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Person Asks If They’re A Jerk For Saying “No” When The Police Asked If Woman Was Their Fiancée Before Escorting Her Off The Plane
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Person Asks If They’re A Jerk For Saying “No” When The Police Asked If Woman Was Their Fiancée Before Escorting Her Off The Plane

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Air travel is the fastest way to get from point A to point B. It’s also safe and relatively comfortable, although the latter depends a lot on the number of dollars you’re willing to spend on it.

But flying can also be a hassle, even for hardened travelers. Just think of all the canceled flights, endless check-in and security lines, and mountains of lost luggage that dominated the headlines during the pandemic.

Which is why it’s a good idea to do everything we can to make the processes as smooth and easy as we can. This woman, however, did the complete opposite. In fact, she became such a huge problem for herself that the cops got involved, and her fiancé pretended not to know her.

Although after the ordeal, they did start having doubts if that was the correct call. So they made a post on the subreddit ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ asking its members to share their unbiased opinion. Continue scrolling to read what they wrote and let us know your own verdict in the comments.

This woman had such a bad temper tantrum while boarding a plane that her own fiancé pretended not to know her

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And let’s just say that she wasn’t happy about it too

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This story is a vivid example of what the federal secretary of the Flight Attendants’ Association of Australia Teri O’Toole has been talking about. According to her, many passengers get angry with airline workers because they are the physical representation of the organization.

“There’s a power imbalance between them and the passenger and they’re often the ones that become the punching bag for whatever complaint the passenger might have against the airline,” O’Toole said.

“That needs to change. When I go into a shop or a medical clinic there are signs everywhere that say ‘please do not abuse our staff’, and filming someone without their permission in their workplace is abuse. There needs to be an announcement as part of the safety demonstration saying the crew are there to save your lives, you need to respect them, do not abuse them. Yet as far as most airlines are concerned, it seems like the welfare of crew is secondary to the happiness of passengers.”

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The people that checked this woman didn’t make the rules. They’re simply there to enforce them. And she had every opportunity to learn about them in advance.

Nobody wants to travel with such primadonnas. Unfortunately, it’s often impossible to avoid them. However, American flight attendant Allie Malis has found that the morning is the most chill time of the day for flying.

“That’s my trick,” she said. “I don’t know if I should actually be telling everyone. Otherwise, they’re going to take all my morning flights.”

Malis’ logic is weather is less likely to disrupt flying first thing, even if there were delays the day before, as the system has usually reset overnight.

When it comes to holiday travel, Malis — who is also the government affairs representative at the Association of Professional Flight Attendants, a union representing American Airlines air crew — suggests leaving some buffer time if you’re able to.

For instance, flying on the day before Christmas Eve, rather than on the 24th, gives you a bit of leeway and other folks should be a little less stressed as well.

Most people think the original poster (OP) can’t be blamed for how they handled the situation

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While some believe that both of them were in the wrong


And some find him guilty of being a jerk

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Paul Mitchell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not a fake story, my ex wife was similar; he talent for making a huge scene out of nothing was the stuff of legends. It sounds to me like NPD and/or BPD. I hope that this was the end of the relationship for his sake.

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Stump Rumpersonne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same and sorry you experienced that. My wife and I both have ex's exactly like that. It's part of how we initially bonded

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Sleepflower
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe she thought that if she just ran past the airport staff and onto the plane everything would be absolutely fine, they'd take off and she'd get home without anything happening to her. By pretending he didn't know her I'm pretty sure he already knows they won't end up getting married, or even staying together. She sounds absolutely abhorrent and it's a wonderful thing that he found this out before marrying her instead of after. That would've been terrible.

