Things can change quite a bit as the years fly by. Shocker, we know! But the reality is that it’s quite difficult for some people to adapt to changes in behavior and new social norms. Especially if they were used to the world functioning entirely differently for a large portion of their lives.
Not all changes are for the better, however. In an online discussion sparked by u/PrestonRoad90, the members of the r/AskOldPeople group shared their brutally honest thoughts about modern society. They openly criticized the things that are normalized that they believe are actually harmful. Scroll down to check out their opinions.
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A President who cruelly insults others as easily and frequently as drinking a soda.
A President who twitters his followers the craziest things so regularly that it’s become accepted as normal for his followers. One example of numerous tweets: “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT.”
The more ridiculous and crazy things he says and does, the more his supporters cheer him on.
Referring to immigrants he warns Americans during a televised debate:“They’re eating the pets.” His weird statements and unstable behavior is regularly “sane-washed” by supporters.
Never in my lifetime could I have imagined a convicted felon would be elected as the president of our country.
A President who pardons the criminals who injured our Capitol police officers after they protected the members of Congress.
Never in my lifetime could I have dreamed of a President who would threaten and attack our European allies while cozying up to Russia.
Trump pardoned an actual Gang leader who has pretty much been sentenced to life. Google Larry Hoover. The man is a m******r. So much for the "Law and Order President".
"Law and Order President" as in "I'm the law - follow my orders".
Load More Replies...Don't forget he brought back the Tate brothers who were forbidden to leave Romania before their trial.The Tangerine Tyrant is not only a rapist, he's protecting other criminals.
Yeah it's odd how after so much wind, he doesn't release all the Epstein papers, probably because his name is on it.
Load More Replies...It really baffles me how Americans elected him not once, but twice
A lot of us are baffled as to how it happened, as well :/
Load More Replies...He is an awful symptom but not the disease. The disease are his voters. Christians. Conservatives. Republicans. Absolutely vile.
People ignoring a man who posts a social media AI pic saying he's on a mission from god and nothing can stop what's coming. An American president who badmouths veteran's and the military, but demands he has a military parade--and people agree with it!! He thinks he can invade Canada and steal Greenland. He ignores diplomacy. He's a president that's turning the economy into his personal yo-yo, and ignoring every conflict of interest law with impunity. This is a rambling, word-salad spewing dementia patient. He's made an embarrassment of our country.
Remember when Dukakis got ousted for looking dopey in a helmet, or Dean Cain's "yeehaw," or Perot's chicken speech, or Obama's brown suit, or any of the other things that used to be political s*****e - turns out that no one really cared about those until the media told them too, and they don't care about the opposite as long as their media tells them not to. Russian bots and Faux News have absolutely decimated American politics (which was pretty s****y to begin with).
conservatives hate celebrities like Taylor Swift because they prove that beautiful, blue eyed blonde women can be things other than housewives
Trump hates her because she was Time's Person of the Year and he thinks it should have gone to him.
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People thinking their uneducated opinion is just as good as that of people who took the time to study and learn a particular discipline. I’m not saying we should blindly accept the word of every professional out there, by all means, get a second or third or even more opinion from other professionals. But no, watching a bunch of online videos isn’t the same as med school.
"Do your own research" translates to "search for whatever validates your view!". Which makes it an invalid attempt at best.
Doing your own research is like doing your own appendectomy.
Load More Replies...I want to re-wire most of the circuits in my house. Should I hire an electrician or do youtube videos give me enough expertise to not burn my house down?
Abortion bans. Women having fewer rights now than then.
America chose to go in another direction for this one - now the government decides for women. But hey, in return for women giving up their right to control their own body at least the government is looking to punish trans women so as to make non trans women feel like they're not the lowest rung on the f*****t ladder.
Load More Replies...The fact that so many women DÍED to fight for our right to vote and now those votes seem to mean nothing is the most infuriating, depressing, and downright crushing reality of my lifetime.
Same for the working class. Boomers ran unions into the ground, with no appreciation for 100 years of picketers being beaten to death for workers rights. It took ONE F*****G GENERATION to fall on tough times, blame welfare recipients, embrace trickle down, and p**s it ALL away. I have no idea how prochoice women are even baseline civil to pro-life women... there's no sisterhood; there's unapologetic treason.
Load More Replies...Sorry. I am against abortion. And not for the reason you think. If a woman gets pregnant, and decides to have an abortion, the man has absolutely no say in her killing his child. If she decides to keep it, the man has no say in child support. She goes to court, and he has to pay for at least 18 years. He has no choice in the matter either way. My opinion, if a woman wants abortion legal, then make it legal for a man to get a "financial abortion". And make it mandatory that both parents have to sign off on an abortion before it can happen. My s***m, my choice.
because some people apparently have a hard time reading and i need to specify and explain why im pro choice otherwise stating biology is seen bible clutching conservative. 1 i am European so i don't follow your democrat/conservative boxes. 2 i am prochoice because i think having kids should be a conscious decision and you should be ready and willing to have them. 3 i am pro s*x ed and free healthcare for all which has nothing to do with my believe that an embryo/fetus/baby before birth is alive, it has to do with the fact i believe in quality of life for all people.
not tryna be a hater but... if u dont want kids either dont have s*x or be protcted. its not that hard
but even using protection is not a 100% guarantee you wont get pregnant. they have been known to fail. and expecting total absence if someone doesn't want a child is also unrealistic.
Load More Replies...In that case, we should have the right to have the fetus removed from our body, and put into an anti-choicer’s body. Since all you care about is getting the fetus born, why does it have to stay in the body of somebody who doesn’t want it there?
Load More Replies...When conception occurs, it is a blastocyst clinging to the uterine wall. This blastocyst has less cells comprising it than the brain of a fly. And half of these conceptions fall off the uterine wall and usually get flushed down the toilet, before they are even detected. Every one of them has the potential to exit the womb as a human. Is that killing a "growing human"?
Load More Replies..."Women can decide if a man will be a father and be financially responsible or not"? I'm going to say some words to you: Rápe. Incest. Séxual ássault. Please tell me where and when, in those instances, the woman gets to "decide" if the man is going to be a father?
Load More Replies...Wow Forrest. That’s pretty harsh. Are you one of the pro lifers who doesn’t want to pay higher taxes to help raise the kids that the mom can’t afford to feed? And who complains about what a drain young people are on “the system” because they aren’t productive members of society? If you demand that they must be here regardless of the feelings and abilities of the parents, hope you’re ready to back up your beliefs with money and support to raise children.
Load More Replies...One of the things criticized in the intriguing online thread was everyone’s obsession with staring at screens “all day.” In many developed nations—where phones, tablets, laptops, PCs, and TVs are relatively accessible—there are lots of questions about the time people spend looking at screens and the impact this has on their health and early development.
For example, France has plans to further restrict mobile phone use in middle schools for the entire school day from September for 11-to-15-year-olds. Their devices will be placed in a locker or pouch at the start of the school day and will be given back when it ends, The Guardian reports.
“At a time when the use of screens is being widely questioned because of its many harmful effects, this measure is essential for our children’s wellbeing and success at school,” said Élisabeth Borne, the Minister of National Education, Higher Education and Research.
Parents letting their kids behave like unruly monsters in public and not disciplining them.
We were in an ER waiting room, a child of 4 o5 was running, screeching, smacking chairs hitting things for 15 - 20 minutes. I finally said something about calming his child down as a lot of us were unwell. He got all indignant and said " So what? You want me to beat my child, you think hitting him is the answer!!??" I calmly said " I said calm him down, not hit him. You could try talking to him and explain about inside voices and keep him still." I mentioned he was old enough and I'm certain intelligent enough to understand.He looked a little embarrassed, shocked actually. He did it though and it worked,
Exhausted from being the unpaid Au Pair in every social situation! You breed them, you raise them. Put down YOUR D**M Phones! PARENT YOUR CHILDREN - PLEASE.
Load More Replies...For some reason, people today think discipline is punishment, and that all punishment is physical. They also think time outs and groundings "don't work", and they also seem to overly underestimate how much young kids understand what you tell them.
This should be higher. If kids weren’t allowed to be so horrible in public, maybe more people would be willing to have them. When I was still fertile, badly behaved kids were a good reminder to use birth control.
