pick up their kids or prepare dinner for their family.

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While there’s no question that being a parent is difficult, is it really the responsibility of everyone else to accommodate moms, dads and their kiddos all the time? We would love to hear your thoughts on this story in the comments below, pandas. Then, if you’re interested in reading another Bored Panda article discussing a similar issue, look no further than right here

Readers assured the man that he was right to put his foot down, and some shared suggestions for how to handle the situation

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Tamra
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do some people attain this level of audacity?? To explicitly ignore the "no children" in the invitation, and take it FURTHER and tell the host to remove their cats for the event, baby-proof his own home, and have everyone babysit...?! WTF?!

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Sonja
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They get there by being supported by people who help them by putting pressure on completely innocent parties to 'keep the peace' instead of telling them off.

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My first reaction? "F#ck NO" My second reaction: same, and with the addition of "C'mon, there's a pool. Really?? You expect your co-workers to play lifeguard??"

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Ample Aardvark
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and I'd be looking for a new job, as nutcase mum will make their life a misery!

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Tyke
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she's back from maternity leave there must be some kind of childcare in place, so why can't she use it?

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Weasel Wise
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Being a mother is no small job"...first, it's not a job, it's a CHOICE. Second, where's the other parent? Why can't they babysit? Third, fùck the entire office staff, expecting the OP to be a doormat. Since when did it become just a thing to give every female breeder what they want just to keep peace? Maybe the people insisting on thrusting more humans onto this planet should consider that NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING!!! Wearing a condom or just not taking a load (mind blowing, right?) is so much easier for every person on Earth.

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Mike Fitzpatrick
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well said. Don't forget the "boss" in this scenario. "I want to have the company Christmas party, but I'm not paying for a venue so one of YOU have to host it, at YOUR HOME, with YOUR FOOD, but I still want to have a finger in the pie. Screw that! If the" boss" had a backbone from the start OP wouldn't be in the bad-guy role.

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Michael MacKinnon
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG ***There's a swimming pool there*** Where I'm from, you have to have a fence (a separate one) around the pool, because too many toddlers have fallen into pools and drowned. And the colleague want to bring her kids for other people to watch while she enjoys the party? Sorry, that's reckless endangerment on the part of the colleague. There is **no way** to "child proof" a swimming pool in that situation.

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Ivana Bašić
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, if someone is allergic to cats, a house with multiple cats can't be cleaned properly as long as they live there. It can be clean, but not so it wouldn't cause a reaction in someone who is actually allergic. It's just not a safe place for them.

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Bina Wei
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very good point. Add it to the list of the coworker being unreasonable.

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Rocco MZ
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for a small company and we take turns hosting parties. Rules are if the host has kids, bring your kids. If the host doesn't have kids, don't bring yours. Also, we made it clear to not ask the host to change or alter their home for any reason. No one has ever had a problem with this. People with kids can be such f*****g a******s. We allowed kids at our party one time and we made it clear to the parents that the house was not childproof and our dogs would run freely and their kids need to respect our home and not f**k with our dogs. Because they are good parents, they obliged and their kids were great. Still, stand your ground and tell them all to f**k off. This is the same woman who will sue you if something happens to one of her kids at your house.

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Star Anäis
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The entitlement and audacity of this woman. Wrong of your boss and coworkers to even pressure you and call you the AH. What's the update on this? He needs to find another place of employment!

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Ima Manimal
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. With all the ruckus about it, I’d just have to say, “sorry yall but I can no longer host this party.”

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Marno C.
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How did this woman arrive at 3 children with no other adult in her life able to do child care for a couple of hours? How does she go to work? Does she leave the kids chained up to a rack outside like bicycles? This whole party situation is a her problem, not an OP problem. (And the boss better not take for granted having employees willing to host a party. Sounds like he's going to have a more expensive route now of hiring a venue. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, boss.)

