Toxic Masculinity Deems These 30 Normal And Healthy Behaviors ‘Unmanly,’ Yet People Online Think Otherwise
Any grownup should have a wide range of skills at their beck and call. Everyone should know how to take care of themselves and their loved ones, whether it’s just another mundane day or an actual emergency. Stuff like knowing how to sew on a button, cooking a meal that’s more sophisticated than making cereal, taking care of your verdant garden (and what not to do, say, if you come across a bear).
Unfortunately, some people still divide up some activities and behaviors according to gender, based on some pretty ambiguous assumptions. This idea sparked a discussion online after redditor u/international_red07 asked everyone to share some “unmanly” things that are actually the opposite. Scroll down to read what people had to say about this.

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I have a beard that would make sasquatch jealous. I like scotch whiskey, Dominican cigars, and American motorcycles. I worked most of my adult life as an ironworker. But none of that is the manly part:
When my daughter was 3 to about 6 or 7, it was common for me to go to work with my nails painted every color of the rainbow.
Letting your little girl paint your nails is manly as f**k, gentlemen.
Charles Bronson happily let his daughter paint his toenails, and wandered around in sandals, not caring a cuss what anyone thought of his with flowers on his toes. If it's good enough for one of the Magnificent Seven, the Great Escapers, and the Dirty Dozen, it's good enough for you.
My bro dude came to work with black nails one day...I asked how he smashed them and he was like, "naw man, my daughter painted them". I told him he needs to get her some more colors so it doesn't look like his fingertips are necrotic.
I like painting my nails black.. I'm running out of black nail paint tho
Load More Replies...I refuse to do it because they're huge pain to clean. But i let my daughter braid my hair and put all kinds of rainbow unicorn heart hair clips.
Manly AF just the same! When I was little, my poppo wouldn't let me paint his nails either (quite frankly, I was pretty bad at it), but he was also a huge, mountain of a man (people called him Paul Bunyan) that frequently had rainbow barrettes in his hair, or glittery heart stickers all over his face, & he always RSVP'd for " dolly teatime" 😁 My dad passed away, but I remember & cherish every moment❤️❤️ It counts 100%
Load More Replies...My dad, blokiest bloke around. Grew up rough in the bush, ex army, smoked, drinks, loves to swear, and has a big bushy beard. He will happily let me paint his nails. One year he was working in a school and the school play was Cinderella. The person playing the fairy godmother broke their leg so my dad got dressed up in a tutu, wig, and glittery make-up. Had the whole school in stitches bc he was so adorable.
I'm an ironworker too, the best guys to work with are the guys that value and love their family.
Supporting women's rights. Real men don't need to control women.
The idea of controling another human being is disgusting in any form
Some conservatives appear to still be clinging to the idea of women as property.
Load More Replies...Until we start having babies, we will never understand just how horrible the b******t Republican agenda effects women. You're ghat damn right women deserve equal rights.
I've heard that a real man likes submissive women. My take is that only liking submissive women means you aren't man enough to partner with a strong woman
Women’s right are human rights. But I guess a lot of men don’t care about us.
Real men know that they don't really benefit from women not reaching their potential.
I get the impression sometimes that those 'supporting women's rights' don't actually
I love this standing up for people is hard and therefore “manly” whatever the heck that’s supposed to mean women are tougher
If someone tells you something is “unmanly”, tell them a real man would be secure enough in their manliness to not give a s**t what they think.
"It's not for men ? Well, i'm a man and i'm doing it, what else do you need for it to be manly ?"
... balls and a rectractable conncetion device attached between its legs?
Load More Replies...I always do. Once had someone tell me that they were going to "Revoke my Man Card" for playing a cat video game on my phone. I told him to GOLF-FOXTROT-YANKEE and SIERRA-TANGO-FOXTROT-UNIFORM. Then I said "I do not need, want, or seek your approval." "And I also outrank you. "
🎶Confident in my sex-u-alitaaay🎵 omg this stupid song is stuck in my head now!
Dave C once told me that nothing else is more gangster than chopping off your d**k, then take one up your butt. I mean do you have the courage to do those? I'm not gonna like I'm too chicken to even consider them.
It’s really peculiar to realize that some everyday tasks get stuck with labels like “manly” or “unmanly.” We’re talking about basic skills that help someone be self-sufficient.
Everyone needs to eat, so you’d better learn how to cook and bake. You might need to mend your clothes, so knowing how to use a needle-and-thread simply makes sense. Who doesn’t enjoy watching their vegetable garden thrive? And why should someone’s gender determine whether or not they should like singing or dancing as a hobby? Someone’s gender doesn’t come into it—these are all very human things to do.
Ordering a fruity drink.
“A real man orders a beer!”
No, a real man orders whatever the f**k he wants.
I simply dislike the taste of liquor, that's all. When I was young and feisty and people tried to make me drink alcohol, I'd stand up and say, Let's fight, if you win, I'll drink. Sadly, nobody took me up on it.
Why would you drink beer when you can have a Strawberry Margarita?
Because beer is delicious in its own right. That said, not everyone thinks so. And a margarita for me please! (With freshly squeezed lime on the rocks. Not that lime flavored slush.)
Load More Replies..."A real man drinks beer." As they suckle on yet another Busch Light, because Bud Light Lime is a little "heady" for them.
I love that my husband is comfortable enough to order a pinacolada. He just does it at the most awkward times when he had no chance of getting it. Like at a random Ethiopian restaurant. Like, aawww it's so cute you want one and are secure enough to order, but look around
And then there are people who opt not to drink. Leave them alone. You don't know why they're not drinking. They probably have seen their loved ones' lives destroyed by alcoholism. They're probably a recovering alcoholic themselves. They probably just don't like the taste of alcohol. If a person, regardless of their gender, makes the decision to not drink, it's a decision, and leave them alone about it.
Alcohol content of a beer : 5%... Alcohol content of a pina colada : 13%.... WHO'S THE MAN NOW B*TCH?
When I was a kid I was once at a clothing store and I saw a pink men’s shirt. I said out loud “what kind of men wear pink shirts???” and my mom said “secure men”. For some reason that always stuck with me.
The clothes don't wear the man, the man wears the clothes. And this man rocks the hell out of pink.
IIrc (some internet dude will double check my work, I'm sure) pink was traditionally a boy color but somewhere in the early-mid 1900's that changed on a fad
I checked your work. You're good. Also Brandon is correct, blue was considered a feminine color because it's calming.
Load More Replies...Tell your Mom I salute her. Besides, one of my best clothes is a pink Kurta( oversized shirt on India and Pakistan).
My only problem with pink is that I think it doesn't suit me. But hey, wear what you want
X-Men's Gambit? Yeah. Also, no other colour suits his personality and flair. He tried a street thug outfit once. I know it's practical, but I'm not gonna enjoy Gambit till he shows up in a magenta armour and big a*s boots.
