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Former Employee Confronts Their Workplace For Not Paying Them Their Last Paycheck, Receives An Angry Email
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Former Employee Confronts Their Workplace For Not Paying Them Their Last Paycheck, Receives An Angry Email

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When it comes to workplace disagreements, employees can often find themselves backed into a corner, with very little power in their hands. It can be extremely frustrating and the unfairness of it all can make your head spin. Knowing the law can help with that.

Redditor u/OneSpookyPotato shared what happened to them when they decided to quit their job a couple of weeks ago. The company they were working at suddenly decided to withhold their final paycheck by reversing the final direct debit deposit. The redditor shared the email they got from their superior, Karen, and also posted the response they sent over on the r/antiwork subreddit.

The former employee tackled all of the accusations their colleague threw at them and explained that they had a kidney infection to deal with, so their priorities were very different. Have a read through the emails below and let us know what you think of the entire situation, dear Pandas. Oh, and no spoilers just yet, but keep in mind that redditor OneSpookyPotato also posted an update to the story and it caught us by surprise.

I reached out to Eddy Ng, the Smith Professor of Equity & Inclusion at Queen’s University, for a comment about what values a great manager has that help separate them from the rest. “In general, there are two modes of leadership—transactional and transformational,” Eddy told Bored Panda that there are different approaches to leadership. You’ll find the full interview below.

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A former employee shared how their workplace tried to withhold their last paycheck

Image credits: OneSpookyPotato

They shared the aggressive email they got from their colleague named Karen

Here’s what they wrote back

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Image credits: OneSpookyPotato

The entire situation was unexpectedly resolved. Here’s what the original poster’s former colleague wrote back

Image credits: OneSpookyPotato

Eddy, from Queen’s University, was kind enough to explain the differences between transactional and transformational leadership. “Transactional leadership is based on exercising bureaucratic authority and legitimate power in the firm. In the case of the manager withholding pay (although illegal), that is definitely a transactional style of leadership, relying on rewards and punishments to influence behaviors,” he told Bored Panda, referring to the manner in which the superior behaved in the redditor’s story.

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On the other hand, transformational leaders embody the four values of idealized influence, inspirational motivation, intellectual stimulation, and individualized consideration. In short, managers who go for this type of leadership approach are more supportive of their colleagues. “In this regard, transformational leaders provide support and encouragement to employees. They tend to influence employee behaviors by positively motivating them. Good managers tend to practice a transformational style of leadership,” Eddy said.

According to the management expert, some ways to build solid relationships and trust with employees would be for managers to show genuine empathy and concern for them. Again, that’s more transformational style leadership in play here. “In this fashion, employees will be more likely to open up and share work and personal concerns with managers. Regularly conducting anonymous employee surveys, albeit more formal, can also help managers troubleshoot employee grievances.”

We believe that what truly turned the tables for OneSpookyPotato was their spot-on knowledge of the law. They threatened their former employer with legal action and mentioned that they’d be filing a complaint with the Ohio Department of Commerce. “Withholding an employee’s final paycheck is considered wage theft and is illegal,” the redditor wrote in their email to their former colleague, Karen.

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According to the US Department of Labor, it depends on the state you live in whether your employer does or does not have to provide you with your final paycheck immediately.

“Employers are not required by federal law to give former employees their final paycheck immediately. Some states, however, may require immediate payment. If the regular payday for the last pay period an employee worked has passed and the employee has not been paid, contact the Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Division or the state labor department,” the DoL explains. What’s more, the DoL has various mechanisms in place that help former employees recover back wages.

Specifically in Ohio, employers must issue the final paycheck on the first day of the month for wages that were earned in the first half of the prior month or on the 15th day of the month for wages that were earned in the second half of the prior month.

Ohio employers can’t withhold final paychecks unless authorized by law “or for uniforms, drug testing, or other tools,” Law info explains. What’s more, any deductions from the paycheck (if any) can’t make the employee’s wages fall below minimum wage.

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Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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I'm a visual editor at Bored Panda. I kickstart my day with a mug of coffee bigger than my head, ready to tackle Photoshop. I navigate through the digital jungle with finesse, fueled by bamboo breaks and caffeine kicks. When the workday winds down, you might catch me devouring bamboo snacks while binging on the latest TV show, gaming or I could be out in nature, soaking up the tranquility and communing with my inner panda.

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Mindaugas Balčiauskas

Mindaugas Balčiauskas

Author, BoredPanda staff

I'm a visual editor at Bored Panda. I kickstart my day with a mug of coffee bigger than my head, ready to tackle Photoshop. I navigate through the digital jungle with finesse, fueled by bamboo breaks and caffeine kicks. When the workday winds down, you might catch me devouring bamboo snacks while binging on the latest TV show, gaming or I could be out in nature, soaking up the tranquility and communing with my inner panda.

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Jihana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How fast they agreed on paying once lawyers are mentioned...

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Potato
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was generous to warn them about. This is a lawsuit she would have won in a heartbeat.

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Ellis Reed
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. I hope Karen constantly hires folks who quit a month after training until her business goes under. What a c u n t.

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Elsie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay no 2 week notice?? SO WHAT! that is not law it's a courtesy if you were to fire the employee would you say I'm sorry it's not working out please leave in 2 weeks! Yeah right they'd be out the door 2 minutes later most jobs are at will You have no right to not pay them for the work they have already done. No matter how immature or bitter you are

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP worked there for only three months. You don’t owe a full two weeks’ notice for such a short amount of time. However, I do agree that the shirts and keys should’ve been turned in ASAP—-especially the keys, so the business doesn’t have to rekey all the locks. Other than that, Karen was totally in the wrong and knew it, or she wouldn’t have changed her tune after the OP mentioned the Labor Board and lawyering up.

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jihana avatar
Jihana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How fast they agreed on paying once lawyers are mentioned...

mdr_1 avatar
Potato
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was generous to warn them about. This is a lawsuit she would have won in a heartbeat.

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Ellis Reed
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. I hope Karen constantly hires folks who quit a month after training until her business goes under. What a c u n t.

lovemrc avatar
Elsie
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay no 2 week notice?? SO WHAT! that is not law it's a courtesy if you were to fire the employee would you say I'm sorry it's not working out please leave in 2 weeks! Yeah right they'd be out the door 2 minutes later most jobs are at will You have no right to not pay them for the work they have already done. No matter how immature or bitter you are

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Kathryn Baylis
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP worked there for only three months. You don’t owe a full two weeks’ notice for such a short amount of time. However, I do agree that the shirts and keys should’ve been turned in ASAP—-especially the keys, so the business doesn’t have to rekey all the locks. Other than that, Karen was totally in the wrong and knew it, or she wouldn’t have changed her tune after the OP mentioned the Labor Board and lawyering up.

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