50 Times Child-Free People Had Something Sassy To Say, And Posted It In This Online Group
More and more people these days are becoming childfree by choice, in turn celebrating time, freedom, and opportunities they have reserved for themselves. Meanwhile, economists have pointed to the fact that the fertility rate has fallen every year since 2007, as the Great Recession made millennials put off child-rearing for years.
But in order to get a glimpse of what childfree life is really like, you have to look at what people who opt out of having babies have to say about it. So we looked at the corner of Reddit “Childfree,” which is a place for discussion of the childfree lifestyle.
With a whopping 1.4M members, it surely has a lot to say on this matter, so let’s see some arguments on living with no kids right below. Also, after you’re done, be sure to check out part 1 of the post right here.
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What Could Be More Important Than Creating Life?
I would happily donate my womb and breasts for the other girl or trans who needs them or want to have a child. I'm not gonna use them.
A woman can have a complete and meaningful life without becoming a mother. Motherhood is splendid, but, if you don’t miss it - other splendid adventures are to be had.
Load More Replies...You can have my womb, my ovaries. If I ain’t gonna use em, I don’t really wanna have to keep dealing with useless periods until I’m 50. Kind of a waste imo
I feel you! I had terrible pain, then i had a contraceptive implant and it changed my life. I tolerate it well and i'm period free for almost 20years. I know some people don't tolerate it well but when it works with your body it's so good. I just have to change it every 3 years, without pain.
Load More Replies..."Look at your bodies, men! D***s. God created you for the magnificent job of dicking around! What can be more important than this?!?!" At least men don't dissapoint :)
I don't have a uterus anymore - it had to be evicted because it was faulty. I'm not less of a women though...jerk hahaha.
And vice versa. I have 3 kids and two degrees and a company that went international. I don't get it why it's always either or. I love my work and I also absolutely love being a mom.
Awesome. I don't get it as well. Either or. I read a lot about period sucks, my ovaries suck... What the hell is there anything to complain about. The ability to speak makes people not automatically intelligent. The sentences about I want to donate my reproductional parts are just stupid.
Load More Replies...God did create the female body for that, but still, not every woman is meant to have children/a family. If you don't want kids you don't have to have kids, it's perfectly fine ._.
wow, so everyone who has had a kid is a stupid and a servant to a man?
I can't believe I read that from a woman. I almost lost hope. My wife and me do things for each other out of love and care. And not because of being a servant. Well.. This requires attention and deep feelings. The ones who write they are servants then have none of it.
Load More Replies...Since when are women servants for men. My wife isn't my servant. I am not hers. But we do things for each other. This is called caring and I happens out of love. Mrs. PH. D.
Look at your brain, man. No, not the lower one. The other which rarely gets blood to function.
According to the initial comment I highly doubt you have a functioning brain at all
Load More Replies...Family Is What You Make
I'm 51 now - never had kids, never wanted them. People always say "you look so young!". My answer: "No husband, no kids". It's great for wrinkle prevention.
I once got asked if I “have a family”. I genuinely thought she was asking if I was orphaned or estranged from my family or something. She was perfectly nice, but “having a family” doesn’t just mean having kids to me!
Right? It's like my parents & siblings didn't stop being my family just because I got married.
Load More Replies...I can't love this enough as a child free person with a long term significant together. We are a family too.
I just wanna say I almost didnt have a kid but it ended up being so happy and nice we now have 4. It's ok to not want children but acting like having children is the worst is just not true :)
Often people like kids but they don't want to be parents so they don't have them. Same reason people decide against getting a pet - totally rationally.
I Love Steve Hofstetter. Walter Is His Dog
This has nothing to do with having kids or not, everything with education. I always remind my children to be careful in the presence of any kind of animals, never scare them, be respectful.
yea my mom and dad taught me that too, and when I was around 8 I hadn't listened and learned the hard way. Now I'm the only one in my family the cat, dog and chicken enjoy coming around because I respect them the most. Oh have the turn tables.
Load More Replies...I believe that we should have the legal right to whack out-of-control brats upside the head, no matter who their parents.
So, you don’t a have a problem with a complete stranger hitting your kid(s)? Hypothetically if you’re childless.
Load More Replies...Absolutely LOVE this!! I will have to use it next time some wild kid (or their Mom for that matter) runs over to pet my SERVICE Dog!
To find out what people who choose not to have kids have to say about the childfree lifestyle, Bored Panda reached out to Amy Blackstone, professor of sociology at the University of Maine and the author of “Childlfree by Choice: The Movement Redefining Family & Creating a New Age of Independence.”
When asked if such a lifestyle is getting more popular nowadays, which it certainly feels like it, Amy said that it’s certainly more popular “in the sense that more people are aware of it as an option than ever before.”
According to the professor and book author, “That is largely thanks to the willingness of childfree people to speak out about their choice and of course to the decades-long work of reproductive justice advocates. Whether more people than in the past will ultimately remain childfree for their lifetimes remains to be seen.”
Been Waiting 20 Years For A Comeback Like This
I am so glad that my mum decided that she wanted a life more than she wanted grandchildren. She really just wanted to buy the cute furniture that wasn't around when we were young. None of her children are going to have offspring.
I Can’t Believe This Is Still Even A Thing
People ask me how many children I have, and when I say "None", they look at me in a funny manner. "Oh, you can't have any?" I reply: "No, I don't want any."
When I said I didn't want kids I would often get the reply "That's terrible." No, what would be terrible would be for me to have a child knowing that I would definitely not be a good mom. "It's different when it's your own child". Oh? Well what if it's not.Then what do I do. My wonderful nephew is more than enough for me to love and be incredibly proud of the man he has grown into. Other than delivery room staff and his mom and dad, I was the first one to hold him and that was one of the best moments of my life.
Load More Replies...When someone asks "When are you getting pregnant?" Reply back loudly "OMG! Are you asking me when I'm going to have sex!!! How is that any of your business?!?" I guarantee they will back pedal and stop asking.
I’ve told my mom that I don’t want to have biological children but that I plan to adopt and she has nothing against adoption but when saying I don’t want biological children she’s like “well you’ll probably change your mind one day when you find the right person”. I know I’m only a teenager and there’s a chance she could be right, but as of now, thinking about my future I just don’t see myself wanting to get pregnant. I’d love to raise a child and so therefore: adoption. It’s the fact that “I don’t want to have kids” is never just met with an “okay, that’s your choice”
I knew since I was 12 that I didn't like or want kids. I got told the same - now I am 38 and still happily child free :).
Load More Replies...1. I don't want them. 2. PCOS 3. I have selfish tendencies. As does my husband. 4. We like to travel on a whim. 5. We like our money.
To each their own! So nature helps the children of abuse and drug addicted parents in what way? Children that are raped in polygamous cults at a young age and FORCED to have babies at 14 and 15 years old are helped how? Honey, I won't argue with you because I am an ADULT but not all people need or want children.
Load More Replies...I mourned when I went through menopause, because I wanted kids and couldn't have any. But I would never, NEVER guilt someone else with that! Having a child is something you should want to do, not be pressured into doing.
I hate crotch goblins. Don't want any and am perfectly complete without them
When I was young I used to think having a child is not optional and everyone who is medically able must have at least one child. This used to bother me because I never saw it fitting to my beliefs or ideals. Now I know it's an option and people can choose not to have kids despite having no medical issues. Sometimes people tell me you will want a child of your own when you are older. I don't think so because many people my age have children and if they can choose to have children I can choose not to have . One person said how are you going to know you want children or not if you don't have any? So I should have children to figure out I want children or not and if I still decide I don't then what should I do with the baby? I can't just throw it away or in an orphanage. Or I could just raise the child who can grow up and tell their therapist how they had a mother who was emotionally unavailable!
This 💯! I am 38 & don't have kids but I am helping raise my teen nieces. I got told by a coworker "mmm, but it isn't same as having your own". My nieces are my own & I never want to give birth in the 1st place. My body isn't anyone business.
I get the question all the time. I'm now 37, but don't look my age. I had a hysterotomy 4 years ago due to adenomyosis. But I also don't want kids. I am so sick of this question.
Pug Slide (Found On Facebook)
This is the absolute best thing I’ve read all weekend and today .
I also can't help but think that the pug probably appreciates the slide more than any child would.
Load More Replies...This was on another post i remember seeing on bored panda! SO cute. I love dogs. :) <3
Place the slide into a plastic kiddy pool. My dogs go bonkers and have a tantrum when I tell them it’s time to go inside.
This probably sounds horrible... but I would much rather spend an afternoon watching this pug go down the slide than a child!
“Certainly more millennials are currently childfree than were previous generations at their age, but there hasn't been a dramatic increase in lifetime childlessness,” she said and added that only “time will tell whether today's millennials are opting out of parenthood altogether or simply delaying it.”
There's a common misconception that parenthood defines us unlike anything else. Amy said that there are “good reasons that this misconception is so common. Almost from the moment we are born, we are taught that becoming a parent is one of the most important milestones of adulthood. For this reason, it makes sense that folks might think that parenthood is the be all, end all experience.”