Bratty out of control children are enough to put anyone off having them.
Load More Replies...As a mother I second this! Also, louder for the peeps with the phones. Also as a mother: this "I hate children" attitude of some folks really makes my blood boil! They make weird noises especially befor they can speak, toddlers are still learning how to eat without spilling stuff, breastfeeding is just normal
Open government corruption. Politicians publicly calling one another names on a whim.
Openly eliminating much needed social programs without fearing the consequences.
Overfeeding billionaires while starving those in need.
OPENLY EMBRACING FASCISM AND NAZISM.
Being proud to be a racist.
Stealing.
Because there are no consequences. People vote for the same 2 parties, even though there are others available. Maybe there's a protest for one day. But no strikes, and of course we allowed rich f***s to run media empires.
Voting for any others isn't viable, it's just glorified abstaining in this voting system. This system is one of the worst when it comes to strategic voting issues
Load More Replies...a plague resulting in a labor shortage, bad military leadership, christianity mattering more than goverment, infighting, decisions benefitting the rich more than the poor - the us just needs civil war and it emulates the fall of the roman empire
No. Nobody needs civil war. I fear it, but I certainly don't want it.
Load More Replies...Conservatives want to take us back to the 1850s where white men were in charge and everyone else "knew their place".
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Tipping for every mundane transaction.
Tipping used to be for people doing actual service. Waiting your table at a restaurant or delivering food to your house. Doing your yard care. Something that involved significant action or effort.
Now there's tip jars sitting in front of every cashier.
fwiw, I would prefer to just raise all service employees wages and get rid of tipping altogether.
I am numb from so many people expecting tips when they have done nothing special to deserve a tip. If you are my server for a sit down meal, I’ll happily tip you well. If I order online and you hand me a bag through a window, it’s not going to happen.
It's amazing to me how many restaurants have a mandatory tip, as in you can't select 0, to order online and pick up yourself.
Load More Replies...There are places that put a tip prompt at the self checkout. Think about that.
Tipping came from the fact that waitstaff were originally freed slàves. The owners of the restaurant didn't want to pay them, so they got tips for their work.
Load More Replies...Just imagine how bad tipping culture will become in the U.S. if the cheeto in charge was to actually follow through and not tax tips.
This is how insane it's gotten. "Good tippers" used to be considered people who had a lot of wealth and flaunted it around by handing it to every staffer who did a service for them, and even then, it would have been someone who did their job to standards or above. Now, it's expected every Tom, D**k and Nancy (perhaps the default example names could be updated.), or every Braedan, Jayden and Kadence is expected to fork over almost an extra half of the cost of the total bill.
Every Kayden, Jayden, Brayden and Okayden.
Load More Replies...I have begun boycotting all tipping. Maybe if we all join in, the employers will have to start paying a living wage or have no staff.
Tipping shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Employers should PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES
There's another recent trend. Businesses adding 4% fees to their tabs to cover CC Processing. Normally we're 20% tippers. When there's a fee, it's simply deducted from the 20% tip. The server pays the fee. We tip when we are actually served as well.
And a government that has pushed prices up with tariffs that consumers pay. But when margins and taxes are added it's worse
France had already banned kids from using phones in all middle schools back in 2018. The result was an increase in social interaction, exercise, concentration, and less bullying. That being said, some kids would still sneakily watch videos on their phones during their breaks. Meanwhile, digital devices are banned in primary schools
Now, the line of thinking is that the approach needs to be taken even further, separating school kids from their devices for the entire school day. Many parents and teachers support these changes.
“A young person now spends on average five hours a day in front of a screen, but they only spend three hours a week with a book […] Not only is reading going down, but for those who do read, half of them are doing something else on their phone at the same time. All that is damaging to students’ success,” said education minister Borne.
I was watching a young father on YouTube reacting to Mr. Dressup, an old Canadian kid’s tv show.
Mr. Dressup was playing with a worm and making crafts out of a paper bag. The host said really complimentary things about the show, but said it lacked an educational element. He missed the point- teaching about respecting nature and being creative is just as important as learning your ABC’s.
I think people nowadays are so focused on productivity that they don’t see the value in life’s most simple activities, like digging in dirt and scribbling on a piece of paper. .
Mr. Rogers once said that adults think of play as a break from serious learning, but for kids, playing IS serious learning.
Yes! Children learn through play! When my son was little, he asked about our jobs. He got nervous and asked if he had a job. I said, "Your job is to learn about the world, and the best way to do that is to play." A boomer later joked to him that he should pay for a restaurant bill, then said, "What?! You don't have a job!?" Another little kid looked nervous, but my guy confidently said, "My job is to play."
Load More Replies...We're definitively in a "productivity" crisis, not just for kids. Even our time off work needs to be optimised and be as productive as possible. Running slowly and just a bit for fun? Hell, you'll NEVER get to run a marathon with that attitude! Reading? It better be a book that makes you "grow". Art? You better learn as much as any art student! Hobbies? What do you mean you don't know as much as a professional on that topic? Just sitting around? Why are you so lazy and waste your time? And so on. Just being, just existing, just doing something for the joy of doing it is no longer accepted.
Truth. Every time I make a creative project I'm proud of, the unanimous response (and I mean ever single person) is, "hey, that's great, you could sell that!" Like it's some compliment to be able to commodify a hobby. Some people get straight up mad when I say I don't like making things to sell because I don't want to feel like I'm working in a factory. It's sad really.
Load More Replies...I've noticed this years ago. Someone on a parenting forum said "kids don't learn anything putting blocks into holes." I was stunned. I'm wondering if there's a correlation between this, and the parents who only watch kid's movies if there's hidden adult references for the parent's entertainment so they don't get "bored". Kids don't always need everything to be so complex. Yes, playing very simple toys with babies and toddlers is boring. It's not supposed to be for the adults.
And a child who never learns what thing fits into what hole will never be able to park properly 😂😂😂
Load More Replies...I have found, in my years of teaching preschool, that parents often focus on maths, reading, writing etc as 'school readiness' requirements. Whereas these are actually the things they learn once they get to school. Actual school readiness includes things like how to sit and focus on an activity or group time for at least 5 minutes, how to hold a pen or scissors, how to play with peers etc. A LOT of learning comes through play, which is why play-based preschools are important.
Recording crime or misfortune with your phone and not actually doing something to help.
Recording people having medical emergencies and posting it, that's likely the worst day of someone's life and people will make it worse.
One caveat: if you see someone having an epileptic seizure, provided the area has been/is being cleared of hazards, DO record it for the person. I can be helpful for their neurologist. But for dogs sake don't post it online.
Load More Replies...One of the main things that first responders will tell you is not to put yourself in danger and that if a casualty is being attended to then keep out of the way. Video footage has proved to be vital to the investigation and prosecution of many accidents and potential miscarriages of justice. There are always two sides to a story.
Honestly, I doubt the average idiot that films instead of helping would be smart enough to provide actual help.
Well, the average idiot that's filming for the LOLs or prurient interest would probably be useless, but if the issue is being handled, and there could be a reason to film, such as insuring justice or in the case of a seizure, or even recording a natural disaster to document, I can get behind that.
Load More Replies...If George Floyd’s murder by police hadn’t been recorded would we have had the same reaction? Sometimes all you can do is try and record for accountability
Why not do both? Absolutely call for help—it would be wrong not to. But a recording or photo could be valuable evidence in court.
Recording other people, period. Who are you to do that without any consent???
N*zis. Open racism. Oligarchy. Misogyny. Being anti-education, anti-science, anti-American. It's really quite striking as much of this stuff we hear/see in the media today would have gotten people beaten or at least their careers ended when I was a kid in the 70s. Watergate, we thought, was as bad as it would ever get.
Just overall being *mean* to people...that was something bullies did, and they got their asses kicked for it. But now it's a culture all its own, and we elevate people who take glee in making others suffer. It's gross.
The gloating. People taking their own lives and those who hate on their group gloat about it, and make fun of it. My grandfather fought in both world wars and HE could see the 'enemy' as Human beings. Arseholes doubling down because they cannot accept the fact that they behave like s**t.
Remember, the people marching around with Nàzi flags are Republicans.
Load More Replies...I hate this timeline. Especially being in the U.S. in this timeline.
