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Here Are 30 Red Flags Real Estate Agents And Homeowners On Reddit Are Suggesting To Look Out For When Getting A House
Buying a house could easily be considered one of the most important milestones a person goes through. And yes, it's a truly joyful experience to finally obtain your own place that belongs solely to you and/or your family, but this whole venture of trying to land a house inevitably comes with a lot of stress and things to consider. It's so much more than simply being able to afford one—this whole process includes many important tasks such as, for example, conducting thorough research and reading up on real estate agents' red flags in home buying.
Luckily, there are a few threads on Reddit dedicated to real estate agents and homeowners sharing the most important red flags one should definitely consider when looking for a home. With that being said, Bored Panda invites you to look through some of the most interesting tips we managed to find.
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Pizza delivery no-go zones.
If your realtor says "built to code", that means they made the building as crappy as legally possible.
Go to showings when it's rainy as heck, then check out the basement.
This will expose any water issues with the foundation even a moron like me could see. One house I was shown had a cable run into the basement from outside at the dirt level and never sealed - so there was a stream of water pouring over the circuit breaker box onto the basement floor.
Passed on that house.
Lol, That’s similar to the advice I gave above (well below now)
When you bang on the walls if you hear moving it's probably squirrels. Source - bought house full of squirrels
Imagine your just walking around with the realtor and you just start banging the walls ha.
If they look worried or ask you to stop you probably don't want the place
Load More Replies...If you don't bang on the walls when you hear "moving" it might be something else...
Or snakes. I'd rather have the squirrels. Google "Idaho snake house" for an example why. If you don't want to sleep tonight.
Squirrels are cute in trees but in your home you should think of them as fuzzy-tailed rats,
Actually... I did this... but usually asking the spouse to go to the next room to see what kind of sound made it through...
Fresh paint, new carpet, but nothing else updated. It's the realtor remodel special. Just there to make you feel good on your 15 min walk through. Look at the tiles, trim, foundation to see what you really need to know. And always drive the neighborhood at night if you do not know it.
Also it may sound weird but check the toilet bowl. Again another lesson learnt the hard way.
If you are viewing houses in the winter and there are a lot of icicles on the roof it’s not properly insulated.
If you see moisture streak stains or signs of dew on the INSIDE of the house then there is in insulation issue. I prefer to house hunt in winter coz that’s when you find most of the problems. I know you can’t be picky on the weather but when it is raining is best. I have learnt the hard way.
As a construction guy, please please PLEASE check the attic. People buy houses and never check the actual AC. If you go up there and smell a burnt smell, or see big silvery tubes that look crumpled, those are issues.
If there is any strong smell, don't buy. No one spends $80 on Glade plugins unless they are trying to hide something.
are there not supposed to be big silvery crumpled tubes and a burnt smell when you turn on the heat?? Is something wrong with my house then? It's been like this for forever, and it's about 17 years old now, and the only problems we've had was with foundation because we live at the top of a hill of "soil" (mostly clay).
If you walk into a house and are hit by the smell of Febreeze or air fresheners...well, expect that it probably smells like dogs or smoke when that stuff wears off.
Bear in mind that a lot of agents like to burn pretty smelling candles or bake some cookies right before an open house, so it's not a hard-and-fast rule. You mostly want to watch out for it if you're seeing it by appointment...
When I was young, my parents took me to an open house and they both loved everything about the property. Cut to us being in the half finished, half unfinished basement and my mom has gone into the unfinished part, which has insulation completely put up around what would be exposed foundation concrete bricks. She finds a seam in the insulation and, 'cause that's who she is...pulls it back a little. My dad is in the middle of saying "dont do that, you're being rediculouse" when she interrupts him to tell him to have a look. Huge crack in the foundation running from the floor, diagonally across the entire foundation and up to the ceiling.
Dad told the realtor, who was pissed. off. The owners never told her...which you are supposed to do.
TLDR: exposed insulation installed along unfinished foundational wall may = crack in the foundation. otherwise known as...never get upset at a nosey wife while looking at buying a house.
