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As many are aware, the Vatican is a very beautiful travel destination. It has many great cultural sites that can probably captivate anyone with their beauty, like the famous Sistine Chapel, for example.

Yet, the Vatican has even more to offer in terms of precious artifacts than some might realize. So, to educate people on such matters, X account @Culture Critic posted a thread where they and other accounts shared many interesting treasures that are hidden within Vatican walls, which turned out to be an educational and visually captivating scroll through social media.

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Tamra
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Incredible that this has survived the ages.

Foxglove🇮🇪
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not so incredible if it's been locked away in the Vatican since 400AD!

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Richard Wareham
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A great deal of the Vatican's treasures are not available to the general public. Locked away and hidden as is the Catholic Churches vast wealth. Just imagine how much suffering in the world could be relieved if they just spread the wealth.

Lee Henderson
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Porphyry is an igneous rock similar in composition to granite. Unlike common granites, pophyry has large, light-colored crystals of quartz or feldspar floating in a red or purple fine-grained matrix of smaller crystals.

Edward Finger Hands
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to take a 1 billion dollar bath please

SleepSycho
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes you wonder... What kids of debauchery happened in it

Couragetcd
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um, please fix what I really, really hope is a typo and change kids to kinda?

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Jason Boyd
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, most of the porphyry is locked away but you can see two pillars in the forum that are worth about $20 million each. Temple of Romulus if I remember right: https://passportsandpigtails.com/2016/05/30/pillars-power-and-performances-romes-colosseum-area/

jamesmcwhirty
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it is such a shame it isn't owned by an institution that would sell it and use the money to benefit the poor and the needy.....

Richard Graham
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's a bargain - I'll sell my bathtub for HALF that amount!

Elchinero
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

porphyry is a coarse-grained igneous rock, sorta like granite. Marble is a dense limestone: CaCO3.

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    RabidChild
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, of course. Didn't the church appropriate most everything - traditions, holidays, celebrations, mythology - from the pagans?

    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Catholics had the mildly annoying habit of building their churches on top of temples of religions they did not approve of.

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    CD King
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most early churches were built on top of First Nations long houses in Canada.

    Patricia Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Catholic did appropriate pagan temples, places and holidays to stop pagan worship but to also show its superiority and gain followers.

    ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Vatican Catacombs was one of the best days of my life. I’m not even religious, but that’s how amazing it is.

    La Lucy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you go to Rome, you can book a tour to see these. The Scavi tour has to be booked directly with the Vatican, and usually 6 months, minimum, ahead of time.

    Paul Gerrard
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The tour of the "scavi" (excavations) is very limited. We visited in 2019 and it is amazing to walk the paths inside an ancient cemetary including graffiti. Its All there and you pass through layers of history under the plaza and vatican.

    Rowan Kohler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Likely the Etruscan’s. Vatican Hill was a holy place to them before they were replaced by Romans the new Etruscan culture and removed the then harsh monarchy of Etruria. Vatica was thought an older god or such with the site is named.

    Timbob
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would you consider telling us which basilica ?

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    Ash
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gorgeous. And wouldn't be as awesome without that deftly-placed stream of sunlight...

    dan gerene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is actually a cherub up in the corner holding a Blessed Tactical Flashlight. $39.99 at the Vatican Gift Shop. Forever Ready batteries extra.

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    AtMostAFabulist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is the horse converting too?

    Couragetcd
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least this one makes sense to be at the Vatican. Nice there is one on here that doesn't remind me of the British Museum

    JEON CENA
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of Napoleon crossing the Alps

    Marie Lane
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And there are many more gorgeous Bernini sculptures at the Galleria Borghese…

    Brent Corbaley
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By "awaken spiritually", You mean to idolatry?...

    The Vatican (also called Vatican City or the Vatican City State) is the smallest state in the world, both by area and population. But that isn’t the only thing that makes it special. It is also a state that is ruled by the Pope, who is the bishop of Rome and head of the Catholic Church. Or in other words, it is ruled by The Holy See. 

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    It became independent from Italy in 1929 with the Lateran Treaty. The name for the state derived from an Etruscan settlement, Vatica or Vaticum, which was located in the area the Romans called Ager Vaticanus – "Vatican territory." Yet, since the state doesn’t have its own language, its legislation and official communications use Italian. 