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tHeBoRdEsTpAnDa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, you warned her, she ignored you, the flight attendant warned her, she ignored them, you panicked

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CatWoman312
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course it’s an a*****e thing to do to not defend your fiancée, but also to pretend you don’t know her….however your fiancée is a full blown Karen. Next time it’ll be a restaurant or store. Your years are going to be full of embarrassing moments if this is who you choose to spend your life with. I’d break up. This was the red flag you needed.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's not an a*****e for not defending her because there was no defense for what she did. Being a good partner doesn't mean defending someone's bad behavior, be it stupid, cruel, entitled, or illegal. He tried to give her solid advice from his traveling experience well before the trip. She chose to ignore it, argue with gate attendant, AND run past the gate to illegally board a plane. I fail to see what he should have defended her about. Argue and fight the attendant to force them to allow her bag? Fight the police in order to keep her on the plane? Hell no. She wasn't in the right here in any way so she shouldn't be defended. The only outcome would be him also being removed. If I had to be back home for an important reason and wasn't sure if they'd let me stay on the flight if I admitted to knowing her, I'd probably say I didn't know her either. She made a decision and faced the consequences. Why should he risk getting fired or ruining his work reputation because she's an a*****e?

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Carol Emory
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no sympathy for people that pull this kind of c**p. If I was her boyfriend, I would have distanced myself too...if for no other reason than to get home to the people that are relying on me. She chose to have a meltdown about something as simple as a bag check. If her lack of being able to listen to the voice of experience means things like this will be happening frequently, I'd ditch her and look for someone a little more stable and willing to listen.

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Monday
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean....she's the one that broke the rules and did a really stupid thing, no need for both of them to be punished for it. Hopefully she can see the humor in the situation after she calms down.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hopefully he sees a glimpse of his future and ends the relationship. Her actions were entitled, embarrassing, and illegal (boarding a plane after she'd obviously been denied). I wouldn't sign up for 40+ years of that.

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Eliza
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We get to the airport/on a plane and you begin to act a fool. I don't know you! Done.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I can't survive for a week out of my carry-on, I didn't pack right. If I need to check it, I ship it. Been flying all my adult life, so far so good. Just pay to check the luggage if you can't abide by size rules. They do exist for a reason. I have seen a craacked orbital bone or two from overhead bin luggage popping out and landing on people mid-flight. (I was one of them a couple weeks ago. OW.)

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Mason Kronol
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I purposely bought a luggage set with 2 carry ons. In 2006 I had to fly for business-again. The TSA was still a mess with 9/11 rules. I hate flying so I dragged my husband with me. We went a couple days extra and went to the beach so in spite of my spouse making fun of me I wore my bikini under my Ohio weather jeans and sweater. My sunscreen, toothbrush and razor was in my carry on. If our checked luggage was lost or our hotel wasn't ready at least I could go straight to the beach! Also probably wouldn't have needed the 3rd suitcase if it wasn't winter and we needed coats and warm clothes to and fro. Uber wasn't a thing yet.

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Candice Cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I the only one who thinks that sometimes it's okay to be the ah? I mean in this case I'd probably have done the same and I'm not a mean person by any means, but I'm also not going to be subjected to another person's temper tantrum on an airplane where everyone literally knows is not the time nor the place. They take the rules SUPER seriously and rightly so. I don't think an ounce of self preservation makes you the ah though. I think it was completely justified and should've said to her that this is behavior that I find absolutely abhorrent and will be no party to at any time bc I would've been humiliated if my partner acted like that, but I doubt she got that message. She should've been apologizing not calling him an ah. That's just my opinion though.

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Melody Thomas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nta...... your girl is a Karen. She's rude, disrespectful and thinks someone owes her something. I would have left her alone for e-v-e-r

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Dude dude The second
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dump her a**e. if this is how she is before the marriage, I can only think of what it will turn into later. Or start a YouTube channel detailing you everyday life and make millions, the internet eats this stuff up right now lmao.

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Rob Eman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What as a weak push over that she can easily bully around? She probably likes him more now! (In her head, not in words spoken)

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Kristina Cowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, she didn't follow rules for baggage and made a scene, showing her character in the process. Please consider if you really want this kind of person in your life.

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Deborah B
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was an a*****e and got kicked of the plane. He was an a*****e for pretending not to know her, but hopefully it will be a wake up call for both of them, and they'll both get some counselling. I don't see this relationship working out if they don't, because it sounds like he's avoidant and can't handle public embarassment, and she has poor self-control and has tantrums.