Since They're Trying To Ban Abortion...
I guess according to the pious in the US, the foetus is an important member of society who needs to be protected and cherished. Until they are born. Beyond that point, they're on their own and on their way to contributing into the coffers of the top 1%.
I think the brilliant George Carlin said it best: "If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're f***ed!"
Load More Replies...A fetus is not a baby. Also at 6 weeks it isn’t even considered a fetus yet.
I think cowboy Hank probably chants "USA! USA!" Whenever an F14 bombs a Middle Eastern city...how many babies die there Hank?
Went to the store a few months before my 21st birthday for beer. They said I wasn’t old enough. I said if life begins at conception, then I’m definitely old enough. I didn’t get the beer. Apparently life begins before you’re born only if it’s about terminating a pregnancy.
The law currently defines one's chronological age as beginning at birth, and abortion is currently legal. The government decides both those things, not pro-life activists. Your comment is logically incoherent.
Load More Replies...For anyone who thinks that abortion is "murdering babies": A fetus is not a baby. A baby is breathing and independent. A fetus does not breath, and is completely dependent on the mother. Not to mention the fact that the pain from even a textbook childbirth is enough to kill you. It (hopefully) won't, but it's unbearable.
I agree with your message, but still, just because I'm not a woman does not mean that I can't have an opinion. I think what cowboy frank said is wrong, but still, I can have an opinion. Like, if I'm not black can I not stand for BLM? If I'm not gay can I not stand for LGBTQ+ rights? Again, I'm for all those things, and I really agree with your message, but still.
Load More Replies...Seriously, the same people who want you not to use birth control, abortion clinics, maternaty leave or paid family leave have no interest in actually supporting parents
... a point no pro-lifer can deny. No way around it - if you classify it as a person on whatever grounds (and if we overlook that that it's none of your businees, pro-lifer), everything that results from being a person has to be the outcome of it, or the point cannot be made at all. It already is a nonvalid point anyway, but it cannot be asked too much to act at least consistent. Also - murdering Babies, Hank, is rightfully illegal anywhere in the world. There is no need to stop something that doesn't even happen.
Why does everyone downvote a guy for sharing his opinion on life. ??
Child Fees Should Be A Thing And Dogs Should Be Free
Depends because I still fall under the category of a child but all I do is sit on a blanket watching tv
Sorry for the dog joke, but "Good boy, have a treat!"
Load More Replies...Totally acceptable for kids to scream and cry and throw stuff on buses and light rail, but you can't bring a well-behaved dog on board.
This isn't fair. Fees should either serve to reward behaviour that is genreally desired, or represent the cost of the choices people took. But, a cat likely doesn't cause any additional cost, wallpaper aside (that you have to replace most times anyway, or are required to remove anyway), ... so why is this even legal?
they have changed the laws on this in the UK https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-standard-tenancy-agreement-to-help-renters-with-well-behaved-pets
Agreed. My boyfriend rented to a family with a toddler. They moved out a couple months ago but the walls in numerous rooms were covered in crayon, permanent marker, other types of marker. Stickers stuck to numerous surfaces. Sticky stuff on the bedroom floor and wall that was the toddler’s room.
Kids, cats and dogs all need to be TRAINED. If you won’t put in the effort, don’t have one.
"Child Fees Should Be A Thing And Dogs Should Be Free" -> No, do not play tenants against each other. Rather go for rationale legislation. Besides, over here there are kind of "child fees" as you for example pay the variable part of rent based on number of people, as a child will mean more garbage for example.
For The Childfree Motorist
It's kinda ironic for me that in my experience, people with the "kids on board" stickers tend to drive like absolute muppets. I live near a school. These idiots stop suddenly and block traffic making passing a particular road really unpleasant.
Well they're underslept and turned backward trying to stop Jamie from whacking his sister too much. They're warnings not requests.
Load More Replies...This "children on board" sticker is to warn the rescue teams in case of accident, so they will wear proper devices and get a catch pole for the reluctant, aggressive children who may bite when frightened.
The child on board sign is useful in the case of a crash to warn first responders to check and look for small kids that aren't immediately visible.
That wasn’t the original purpose of the sign though, so yeah I want people to drive carefully around me too!
Load More Replies...I had to have someone explain this too, (non parent here) It's not for other drivers, so come the f down. It's for rescue workers.
Absolute nonsense. Do you even believe this yourself, that a rescue worker would look harder because of some faded 'baby on board' sticker, or decide not to look when it's absent?
Load More Replies...However, “we know from all kinds of social science research that having kids is not required for living a complete, happy, and fulfilling life,” the professor explained and recommended everyone looking for the answers to read her illuminating book “Childfree By Choice.”
Just A Nice Quote I Read And Felt Like Sharing
They lied to us... I'm a 30 something year old with no kids and it is not the dream they sold us
Im 37, and i got no kids, no spouse, no job, no money, no house. So, good thing i got no kid.
Load More Replies...I’m 35 and pregnant with my first and likely only child. It’s not cheap. I have to pay for the doctor portion of the delivery before I even have the baby and day care is nearly as much as rent. How people have multiple children astounds me
Depends how you do it. We've never spent anything on daycare because I look after the kids. We had one homebirth and one at a birth center, both with midwives; no doctors or hospitals involved. It wasn't super expensive; insurance covered a lot of it. Our kids are now 17 and 12 & have not cost us much at all. Tbh the biggest expense associated with them is probably buying so many books for them over the years. :)
Load More Replies...absolutely not true... when I was in my 20s, my back didn't hurt, my knees didn't hurt, I didn't have a sleeping disorder, I could drink whatever I wanted and my hangover lasted few hours at most and now I don't enjoy anymore or I am not even physically capable to do all the crazy s**t I enjoyed in 20s
Until all your 30-something friends decide to start popping out little ones, and there's no one left to party with. Damn. I need some new child free friends.
Letter From An 85 Year Widow: My Childfree Experience And A Few Humble Opinions
My great aunt never had children. From what I remember it was because her and her husband didn't want to. No shame in that.
Good for her. me and husband don't have any, never wanted them. I knew I didn't want any since the age of 14. babysitting took care of that!
Load More Replies...I agree with this, as a child free person I am always happy as my happiness is up to me and me only. Don't get me wrong, I do admire people who do a great job of raising children - I just don't see myself in that group. For me, it is more likely that having children would decrease my happiness.
I think this is why family pushes so much for their adult kids to have grandchildren. They know, eventually, they may lose contact with their own kids. Grandkids are no guarantee that you will have someone to spend time with you. It's up to you to make connections that will last.
Had my "tubes tied" when I was 27. I'm now 75. No kids, no regrets. (I love those scam calls that start out "Grandma, I'm in trouble. Can you send me $$$?")
My parents always try to control me, and society said that i should abide since they feed me. The only thing i came in mind if i finally can make my own money is to go far away from them, though i have to leave some friends and relatives behind in the process.
It also bugs me alot for parents thinking that their children are some sort of investment, so they try to shape the kids to their expectation instead nurturing them to become happy human beings. In the end some of those kids would abandon their parents since they felt like being treated like a prisoner, so once they can make their own money and live on their own they would never come back to that prison again.
I remember the flak about not wanting kids... remember a MALE anesthesiologist trying to talk me out of getting my tubes tied...kept saying 'I'd change my mind' - hadn't changed my mind since I was 8 .... didn't think it would happen at 29. Would have had it done at 18 but the military wouldn't do it either ''you might change your mind'' -- sorry dudes...not happening
I Swear
Agreed!!! Giving birth was pure hell along with breaking my tailbone during it. My tattoo was no big deal.
Load More Replies...Get tattoos instead of having kids, because you won't go to jail if you decide you want to remove them with lasers one day.
Load More Replies...Ooo I really want more piercings and some tattoos but when I think about it I’m like “I might not go through with that because I’m afraid of pain” and if by adulthood I’m still afraid of that level of pain, oh boy, I could never give birth
They only hurt while getting it. You only pay once for the pain. Not for the rest of your life.
Everybody makes their own decisions. My two kids are without a doubt my best friends. And they say the same about me. Daughter moved out bought a house with boyfriend, son left for Marines, has had several roomates, and finally said mom I just miss you, do you want to me room mates? And I was like of course! So he is 28 and we live together. My daughter has asked me several times, if I would be mad if she didn't have kids, and of course I would not be mad! I don't understand the whole grandkid obsession. As long as she dogs and cats, or even rats I am just find with that!
I am not a fan of tattoos, but I am not everyone.
It’s hard to say whether opting not to have kids will stay popular with future generations. According to Amy, “it depends on what we mean by 'popular' but if what you're referring to is whether the idea that having—or not having—children is a choice, I'd say that yes, our awareness of that reality will continue to grow.”
It’s just that more and more people are speaking out about their choice not to have kids. “And thanks to their bravery in speaking out, we now know that parenthood is simply one of many paths available to us,” she concluded.
