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While good professors and teachers become an inspiration you carry within you throughout your life, toxic professors are just as common. Sadly, they make the academic environment poisonous with their words and actions.

From the sense of entitlement and the feeling that they are above the rules to offensive behavior, there are many ways they wreak havoc on your student life. What makes it particularly challenging to deal with difficult educators is that they can be found in every field and at every level of academia, from adjuncts to full professors. And their words carry a lot of weight.

But there seem to be red flags that instantly scream that you would be better off changing the class rather than staying in. “What are some red flags for teachers that scream ‘drop this class immediately?’” someone asked on Ask Reddit, and people started sharing endless real-life experiences. Below we wrapped up some of the most tell-tale signs.

#1

“You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately I had a teacher that I loved but everyone hated. my economics teacher was an absolute madman. first day of econ- Madman- " FIRST RULE!.. ANY AND ALL CELLPHONES ARE TO REMAIN OFF!. IF I SEE YOU USING THEM, I WILL THROW THEM OUT THE DOOR!" **cellphone rings** *its his* **madman looks at class.. grabs cellphone and throws it out the door** Madman- " didn't need to talk to my wife anyway! "

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Sylvia Potts
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Finally, a teacher who doesn't think they're above the rules!

Jyri Hakola
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont' see that toxic. No cell phones is a reasonable rule and he was even able follow his own rule.

Chris berkley
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My favorite teachers have always been the ones who you could tell was about 1% away from a nervous breakdown and major psychotic break, they have the most meme worthy moments

Rachel Ainsworth
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably a set up. I bet you it wasn't their brand new smartphone.

Ali H M Salehuddin
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd say he got caught off guard. To salvage his reputation, he had to throw away his phone.

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CG
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Practice what you preach, lol.

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    #2

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately WHEN THEY READ THE POWERPOINTS WORD FOR WORD. I.CAN.DO.THAT.AT.HOME. TEACH PLS.

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    Tams21
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the first rules of making a PowerPoint presentation is to keep the text to a minimum - simple bullet points will do. You then verbally elaborate on those when giving the presentation. When there's lots of text people will concentrate on the text and not on you. It also defeats the purpose of a presentation when the same could be achieved through handouts.

    Fester Sixonesixonethree
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tried for months to convince my boss of Tams21's rule. I finally just gave him a cut down version and asked him to use it on his next presentation. He did so and got far more positive feedback than he had previously. At least he was capable of learning - if he wasn't too busy micromanaging. Drove me mad...

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    FactcheckerGeneral
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! I hate this in any context. I can read it myself faster than someone else can read it out. Elaborate!

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a teacher who did this, who also PRINTED out all her presentations, ONE SLIDE per page! She said she had to use other teacher's photocopy code to do her printing because she used all her copy allowance, and it was only first term :). I have to give her credit though, the slides were all in dot point format, it's just she didn't elaborate on most of them during the presentation. She did that during other parts of the lesson and those slides were great for studying for the exams.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on if it's for a conference paper or a classroom lecture. I'll sometimes let a classroom slide do the heavy lifting with a full definition written out. I've seen some amazing PPs, though, where the presenters manage to use the technology to add to the paper's meaning. I ain't that good.

    Adam Forwood
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens at work too and it drives me insane. I can read a lot quicker than you can talk - give me information I haven't just read off the screen

    DaFetus
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This, in college that's all most instructors do...the kicker is they release the power points to you a month before so you already studied it all. If you are lucky you can ask a question if the instructor is not taken off track by another student. If you release power points do not read them use class to teach, if I read it already I don't need you to read it to me...

    Susan Bosse
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My American History professor would tell us highlight from here to here, here to here, etc., etc., etc. That was it. That's what was always on the tests. Had to take him for two semesters. It was awful.

    Nameless 4
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even worse if they repeatedly mispronounce words and feel the need to go on lengthy tangents about dumb thungs

    Rachel Ainsworth
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Except as an ex-teacher I can guarantee that no one would read at home if that was homework. This also applies to many work places where you need to read out the PowerPoint as no one will look at it in advance.

    Lizzy Crit
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In that case, don't make attendance mandatory, because I DO read it at home and classes like that are a total waste of my time. So are work meetings like that, but at least then I'm getting paid for it.

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    #3

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "These books are required for the class. I wasn't able to get the revision into the bookstore in time, so the only place you can get them is from me directly or from my website. I will warn you, if you don't buy the books you won't get the login information to be able to take the final, which is 90% of your grade." "Oh, and no, I can't accept financial aid for them, but it's only $250 so it's not a big deal." Never seen an entire class get up 5 minutes in and leave before.

    inibrius , Katerina Holmes Report

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds so scammy...Students should be able to get their tuition payed back to them for the class...straight out of the profs bank account.

    Ivo H
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $250 for a book is a scam in the first place.

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    Šimon Špaček
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OK, one thing is "give me $250 and I will let you pass", but "give me $250 and I will let you try the test" is somehow even worse. I know, the first one is plain bribery and that is morally wrong. Is it still happening? Yes. Should it stop? Sure. But at least other people can succeed too. You have to study hard and you can pass. This is like the manager, that bribed his waitresses with more hours in work for "personal service" if you know what I mean...

    Ladedah
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I thought it was a bit of a grab when my professor made us all buy the textbook that he authored himself...

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buying books was one of my bigger hardships in school, until I worked at a bookstore, and could get many at a discount. Now, I will not only lend a student my personal copy, but I make sure there's a reserve shelf of course books at the library, and oh, do we have codes and PDFs to pass around! But esp., I make sure that at least 2/3-3/4 of the reading assignments are public domain. That's the up side about working with old books, and not everyone can manage it.

    Lene
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Teachers did this occasionally when I went to uni. We always found the books 2nd hand or at the library and we copied them. Not 100% legal but it saved us so much money!

    Iifa A.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't this illegal? .. I have only bought books I thought useful, that's two in between three degrees. Material and access to articles is provided by the college who I paid for a service.

    Biofish23
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US it's common to have a required book (or books) for each class. The tens of thousands we pay in tuition doesn't cover the books, which are often several hundred a piece. The best you can hope for is to find it used and then sell it at the end of the course.

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    When asked whether he had a toxic teacher, Wong confirmed that he has had a few bad teachers. “Being so young, I didn’t know how to deal with the situation. One of the teachers I had was for an elective in high school, French. I should have just chosen another course since it wasn't worth the misery,” he recounted. 

    Another teacher Wong had was for a required course in college so this option would have ben much more difficult. “For both situations, I didn’t say anything and I just tried my best to improve as a student.”

    #4

    Pride in the difficulty of their course. If everyone fails, it's not for an inability to learn, but for an inability to teach.

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    Britches are for everyone
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on why the class is difficult. If you've created obscure, unreasonable expectations for the students and that's why it's difficult, then that's just being an a*****e. But if you hold your students to a reasonable but high expectation because you believe they can do it, there's nothing wrong with that.

    Justme
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I used to teach - I would give a pre-test before the final. It would be almost identical to the final. I would tell the students that this is actually a test for me, to make sure I’ve covered everything before the final and the pre-test didn’t count towards their grade at all.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm proud my class is tough and not what students expect, in fact. I usually have about 2-3 out of 25-ish fail per term, and a few more who ghost/go missing, but my student evals have been consistent for decades about "this class was tough, and not what I expected, but I got so much out of it, more than I ever thought!" *cracks knuckles* You bet!

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thankfully never met a teacher like that. In fact one teacher was practically crying because she spent a whole lesson almost, one on one with me and I still couldn't understand surds!

    Sebastian M
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, it can absolutely be both.

    Joanne Taylor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES. I would thrilled when my entire class earned A-range grades

    AmAndA_Panda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My high school chemistry teacher told us most of his students fail. But it wasn't out of pride. He hated teaching chemistry.

