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24 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild
Who doesn’t love talking to a guy whose regard of womankind is slightly lower than that of stray dogs? They’re always sneaky, too, right? They won’t open up about their godawful views until you’ve sat down, had a drink or two, and have let your guard down.
When they’re nice and cozy, like the abhorrent parasitic tick, they show their true colors and just whale on you with the worst views ever known to humanity. Let’s look at some experiences that women have had with these “red-pilled” gentlemen.
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Absolutely. To rephrase your question: "Ladies, has the increased chance of encountering men who do not see you as a person affected your attraction to men?" Yes. Yes, it has. I like being a person, and being treated like one is the minimum for any interaction. The bar for romance for me is way higher than that (as it should be). Honestly, I think straight women like me are the absolute proof you cannot choose your sexual orientation. I'd date women in a heartbeat if I had the tiniest romantic feeling for them. Men can be really f*****g scary.
I gotta say, I don't lose all hope for men when I see a post where a woman talks about her s****y experiences with men or male partners. But I **DO** start losing hope and respect for men when I see what they comment on those kinds of posts
Early in my current relationship I noticed a used tear gas canister on my partners shelf. Thought it was a little reg flaggy. Asked about it, during a George Floyd protest it was thrown near him (he’s a corn-fed midwestern white boy), grabbed it diffused it in a fountain and put it his backpack. At the end of the story he said something like ‘some people hang bucks/fish, I keep social justice trophies’. In grad school he testified against two male students in his program that were found to have harassed (19) and assault (3) women. There are good men out there that are true genuine allies that support women and POC. Hope red pillers choke on it
To get some insight from someone with a unique perspective into this topic, we reached out to Hannah McKnight, a returning interview guest of Bored Panda! Hannah has significant experience presenting as male and female, so she has witnessed how men behave behind closed doors.
She has a mission - to talk about balancing life between genders, trans activism, social awareness, and everything that entails. If you’d like to find out more about her, make sure to visit her website!
I honestly think it’s made me a lot more aware of early warning signs in a guy. Not too long ago I was casually dating this guy, he was very clean cut and put together on the surface, we got on well and the s*x was okay but I didn’t mind because I figured it’d get better in time with communication. We stopped talking because I very nicely said I did like sleeping with him but if he could do more foreplay during s*x it’d be great. He became a bit standoffish. Then started giving me the silent treatment but made it very obvious he was ignoring me and I was more turned off by how immature it came off across. Turns out he was a huge tater tot, followed a bunch of instagram accounts that posted his videos. One of the vids he saw was another red pill dude who very clearly had daddy issues say “If you give your girl the silent treatment, she’ll be so desperate for attention she’ll be reaching out to you”. He got p****d that I didn’t do this and deleted me off everything lol. So yah, I’m lucky I have some genuinely amazing men in my life but it’s really made me more aware of subtle stuff.
I think, more generally, the internet has affected my attraction to men. Men seem to think everyone on the internet is a man, so they feel comfy saying all that misogynist s**t that apparently most of them believe very openly. The internet made 'locker room talk' public and I've been judging men for it since then.
Women in the US and China have been taking dates to the Barbie Movie to "vet" against sexist men. Not to mention the drove of breakups that came after men saw the movie and showed their true colors to their now ex gfs. They always out themselves eventually. Women see it just... we don't really need men the way they need women.
Hannah begins by talking a little about gender identity and her own identity in relation: “I'm a transgender girl. Identifying as transgender, in my opinion, is very inclusive and can cover quite a few different, albeit nuanced, gender identities. Being transgender doesn't necessarily mean transitioning, taking hormones, or legally changing one's name. If I need to get more specific about my gender, I identify as bi-gender. What this means to me is that I don't feel the need to, ah, commit to one gender identity or to one gender presentation. Sometimes I am wearing a necktie and use he/him pronouns, other days I am strutting around a bookstore in a cute dress.”
“Of course, gender is a social construct and gender isn't binary, but that is a topic for another time."