    Despite being the smallest state in the world, the Vatican has its own football team. The team is made up of employees of the Vatican, like police officers, postal workers, and even the members of the Pontifical Swiss Guard, which is kind of like the state's army, and it protects the Pope

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    Daisy1355
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would kill to see that manuscript of the Divine Comedy

    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure there's a papal dispensation for that one.

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    Nimitz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Papal archives contain, essentially, the entire known remaining history of our species, and they're not shared because much of it doesn't align with the bible. They stole our stories and our truth

    der sebbl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    European history. And i highly doubt that. If there was some 'forbidden truth' it would be more likely to been destroyed than to be stored.

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    Simona M.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I wouldn't give to spend at least a week there......

    ImATotalTina
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Btw comedy back then was kinda like a drama, not an actual comedy

    ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started to say there’s no way anyone wouldn’t know that. Then….ya….

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    Adam Belaire
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also Galileo's third text. Diagramma

    Pedantic Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The letter wasn't sent? Explains a lot..

    PataSata
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should digitize all of it, and make it public

    Avoidance_Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope they are backing this up in digital form, the loss of this would just be to great...

    TheAmericanAmerican
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably around 10% of the archives' knowledge is public knowledge... it's a crime against humanity that it remains sealed off to us!

    der sebbl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ost of the stuff is probably very boring administrative stuff

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    Ubiquitous
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My shopping list is a rare manuscript. Only one ever written

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    Mya Lugar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No wonder they had no worries about walking around naked or near so...no big deal as it turns out!!

    Ash
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    on a side note, the ancient greeks felt that small penises were a sign of fertility. The ancient Romans might have been more positive towards large penises, but their sculptures continue the trend of small penises. So it didn't matter if your package was small!

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    Nickie LaRue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why you don't let people take pictures of you naked.. you never know where it'll end up. That naked selfie you send could be preserved as art in 2000 yrs

    Dumb teenager
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *gasp* BORED PANDA WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??!! MY INNOCENCE WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS GROSS LACK OF CENSORSHIP!!!

    Sharkie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The bottom left one looks like he has headphones.

    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Marjorie Taylor Greene antecedent there on the upper left.

    Nikolaj Christensen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one in the lower left corner will give you an offer you cannot refuse!

    Patricia Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Faces (and other body parts) live in infamy forever.

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    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A madman attacked the sculpture with a hammer, causing not insignificant damage. It was afterward displayed in a side chapel with an iron gate across it, keeping vandals at bay. I haven't been to the Vatican lately, but I hope it's now being shown the way it is in this photo: where people can enjoy it

    Rebekah
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was there last month. It's behind glass (or something strong that appears to be glass) now.

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    Ash
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the pieta is a traditional favorite theme of art. so I bet they've got a LOT of pietas!

    Pyla
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    read up on how he positioned the body so that a small woman could hold a grown man. Bernini, greatness incarnate. Correcting for Michelangelo.

    ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My favorite sculpture I’ve ever seen. Mesmerizing

    Lorraine R
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Vatican sent it to New York City for display at the 1964-65 World's Fair. To see it, you would step onto a slowly moving walkway which carried you past the sculpture, which I believe was behind a shield of some kind.

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    the sixthgirl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read once that the toes of Mary were worn down slightly over time due to people kissing them.

    chrnh@metrocast.net
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw Michelangelo's Pieta at the Montreal Expo years ago. It was the most beautiful thing I have EVER seen. I think I went through the line 5 times.

    Paul Gerrard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its now behind a clear screen to limit damage

    Katie not Middleton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Normality is a paved road; it’s comfortable to walk but no flowers grow” Vincent Van Gogh

    marianne eliza
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a problem with the Pieta. Compare Mary's size and width, especially the legs, with Jesus' size, length and width. Not quite right, relatively. Sorry. It's something that bugs me every time I see it.

    Ash
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    lol It's true, but it was also done on purpose so the sculptor could put them in that physical position, and thus indicate a particular relationship between them (Mary as the Holy Mother who can cradle the afflicted).