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"NOTHING IS MORE BADASS THAN TREATING A WOMAN WITH RESPECT"
-MR. TORGUE
At first I read this as Mr. Tongue and was going to up vote just on that 🤣🤣
I really appreciate the sentiment. The sad thing about this is treating women with respect shouldn’t be badass.
agreed i wish all men would understand that we are all made in Gods image men AND women
Not sure why this got downvoted, respect should just be common practice by mature adults, if earned.
Load More Replies...When you start attaching gender to these activities and skills, you end up making everyone less independent. At the same time, you put people under a lot of pressure to ‘conform’ to how their social circle or culture views masculinity and femininity. Now imagine the stress someone has to deal with when they’re faced with entirely different cultural expectations when they move somewhere else or join a new social circle.
Objectively, boiling an egg (cooking) isn’t manly or unmanly. Neither is moving your feet (dancing), using your vocal cords (singing), or watering flora (gardening). However, our surroundings, family, and upbringing shape how we perceive these activities.
I had guys tell me it's unmanly to use/carry an umbrella.
Those wet, insecure bastards can go screw themselves!
I grew up on the west coast of Ireland where it would rain 18 days a week. Often your coat and a hat was your only protection (Too windy for an umbrella) and I was used to it. When I moved to England I got to use an umbrella without taking flight and I LOVED it! I now make sure I always have 3 umbrellas, one at work, one at home and one in my car! I even love those little ones you get in cocktails!
Those cocktail umbrellas are indeed fantabulous.
Load More Replies...I don't use umbrella because I'm still wet even when using them. Real men use Paddington bear raincoat, yes including the hat!!!
yeah, screw themselves with an umbrella! how is it unmanly to not get wet?
Tell them it's really a sword stick, and they're messing with your Second Amendment rights! (Masculinity gatekeepers are usually also big on gun rights. Mmm. Wonder why.)
Being an attentive and involved father. I can change a diaper one handed and I'm proud of that fact.
Let's give a shout out to all the fathers who don't call spending time with their kids "babysitting"!! 🙌🙌
My diaper job is pretty lousy. BUT GODAM I'M A PROUD DAD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM MESSY / LOOSE DIAPER JOBS.
When my brother was a child my mother used to send him to my father to get his clothes changed or feed him something and so on(if she was busy or didn't feel like doing anything). I remember my aunts making fun of my mother how she is forcing my father to do things that are mother's duties.
It's a skill parents get, I guess. Idk how. My mom can do it. She could probably do two kids at the same time if she needed to.😂
Load More Replies...It's just poop swipe time, not really pleasent, and then they want to know which planet their on.
I saw a post about a dad losing his mind because his son, who was like three, was playing with a baby doll, saying he "didn't need to learn those things". In other words, that he doesn't need to know how to take care of a child. I feel nothing but pity for fathers who brag about never changing a diaper or feeding their kids and leaving it all to the mother/girlfriend/grandparents.
Reflection and apologizing when you're wrong.
A solid point denoting that toxic masculinity is dehumanizing.
Load More Replies...That's not even manly. That's just f*****g humane. As a man, I'm offended that this even need to be said.
This has little to do with men or women. Any gender can lack the ability to apologize. For my wife won't do it, her mother won't either. They both brag about not saying they're sorry. I will apologize to the bed when I stub my toe.
my respect for someone goes up when they admit if they were wrong
If you are to proud to admit a mistake, a wrong you did. Maybe, you need to re- think some things. IMO
According to a 2006 study done by The Pennsylvania State University, the social rules of gender continue to play “a prominent role” in leisure activities like sports. The researchers found that “girls experience greater social latitude in their sport participation than boys.” In other words, society sees it as more acceptable for women to participate in masculine activities than the reverse.
“Girls and women are at less risk for gender stigma if they pursue masculine activities than boys and men if they pursue feminine activities. This may be due to a higher social value and status assigned to masculine activities and the efforts on the part of girls and women to gain respect by achieving in a traditionally masculine field,” they write.
Broadly speaking, boys and men who stray from masculine norms raise questions about their masculinity. So they have less flexibility when it comes to participating in “unmanly” sports and recreational activities.
Sewing. When you're stuck on a boat in the Pacific during WWII, you'd better know how to stich up your own uniform. Source: both of my grandfathers.
Amen. My husband's mom was a seamstress so she taught him and his brother how to sew. I had a hard time making a pillow case in sewing class.
Load More Replies...I can do basic...very basic things. Sew in a button, repair a rip well enough to get by...but actually making something, I never learned how.
Those basic things are excellent skills to know.
Load More Replies...I wish my husband knew how to sew because my Mum tried to teach to, my home ec teacher tried to teach me and I frankly suck at it. I can just about sew a button (poorly) but if there's a tear I'd be better off stapling it. It's not a skill that comes with gender it's fine motor skills that are needed. Tellingly my handwriting is also terrible despite writing a lot of stories as a kid. My hands don't do as my brain tells them.
Learned on a singer. So patches on mine and other soldiers uniforms just hand stiched. really not that hard.
My maternal grandmother taught not only my mom and aunt how to cook, clean, wash clothes, iron and sew, she also taught both of my uncles to do the same. My uncle who lives in NYC, likes to brag that he can sew better than my aunt 🤣
I love growing flowers, sewing, cooking, baking, and other activities that are viewed by some as "girly" activities. I also love traditionally manly things like fishing, building furniture, mowing my lawn, etc.
A long time ago I was upset by some of my friends ribbing me for liking to do "girly" things. My dad handled this by teaching me that the manliest thing a man can do is "whatever the hell he wants".
These are some of the best stress-relief activities. I pity those who do none of it
Some of these work for me when i am stressed or feeling low and helped me especially during the pandemic. I can't garden though. This guy is lucky that he can do it all.
Load More Replies...There are no girl or boy toys or girl or boy activities. They’re just toys and activities.
The only thing i bake are brownies. I don't really have the patience for it. I love to cook though. But I'm usually eating while I'm cooking. I'm a bit of a brown thumb. I try to garden, but it rarely works out.
Cue Aragorn singing at his own coronation with flower petals falling around him. One of the manliest things ever.
In this time of hardships and economical fading? At the dusk of the world as we've known it? Those are survival skills!
Buying feminine products for your SO. I have no shame buying tampons or pads when I do the grocery shopping, which is always. Men that get all embarrassed or won’t do it are the “unmanly” ones.
Or make a mental note of what's in the bathroom or these days take a picture of the box and save it. I know exactly what colors to buy.
Load More Replies...I never understood this. Never. Even when I was young and more stupid. Buying feminine products means you have a woman who you're sleeping with more than likely. I think it's just incels who are jealous who make these things up.