USA realtor equally angry at both parties --- as long as he doesn't officially know he's not obliged to mention (nor check if suspects). So if she hadn't pointed out he could have continued even though he knows the score when he sees weird basement works.
Is this property in a flood zone?
Just because it's not on the water, doesn't mean the property is flood free. Check with the county AND ask the neighbors.
With Global Warming - do not buy properties near water and only a wee bit above water level...
When the sellers have stuff hung on the walls in places no one would EVER hang stuff, they may be covering up damage from a decade-long termite infestation.
Source: bought a house where the sellers had stuff hung on the walls in places no one would ever hang stuff, to cover up a decade-long termite infestation.
Not a realtor, but viewed many homes before buying -- couple things I ran into a lot.
1. Lots of incense/fresheners usually means they are trying to cover up something.
2. Inspect the paint, a ridiculous number of people throw on new paint prior to listing, but do a shit job and just paint over damage.
3. Houses built pre 1930 (In US/CA anyway) can be beautiful, but might as well say 'here be dragons' when trying to find problems.
4. If the place has renters/tenants that don't want you to view -- they may end up being a pain later, especially if you need to get rid of them.
5. Put a marble on the floor and see where/if it rolls.
Hahaha, Number 5 is a good one. I lived in a house where I couldn’t put anything cylinder in shape on the table otherwise it rolled off. The good thing about it though is I never had to worry about someone leaving the fridge or freezer door open. The door closed by itself.
For the love of god check your cell phone signal in the house. I just moved into a new house and I have one bar on the second floor if i stand on a chair.
Turns out there's only one cell tower to serve the surrounding neighborhood of 200+ houses and since it's next to a neighboorhood of million dollar homes they can't get the approval to put in another one so I'm SOL.
My apartment building acts like a Faraday cage so I had to contact my carrier to get a free signal repeater to get bars in the back half of my place. Any decent carrier will just send one out, though, so it's not a really big deal.
If they don’t let you see a particular room / attic, basement etc for some excuse.
A friend of mine couldn't understand why her Estate Agent wouldn't take her to see a house on a particular day usually a Thursday as she had to go there a few times to measure up for curtains and furniture. When they did go they went a much longer route than was necessary. The first time the agent said it was to see the area she would be living in. But she couldn't understand it the other times. Also they never went if there was more than a strong breeze blowing. When she moved in she realised what the Agent was doing. He was trying to avoid her seeing the rather large abattoir that was just off the road that was the shortest route to her house . Thursday was the abattoir's busiest day so that was why she didn't go on that day in case she heard anything and the reason they didn't go on windy days was because the wind carried the smell of freshly killed animals over towards her house. Thankfully she found all this out before she decided to buy the house. So ALWAYS check the area of your new house thoroughly and not just with your Estate Agent.
Whether you get enough sunlight. Lived in an apartment that was shadowed by other apartments and trees on the other side. Barely got any sunlight. And it was always so cold.
When you see even the family of 10 rats moving out as well
Speaking from personal experience - look out for a seller who likes to do DIY home improvements. Sure,those cabinets etc look OK but you are in for a lifetime of shitty problems! For example, the DIY kitchen cupboards all have awkward and poorly sealed gaps which became the scene of a mouse and cockroach infestation. Had to rip it all apart to figure that out. NEVER ever buying a home from a DIY dipshit again! almost 10 years later and we still regularly find a new catastrophe caused by his DIY projects !!
I bought my house three years ago and it's been a chore fixing all the previous owner's terrible DIY. Mostly cosmetic stuff, like none of the drains in the house had been installed properly. I love my house though.
Incense, essential oil diffusers, "put vanilla essence in the oven before the inspection" and other masking smells. Also known as "This house has a mould issue".
My Grandfather sold Real Estate for decades. The 1st two things he looked for was the roof and the furnace. If either were too old or looked like a possible replacement was needed soon then it's something to consider (most first time home buyers can't afford to replace in first couple years, and many older homeowners would rather not either).
Realtor here.