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Livingwithcfs
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A Karen in training. You had informed her of the hand luggage rules and she has obviously traveled at least once before, so honestly this is all on her and I think any rational adult would want to separate themselves from an adult temper tantrum. I would think about continuing seeing her as you've seen her under stress and you didn't want to have anything to do with it... do uiu think you'll want to deal with this in 5 years?

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly don't understand why people refuse to gate check. It's free. You don't have to wrangle a bag through the tiny aisle, or give up the space in front of your feet. They usually give you the bag right back at the gate, so you don't have to wait at the baggage carousel. If you have a connection, sometimes they'll just check it all the way through to your final destination. Again. totally free. So why not?

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Kel Liston
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get out while you can. Trust me she WILL throw this incident in your face FOREVER every chance she gets and will let everyone know how you left her alone to deal with it.

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Angersly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny when people in the reddit comments who obviously haven't flown in the last ten years (or ever) act like they know the whole ridiculous debacle with carry-ons. Almost fits = it'll get to security easy enough but when you get to the plane (before the boarding tunnel) if you're towards the back it'll be checked. Even if it is the exact measurements to be allowed. If it won't fit under the seat, it's going to be checked. And it's not hard to push past a gate attendant. They're not security. They're gonna let you go and get the police, which is what they did here. And we've seen enough videos of people causing scenes on planes that this is plausible. In fact this isn't the mostegregious all things considered. And then someone tried to argue with OP "if you had to be work on time how did you pick her up?" Apparently this person was writing from the past before texting was a thing. I get the people do make stuff up on reddit, but some people are ridiculous.

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kath morgan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is a bit of a dïck move but one you felt reasonably driven to, I think. Need to have a chat and see if you can get her to understand why you did it: She knew what she was doing and it was her responsibility to make sure her luggage was fit to fly. By choosing not to do that she could have made you late for work. If she doesn’t understand… rethink the whole thing, tbh.

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Laura Ketteridge
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suspect if I was in a similar situation I would reply to the question of, "Are you together?" with "We were, but I need to distance myself totally from this person. Such behaviour is unacceptable." There would also be absolutely no doubt as to whether we were still engaged!

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm thinking ESH. The bag has made it through before, even on their flights out. He states it fits the carry-on standards, if "barely", and implies that they were able to 'settle in' with the bag at their seats, so there was room. She is not an AH for having this bag, or being upset when it seemed the rules somehow changed on the way home. She should have gate checked it when asked, since that is not a big deal, and not run past the airport staff. But it does feel like the gate attendant was being assholish themselves on purpose. Even if she was a bad customer deserving of being hauled off the flight, he doesn't look good. His self-serving side shines through. After hearing this, you'd always kind of wonder if, when the house was on fire, would he save himself and leave the kids? Does he always take the last piece? Would he snipe you for a job he wants? He should have gone with her to ensure she was safe. Once she was, THEN he could have broken up with her.

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Additional points: He knew she was upset on the plane, but chose to try and take a nap instead of ask what happened at the gate. So there's a bit of a habit of taking the slightly more self-serving option. It also seems like HE wants to remain engaged, but fears SHE will dump him over this. Which means he does not view her arguing with the staff as a dumpable offense (he does not state if she is confrontational and argumentative in all things, or if this is a one-off, so it's possible, if this isn't a normal thing, that he'd want to remain together) If that is the case, then he should have gone with her even more, and should understand why she doesn't want him now that he's shown he is not reliable in bad situations.

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Ivona
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In such cases, the gate attendants gate-check the suitcase. It happens frequently on overcrowded flights. It's strange that they didn't they offer to gate-check the woman's suitcase. And he was definitely wrong to do what he did.

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El MasChingon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but you should really look at that type of entitled behavior and pet some serious thought of wanting to hitch your horse to that wagon and marry this Karin

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Mary Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I'm an esh person. She acted horribly (like a "Karen", though I really hate that term) and was clearly in the wrong, but this person flat-out denied knowing the person he was intending to marry. If that's how you're going to act, why did you choose to get engaged to such a person?