I actually had a group of guy friends go buy me pads because I was so sick at home I couldn’t bring myself to go buy them when I was about 17. And these were some “manly” teenage boys who I was having to deprogram from some sexist attitudes they had learned, but they all went out and bought me like 6-8 packs of different pads and tampons without shame, and chocolate and soda because “they heard it helps.” I lost contact with them a while ago, but I think about things like that in our friendship often and hope they’re doing okay.
Load More Replies...Nothing embarrassing about it. Women who are there already know that you're buying it for your wife or girl. It's only embarrassing if you're secretly planning to wear them yourself.
I mean, if that's your thing you don't have to be embarrassed about that either. Not to mention that some men menstruate.
Load More Replies...Being flabbergasted at the store with the inhuman amount of choice I asked a passing woman which tri-wing ultra normal with sticky patch my girlfriend might possibly mean. She knew. I thanked her. Totally normal conversation between adults.
honestly the only issue i have with this is: tell me exactly what one you want me to get. just that there are so many options and varieties that i have no idea which is the one you want me to get. not going to gamble on something that important
go to the storage area and take pics of what she has. then you know
Load More Replies...I'm a woman and back when I still had a period I would still cringe a bit when I had to buy feminine products. Just the way I was from 12 to about 50.
Trust me when I say that no one will think you're buying them for yourself.
Ahem, that one was asked/positioned by a pimply insecure teenager who never closely seen a woman in its life, let alone loved one. Grow up, be a man, take care of your loved one!
Many of these issues are rooted in social expectations. To oversimplify things a bit, men are expected to never be perceived as vulnerable, weak, or soft. They’re also pushed to be aggressive and competitive. These are traits that some interpret to be examples of toxic masculinity.
Healthy masculinity, on the other hand, is exemplified by self-reflection, embracing emotions (whatever they might be) instead of repressing them, and being comfortable with having one’s opinions challenged.
I heard cooking for your family labeled as unmanly due to men wearing an apron around a gas stove, by the same people who grill for their family while wearing an apron around a gas grill.
I like cooking for my family, there are even some dishes my wife won't cook because they are my speciality :-)
I wear an apron, because I have 4 dogs and live on a farm. Got to have something clean between me and the food!
Cooking for your family is unmanly? Who came up with this b******t? Majority of professional chefs are male.
Y'all saw Disney's "Turning Red"? I want to put "Looking for my Jin" on my dating profile. I shall. Dude wears a flower apron and takes passion in cooking his meals because he likes it and you gotta respect that.
If anything is unmanly, it is a gas grill. Charcoal all the way! Besides, you can recycle old, unnecessary bits of wood into it.
My mom always did the grilling. While my father can cook and is very good at it, he really doesn't have a talent for grilling. Ten years after the divorce his results became okay, still no where near my mother's skills though.
Pfff i looove food and i love to cook, maybe even better then my gf (she is a gread baker). No excuse for that
Most of you know how to cook most of the time,male or female. It's about whoever holds the knife 🔪.at the time .work together.
My friends were amazed at how I "allowed" some drunk guy talk to my girlfriend for like 10 minutes at a festival. Bro, why the f**k would I care, she didn't seem distressed and enjoyed the conversation and I'm not insecure. She'd tell me/let me know if she was uncomfortable and needed help. I don't feel threatened, I have nothing to proof and my girlfriend is not some possesion I need to protect from other men. Going up to the guy and doing whatever just makes you seem to radiate insecurity to me. Not manliness.
I was at my local pub, and a woman came in with her guy friend (I didn't make assumptions about their relationship). I loved her tattoos and wanted to compliment her on them. I checked with both her guy friend and her if either one minded. Neither did.
Why did you have to check with her guy friend? Even if he was her boyfriend you would not need his permission to give her a compliment if it was okay with her
Load More Replies...I had a girlfriend once who was a bartender. She would flirt with the guys and make really good tips. I don't mind because, hey, she's going home with me!
It is very offensive when a man feels the need to interfere in a woman’s conversation or activities. We are quite capable of every day activity without help. So, good for you.👍🏻👍🏻❤️
Sorry but if some one insults my wife, I'm going to do something about it. Doesn't mean violence, but still.
Yes, just when I find somebody interesting to talk to at a party, and some pissed off dude charges at me, it's very annoying.
It's just a normal conversation you can meet all sorts of good people at these events seeing as you obviously have the same taste, If my partner wanted to talk to someone go ahead, it's not unhealthy and you don't have to spend every second of an event with someone partner or not.
Load More Replies...Holding your friends accountable and calling them out when they’re being a d**k towards women or just in general.
My partner called out one of his friends for making racist jokes with a group of buddies. Not sure if the friendship is the same but damn, am I proud of him. That kind of conviction is hot as hell.
I mean I'll call them out like "bro that's f****d up, if you're continuing, I don't want anything to do with it". But i ain't gonna go full batman and bring them to justice or whatever. Let's be real, we men are pretty p**s poor at sticking our noses on anyone's business, and that's considered a gentlemanly behavior.
True, they participate in rape and pedophilia jokes too.
Load More Replies...This needs to be upvoted so much more! This is the only way to stop men treating women badly!
Been there. Separate the antagonists .yea sure.talk,if possible.third time, if things aren't resolved.
Talking to cats in a cute voice.
nope. in my years of being a queen to the tiny fur babies, corgis act like cats and I am allies with the cat kingdom, the fur on their body causes a allergic reaction that everyone has, causing the vocal cords to tighten and you talk like a baby. Its science man.
Load More Replies...There is nothing more attractive than a man who gets a little goofy around small animals and small children.
Probably your pronunciation wasn't right. They're so subtle, cats. Been there, done that. Caught a lot of bewildered stares: my hooman biped, what the heck are you talking about? I miss my cat talk, pity she's chasing her rainbows.
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Hygiene and cleanliness. I live on my own and I love having a clean and neat house.
For the disbelieving replies on this post, men who openly cared about hygiene and cleanliness used to be scorned even more than they are now by their rednecked brethren. Before the 'aughts and the term Metrosexual came into use, males were shamed for taking care of themselves. The show became a joke, but society really does owe thanks to Queer Eye For the Straight Guy to bringing these concepts into the open.
Ill take a "girly" man anyday..a.clean apartment speaks volumes to a woman
So having a home that is never vacuumed, dusted and mopped and having a kitchen filled with filthy dishes with rotting moldy food in them is 'manly'?
Same. I clean at least every week, cannot stand dust bunnies or streaky floor. And bathroom has to be sparkling clean!
I've lived on my own for 10 years now and the only way I get a clean house is b/c I hired someone to clean it
Wearing sunscreen. Nothing looks dumber than a guy who’s so afraid to seem “girly” that he gets turned into a lobster.