Grading. Hands down. Or, the angle at which the ground slopes at the foundation of the house.
If the ground slopes towards the house, then that means any rain is just going to be funnelled right up to your foundation, and can cause some big problems.
Extra caution if it is sloped concrete, like a driveway, cause that means either mudjacking or jackhammering, both labour and cost intensive.
Seriously, when you're looking at a house do a walk around the perimeter first. Could save you tens of thousands and Future Foundation problems
This can be solved with proper drainage to redirect water flow. I live in the mountains. We don't have a choice. If we're not living on a grade, we must not be *here*.
Plug in the address to the state/local Sex Offender Registry. Nothing worse than finding out your new family home is 2 houses away from a violent pedophile.
If the house has been on the market a long time and there is only 1 picture...good chance it needs gutted.
And if they can't sell, you won't be able to sell it when you want to.
Visit the neighborhood late at night. Drive around the surrounding streets and see how comfortable you are with it.
Check your phone coverage when inside the various rooms.
I once toured a house near a major city. I drove around the surrounding neighborhood. I noticed that the amount of rust on the cars increased sharply about two blocks away. I came to the conclusion that I would never want to turn left out of the driveway. Nope!
Not a real estate agent.
But the real estate agent is a red flag you should look out for when buying a house. Take what they say with a grain of salt, they have an interest in you buying the house.
Yes, this is a fact. Get your own inspections done. My realtor said a septic inspection on my current house had been done and passed. Had my own done and it failed. I told them it was a breaking point for me and that if they weren't willing to have it replaced I was walking. Ended up getting a new septic system. That would have cost me 20 grand if I listened to the agent.
Highway noise. I’m 1000 feet from one and it’s so fricking loud.
Exterior
Look for efflorescence (white ring from water) on any concrete, stone or brick. Also look for any cracks that are larger than 1/4 of an inch. Look for lifted shingles, popped nails or any damage to the roof. You can make a good guess at the age of a shingled roof by looking at the space between the tabs or on architectural shingles the amount of grit left on the shingles. Also on a brick or stone house push on the exterior walls hard. A lot more houses than you think have a wall that will move. And look for small holes that have been filled spaced evenly around the house (evidence of termite treatment).
Interior
Check all your windows, if there is any condensation buildup or evidence of previous condensation they have probably lost their seal. If there are air fresheners anywhere be suspicious, look for them in the vents if the vents are in the ceiling. If they are present they have possibly had water issues in the ductwork. Also if the house is on a slab look in the ducts in the slab to see if there is water or any evidence of water. Look for rust on the water heater and the breaker box.
If the upstairs and downstairs have different corners, like rounded bullnose upstairs and square downstairs, the basement probably wasn’t finished by the builder. Make sure and check whether the basement finish was permitted. If not, you can’t be sure everything was done according to building codes.
Likewise if you find windows in the basement that have metal frames with levers to detach them, those are construction windows. Most professionally finished basements will replace those with nicer windows, perhaps with vinyl frames. Sometimes this means the homeowner finished the basement and was trying to cut costs and corners.
Open every door and window in the house to see if any stick at the top or sides, which may indicate settling problems.
Look for changes in drywall texture. Drywall texture is tricky to match well. It may be an indication there was water damage, or excessively rough inhabitants, or an addition was built on.
Not an agent but I can tell you read the termite paperwork very carefully. I bought a house full of termites that came with paperwork from an exterminator. All they would do is retreat. It took three re-treatments to get rid of them and I had to pay to replace a lot of wood myself.
signs of water collecting or damage; windows (age, quality); radon test, indoor air quality assessments; is the home in a flood zone and what is the historical data regarding floods and other catastrophic weather events (not covered by traditional homeowners insurance so this is a cost to consider in addition to overall risk)-- maybe these arent subtle but rather less often thought of items that lead to the most expensive and / or catastrophic outcomes
Did the homeowners bother to clean for the showing?
If you walk into a dirty house they are actively trying to sell, the sellers are likely neglecting lots of basic upkeep on appliances, the yard, etc.