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    #5

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately No one will get an A in this course because (insert some philosophical highbrow b******t answer)

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    Little Wonder
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "No one will get an A in this course because I am not capable of teaching people that well"

    (Anti)Social Penguin
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve met some teachers with this philosophy. 10 is for God, 9 is for the teacher, 8 is for geniuses. If you were studying hard you would get an 7. Mind you, the passing grade was 5.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had ONE class where the prof said this, and I dropped it. Once we started having online course reviews available, I saw that I was far from the only one. It had the highest drop-out rate -- almost double -- of any other class at school. Learning is important, and grades CAN be a false construct, but also? Some of us need 'em for grad school and jobs.

    Kimberley McMillan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a film class prof tell us that it was impossible to get an F and if by some weird way you managed to get an F, he would give you an A.

    Joanne Taylor
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HATE this. I would never do that. I had semesters where a full class of students earned As

    DragonflyGreen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've heard that twice in my life, and both times I and another student got a A.

    Wondering Alice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of did this as a teacher. I told kids grades were between me and them and to expect a lot of C's which ment I was perfectly satisfied with their work. Anyone capable of getting better grades would be moved to a faster paced class. I did reassure them though on report cards anyone averaging a C in class would get an A as I knew parents expected A's if the kid was working fine.

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    #6

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Had a drawing professor that put a stack of pre-signed withdrawal forms on his desk. Told us to grab one when we were ready.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Relatable, actually. Deeply relatable.

    KING ILLEGAL FOREST
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wish my drawing professor had given us that option. It was a required class (freshman year at art uni) and my drawing prof absolutely LOATHED me because I did not act impressed enough when he showed the class photos of him meeting Cindy Lauper.

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. My art unit the teacher said something basically along the lines of, no one can really draw and that's okay, it's not required. Then his lessons showed us that we could often achieve more than we expected.

    Hannah Kirtley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    would have grabbed on right then and left. if ur already expecting me to hate ur class enough to have presigned forms... bye

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    #7

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Professor claimed she didn’t allow people to step out of class to use the bathroom. “You’re all adults, not children, you can hold it.” Exactly lady. We’re adults, we paid to be here, and adults have to use the bathroom.

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    Wood Carver
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love when adults try to tell other adults they aren't allowed to pee.... I once asked my friend with whom we were driving to pull over as I needed to pee.... he said you can wait till we get home.... then he had to pull over because he was bleeding and dizzy all of a sudden to quote John pinette rip

    Remi (He/Him)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adults can hold it in normal conditions. Rule like this is gonna be so much "fun" for people with IBS and such though. Adults also know that there are sometimes emergencies and can judge when there is one.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is also something that we as profs want and need to know, so tell us. I always include an introductory component for my students for this reason (and because no one considered my personal circumstances when I was a student). Let the prof know if you're a caregiver, or have a long commute, or are in the middle of a divorce. Anything that will affect your class performance and time management. So yeah, just tell your prof "I have IBS and will sit in the chair closest to the door in case I need to duck out." As long as you aren't disruptive, most of us are fine with accommodating just about anything so you can learn.

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    Caramello
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we are adults and not kids, then we're old enough to not need a bathroom pass or permission for a basic human function.

    Britches are for everyone
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is also why I never took attendance as a professor. You are adults. Show up to class if you want to learn this subject and do well in the class.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That only works for some courses, though. Others are discussion based, and assignments are developed in class, targeted for the students in that class. There will be multiple perspectives on a text, not "one right answer" to memorize for a test. For a final essay, you need to be able to demonstrate you've understood the material in discussion, with nuance, as well as your own insights. If you register for a class but cannot attend the class, don't take the class. It is a waste of time and money.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every so often, we'll have an issue that starts off innocuous, but needs managing. One term, I had two kids that brought in booze in their portable coffee cups. If it had turned into a bigger problem, I might have had to say "No outside beverages." Yes, adults should be able to have drinks, but sometimes we have to manage things to keep the class on track, because 28 other people also paid to be there, and you're taking away from their educations.

    Justme
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were walking through a tourist town shopping and I had to go. I asked the shopkeeper if there was a restroom I could use. He acted like he wasn’t going to let me use it until I told him, “Sir, I’m going to pee whether you let me use the restroom or not.” He immediately pointed the way.

    KING ILLEGAL FOREST
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I never asked to use the bathroom in classes, I just got up and walked out as quietly as I could so as not to disrupt anyone. Got in trouble for it a bunch of times in high school, but by the end of my senior year, 3 of my teachers had made it their policy that any student could just get up and go to the bathroom without asking.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the way to do it in college, actually. This is the way to manage most things: quietly, without disrupting the rest of the class. Glad it worked at your high school, too.

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    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first thing we were told in our information session at the start of my degree was 'you are adults now, you don't have to ask for permission to go to the toilet. Just leave without making to much noise.' Apparently that is the number one thing first years are unsure about :)

    Fester Sixonesixonethree
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand if no one can leave during an exam - but otherwise, "p**s off."

    Raven Null
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The same thing happens at our school, except we're all 12-13-14

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    #8

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Personal experience, I literally dropped 4 classes my sophomore year .... Prior to starting the classes the disability department contacted all of my teachers to tell them that I am deaf and that I would need some form of written/typed paper to follow along with lectures. "Im completely deaf ....." "sit closer, i cant give you special treatment"

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    Laura Ketteridge
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Illegal in many countries. Once notification has been given that a student or employee has a disability or illness that requires accommodations to be made, it is illegal not to provide them.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very illegal. Most of us will have resources and contacts for you. At least two of my colleagues I can think of right now are deaf and use some of the same ones. Remember, this is one shitty story and may be an old one, too. Most of your profs know that we are legally as well as morally required to help you with accessibility issues to the best of our abilities, and we're happy to do so.

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    - JM1951
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is "some form of written paper" even enough? What's the point of showing up, if you just get to read the notes later? You should be assigned a sign language interpreter to accompany you to classes at their expense. Inclusion means inclusion.

    SCamp
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Deaf students at my university have 2 signers for lectures and tutorials (they relieve each other every 15 minutes) and a note taker so the student can concentrate solely on what is being said/signed

    Yugan Talovich
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's terrible. I once had a student who had to use binoculars to see the blackboard from the first row. We all made sure he had a seat front and middle.

    DaFetus
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would not fly here, no students would allow it, we would contact the administration immediately and there would be action taken. Where is this?

    CG
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not so much a deaf student, but there was this one guy in my elementary school/high school who had very poor eyesight, and needed a digital copy of the notes + a computer in class to be able to learn and participate. He's a very smart guy too, and every teacher was allowed the computer.

    JP Purves
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, it's best for me to sit further away, like in another classroom, with another teacher.

    Carly Romer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m Deaf. I had access to ASL (American Sign Language) interpreters for the entirety of my higher education (6 years of University/College). That was awesome. High school sucked as my IEP couldn’t allow for ASL interpreters, only Oral Interpreters (stupid school board…) And yes, it’s illegal not to provide accommodations such as sign language interpreters and/or CAFT system as needed.

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    #9

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Think that their students should only focus on this particular class for the upcoming semester as if they should spend all their time on it

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    Pumpkin Spice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My chem teacher, on the first day of school, said, "I will not give you homework on Fridays or anything that is due the next day. I'll give you as little homework as possible; you have seven other classes, after all." He's my favorite.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    GOD, THIS. I was working 2-3 jobs, and in the middle of massive personal upheaval during undergrad. I had a couple of profs tell me "Maybe you should quit your job so you can focus on school." At the time, you couldn't yell "Who the f**k is going to pay for school if I do that, a*****e?!" When I tried to politely point that out, instead, I got "Can't your parents help you? Can't you get a loan?" (This, btw, is why I support student loan forgiveness even if I don't personally benefit.) Um, dude, I'm not working multiple jobs for the fun of it, you f*****g k**b. This is why I also do an hours-of-work breakdown for my own students. Yes, if you want an A, it will take about 10-15 hrs of work a week. Figuring out how to make that work with your personal circumstances is one of those skills some call "adulting"...but your profs will also have resources for that, too.