Skin cancer isn't pretty. I know a few people who have had this. Sometimes people go to the doctor because they have a sore or a cut from shaving that just won’t heal, which turns out to be a basal cell cancer. Use sunscreen - even if you tan easily.
And it can be sneaky. My deceased husband was a sufferer of adult acne. He had what looked a blackhead on his nose for a bit. His sister, who worked for the same medical office for over 30 years, told him to have it checked. That bitty little blackhead turned out to be skin cancer. He had a big nose; after the second surgery to get rid of it left him with a quarter sized divot in said big nose. Skin cancer is sneaky
Load More Replies...That's excellent. Sadly I have been a couple of times. Though for those who might not know (and I'm definitely not saying this is you as you sound like you've been very sensible) tanning at any age can cause permanent and irreversible skin damage and increase the risk of skin cancer, so even if a person doesn't burn they can still be at risk sadly.
Load More Replies...Oh man, my pasty pale self will burn in 2. 35 nanoseconds and never turn dark.
Load More Replies...According to Jersey Shore, GTL is the manliest thing to do. Bet they all have skin cancer now...wonder how sexy that looks. And wow never thought I'd start a sentence with 'according to Jersey Shore...'
girly? dont be stupid. at the slightest hint of sunshine i slap on the factor 50, for the simple reason it isnt practical to carry a small brick wall around with me!
Being gay. I mean u are a man and you like man's. What could be more manly
tbf an awful lot of straights man only seek male endorsement. Kinda gay to f**k with women so your bros notice you.
Dave C once told me that there's nothing more gangster than having a d**k up your a*s 🤣 I'll fully admit that I'm too chicken for that.
I've always been amused by some virile het guy being described as a "man's man". If a "lady's man" is a male very attracted to women, then a "man's man" would be attracted to ... ?
man to man s3x is manlier than man and woman s3x because there are more men doing it in the first case
Steve Hughes did a good bit on this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tODdMKd0YkQ
Ballet. Those dudes are strong!
Several football coaches make their players take ballet. The flexibility, core strength, and leg strength ballet does for men is ridiculous.
My football coach made all the players take dancing lessons
Load More Replies...Mikhail Baryshnikov, who has been romantically linked with many beautiful women over the years.
Load More Replies...In the Old French Regim, it was mandatory for aristocratic boys to learn ballet. Strength, balance, absolute control of their bodies. All preparation for combat training.
I think guys doing Ballet and Gymnastics are one of the strongest people out there
You have to lift the other dancers and throw them a quarter length of the stage.
I’ve always been more attracted to “manly” but smart and funny. I was dating an honorably discharged marine who is now a pastry chef for maybe 2 weeks when I mentioned he’s the best of both worlds. He’s manly and strong but also smart and gentle. His response: “I know. I built this narrative.” Known each other for 14yrs, dated for 7, married for 5. Absolutely in love.
Semper Fi! That includes faithfulness to himself as well as loved ones and comrades.
This post illustrates how much we think in stereotypes, even if you think you're not. "Manly and strong BUT also smart and gentle." Which implies it isn't naturally manly to be smart and/or gentle. These subtle ways we use language betray us. - But sounds like a lovely man, I'm happy for you!
Cooking, cleaning, folding laundry, being good with kids, being patient, crying, hugging your good guy friends
My dad fought WW2 all over Europe, India and Egypt for 6 years. I was born in 1948 and he always cooked, cleaned and did laundry right up until the day he died. That’s my idea of a real man. He loved his kids and kittens too and was never, ever violent in any way.❤️
Dear Lesley, my Grandad was bombing the Nazis since 1941. I am a post-that-war child. My Grand (I called him so) was a kind and generous, but total s**t in the kitchen. But he loved to cook for the family, especially on occasions when some distant relatives would turn up. My Grandma would silently slip into the kitchen and correct his mistakes. I understood that only when grew older. His desire to do, her desire to not let him down, guests happy, etc. He was braving the kitchen the same way he was braving night flights over Nazis in WWII. Manly enough for the kitchen?
Load More Replies...F**k whoever thought these stuff aren't manly enough that it needs to be said. I do all these s**t everyday.
But,can you fold a fitted sheet? To help with the Laundry! Priceless!!
Yes! We need to normalize crying! Also off subject but the roof of my mouth is raw because i ate way to many salt and vinegar chips 😢
When my dad was a kid, a bully told him to meet him after school for a beating. Dad simply never showed up and went directly home instead.
That's what most normal people would do, Isn't it? I mean fully knowing that you'll probably gonna get beat up, would you come? I know I won't. Loosing face because you didn't show up is about the same as loosing face because you got beaten up. Might as well pick the one that hurts less.
ya like "bye mom be home in a bit" "where are you going?" "oh meeting a bully for a beating" i don't think anyone would do that... (pls don't down vote)
Load More Replies...A girl when I was in high school “invited” me to a fight after school. I’m not quite 5’ tall and at that time, well under 100 lbs. I knew she’d bring her posse, so I collected some friends of mine. Crystal was 6’ and a Nordic goddess. Viola was 6’ and a coffee colored genuine Voodoo Priestess. So i showed up to the fight my posse, my friends just stood behind me about shoulder blade in. Girl who invited me? She and her posse took one look at mine….and bolted. The three of us laughed our a$$es off!
Without a reason for meeting- like being threatened- wtf is the point?
had something like this happen. I got onto a very bad online fight, as in the guy sayed a slur, and he wanted to beat me up on the field. I was only 5' at the time. I just left. Moved to another school, but still scared as f**k from all the kids at my old school. edit: details
Waited till midnight, friends already left. Had to deal with it in the locker room next day.
Snapped him with a wet towel, all right I'm laughing.
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Being there for your kids
AWWWWWW hugs to you honey...said a little prayer for you <3
Load More Replies...This is a real winner. It is sooooo easy for some men just to leave everything to the woman. Then they wonder why she is so overwhelmed and call her weak because she’s a woman. I have no respect for men like that. None at all!
WHY THE F**K IS THIS ON THE LIST?!?!?! I'm so furious right now. Being there for your kinds isn't manly, that's YOUR FRIGGIN OBLIGATION!!!!!
A lot of men think it’s “girly” to be a dad. My dad included
Load More Replies...Crying; men can have feelings, too!
Seeing a man cry, when he's in pain. Physically or emotionally. That's the sign of a Real man
A reminder: boys don't cry is recent. Odysseus wept, so did Achilles, Lancelot and king David. How very unmanly...
"Feelings" is taking it too far. I even cried when captain summons mjolnir. I cry when i want.
Cry when you want. I work in a male-dominated profession (construction and engineering). Men cry. Sometimes it's just a way to process things and then you move forward. And I've seen my grandfather battle Alzheimer's in his final years and cry in his moments of lucidity when he recognizes you. I won't ever forget that. That's joy and I'm glad he was happy in those moments.