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Barrygirl1943
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - It is time to send an email that while you were looking forward to hosting, your home is not a safe place to host the party desired by the staff. Alternative arrangements need to be made. Perhaps Mom can host it because she should already have a childproof, cat free environment. Seriously, if you give in, you are asking for trouble - something will go wrong and you will be held accountable

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AspieGirl88
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry, but F*CK THAT! It’s THEIR bloody house! The boss & colleagues already agreed to the terms; & if those terms are broken, they are NOT obligated to host ANY party! This is borderline, if not full-on workplace harassment at this point & I’d probably consider seeking legal advice, in case they try wrongful dismissal over this. 🤨🤷‍♀️

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW. Talk about entitled! What is it with people who assume THEIR children are the exception? "Child free" means NO CHILDREN. So get a babysitter (where's their Father?) or don't come. We had the same problem at our childfree wedding. Went childfree because of one friend in particular. Her 3 boys (all under 10) were feral f*cking monkeys and she was an awful parent. Begged me to let her bring them. No, No, and HELL No. Sure enough, day of and here she comes with all 3 in tow. We knew she'd try, so we had a groomsman at the door. He tells her no kids and SHE tries to tell him that I gave her special permission. He laughed in her face and said, "Ma'am, you're the reason I'm standing here and you need to leave".

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Stylishsidewaysbird
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP should deal with her demands just to keep the office peace? Umm how about she behave professionally to keep the office peace? I can’t imagine any situation in which I would cause this much office disruption just to being my 3 kids to an office party. And she needs a break? I’m sure she does but how does bringing 3 children to an adult only office party in an house that’s not child proofed constitute as a break?

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Red Reilly
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is with people like this?! I would just be like, Ok no party at mine.

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JayWantsACat
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It makes me rage every time people tell OP to just give into some a*****e's demands to "keep the peace". F**K THAT. Stop giving in to entitled people.

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PeakyBlinder
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do you ask, it is obvious you are NTA here. Anybody who does not like your rules or wants to have a christmas Party with 3 whiny brats and their entitled mother can host that Event. I'd stick with you and the cats. And even suggesting locking the kittys out of their home......WTF??

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Shadow
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HAHAHAHA thank you OP for starting my day with the best laugh!!! The only thing is, you do not need to ask. You already know who the AH is and she has 3 kids and annoys you at work. Just tell all your coworkers and your boss let them host the party and babysit her kids at their party!! Seriously state it in those exact terms, then, oh please. . . Update us!!! You win for best post of my day!!!!

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varwenea
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The second her complaints started and especially getting the boss involved, I would have sent out the email, "Regretfully, I can no longer host due to the new demands..."

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Denise Melek
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure I would host her...if I can come to her house next time with my three cats, of which one has rabies, she has to lock her toddlers outside, and sit my cats while I get drunk.

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Id row
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's always that one a$$hole that makes the entire event all about them.

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Skulls.N.Succulents
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't like people. Everyone involved except OP is either entitled or the reason why entitled people exist!!!

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Alvaro Patricio
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its your right! But i would've cancel the party as soon i found out that they were trying to find someone else without my knowledge. I would sent a email canceling and stating that since they already seeing other alternatives i gladly spet down ti acomodate our lovlie coworker!!! And let a congratulations to the college that steped up!!!

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JL
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this party taking place during work hours? If yes, why aren't these kids being kept wherever they go when this lady is in the office (although it does sound like that doesn't happen much).

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Bina Wei
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reading the title I thought it was gonna be a venue related office party and that OP could be being unreasonable (not necessarily the ahole) but then they mentioned there's a pool, alcohol (those two things and kids is downright dangerous) AND the lady wants the cats outside? Fudge that. Inside only cats should not be outside. Sometimes to outside cats? Sure. And the lady/co-worker has no right to demand the one who lives there (the cats) be out of the house. It's not her home. The co-worker needs to find a babysitter or stay home. Edit: Typos.

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Bored something
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it interesting that even though the other office staff are quick to call OP AH, none have volunteered to take on hosting the party. Clearly they don't want to deal with whinging mothers spawn and unreasonable demands any more that OP.

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Brainmas
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate this title. He didn't "make" her cry. He made rules, she was the only one with issues and chose to habe a fit of entitlement instead of just not going to this one. Boo fcking hoo.

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Sunny Day
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One assumes another employee or two has kids? And therefore are using a babysitter that night? Why haven't they offered to see if their babysitter would take on 3 extra for some extra $$?

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Allen Packard
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Can't the dad just watch the kids for a few hours so she can go? She just had the baby so I assume the father is still in the picture? Am I missing something?

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Cassie
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm concerned about the safety and well-being of the children whose parent not only thinks it's fine to, but demands to bring her children to an adult party with alcohol with the added risk of a pool onsite. Never mind the audacity that anybody should have to jump through hoops to accommodate her children.

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C.O. Shea
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boss is a cheap jerk. Pay up, buddy... don't dump on your staff.