Clearly, you lived a sheltered childhood if you thought Watergate was the worst thing. There were only about a thousand worse things going on at the same time.
According to Cropink, the global average screen time is a jaw-dropping 6 hours 58 minutes per day. A whopping 41% of adults spend over 9 hours in front of screens every day. Moreover, young adults aged 18 to 24 average over 9 hours of screen time per day.
Some of the biggest worries of spending so much time in front of screens include a higher risk of anxiety and depression, developing sleep disorders, and eye strain.
Meanwhile, Verywell Mind warns that too much screen time carries other risks such as weight issues due to unhealthy eating and less physical activity, behavior and mood issues, lower academic performance, less sociability, poor self-image, and even internet addiction.
Children mis-behaving and not having consequences. Now, every child has a disorder as an excuse for being a brat.
Children run the family now.
As someone with these "disorders" (ADHD, autism, trauma), I hate how there is no compassion shown for a genuinely disabled person who may have an episode in public but somehow these other children are excused. But also- it's not the child's fault. Children are being raised by screens now and it's extremely damaging. Keep in mind I'm 18. I'm not a boomer or a parent myself yet, and I have extreme compassion for parents doing their best, but so many don't.
As a parent to a special needs child, thank you for that Lukas, unfortunately I know some people who use it as an excuse for their kids to be naughty, rude, run riot and there's nothing wrong with them, my son will have melt downs, sensory overloads, get scared, he'll scream with his hands over his ears and people look at me in disgust, no I will NOT tell my son off for something he cannot control, yes, I will tell him off if he's just being naughty, there is a difference, people are so quick to judge, the child, the parent, it honestly gets exhausting
Load More Replies...If a kid is diagnosed as having a disorder, then it is what it is. However, allowing kids to be disruptive and act dangerously because they have a disorder, and going around with that as an excuse, is inexcusable. Having a disorder means having to put more effort to function in society. It's not fun nor "quirky".
This kind of generalisation is hardly any better. Yeah, let's go back when children with ADHD were beaten, because THAT helped so much better! GTFO with your lack of understanding of the word "nuance".
It sounds like people complaining about learning. Yes we know more about humans, use that information instead of whining about it.
Load More Replies...Let's have capital punishment for these little bàstards. No, I didn't mean corporal. I said what I said.
In most cases the problem are the parents, not the kids..
Load More Replies...When people use a disorder as an excuse, they make things harder for people with that disorder who are NOT just being åsshòles. Some people with certain disorders CAN’T just “act normal” easily.
One of my sons has ADD and mild Tourettes Syndrome. He was taught that his ADD and Tourettes were not a crutch or excuse to not do something or try. School was hard for him especially math. Both of my kids were told to do their best. We never demanded or paid for grades like my mother thought she was going to do. We put a stop to that real quick! My oldest who school was easy for & was always on the A or AB honor roll was put on punishment for 3 mos when he was in 5th grade because he went from an A to an F in a teachers classes because he didn't turn in homework that I saw him do and goofing off in class. Punishment was no TV, phone calls, computer or friends over. It turned him into a bookworm and he's an Engineer now. A lot of people just don't care what their kids do. Their parents need to go back to when their parents would have torn their asses up. They also knew there were consequences for bad behavior.
I am an introvert, but I think things were better when people were forced to interact socially more. People have forgotten how to be polite and respectfully disagree. It’s sad.
It's definitely been normalized to use being an introvert as an excuse to be downright rude. No one is saying you have to pick up the phone every time someone calls, or not feeling up for chatting in social setting. But at least be civil and respectful about it.
This is one area I think 100% due to the internet age we live in. People can say whatever horrible things they want while hiding behind a computer screen and that has translated to how we treat each other in person too. It's so sad. I feel lucky to live in a state where people are still "nice" but it's getting more and more rare.
Has absolutely nothing to do with introvert/extrovert. It's called manners. Something that isn't taught anymore apparently.
I agree, but this needs to be done in moderation. I'd rather have someone respectfully decline than realize they had a miserable time.
for me social interaction is like a muscle that needs regular training lest it becomes weak. I've become much happier overall since i began working from home, but each social outing now takes a bigger toll on me than before. And i found you cannot exist in society without at least some degree of human contact.
Load More Replies...Mmm, yes and no. We just finally got to a point where introversion is recognized as a valid personality type, not a thing that makes you “weird.” If you force me into constant pointless superficial social interactions, I WILL find a way to escape from that.
Reminded me, where one user commented that they want to return to work, hear all the tea about families, divorces, kids and what is happening in their coworker lives. Another user responded that this is exactly the reason they do not want to return. Being rude is not exactly related with how much you communicate live. Sometimes it is the opposite: people had to get to the rude level because other people ignoring their social limits, saying no and unwillingness to detail their personal life. Sometimes that "rude" is "I have no more patience for your $hit, when I multiple times tried to excuse myself politely".
They didn't forget. It's just become mainstream for people to pompously insist they are correct and that they (and only they) do not have to answer or prove anything to anyone. The days of being swayed by facts or being held accountable to provide evidence for one's argument are gone. It took longer than it should have but I have begun to learn the importance of being proven wrong and listening to opposing views to become a more informed person. My biggest motivator is my desire to NOT be one of the dimwits who spout nonsense while being proven wrong and caught in lies at every turn.
Politicians in democracies just flat-out demonstrably lying and there being no accountability for it.
Utility and insurance etc companies ripping you off if you don't shop around when your contract ends. Loyalty had a value but now it is exploited as a weakness.
Concert tickets costing 100s, or even 1000s of pounds. I get that physical album sales are a fraction of what they were, but I don't remember them costing 100s or 1000s of pounds each lol.
"8 million illegal immigrants, 10 million, 16 million, 20 million" That number changes week to week and they are always making it up.
Trump has said numerous times that immigrants coming into the country under Biden in numbers that were more than the entire population of the country. That would be impossible, of course. But the media just ignores his obvious lies. And now Trump says Biden has been a clone since 2020. Just crazy being normalized.
Load More Replies...Same at work. Once you became more valuable if you had been working somewhere for 10 years, because that meant you have a lot of experience. Today you're seen as stupid and clearly fair game for being exploited, and the only option is to switch companies every 5 years or so.
Why the hell should you HAVE TO shop around for utilities? That’s a hassle. IMHO, things that are necessary, like utilities or healthcare, should not be run as a for-profit business. It sucks that we have to fight to get necessities at a reasonable price. Maybe utilities can be run by some business principles, but they should be highly regulated. It should not be a huge hassle to get your electricity or water turned on.
What are your thoughts about all of this, dear Pandas? What are some things that society seems to have normalized in this day and age that you fundamentally think are problematic?
On the flip side, what are some changes in modern times that you think are genuinely for the better? Let us know in the comments below.
The lack of critical thinking skills.
Problem is if you think crtically about the system you can get easily depressed. Call it being pessimistic, but sometimes is hard to live in this world.
Critical thinking is the ability to analyze something from all perspectives. It is nothing to do with criticism. That's what I'm talking about, there's a basic lack of education.
Load More Replies...This isn't new. It's been going on systematically for 70 years or more.
Its a lack of education. People think they know better because somone on their phone said its true
There are probably as many people WITH critical thinking skills that are too lazy or unmotivated to use them as there are those that are genuinely lacking. I think it's important to separate the 2 groups. An absence of skills can be remedied but an unwillingness it much more difficult to address.
No failing grades in school. Just passed along to the next grade.
This is such a disservice to the lower achieving students, who may need more time and smaller class sizes in order to process information.
I see the problem of failing is it's perceived, to the child, as a punishment. They can't move on to the next grade with their friends and have to do the same work all over again. It's not always about that, but the reactions parents express towards their kid failing does a bigger disservice. Find out what went wrong, see what can be done to improve and keep trying.
Load More Replies...In my senior year of high school, I was moved to a group home in the poorest county in my state. 12th grade English, they were teaching us how to write a paragraph. Not a complex one- Introduction sentence, three body sentences, conclusion sentence. This was stuff I'd mastered in third grade. I felt so bad because it was a primarily minority school that was being failed. I came from one of the wealthiest part of my state to the poorest, and the difference was obvious.