Walking away from a physical fight, instead of getting involved/the whole “I could put you in hospital but I won’t” nonsense. A true “alpha”, if you must use that word, doesn’t need to assert his dominance like that.
Except for my brothers, I’ve never been in a physical fight. A little proud of that.
Load More Replies...Well, this man will never back down, take the high road, or let bygones be bygones if you're being an abusive a*****e to a woman, child, or animal. I will absolutely beat the breaks of another man for doing so.Then I'll call the cops. 😉
Or you could call the cops immediately and not play judge and jury. I appreciate the sentiment, but meeting violence with violence rarely solves anything.
Load More Replies...bonus points: dragging a drunken friend away from a fight. sometimes people need help with clear thinking, especially where alcohol is involved.
Many words here, many. Most of them asserting their alphas. Ancient Chinese sage said: the best battle is that which never was. Think of it. For the advanced the other side if the advance: A clever person would try to think, foresee, solve, avoid the problem. An idiot will rush with fists. Look at Putin.
I walk away even from verbal arguments, just keep going and ignore whoever is shouting at me.
Easiest way to tell a male is not "alpha": They refer to themselves as "alpha".
Or they feel like they simply *have* to challenge anything with a pulse to a fight, in order to prove one point or another.
Load More Replies..."the mother of the one who left has never mourned" goes a saying in Greece.
Gardening. I've also been called a homosexual by multiple other guys for saying I like gardening.
I'm always amazed how homophobes can't tell the difference between "gay", "not manly" and "feminine".
Let me explain. They are all treated as deviations from the heterosexual masculine ideal by homophobes.
Load More Replies...Come on dudes. Do you think only women grow your weed? Of course not!
I love gardening! I'm about 2 weeks away from harvesting some awesome looking cannabis.
gardening is gay? i thought it was when you got your cöck in another man's äss :) (credit to Steve Hughes for that one)
Dude: "Hello, I'm Jake, and I'm gay with a rake." I would subscribe to his gardening channel so fast and I'm not even a homeowner and my houseplants race each other to wither.
Tell them you plant rutabagas. No one actually knows what they are, but they sound so damn butch.
Taking care of your skin. I hate how some of the guys I work with and serve with (I'm in the army) give me s**t for using products for my face and skin. But they also wonder why I get told I look like I'm 25 even though I'm almost 36. Because I take care of my body.
Personally, I only use a special type of cream as an aftershave, but if a guy told me he used multiple skin care products, I wouldn't care either way. Use an angle grinder if you like. I still don't care.
If you have long hair use conditioner. Somehow that got labeled as "girlie". Knots and split ends are not attractive in anyone. Just don't touch my expensive stuff, get your own
Humans have skin. Taking care of it is being human. I have seen some men get mani-pedis and relax on a spa day and I can respect that. Do you.
You will never truly know a person if you only judge them by their looks.
I've seen that kind of relentless teasing attitude take a real toll on some friendships.
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Men ,if you're daughter wants you to wear a tutu,and tiaras. Go for it! She will remember that for ever,!!
I'll have tea party with myself. There's nothing wrong with sipping a nice tea and some crackers.
Respecting boundaries.
Reacting graciously when a gay man makes a pass at you.
So *manly" men are supposed to what? punch 'em in the face?? Do you have any idea how much time gay men spend at the gym?! We'd all get our asses kicked!
I don't think our asses would be necessarily kicked... (It's a joke people)
Load More Replies...I went to a gay club with my friend that had recently come out, he wasn't yet part of the gay community so didn't want to go alone. When a stranger bought me a drink, I had never felt so flattered. My brain just said 'I must look really good if I'm attracting men!'
it's very flattering, least for me. we guys don't get many compliments so when we do, it means the world
Standing up for women’s rights or telling your friends not to make sexist jokes. “The guys” will make fun of you, call you a wuss, and the added social pressure tries to keep you in line. But the Manly thing is to face that pressure even though it’s uncomfortable and stand up for what you know if right.
I used to have "friends" that called me gay simply because I refused to cat call
As i said in the other post, I'll call out distasteful jokes, but i ain't gonna go full batman and bring them to justice or whatever. If they're making fun of women in front of an actual woman, sure I'll stand up for them. But if it's just for the sake of being a woke person or some sjw, hell naw. Saving your own skin from unnecessary social pressure is manly too. Or just leave them and find better friends.
If you don't have the same principles all the time, you really don't have those principles, do you?
Load More Replies...Recognizing that we all need some help sometimes and both helping other people and accepting help yourself. Kindness is manly af
So don't bite a man's head off for opening the door for you or thinking a guy is a creep for helping you carry something. Otherwise do it yourself
being a gentleman: polite, courteous, respectful, tactful, manners, some style, some sophistication, educated (you don't need your masters from an Ivy league, but just being well read is enough sometimes), friendly. Far too many guys I see think it's still cool to be rude, lazy, unkempt, and stupid.
Being a nice guy. There’s nothing manly about being an a*****e.
I'm a proud Southerner; a Southern boy from South Carolina. I'll tell you right now this is b******t. The (colloquial, NOT the graphic South. HUGE difference. Florida is NOT apart of the colloquial South) South has some of the biggest and manliest guys in the country and I'm telling you right now, 98% of us are raised to be kind, considerate, respectful, and an overall nice guy. We have manners and call all women we meet 'Ma'am', and all men 'Sir'. We're nice guys and we're pretty damn proud of it.
No no no. That's not what this means. Nice guy like the fedora wearing weeaboo who thinks being nice to a girl is a punch card to have sex. As in " ma'lady your evil Chad boyfriend is not nice to you. I will treat you as a queen as i am a nice guy". Think stereotypical neckbeards. They don't mean actual polite people
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Going to the doctor
I've never been on my own 🥴. I'm far too nervous to even make the phone call
Sadly, I still have a farmers mentality one this one. 'If it's still attached, and I can still move around, I'm fine'.
This needs to be edited to exclude the US because of the outrageous cost.
Sadly not getting preventative care has caused a real decrease in mens health
I had to make my husband go but now he just makes and keeps his appointments on his own.
Moaning
Amen... Now where'd I put my colostomy bag?
Load More Replies...Ironically, Bored Panda has picked a photo representing a situation where men of all opinions consider loud moaning to be both appropriate and desirable.
Depends on what you are doing, what the moans are for. Just saying.
Load More Replies...Uhhh... I feel like they didn't ask the right group of men for this one. The non virgin men would heavily beg to differ.
So people kind just expect the women to f**k bricks with d***s? I mean sure if you're in porn, you should shut the f**k up, bro. But as we mature men already realize, life ain't porn.
Long hair, if you were in ancient times and saw a guy with long hair, that means he survived many battles for it to get to such a length.