Think I Pissed Off My Obgyn
It's ridiculous how women are denied agency over THEIR OWN DAMNED BODY and men can just do whatever they want. I mean, men can even walk away from their wife and child, not file for (joint) custody, and most people are like 'ah, divorce, too bad'. When a woman walks away from her husband and child and doesn't want custody, all hell breaks lose and she's painted like an evil villain.
This story I hear so so so often. A guy wants a snip? Sure! A girl wants a snip? What does your husband feel about that... are you sure.. you will change your mind.. bla bla bla
To be fair, reversing a vasectomy is typically easier than reversing a tubal ligation, thevprocedure is easier and less invasive, and women have a lot higher regret rates. That's not to say that women should be denied care or that requiring a husband's consent (which some places apparently do) is good or valid. There should always be a risk/benefit discussion, but from what I understand, that is usually not done in favor of absurdly sexist suggestion that should have no place in a doctor's office.
Load More Replies...I had a doctor do this to me. Refused to do a hysterectomy. I have endometriosis and an autistic child with the next child having a better chance of having even more severe form of ASD. If it's my choice, it's my choice! Stop trying to convince women that they should wait in case they change their mind. We are fully capable of making our own decisions and, if we make a mistake, it's our problem to deal with! Stop trying to coddle us!
I'm so glad my gyn understands. She asked me about wanting children ONCE I told her no and she was like: okay, cool. Never asked again, never suggested I would/could change my mind. I really like her.
Why would you keep going back to a doctor who doesn't respect your bodily autonomy?
Sometimes it's the only choice, if you need specialised care. :(
Load More Replies...When my husband went and got his vasectomy they asked to to speak to me. I was surprised and when I sat down with the doctor and nurses they asked me "Are you ok with this?" I looked them dead in the eyes and said "HIS body HIS choice" and just continued to stare at them.
There is a case that has had some publicity here in the UK about a woman who has dreadful endometriosis. She has begged to have a hysterectomy but her GYN keeps refusing because she doesn't have children. She has already said so many times she doesn't want kids. That will never change for her. However, the facts are even if she did want kids her endometriosis is so severe the chances of her carrying one is very slim. The point of this post is that the NHS and the GYN would prefer to leave her to suffer in horrendous agony with severe endometriosis rather than perform the hysterectomy on the extremely small small chance she could get pregnant.... even though it would be unwanted if she did although very unlikely due to her health. Isn't that f****d up s**t right there?
I Wish More People Realized Just How Much A Bad Parent Can Mess Up Their Children
This is something I have had so much difficulty explaining to my mom without making her feel guilty. I have bipolar disorder and an almost debilitating anxiety disorder. I also suffered from an eating disorder. These are things that can be traced back in our family tree on both sides. Not saying my environment didn't contribute, because it definitely did as my dad was abusive and my sibling learned that behavior before my mom could leave. My mom truly did her best and has had a hard life because of my dad and siblings. Looking at that and the genetic components of mental health, I opted out with a hard no at a young age. I'm 31 now and have never once wavered on that decision. I'm not fit to be a parent and frankly, I'm 100% good with that.
Family history of mental health issues, family history of physical health issues (obesity, diabetes and heart problems) and never really having a good parenting role model while growing up are some of the factors that probably contributed to me never really wanting to have kids of my own
I understand what you are saying. I feel exactly the same way. I have health issues going back to my great grandparents, and every generation of my family has suicides, depression, anger, violence, abandonment and other issues. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, so no, I will not have children.
Load More Replies...Indeed, there should be some certification before someone become a parent. The result of bad parenting can be disastrous.
Yeah, 60 years later I'm processing the emotional pain caused by my "family."
I have a lot of mental health issues because my parents do I dont want kids leave me be
Agree. I have to leave my appartment, because the noisy kids above are not controlled by their overwhelmed parents in their far to small flat. I am sorry for those kids' future. Think before you f**k.
If I had a reserve of multiple upvotes, it would go to this entry.
Load More Replies...Welp. There It Is
A married friend of mine has a daughter. She wishes she could have more children, but her body told her: nope, that's it. Her worry is for me. "Have children before it's too late," is her advice. Nah, I'm good.
I personally plan to adopt...partly cause I'm not interested in marriage. Also, I want to adopt an older child, to get them out of The System
Load More Replies...I want kids and I agree with this. True, I've sometimes seen childfree people be really nasty to parents and children (i.e. calling them breeders and crotch goblins), but I've also seen people with kids fly off the handle because someone doesn't think kids are the best thing in the world. Live and let live.
Child free people being nasty to breeders usually happens because the latter were offensive to the first
Load More Replies...I was a hyperactive child and a nightmare teenager. My mom always said I'd have a kid just like me. Ha ha ha, I won, Mom! Too late now and no regrets!
The advice my mom gives me based on our genetics is “if you’re going to have kids, have them in between your 20s and 30s because being a pregnant teenager is never good but if you wait too long, it might not work” that’s just based on our family history
I certainly didn't plan on getting pregnant at 16 (on the pill & using condoms. I used to joke my son should have been born wearing a shower cap with a hormonal imbalance). But I was in a really abusive relationship & figured if I were taking all these precautions and STILL got pregnant, maybe God was trying to tell me something. Having a young son to protect from his monster of a father gave me all the strength I needed to get out. Had I chose not to have my son I probably would have gone down the drug trail & died of an overdose or physical abuse. I honestly think that kid saved my life. But that was a CHOICE.
I am so sorry that you interpret this to mean that, ie, regretting that your children were born.
I have no children by choice. Over they years, quite a few parents have confided in me that they didn't really want to be parents. Their partner wanted kids, or they thought this was the adult script they had to follow. They loved their kids now that they're here and all, but it wasn't really the life they wanted. Left to make the choice again, they would've chosen differently.
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Imagine That. Maybe One Day
Or have two different scenes side by side, "Not pregnant, not pregnant, please please please", "be positive, please be positive". then "Yes!" both celebrating. "Whichever result you're hoping for, when you need to know, you need preggie-test."
The commercial could go like this: A younger girls is in tears walking out of what appears to be a court house , tv crews and cameras snapping pictures , press asking questions that she can't make out or answer. She finally get home , runs into the bathroom , still crying , and after a brief but torturous silence it comes back negative , cut to product info or message
Just One Simple Trick To Save Money
I am a surgeon. Every time some one calls me a nurse or asks if I am a nurse (if they see I'm in scrubs) I add a dollar. I spend the money on getting cute personalized scrubs and scrub hats that say "Dr. (LastName)" on them in big bright pretty embroidered fonts. It was the only way I could turn my boiling frustration and pent up irritation into something positive
Saw This Meme And Thought You Guys Would Enjoy It, Too
I've seen this image many times before, but never noticed the subtitle... haha!
Actress Jameela Jamil Celebrates Her Successful Cf Life, Shrugs Off Haters
CowboyHank, we understand and value your opinions. BUT! Abortion isn't murder. If it was, you could sue for it. If you believe abortion = bad, don't have one! simple as that! What you don't do is ruin a completely good post with your pro life bullshit. It's the same with others, don't ruin a good post with your pro- abortion bullshit. I am done with my angry Bored Panda rant!
Hell no, I don’t value his opinion. Dude’s a bigot with a baaad case of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Load More Replies...hello CowboyHank there was never a baby. They don't abort when you're at the baby stage
My abortion sucked, but only because I hemorrhaged afterwards. It sucked. But having a sixth child would have sucked too. I've done my bit for overpopulation, and have four daughters who are extremely well educated on their rights to do whatever the f*** with their bodies and lives.
I'm and adoptive mother. I am pro-choice. My kids both know their mothers could have aborted them and they opted not to. After going through adoption I can say it's so very, very hard on the birth mothers. We heard stories from social workers about birth mothers being debased in the hospitals by nurses for "giving up their babies" even when the nurses knew this was the birthmothers plan. Our agency made sure the BirthM held the baby so they were doubly sure, just in case they wanted to change their mind. It sounds so easy, you don't want the baby just place it for adoption. It's not easy. People stick their noses into what is going on. Pressure. The list is lengthy. In many ways I'm surprised it even happens. BTW adopting is tough, as it should be, they should not just place a baby any ol' place. It's expensive and frustrating. Not everyone can afford to adopt or are willing to adopt.
The Double Standards Are Wild
Everyone deserves praise for every accomplishment (though nobody is entitled to it and nobody should be forced to give it). It's hard work being human.
takes waaaay more work to get a job than it does to get knocked up (in most cases - I am interfertile, don't come at me haha)
I hate breeders when they act like they should be congratulated for having sex. Idiots.
I Think Someone Working In This Store Is Childfree
Haha, you think schools teach useful things? XD
Load More Replies...Conversely, butt sex is wild, and it don't cause no child. And it's FREE!
I was in checking customers through one day at the grocery store and a customer that was a regular came in with her teen daughter, daughters boyfriend and their new baby. Boy sets the baby carrier up on the belt and asks "let's see how much the baby costs!" I looked right at them and said "more than you can imagine or afford" kids looked dumbstruck, mom just smiled and nodded.