I moved from a London 'crammer' school that was meant to prepare you for the exclusive secondary schools to a well-thought-of but not exceptional secondary on the South coast. I couldn't believe that one of my first homework assignments was to draw a picture and colour it in.
Load More Replies...They aren't doing any favors for anybody. Just dump them on the next teacher.
“Social promotion” (passing children to the next grade to keep them with children their age) is almost always counterproductive. With all the technology we have now, it ought to be relatively straightforward to give each student a curriculum appropriate to where they are in each subject, which only very loosely correlates with age. Sadly, this is not the case and likely never will be, for a number of reasons (two of the biggest being capitalism and politics).
Hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahahaha omg. If only! ...said the teacher.
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Ignoring civics and the constitution. Claiming religion and freedom are what they are not.
And that the second amendment supposes that the founders could foresee weapons that have 15 round magazines, or even bolt actions. When the 2nd was adopted (1791) the weapons available had to be handloaded..powder, wadding, shot, ram it in, put the percussion cap on....I suspect the 2nd would've looked far different. The 1st amendment does not say the US is a "Christian Nation", in fact, it expressly warns against any one religion having sway over the people. As an example, the Shia /Sunni divide should be glaring evidence that a nation using 'the Book' as it's basis invites all manner of interpretation.
The second amendment was there because we had no standing army. It is now long lived past its usefulness.
Load More Replies...THIS. Don’t get me started. If YOU want to have a religion, have at it. But if your religion starts affecting my life, we’re going to have a problem.
Foul- mouthed kids, well under 15, even 10, in public, in your face, with no repercussions.
Even with parents nearby.
I knew this young girl since she was 6 or 7 years old. I think she’s 11 right now. Anyway, at the young age of 11, she went on to read the entire Twisted love Series, and how no problem talking about p**n. I genuinely believe social media’s ruining them.
I read the series (unfortunately im 14 and I had NO IDEA what the series was abt. Other than the... freaky stuff... the series was good) BUT A 6-7 YEAR OLD?
Load More Replies...I understand words are just sounds we make with our mouths. But when kids swear, they get all overly cocky with it, making them act super arrogant. Some words hold a high level of maturity.
I find that often kids know the words but not the tune.
Load More Replies...Eh, it depends on how much they swear, who they swear at, and how bad the swear is. Kids do need to learn appropriate ways to handle their anger.
Yeah when I hear foul-mouthed kids I want to slapped the parents in the mouth and tell them they need to clean up their language and the kids language.
Playing music out loud in public, especially when hiking or on the bus.
i hate that as well but people already did that 30+ years ago
Hence, the boombox in the picture. And that was more like 50 years ago.
Load More Replies...Cars driving by in the street, bass up so loud it rattles my teeth and I'm INSIDE my house.
If I’m in my car with the windows closed, I should not be able to hear music from your car when your windows are closed.
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Kids nolonger having freedom to roam and explore
Every now and then in one of the ask subreddits, you get questions like *"Could kids really bike places on their own like in those 1980s movies? Wasn't that just a Hollywood trope?"*
It's heartbreaking.
It is heartbreaking. The concept of "stranger danger" came along, and it became not only normal but necessary for both parents to work. So parents made the kids stay inside unless supervised. Most not even allowed in their own yard if parents weren't home. Even older kiddos. Neighborhoods and playgrounds looked deserted. Then society blamed the kids for playing video games and watching too much TV. What else were they going to do? Stranger danger has been discredited, it's almost always someone you know who takes or hurts a child. Worry less about the strangers and more about the adults your child knows. But kiddos are still kept inside, and still blamed for not getting enough exercise.
Strangers trying to lure kids was a thing, and still is.
Load More Replies...People blithely strap their kids into a car and go 80 miles on the interstate, but won't let their kids play in parks or walk to school. Kids are more likely to die in a auto accident according to the statistics, but people ignore those. Just like the statistics on 'stranger danger' versus known adult abuse, or the statistics of death with vaccinated vs unvaccinated kids--and we love to dwell on the sensationalism.
Kids still have the freedom to roam and explore, here… Many of these are just usa centered and don’t apply to many other places in the developed world
Which to me, the middle-European kid of the 70s, sounds amazing! Yes, dangerous, but so are cars. I guess you just had to learn a different set of rules.
Load More Replies...The school i went to for 5th and 6th grades was 3 blocks so I either walked or rode my bike. My mother would give me $ and send me to either the drugstore or dime store to pick stuff up when I was 5 or 6. I was born in 61 so it was so much safer then.
I live in rural Germany, born in 78. My school was 5 km away and I regularly biked there alone or with friends from age 7 or 8. Our bus stop was at a busy street, and come sunshine, rain or snow, I/we waited there every morning basically since I started school at age 6 without any parental supervision. It was not unusual. But I don't think it was safer back then. We (as a society) just had less information. We had the local newspaper, radio station, and the evening news, accumulating to maybe 30 to 45 minutes of catastrophes, violence, sports, and weather forecasts per day, many of it repeating.These days doomscrolling the social media is something of a competitive depressant, we have WAY more tv channels than back in my time, competing for viewers (if less aggressively than in the US), there are bubbles of loud mouthed preppers/angsty parents/angry mobs pervading the internet, telling us about the upcoming apocalypses and monsters waiting to harm us and our loved ones.
Load More Replies...Parenthood has been turned into an Olympic-level sport. These days, if you don’t worry about your child every minute and keep him/her locked up all the time, the Mommy Mâfiâ will report you to CPS. I’m glad I was a kid back when my parents were allowed to do other things than hover over me.
Mobile technology has led to employees being on call permanently. When I started working, once you left work, your time was your own...
It still is. Don't pick up when you're clocked out and your boss or coworker is calling you.
I am currently in the process of filing an FLSA complaint on this very subject. Know your rights, people!
Seriously? Guess you either have one already or don't need one, because most people can't pick and choose.
Load More Replies...You answer your phone after hours when work calls you? I sure don't.
I hope to be off-call in a job that does not require to be.
Not going to the emergency room because you’re afraid it will bankrupt you.
Same here in Spain. Far from perfect but it works. The Covid pandemy was devastating to all public healthcare. But it works. Pay for an ambulance to take you to the hospital? It is inhuman!
Load More Replies...”The United States remains the only country in the developed world without a system of universal healthcare”
Yes. People do. Medical or dental issues can be fatal.
Load More Replies...I have no health insurance (in the ordinary sense of the term) but I'm a U.S. veteran, so that's where I get all my health care, through Veteran's Affairs, and there's virtually no out-of-pocket expense. Closest thing the U.S. has to a national health plan, but not for just any old U.S. citizen unfortunately. Fortunately, even though I never planned for it, now I'm never afraid to go get medical attention. But back when I had health insurance through my employer and had deductibles and co-pays and excluded services, you betcha I had to think "do I really need to see a doctor?" That is not a good mental place to be.
FWIW, stop going to most ERs and start going to urgent care. One of the problems with many ERs is that the hospital (and thus, ER) will accept your insurance, but the doctors in the ER are not on staff. So, those àsshats will send you a separate bill that is must likely not covered by your insurance. When you try to complain, they'll point out that there are signs on the wall. There are a shitton of other signs on the wall, too, and I'm not looking at any of them because I am, or the person I care about is, hurt or sick. Some hospitals aren't like that, such as major children's hospitals. You're far less likely to have this problem at urgent care. Just make sure that you only get hurt during business hours.
Well, that's a stupid statement regarding urgent care vs ER. Everything is dependent on whether or not you have good insurance. Three times I've gone to the urgent care, and they sent me on to the ER. For an infected wound, an asthma attack and suspected pneumonia, 2 of 3 which could have been handled in urgent care, according to the ER doc. And for all three I was presented with bills from the urgent care as well as the ER. I have good insurance, and it still was costly. Also, you can request assistance or a review on your bill with regard to income from a hospital, but urgent care DGAF.
Load More Replies...Hospitals have charity care and MOST people qualify for partial or full coverage even with good insurance.
The hatred of immigrants.
Back in the 80s and 90s, we were America. The home of the free and the land of the brave. People that came here were welcomed.
Now we're the home of the oligarchs and the land of the fearful Christo-Nationalists that don't have the balls to accept new company.