Metal band dudes always has cool long hair, and it's really manly. I don't like men having a short hair.
Disagree. Yes many do but plenty don't. Plus so many are not in metal bands. I had long hair for years. Enjoyed it at the time but now I #5 it. Not having to deal with brushing it and all the maintenance required (as a woman i suspect you know) is wonderful. I also save a ton on shampoo. Again i think this goes back to the 'real men do what they want ' post from above. I'm not saying you're wrong to prefer long haired men, no qualms there, but saying it's really manly is off base. Henry Rollins for instance, Maynard Keenan, billy Corgan, rob helford, and Barney Greenway to name a few without long hair.
Load More Replies...I think that it depends on the man. Some have features that go well with long hair and others with short. And some look great with no hair at all! (Looking at you Sir Patrick!)
Also, manicures…that went on right through the 30s, and I’m not sure when male grooming stopped, but for the love of cuticles, please start it again
Whoever wrote this post is too young to know that long hairs are identical with metal bands.
Skirts. I saw someone say that anatomy-wise, men should be wearing skirts because pants constrict your c**k and balls. I mean, when you think about it, a lot of men wear skirts or skirt-like things historically. The Romans, the Greeks, the Chinese (hanfu), the Scots (? I.... think that's where kilts come from).
Like the guy in Harry Potter book #4 who likes the "healthy breeze around his privates"
Oh my gosh someone else who still remembers that guy
Load More Replies...Remember, it's only a skirt if you wear underwear underneath it.- my brother, Russ **my brother had several hand made wool kilts and wore them everywhere. No, he wasn't Scottish.
"Ah, lad I don't know where you've been but I see you won first prize!" (Google the lyrics to the song The Scotsman if you don't get the reference.)
Load More Replies...OP isn't really doing it, he's just theorizing. I'll consider following if he start doing it himself.
Ì always wear a sarong in the summer, much cooler and I feel more free. Only at home though, because: no pockets.
Makes sense. Dravidian origin people still prefer Lungi to trousers for a reason.
Skirts are a social construct, not a biological one. Soldiers wore kilts for hundreds of years.
Load More Replies...Being creative/artistic. There's always been stupidity behind things like musical instrument choice. A dude playing a flute seems funny.. but being drum core or bass is manly. A leather smith is manly but sewing clothes is less so. It's all art.. it's all creative.
Not to mention "being able to simply enjoying it". It kinda feels like you need to wanna be the best and train like hell or it's not a real, manly, activity. But being secure enought to just vibe and enjoy your time is way more tough.
That's why I love him so much. He has so many talents.
Load More Replies...man playing flute looking funny.. bollox, somebody hasn't seen Ian Anderson or the guy playing the shakuhachi for Wagakki Band
Dude playing a flute sounds funny Tell your friends to look up Lord Krishna. He was a pseudo- Cassanova , and he charmed girls with a Flute.
Dancing. Dudes that can dance get all the sex.
My ex used to joke that my hips only worked when I had no clothes on, and seized up when I went on a dancefloor.
Wearing "girly" colors.
Imagine being so insecure with your own sexuality that you can't wear a purple or pink shirt. It's sad, really.
I have a bunch of purple and pink dresshirts, and I have only ever been complimented on them!
The ability to cry and express your emotions
Being emotionally supportive and affectionate to other male friends. I've aways hated the concept of men should show emotions. Why not? I don't get it. If your friend is going through a hard time, giving them a simple hug could really help. Or just listening to them. Even if there isn't a problem, being friendly and platinically physically affectionate is sweet to me. Idky a hug is seen as " gay" lol hugs aren't sexual, it's a hug.
My husband is that way with his best friend. I joke that I married Jeff when I married my husband but I appreciate that he has someone that he can watch movies I don't appreciate with and that they are both secure enough to give hugs.
Washing your a*s
Some weirdo toxic dudes think wiping your butt makes you gay.
Load More Replies...O wash my a*s with soap after taking a dump. It's a family rule.
If that's the case then my d**k just fell off and I am no longer manly.
Excuse me?! I keep mine so clean you could eat off it. Which also happens to be why I keep it clean.... Always be ready for the unexpected A2M!
Pedicures. If you work on your feet, you need to take care of them. Work boots will thrash your toe nails, give you corns and bunions. Additionally having your feet trapped in leather boots for 10+ hrs a day in the heat and sweat will make your foot skin all scaley and flakey. Go get a pedicure. They will not only take care of your toe nails and dead skin but you also get a calf massage and some places do a hot rock massage. It’s glorious.
It took everything in me to not kick the person when I got a pedicure, due to it tickling so bad.
There are few things as nasty as a man's unkempt feet. My SO has a pedicure once a month; it's very sexy.
Realizing you are wrong, learning from it, and becoming better because of it.
So does every item on this list. It's just that men need to be encouraged to do them.
Load More Replies...#Standing up for men who can’t stand up for themselves.
Or take it a step further, and stand up for anyone who can't stand up for themselves. Age, gender and species are not relevant.
I don't stand up for 2 year olds. Fuxkers are nasty and babble too much. They can deal with it themselves. Once they're 3, okay. /s
Load More Replies...Remember reading some guy saying something like "My kids need to know who is the king, and it's all in the small things. For example, I always get served food first, no matter what, even if I'm late. Because that's what being a man is all about". And while reading that I couldn't help but think how sad it is to base you personality in a trope, but even if we go for the stereotype of what a manly man is, isn't it more manly to make sure your kids eat first so you are sure there is enogh for them, willing to go hunger as long as they don't have to?
whenever I cook, I always let everyone else (wife, kids) eat first so there is enough...after they're done - if not a formal situation as I'll eat with them - I'll eat. But I don't leave the kitchen (we have a 4 person breakfast bar in our kitchen so I'll hang with them) and actually enjoy watching them grub it all down.
Or serving yourself instead of making your wife do it, we are not in the 1950's anymore
Having rules like this implies that there's a punishment for breaking them, and that's where you crash through the guardrail and go over Toxic Dude Cliff
Eating salad. Taking care of your health is manly.
Agreed. Knew this guy that claimed to be allergic to "all fruits and vegetables" and, coincidentally believed that a man partaking of either is prone to becoming homosexual. Meanwhile a mutual friend pointed out to his face that for someone who held such beliefs on what defines someone as "gay", he himself always was a little too eager to be shoving thick, hot meat down his gullet like it was going out of style, most of the time without even chewing it.
HA! Oh, if that's real, I'd have loved to see that guy's face.