I used to be Christian Conservative and my ex bf at the time was very much so into 4chan while getting more and more extreme right wing as the years went on. We were together for 8 years. A lot of bull s**t happened in that amount of time, but I stayed because he had me so convinced that a civil war was going to break out, that the right was going to have to fight for their own land and new country, that eventually we would have to *literally* fight for our rights, and that he was going to protect me during this eventual war. I thought, well if it's going to happen, at least I'll be with someone that knows how to protect me. Saying this all now makes me cringe inside. Anyway, my current partner is liberal, a feminist, and a Marine. He helped me de-brainwash myself and has really helped me see the light. He is also accepting of the fact that I am attracted to women. If there were ever an actual war and all h**l broke loose, I know for a fact I would be in much better hands now than I would have ever been if I stayed with my ex. All of this to say, redpillers are scary. I would date exclusively women if something were to ever happen to my current partner because I could never risk even dating another redpiller. Conservative men are terrifying and are getting more and more extreme as time goes on.
Was with someone who got into the redpill movement during our relationship **He told me that I had duties as a woman and I needed to fulfill his needs** 0/10 would recommend getting with anyone who is into these belief and highly recommend leaving the second they bring up how it makes so much sense
She goes on to talk about how it may be difficult for some cisgender people to grasp gender identity: “Gender identity is a strange and difficult concept for some cisgender people to understand. I think much of this comes from an inability to relate to someone who feels the gender they were assigned at birth isn't quite right. I don't fault someone for not being able to relate to me. We all have different experiences and these experiences shape our opinions and feelings and thoughts. If you've never felt like the gender the doctor scribbled on your birth certificate was wrong, it's not always easy to grasp why someone would feel this way. No, I don't expect anyone to understand me. But I would hope, at the very least, you treat me kindly.”
I really can’t come up with any reason that I would date again. My single life is just so free and uncomplicated. All of the men I’ve ever been with have been more of a burden in my life. The upside for me just wasn’t there compared to what I had to sacrifice.
It wasn't the redpill that erased any interest or trust in men, it was men. They've always been like this, redpill just lets them be honest. Lord love him, my dad did not (does not) know what to do with a daughter, so he always treated me like a slightly weaker son. I grew up with the knowledge that it might take me longer to do strength related tasks, but I would get that couch moved, that tire changed, that box up the stairs, etc. I was expected to be just as independent and dependable as my brothers. And the few times my brothers tried to treat me less than because I was a girl, I proved them wrong. (Ah, brothers, bless their hearts. They are stronger, I'm sneakier.) Then I encountered men and boys who genuinely did see me as "less". Men and boys, coworkers and teachers and casual acquaintances who blink and look shocked when I talk back, when I hold the door for them, when I give them advice or joke around when them.... Yknow, when I dare to be a person treating them like a person. It took years to figure out it was a "them, not me" problem, and took a page out of their book and "went my own way". I prefer women, socially and romantically. In short, by the time redpill came around, I had already lost any interest in men as friends or acquaintances.
Im queer/bisexual and havent been attracted to a man in years. They ruined any attraction i had with how they are. Only non binary and women for me thanks
Hannah begins talking about her own life and being privy to guys’ “locker room talk”: “Because of the dual life/lives that I live, I feel I get a little glimpse into the different perspectives people have about gender and gender roles. When I present as male, men talk to me like I am 'one of the guys'. These conversations can range from sports to social topics to inappropriate comments. I suppose some people would call this 'locker room talk' but I think that's in an effort to excuse certain behavior.”
“I am not out to the majority of the people in my (male) life. Almost everyone I know thinks of me as the guy they work with or their buddy from high school. My gender identity isn't on their radar. Because of this, some people in my life have no hesitation sharing their perspective on women... whether they are cisgender or transgender. Sometimes they will complain about how long it takes for women to get ready or ridicule their teenage daughters for being dramatic about a silly boy. These opinions are rather telling when it comes to their perspective on women. Perhaps they feel women are too shallow or emotional. Perhaps they feel women are weaker for having emotions."
Yes. Being on the internet has opened my eyes to how little men think of us. I honestly have lost interest in even dating men after this s**t I’ve read.
I'm married so it doesn't have much impact on me personally in my daily life. However, if anything were to happen to my husband, I'd be single and celibate for the rest of my days on this planet.
I am more fearful of men in general now. I’ve become more aware of how men see us, in a way I never was before. A lot of them seem to hate us. When your read the words they use to describe women, it’s like we aren’t even human to them.