    ThatBiBookLover
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    EXACTLY! My maths teacher is like this and I hate her :( also she so obviously favours another class it hurts

    •🧿•DJ•🧿•
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My science teacher has a favorite class and I’m in it. It’s cool sometimes but she’s so unfair to the other classes. She gave us ICECREAM we were the only class who got ice cream. It was nice, but I felt so bad for all the other people. I can’t imagine how they felt about that.

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    kath morgan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had teachers like that in high school, acting like their class was the most important.

    Fester Sixonesixonethree
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grrr... I had enough of that in high school! I'd drop a class before i'd get that involved.

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    #10

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "No laptops, all code will be handwritten." Yes that really happened.

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    Iifa A.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was actually quite standard for exams and tests. I remember when we did them in computer lab in college and whole class ended up getting 100 just because we ended up sharing answers. Next semester we handwrote the code and a lot of failed on basics. You'd be surprised how hard it is to do tests in coding in a classroom setting with 250-303 people in class.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, guys, we HAVE to know how to do things without laptops sometimes. Obv, there are exceptions for accessibility issues, but this isn't toxic. This is learning multiple methods. You'll be glad when you have to problem-solve a tech issue and all the tech is down.

    Jyri Hakola
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe bit demanding but is that toxic ??

    Remi (He/Him)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely normal at least in the late 90's, but then again back then as a TA I had to lead a practical exercises groups with nothing more than a projector, transparent films and markers in multiple colors. First time having an actual computer in programming practice was an eye opener 😅

    DaFetus
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is common and you should be able to write out your code in any editor. If all you know how to do is copy and paste from a notepad you're not ready to progress. Know the code, we use 500 different editors, paper is no different a side from there being no way to cheat.

    Bryan W.
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "paper is no different". I have to respectfully disagree here. Even with 20 years exp and fluency in of dozens of languages, I don't write code top to bottom, left to right and even if I did the chances of me getting even a simple method perfect on the first pass are about 50%. Not to mention real code is quite finicky and exacting when it comes to character meaning compared to the "fuzzy" meaning of handwritten work. Finally, while it is a nice little elitist badge of honor to be able to proclaim "I can do it in Notepad", it has no actual value in practice beyond extreme edge cases. It should be the mark of an experienced senior, not a requirement for someone just starting off in Uni. You might as well be asking them to do it in machine code with punch cards. Good way to drive off the future with boredom before they even get to the good stuff.

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    Hobby Hopper
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They used to *have* to write code by hand just because entering code was a tedious, time consuming process, and computation time was expensive. There was none of this change a little code and run it to see what happens over and over, because it wasn't practical. I think the teaching style of writing code by hand was a hold-over from that era for a long time, and then when things swung the other way, it just became too easy to cheat if you were using a computer.

    Benita Valdez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Early 2000's we weren't allowed to use a laptop in any class unless you had a disability.

    Lemaire
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My intro CS class (Java) was done this way. Class was graded on a bell curve (half would receive a 2.8 or lower grade, half would receive a 2.9 or higher) It was very difficult, but at the end of the quarter, I very much felt that I had earned my grade

    Boris Long-Johnson
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What’s wrong with that? My entire software dev exam at Uni was in code books no computers so that you had to use your brain not code references etc! Marking took into account the lack of references and only 50% of the final grade was exam the rest were a number of code deliverables in various languages, C, x86 assembly and Java. This sounds like someone being a bit sensitive.

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    #11

    Over the winter break of my freshman year I was diagnosed with a degenerative bone disease in my knees which meant I had to use crutches for a while (then eventually a wheelchair for a time). I was late to my philosophy 101 class (due to adjusting to my newfound limitations). I apologized for my tardiness and tried to find my seat without making a fuss. As I was making my way across the classroom my philosophy teacher remarked “everyone, let’s just patiently wait for the cripple here to get to his seat.” It’s possible she had believed I was one of several skiing injuries that the student body had incurred over winter break, but either way after that first day I never came back to that class.

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    Wood Carver
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Discrimination earns lawsuits. Punish this horrible practice with the hammer of law

    ThisIsMe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please tell me you reported that teacher!

    CG
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sounds like a firing offence for the teacher.

    Wondering Alice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once assisted a kid in a lesson in a portocabin which the class had been sent to because the lift was broken so the kid who was in a wheelchair could not get to the usual class. Teacher spent first half of the lesson complaining about 'the whole class suffering because of special treatment' I don't know about the 2nd half, as I took the kid and left. I put in a complaint, but was told to lighten up, it was humour. Following year, I was assigned to a child with serious learning and behavioural problems in that teachers class. She refused to listen to me that he needed to sit with me at the back, saying if he needs special treatment he should be in a special school. So that was how her room got completely smashed up.

    JP Purves
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Answer: My knees are crippled; not my manners.

    #12

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Saw a course at my college called "Digital Media and American Culture." Sounds neat, I thought, I'll go to a lecture during the shopping period. The professor is 10 minutes late, an 80-year-old man, who gets up and literally asks a student in the front to tell him how many Facebook friends she has and then "how many REAL friends do you have?!" Was flabbergasted when he asked if anyone in the classroom had read "1984" and most of the class raised their hands. He was 100% convinced that millennials never pick up books anymore. Yeah, no.

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    Marcello
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bad question too, as 1984 is famously the book most people lie about claiming to have read it.

    Remi (He/Him)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also even if you've read it, it's so saturated as a talking point everywhere these days that it's hard to remember what's in the book and what people claim based on the book. I've read it about 25 years ago and I have just about zero _reliable_ memories on it.

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    Cyndielouwhoo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The stock art "teacher" is super creepy and doesn't look anywhere near the anecdote's description.

    Fester Sixonesixonethree
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a bad pairing of teacher and course material...

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    #13

    When I was 18 I took a Beauty Therapy and Science class. One of the units we had was business studies, I had previously sat an A Level in business so I still had notes and books left over. We didn't have the usual business teacher because she was signed off sick (Cancer I believe) so instead of getting a qualified teacher in, the department bought in a beauty salon manager who was a b***h. Knew nothing about teaching but thought she knew everything about business. First class we have, she's doing the "Introduce yourself" thing, then she asks "Who in this class is a Leo?" I raise my hand and its only me .... "Oh because in my star signs I ALWAYS clash with Leos. Sorry". Ok so we have a crazy b***h, the class is sat in a stunned silence as I simply say "Ok cool" The time comes to write the assignment for the class and me being savvy I used my old business class notes and books and hand it in with the biggest smile on my face. Results day. Everyone passes with high marks all except me. She has me up in front of my head tutor for "Plagerism" and "She's clearly copied and pasted all of this from the internet" my head tutor explained that "Shakenshake has sat a A-level in business so she should know what she's talking about" My head tutor re-marked my paper and passed it with a high merit. I later told her about what was said, regarding the star signs and how I felt attacked due to some insignificant fact about my birth sign. Next lesson she announces she's "Leaving due to my teaching methods being questioned and having a complaint" whilst glaring at me, the rest of the class was relieved.

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    - JM1951
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least the college had good procedure to correct the mis-grading and the guts to sack the tutor. However, what were they thinking employing her in the first place?

    Mike Allen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I majored in broadcasting and had a teacher who considered himself an "entrepreneur.", so of course, he decided to run a starting your own business class for a bunch of students destined for TV stations. It was really him going on about how awesome he was. I went to the head of the department and asked if I'd still graduate if I got a zero in this class. He told me I would, so I never showed up again.

    Stephanie A Mutti
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a jr high english teacher ask who was italian and then announce she hated italians. We were too young to know that that was unacceptable.

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    #14

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately My tenured organic chem professor asked, 'Any questions?' and 50 hands went up. He then said, 'It's a fairly simple concept, so you'll get there. Let's move on.

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    Monday
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's infuriating...why allow people to ask questions if you have no intention of answering them?