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Antoinette Maldari
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't believe that someone a would ask a CO-WORKER 1) If they can bring their children to a childfree party. 2) That they ask the host to lock away their pets AND childproof their home. 3) Assume others will watch out for her kids 4) That the whole office is so concerned about her feelings, and to "keep the peace" (this is not a family event). 5) that this story is true.

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Coffeemama05
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a mother of three, who wanted kids and loves kids- you’re definitely not the AH. She has some unrealistic expectations. I would never ask someone who is hosting something those types of demands. I would feel extremely awkward shoving my kids down someone’s throat whom does not like or want kids. I couldn’t expect people to basically babysit my kids at someone’s home. Small kids around a bbq, alcohol and a pool? Is she insane? I also have an indoor cat and if someone asked me to set her outside I’d tell them to f*** off. If someone came into my home and told me they don’t like kids, I would show them the door. But you set your boundaries and she is sitting pretty high and mighty which is really weird and almost shameful to us normal parents. I promise I love my kids but I’m not crazy like she is. And for no one to have your back? The baby doesn’t always need to have it her way. I’d be so mad that I wouldn’t host anything again.

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H.L.Lewis
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house. Your rules. Everyone agreed to them. Your boss is really stomping on your boundaries. He needs to host instead.

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JP Purves
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the woman with three children runs the entire office. Should we assume she is the only worker with children and this gives her some sort of special entitlement that no one in the office is allowed?

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Spalding Monn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I say that this IA definitely ately becomimg a toxic work environment. Those catch phrases like keep the peace, reevaluate bla.bla.bla.... get my back up. Time for a quick debrief with HR I think.

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Jude Laskowski
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My house, my rules. No kids means no kids. What about her husband? Can't he parent his little monsters? Also, I would never kick my pets outside because someone is allergic; they can stay home. Even having a party at work should be no kids. I worked in an ER and we had a potluck for Christmas. One nurse brought her four small children who ate like they were starving, and generally messed up the food area. She ignored this.

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Gabriel Halsey
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the mother is real and not fabricated, she is a narcissist and people hoping to get through will only be wasting their time and effort

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Sunshine Sunshine
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA- hot take: if she wants to be with her children so badly for these few hours, then she should be, in her own home. I’m so over people thinking the world should bend over backwards cuz they had kids.

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LadyHermit
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't understand this type of people, and I don't necessarily mean the whole parents vs childfree debate. But in general, this whole attitude of "Me and my needs trump yours even in your own private life sphere, so suck it up." I mean seriously, how can some people be so, SO, SOOOOOOOOO f****n' entitled?!?!!!!! I give you my place to use, and you try to impose your own demands, whatever they may be, on MY space, personal choices and life?!?!!! Like wtf is wrong with these people?!!!!!

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brittany
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

at my old job every year we had a christmas party and weren't allowed to bring kids or spouses .the spouses thing i thought was kind of odd, but the kids thing made sense bc there was always alcohol and we tended to get very adult with our humor. having a no kids rule made 100 percent sense. i never begrudged them that and usually had a decent time.

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Yer maw 󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a mother the last thing I want to do is take my kids on Xmas nights out! If I can't get someone to look after the kids then I'm happy not going. I adore my children, they're amazing little people to me, but doesn't mean I expect everyone to want them to be present in every occasion especially a work night out. I'm allowed to have time to just be myself and enjoy adult time away from my kids too. I've not once expected anyone to accommodate taking my kids somewhere they've expressly stated is adults only let alone rearranging their home to suit them. I swear there's so many people out there these days that act like martyrs being a parent - it's not compulsory and being one doesn't make you deserving of special treatment

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Annie Steele
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NYA .. I can't stand kids, my house is not child friendly and I have no intention of changing.

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Karen Philpott
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So where's her children's father? Why is he not looking after them? If she really wants to go then maybe take dome industrial strength antihistamines. We have work do's, at one or other of our homes. No problems. As much as She wants to join in it may be better for her to catch up with her fellow workers before jumping in and expecting the red carpet roll out.

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LynzCatastrophe
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously? She wants to bring her kids and demands others look after them? She choose (I assume) to have these kids. It's her responsibility, not everyone else's to provide their care. Yes, help out every now and then but not rearrange your entire house. And that's your cats house too. It's a no children event, flat out. I mean no disrespect to mothers here, but it's amazing how many I've met (My sister included) who think they're special and the exception to every rule. And at that point, because others are trying to guilt you instead of being by your side, I'd cancel it at your house.