We're the trash can organization of what our ideals were back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. At no point did any president hate immigrants. Even Ronald Reagan was all for immigration.
Now we have a bunch of 70 and 80 year old losers that are filled with spite running us straight to the ground. It's f*****g sad.
I feel bad for so many of our youth that can't figure out their way out of the hatred and mysogony within their algorythm. They're all being brainwashed because they all weren't educated.
The poster might want to check his history. In particular, look at how Chinese or Irish immigrants were treated.
Or Japanese immigrants. The delusion in this entire thread is emblematic of how we got to where we are.
Load More Replies...Uhm, you were never the land of the free. It’s just something you get brainwashed to think from a young age. Self proclaiming rarely tells reality…
Best comment on the thread. U.S. patriotism is a cult, and we get indoctrinated early and often.
Load More Replies...Irish, Italians, anyone who emigrated thru Ellis island suffered "those people" treatment. Japanese internment camps, etc..
What is with the agism? The people I hear complaining about immigration is in all age groups. People naturally move around. We're all either immigrants, or come from a lineage of immigrants, and those people probably had relatives who immigrated in other places. We all live on this Earth together. We need to share.
Seriously This country has always hated immigrants. Its just people from different countries now than in days past.
"No women or natives" - sign at a nearby tavern that lasted until the '60s.
Load More Replies...From my personal experience of 50+ years - yes, racism has always existed. But for a brief moment, around the 80s, at least in Germany it was seriously frowned upon. Only neonazi politicians would run campaigns on it. These days the Labour party in the UK stokes anti-immigration sentiments in order to stay in power. That's the difference, I think.
Lets not give the treatment of African americans and mexicans any truth. Slavery is still endemic. Its why us laws tolerate low wages, tipping and generally poor working conditions. The usa is a slave factory
People causing a scene in public. You keep your business to yourself, and if something is upsetting you, handle it privately and quietly.
Or a giant meteor is going to hit - raise your voice if you see that too!
Load More Replies...I have to admit that I like when people make an scene in public... Free entertainment!
At moments like that, I have to admit to feeling hungry for popcorn. And I don't even like popcorn.
Load More Replies...Eh, some people are bringing stuff to public because they are afraid to do it privately. For example, woman leaving a guy sometimes want to do that in public, because they are afraid of abuse, or hope they won't risk causing scene in public. Is it fun to watch? No. But handling everything privately and quietly increases risk of abuse. No witnesses, no one to stop them or even tell police about it.
Parents getting involved in every moment of thier kids playing with other kids! I get that sometimes it’s hard to not get involved but when parents get involved in every single interaction and conflict and they don’t let children try and figure it out on their own I truly feel like children are not learning social skills, conflict, resolution, and simply the reality of life that you don’t get along with everybody and not everybody likes you, etc. On my street alone we have 10 children and it’s very clear that some of us stay out of things or we only step in when it’s a pretty major situation and other parents jump in at every single little conflict every single time their kid is upset to the point where they’re even knocking on Our door to discuss the situation. And I see this play out in public school as well. Kids are actually being completely held back from figuring anything out on their own when it comes to the same thing socialization conflict, resolution and now they’re also being sheltered from any potential risk. They’re not allowed to make snowballs on a snowy day, they’re not allowed to run on the pavement at recess… No running at recess are you kidding me? It’s absolutely ridiculous. They’re just being coddled and overly protected at every single turn and we wonder why even the generation a bit older are entitled a lot of the time, can’t handle projection can’t handle the stress of life, etc.
Men and women seeing each other as belonging to fundamentally different and somewhat hostile tribes. When I was young, men and women tended to view each other positively by default.
Well, yes, that is the source of much of the problem.
Load More Replies...In the past I didn't know how many men saw me just as a hole. How many dreamed of subjugating me. Occasionally you would hear an idiot saying that, but the online world - not necessarily just social media - has opened our eyes. Yes, when I was 18 I was more positive. By then I also didn't know that you can find 70 men willing to r**e an unconscious women just in a small part of one European county. And if it's that many who do it, many more who excuse it, and even more who don't mind - how "positive" am I to feel? The individual man I come to know will be judged as an individual, but speaking of groups - guys, I WANT to trust you by default. It just seems that it would be unwise to do so.
Trusting all men by default would be plain bloody stupid. Men in general have never earned that level of trust.
Load More Replies...I know a lot of good men. My husband is the kindest person I know. But ask yourself these questions. Who started a completely stupid war over greed? Yup, Putin, who is what? A man. Who orchestrated the Israeli m******e? Right again. Men. Who's killing Palestinians by the truckload? Anybody? Men. 99.5% of all mass killings? Really, you have to ask? I'm not saying women can't do horrible things, but most of the time, the ones who are acting out all their aggressions to harm innocent lives are not women.
Somewhat naïve - hardly any women in power (which is perhaps a bigger issue). I suspect it will be a VERY long time before you see a woman in charge of any Palestinian groups. Those that have got into power - Boudicca, Catherine the Great, Queen Mary (and Liz 1) did their fair share of k1lling.
Load More Replies...Oh ffs, back in 'the good old days' kids were told "That's for girls, John. That's for boys, Jane." Boys would be taken out to play sports with their fathers while girls would stay in to bake and play with their dolls with their mothers.
I preferred sports, and my parents didn't care.😺
Load More Replies...I'm not willing to combine tribes until the other tribe exhibits empathy and basic human decency.
I'd be hesitant to divide the tribes, lest people are forced to take sides instead of working together. I don't think anything good ever came from segregation. Also "empathy and basic human decency" are not ON/OFF traits. They vary wildly in degree, extension, and perspective. Some extremists will say anybody eating meat lacks all empathy and is no better than a mass múrderer, while others have defended people like KZ-officials as "misguided, but basically decent" guys).
Load More Replies...We now all have to be gay or some other issue so its less of a problem.
Wearing pajamas and house shoes out in public. I'm not talking about a quick trip to the store, but purposefully putting on pajamas and house shoes to wear out. Not wearing slips under sheer dresses that don't have liners ( no I don't want to see your thong underneath your church dress).
Whenever I see someone wearing pyjamas in public, I'm immediately available imagining them getting into bed in those clothes that have been in contact with dirty seating, dragging on the ground, etc. It doesn't matter whether you claim to be changing them when you get home, that's still what people are seeing in their minds.
Wear a flannel shirt and you're OK, wear flannel cut in the shape of pajamas and we will judge you, because we're idiots. Seriously, I don't care what you wear, just don't show your a*s and change before you get into bed. Doesn't hurt to shower, too, but that's your choice.
People in pjs look like they were rushed to the hospital in the middle of the night and are just getting released and need to get an RX filled.
This is such a minor issue in today’s world. As long as your bits are covered, does it really matter?
pj's are only bed wear because that's what we call them, they're still all 'clothes'
True - but true for clown shoes, bras, bikinis, and sombreros, too. There's a time and a place, depending on culture and personal preferences (in essence: quite arbitrary and subjective). If opinions on "propriety" clash people are gonna take notice, some more subtly, some less so, and in some places (mosque in Iran vs. Pride parade in New York) more than in others. Most people will not mind you wearing, say, a short sleeved t shirt in church, but some may take exception. Extend the extremes to wearing a bikini/pyjama/top hat for grocery shopping or a ball gown/Santa Clause outfit/pyjamas at a beach and people will at least look, possibly talk.
Load More Replies...This keeps popping up and it always bugs me. "Look, that person's pants are made of a particular material! How shameful". Do you really have so little going on in that head of yours that this is what you choose to occupy your mind with? Judging people because they're wearing something comfortable out in public?! Pathetic.
Pyjama style clothing always looks as though it's about to have a major malfunction at any time. And I'm always going to assume that you're wearing those outdoor clothes to climb into your bed. There are plenty of comfortable clothes that aren't pyjamas.
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Lack of empathy and general idea among young men that the far right is ok, HINT its not!
Pink Pilled: Women and the Far Right by Lois Shearing is an excellent book about this
Load More Replies...Oh, please do give the reasoning behind that statement. This should be good.
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Kids not being expected to pay attention.
Staring at screens all day.
Is this really any different than immersing yourself in books all day? Does it matter if the books are “serious” or romance novels?