Load More Replies...My ex was a f*****g lil b***h about even *mentioning* feminine products or menstruation. I couldn't even mention having *"period pains"* without him complaining how gross it was and that I made him feel sick for mentioning it. I was rarely around him when I was on, but I hate to think how unhelpful he would have been. My dad on the other hand, quite a lads lad, has no issues. He used to track my mum's menstruation because he found it easier than she did, and he was always more than happy to nip to the shops and pick up feminine products. "Do you need ladies things?" He used to ask me. "What flavour do you need?" His joke, but he was referring to whether it was pass or tampons, and what flow. Oh and I just remembered that that same ex wouldn't buy his own f*****g Pokemon game because it's "Not manly". I haven't known such a insecure stupid little b***h before or since.
lmao yeah, another stupid thinking being manly means rejecting feminity
Yeah, I'll pick up period products for you (I have for my daughter), but you better tell me EXACTLY what you want because there are so many of them and I literally don't know the pros and cons of any of them! In fact, if you can text me a picture of the label to the old container so I can match it to the ones on the shelves, that would be great.
My husband complains that I just had my period but he is super supportive and will buy chocolate candy or ice cream or whatever I'm craving
Not giving a f**k about what other people consider to be manly.
Not giving a f**k about what others think at all. Go your own way, don't go with the herd. The herd is stupid as f**k, look at fad culture and do a 180
Not being concerned with other people’s quantification of your manliness.
I've yet to receive my card in the first place, so I can only laugh when someone expects me to give it up.
Getting up every f*****g day to go to a job you hate, doing it with a smile because that's how you keep your kids fed, housed and healthy.
And that misery WILL infect others. And you likely will not know it. This is NOT manly, womanly, or any-other-gender-ly, EVER. Please seek a way of love, not hate. It's not manly to set an example of eating shiit. This sort of thing is how the manliness concepts got distorted in the first place........
Load More Replies...No. This is wrong. So very wrong. Its not manly. It's not even human. It's wrong. That is old and busted nonsense from the old days. We've been raised to be proper employable slaves since the late 60s. Everything in our lives from Cartoons and school has tried to prepare us to be wage slaves. Break the wheel and stop this nonsense
Confused here, is this falsely labelled unmanly? This sounds like self flagellation to me, I know cos I’ve been there. Sucks your soul leaving nothing for those important in your life
I think so. I dont think this dumb a*s post belongs here.
Load More Replies...Stop valorizing acquiescence to predatory capitalism. You gotta do what you gotta do to feed your dependents, but nobody should have to live like that in a world where the only resources that are still scarce for legitimate reasons (i.e., not deliberate supply restriction for the sake of keeping prices high) are rare-earth metals, a few noble metals, and (now, thanks to historical overuse) helium.
valorizing. I have not heard that word recently. Thank you.
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Admitting defeat. What's "unmanly" (or "unwomanly," really) is throwing a tantrum, denying reality, or refusing to soldier on.
Dude, my Dad is the typical male chauvinist who refuses to admit he's wrong. My husband is the opposite
Having a tea party with your young daughters. I have drank more fake tea than anyone on Earth.
Cooking and washing the dishes right after!
Wearing short shorts. Lemme see them thighs.
I miss the men of the 1960's and thereabouts. Men's shorts were SHORT and this girl couldn't wait to grow up so I could enjoy my own man's thighs. Who came up with baggy stuff? We're supposed to keep flashing flesh while dudes cover up? Talk about insecure!
Sorry. I'm part albino. I'll keep covering up as I scorch too easily.
I just hate short shorts in general but it has nothing to do with masculinity. I hate them on women, too.
I’ll start: Admitting when you’re wrong. When anyone with eyes can see your earlier statement was misinformed, taking accountability and control of the situation with a simple “Yep. You were right, I was wrong. Here’s what we’ll do now,” shows leadership, responsiveness, and confidence. Trying to deny or defend or justify your earlier statement comes across as insecure and reactive or oblivious, none of which are qualities traditional “manly men” try to embody.
Honestly, pretty much everything that some people consider unmanly. Things like personal hygiene, taking care of your kids or spouse, and being emotionally available are all manly as f**k.
About the only thing everyone rightly agrees is unmanly is throwing tantrums like a toddler. I just wish the usual crowd that's overly concerned with manliness recognized that tantrums thrown the middle schooler way are equally cringeworthy because boy can they throw 'em as adults.
Driving a minivan. There is literally no better proof of your virility than driving a minivan full of children.
my favorite cars were breaks, ver usefuil. Now the children have left the house, I have a Renault Twingo, and I have nou doubt about the fact being a man :-)
Ok, I mock my ex for this. But, mostly because he wanted to be the mom. Like he got angry and jealous that I was the one to be able to get pregnant and breastfeed.
Keeping your pubes trimmed, c**k shaved, and your junk and a*s clean and washed.
Hell yeah! I am a proud manscaper. So much more comfortable down there! Guys, if you don't, give it a try. You'll thank me.
Clean, sure, but the next person who sees any of mine will most likely be a mortician
Crying. I know that older generations instilled the need for lack of emotional. But having emotions bottle up then explode later is not healthy. Cry when you need to cry. If anything It shows you care about your own emotions, so you'll care about your partners too. And if anyone calls you names or makes you feel bad for being emotional, then that person is the problem. Not you.
Already commented your on one further back, but I love a good ugly cry. It always feels so good to just let it out.
Was on a date with a guy once that held my hand every time I had to step up or down from a curb, and he lifted my hand lightly by my fingers. Thought it was the sweetest and most chivalrous thing.
Were you disabled or wearing ridiculously unstable heels or something? I'd find that weird and infantilizing if I wasn't encumbered.
As a strong, independent, feminist woman, it’s nice to see a man respect a woman enough to be chivalrous. Chivalry is not the same as chauvinism. I’m nearly six feet tall, and my spouse is 5’7”. He’ll still do stuff like this. It isn’t insulting, and there is no way to infantilize a 71 inch 45yo woman.
Load More Replies...Holding your wife's purse in public. I do a few push ups, a few pull ups, roll up my sleeves and show off the pump when I do it... be a man...
My husband will do that for me and even keep the purse in his wheely cart at the store. He and I will joke about how fabulous he looks and how the purse totally completes his outfit
I once saw a guy holding his wife's purse... he had the strap on the top of his head and the purse covering most of his face. It was hilarious.
A good quality pink cotton shirt. Kindness.
Taking care of your Hygiene. Clip your nails, use stuff to make you smell good. Basic hygiene is manly.
Body trimming. Reduces your body odor, easier to wipe your a*s, makes muscles look bigger, penis look longer, and removes visible grey hair to make you look younger. Always feel great after a body trim.
nyet, this is to counter the notion that a real man should be a hirsute smelly apey caveman and another one that a man doing the trim is effeminate/gay/insecure
Load More Replies...Disagree with this one completely. Yes, groom yourself, but not because you want to look younger, thinner, bulkier, manlier. Screams insecure alpha.