    Praegard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My HS physics teacher to a "T" Everything was "self explanatory"

    Benita Valdez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing about orgo is simple. NOTHING! I had a professor like that and many failed his class. Took 3 times to pass orgo1 and I changed my major after my second attempt at orgo 2. It wasn't a big change but went from BS to BA in biology (BA didn't require orgo)

    #15

    I once had a professor say "you get 2 absences this semester. More than 2 and you fail. It doesn't matter what the excuse is." Sorry, with older relatives who were sick and dying... and not being a psychic myself to know whether or not I'd get sick or if I'd forget to set an alarm, or any number of unforseable things... that level of rigidity and unwillingness to compromise isn't worth it.

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    jessica r
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the kind of class. Sometimes it has nothing to do with the reason for absence, you just have to practice some kind of skill or show during the course that you make progress.

    Monday
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. One of my courses allowed us a single absence, if we were absent for longer we'd have to redo it from the start because we simply wouldn't have the time to do everything we needed to do to complete the certification we were going for.

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    Britches are for everyone
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This whole idea of tracking attendance is a fool's errand, imo, and I say that as a former university professor. I tried to make my classroom time exciting, interesting, and necessary, but I also made sure a student could get some reasonable approximation of what happened in a class period whenever they needed it. It's up to the professor to create a needful setting in the classroom and a way of following along for a student who couldn't make it. I found that the students who had to miss a few classes didn't get stressed out about it, and if a student was sick for an extended period of time, I communicated with them often via email outside of class and recommended a visit after they felt better. BTW, the idea of an "excused" absence is absurd. Why should I bother to judge whether your excuse for not being in class is "legitimate" or not? The students who just blew off the class didn't do well, and that was just a consequence for them, not for me.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you miss three classes, you get dropped. This is standard admin stuff. If you want to pass the class, you need to attend it. You need to be there for the course discussion. The classroom setting is crucial to learning. HOWEVER, if you have a personal issue that means attending class will be difficult, let them know; I had a hellish 3 hour commute for undergrad, for example. OTOH, if you forgot to set your alarm, that is not a legitimate absence, and as a functional adult, you will need to be responsible for getting that material and making up that work. Don't forget, we also have about 3-6 "deaths" per semester with overwhelmed students. You need to be willing to compromise with us, too. We ain't getting paid and don't have the time to give you make-up work. We don't always have time or resources to check on all of our students after every missed class (if they even respond in the first place).

    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. My course had a certain percentage compulsory attendance that worked out to 2 lectures and one tutorial per unit (except for the two elective units). This was because it was a teaching degree, so you had to be able to show you know enough to become registered by the state. Despite compulsory attendance, you could get special considerations at any time you needed it if your attendance dropped below that, those ones were just the absences you didn't need to say anything about, whether that was a minor appointment clash or that you slept in (in my case one day the train I was on was delayed because someone had jumped on the tracks and while I could have just turned up late, it was halfway through the lecture and I couldn't be bothered after the tone of the train ride).

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    - JM1951
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So if the lecturer (I prefer the less grand UK name) is absent more than twice, does everyone get a pass?

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have yet to experience a college class where the lecturer is absent even once, except for the class where the prof had cancer, and wore an oxygen mask for a year.

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    CJ Kelly
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FAA regulations require a certain number of hours of attendance in many aviation courses, and it amounts to X amount of days in the semester- sometimes it's not the professor's doing.

    #16

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately In our first lecture, my professor for Intro to Communications said, 'I don't believe in the artificially inflated grading system we are experiencing, so I grade on a strict bell curve. There are 25 people in this class, so no matter how well everyone does, some of you are getting an F.' You may not care about that inflated grading system, but the job market and grad schools certainly do

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    Laura Ketteridge
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This shows a basic misunderstanding of statistics and how it should be applied.

    Remi (He/Him)
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Judging on a bell curve and not based on wether the student has learned the subject matter and how well is prime idiocy

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most unis I know won't allow teachers to do this anymore. There's usually a department- or university-wide standard grading system.

    Kim Kermes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "25 is not a statistical universe, and teachers should wish that everyone puts in the effort to earn an A by learning the material" I told the instructor who announced he graded on a curve, as I left the room to drop the class and talk to the head of the department.

    JP Purves
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grad schools may possibly care, but the job market doesn't give a toss what your grade for Intro to Communications is/was.

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    #17

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately 2-hour, in-class, pre-recorded PowerPoint lectures from 2008, 'because it saves time for me, and please don't ask questions until after the end of my PowerPoint'. This was in 2017.

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    Monday
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's fair to ask people to hold questions until the end...but at least deliver the bloody lecture yourself.

    Ashley Galyen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They have. That's why it's recorded . I find that this results in lecture consistency, good notes from previous students and higher grades. Nothing worse than a profesor who gives lectures and mentions an important test point to class A but not class B. But that point isn't found in any of the materials.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was a foundational lecture, this makes complete sense, especially with planned discussion after. Also, YOU ALWAYS SAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE END. That's not "toxic," that's professional, manageable, and organized.

    Agron54
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ll never understand why universities are this gate keeper to better jobs. Most programs are a complete waste of time

    Wondering Alice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a few lectures like this in Uni. It was back in the late 90's so more like videos of lectures. I don't see the problem here - lecturer is able to make absolutely sure he has given his best lecture (it's lecturing here, not teaching). We would pack in to a hall, watch while making notes and then half the class left, while those with questions could be dealt with effectively.

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    #18

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Back when I started college, I got straight A+s in a class, but when I went to check on my overall grade, I had a B+, found it odd and went to question my teacher about it, he said that he dropped down my grade because the class was a bit of a pain in the a*s (he didn't use those exact words, but thats what he meant) Then I questioned him again about my posture, asking if I did anything wrong, or disturbed class or whatever, he promptly said I didn't and that I was a great student, which made me ask again "Why is grade lower then", he told the same excuse from above, then I asked if he was planning on changing my grade at all, since I had only As, and he promply said he wasn't going to change. Fast forward a few days, I ended up filing a complaint about him and his method of grading students, and the college made him change my grade. After that he approached me and said something like "Hey u/Phorcyss you didn't have to file a complaint about me, I was gonna fix you grade" yada yada.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is absolutely one of those stories where we know there's likely a bunch of missing info.

    JP Purves
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sounds more like an elementary school teacher than college level.

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    #19

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately I had a professor that in hindsight I really should have dropped. It was a Western Civilization History class, and the first day the entirety of the class he spent talking about how he missed his old job teaching in Europe because "American students are more lazy and incapable of getting as high of grades." Then he showed intro YouTube videos from his personal laptop hooked to a projector and all of the "Recommend" videos all had titles like "grinding with thong", "sexy college babe grinding", etc. I thought he was just eccentric, but the guy was easily the worst teacher I ever had. He would expect you to totally memorize all the chapter-- he would quiz on material that didn't matter for concepts. (Ie: What was the name of Caesar's second cousin?) When the information would be found in a huge family tree. The only students in the class with A's were women, and he would grade their quizzes differently and be MUCH more lenient. (The students compared quiz results.) Someone in class called him out and he said that he was tired of teaching Americans and doesn't get paid enough. (Literally)

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    Ashley Galyen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Minus all the weird stuff and complaining about American students, my class was the same. He purposely scheduled classes to be once a week for 3 hours. You could never miss a class or you'd essentially fail. He talked a mile a minute about material not in the book for 3 hours. Then the beginning of each class was a 10 question quiz that could be on anything he mentioned or the book material that you had to read in your spare time. Learning the book material took longer because he never talked about it. Quizzes were half your grade plus a final. My grandmother had died so I was forced to take the final early before he finished his last lecture because he said he wouldn't schedule late finals.

    Hobby Hopper
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of a friend of a friend, who I don't like very much. He complains about his students, but I get a strong feeling he's the problem and really shouldn't be teaching.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably had tenure from the old days. We don't get that anymore.

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    #20

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Gives a test on the first day that WILL be counted against you. Had one of my mathematics teachers do this.