Yes. The science is in and it makes a substantial difference. In regard to books, then nope - read what you enjoy.
Load More Replies...i upvoted, while spending my morning scrolling on my screen because i don't want to get started with work 😁
It is a bit sad when you see a group of peple sit in a bar or restaurant and all of them looking at the phone. I was always reticent to have a mobile, but the social pressure made me had one. But in the 90s people saw somebody using a mobile phone and they laughed at them. "Look, a snob!"
because back then they were expensive and were flaunted at signs of "look how rich I am". If you are still on that mindset, that's on you.
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I don't think gambling is a "good" thing. The 'normalization" or forced acceptance of gambling on just about everything is taking advantage of people who have a weakness and causes a lot of problems in lives just so a few (including the government) can make money. Gambling ads can go the way of cigarette ads for all I care.
You shouldn't gamble unless you completely understand the underlying mathematics. And if you do, you won't.
Gambling ads should be banned. Gambling sucks funds from vulnerable addicts. It exploits
Here in New Zealand, gambling ads aren't allowed to be shown on New Zealand owned websites, but this creates a loophole where if your site isn't hosted here then gambling ads can still appear.
Australia has restrictions on when they can be shown on tv (like not within an hour of a sports event) but this doesn't apply to streaming, even free to air streaming sites.
Load More Replies...People who think that poker is a game of intelligence. Poker is a game of chance. Like dominoes, Cluedo UNO you can use strategies to increase your chances of winning but if every does the same then it goes back to being a game of chance. I work in gambling.
The intelligence in poker involves finding four or five people much dumber than you to be your opponents.
Load More Replies...If you forbid something, people will still do it. Prohibition didn’t work too well. Maybe have stricter rules on gambling, and more education, especially for young people.
Load More Replies...That's not a Vegas roulette table; it has only a single 0; odds are 36:1 but the casinos pay 35:1 (97%). The Vegas wheels have 0 and 00. The odds are 37:1 (95%) but the payout is still 35:1.
Implying that everybody needs to be in counseling, and that every emotion you could possibly feel, is labeled and analyzed!
I'm disagreeing with this one. As a kid from the 90s, when counseling was less common and highly stigmatized, I love how the new generations have embraced mental health as important. We live in a deeply unnatural and rapidly evolving world. No human mind is prepared to thrive healthily in the computer age. It helps to have a way to navigate that.
Well, given how many people are running around who project their fear and weakness on others, or just want to hurt others in order to feel better (hello, terf scum, sexists, and racists), it seems as if we don't have enough people getting some help in processing their feelings.
It always helps to talk through issues with someone who can provide an outlaying perspective. When you're in the room it's hard to look at the bigger picture when you're analyzing every crack in the wall.
Most people need some kind of counseling, because they don’t learn how to handle their emotions well in the first place. And parents who didn’t learn this will not be able to help their children learn it.
Therapy does not work for everyone. Scrutinizing emotions, however, can be beneficial. It prevented me from being tossed back-and-forth mentally.
Ghosting people. It was not a word we used because it wasn't something you could really do and if you just bailed on someone and refused to speak to them or see them again you better have a pretty good reason.
Now it seems like if you go in a couple of dates and you don't really feel it, you can just cut someone off without a word and it's honestly cruel.
Related: sending naked pictures of yourself to people. Holy c**p! I came of age in the 90's and this would have been an INSANE idea. Unimaginable.
I rather have the impression that ghosting is now socially accepted. It makes sense: if someone doesn't want to talk to me, I have nothing to gain if they only do it because they feel obliged to. That applies to superficial contacts anyway. If it's a person who can legitimately assume that I'm worried about them, it's certainly cruel.
Not bothering to RSVP. How hard is it to just respond to an invitation? It’s rude AF to not let people know whether or not you can make it. And, no, I didn’t just assume you’d be there 🙄.
Not responding to an RSVP means you will not attend and you will not get a seat at the table.
But then you better not show up and expect to be seated as some will. Kick 'em to the curb then.
Load More Replies...Finding the misfortune of others entertainment, to the point where videos are taken/uploaded and you can hear the person/s laughing. Yes, people have always been bullies and cruel, but now it's on a different level.
It's just on a different level of public awareness. The Darwin awards have been around since 1985. Candid Camera began as a radio show in 1947, and on TV in 1948.
American leaders love see pain inflicted upon those they resent. Think of how they mocked Pelosi when he was attacked with a hammer or their videos showing people in chains while a woman poses in front of their concentration camp. The cruelty is the point and this is what the American nation chose, even if they pretend otherwise.
Being rude and disrespectful. We always had a few but I’m amazed at people’s behavior these days. Young and old, rudeness has no boundaries.
Saying the word bro every 6 seconds.
Oh, c'mon, bro, is it so bad? (In my defense, I live in Southern California, it's part of our everyday vernacular! It's also gender-neutral. I've called my sister "bro" before XD )
A little unrelated, but I’ve noticed that guys who can call women “bro” get ridiculously offended when those very women respond with “girl”.
Of course, they are. The correct word for answering bro is sis.
Load More Replies...In the UK the most common word people say is 'like' - 'Like, he was, like, just being, like, a pain in the neck, like, constantly looking at my, like, chest, like. etc
Teens thinking they are the first to have new phrases and repeating them constantly for 'standing' in the 'crowd'. You sound like ignorant sheep
Maybe I’m just old, but I don’t like “bro” or “bruh.” I think I’m a product of my time; I say “awesome”, “whatever,” and “dude,” a lot.
Bruh, I don't' know why someone down voted you, but have an upvote.
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There are plenty of things I don't agree with, but it's not because it was different when I was younger. It is because those things are, in general, bad for people psychologically or society.
One of the biggies is the pride that people take in hating being around other people or not wanting to socialize in general. The idea that other people are too much trouble is not good for anyone. When I was younger, we wanted to spend time with our friends. That included a lot of activities like talking, hanging out just doing whatever, shopping, playing games, etc.
That being said, there are plenty of things that people, in general, didn't agree with or tolerate that are well-tolerated now. I'm not gay, but I never was happy with the way gay people were treated or spoken of when I was younger. I don't believe in marginalizing anyone, particularly for things they didn't choose and were born to be. That is something that I'm glad isn't as it was when I was younger.
Agree with the second point but the first - nah. Let people choose. I have friends who socialised because they were forced to, and they hated it. It's probably "too much" these days, but that's IMHO because people are stressed out, and being around others takes energy.
No one is saying don't let people choose, the fact that more people seem to choose this suggests something needs to change so people don't choose to be that way.
Load More Replies...There are too much people everywhere. We are a social species, but the Planet is overpopulated and it's overwhelming. I believe, it's one of the causes, why it seems everyone is going crazy these days.
The problem is that we’re forced to be with other people (and not necessarily compatible people) too much of the time. If you work full-time, and have a partner, you have to stay up late to get any time to yourself at all. People with kids don’t even get that.
Misuse of the word literally. Ugh. It's my pet peeve and it's a losing battle.
Ex: "I was literally dealing with s**t all day.". Unless you are a plumber or medical professional, no, no you weren't.
We live in an age of hyperbole. Everything can't be AWESOME or TOXIC or UNBELIEVABLE. I know it's about getting the clicks and views but these words have lost all meaning.
Welllll, it kind of is a losing battle. At some point, the word ‘literally’ became…not so literal anymore. Now it’s just become a hyperbole.
What word should I use when I literally mean "literally?"
Load More Replies...Or a janitor, or in child care, or public works, etc... a lot of people deal with shít all day.
I do as well, but only because I have a lot of pets XD
Load More Replies...I agree, but it is now common enough that literally all dictionaries agree that “literally” does not mean “literally”.
Language evolves. It always has evolved. Getting annoyed about it is a waste of energy.
Evolution does not guarantee improvement. Politics in the US has evolved, for an example. It isn't our noticing that makes it annoying - or worse.
Load More Replies... All kinds of cosmetic surgery, Botox, veneers, facelifts, but lifts, vaginal rejuvenation, ,
Also face tattoos, face piercings and other body modifications.
I met a woman recently who obviously had a lot of Botox and some implants. I swear to you that NOTHING on that woman's face moved except her eyeballs and her lips that moved only enough to speak. No expressions at all. Her smile was just slightly bared teeth with no crinkle in her cheeks or around her mouth. It was sooo weird!