This is each to their own. I will never trim my chest and abdominal hair for example. I'm not gonna be a Bollywood actor who'll need to flaunt their abs at random hours. Shaving the genital hairs. I can agree. I got a dangerous rash once because the hair on my bum coiled up and the area couldn't get exposed to Oxygen while dealing with sweat. Had to have my mum cut the hair on it and around my balls to heal from it. I was 14 and thoroughly embarrassed.
Showing your emotions
Being vegan. You have to stand up for your principles in the face of near-universal mockery and derision.
Not trying to force your choices on other people. Which includes the choice to eat meat or gluten or anything else. I can't stand preachy vegans, but I can't stand preachy meat eaters either. Count your blessings that you live in a place wealthy enough to be able to choose whether or not to eat a particular food. Also, it is actually possible to develop an allergy to red meat,so no one should be judging anyone's health related dietary needs. If something makes me sick, it shouldn't imply anything about how well I fit your definition of my gender if I don't eat it.
Who were the best fighters in Chinese history? Shaolin monks, and Buddhist monks are strict vegan. (Under pressure, that particular temple has relaxed its rules.)
I was wondering when some vegan nonsense would be crowbarred in. How do you know if someone is a vegan? Don't worry, they will tell you
@ros tit. How do you know if someone a bigot? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you
Load More Replies...one thing is just being vegan, quite another is vege-proselytizing and flaunting one's virtuousness and moral superiority for being one - the cruelty-free gospel seems a bit off knowing lots of poor insects/rodents get painfully k1ll3d through pest control to prevent loss of crops (i.e. profits from selling 'suffering-free' food, so yes, vegans also have blood on their hands) or knowing lots of vegan staples is produced through child or slave labour (the belief in 'ethical' sourcing of crops is false)
Ehhhh…humans are omnivores. Just make sure you take the multivitamin to replace nutrients humans need to survive.
@ice half the population take supplements. It’s hardly a stigma.
Load More Replies...Not saying being vegan isn't manly, but to each their own. Actually, now that I think about it, I've never heard of vegans being called/considered "not manly". There were terms of negative connotation, but not anything having to do with being masculine or not...
@abbelius the term soy boi is often levelled at men who don’t eat animal products.
Load More Replies...Discussing buying new family cars with my silly male cousin-in law when he says “Well, a [model] would be great, but then I’d have to get a handbag and get my hair done all the time”. I responded with “Yeah, we were thinking about a [model] as well, but fortunately my husband is secure enough in his masculinity not to have to rely on a car to reinforce it”. It sounded a bit rude at the time but seriously, I’m sick of that guy’s s**t (anti-vaxxer, evolution-denier, homophobe)
@lolly good response. Only rude if they take themselves that seriously - another toxic trait.
Load More Replies...the real problem with this is when they say "unmanly", they mean "feminine" and equate femininity with "bad". Nobody ever blasts women for being "unfeminine" the way they blast men. Why? Because being manly is viewed as better, even for women. Stop equating femininity with something lesser and then you wouldn't care if someone called you feminine.
There's a reason "run/throw/cry like a girl" is an insult to men. There's literally nothing worse to men than being compared to a woman. Our language reinforces the ways that women have barely even been seen as people up until VERY recently. When you compare a man to a woman you're essentially dehumanising them, like comparing them to an animal. The whole issue is that masculinity is built, not on positive traits, but on separating itself from what it deems negative and worthless, which is everything feminine.
Load More Replies...REAL MEN buy whatever the hell they want, even if it's pink or flowery, they respect people, and they are sensible, not acting like an alpha male
i guess i did something right when it came to raising my son. he is a big burly bearded guy and is very secure in himself. he treats women with respect and has no problem cooking, cleaning, etc. he is also a self described 'mama's boy' in that he is open about his affection towards me and always have been. i remember when he was in high school and he was leaving with his friends when he came over, gave me a kiss and told me he loved me and would miss me. a couple of the guys kind of giggled and he looked at them and said, 'what? don't you love your mom?' to which they said of course they did. then he told them he should tell them sometime other than when they were trying to wheedle something from her. kind of shocked me at the time but also made me realize that i had a very good relationship with my teen. does that mean he was perfect? far from it! he's now 43 and as i have jokingly told him - he can be a real a-hole but he is my a-hole.
WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE GET MAD about who you love, what you do and what you wear. All people of all genders should be able to be themselves. As long as they aren’t hurting themselves or anyone or anything else, just let people be happy! <3 (sorry for the rant but I’m so tired of people trying to enforce strict gender norms.)
Discussing buying new family cars with my silly male cousin-in law when he says “Well, a [model] would be great, but then I’d have to get a handbag and get my hair done all the time”. I responded with “Yeah, we were thinking about a [model] as well, but fortunately my husband is secure enough in his masculinity not to have to rely on a car to reinforce it”. It sounded a bit rude at the time but seriously, I’m sick of that guy’s s**t (anti-vaxxer, evolution-denier, homophobe)
@lolly good response. Only rude if they take themselves that seriously - another toxic trait.
Load More Replies...the real problem with this is when they say "unmanly", they mean "feminine" and equate femininity with "bad". Nobody ever blasts women for being "unfeminine" the way they blast men. Why? Because being manly is viewed as better, even for women. Stop equating femininity with something lesser and then you wouldn't care if someone called you feminine.
There's a reason "run/throw/cry like a girl" is an insult to men. There's literally nothing worse to men than being compared to a woman. Our language reinforces the ways that women have barely even been seen as people up until VERY recently. When you compare a man to a woman you're essentially dehumanising them, like comparing them to an animal. The whole issue is that masculinity is built, not on positive traits, but on separating itself from what it deems negative and worthless, which is everything feminine.
Load More Replies...REAL MEN buy whatever the hell they want, even if it's pink or flowery, they respect people, and they are sensible, not acting like an alpha male
i guess i did something right when it came to raising my son. he is a big burly bearded guy and is very secure in himself. he treats women with respect and has no problem cooking, cleaning, etc. he is also a self described 'mama's boy' in that he is open about his affection towards me and always have been. i remember when he was in high school and he was leaving with his friends when he came over, gave me a kiss and told me he loved me and would miss me. a couple of the guys kind of giggled and he looked at them and said, 'what? don't you love your mom?' to which they said of course they did. then he told them he should tell them sometime other than when they were trying to wheedle something from her. kind of shocked me at the time but also made me realize that i had a very good relationship with my teen. does that mean he was perfect? far from it! he's now 43 and as i have jokingly told him - he can be a real a-hole but he is my a-hole.
WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE GET MAD about who you love, what you do and what you wear. All people of all genders should be able to be themselves. As long as they aren’t hurting themselves or anyone or anything else, just let people be happy! <3 (sorry for the rant but I’m so tired of people trying to enforce strict gender norms.)