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Windtree
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So much trouble for just one person. She is being very entitled and ruining it for the rest.

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Tamra
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do some people attain this level of audacity?? To explicitly ignore the "no children" in the invitation, and take it FURTHER and tell the host to remove their cats for the event, baby-proof his own home, and have everyone babysit...?! WTF?!

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Sonja
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They get there by being supported by people who help them by putting pressure on completely innocent parties to 'keep the peace' instead of telling them off.

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My first reaction? "F#ck NO" My second reaction: same, and with the addition of "C'mon, there's a pool. Really?? You expect your co-workers to play lifeguard??"

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Ample Aardvark
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and I'd be looking for a new job, as nutcase mum will make their life a misery!

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Tyke
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she's back from maternity leave there must be some kind of childcare in place, so why can't she use it?

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Weasel Wise
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Being a mother is no small job"...first, it's not a job, it's a CHOICE. Second, where's the other parent? Why can't they babysit? Third, fùck the entire office staff, expecting the OP to be a doormat. Since when did it become just a thing to give every female breeder what they want just to keep peace? Maybe the people insisting on thrusting more humans onto this planet should consider that NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING!!! Wearing a condom or just not taking a load (mind blowing, right?) is so much easier for every person on Earth.

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Mike Fitzpatrick
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well said. Don't forget the "boss" in this scenario. "I want to have the company Christmas party, but I'm not paying for a venue so one of YOU have to host it, at YOUR HOME, with YOUR FOOD, but I still want to have a finger in the pie. Screw that! If the" boss" had a backbone from the start OP wouldn't be in the bad-guy role.

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Michael MacKinnon
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG ***There's a swimming pool there*** Where I'm from, you have to have a fence (a separate one) around the pool, because too many toddlers have fallen into pools and drowned. And the colleague want to bring her kids for other people to watch while she enjoys the party? Sorry, that's reckless endangerment on the part of the colleague. There is **no way** to "child proof" a swimming pool in that situation.

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Ivana Bašić
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, if someone is allergic to cats, a house with multiple cats can't be cleaned properly as long as they live there. It can be clean, but not so it wouldn't cause a reaction in someone who is actually allergic. It's just not a safe place for them.

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Bina Wei
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very good point. Add it to the list of the coworker being unreasonable.

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Rocco MZ
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for a small company and we take turns hosting parties. Rules are if the host has kids, bring your kids. If the host doesn't have kids, don't bring yours. Also, we made it clear to not ask the host to change or alter their home for any reason. No one has ever had a problem with this. People with kids can be such f*****g a******s. We allowed kids at our party one time and we made it clear to the parents that the house was not childproof and our dogs would run freely and their kids need to respect our home and not f**k with our dogs. Because they are good parents, they obliged and their kids were great. Still, stand your ground and tell them all to f**k off. This is the same woman who will sue you if something happens to one of her kids at your house.

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Star Anäis
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The entitlement and audacity of this woman. Wrong of your boss and coworkers to even pressure you and call you the AH. What's the update on this? He needs to find another place of employment!

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Ima Manimal
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. With all the ruckus about it, I’d just have to say, “sorry yall but I can no longer host this party.”

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Marno C.
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How did this woman arrive at 3 children with no other adult in her life able to do child care for a couple of hours? How does she go to work? Does she leave the kids chained up to a rack outside like bicycles? This whole party situation is a her problem, not an OP problem. (And the boss better not take for granted having employees willing to host a party. Sounds like he's going to have a more expensive route now of hiring a venue. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, boss.)

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Barrygirl1943
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - It is time to send an email that while you were looking forward to hosting, your home is not a safe place to host the party desired by the staff. Alternative arrangements need to be made. Perhaps Mom can host it because she should already have a childproof, cat free environment. Seriously, if you give in, you are asking for trouble - something will go wrong and you will be held accountable

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AspieGirl88
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry, but F*CK THAT! It’s THEIR bloody house! The boss & colleagues already agreed to the terms; & if those terms are broken, they are NOT obligated to host ANY party! This is borderline, if not full-on workplace harassment at this point & I’d probably consider seeking legal advice, in case they try wrongful dismissal over this. 🤨🤷‍♀️

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW. Talk about entitled! What is it with people who assume THEIR children are the exception? "Child free" means NO CHILDREN. So get a babysitter (where's their Father?) or don't come. We had the same problem at our childfree wedding. Went childfree because of one friend in particular. Her 3 boys (all under 10) were feral f*cking monkeys and she was an awful parent. Begged me to let her bring them. No, No, and HELL No. Sure enough, day of and here she comes with all 3 in tow. We knew she'd try, so we had a groomsman at the door. He tells her no kids and SHE tries to tell him that I gave her special permission. He laughed in her face and said, "Ma'am, you're the reason I'm standing here and you need to leave".