People who regularly take Botox for years seem to happily forget that facial muscles are like any other muscles. If you don't use them, you lose them. Atrophied muscles make your face sag. Anyone who has had surgery or broken a bone knows how quickly muscles atrophy and how difficult it is to train and rehabilitate them.
The only way I would do any plastic surgery is to fix a serious injury. Vag rejuvenation those chicks are crazy as hell!
Mmm, I don’t know. I think if you go too far with those things, you probably need psychological help. But a little self-decoration can be fun and creative.
Letting your kids get away with disrespect.
Since I treat the mini dino respectfully I never had an issue with her treating me disrespectfully. Children learn by imitating you
People need to teach their kids better. My kids didn't dare do anything like that.
Intergenerational fighting.
We were taught to respect our elders which admittedly does have it's challenges. Personally I think respect is earned. However I do think that the people before us know some things we can benefit from. Either by how things were done or how things can be improved upon. Also, younger people have things older generations can learn from too.
I think that blaming "boomers" for (enter grievance here) and/or calling younger generations "lazy" (or whatever) is manufactured infighting that just hurts everyone.
We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self-control." inscribed on a 6,000-year-old Egyptian tomb. >>> "What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets, inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?" - Plato 400bce >>> "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint ... As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behaviour and dress." - 1274 Peter the Hermit
Nothing new. When I was a teenager in the 1960s, there was widespread talk about the "Generation Gap". And "Children are now tyrants not servants of their household. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” - Socrates, over 2000 years ago.
You get my respect on first contact. After that it's yours to lose.
Personally, I think it's more courtesy rather than true respect - which can't really exist for someone you don't know (not in the simplest definition of the word respect). Being polite & considerate, absolutely. I will be courteous to people unless they give me a reason not to be. Then, as I get to know someone, they will earn respect or not. Age, status etc are also irrelevant. Just my view.
Load More Replies...Yea well when your mum, hits, kick call you a forking piece of xhit for no apparent reason maybe respect has gone out the window.
Are they kidding? We were the "never trust anyone over 30" generation.
Boomers use their electoral power to enrich themselves and then they pulled up the ladder so that the future generations would not have the same advantages. I remember think we (gen x) had it bad but I pity the younger generations who will never enjoy the prosperity we enjoyed while also having to pay the consequences of past generations in ways that will ensure their lives are a struggle.
May I please interject once again that ALL boomers are not the same. We are not a monolith.
Load More Replies...Not thanking someone for a gift.
There is always the J.D. Vance exception. (Or whatever he's calling himself this week.)
Rudeness!
To be fair, I would gladly suffer someone being rude if they would just do what they're supposed to. You don't need check fix my car or ring out my groceries with a smile. I'd rather you called me a tw-at-waffle and get me moving for a fair price and only honest mistakes vs careless ones. Competence will always beat manners for me.
Guns everywhere.
I would add violence everywhere. TV crime shows, sic fi, historical all have to much violence. I stated watching a Sic Fi post apocalic series, the violence was to graphic and in slow motion, completely unnecessary. Limbs being severe in great detail with gory blood everywhere. It's like they had to fill the 50mins so let's slow it down.
Every American has a right to a gun. It says so in the Constitution. Just like every person born on American soil is granted citizenship. It says so in the Constit.....wait, what? That cant' fly. Rip that part out. This thing is a la carte, right?
Its only an issue because americans allow it. Its easily changed. Other countries made that choice and its never been bought up again.
So much this. Maybe we should put all the gun nuts together on an island, with all the weapons they want. They’d have nobody to shoot but each other. The problem would probably solve itself in about a year.
I feel like people are nosier than they used to be.
Mhm. The other day, I went to the hospital for something and I had this file with me with past prescriptions and stuff. I was sitting in the waiting room, bored. This little girl was in front of me, and then she got up and left with her mother. As she was walking past my chair, she practically bent over me to sneak a glance at my file. I could literally see her hungrily staring at it. I responded by just staring straight at her, and she eventually got uncomfortable and looked away.
I read "nosier" as "noisier" and was very confused as to what this had to do with the post. Perhaps it's bedtime.
Load More Replies... People having p**n in the palm of their hand available at any time, particularly from young ages. That is worrisome.
The other is hard for me but I have to accept that language changes: the common use of phrases such as “between him and I.” I have to bite my tongue from correcting people and recognize the tide has turned. Goodbye, objective case! It was nice knowing you!
I'm not a native English speaker. I will never understand or accept how that stupidity came about. It's "for him/for me" - where does "for him and *I*" come from? It's "my acquaintance" and "my hubby's acquaintance" where does "my hubby and *I's*" come from?
Adults, men and women, being perfectly hairless. No thank you.
You're free to your tastes, but, please, don't shame us for preferring to be bare. I have a beard that hurts when it grows, so I shave it off every now and then when I begin to feel prickly.
guess thats a matter of taste, personally i prefer hairless.
The acceptance of using the word "Literally" when the person really means "Figuratively".
Burns my britches.
People who talk or use their phones in a movie theater. I no longer go to the theaters because of it, and I'd like to see movies again!
The fact that libraries are not quiet sanctuaries anymore.
I hate going to theaters because they have the volume way to LOUD. The last few times we went I took earplugs with me I could hear everything and did have a headache when it was over.
Adults using foul language in front of children.
People who clutch their pearls and get all prissy over light profanity (I agree excessive profanity is bad.) People who think children need to be kept ridiculously innocent, instead of letting them become street-smart enough to stay out of danger.
Where do the children learn this foul language?
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Orange marmalade for a PB&J...HEATHENS!!
It seems that people never “take one for the team” or suck it up and endure a few hours of being around a family member they don’t like. I can’t stand my SIL but a few times a year I play nice and am cordial at a large family gathering for the sake of keeping the peace. Did it k**l me? Nope. It just seems like now it’s all about someone being labeled toxic and therefore I won’t be around them. I am not talking about physical or mental abuse, never should a person subject themselves to an unsafe situation. I am taking your basic “I don’t get along with them because they are a certain political supporter etc. Just f*****g suck it up for a few hours, not everyone is your cup of tea. Get over it.
Why should we be forced to "suck it up" and "get over it" if we don't want to be around a family member we hate or is abus!ve to us?
Hate and abúse are one thing, but if, say, aunt Annie is annoying me with her shrill laughter, cousin Jack can't stop blabbering about is job, or my sister is prone to nagging me about my lacking fashion sense then sucking it up for one day (possibly snarking back occasionally or sitting next to someone else 9/10) is my way to go. You can burn bridges only once, and there will be collateral damage. We all have our flaws, and tolerance and solidarity goes both ways. Cut off toxic people - definitely. But start a fight over every annoyance only if you make better friends easily and/or enjoy life as a recluse.
Load More Replies...What is the benefit though? You have a horrible time and a*****e people feel validated. For what? Just because you happen to share DNA? That is not my idea of what a family should be like.
This is to Becky who was downvoted. You don't need blood to make a family. OP referred to family in the blood sense I suspect, but people need to stop putting so much worth in blood. Family are the people that support you. If you have relatives who want to harm your way of life, that isn't support nor is it family. I don't owe anyone anything just because we are related.
Load More Replies...Well if the certain political supporter backs someone who thinks certain people don't deserve basic human rights, why stick around? Why endure being around people you dislike for others?
In a time when "being a certain political supporter" means they are okay with abuse, a rapist in charge, racism, sexism, and / or genocide - nope. I don't have to "suck it up" to such shytes "for the peace". If the family peace is so important, why don't you suggest they stay at home and "suck it up"? Sounds very much as if OP is one of the people we try to avoid....
If it feels like condoning terrible people, just say no. I can acknowledge that people have different opinions, but if you can't be civil and keep your mouth shut for one meal, you don't deserve my company.
Load More Replies...When your sister tell everyone that your alcoholic coke-ain w***e mongering dead beat. Accuses you of stealing, lies about her husband abusing her and not working. All lies you don't what to be in the same stayas her
Being a certain political supporter needs to be made socially unacceptable, like smoking indoors or spitting. And unpleasant people will never learn to be better if people tolerate them.