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Linda Santiago
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I married at a young age and let's just say I haven't always had control of my emotions. I have acted like an idiot in public and although my husband was embarrassed he never abandoned me. I've since matured and of course feel stupid for the way I acted. I'm thankful my husband was patient and loved me enough to helpe through my issues. I'm not excusing her behavior but he had to have known she was like this before the flight. He abandoned the person he's suppose to marry . I would hate to see if something bad happened..he's out the door. I wouldn't marry him .

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Preston Baity
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have been embarrassed and upset with her, but I would not have disowned her and gotten off the plane with her. Everything she did was wrong. And even though she caused the situation, she was alone at that time and should have been able to depend on your loyalty.

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Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot stand these people who cause a huge problem on planes. Yes thank you for making me late to my connecting flight and ruining my trip because you needed to have some political/emotional/entitled hissy fit because of your own issues. Make life miserable for everyone you selfish jerk. That being said....hey, you chose her. You want to marry her. That means you take the bad with the good. So you're definitely TA for pretending not to know her. You should've gotten off the plane with her, apologized for her like she was a screaming child, and if you want to break up do so but be a grown up and deal with it. I understand it was embarrassing but tell her that directly at the time it's happening. Maybe if she hears it from someone who cares about it her she will wake up to how bad her behavior is. What you did just tells me that in cases when you don't agree with her in your marriage, instead of facing it you're going to run away or act like it's not happening in order to avoid it.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you about people causing issues on planes. I was on my last leg returning from vacation about a decade ago and the flight was already slightly delayed because of me which I felt horrible about but I had severe sunpoisoning and the airline wanted to verify with thier own medical personnel that the altitude change wouldnt make me worse (my skin was so badly blistered it looked like it was melting off). I hadnt said anything but a flight attendant saw how bad I looked and she called for it. I had been in one of the first boarding groups so they kept boarding the plane while getting me cleared to fly. Just as the dr was leaving a final couple rushes on and causes a major scene. They had missed thier original flight because the wife had been drunk and fell through a window (?) on thier way out of thier hotel in the morning and they were ranting that the airline hadnt held thier first flight for them and that they couldnt get equivalent seats on this one (continued)

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Will Cable
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder what her name is....are we thinking it begins with 'K'

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Honey R.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely in the wrong for numerous reasons. 1. She was coming back from vacation so obviously flying out there wasn't an issue with this luggage. 2. You left her behind to check in by herself, clearly uncaringly and also implies that almost resented her luggage and willing her to get into trouble alone. 3. You totally washed your hand off when she was in a distressing situation. Please do not be in this person's life. She may not be the best but anyone deserves better than what she got in you.

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Mason Kronol
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. If you had a lovely vacation why wouldn't you support your future spouse. He obviously did not care what happened to her after the cops came. If he was able to pick her up he was able to stick around. I find the story about an important business project suspect. Never go on vacation without knowing you could be gone an extra 2-3 days because of weather, wether it's driving or flying, or a pandemic. Also buy travel insurance because twice I have been injured on vacation. Fool me once...

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Royal Stray
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure if it's fake, but how did she get through all the other luggage checks that would have made sure that her bag was allowed on the plane before she actually tried to board. Also he said it barely met requirements which would mean that it did technically meat them. Also it seems like a bit of an overreaction from the airline to get a cop involved, usually they just come up and calmly talk to whoever is breaking their rules as long as they don't see it as a threat. I wonder if there's something he's leaving out. Lastly why didn't he talk with her about this before they got on the plane? That being said she acted like a spoilt child and an adult should realize not to do that

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Paul Mitchell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not a fake story, my ex wife was similar; he talent for making a huge scene out of nothing was the stuff of legends. It sounds to me like NPD and/or BPD. I hope that this was the end of the relationship for his sake.

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Stump Rumpersonne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same and sorry you experienced that. My wife and I both have ex's exactly like that. It's part of how we initially bonded

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Sleepflower
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe she thought that if she just ran past the airport staff and onto the plane everything would be absolutely fine, they'd take off and she'd get home without anything happening to her. By pretending he didn't know her I'm pretty sure he already knows they won't end up getting married, or even staying together. She sounds absolutely abhorrent and it's a wonderful thing that he found this out before marrying her instead of after. That would've been terrible.