Look for any signs of DIY or cheaply finished projects; if you can spot it done poorly on the outside it is probably worse where you can't see it.
Ikea cabinets in the kitchen are also a red flag for me; they are cheaper and easier, meaning someone was not invested in the longevity of the work or they weren't all that handy. Fine for a starter-home, or if you want to gut the kitchen anyway, but not good for somewhere you plan on living for 20-40 years.
If they tell you the roof was just redone, ask how much it cost.
If it seems like too good of a number, chances are they brought in some unlicensed workers who just put a new roof over the old rotting roof, meaning in about 8 years your roof will be rotting and leaking again and then you'll have to pay to have TWO roofs removed AND all new decking installed, because that shit is for sure gonna rot with an entire extra roof on top of it.
Make sure that the roof comes with a good warranty and, in the UK, make sure you know its been passed by your local authority's Building Control.
Get a glass of water as soon as you get in. If it smells bad or is non drinkable. Nope out
Look out for movement around the bays of older houses, the foundations are not dug as deep around bay windows.
Roofs last around 80 years, know where in it's lifespan your roof is.
You can cover most things with indemnity insurance.
Woodworm, mould, infestations and damp are all caused by an imbalance of humidity. Correcting the humidity is the answer - not spraying everything with chemicals.
If you find the house desirable then someone else in the future will too - even if it's next to a busy road or whatever. You can sell anything so long as it's correctly priced.
Look at other houses on the street to see what planning permission has previously been given to others - this sets precedent that you will be able to do the same.
Insist on 'vacant possession' when buying - you don't want to inherit an attic full of someone else's crap.
Foundations aren't dug as deep around bay windows? That's utter nonsense. Also, Roof lifespan is determined by the materials used, and quality of installation.
I'd like to add that if there is a basement check the floor joists for the 1st floor. One house I looked at was a great house however it was sitting on an old stone foundation with no vapor barrier or anything between itself and the floor joists. The joists were rotted at both ends, to the point where you could push your finger through. Two stories of house were sitting atop these so its a serious issue.
Guess who had an inspector tell them it was a problem when they originally bought the house? Guess what wasn't on the sellers disclosure? Guess who played dumb? We finally got them to give up their inspection report (after two weeks) which outlined the issue. Don't trust sellers.
Real estate agent sort of played dumb, too. Noped out of that house real quick.
An inspector taking only an hour or two to look at the house
Along with the advice to go during the hours you'd normally be home, make sure to check local crime stats if they're offered in your area. We found a wonderful little starter house, neighborhood was iffy but not terrible, really quiet every time we visited. Asked about crime in the area and the realtor told us they legally couldn't answer that. We looked it up ourselves on an open source crime database and found out that robberies were super common on the street and that a car had been stolen from the house we were looking a year prior and then again six months prior.
Realtors have to be very careful about what they say. They won't say anything negative. Way back when I was single, I asked a realtor about the neighborhood. He said: "They have a good school system here." I said: "But I'm not married." He replied, with a wink, "They have...a good school system...here." I got the hint. (I should point out that the agent was working for me as a buyer broker and was not representing the seller.)
Be extra careful if the house used to be rented out. We bought a house that was rented out the year before we moved in, and it was RIDDLED WITH BEDBUGS. The inspector will not check for this. It cost us thousands.
There are bedbug-sniffing dogs that can give you a definitive answer on bedbugs.
Be sure to test all appliances that are staying with the house. Ice maker, dishwasher, microwave, garbage disposal, stove, washer/dryer, etc. Nothing worse than spending so much money to get into a house only to realize half the appliances don't work properly. Also, be sure to visit the house multiple times from the time you are under contract until closing day. Check out the house and yard when it's raining, scope out the neighborhood in the evening when all the neighbors are home, try to drop by on Saturday or Sunday mornings to see which neighbor is mowing their grass at 8am. When going to initial showings, make sure the house doesn't have any strong odors (pets, cigarettes, etc.). My boyfriend and I are both realtors and you'd be surprised how many people genuinely believe that smells can just be aired out. I've seen a lot of clients have to completely replace all the floors in their new house because of animal urine.