Adults playing with children. Our parents loved us and spent time with us at the dinner table or watching a show or going on trips but adults did not play games with children. No adult I knew would play Candyland, or Life with us and the idea that a grown person would get involved in our imagination games was ludicrous. We children played amongst ourselves and had a lot of independence because of it.
I think parents today interfere too much in their kid's games and activities and in their relationships. Let the kids figure out it themselves, they're more capable than you think .
Wow, even my mother would play Chinese Checkers and Rummy with me. That wasn't interfering, that was valuable parent-child time.
My parents played games with us in the 60s. I feel sorry for OP.
Load More Replies...Life was one of my father's favorite board games, and yes, we had family night where we played games together. In the early years, children's board games, later card games, such as UNO and Mille Bornes, ending up with poker, rummy, hearts, and spades. Fun family times.
Up vote for mille bornes, it was my favorite card game when I was a kid
Load More Replies...Played a lot of card games and board with my parents, they even let me run a little DnD with them when I was 13. We used to play trivial pursuit when I was older and the hardest part was thinking up questions for my kid sister who couldn't answer normal questions - we had to make up ones that she would have a chance to get without making it too easy. So yeah, parents and kids played together a lot when I was a kid.
My kid wants me to play with her all the time, it can get a bit much for me tbh
When I was little, my absolute favorite thing in the world was a record player that I took nearly everywhere. Weekend visitation with dad, I'm taking the record player. My dad had an older sister who looked just like Lucille Ball. She would sit in the floor with me and we would play records all afternoon long. I don't have many memories of my father, but I remember Aunt Shirley very fondly. RIP Aunt Shirley.
Nose rings and lip rings. They are repulsive; also giant ear lobe plugs.
I disagree except the ear lobe plugs lol those are WEIRD but you do you. Thinking of getting a nose ring and a lip ring but my mum wont agree to lip ring
The word f**k, is now an acceptable word, so many people of all ages, but mostly young, use it like it’s any other word! It’s on TV, social media, everywhere!
So much of an improvement to hear fúck or shìt compared to the racist, homophobic and misogynistic language that was casually acceptable in the 1970s and 80s. Nobody ever committed a hate crime because of the word fúck.
There are a *lot* of word that are harmful, and "f**k" isn't one of them. No one is harmed if I blurt out "f**k!" after impaling my foot on a piece of wire.
Actually it has been shown that it is in no way a sign of a limited vocabulary. I like to think that my knowledge of the English language is reasonably extensive and I love a good 'fuq and qunt'.
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Tattoos. On the one hand, I love seeing the creativity and the commitment to people’s interests On the other hand, I grew up with the idea that tattoos were either acceptable because the guys who had them were veterans or completely unacceptable and trashy. My nieces and nephew have several so I know my attitude is stupid, but my first reaction is always a little shocked.
I am prevented from getting a tattoo by noting how all my other long term decisions have turned out.
I do still find facial tattoos uncomfortable to see but not my body, not my place to judge.
Depends on what, where, and quality of tattoos. Admittedly I'm biased since I have tattoos
The quality of the tat is where I stick. Some tats are absolutely hideous or inappropriate, most tats are just so-so, and some are absolutely lovely. I like small ones that obviously were carefully thought out and have some meaning, even if only known to the wearer. I guess you might say all tats have meaning, but some are just so generic and blah. Often someone with lots of black tats wind up with such a visual mish-mash it just looks like scribbling.
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One of the more interesting tattoos I’ve seen was one a graduate biology student who had a DNA helix on her waistline. Very appropriate, although her jeans had to be fairly low-cut to see the tat.
welllllllll idk honestly small tattoos are okay sometimes theyre cute but like those sleeve tattoos are kinda weird but again each to their own
Never got one, never wanted one, and the only one I might ever get is "DNR".
I have two, a Bald Eagle on my left breast (usually never seen by the public as I don't go shirtless), and a butterfly on the inside of my left forearm. Those were enough.
Kids not learning cursive.
As someone who grew up in the 80s/90s and who learned cursive: lol, no. I haven't used/written in cursive since I was in grade school.
Should we also learn calligraphy since it was also considered a refined skill?
At least learn to read it even if you don't feel the need to write it. You will never be able to access older, historical documents otherwise. I grew up in the 60s, and I still use cursive.
How many people have to access historical documents these days? Everything is online.
Load More Replies...I use half cursive, half printing when I write out of habit, but otherwise, whatever. It's not an important skill, really. The more important skill to teach kids is how to print legibly.
I enjoy a lot of flexibility because my handwriting is illegible in both.
Load More Replies...It feels strange, since it was so absolutely normal for me that everyone could write cursive. You didn't question it any more than you questioned learning multiplication. But apparently people can go through life without it now. I'm writing a lot by hand and would find writing in block capitals too cumbersome and slow. It's really a question for experts.
Why waste 10,000 hours of a child's valuable time in school learning an outdated skill? There were Victorians complaining about how children weren't being taught how to use a writing slate because "what will they do when there isn't any paper available?" Same energy.
If you need 10,000 hours to learn to read cursive you're pretty slow. A couple of weeks spent learning cursive opens up a lot of information. Cursive is now like this class divider and code to keep the plebs out. At least teach kids enough to parse out what's written. They don't have to write essays. (Although essays are faster written in cursive than print, even if mine are illegible.)
Load More Replies...Proposing in public. To do that in front of people who are total strangers - why? Gives me second hand embarrassment. Know people got proposed to top of Empire State Building- nothing original. I came out of Dublin airport to see some young lad in what looked like he was wearing daddy’s borrowed suit … down on one knee waiting with the box open for his girlfriend to come. God knows how long he was in that position.We all had to walk around him with our suitcases. He looked ridiculous. And as I said … why in front of people u don’t even know?
Also, proposing at somebody else’s wedding. It’s awkward and weird and it’s their special day, not yours.
Load More Replies...Living in a society that’s largely been duped into thinking that every issue, every discussion, every political statement, every part of our communities are based on binary choices and polarised opinions. It them vs us, it’s good vs bad, it’s men vs women, we are right they are wrong. There’s no room for compromise or understanding, there’s no attempt to find common ground to work from, there’s no space to allow nuances to be discussed, no one seeking a path to reconciliation or trying to find people who will come together and talk. It saddens me that those who shout about being patriots are unable to understand that there are patriots who aren’t their skin colour, or s*x, or who share their political beliefs. If there’s a difference then the arguing is just around the corner and it’ll be I’m right, you are wrong. Sad, so very sad.
It's hard to find common ground with someone who literally believes my son shouldn't exist, or my daughter should stay pregnant if she's ràped. Conservatives want to take our rights away!
Load More Replies...Blaming previous generations for everything wrong in their Gen Z lives.
Some were pretty good but way too many of these exhibited the ignorance that led us to where we are.
Proposing in public. To do that in front of people who are total strangers - why? Gives me second hand embarrassment. Know people got proposed to top of Empire State Building- nothing original. I came out of Dublin airport to see some young lad in what looked like he was wearing daddy’s borrowed suit … down on one knee waiting with the box open for his girlfriend to come. God knows how long he was in that position.We all had to walk around him with our suitcases. He looked ridiculous. And as I said … why in front of people u don’t even know?
Also, proposing at somebody else’s wedding. It’s awkward and weird and it’s their special day, not yours.
Load More Replies...Living in a society that’s largely been duped into thinking that every issue, every discussion, every political statement, every part of our communities are based on binary choices and polarised opinions. It them vs us, it’s good vs bad, it’s men vs women, we are right they are wrong. There’s no room for compromise or understanding, there’s no attempt to find common ground to work from, there’s no space to allow nuances to be discussed, no one seeking a path to reconciliation or trying to find people who will come together and talk. It saddens me that those who shout about being patriots are unable to understand that there are patriots who aren’t their skin colour, or s*x, or who share their political beliefs. If there’s a difference then the arguing is just around the corner and it’ll be I’m right, you are wrong. Sad, so very sad.
It's hard to find common ground with someone who literally believes my son shouldn't exist, or my daughter should stay pregnant if she's ràped. Conservatives want to take our rights away!
Load More Replies...Blaming previous generations for everything wrong in their Gen Z lives.
Some were pretty good but way too many of these exhibited the ignorance that led us to where we are.