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tHeBoRdEsTpAnDa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, you warned her, she ignored you, the flight attendant warned her, she ignored them, you panicked

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CatWoman312
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course it’s an a*****e thing to do to not defend your fiancée, but also to pretend you don’t know her….however your fiancée is a full blown Karen. Next time it’ll be a restaurant or store. Your years are going to be full of embarrassing moments if this is who you choose to spend your life with. I’d break up. This was the red flag you needed.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's not an a*****e for not defending her because there was no defense for what she did. Being a good partner doesn't mean defending someone's bad behavior, be it stupid, cruel, entitled, or illegal. He tried to give her solid advice from his traveling experience well before the trip. She chose to ignore it, argue with gate attendant, AND run past the gate to illegally board a plane. I fail to see what he should have defended her about. Argue and fight the attendant to force them to allow her bag? Fight the police in order to keep her on the plane? Hell no. She wasn't in the right here in any way so she shouldn't be defended. The only outcome would be him also being removed. If I had to be back home for an important reason and wasn't sure if they'd let me stay on the flight if I admitted to knowing her, I'd probably say I didn't know her either. She made a decision and faced the consequences. Why should he risk getting fired or ruining his work reputation because she's an a*****e?

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Carol Emory
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no sympathy for people that pull this kind of c**p. If I was her boyfriend, I would have distanced myself too...if for no other reason than to get home to the people that are relying on me. She chose to have a meltdown about something as simple as a bag check. If her lack of being able to listen to the voice of experience means things like this will be happening frequently, I'd ditch her and look for someone a little more stable and willing to listen.

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Monday
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean....she's the one that broke the rules and did a really stupid thing, no need for both of them to be punished for it. Hopefully she can see the humor in the situation after she calms down.

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Magpie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hopefully he sees a glimpse of his future and ends the relationship. Her actions were entitled, embarrassing, and illegal (boarding a plane after she'd obviously been denied). I wouldn't sign up for 40+ years of that.

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Eliza
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We get to the airport/on a plane and you begin to act a fool. I don't know you! Done.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I can't survive for a week out of my carry-on, I didn't pack right. If I need to check it, I ship it. Been flying all my adult life, so far so good. Just pay to check the luggage if you can't abide by size rules. They do exist for a reason. I have seen a craacked orbital bone or two from overhead bin luggage popping out and landing on people mid-flight. (I was one of them a couple weeks ago. OW.)

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Mason Kronol
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I purposely bought a luggage set with 2 carry ons. In 2006 I had to fly for business-again. The TSA was still a mess with 9/11 rules. I hate flying so I dragged my husband with me. We went a couple days extra and went to the beach so in spite of my spouse making fun of me I wore my bikini under my Ohio weather jeans and sweater. My sunscreen, toothbrush and razor was in my carry on. If our checked luggage was lost or our hotel wasn't ready at least I could go straight to the beach! Also probably wouldn't have needed the 3rd suitcase if it wasn't winter and we needed coats and warm clothes to and fro. Uber wasn't a thing yet.

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Candice Cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I the only one who thinks that sometimes it's okay to be the ah? I mean in this case I'd probably have done the same and I'm not a mean person by any means, but I'm also not going to be subjected to another person's temper tantrum on an airplane where everyone literally knows is not the time nor the place. They take the rules SUPER seriously and rightly so. I don't think an ounce of self preservation makes you the ah though. I think it was completely justified and should've said to her that this is behavior that I find absolutely abhorrent and will be no party to at any time bc I would've been humiliated if my partner acted like that, but I doubt she got that message. She should've been apologizing not calling him an ah. That's just my opinion though.

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Melody Thomas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nta...... your girl is a Karen. She's rude, disrespectful and thinks someone owes her something. I would have left her alone for e-v-e-r

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Dude dude The second
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dump her a**e. if this is how she is before the marriage, I can only think of what it will turn into later. Or start a YouTube channel detailing you everyday life and make millions, the internet eats this stuff up right now lmao.