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    Interestingly, the Vatican is also the country that has the highest wine consumption rate per capita in the world, as an average resident consumes 54.26 or 74 (depending on the information source) liters of wine every year. Well, with all of the masses in the country ruled by the head of the Catholic Church, it isn’t such a big surprise, is it? 

    On the other hand, back in the first century, a poet named Martial declared that the area around the Vatican produced some of the worst wines. We guess that they must have improved their wine recipes to become the state that consumes this drink the most since then.

    Another intriguing thing about the Vatican is that it contains a lot of religious and cultural sites, architecture, and artifacts. In fact, the Vatican is the only state that is in its entirety in UNESCO's List of World Heritage Sites.

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    Virgil Blue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These can actually be a bit out of the way ofvthevstandard tour when you visit, so be sure to seek them out.

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    Strahd Ivarius
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    looks tiny to me? ooooh, that snake ?!

    Kaedyn Walsh
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What blows my mind is you can tell the artist put more than just time into this. The DETAIL is astounding. Like the toes of all the men... The right guy, the artist even sculpted his wonky little toe on the foot closest to the giant. And the bends in the giants toes. Yeah I'm going over every tiniest bit of this sculpture and it's like these people had a thin liquid brushed over their entire bodies to render them 'paralyzed' and they were left forever in these positions.

    Lorraine R
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Laocoon (last "o" should have a tilde but I don't know how to do that, so, "Lay-AH-co-onn). He was a priest of some god or other and was punished for something he did by being strangled to death along with his two young sons.

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    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Baroque's borrowed heavily from the Hellenistic sensibilities. They seemed to enjoy extremis. I think it was a complete flowering of skills.

    AtMostAFabulist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It looks like there is a tongue sticking out between the legs of the middle guy.

    Tropical Tarot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those are the testicles and testicles will probably get censored just for being testicles.

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    John Murphy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    thats a lott of weiner for a single statue

    Lorraine R
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Would somebody please get the phone?"

    Yayheterogeneity
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents took me to see it when I was around 14 years old. I was interested in anything but not something hewn from marble. But this sculpture hit me hard. It was so divine. The snake, the bodies, the agony. I'll never forget it.

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    K- THULU
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, they like their statues of naked men and boys, don't they?

    For example, one of the best-known cultural sites in the Vatican is St. Peter's Basilica, under which one of the first leaders of the Catholic church, St. Peter himself, is buried. Some scholars suggest that he was crucified at the very same site, and to commemorate Emperor Constantine I, he decided to build a church. 

    Also, a very famous Vatican cultural site is the Sistine Chapel, and its ceiling, which took 4 years for Michelangelo to paint, is deemed one of the major artistic accomplishments of human civilization. 

    Besides these and some other famous cultural sites, within its walls, the Vatican holds many valuable treasures. Many examples can be seen in today’s list. For example, one of the rarest documents in history -- a papal letter of Martin Luther’s excommunication. It also holds Emperor Nero's 2000-year-old bathtub and other stuff that, in a way, can be viewed as artifacts that mark humanity’s rollercoaster of history. 

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    So, take a look at these artifacts, and don’t forget to upvote the ones that you found the most captivating!

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    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you mean translated greek. Old was written in Hebrew and Aramiac, greek is a translation, not the original

    Ash
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Correct. But New Testament was originally written in Greek. As for the "original Greek" Old Testament, they're probably referring to the Septuagint, translated from Hebrew into Greek by Egyptian Jews in the 200s BCE and in wide use in ancient times.

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    Patricia Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that the Priesthood went through periods of celibacy throughout its' history. Why the church decided on a period of time for priests to forever be celibate has more to do with church property and the priest's children, I believe. Even today if an Episcopal priest decides to become a Roman Catholic priest he may do so even if he has a family.

    Timbob
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where does that leave King James ?

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    Patricia Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love to see this and have it interpreted.

    V H
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't the interpretation already widely available in the Bible?

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    Jenni Howard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would like to see this as a flow chart transcribing it

    Tropical Tarot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think its demotic. Sort of a midway language between hieroglyphics and more modern alphabets.