I am the only one person after this post "View more comments", who read "wear more condoms"?
GF Wanted A Dog, I Didn’t. What Happens? We Got A Dog. Then GF Wants Kids, I Don’t
GREAT CHOICE! I'm happy to see a man who doesn't fall for the babytrap. Also happy he kept the dog, he's obviously the better choice.
I fell into the baby trap, dropped the GF kept the kid it was win-win.
Load More Replies...So glad for both of you, the dog is so lucky to have someone like you.
He didn't want the dog and now he is happy with it... Not sure what is the difference with a baby... Could be same story...
Surely, given this is a fairly significant decision, this is a conversation (do we want kids) that happens long before it gets to this point.
This attitude toward the young of your own species is so repulsive. It's sociopathic.
Sounds to me like he understands how a commitment works. She wanted dog, he didn't. They split. She gets rid of dog. He steps up and keeps dog. So explain to me how you feel he is in the wrong here?
Load More Replies...Don't Do That
When I first picked up my birth control prescription (I'm on BC for medical reasons, I'm a virgin and not interested in changing that any time soon), I used my dad's membership card for a discount and the pharmacist asked if that's my boyfriend's card. I told her it's my dad's and she said "oh, he wants you to finish school" and then she handed me the receipt saying "so your BF knows how much to pay you back" and that next time, I should bring my BF with me to pay for it. Thanks for the support, random middle aged pharmacist lady, I'm sure some girl in the future will find that helpful, but that's still a bit invasive.
Goals
Really? I have two (17 & 12) and overall they've been a real bargain.
Load More Replies...This is cute. Child free folks should never be pressured to have kids they do not wish to have, ever. I will say, however, that I would trade all that money beside them for my baby. Not even close. To folks who have kids and actually like them and have enough money to support them and not be miserable...(gasp! we exist!) ....this is simply funny and not offensive at all. Good on them! Enjoy that money.
Bought this for my Daughter's car. Hopefully people will stop asking.
I think it was based off of this: https://xkcd.com/946/. you might be able to find it on their store page
Load More Replies...Louder For The People In The Back!
It is so weird to me that we literally need a license for everything, cars, planes, boats, sometimes dogs but when it comes to children people just be like: "you figure it out". Like... What the f**k?! Do not have kids before you are secure and settled. Those are human beings not a project you can abandon. I don't want kids. Never wanted them. I have never met a person regretting not having kids but a lot of parents I encountered are always happy when their kids leave for school or whatever. They are annoyed by them and try to make you feel pity for them and their f****d up choices. Because they have it so hard... Bla. Bla Bla. The children are the ones suffering from your lack of maturity. It breaks my heart to know that a child might feel unloved because of a parent that, if they had been honest with themselves, would have probably never had a baby. I don't want kids but it makes me unbelievable mad when kids get mistreated. It's called human decency.
Saw a bumper sticker once that read: "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em."
"If you can't feed your baby (Yeah, yeah) Then don't have a baby (Yeah, yeah) And don't think maybe (Yeah, yeah) If you can't feed your baby (Yeah, yeah)" - you heard it first from Michael Jackson.
That's what I thought when I read this. I could hear Wanna Be Startin' Something.
Load More Replies...Oh yeah, my sister and her husband waited until they both had solid careers and a good house with plenty of room before they went and had a kid. Now the little fellow is comfortable and well provided for, with a stable future. Imagine if they'd had him while they were still studying at university and living out of a cardboard box.
Blaming parents for poverty is a form of cruelty that has being going on forever. It has *never* been a fair or reasoned argument.
Sure is a cruelty. A cruelty for the children. It is a fair argument, especially when the parents have the choice and the knowledge to not have children if they can't afford them, but still continue to have them. I don't know if I will ever have children, but without the proper economical and psychological stability I will not put children into this world. It's my choice, and it will be my fault to have children I can't afford or that I'm not ready to grow properly
Load More Replies...Yep!! I’m selfish myself and I like my money more than having a child... plus my hubby and I can go and do anything we want without having to worry about how much we’re spending, etc. #WeGetSoMuchSleep
Load More Replies..."Without Kids, Your Christmas Must Have Been So Boring"- My Sil
Is this isnt my Christmas with my significant other I dont want it
We spend our Christmases visiting Christmas markets around various European countries. Before Covid was Bordeaux France one year and Prague and Brno another (with a side trip to Bad Goisern Austria for the Krampus parade). Last year were all three Baltic countries (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia). This year is two cities in Germany -- still deciding on the second but one will be Dresden.
I really don't understand why people with kids easily forget they still have moms and dads, uncles and aunties, brothers and sisters and the whole point of christmas is bringing everybody together, not just your childs
That sounds amazing. Further reinforces my choice to never have children.
No s**t. Her Christmas sounds amazing! Screeching brats, crying babies, claustrophobic dining rooms and kitchens? Noooo thank you.
Truth Hurts
I have heard people say that having children keeps you young. I usually reply: Have you looked in the mirror recently? Yeah, I'm evil.
What they mean is you are forced to play toddler games and watch toddler TV shows and movies. You don't "stay" young -- you are required to "behave" young. BIG difference.
Load More Replies...I ran into a few girls who graduated with me when we were around 40. They were being pestered by their kids while we were trying to chat. As we talked, all I kept thinking was, "damn, they all look so old! What happened?" Kids, kids happened.
Seriously. Young mothers tend to age really rapidly. I’ve seen women my age who look old enough to be my mother.
Not sure it's the kids, though. The most aging things are cigarettes, alcohol & drugs.
Load More Replies...I know someone who became a grandmother at 33. She is now 41 and her daughter and 3 grandchildren live with her. She looks like she’s in her mid to late 50s.
Not really true. Both my husband & I are regularly assumed to be a decade younger than we are, and we have two kids. It's just genetics, happiness & healthy living. :)
I'm 39 with a 5 and 7 year old people think I'm still in my twenties lol. But I think it's because I work out a lot and that is good for your skin and I always use SPF makeup to protect my skin as well. Could be genetics too I suppose
Load More Replies...When Being Child Free Gets You Extra 40 Hours/Week Of Work
I don't get the 'you're salaried, so no compensation'. I'm salaried too (almost everyone is here), for 32 hours a week. If I need to work more than 32 hours, I get compensated for those extra hours. I mean, in what world does being salaried mean 'you are compensated for 40-168 hours a week'??
Guessing you're from a more civilised country. America's labour laws are wack and employees usually aren't entitled to overtime. They get their set salary regardless of how many hours worked.
Load More Replies...Those wondering about what happened here is an update: https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/jfmth1/update_when_being_child_free_gets_you_extra_40/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I don't usually follow links but, wowza am I glad I followed THAT one. PHENOMENAL! I am always happy to hear when shady managers get their comeuppance
Load More Replies...For anyone interested there is a followup post to this one, I'll post the link here :- https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/jfmth1/update_when_being_child_free_gets_you_extra_40/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Screw that! If you're going to be doing twice the hours than the employees with kids, then you can get twice the compensation. Fight it!!! Make it clear you don't mind doing the work as long as you get just compensation for doing someone else's job.
Izzy, follow the link. It is so totally worth it! https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/jfmth1/update_when_being_child_free_gets_you_extra_40/
Load More Replies...I don't have children so I know what it's like when parents are favoured for time off and more sociable hours. However I also watched my sister and her partner homeschool a 6 year old and a 5 year old as well as care for their disabled 2 year old and both work a 35 hour week through lockdown. On top of everything else they had to worry about. I'm not joking when I say my 30 year old sister literally went grey haired in less than 12 months and developed pretty severe stress related issues. I'm sure many other parents also went through the same thing like those working for this company. It's absolutely right to refuse to work these hours without some kind of benefit/compensation etc. I just hope no one's expecting the parent co-workers to match these hours for "equality" seems like a pretty bad company for even suggesting this in the first place, it immediately caused a rift between it's own workforce for their own gain without offering any sort of incentive for doing so. Don't alien
Absolutely agreed. I don't have children and I don't want them (bit late now anyway - not impossible, but since I don't want... ) but I usually understand that being parents is stressful and that it often comes with social benefits, like vacations-time during the school-holidays and usually free for Christmas and stuff. I don't mind that (though I know others sometimes do) and it's after all that the parents create the new generations that have to carry my own retirement one day. But this? This is just insane and absolutely not okay, and I'm just glad to read that it had a happy end for the poster
Load More Replies...I found an update! They got their meeting and completely REAMED that manager, and don't have to work the insane overtime! https://amp.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/jfmth1/update_when_being_child_free_gets_you_extra_40/&ved=2ahUKEwiJrenMr5zwAhW-JzQIHXA0AcAQFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw1HyjovFtxDRIvbS3QMpg8m
Wise Words
My mother raised us kids to think like her, to be like her, to basically obey her every command. My siblings were a bit more amenable to her demands. I was not. No wonder we were at constant loggerheads.
I would never have raised my child to be like me, I wanted her to be educated and have a life of her own choice, mine was not.