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Stylishsidewaysbird
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP should deal with her demands just to keep the office peace? Umm how about she behave professionally to keep the office peace? I can’t imagine any situation in which I would cause this much office disruption just to being my 3 kids to an office party. And she needs a break? I’m sure she does but how does bringing 3 children to an adult only office party in an house that’s not child proofed constitute as a break?

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Red Reilly
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is with people like this?! I would just be like, Ok no party at mine.

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JayWantsACat
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It makes me rage every time people tell OP to just give into some a*****e's demands to "keep the peace". F**K THAT. Stop giving in to entitled people.

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PeakyBlinder
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do you ask, it is obvious you are NTA here. Anybody who does not like your rules or wants to have a christmas Party with 3 whiny brats and their entitled mother can host that Event. I'd stick with you and the cats. And even suggesting locking the kittys out of their home......WTF??

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Shadow
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HAHAHAHA thank you OP for starting my day with the best laugh!!! The only thing is, you do not need to ask. You already know who the AH is and she has 3 kids and annoys you at work. Just tell all your coworkers and your boss let them host the party and babysit her kids at their party!! Seriously state it in those exact terms, then, oh please. . . Update us!!! You win for best post of my day!!!!

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varwenea
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The second her complaints started and especially getting the boss involved, I would have sent out the email, "Regretfully, I can no longer host due to the new demands..."

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Denise Melek
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure I would host her...if I can come to her house next time with my three cats, of which one has rabies, she has to lock her toddlers outside, and sit my cats while I get drunk.

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Id row
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's always that one a$$hole that makes the entire event all about them.

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Skulls.N.Succulents
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't like people. Everyone involved except OP is either entitled or the reason why entitled people exist!!!

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Alvaro Patricio
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its your right! But i would've cancel the party as soon i found out that they were trying to find someone else without my knowledge. I would sent a email canceling and stating that since they already seeing other alternatives i gladly spet down ti acomodate our lovlie coworker!!! And let a congratulations to the college that steped up!!!

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JL
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this party taking place during work hours? If yes, why aren't these kids being kept wherever they go when this lady is in the office (although it does sound like that doesn't happen much).

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Bina Wei
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reading the title I thought it was gonna be a venue related office party and that OP could be being unreasonable (not necessarily the ahole) but then they mentioned there's a pool, alcohol (those two things and kids is downright dangerous) AND the lady wants the cats outside? Fudge that. Inside only cats should not be outside. Sometimes to outside cats? Sure. And the lady/co-worker has no right to demand the one who lives there (the cats) be out of the house. It's not her home. The co-worker needs to find a babysitter or stay home. Edit: Typos.

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Bored something
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it interesting that even though the other office staff are quick to call OP AH, none have volunteered to take on hosting the party. Clearly they don't want to deal with whinging mothers spawn and unreasonable demands any more that OP.

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Brainmas
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate this title. He didn't "make" her cry. He made rules, she was the only one with issues and chose to habe a fit of entitlement instead of just not going to this one. Boo fcking hoo.

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Sunny Day
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One assumes another employee or two has kids? And therefore are using a babysitter that night? Why haven't they offered to see if their babysitter would take on 3 extra for some extra $$?

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Allen Packard
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Can't the dad just watch the kids for a few hours so she can go? She just had the baby so I assume the father is still in the picture? Am I missing something?

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Cassie
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm concerned about the safety and well-being of the children whose parent not only thinks it's fine to, but demands to bring her children to an adult party with alcohol with the added risk of a pool onsite. Never mind the audacity that anybody should have to jump through hoops to accommodate her children.

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C.O. Shea
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boss is a cheap jerk. Pay up, buddy... don't dump on your staff.

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Antoinette Maldari
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't believe that someone a would ask a CO-WORKER 1) If they can bring their children to a childfree party. 2) That they ask the host to lock away their pets AND childproof their home. 3) Assume others will watch out for her kids 4) That the whole office is so concerned about her feelings, and to "keep the peace" (this is not a family event). 5) that this story is true.