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    Judes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The idea here is to stop students who don't have sufficient knowledge continuing with the course. If students do badly in this assessment they have plenty of time to withdraw from this course without penalty and find a more suitable course. It's much better than having the first assessment halfway through the course, which basically gives students no chance to withdraw. OK, it's unfair if students aren't aware of an impending assessment, but other than that, I have no problem with this.

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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the system works. I once enrolled in what I thought was (my university’s equivalent of) Geology 101. We called it Rocks for Jocks because of how easy it was. Well, on the first day we were given a “simple” test about rock formations that seemed wildly out of my depth. When I spoke to the professor, he kindly informed me that I was in a fourth year course and that it wasn’t surprising that I found the test difficult. I quickly withdrew and saved myself $800!

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    Funhog
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the other hand, tests don’t necessarily count against you; they can be counted for you.

    #21

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately When they really put down good students for small mistakes

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    RMA
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ‘I know you are capable of much more, so I have much higher expectations of you.’ Guess what? Talented students can be easily demoralised as well.

    - JM1951
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    But who decides what makes a "good student"? However, failing to recognise learning from mistakes is an essential component of duty is sad omission in the teaching & learning contract.

    - JM1951
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    **duty = development (God knows what my spell-checker was thinking!!)

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    #22

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately The required textbook is a saran-wrapped package of loose-leaf papers that cost $100, authored by the professor.

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    Emily M
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They dont even have the decency to put them in a 3 ring binder for you!

    Daniel Yamada
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was in college, the textbook for one of my courses had been written by the professor. The professor used one of the college photocopiers to copy the pages (the photocopier also had the feature option of punching the three holes in each page). The professor gave copies to each student. We just needed to provide our own binder.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More of us are returning to this to beat the cost of those Pearson-published textbooks that they revise every year so you can't resell them.

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    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had only one 'text book' that came like that, but it was really just a hard copy of the relevant reading that we otherwise would have found online, so we could annotate as he talked. As in, not authored by him, just collated, I thought was a good idea.

    Kimberly Herbert
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was considered an ethics violation and not allowed at my university. If a professor wanted to use something they wrote they had to provide it free to students. One professor used an article that his wife (she was a professor at a neighboring university in the same field) wrote. Multiple copies were available i the library

    Wondering Alice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I use to write my own 'text book' in reality it was because I found most text books for my course were stupidity expensive and had loads of irrelevant bits - students would need to buy at least 3 over priced books but use very little from each. So I made my own, so much easier for everyone. Students had 3 options. They could buy it from the school (at cost, but the printers were not cheap) or deal with the electronic version themselves which was freely given. The third and most popular option was to group together for the bulk discount at a printers who would also bind it.

    #23

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately When the first thing they say before reading the 2 page, 1.0 spaced syllabus is; "I've been teaching for x years so I deserve your respect" or something like that. That's basically a 100% accurate indicator that this person *cannot* be wrong and they will talk to you like you're a piece of s**t. They can't *earn* anybody's respect so they have to ransom it.

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    - JM1951
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one deserves respect. It's so easily earned by simply doing a job well.

    Wondering Alice
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure I agree (not down voting, just disagreeing). If you walk in to a class room and have a bunch of kids who are raised to believe the teacher must earn their respect it is really hard to get quality teaching in from the start. If you walk in to a room of kids raised to be respectful to everyone until something happens to counter that - you can create a fantastic learning environment on day one. Kids should start out being respectful, if the teacher does something to lose that respect it is usually gone for good. Children do not have to treat an adult with respect if the adult does not respect them. I would not dream of making kids in my class have to earn my respect.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will insist that you respect my classroom. This is not a free-for-all, you are not the only student. So I have certain rules and if you don't respect the rules of my class, then, to use that old South Park meme, you're gonna have a bad time. Also, we go over the syllabus in class in case anything is unclear or you have questions, because we know you won't read it otherwise. "Read the syllabus" is my first rule, in fact.

    Rhyme Like A Lime
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those are completely acceptable rules though. You talked through the information and let students know where it would be located. This post is talking about the professors who don't help their students and demand respect without giving it.

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    #24

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately I took an economics course and bombed the first test. I went to the professor and told her “I really want to do well in your class, what are some suggestions you might have on how I can be successful?” She looked at the grade on the test and said “you should drop the class and change your major.” I may be s**t at economics but I can follow instructions.

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    Tams21
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In fairness, I think context is missing here. If the lecturer considered it a relatively easy test to see if students have understood fundamental principles and OP got an incredibly poor result then she may well have had their best interest in mind.

    JP Purves
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or the Econ prof was just a bad teacher and possibly a b***h, not unheard of in academia.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I advise a student to drop, it's usually because, with the time left, they can't pass the class. It's better to have a drop than an I or an F. It's not a personal slight... unless you're failing because you skipped too many classes and assignments from the beginning. I hate the way this prof handled it, because the best thing a student can ask themselves and their instructors is "How can I do well in this class?"

    - JM1951
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Surely that was simply honestly given good advice?

    #25

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately I'll make the class too hard and curve the class average to a C, because C is average.

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    Huddo's sister
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We didn't even have those sort of grades at uni, everything was Fail, Pass, Credit, Distinction, High distinction. The well known phrase is Ps get degrees, because all you have to do to complete your course is get a pass. A pass means you meet the necessary points of the assessment rubric. No shame in getting a pass, but they do want you to aim for more than the bare minimum. Until my most recent job, no one looked at my transcript anyway.

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    #26

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "Too many people got A's last semester, so I'm changing my syllabus for you all"

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    Britches are for everyone
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course this is an awful thing to say and a terrible orientation, but as a former professor, I can tell you that there is pressure from the top to keep your average class grade down. Administration wants the grade average to be lower so that they can brag about the academic rigor of the school.

    Allison B
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously?! That seems really dumb to me. You'd think they'd be happy with a higher grade average since it means students are learning? I mean they could also brag about having good professors who know how to teach if they must brag.

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    Wondering Alice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just worded badly. It is OK to say that because so many people are getting A's, I have realized that I can up the bar and teach more.

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    #27

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "Get out the science textbooks and work on chapter 5, activity 1". *Proceeds to sit down at their desk to do random s**t on their computer*

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    Lene
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Teachers did this in elementary school all the time! Lol. I was ok with it because they usually spent that time grading papers for other classes or something like that. It's not optimal but I'm sure it saved the teachers' sanity and we, the pupils, learned to work on a task without needing to have clear instructions first.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The teacher talked the WHOLE TIME!" Honestly, no matter what we do, someone's going to call it "toxic."

    mrsmir
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who called what “toxic”? I’m confused.

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    #28

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "This class will be using a textbook that I am writing and editing during the semester" Translation : it's going to be amateur hour. In addition to trying to learn new stuff, you are paying the school for the privilege of proofreading your professor's book.

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    jessica r
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    Or: we value input and feedback from real students

    Wood Carver
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a bare minimum to finish the course book before starting the course.... write a new one for next semester. Get my feed back great. But you can't just not do it and say you'll get chapter 2 next week

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    #29

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately Reviews on RateMyProfessor. There are a few times that the student was just mad that they got a low grade..but more often then not, they are spot on

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    *more often thAn not

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    #30

    A prof who is clearly off his meds. Over the course of my one month in the class, he was constantly rude and unbelievably condescending to literally everyone. Example: We were on a section talking about multiple sclerosis and how its signals misfire from the brain. A student said "my cousin has MS and sais this is how he was told what was happening. Is that correct?". Prof gets red in the face and yells "I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR COUSIN WITH MS!" and proceeds to rant about how interrupting him with stupid questions is a waste of his time. He never answered the question. During the second week, less that half the class showed up (or a noticeable chunk). He yelled at us that DID show up about how disrespectful it was, then said we would have to learn this section on our own and that we would be heavily tested on it, then stormed out of class. There was no participation mark in the class. Also, he stated at the beginning of the semester that more that 50% of students dropped his course. Our grades consisted of a 40% midterm and a 60% final. I took the midterm before dropping the class. It was the hardest test i have ever taken in my life. He expected us to answer questions that we hadnt been taught. When confronted, he said "you should always be applying the course material to future study". Class average on that was 15%. Highest mark was 68%. Next highest was 32%. He doesnt scale. Want to complain? Talk to the head of the department. SURPRISE! He *is* head of the department. HotD can only be held for 2 year. He managed to hold it for 4 due to a loophole or something (no department head wanted to upset him probably). Yes, he had been required by the university to take meds to keep his job. I dont think he ever actually took them. TL;DR: If a prof seems like a looney nut job, they probably are so GTFO of that class. Too much stress for minimal reward.