Load More Replies...I cannot upvote this enough. When I was younger, my father wanted me to be like him, and when I started listening to my own music and reading and stuff he got mad. Then, I can out as not only bisexual, but also an atheist and he lost it. I retaliated by not putting a full 2 cups of sugar into the Kool aid.
100% agree. You should guide them when they're young, then let them go.
Yeah, my dad wants my sister and me to inherit his 2 businesses once we come of age. I just kinda brushed it off until way later (like, months later) when I pieced together what he'd said. He (fairly recently, I might add) started a business, tried to sell some pretty ridiculously priced clothing and such, sold not that many things, started a new business, sold under 35 items (an is selling some really random trash), and decides that his kids will have to inherit these businesses instead of living the lives they want. I know that he thinks his businesses will grow and become the new Amazons and Walmarts, but I'm thinking realistically here, and if his businesses last until my sis and I are old enough, we'll have to spend all of our lives trying to make it grow into the business he could never make it into. Alright, I'm venting here, I shouldn't be ranting so much about all of this kind of off-topic trash, so I'll just stop-
This is what my mom wanted. I turned out to be the opposite of her. She was racist towards black and asian people, (Were Mexican) Shes homophobic, Transphobic, Sexist, Wanted me to have kids, Abusive (Emotionally) Would gaslight me, Tried to use me for money when i got a job, And had anger issues. Im a Omnisexual nonbinary, Ive been to 5 pride rallies since ive moved out, Am planning to become a streamer/Youtuber (Which she said wasn't a real job and said i wouldn't make money) Have a girlfriend, and im planning a BLM protest with my girlfriend. :D Im proud of myself
I have 2 children, 1 of each. He's 41 and she's 32. When they were kids I encouraged them to think for themselves and to try to solve problems on their own (obviously I was there to help if needed). I encouraged them to QUESTION, to never just blindly do something an adult told them to do, especially if it felt wrong or made them uncomfortable. I also taught them that it was perfectly fine for them to disagree with me, as long as they did so respectfully and in low & soothing tones.
I taught my son to think for himself. Unfortunately, he decided to allow others to tell him how to think. His religious and political views are so out from what he saw me practicing that now he no longer speaks to me. Oh, he'll answer when I talk to him but HE won't call or speak to me. I am happy just knowing he's alive.
Is Anyone Else Thrilled To Not Have Kids Whenever They See/Hear One?
Other people’s kids are a nuisance. Your own children are nice. Nevertheless, don’t have them.
Load More Replies...I have these moments too. I mean I like to spend time with my niece and my nephew but I am forever greatful that I don't have to care fulltime for them. I like kids but I don't want to have them on my one.
I usually leave a place when seeing a kid because it triggers me so much that they are so loud
I made the decission to not want to have kids. It was a hard one for me, but especially since I´m in the homeoffice because of Corona and the kids (and also the mother) above us annoy the **** out of me, I am soooooooo happy I made this decission. But still I think...it´s not the kids to blame, it´s the parents.
I have a nephew who will be four in June. He shares my birthday. I recently found out he does like seeing me and my wife, and he talks about us quite a bit. It made me feel great to hear it, but that still doesn't make us want kids.
I don't have to see and/of hear them to feel a sense of relief. Just thinking about baby's and kids is enough. It's like when I was little and the news showed a bit about tornadoes which freaked me out. My dad would reassure me that there aren't F5 tornadoes in our area. Which made me feel better and keep away the nightmares. Knowing that I can no longer have kids due to a medical issue has been a great relief. I would not have been fit to raising kids. All that crap about "it's different when it's your own kid" is nonsense. Some people aren't meant to become parents. It's not for them and they're not up for the job. I'm just happy I knew this early on. And not after becoming a mom. If you really dislike kids having one of your own doesn't always magically change that. And I'm not willing to take the risk.
And people think I smile because I love watching kids having a 'good' time
Background: My husband is 63 & I'm 58. He has 3 adult children & I have 2. We are both grandparents. Having a discussion in an Uber with my sister. She just can't believe we've lived in San Diego for 8 years and never been to Disney Land (we're HUGE Disney/Pixar fans). I was like, "Ewww. You're aware it's full of children, right?". The driver started cracking up!
Yes. As I attempt to block out the incessant whining of the brat downstairs, outside of my window...
Wife Of 7 Years Left Because I Didn't Want Kids
He is definetly not the bad guy, his point of view was clear all the time
You made the right decision. She's evil for trying to force you to have a kid. What kind of life did she think that would've been? A man who clearly didn't want a kid, a kid who will feel that from about 3 years on, a wife who he will resent... happy family?
I know someone in a similar situation, but it was the woman who didn't want kids. He thought he could "talk her into it." They're divorced now. Upshot: You WILL not, and should not try to, "convince" your partner to have children.
Yeah, I also know the reverse-case. Except she went ahead and got sterilized and that way stopped the discussion. She REALLY didn't want kids. Her ex now has a new wife with kids.
Load More Replies...I said in my early teens I didn't want children....I'm 54. Childless. And happy with that. Was once told I was selfish for not having children, as I was denying my parents grandchildren. NOT a reason for someone to have children !! Never regretted my decision and if I had a do-over, wouldn't change.....If you want children, you know you want them....as much as people who don't want them know...trust yourself..
Kids are a deal breaker. He was very clear with her before they married - which they shouldn't have done in the first place. He did the right thing...but she DID tell him beforehand that she was going to "change his mind". My husband and I were absolutely never wanted kids, and we made sure we were on the same page from the start.
a guy did this to a girlfriend of mine... although they agreed not have children..i dont know what got over him..he gave her the same choice...she had the baby... she is no longer motherhood is not for everyone.
We know a couple where something similar has happened. He left, but they are still friends, and I never said nor will I say to him that he was wrong about this. No, his wife was wrong, because she wanted a kid after all.
I don't think you can really agree on not having children, especially not when you're young. The nesting-instinct sometimes hits you hard, and the discussion about it should be possible without resentment. But if one of them doesn't want to, that should also be accepted. (Although what a sad situation to live through)
Load More Replies...My mom wanted kids, based on his relationship to me and my siblings as well as other children (including grandchildren), my father did not. Sone 60 years ago it was expected. I don't know the circumstances, they have both passed but, my father never should have had children.
He would have been divorced anyway and stuck paying child support for a kid he never wanted. He should have filed for divorce when she gave him that ultimatum. No need to wait.
I Think We Can All Agree On This Post I Saw Today
Plants can be harder to care for than pets though. They're strange creatures with strange needs.
The trick with plants is to figure out where they natively come from and replicate as much of that environment as possible. Sometimes a LOT of it if you expect that plant to flower.
Load More Replies...I can't keep plants alive, not even a freakin succulent....no kids for me, thanks! Lol
Kids are much easier to keep alive than plants. They remind you when they need something.
Load More Replies...I dunno. I tend to kill plants. Not on purpose, of course. I don’t kill pets. Or children.
This is basically how the modern urbanite West now sees the offspring of their own species. I can't imagine being that alienated from nature.
I Got Pregnant After My Tubal Ligation And Doctors Are Treating It Like A Happy Miracle As I Sit Here Horrified
It's inappropriate for medical professionals to congratulate you on being pregnant when they knew you had a tubal ligation for the express purpose of not having any children. I hope that you received the help you needed.
Raine Soo, I don't know you, but I continually find myself in agreement with your posts.
Load More Replies...I am so sorry you are being subjected to this thoughtless behaviour and that your "lottery" let you down. Please know there are MANY of us who support you and share your frustration / outrage at this truly shi**y situation. I hope everything goes smoothly for you with your up-coming procedures. Just a though: can you get them to cut and cauter your tubes, versus just clamping them? Or did you have them cut and cantered and you still somehow got pregnant? If you did, and you did, I am so sorry for this absolute shite luck. If not, perhaps they can cut and cauter at the same time as they perform the abortion...? Sorry if this isn't feasible; having had my tubes cut and cautered and having never been pregnant, I don't actually know much about how pregnancy.
Sue the f**k out of them. I wouldn't be happy until that place was burned to the ground with their pathetic selves inside it
At least the ob/gyn I dealt with early on said "Happy Accident or Train Wreck?"
Such unprofessional behaviour should be brought to their attention. I don't mean to make a huge deal out of it to get them fired or anything, but still to make them aware of their attitude towards all kinds of patients, including those who, like you, happen to win that stupidest of lotteries.
My Friend Sent This To Me [humor]
I was told: All you need is to meet the right man. Well, the right man will not want children either.
My sister used to say " I want 6 kids when I grow up." And my reply was " 6, I don't even want the guy that is needed to start a family" Never changed my mind. I'm in my mid thirties. Single, no kids, and no intentions to change any of that. I've been dating, have been in a relationship. Even lived together for 2 years. All because I felt that was expected of me. It's not for me. Been single for some years now. Never been happier.
Load More Replies...There only thing I worry about is waking up when I'm 40-50 and feeling the need to have kids but now I'm too old to even play with my kid.