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    Timbob
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well Pat, believe it or not, I can actually tell you the Lords Prayer.

    roddy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dare say it's changed somewhat in the interval.

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    Patricia Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You got me! I surely need to read next time. Duh!

    roddy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it would be interesting to compare the wording of these early versions to the versions we are familiar with today.

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    ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup! If I recall my catacombs tour correctly, his body got moved. If you’re touring, you can look at the original grave markings with low infrared light, but there’s a visible hallway reserved just for Cardinals that is where is remains are permanently. Don’t have to be religious to be blown away by the historical significance. Vatican City is literally centuries of layers building up right over St. Peter’s tomb. The original Vatican hill is very much visible. Really cool! I love art history & ancient history so I was giddy.

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    Paul Gerrard
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. Remains of StbPeter. The original chapel with his remains had a basilica constructed on it and that had the present basilica built on it. It is visible on the very limited scavi tour that must be pre booked months ahead. http://www.scavi.va/content/scavi/it.html It is a incredible tour. Strict rules !!

    Tucker Cahooter
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think they have mistranslated. It should be "Kilroy" not "Peter"

    Iyelatu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A worker named Peter signed it

    Jen Hart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, looks like quite a few people carved into the pic on the right 🧐

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    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Peter Pan? Peter Rabbit? Peter Pettigrew? Peter Parker?

    Nimitz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The greatest perpetrator of fraud in human history? The guy more responsible for spreading hatred and fear and death than anyone who ever lived? F**k that guy!

    Kelly H. Wilder
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Arguably, Paul is more responsible for modern Christianity than Peter.

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    Tamra
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The frescoes of Michelangelo? The Pieta?

    ERMAHGERD DINOSAURS
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    La Pieta was what popped into my head! I could stand there all day looking at it anytime in there.

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    Paul Gerrard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Papal dogs playing poker. Shhh. Its a secret

    Casey Payne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OH MY GOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE "THE INVISIBLE FARTING UNICORN". It's not supposed to exist, but there it is. If you can believe online photography these days. Amazing.

    Batwench
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably acquired them the same way as the British Museum 🥷

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    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because back then, even though he had many followers, no one would have thought to go around collecting bits and bobs of Jesus's life and death. Plus, crucifixion was such a commonplace form of execution that the cross they would have put him on likely got reused for multiple executions till it fell apart.

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    PattyK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “But isn’t this relic matter a little overdone? We find a piece of the true cross in every old church we go into, and some of the nails that held it together … I think we have seen as much as a keg of these nails.” Mark Twain, “The Innocents Abroad”

    Downunderdude
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the Vatican sold just one tenth of its treasures, imagine the poverty and misery that it could eliminate.

    Strahd Ivarius
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got enough fragments of the True Cross to make about 50 crosses.

    Jen Hart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I doubt they'd allow dendrochronologists to have a look

    Charlotte Sandoval
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you think that, you should see the extent of scientific work done on the Shroud of Turin. Catholics and science aren't nearly as opposed to each other as some have made out

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    Casey Payne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But are they real? Only a taste test can tell us the truth. Some brave soul is going to have go to it, and lick it.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sure there's been many a manky chunk of supposedly sanctified wood licked in the name of... Science.

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    iseefractals
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every single "artifact" relating to Jesus that the church has presented has been debunked. Humanity, has come a long, long way in the past 2000 years, yet each and every single day we watch untold numbers of people fall for the absolute dumbest things. Flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, Q-anon....hell "queers for Palestine" with zero awareness of how insane that support actually is, faith healers, mega churches, two faced politicians, that b***h Debra from accounting, MAGA and woke propaganda....so much blatant bullshot, devoured by the masses...yet somehow, so many seem to think that the people who lived 2000 years ago were immune to the self serving bullshot of a conman, which was than perpetuated by an organization to amass power. Stop buying it.

    Linda Riebel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why Catholics revere instruments of Jesus's torture instead of obeying his lessons on love and charity. Do you?

    Ambrosius
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My professor, a catholic priest, once told us that with all the relics of the cross that exist, one could make at least 3 crosses. I don't know if that's true, but I thought that was hilarious.