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    Laura Ketteridge
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Head of Department has as boss too, and complaints can be escalated.

    Funhog
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True.. and that boss may need just one more complaint in order to take action.

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    Banjocricket
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The guy sounds like a terrible teacher but there's no way you could know that he was required to take medication. I live with mental illness and I like to think that people aren't using words like "loony" to describe me. Obviously you can use whatever words you like, I'm just offering you an opportunity to be kind.

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    #31

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately When the teacher doesn't even explain anything, he just goes on youtube and shows the class a video and everyone is left without a clue of what is going on. I dropped computer science because of this, and I'm glad that I did. Also, when the teacher hardly ever explains anything and insists in "independent research" , more like "I can't be asked preparing lessons so just go ahead and do it yourself".

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    Pantea
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so grateful that I ended my studies before the invention of Youtube and social media.

    MarieTDr
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As did I. I do wish that we had Google then, though.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Independent research" is ... so you learn research skills yourself. Come on, this isn't toxic, this is you learning. We prepared those lessons for you, too.

    #32

    A red flag that the teacher has a really bad ego problem is if they require you buy their books. Especially if they ONLY recommend books they've written. Yes, you are the ONLY person who has ever written about James Baldwin. No one else has anything remotely worth adding to the conversation. Also, using your students as a means of increasing your sell numbers/making more money is a shitty, egotistical thing to do.

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    Ale
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From experience, this is true.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, students miss the points of this. 1) This was often a viable source of income, and the school required profs to publish classroom textbooks. 2) This was before the sweeping textbook publishing industry's takeover in the 90s. 3) Textbooks are constructed specifically for a class. So instead of buying those six books about Baldwin, or having to go get forty different essays from the library, the class textbook has it all right there. 4) Unlike the McGraw-Hill and Pearson stuff, you could usually resell/buy used the prof's textbooks, because they weren't constantly revising and republishing them for hundreds of dollars.

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    #33

    The opposite: Purchasing the book for this class will not be necessary, save your money. I have a PDF copy if anyone needs it, but we will follow along together, and I have printouts of all the questions. When a teacher does that I'm like "Okay, they obviously care about making this a good experience and not wasting my time or money."

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    The Scout
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a professor once who even regularly asked other authors for pdfs or scripts to have the course work with it. The best part of that was not even about the money we did not have to spend on textbooks, , but we got sources that more often than not were more current than the published versions, along with annotations from the author, sometimes even pre-print.

    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is becoming regular practice, especially because a lot of your profs now were also at the mercy of this textbook publishing industry racket ourselves. I've gotten quite a few advanced materials, and we have a few shared repositories for textbooks and critical texts. Don't be afraid to ask your prof if they have suggestions if you're having trouble affording the materials. We've been known to order for our students and use our discounts when we can get away with it, even.

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    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From experience, I'd say 75% of the time a professor says a book purchase is optional, it'll be required to do well in the class. (Source: Working in college registration)

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    #34

    If they treat the class like a highschool class. Had a professor proclaim NO CELL phones or she would take them away. Attendance was mandatory and if you are not going to be in class without telling her she will assume your lazy and fail you. For some reason she hated me on day 1 which was weird. I was motivated to get a good grade to bump my overall GPA up (I just needed a D- for degree requirement). Sat up front, took detailed notes, left cell phone face down like the prof requested. However no matter what I could never get above 70% on ANYTHING. About 1/2 way through the class I noticed the bias bc my friend just copied all my s**t and always got 15% higher. I went to her office hours and pointed this out. She flat out looked at me and said "Youre a lazy pos I can see it, I dont want to see you pass. You have an attitude in my class. However, you showed up here so Ill keep a better eye on you and see if Im wrong." My grades slowly started going up after that, still never reaching my friends. Than I made the biggest mistake. I decided to tell her I would miss the next class to pick up my bro from the airport who I havent seen in 7years. She threw a fit, yelling at me in front of the class on how I was a nobody and wouldn't amount to s**t and no matter what I would never get a good grade with my attitude. I later learned she always picked someone at random in everyone of her classes and makes their s**t miserable only to give them C- so they would need to retake the class if it was required to get better than a C. TLDR: If a professor treats the class like high school they are on a power trip and theres no telling what they will f*****g do.

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    #35

    When the History teacher makes the German exchange student cry for simply being German

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    - JM1951
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    Circumstance and context needed here. Many Germans are deeply upset and shamed by their history. I'm not German, but descriptions of the Holocaust are deeply upsetting to me, also.

    CrunChewy McSandybutt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a teacher in high school that was a WWII vet and he HATED Germans because of what he saw there. Anyone with a German last name was treated terribly, even though WWII was long before our time.

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    #36

    "70% of students will fail this class." GTFO

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    #37

    “If you arrive late then you’re absent”

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. Be in the seat when the class starts, because I can't f*****g teach and the others can't f*****g learn when I have a 20-30 minute stream of late arrivals with their Starbucks cups and McDonald's bags. There is a legit grace period, but if you are the person who ALWAYS shows up 20 minutes late? Mine isn't the class for you.

    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree. Huge difference between the 3 minutes late because parking was horrific and the 20 minutes late 'cause they can't be bothered...

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    #38

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately “I haven’t quite finalized the coursework and grading so I’ll be adjusting them as we go along.” Surprise assignments, surprise tests, way too many group projects. I should have known.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens when we get assigned a class at the last minute. One of my colleagues just had a weekend to pull together an entire syllabus. A WEEKEND. It usually takes an average of 40+ hours to build a complete course and syllabus. All unpaid, btw.

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    #39

    If all your professor does is read from the textbook. Then drop that class! If you can. Sometimes you need it for your major, or a time conflict, but if you can. Drop it. You know how to read.

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    Ashley Galyen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is potentially an easy A. People purposely find professors who teach like this.

    #40

    “You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t understand your American sentiments, *as an international,* I’m unfamiliar with your culture.” Stated by a woman who lived in America till the age of twelve. She thought she was the most intelligent person because she’d been able to live abroad. Worst professor I’ve had.

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    #41

    I once got out my laptop and dropped a class during the first lecture when our ~~professor~~ grad student told us that instead of an exam, the final would be "a group (no thanks) video project (hell no) about contemporary social issues (later, tater)."

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    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "For this two credit course, you'll be identifying a functional problem, inventing a solution, building said solution, presenting it to the public, and filming a commercial for it." No, I'll be finding another course to fill this GenEd, thank you.

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    #42

    "You should take this teacher, if you just show up for the final he will give you a passing grade." Fresh out of HS me thought that this sounded great. First day of class, 45 chairs in the class are all full and there are people lining the wall to get in. Fast forward to the final, me and maybe 10 other people attend. I pass the class, even though the teacher was awful. This was precalculus. I show up to Calculus the next semester. First class, "We'll review the stuff you'll need to know from your pre-cal class to succeed in this class. Here's a practice worksheet." I couldn't do a single problem, I had not learned a thing from my precal class and knew that I would have to retake it. In the long haul it pushed me from my science major to a liberal arts major. Would not recommend.

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    Victor Trejo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You got what you were told. A passing grade without making an effort to learn.

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    #43

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "This is my first time teaching, so you'll be my guinea pigs" her test averages were low 50s with no scaling, it was great.