Just keep in shape if that is your main worry.. simple. (Assuming you are a male, you have more time than females to procreate, should you wish to do so)
Load More Replies...My theory is that older people try to convince you to have kids because they're far away from being kids, so they don't realize how traumatic it can be to have bad parents... I'd rather be lonely (which I won't) than ruin another human's life by being a bad parent
As a 74 year-old who never wanted children, I can attest to this! And I have NEVER had regrets about the decision..
I'm middle-aged (44) and I never changed my mind. 😊 If anything, I only became happier that I didn't have kids. If you start feeling like maybe you want one, spend some time with a toddler, or do the Big Brothers Big Sisters thing.
This one is extra funny to me because the person's avatar is a picture of Princess Caroline from BoJack Horseman - a character whose major arc in the series revolves around how much she wants to have a kid!
Hopefully in the near future, there will be a shift in thinking where people just accept you choice as being just that, YOUR choice and will leave it at that irrespective of whether they agree with it or not
Happy Birthday
And everyone's mom/grandma. She has kids and grandkids by the millions, without having to pay for, worry about or raise us!
Load More Replies...I don't understand people who like kids but not animals... like... you do know we're animals, right?
Two other well-known figures expressed a similar sentiment: Mark Twain, and Hitler.
Everyone: 'Have A Baby!' Me:
Cats know boundaries, too. My ten-year-old sister hasn't even learned what those are, cats know from the minute they can walk how to leave someone alone
Load More Replies...This. Is. Imporant
yes! a lot of cultures (like mine) are under the impression that getting married when you're 18 is normal....and for some reason, a 20 year old getting divorced is also considered quite normal
Me and my wife also do not want kids, so I am totally on board with most of the posts here. However, from my biological scientist view, I can only say that it is not a good idea to wait until you are 30+ to start having kids. As a society we have moved to a situation where socio-economically our 30's are the new 20's. But biology could not care less. Your 20's are still the best period for procreation. There is no way around that. Saying otherwise is simply ignoring reality and leads a lot of couples that do want kids onto an emotionally hard path of assisted conception.
And even if you plan on having kids later, after getting settled in a career, pre made ones are widely available if you don't want to create them yourself
They Got Me - Had To Slow Down For This One
Okay, but hear me out. I hit that kid because he hit my dog he had it coming. /s
Whenever I see the "Slow down, we love our children" signs, all I can think is, well then, teach them to stay out of the road??
My cat was killed in my front yard by a fast driving car, please slow down for pets as well please.
Load More Replies...I Have A Lot Of Reasons For Not Wanting Kids, And The World Being On Fire Is Definitely Among Them
I'm pretty sure there will be an article soon with the headline "Millennials killing the Paediatrician business by not having children"
This is my actual reason why I don't want to have kids if my own. I can't bring myself to do this to another human being. I'd rather adopt
After the past four years in the United States, who would want to have children?
It actually gives me comfort to know that not as many Millennials or Gen Z will raise children.
Half of these are only a problem in the US though. Well, all except climate change
Same thing when I was a teen in the 70's. Pollution, wars, weird politics, constant threat of nuclear war, fuel shortages, mass shootings, terrorist attacks...
There's always something. If someone's waiting for the world to be perfect, they'll be waiting a verrry long time.
Load More Replies...Millennials around here are mostly parents so I really don't get the ire directed towards them lol
I Will Never Ever Ever Get Tired Of Silence
People asking me if I get lonely in a quiet house. I realized these people cannot live without constant human contact and cannot grasp that I like the quiet and getting lost in my own thoughts.
When my nephew was little, my sister came over for a visit at my house without him once. We were just sitting around chatting, and she just stopped for a moment looking a bit discombobulated. Then she said, "Wow. This place is so quiet." Like she hadn't experienced quiet in so long that it was strange to her.
My aunt has like 5 kids living in her house and it's so f*****g loud and dirty. My sister slept over one night and said that the kid didn't shower and she had to hold her nose the sleep.
My neighbour's kids wake me up every single morning. I hate it. I wish so much to hear nothing. Always remember that it is not your chpice only. Sometimes enviroment is toxic.
Maybe the sonic energy the screaming kid generates will heat that cold brew up for you.
I'm Going To Print Out A Stack Of These And Hand Them Out To People Who Bingo Me
I am pushing 43. Have known my husband for almost 20 years. Never had kids because we dont want to. People still tell me I might change my mind and it is not too late. You cant win. Our families and closest friends have always supported our decision though.
Same here. Been married for 19 wonderful child less years. We both agreed early on that if we didn't have the financial ability or the desire to have them we would not. Absolutely no regrets!
Load More Replies...Maybe I'll change my mind but that will still be none of your f*cking business
I had a hysterectomy when I was 38. SO MANY PEOPLE would tell me, "Well, you can still adopt!" I would always respond, "Or I can just not have a kid." Still to this day, 6 years later, I still have people telling me that. Unreal.
Cf
So you got into syncronized swimming because you don't have kids... 🤣
Yes, we already get it. You cannot understand why some people decide NOT to breed. That has become very, very clear from your comments.
Load More Replies..."What Could Be Better Than Having Kids Then?"
My almost 9 year old grandson is at that stage. I warned my daughter it was coming up and she said nope it wouldn't. Now he is at that stage and she apologised to me for all the times she said it to me
Load More Replies...Well, in the past 30 days I purchased a black tasseled YSL handbag and a woven Louboutin beachy bag and paid CASH for both! And still put money into my savings account. Had to get my doggo to the groover today, again cash, and only $100 total.
I don't know what the "have no kids - have money!"-arguments imply. I'm childless by choice, but I still don't have money. Not broke, but certainly not rich. I would have even less with a child if I remained alone, but with a spouse AND a child, I might have even had more money than I have now. This is just false advertising.
Or say 'I hate you'. Or decide you are an old nuisance. Or patronise you as you get older and they're grown up and now think they know better. Children aren't a guarantee of love forever.
Load More Replies..."Being A Young Woman Without Kids Is A Privilege." No, It's An Active Decision
did they censor "cow"? Edit: i realized that said cr*p.......*facepalm*
The problem in Germany, if you want to have an abortion, is that there aren't that many doctors who do it. There are a couple of interesting articles that address the issue.
Americans pushing the idea that they are the "Greatest" country in the world lol
Sex Ed in the U.S. -- my 10 year old came home with a handout that pictured a boy and a girl wearing bathing suits. What's this? I asked. Answer? "Those are no touch zones."
Problem is..it is kind of a privilege. In some third world countries, women are not allowed to say no to having kids...it is expected they will produce children to carry on the family name, legacy, business..... Also, some religions do not allow for it. The Catholic church does not allow contraception and do not condone abortion. So in some cases, it is a privilege, not a choice. And if you say that they are allowed to go against their culture/religion...you are telling them to decide to have a life in which their entire family rejects them or they are shunned from the society they live in. For some women, that's worse than being forced to have kids.
I agree with you, but she is in Germany, which is a country that allows women to make decisions about their bodies. So for her, it was an active decision. You're right about other countries though, which are so backwards and messed up that it would be a privelege.
Load More Replies...Posted By A Friend With A Few Kids On Facebook
Lol I have asked people to give me 3 good reason as to why I should have kids...no one has delivered.
Because you'll have someone to take care of you after you can no longer take care of yourself. You'll have someone to leave all your pictures of your memories to. And you will have a back up financial support if something goes horribly wrong with your financial situation. Kids aren't kids forever. They grow up. I took care of my MIL when she fell ill...my sister took care of our father after he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Without their kids...they probably would have ended up in convalescent centers rotting away or possibly being abused. But I would just say if you choose to live kid free, have a back up plan for your golden years when you may not be able to get around or take care of yourself.
Load More Replies...It depends on who you ask. I know for a fact that motherhood isn't easy. Is it worth it? Heck yeah! I wouldn't give my son up for the world.
My mom says that there are no greater joys than those that come with parenthood, but that there is also no worse fear than what a parent has for the safety of their child. To some people, that's worth it. To me, it's not
Personally, I think it WAS worth it. BUT, that doesn't give me the right to push that on anyone else.
My Bloodline Ends With Me
I’ve never understood why some people are so concerned that their genes/family name are passed on to generations they’ll never meet. What makes your “dynasty” so special anyway? Egomaniacal behaviour.
It's not about that. It's about realizing you are the newest link in a chain of life going back to the dawn of humanity, and not wanting to be the one who brings that to a dead end and eliminates millions of years of nature's hard work. That's actually pretty humbling.
Load More Replies...Q: You don't understand, you're not a parent A: Yes, I'm not a parent, that's the whole idea- don't want to be. It's not like you can trial being a parent and then decide that it's not for you and give the child back
I wish I could say the bloodline ends with me but I have brothers who both want kids :/
Also true for relationships. People constantly say that I will change my mind when I meet The One. No, I won't. I love my single, child-free life with my dog and two cats. The only additions I plan to make to my family are more dogs and cats...and hopefully one day, some chickens, a goat, some sheep, a couple of pigs, maybe a horse or two, some bunnies...and so on.