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Coffeemama05
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3 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a mother of three, who wanted kids and loves kids- you’re definitely not the AH. She has some unrealistic expectations. I would never ask someone who is hosting something those types of demands. I would feel extremely awkward shoving my kids down someone’s throat whom does not like or want kids. I couldn’t expect people to basically babysit my kids at someone’s home. Small kids around a bbq, alcohol and a pool? Is she insane? I also have an indoor cat and if someone asked me to set her outside I’d tell them to f*** off. If someone came into my home and told me they don’t like kids, I would show them the door. But you set your boundaries and she is sitting pretty high and mighty which is really weird and almost shameful to us normal parents. I promise I love my kids but I’m not crazy like she is. And for no one to have your back? The baby doesn’t always need to have it her way. I’d be so mad that I wouldn’t host anything again.

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H.L.Lewis
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your house. Your rules. Everyone agreed to them. Your boss is really stomping on your boundaries. He needs to host instead.

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JP Purves
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the woman with three children runs the entire office. Should we assume she is the only worker with children and this gives her some sort of special entitlement that no one in the office is allowed?

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Spalding Monn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I say that this IA definitely ately becomimg a toxic work environment. Those catch phrases like keep the peace, reevaluate bla.bla.bla.... get my back up. Time for a quick debrief with HR I think.

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Jude Laskowski
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My house, my rules. No kids means no kids. What about her husband? Can't he parent his little monsters? Also, I would never kick my pets outside because someone is allergic; they can stay home. Even having a party at work should be no kids. I worked in an ER and we had a potluck for Christmas. One nurse brought her four small children who ate like they were starving, and generally messed up the food area. She ignored this.

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Gabriel Halsey
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the mother is real and not fabricated, she is a narcissist and people hoping to get through will only be wasting their time and effort

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Sunshine Sunshine
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA- hot take: if she wants to be with her children so badly for these few hours, then she should be, in her own home. I’m so over people thinking the world should bend over backwards cuz they had kids.

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LadyHermit
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't understand this type of people, and I don't necessarily mean the whole parents vs childfree debate. But in general, this whole attitude of "Me and my needs trump yours even in your own private life sphere, so suck it up." I mean seriously, how can some people be so, SO, SOOOOOOOOO f****n' entitled?!?!!!!! I give you my place to use, and you try to impose your own demands, whatever they may be, on MY space, personal choices and life?!?!!! Like wtf is wrong with these people?!!!!!

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brittany
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

at my old job every year we had a christmas party and weren't allowed to bring kids or spouses .the spouses thing i thought was kind of odd, but the kids thing made sense bc there was always alcohol and we tended to get very adult with our humor. having a no kids rule made 100 percent sense. i never begrudged them that and usually had a decent time.

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Yer maw 󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a mother the last thing I want to do is take my kids on Xmas nights out! If I can't get someone to look after the kids then I'm happy not going. I adore my children, they're amazing little people to me, but doesn't mean I expect everyone to want them to be present in every occasion especially a work night out. I'm allowed to have time to just be myself and enjoy adult time away from my kids too. I've not once expected anyone to accommodate taking my kids somewhere they've expressly stated is adults only let alone rearranging their home to suit them. I swear there's so many people out there these days that act like martyrs being a parent - it's not compulsory and being one doesn't make you deserving of special treatment

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Annie Steele
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NYA .. I can't stand kids, my house is not child friendly and I have no intention of changing.

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Karen Philpott
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So where's her children's father? Why is he not looking after them? If she really wants to go then maybe take dome industrial strength antihistamines. We have work do's, at one or other of our homes. No problems. As much as She wants to join in it may be better for her to catch up with her fellow workers before jumping in and expecting the red carpet roll out.

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LynzCatastrophe
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously? She wants to bring her kids and demands others look after them? She choose (I assume) to have these kids. It's her responsibility, not everyone else's to provide their care. Yes, help out every now and then but not rearrange your entire house. And that's your cats house too. It's a no children event, flat out. I mean no disrespect to mothers here, but it's amazing how many I've met (My sister included) who think they're special and the exception to every rule. And at that point, because others are trying to guilt you instead of being by your side, I'd cancel it at your house.

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Windtree
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So much trouble for just one person. She is being very entitled and ruining it for the rest.

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