They dont hate women - they hate the way women make them feel about themselves, and then punish women for it.
According to her, society still misunderstands transgender people and she shares how that has affected her: “Over the last few years, transgender people have become a very charged discussion. We have been politicalized and demonized. We are discussed and scrutinized. We have become perverted villains in the eyes of many. It's strange to have this spotlight on people like myself, but it is quite an experience to hear my coworkers and family members discuss non-binary people. Sometimes someone voices their support or mentions that their friend is transgender.”
“Other times, well, it's less encouraging.”
It has made me very leery of dating, and if a man does anything red-pillish, such as trying to lower my confidence, pouf, I'm gone. Interestingly, it has made me reexamine my unconscious assumption of the desirability of being in a couple. I find being on my own, with the company of lots of platonic friends, peaceful, fun and fulfilling.
Yes. It’s impacting how men of all ages treat women. When I was single it was the reason I got off the dating apps. It’s also why I go out of my way not to engage with men in public. The entitlement and creepy, aggressive behavior is awful. I used to travel a lot for work so I spent a lot of time in places where you meet men. I remember when you’d be having dinner at a bar and have a nice conversation with a man, a bit of a laugh, a few drinks and then go your separate ways. There was a sort of camaraderie. Something happened and more and more men started treating women like they are prey they are entitled to. It’s scary out there. And they are so rude and mean. It’s totally crazy the stuff I’ve had total strangers say to me. And let me tell you, married men are the absolute worse. They are so gross and pushy. It used to be you’d be able to have a chat with a married man and know he likely wouldn’t hit on you. I will not engage with married men anymore. If women had any idea what their husbands are getting up to out in the world. I will never date a man who travels for work. Ever. If you’re married to a business traveler, especially a middle age one, you should regularly get STD tested.
Yes. I used to think a lot of misogyny and sexism was a generational thing. Something that would die out as understanding and empathy progressed. Now I understand that men don't really see women as human beings and only as things to benefit them. They don't want women to be happy because they genuinely don't give 2 s***s. I won't date anymore.
Oh 100% yes. I used to not care much about politics, basically: "don't encroach on the rights of others" was my only rule, but now I won't date anyone who isn't a liberal who supports feminism. It makes me scared, honestly. I want kids tremendously, but I don't know if I'll be able to find a male partner who I feel I can trust enough to do that with.
Our interviewee points out the inherent perspective of some men that women are weaker or inferior: “I've heard men discuss people like me and how they don't understand us. And that's fine... I guess. Like I said earlier, I am not trying to be understood. I just want to be treated kindly. Sometimes these conversations have led to men wondering why anyone would want to be a woman. ‘Why would anyone want to be inferior?’ they ask. ‘Why go from being a man to a girl?’ I've heard some men say that they kind of understand why a woman would want to transition to male, as if it's somewhat of a ‘promotion’, if you will.”
“This is, of course, not a reason people transition,” Hannah goes to finish, “But it is a reflection of how some men blatantly see their gender as superior. They may not understand transgender people, but they certainly understand why someone would want to be male.”
My generation is a bit old for the redpill movement which seems (to me) to be more for the younger crowd. HOWEVER, I’ve had enough experience with men of my own generation to be put off by the garden variety misogyny that seems to lurk just below the surface for so many of them. I am still attracted to men but I am not interested in being in a relationship with one.
Like seven months ago, I would have said that I don’t know where all these disgusting dudes hide when I’m around, and that I probably just surround myself with quality people. Then I heard my best friend say some out of pocket s**t about his girlfriend and he has not spoken to me since I called him out on it. Now I’ll just say that y’all need to do whatever keeps you in the safest and happiest state at all times, even if it means not f*****g with men. I still have other great friends who I perceive as being decent humans, but that experience rattled me. Couldn’t imagine hearing some of the s**t he said after becoming intimidate with someone.
Yes After dealing with a redpiller in the wild I am now way more hesitant to get involved with a man
Absolutely. It even made me wonder if I ever want myself in a relationship with a man in the future. Like, why would I even give anything to someone who does not even consider me a human being? In the end it increased my trust issues with men even more, and made me waay pickier about who I want in my social circle.