Alternatives: I am Omega, I am the end, There's a reason there's nothing after Z, My lineage dies with me, Thank God my asthma won't be passed down, and (my favorite), My family tree has reached its conclusion.
I had a child. I love him to the moon and back. I didn't plan it, and if I could go back in time, would I do it again? Nope.
I'm 53. My Wife Is 60. We've Always Been Staunchly Childfree. Can I Tell You... It Only Gets Better
To have kids or not to have kids is anyone's own decision. I was sipping wine, cooking, and went for a 60 km bike ride yesterday, yet I have three daughters. Has life always been easy? No, neither will yours have been. Let everyone decide what they want, with or without children, and try to enjoy life.
yeah i sometimes wonder where they live if getting a kid seems to equals complete poverty.
Load More Replies...I had two kids and my body is fine. I have two dogs, and a cat, and used to have two rats, they passed away. I completely and totally understand, why people don't want kids, put some of these posts ar elike putting down people that wanted to have kids. I do the same thing on a Saturday night, but I don't have a partner, my husband died, and then my boyfriend died. You want to know what I get tired of? People asking me if I am dating again, when are you going to find yourself a man. I am totally and completely fine being by myself, in fact I love it. Soo on the other hand I can say, I don't want a boyfriend and quit asking me If I am dating, because I probably never will AgiAn!!
I’m 45 and child-free by choice. I work as a college teacher, four days a week because I make more than enough money (I’d be bored if I worked less, but I do like my 3-day weekend). My youngest brother is also child-free and works 3 days a week as a bus driver, and spends the rest of his time tinkering with electric stuff he taught himself. He too has ample money. Meanwhile my two other brothers who each have three young kids (and a good job) are perpetually short of money. Money can’t buy happiness but it’s nicer to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.
Congrats on a wonderful relationship and equally applicable to heterosexual and all LGBTQI couples
No. Caring for yourself is good. Having time for yourself is good. Not losing yourself is good. There's nothing wrong to NOT WANT to sacrifice your life for some mini-you and the bunch of society keeps telling me it's my duty.
Load More Replies...Okay so you're either a miserable human whose sole purpose in life is making shitty remarks to bring down others in hopes of feeling a tiny bit less shitty yourself. Or you're just a 13 year old little s**t, being a shitty, little s**t. Probably both judging by the remark about gross bodies. Grow up.
Load More Replies...Life Is Gooooood
Great View From Here
It might splash the people with no kids a little because of the friends who are parents pushing a little stress onto them.
This image implies some form of luck. I'm not even getting close to that activity (contraceptives) in order to not get involved.
I love how one person is walking down the sidewalk on his phone, completely oblivious.
When You're Cf But Also A Brilliant Troll
I just hope those ppl you invited were exactly those who never accepted/respected your personal choice.
Clever Girl
My bunny just said "some people don't deserve children" Isn't that impressive?
“if you have a ziplock bag and at first, you’re slowly adding a couple jelly beans at a time, and then all of a sudden you’re dumping jelly beans in, you’ll eventually get to a point where the bag is full. Sometimes, you’ll eat a handful of jelly beans, but every time you come back, the bag just keeps getting fuller. One day you come to the bag and it is simply bursting at the seams, it can barely contain all of the jelly beans. Is this the point where you look at it and go “oh it won’t be a big deal, I’ll just add a few more”? No. Stop having kids.” Story my gecko told me, completely true.
Got Annoyed About A Group Of Men I Don’t Know Bingo-Ing Me, So I Gave Them Something To Be Uncomfortable About
If they say we must have kids for the future workforce.....already got higher unemployment and lots more jobs will be automated in the future, so even fewer jobs to be had
Only In London
Specially At The Moment
Everytime we are on a teams meeting, there are kids shouting in the background. It's glorious to here when you have nothing but silence
My kids shout all the time in the background. Well I say shout, what I mean is mew very loudly.
Load More Replies...I Nominate Our Patron Saint To Be Jennifer Barkley Of Parks And Rec:
One of the other delivery drivers borrowed my van at the weekend. Monday morning I said "Did your kids enjoy the trip to the dump?" "How did you know I took my kids out in the van?" "I can smell them" Toddlers smell musty like old damp, rotting cookies.
This Speaks To Me
Kids are cool but have you tried not having to monitor anyone on vacations?
I found that kid free (as in no kids allowed) campsites exist. I usually holiday during term time, but might take this extra step to have a quiet time
Load More Replies...No Thanks, I Like Being A Free Elf
Well she obviously cannot be blamed on the regret you currently feel, as a result of a questionable decision you made, in spawning of said toddler. AmIdoingitrite?
One Could Also Choose The "God Will Provide" Route As We All Know That Free Money Is A Thing In This World
Dogs are way more expensive than $1,000.00 a year but I get where his coming from. Regarding N.G.'s post-I get it that too but I would never regret my Zoe; she's a beautiful black shepherd mix. Sure, it will destroy me when it's her time but the memories will all be worth it.
Hey, NG, we know that we'll probably bury our pets. But we love them anyway. When my cat Ragamuffin died, I adopted two kittens. And after they pass I'll miss them, of course, but then I'll have the opportunity to rescue another cat or two.
My Kinda Joint
Can we get this everywhere there is a high end restaurant? I'm so tired of spending good money on a great meal only to have it ruined because the kid in at the table next to us doesn't like anything on the menu and is screaming that he/she wants McDonald's. Meanwhile the parents ignore the child trying to say it's a tough love lesson when in reality, they're too engrossed in conversation with their friends/family about how much fun their expensive trip to the islands was. Sounds great! Why don't you go back right now and take bratzilla with you!
My boyfriend and I have never taken our toddler out to eat with us nor will we ever. Not until she is older. When we go out to dinner we want to enjoy ourselves and not have to worry about anything during that. If we don’t have anyone to watch her then we don’t go out to dinner simple as that.
This Came Across My Fb Feed. Yes!
The average age to become a mother in my country isn't even until 30. I think in Italy and Spain its 31. So having a kid well into your 30's is completely normal here already and not "old". If anything, having a kid below 25 is considered extremely young.
I don't hate kids I just don't like the loud and obnoxious ones that scream, cry and hit people
But Why Imagine It, When You Can Live It For Yourself?
I'm gonna be that one family member that slips the kids money, winks and says "Don't tell your parents" or I'll be the one to never show up to anything not even family reunions i'll just cut them all off and disappear.
Imma be the cool aunt/uncle who is like th eccentric one in the family and, like, does Rick climbing for a living or something
If you have friends with kids you can get to be their kids' aunt/uncle.
Load More Replies...If Nothing Else, At Least I Don’t Have That....
Haha Not In This Economy!
I am the only one amongst my siblings who does not have children. They worry about money, and their kids and their futures. I sleep great.
Hear hear, sister. Yes, I'd rather spend my money on filet mignon than on diapers. Actually just spent a hundred dollars on a great memory foam pillow and woke up at 10:30.
Load More Replies...Hallelujah
And I still have no options for a mortgage other than a Tiny Home, even with Jacinda’s low-deposit thingy. F**k only knows how I’d afford anything if I had kids.
I hear you. I'm child free but can't afford to rent anywhere that isn't literally half a room in a boarding house.
Load More Replies...Gatekeeping Being Tired Is For The Birds
I’m not even a mother but I still can say that I know what it’s like to be tired. When I was little I had to get brain scans to figure out what was wrong with me and one of my tests required me to stay up almost the entire night. I think I got like an hour of sleep but after being awake all night (as an 8 year old) it felt like I shut my eyes for a minute, not refreshing at all
Haven't Heard From...
To be fair, men don't get harassed as much as women over the subject of not having children.
People Who Cannot Afford Children Should Not Have Any. This Is A Hill I Will Die On
I had a baby at 18 after I was also that tiny percentage that was on the pill and taking it correctly. Everything op said is true, life has been a goddamm struggle. I'm only just beginning to feel like I can breathe again and my child is now 22. However, I still don't get to see my friends much because some of them now have very young children, so naturally they do things child friendly.
I know the health department in my town, you can get birth control for free if you’re under 18. Also planned parenthood offers very low priced birth control as well. And if you feel like you can’t afford it then it makes no sense to have a baby because how in the world are u going to afford one if u can’t even afford birth control.
Following your logic you'd buy a brandnew car although you don't have a drivers license and not even the money to pay for maintenance, insurance or road tax just because it's too hard to say no to the car salesman.
Load More Replies...6 Hells, 6 Naws
it's cool if someone want to have a big family, as long as they don't forced it onto you. you don't have to be bitter about it.
It's not cool for the planet. I find it as selfish as hell.
Load More Replies...Having kids means having to provide them with everything they need, but that does not include giving each their own car.
Yup. They don't get a car unless they've earned it. Same with phones, or anything really. ( Not food and care and stuff, but toys, playdates, material things. ) If your kid hasn't proven that they're mature enough to own these things then don't give it to them.