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    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why team-taught courses exist... smh

    #44

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately I've had teachers that I just simply couldn't understand due to a language barrier and in hindsight I should have dropped immediately. I learned that basically if you can't understand what the teacher is saying, be prepared to teach yourself a lot of the class. I had an accounting teacher one time who was Chinese and I remember sitting in that class on the first day scratching my head because I had no idea what she was saying. I looked around and a lot of the other people had the same look on their faces. The next week I showed up to class and what was once a classroom of about 40 people was now about 12. I should have known right there to drop, but I didn't. I stuck it out and a few weeks go by and it didn't get any better. I got my first test back and completely bombed it. I told myself right then that I was going to have to teach myself the material and that coming to class was pointless. So I taught myself accounting by using the textbook. Since I didn't go to class I missed all of her pop-quizzes but just told myself I'll make it up on the tests. I only showed up for tests and the final and lo and behold, I passed the class.

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    Mrs. Jan Glass
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, because when you can't understand someone due to language issues, just assume nothing can be done. "Hey, Dr. Whoever/Prof So-and-So, there are some ESL issues, and a lot of us are having problems understanding the lecture. Can we have a shared document with the notes in writing?" "Hey, Dean of Econ, Prof Whoever is hard to understand due to some language issues. What are some ways we can make the lectures more accessible?" FFS, JUST ASK SOMEONE. We have six thousand things going on and can't read your minds. You could have ended up with a freaking club where Dr. Whoever teaches you multinational theory and basic Chinese econ terms, making you even more marketable.

    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Easier said than done. Had an early childhood professor where there was a thick accent/understandability barrier, but the professor didn't think there was a problem. Enough students pass her classes, so higher ups see no problem. Failed the class, re-took it with a different professor, A-. Anecdotal, but point is, those kind of changes take time and the willingness of people to institute them.

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    Pantea
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a teacher at school who spoke with a thick SW-German accent. Back then I had to concentrate to understand standard German. One day she was babbling about dialects, saying "it's the language of the hearts". I put my hand up and said: "That may be, but you are a teacher and obliged to teach us in a language ALL of us understand, regardless where we come from. You can speak your language of hearts in private, but in the classroom it's not helpful". She said she would want me to understand the dialect as well, but I argued that she was teaching social studies, not languages, and that she was missing the point of her class. She then changed the subject, but from then on I started interrupting her every time I didn't understand a word she said, asking what she meant and making her repeating it in standard German. After few weeks, she gave up on her language of hearts during her class.

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    #45

    *Class of 80 averages a 40 percent on a test* Prof: That's what they get for not learning the material!

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    Sally Kerr
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends whether the grade boundaries reflect the difficulty and scores. Medical exams often have around 40% pass rate maximum, and they will move the boundary to keep that level regardless of actual scores

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    #46

    "We'll be doing 3 group projects this semester. I will assign the group and it will be the same group for all 3 projects." NOPE.

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    Penny Hernandez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a non-traditional student, taking a Science Fiction Lit class. We were assigned a group project and I realized none of the others (traditional students) in my group had read any of the material and they knew I had (I'm a long-time lover of SF), so they expected me to do all the work. Twist - the professor was a old personal friend and he knew I'd read it and they hadn't. He failed the rest of my group after asking them in class about the material.

    #47

    From one I just dropped: -no exams, at all - a ten page paper was worth 50% of the mark and the other 50% was from giving a presentation to the class -there were two extremely expensive textbooks, which she told us at length about how hard they were to find and that the bookstore didn't have any (she said she called the publisher and even they didn't have any copies) -the textbooks were required starting next week and the discussions would be based off of the textbook readings (the fastest shipping would still take at LEAST two weeks to get the books there!!) -she was very condescending and rude -said that if we didn't have prior background into <subject> it would be an extremely steep learning curve (but there wasn't a prereq for the class in <subject>)

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    Kat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The part about the grading systems doesn't seem that bad to me. Books on the other hand ...

    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the part about background/prereq needs a bit of clarifying. An oversimplification, but I better know my Monet from my Manet if I'm going into museum science, even if I didn't take a specific Art History course.

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    #48

    Definitely one of the biggest things you need to consider is that even if there is a large workload, depending on the subject it may help. You have to remember that the professor has to also grade this stuff so assuming there’s no TA doing all of the grading, it is extra work for him. It’s not what you want to hear, but take for example my Physical Chemistry professor. He assigned 1-2 homework assignments per week, and they took anywhere from 3-6 hours on average to finish. It sucked a*s, but instead of guessing on exams, I fully understood the material. This professor was ALWAYS answering emails as well, within an hour at almost any time of the day. If they have shitty response times, they probably won’t be that helpful and I’d recommend dropping. The most helpful professors I’ve had were the ones that answered emails ASAP

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    Nathan
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was a good professor.

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    #49

    There’s a HUGE waitlist of students for a different section with a different professor. Oh and she doesn’t speak your native language well enough to communicate the class material. Yes you will go to class, study for tests, and do all of the bonus projects, but rest assured you’ll get the first C of your college career in a damn general education requirement because of her.

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    Fenchurch
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems to be a lot of casual racism in this list

    Rhyme Like A Lime
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First up, if you're teaching a class, people have to be able to understand you. If your accent is so thick that nobody can understand you, that's life, not racism. If someone were to say prejudiced things against a person, then yeah, that's being racist. But being clear is absolutely important.

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    #50

    I took a physics class when I was in college. Day one, I am paging through the syllabus (which was like 5 pages long by the way) and I see that there's a 5 page paper due later that week. I asked the professor if that was a mistake. He said it was not. I dropped the class that afternoon. Edit: This post is getting a lot of attention so I will address what seems to be a common theme in replies I am getting. I agree that a five page paper is not a large amount of work. The red flag was more about the fact that there was a term paper assigned for a hard science like physics. I did not need the class to graduate, I only took it because I was interested in it. So I decided it was probably not the right fit for me.

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    #51

    A group project worth a substantial amount of your grade. F**k group projects.

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    #52

    I had a biology class with a professor who wore a f***y pack and had stains on his shirt. On the first day, he said that the class would require at least 4 hours of studying every day. The professor also said that he didn't mind "crushing our dreams" and giving us an F. The class was full at the beginning and ended with 3 students.

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    Gabi Lawson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can everybody pls just comment f a n n y on this until they un-sensor it?!?

    Gabi Lawson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did you sensor f***y pack!!!

    #53

    You are required to use LockDown Browser for exams, have your webcam on, and must give a tour of the entire room with the camera and the volume on during normal working hours. Nah, no one invades my privacy. My normal working hours are 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. There's not much I can do about taking an exam before 5 p.m.

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    Judes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't your professor's fault since they are most likely rules set by the university. And you can blame your fellow students who can't be trusted not to cheat.

    Griffin McKinley
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bro what? Why would he only be complaining about that specific teacher firstly, and secondly f**k that

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    UselessKnowledgeFont
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The use of these proctor programs and their invasion of privacy by Cleveland State University was just ruled illegal in court. At least there's a precedent against them now.

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    #54

    Day 1 of grad school for electrical engineering (multivariable Laplace transforms) -- everyone takes their seats and professor smiles and says in a thick Russian accent, "*dis forst cless I tich, OK*?"

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    Dmitri Johnson
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is nt toxic it is just the first class they are teaching

    Pumpkin Spice
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First-time teaching is always nerve-wracking, but the only problem I see here is students not being able to understand the accent/the teacher being a dips**t (which does not seem likely).

    Andrew Wildman
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This doesn't sound like a naive teacher like some of the other ones. It could be that the professor hasn't taught before because they've been an actual electrical engineer for however long.

    #55

    If they do ice-breakers not just on the first day, but the second day as well. It means they have no idea what they're doing.

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    Fenchurch
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worst words to hear "were going to go round the room and you can stand up and tell us a little bit about yourself"

    #56

    "I've never taught this before so I'll be learning along with you." Edit: She ended up getting double teamed by two seniors and let go.