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Rob Eman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What as a weak push over that she can easily bully around? She probably likes him more now! (In her head, not in words spoken)

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Kristina Cowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, she didn't follow rules for baggage and made a scene, showing her character in the process. Please consider if you really want this kind of person in your life.

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Deborah B
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was an a*****e and got kicked of the plane. He was an a*****e for pretending not to know her, but hopefully it will be a wake up call for both of them, and they'll both get some counselling. I don't see this relationship working out if they don't, because it sounds like he's avoidant and can't handle public embarassment, and she has poor self-control and has tantrums.

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Livingwithcfs
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A Karen in training. You had informed her of the hand luggage rules and she has obviously traveled at least once before, so honestly this is all on her and I think any rational adult would want to separate themselves from an adult temper tantrum. I would think about continuing seeing her as you've seen her under stress and you didn't want to have anything to do with it... do uiu think you'll want to deal with this in 5 years?

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly don't understand why people refuse to gate check. It's free. You don't have to wrangle a bag through the tiny aisle, or give up the space in front of your feet. They usually give you the bag right back at the gate, so you don't have to wait at the baggage carousel. If you have a connection, sometimes they'll just check it all the way through to your final destination. Again. totally free. So why not?

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Kel Liston
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get out while you can. Trust me she WILL throw this incident in your face FOREVER every chance she gets and will let everyone know how you left her alone to deal with it.

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Angersly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny when people in the reddit comments who obviously haven't flown in the last ten years (or ever) act like they know the whole ridiculous debacle with carry-ons. Almost fits = it'll get to security easy enough but when you get to the plane (before the boarding tunnel) if you're towards the back it'll be checked. Even if it is the exact measurements to be allowed. If it won't fit under the seat, it's going to be checked. And it's not hard to push past a gate attendant. They're not security. They're gonna let you go and get the police, which is what they did here. And we've seen enough videos of people causing scenes on planes that this is plausible. In fact this isn't the mostegregious all things considered. And then someone tried to argue with OP "if you had to be work on time how did you pick her up?" Apparently this person was writing from the past before texting was a thing. I get the people do make stuff up on reddit, but some people are ridiculous.

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kath morgan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is a bit of a dïck move but one you felt reasonably driven to, I think. Need to have a chat and see if you can get her to understand why you did it: She knew what she was doing and it was her responsibility to make sure her luggage was fit to fly. By choosing not to do that she could have made you late for work. If she doesn’t understand… rethink the whole thing, tbh.

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Laura Ketteridge
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suspect if I was in a similar situation I would reply to the question of, "Are you together?" with "We were, but I need to distance myself totally from this person. Such behaviour is unacceptable." There would also be absolutely no doubt as to whether we were still engaged!

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm thinking ESH. The bag has made it through before, even on their flights out. He states it fits the carry-on standards, if "barely", and implies that they were able to 'settle in' with the bag at their seats, so there was room. She is not an AH for having this bag, or being upset when it seemed the rules somehow changed on the way home. She should have gate checked it when asked, since that is not a big deal, and not run past the airport staff. But it does feel like the gate attendant was being assholish themselves on purpose. Even if she was a bad customer deserving of being hauled off the flight, he doesn't look good. His self-serving side shines through. After hearing this, you'd always kind of wonder if, when the house was on fire, would he save himself and leave the kids? Does he always take the last piece? Would he snipe you for a job he wants? He should have gone with her to ensure she was safe. Once she was, THEN he could have broken up with her.

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millac
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Additional points: He knew she was upset on the plane, but chose to try and take a nap instead of ask what happened at the gate. So there's a bit of a habit of taking the slightly more self-serving option. It also seems like HE wants to remain engaged, but fears SHE will dump him over this. Which means he does not view her arguing with the staff as a dumpable offense (he does not state if she is confrontational and argumentative in all things, or if this is a one-off, so it's possible, if this isn't a normal thing, that he'd want to remain together) If that is the case, then he should have gone with her even more, and should understand why she doesn't want him now that he's shown he is not reliable in bad situations.