Load More Replies...We have one kid and it’s enough for us. I constantly have people asking me when I’m going to have another, I tell them never. I never want to go through pregnancy again I have trauma from it and I never want to deal with the newborn stage and months of sleepless nights again. Also if we had another we wouldn’t be able to live as comfortably as we do. I love my kid she’s enough for me.
From a personal economics logic perspective, if I were to have 6 kids with 6 cars, then they're all driving the same make and model (doesn't matter what it is, they'll all be the same). That would really reduce maintenance complexity for me. Then again, I will not be having any children, so I have the luxury to think of how nice it would be to buy filters and belts by the case.
The Absolute Horror
That's worse (also why let children in a haunted house i'm sorry but I for one wouldn't want to hear a child crying because something popped out at them but that's just my opinion)
That was an imaginary joke. My father made a real rude but funny one watching a table tennis game with an annoying child running everywhere between the seats, disturbing everyone for a while and he loudly asked "whom does this belongs to?".
Load More Replies...I Hope Memes Are Allowed Here
I've known of couples who had a kid hoping that parenthood would bring them closer and heal their relationship - when in fact the opposite happened. I also know a few people who were the children.
I’ve known a few as well, it never works out. It makes things much harder and usually leads to a separation.
Load More Replies...Memes are allowed, but just so you know, the point of that ad is that this tape is so awesome that it works even in those conditions. So your meme means : "A child is a solution to beter an unealthy relationship" ;-)
The tape doesn't look like it could hold the water back for very long to me
Load More Replies...At Least I Don’t Have Kids
you can have kids and cool things. maybe not clean things, but cool things none the less
Saw This Gem On Twitter
Oh boy, believe, wife and I are very aware of how good we have it. Seen a few divorces and a few friends fight over kids in this pandemic.
Trying to force a kid to do zoom schooling while I have to deal my own work sounds absolutely awful. I think it is so strange the people that chose to have babies during this pandemic. Are you not looking at the world going to sh-i-t around you?
A Mombie On Twitter Complained How High Her Hospital Bills Were After Giving Birth And How Expensive Raising A Child Is. She Got This Response:
In the US they are - even if you have the best health plans on the market
Load More Replies...I disagree with this. Plenty of reason for being childfree. But if you are so concerned about a baby using healthcare or natural resources, you should first get rid of yourself. Every human is a burden for the planet, but we aren't here celebrating for every new war, mass murders or death for good reasons
And without kids: no nurse, no pension, ... Let everyone decide whatever they want.
If you have kids just so that they'll wipe your ass when you're too old to do it yourself, you'll find out that they don't want anything to do with you anyway.
Load More Replies...but without next generations, the healthcare system will stop functioning
I'm so happy to see that being childfree is finally becoming more normal and less of a taboo. Seeing more and more childfree stories on social media, news, sites like this and heard from famous people. It's good. People need to know there are choices. You don't have to have kids just because people act like it's normal.
Exactly. If you reeeeally want kids (and can afford them) then by all means, have them. But no one should be shamed for not wanting or having them.
Load More Replies...Just imagine how far people would get in life if they had the ability to keep their projections in check and just let people live however they see fit. Why does it matter so much if people choose to remain single and child-free? Let people breathe and let them live, shesh
The reason why child free postings tend to be so passive aggressive is because these people are FED UP with being asked why the heck they don't want kids
Load More Replies...Not wanting kids is cool. Don't have any, never will. I still celebrate mothers, though. And fathers. Tough, tough job
Having or not having kids is a personal choice. No one should judge you or ask you. And while someone can lead a very happy life with no kids, one can also do with kids. I would never ever change anything about my life and I have 3 wonderful children that are pure love and joy. I enjoy every second with them. And I also don't want to be made to feel guilty about it.
We enjoy going out for dinner a few times a month. My father-in-law once commented on this: "In our days, we didn't have the luxury of wasting all that money on eating out!" I'm so glad my husband simply replied with: "Thats because you choose to have children and mum choose to be a stay at home mum. Nothing wrong with people making different choices in different times."
As a nursery school teacher I'd wish for people to stop having kids just because they feel like they have to, or because 'they are cute'. More often than not these kids end up for nine hours in daycare, never fully able to really bond with their parents. And I am not talking about single parents, who have to work two jobs, but parents who just 'really, really wanted a child' but also don't want to give up their three yearly holiday trips or their precious free time. Having a kid means having tonmake compromises. If you are not mature enough to see that or willing to do that, don't have a child.
I have two kids.. I had first at 35 and second at 39.. I decided to have them now because at this moment my husband and I were the same way. For years everybody asked "when will you have kids?" "When everybody will stop asking" ..when I hear these conversations I get angry and take the defense of those who do not want children .. for years I didn't wanted kids too and I understand what it means. Having children or not having children is an extremely personal choice. I wanted to have children, "when" and "why" only concern me and my partner and no one else, and not wanting children is exactly the same.. I feel like a straight person defending LGBT rights.. because it's just right..
I’m a single Dad who has a rather delightful ten year old daughter. She brings a ton of joy into my world. I have friends in their 30s, 40s & 50s who are all child free, we meet at gigs or pubs and I always know their reckless abandon with alcohol is not for me, here’s where it is different though, I love their devil-may-care attitude to life, some of it rubs off on me in a great way, I get to be Gavin, not Dad, I get to put the responsibilities aside and play at being childless every now and again. I’m properly pleased for my mates who’ve made the decision to not have children, they are living the lifestyle they choose, equally I love those who have chosen to have children. I’m in a new relationship and we’ve agreed that we both have the children we need in our lives, we will stick with those we have, we don’t need a child to prove we are in love or that we are committed to each other. That rules applies to everyone y’know?
Can I say now that I don't want kids because I genuinely dislike children so intensely that the thought of having one around me makes me want to punch my own lights out.
I'm with you. I have a literal visceral response to the sound of kids -- makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I wince as if someone ran their fingernails across a blackboard.
Load More Replies...I'm so happy to see that being childfree is finally becoming more normal and less of a taboo. Seeing more and more childfree stories on social media, news, sites like this and heard from famous people. It's good. People need to know there are choices. You don't have to have kids just because people act like it's normal.
Exactly. If you reeeeally want kids (and can afford them) then by all means, have them. But no one should be shamed for not wanting or having them.
Load More Replies...Just imagine how far people would get in life if they had the ability to keep their projections in check and just let people live however they see fit. Why does it matter so much if people choose to remain single and child-free? Let people breathe and let them live, shesh
The reason why child free postings tend to be so passive aggressive is because these people are FED UP with being asked why the heck they don't want kids
Load More Replies...Not wanting kids is cool. Don't have any, never will. I still celebrate mothers, though. And fathers. Tough, tough job
Having or not having kids is a personal choice. No one should judge you or ask you. And while someone can lead a very happy life with no kids, one can also do with kids. I would never ever change anything about my life and I have 3 wonderful children that are pure love and joy. I enjoy every second with them. And I also don't want to be made to feel guilty about it.
We enjoy going out for dinner a few times a month. My father-in-law once commented on this: "In our days, we didn't have the luxury of wasting all that money on eating out!" I'm so glad my husband simply replied with: "Thats because you choose to have children and mum choose to be a stay at home mum. Nothing wrong with people making different choices in different times."
As a nursery school teacher I'd wish for people to stop having kids just because they feel like they have to, or because 'they are cute'. More often than not these kids end up for nine hours in daycare, never fully able to really bond with their parents. And I am not talking about single parents, who have to work two jobs, but parents who just 'really, really wanted a child' but also don't want to give up their three yearly holiday trips or their precious free time. Having a kid means having tonmake compromises. If you are not mature enough to see that or willing to do that, don't have a child.
I have two kids.. I had first at 35 and second at 39.. I decided to have them now because at this moment my husband and I were the same way. For years everybody asked "when will you have kids?" "When everybody will stop asking" ..when I hear these conversations I get angry and take the defense of those who do not want children .. for years I didn't wanted kids too and I understand what it means. Having children or not having children is an extremely personal choice. I wanted to have children, "when" and "why" only concern me and my partner and no one else, and not wanting children is exactly the same.. I feel like a straight person defending LGBT rights.. because it's just right..
I’m a single Dad who has a rather delightful ten year old daughter. She brings a ton of joy into my world. I have friends in their 30s, 40s & 50s who are all child free, we meet at gigs or pubs and I always know their reckless abandon with alcohol is not for me, here’s where it is different though, I love their devil-may-care attitude to life, some of it rubs off on me in a great way, I get to be Gavin, not Dad, I get to put the responsibilities aside and play at being childless every now and again. I’m properly pleased for my mates who’ve made the decision to not have children, they are living the lifestyle they choose, equally I love those who have chosen to have children. I’m in a new relationship and we’ve agreed that we both have the children we need in our lives, we will stick with those we have, we don’t need a child to prove we are in love or that we are committed to each other. That rules applies to everyone y’know?
Can I say now that I don't want kids because I genuinely dislike children so intensely that the thought of having one around me makes me want to punch my own lights out.
I'm with you. I have a literal visceral response to the sound of kids -- makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I wince as if someone ran their fingernails across a blackboard.
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