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    #57

    "You have to buy this online book to have access to the online homework" When I can get the pdf of the book by various means... Who the hell want to pay to do homework twice? Edit*: see i was going to reply to everyone, but then there a buttload of comments Pearson, Sapling, Hooks, Wiley, all of them are crooks in book. I've been fortunate to not have any of those classes since sophomore year but did I hate it when did Edit Jr**: obligatory "my highest updooted post" comment is to me fussing about how something costs too much. I approve. It's a real shame college administrations by and large promote this tomfoolery for a bird dog fee. I don't see it ending soon, not without some sort of textbook industry collapse and rebirth. For the short term, if you can galvanize your classmates to discuss better and affordable options, there could be success there. It sounds idealistic, but sometimes just asking makes a big difference, or maybe just a free cookie

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    Monique Reed
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last school I taught for dropped an expensive but great textbook to go with a free, open source option. I has TWO HUNDRED PAGES OF CORRECTIONS. But it save the students money so admin decided to keep it.

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    #58

    I had an accounting professor tell us that there was no way you could get an A in her class with a full time course load and a part time job. I remember being infuriated because I supported myself and had a full time job and a full time course load. I would have dropped it if it she wasn't the only prof that taught it. I got an A and felt super smug. But I still have nightmares about that class.

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    #59

    “You’re All Adults, Not Children, You Can Hold It”: 30 Times People Realized They Needed To Drop A Class Immediately "My name is Konstantin Makarov, I was nuclear physicist in Russia. This course will not be easy, not all will survive, but we can get through together." First words uttered by my Differential Equations professor.

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    Kat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't sound too bad. If you decide to drop out because he warns you it's not an easy course... Then he was right stating it up front

    Funhog
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read this with a positive spin. It seems that he is open to helping students if they seek help.

    G.
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read that in a James Bond villain voice and smirked.

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    #60

    The use of McGraw-Hill Connect if the class isn't absolutely necessary.

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    #61

    The instructor either seems to have trouble speaking in the language in which the class is being taught or their accent is so thick that it's difficult to understand them. While plenty of people are incredibly knowledgeable about their topic of interest without being great at multiple languages, the fact of the matter is that you're not going to learn much if you're going to have to devote so much of your attention into just figuring out what the instructor is saying.

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    #62

    You are required to log on to blackboard at least 3 days a week. — I didn't register for an online class because I've got ample hours in my day to log on and do school work I take online classes because I have the ability to successfully compete weeks worth of work in 1 day.

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    #63

    I had some issues with my schedule and wasn't registered for a particular course on the first day of class, so I registered and attended on the second day. He had already paired up the class into groups of 3-4 on day 1 for a project that would span the entire course and count for a large part of our grade. When I asked if I could be joined into a smaller group he told me no, that I could do the work solo for the semester. I was peeved, but needed that course as a prerequisite for something I needed next semester so I silently fumed. After week 2 I had "failed" two reports because he just didn't like what I wrote. Not that the reasoning, research, or writing was unsound- he just didn't like the subject so he gave me failing grades. I dropped the class, took it with another teacher the next semester, and graduated a semester late because of it. I don't regret it. He was a horrible teacher and I'm sure my mental health would have suffered if I had continued in his class.

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    #64

    If they segregate students I had an American history class where on the first day the teacher told everyone that no one was to sit in the furthest left row of seats. Those seats were reserved for the what she called idiots. Idiots were people who arrived late for class. My class before this ended five minutes before this class did and was on the other side of campus. I took the safe route and dropped the class. This was before the school made it a rule that you had to have ten minutes between classes, and the professor was an adjunct professor. On an unrelated note I had an English teacher at this same school that thought when someone had a number on the back window of their car, a number the dmv makes you put there due to some issue with your registration, it meant they were bad drivers and essentially on notice. She thought this because she said she had only ever seen Asian drivers with them. The girl who explained what it actually meant knew because she had had one, and was also Asian. That last teacher I know for a fact no longer works as a teacher.

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    #65

    "I'm not grading any assignments this term, your grade rests entirely on the final exam"

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    #66

    "Over half this class is retaking this class" More a reflection on the professor than the students.

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    #67

    Professor was semi-retired. One of his conditions for coming out of full retirement was all his courses had to be done by 9AM so he could still enjoy his day. No one passed his 7AM advanced calculus classes....

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    #68

    Let me tell ya'll a story from second year university. I had a course that started in second semester, and due to weather the first class had to be cancelled. Okay, that's unfortunate, but obviously not the teacher's fault. She sends out a class wide email saying "here are the slides I would have shown today, can you all please read through them in preparation for tomorrow?" Okay, seems reasonable enough, I can understand that. But then I'm reading through those slides I found this, which I'm going to quote to the best of my memory: "If the class misbehaves the homework assignments will get longer and more difficult, and the final exam will get more difficult." Excuse me? I have literally never met you and you're already threatening me? What the f**k? So yeah, to answer your question: that.

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    #69

    Was a freshman in college, needed to get some science credits with a lab... took geology because I wanted to try something besides bio, that I just took in high school. The teacher gave a speech the first day of class about how it gets under her skin that people take Geology because they're required to take a lab and just "assume" that it'll be an "easy A." So, she said "this class will NOT be an easy A!" And then proceeded to make it hard as f**k. Like make it challenging so people will be engaged, but make it nigh impossible to pass just to prove a point.

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    #70

    Doesn’t speak clear English and doesn’t hold office hours. (This is for a University in USA) PS: Holding office hours but never being there doesn’t help anyone. By appointment only... but having zero availability also doesn’t help anyone.

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    Kathleen ONeill
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adjunct faculty often do not have an office. Adjunct faculty, which make up about 70% of US university faculty are also paid next to nothing per class taught.

    #71

    Had a professor in an online class who answered all of my questions by telling me to Google certain phrases.

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    Q B F T
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tbf, most useful skill in the working world

    #72

    In an English class for the 12th grade, I was handed back an essay and with it a mark of 64% (hard teacher but I'm not the best at English) with this mark was a comment that read "Excellent Work!". That's when I knew, this b***h was Lucifer.

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    Kat
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How was the work compared to your previous stuff? Might not be the best grade, but if you significantly improved (you mentioned yourself that you are not so good at the subject), then yes, you did excellent

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    #73

    The workload they give you due for next class when it’s your first class.

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    #74

    They hand out the syllabus and you see that the first 4 chapters are covered in week 1 with an exam scheduled for week 2. And then, upon further examination, you realize that this is a recurring theme for the next 15 weeks...NOPE!

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    Penny Hernandez
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which would be okay, IF that was the only class you were taking that semester.

    #75

    I completed my MS part time while working full time. As a practicing engineer, I wanted to focus on courses that had practical, real world application potential. For my very first MS course, I enrolled in Elastic Stability. First day of class in my first semester of grad school, the professor open up with the following: "This is an entirely theoretical class; we won't be using experimentation to determine our answers, but will determine everything through mathematical manipulation. Basically we are going to derive, derive, derive." I dropped that class the minute I got home.

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    Judes
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So? Doesn't mean it's a bad course or a bad teacher. It probably means the student didn't read the course outline before enrolling.

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    #76

    Ended up being "don't take this class in the first place", but we had the AP English teacher come into our Honors English class to talk to us about what to expect if we signed up for AP English next year... and he basically told us he doesn't give a c**p if our parents would beat us over not getting an A or if we would go kill ourselves or something. I'd always been pretty much a straight-A student with the exception of gym class and I'd never gone to a teacher and asked them to change my grade in my life, so it's not like I anticipated needing a "compassionate grade boost" or anything, but I did not sign up for that class and took Scholarship English that year instead. It was way too easy for me and all of my friends were in the AP class, but high school is dehumanizing enough without having a teacher who feels the need to explicitly state he doesn't care whether you live or die, f**k that.

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    #77

    "I don't believe in curves."

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    Chancey
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Must have been a flat earth course!

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