There is a product "Odor Mute." I have been using it for over thirty years. It gets rid of ALL organic odors. Even Skunk. Remember, though, skunk odor is an oil stain. DO NOT WASH IT FIRST. The water sets the stain and it is almost impossible to get out. I use a degreaser, first, then bath the pup [or gawd help you, the cat] with a good shampoo. THEN rinse and mix about two tablespoons of Odor mute with warm water, about a gallon. Towel dry the dog, and pour the solution all over the dog, soaking them completely. This should take care of it. Bleach tile and cement that has odors, the bleach will take out the odor. For carpet, blot up wet stain. Pour odor mute on it, then put heavy folded towel on it, weighted with a very heavy object. Leave it until the fluids are picked up. It will not only get the odor, it will also get the "stain." Twenty seven pups and four cats later, is still is my go to. BTW, once it dries, it will reactive if it gets wet again and the solution
if you walk in and the house smell is just OVERPOWERED by nice "smellys".
Air fresheners, incense sticks etc.
They are probobly trying to a hide a smell that is more permenant.
Not a REA, just a homeowner.
Red Flags:
If you hear "foundation work", flee, no matter the warranty. Same for foundation cracks and patches and unlevel anything.
Check the outside wiring, especially the incoming cable/telco. If it's frayed/patched/worn it will affect everything coming in on it.
Fuse panel, particularly on older homes.
Aluminum wiring in 70s-80s vintage homes.
Make sure the current owner can show you all traps and cleanouts for the plumbing and that they work.
Consider hiring your own inspector, do *not* trust that one hired by either agent will be in your court.
Those are the major ones, IMO.
Always check the basement ceiling for mold. It will probably be black. This shit is deadly and extremely expensive to deal with. Do this especially if you see a de-humidifier in the basement.
Don't street appraise a house. A good looking front is a plus but you should be looking at the whole package. I'll personally buy the worst house in the best neighborhood every time. Crappy neighbors are the worst.
Look for too many cars parked on the street at night. Are kids playing outside?(if yes it's probably a relatively safe area). Are the neighbors lawns cut? Location, location, location.
Light bulb won't turn on get a new bulb and check again.
Bought a house with bad wiring
I'm not a realtor but base off experience, may want to stay away from For Sale by Owner. They don't always disclose everything up front. I was in the process of purchasing a manufactured home, everything seem to be going ok until the appraisal went through. We found out he had moved the house from one spot of the lot to another which made the house not eligible for finance loan. He didn't want to release the earnest money check back to me and threaten to bring in his lawyer. Only when I said I would go to court to fight for it he gave up, we also found out he had had 7 previous fail contracts with the house. The thing that sucked was I lost close to $1,500 in inspection/appraisal fees
REALTOR here. There are a lot of subtle things, try using a professional if you can. In VA where I am buyer representation is free. Barring that, age of HVAC, roof, permits for additions, things staged in a way that looks odd (possibly trying to cover something), black spots on the Plywood of the roof, piles of sawdust or patterns in the wood (insects), sagging dry wall or water anywhere it shouldn't be, visible cracks on brick/concrete, priced really competitively. None of these are necessarily a no go, but they are things that need to be looked into by a professional.
I always look around the floor of the basement, usually you can tell if there has been standing water down there. Obvious signs are: A 'ring', like a high water mark. It can be difficult to see if there has been some cleanup(i.e. cover-up) done, but you can usually tell on the back of the stairs or someplace else inconspicuous.
If there is anything metal down there, like a shelving unit, and the legs are all rusty.
If there are lifted or missing tiles, particularly if it's in a low spot or around a drain.
A simple test I learned when home shopping. Take a golf ball with you. Go to the open floors and place it on the ground. If that ball starts rolling in different directions, your foundation is off kilter. Were talking in the tens of thousands of dollars to fix. Nope right on out of there.