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Ivona
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In such cases, the gate attendants gate-check the suitcase. It happens frequently on overcrowded flights. It's strange that they didn't they offer to gate-check the woman's suitcase. And he was definitely wrong to do what he did.

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El MasChingon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but you should really look at that type of entitled behavior and pet some serious thought of wanting to hitch your horse to that wagon and marry this Karin

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Mary Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I'm an esh person. She acted horribly (like a "Karen", though I really hate that term) and was clearly in the wrong, but this person flat-out denied knowing the person he was intending to marry. If that's how you're going to act, why did you choose to get engaged to such a person?

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Linda Santiago
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I married at a young age and let's just say I haven't always had control of my emotions. I have acted like an idiot in public and although my husband was embarrassed he never abandoned me. I've since matured and of course feel stupid for the way I acted. I'm thankful my husband was patient and loved me enough to helpe through my issues. I'm not excusing her behavior but he had to have known she was like this before the flight. He abandoned the person he's suppose to marry . I would hate to see if something bad happened..he's out the door. I wouldn't marry him .

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Preston Baity
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have been embarrassed and upset with her, but I would not have disowned her and gotten off the plane with her. Everything she did was wrong. And even though she caused the situation, she was alone at that time and should have been able to depend on your loyalty.

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Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot stand these people who cause a huge problem on planes. Yes thank you for making me late to my connecting flight and ruining my trip because you needed to have some political/emotional/entitled hissy fit because of your own issues. Make life miserable for everyone you selfish jerk. That being said....hey, you chose her. You want to marry her. That means you take the bad with the good. So you're definitely TA for pretending not to know her. You should've gotten off the plane with her, apologized for her like she was a screaming child, and if you want to break up do so but be a grown up and deal with it. I understand it was embarrassing but tell her that directly at the time it's happening. Maybe if she hears it from someone who cares about it her she will wake up to how bad her behavior is. What you did just tells me that in cases when you don't agree with her in your marriage, instead of facing it you're going to run away or act like it's not happening in order to avoid it.

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Jen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you about people causing issues on planes. I was on my last leg returning from vacation about a decade ago and the flight was already slightly delayed because of me which I felt horrible about but I had severe sunpoisoning and the airline wanted to verify with thier own medical personnel that the altitude change wouldnt make me worse (my skin was so badly blistered it looked like it was melting off). I hadnt said anything but a flight attendant saw how bad I looked and she called for it. I had been in one of the first boarding groups so they kept boarding the plane while getting me cleared to fly. Just as the dr was leaving a final couple rushes on and causes a major scene. They had missed thier original flight because the wife had been drunk and fell through a window (?) on thier way out of thier hotel in the morning and they were ranting that the airline hadnt held thier first flight for them and that they couldnt get equivalent seats on this one (continued)

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Will Cable
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder what her name is....are we thinking it begins with 'K'

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Honey R.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely in the wrong for numerous reasons. 1. She was coming back from vacation so obviously flying out there wasn't an issue with this luggage. 2. You left her behind to check in by herself, clearly uncaringly and also implies that almost resented her luggage and willing her to get into trouble alone. 3. You totally washed your hand off when she was in a distressing situation. Please do not be in this person's life. She may not be the best but anyone deserves better than what she got in you.

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Mason Kronol
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. If you had a lovely vacation why wouldn't you support your future spouse. He obviously did not care what happened to her after the cops came. If he was able to pick her up he was able to stick around. I find the story about an important business project suspect. Never go on vacation without knowing you could be gone an extra 2-3 days because of weather, wether it's driving or flying, or a pandemic. Also buy travel insurance because twice I have been injured on vacation. Fool me once...

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Royal Stray
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure if it's fake, but how did she get through all the other luggage checks that would have made sure that her bag was allowed on the plane before she actually tried to board. Also he said it barely met requirements which would mean that it did technically meat them. Also it seems like a bit of an overreaction from the airline to get a cop involved, usually they just come up and calmly talk to whoever is breaking their rules as long as they don't see it as a threat. I wonder if there's something he's leaving out. Lastly why didn't he talk with her about this before they got on the plane? That being said she acted like a spoilt child and an adult should realize not to do that

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