    Glenn Cuneo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like all religion: It's all pretend. Like that gold cross--- sure would house and feed a few hundred thousand homeless, but noooooooooooooo! "The Church" needs it.....

    der sebbl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    think you overestimate the worth of that cross

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    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We can't access this stuff. It's not for us they have it.

    Lee Henderson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We can't but I am sure scholars have access to it.

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    G A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not praising the Catholic Church, or any other religion, due to their bloody histories. They far outweigh any good they have ever done.

    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They must make it accessible to scholars. It would be great if it were scanned online.

    Terran
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As many seem to misunderstand what is said here: a lot of knowledge of the classical World is available at all, because of the church's preservation efforts over the centuries.

    Timbob
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buy it’s not available to us, is it ?

    Lorraine R
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, because "we" are, for the most part, idiots who would mishandle and damage these irreplaceable objects.

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    Pedantic Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Preservation = hoarding. If they sold half of this stuff they could help a lot of people.

    Casey Payne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Preservation = preservation. Why do you think this is still around today? Because no one sold it on the cheap to the highest bidder to resolve whatever was happening at the time. This isn't a senile grandparent hoarding toilet paper. This is the Vatican holding western civilization together for a thousand years or so.

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    La Lucy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you go to Rome, you can book a tour to see these. The Scavi tour has to be booked directly with the Vatican, and usually 6 months, minimum, ahead of time. It is amazing.

    Paul Gerrard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    http://www.scavi.va/content/scavi/it.html The most amazing tour. Involves preplanning and prompt attendance. No cameras and no checked bags. Bring a camera or phone and you wont enter

    Pedantic Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are Peter and on this rock I shall build my church.

    Apatheist Account2
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of his apostles? He was the first Pope.

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    Hippopotamuses
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely necessary. There's nothing at all to indicate scale.

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    UpupaEpops
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The doors are over 2000 years old and each weigh 800 kg (1763 lbs) with a height measuring 7 meters. It's so well built that despite its sheer size, it takes just one person to open it.

    der sebbl
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lateran, a Roman neighbourhood. Nothing to do with Luther

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    RabidChild
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Precise spot of what, exactly?

    Who? Me?
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm assuming the tomb of St. Peter. --- --- --- Rising above the altar is the baldacchino (95ft. canopy), Bernini's masterpiece and first work in St. Peter's. The ancient tomb of St. Peter lies directly below the altar.

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    Paul Gerrard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take the scavi tour and you can look up through several levels through the public crypt and to that structure. I guarantee its above the remains of st peter. I saw it. http://www.scavi.va/content/scavi/it.html

    Casey Payne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope these made sense in their original order.

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    Hiram's Friend
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When we visited the Sistine Chapel, it was wall to wall Chinese. There were two clergy whose sole job it was to try to hush them, over and over and over.

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    AtMostAFabulist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That looks like a 2000 year old bathtub there.

    Blue Mar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because it is, worth bilion by the way 😺

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    Missy VanWinkle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The church sure does own a lot or sculptures of naked people

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    Nicole Weymann
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, I agree. Baroque is not my favourite, either. Too opulent for me.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And apparently the only 60-70 year old guy ever to die in Italy.

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    AtMostAFabulist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What hole? Details are sorely lacking in these posts. 🤨

    Herkfixer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It seems they were likely in reading order originally and BP mixed them all up.

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    Foxglove🇮🇪
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But did they carbon date them? And if so, did they release the results?

    Caroline Nagel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are not reading all these in order... 😀

    Joanne Earle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too bad they couldn't find, and run, DNA.

    roddy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That rules out so many people.

    Sonia J-Coffee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's my face when I see news about JLO/Ben Affleck and the Bidens

    Cammy Mack
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The apostle Peter. There is no provision in the Bible for anyone to be called a "saint". Catholic poppycock.

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    Max Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of COURSE it's real, because its OLD. Never mind that is was "gifted" some 670 years after the crucifixion, but it's OLD, so it MUST be real! So. Much.Bull$hit.

    Maggie Fulton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And an emperor! Surely you can trust everything from an emperor!

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    G A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No more likely than the splinter I dug out of Aunt F***y's big toe.

    PattyK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See quote above from Mark Twain.