Look out for anything built before the 90's..asbestos can be in the building, it's materials, siding, flooring, insulation, you name it. Asbestos is very expensive to get rid of because it is very dangerous to breathe in. A simple change of attic insulation could go from $1,000-$10,000 in a heartbeat.
When a ghost who inhabits the house casually introduces himself.
My house in Ohio had a ghost who turned out to be very helpful. He would help me find lost things, and scare away people I didn’t want to be there.
Pay for a very good home inspector, go with them with a notebook, and take pics the WHOLE TIME. Got $30 K knocked off since I'd hve about $10K in work to do, th erest was cosmetics.
It's a long ass read but it's very great tips for new buyer or even for rent. When it comes to buying a house, not just look at the beautiful pics or walk-in, there are so many things you have to look out, and I totally agree with go drive by at night or Sunday morning so you can feel/see what's the different day and night. And right here they did not mention about look up the location history, this is a must on our list, you don't want to buy a house there is a history of people slaughter human/animals/graveyard/mass graves...or just stuff like that. And nowadays people rather buy new build house than the old homes, save more dramaz and money.
Also, check cars in the neighborhood. If htey're in your price range, odds are, the house will be (for those just driving around).
Load More Replies...My advice is to take pictures while furniture is still in it so it gives people ideas of where they can put their stuff and what they can do with the place. It works I had my house sold in 2 days but then they didn't have enough money ey but it ended up selling the second week, then I moved to the other house and after a while we finally found the perfect home and we moved but didn't take pictures with the furniture or anything and it took almost a year and a half to sell. Just make it look nice but don't try to cover anything up.
I agree-inspection! Buying 2nd house now; luckily I worked at a school for 7 years 3 houses down so I know the neighborhood, did not need to check it out at night. It is also kinda ritzy with a strict and active HOA so not worried about neighborhood etiquette. The house is great and location perfect. Super excited!
Handymen, contractors and inspectors in the agent's rolodex will always have an agenda to aid the realtor. Always get your own agent but still be cautious. My agent's contractor said a collapsing ceiling with unsecured rafters above was just an optical illusion. Owners had removed a load bearing wall with no attempt to re-engineer or provide alternate support.
Trust your gut. Amount other problems, appliances worked just enough to turn on.
Pay for a very good home inspector, go with them with a notebook, and take pics the WHOLE TIME. Got $30 K knocked off since I'd hve about $10K in work to do, th erest was cosmetics.
It's a long ass read but it's very great tips for new buyer or even for rent. When it comes to buying a house, not just look at the beautiful pics or walk-in, there are so many things you have to look out, and I totally agree with go drive by at night or Sunday morning so you can feel/see what's the different day and night. And right here they did not mention about look up the location history, this is a must on our list, you don't want to buy a house there is a history of people slaughter human/animals/graveyard/mass graves...or just stuff like that. And nowadays people rather buy new build house than the old homes, save more dramaz and money.
Also, check cars in the neighborhood. If htey're in your price range, odds are, the house will be (for those just driving around).
Load More Replies...My advice is to take pictures while furniture is still in it so it gives people ideas of where they can put their stuff and what they can do with the place. It works I had my house sold in 2 days but then they didn't have enough money ey but it ended up selling the second week, then I moved to the other house and after a while we finally found the perfect home and we moved but didn't take pictures with the furniture or anything and it took almost a year and a half to sell. Just make it look nice but don't try to cover anything up.
I agree-inspection! Buying 2nd house now; luckily I worked at a school for 7 years 3 houses down so I know the neighborhood, did not need to check it out at night. It is also kinda ritzy with a strict and active HOA so not worried about neighborhood etiquette. The house is great and location perfect. Super excited!
Handymen, contractors and inspectors in the agent's rolodex will always have an agenda to aid the realtor. Always get your own agent but still be cautious. My agent's contractor said a collapsing ceiling with unsecured rafters above was just an optical illusion. Owners had removed a load bearing wall with no attempt to re-engineer or provide alternate support.
Trust your gut. Amount other problems, appliances worked just enough to turn on.