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“You Can’t Get Rich Here”: 35 People Reveal The Best And The Worst Thing About Their Countries
The phrase ‘there’s no place like home’ was probably made up by someone who wanted to feel better about where they came from. It’s not a secret that every country has its advantages and disadvantages, but since you can’t actually pick the place you’re born in, embracing everything about it is just a part of the process.
People from different places around the world joined this online thread to share the pros and cons of their homeland. From culture and food to politics, economy, and the quality of life, true experts share what makes their home so easy yet so incredibly difficult to love. And it’s a perfect opportunity to learn things about countries you would never find in tourist brochures.
Scroll down to find out the good, the bad, and the ugly about these countries in a list that could serve as a blatant guide to check before choosing a travel destination or a new place to live. And don’t forget to praise and expose your country in the comments!
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#1
Switzerland.
Con: high cost of living.
Pro: the flag is a big plus.
Donkeywheel 2 years ago (edited)
Not even a high cost of living because the wages are even higher. Life is two or three times more expensive than in France, Germany or Uk in absolute, but cheaper relatively. The legal minimum wage (purely indicative, there isn’t a single person who doesn’t earn more) is around 26 eur/usd per hour. That means the lowest wages at any company (cleaning or warehouse staff) are around 5000 eur/usd a month.
devotedtodreams 2 years ago
I live in Switzerland and think that high cost of living is a justified con. With everything getter ever more expensive, more and more Swiss people are struggling to pay their bills - particularly health insurance (which is obligatory) and taxes are quite high. My personal pro would be the dense network of public transportation.
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Zedrapazia 2 years ago
Sadly yes. I'm swiss, my fiance is Latino, my family was horrified
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Sarah Stalder 2 years ago
Took me longer than it probably should have to figure it out. Very punny.
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#2
United Kingdom.
Pro: Beautiful countryside that generally has public access.
Con: Run by a bunch of corrupt and useless tw*ts.
Winter 2 years ago
anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job" -Douglas Adams
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LokisLilButterknife 2 years ago
I wholeheartedly agree with this. There’s some absolutely brilliant historical sites and stunning views. However, Brexit is seeing a rise in nationalism.
Chewie Baron 2 years ago
Yeah. I never realised Stella Braverman was Enoch Powell re-incarnated.
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Perry Sologia 2 years ago
18th on the Corruption Perception Index, for those who have never lived in a really corrupt country
Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago (edited)
That's probably because our systems aren't especially corrupt, whereas our ruling party absolutely is. You won't get far bribing most British cops, but bribe a Tory and you're quids in.
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Jonathan MacFarlane 2 years ago
That's not just the UK, practically everywhere is run by a bunch of asholes.
Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago (edited)
Well, it is and it isn't. It's sort of one country that's composed of four countries, at least one and possibly three of which aren't actually countries. The outlier is Northern Ireland, by the way, which is definitely a country by any metric.
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#3
Australia.
Pro: No guns and free healthcare.
Cons: everything wants to kill you and the sun gives you cancer.
Stary_cat 2 years ago (edited)
Australia: pros - the animals are so cool, and seeing a kangaroo on my driveway is cool. Cons - it takes a bit to learn what is not going to kill you and the biggest spiders are the least dangerous… most of the time
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censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Pro: well-run. Con: unless you are first nations australian and can't even get a VOICE.
Peter Vincent 2 years ago (edited)
First nations people have the same voice as all other Australians. Just don't have a constitutionally enshrined special lobby group that no-one else does. If the referendum was just about constitutional recognition, it would have easily passed. The 'Voice' can still be legislated into law.
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Australia has so many pros- rich and beautiful First Nations culture, amazing scenery, diverse landscapes, beautiful beaches, great weather, chilled lifestyle, great food, multicultural population, healthcare, good coffee….Cons: First Nations people do not get the respect they deserve, selfish drivers, the outback can kill the unprepared, long distances between things, rip tides, and bitey stingy things. Most of these things can be overcome with a little education and common sense.
David A Paterson 2 years ago
It takes as long to get to Australia as it does to fly to the Moon.
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Colt Seavers 2 years ago
Today I learned that there has been no spider related death in Australia since 1979 https://australian.museum/learn/animals/spiders/spider-facts/
ROSESARERED 2 years ago
More people in Japan have been killed by spiders, than in Australia in the last 40 years. Redbacks have hitch-hikied a ride to Japan in shopping containers.. people see a black spider with a red lightning bolt, and touch it. Fun fact about redback venom...you have to do gentle exercises, walking, to work it out of your system...but if ever bitten, get to the hospital regardless
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David A Paterson 2 years ago
The flies are probably worse than all other Australian animals combined. But only in Alice Springs and other desert areas. They've mostly been controlled now that we've introduced dung beetles.
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Id row 2 years ago
Pro: Don't need to waste money on military. They just send a box of wildlife to their enemies.
David A Paterson 2 years ago
Beware the drop bears, hoop snakes and bunyips.
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#4
Ukraine.
Pro: great food.
Con: located close to Russia.
cerinamroth 2 years ago
Still doesn't make the Russian invasion right, though.
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Spanish-Ukrainian Cat 2 years ago
Ukrainian here. Can confirm, pelmeni and borsch are amazing. Though we are run by a gullible ex-clown
#5
Norway.
Pro: incredibly beautiful and clean nature.
Con: the weather is often so bad you need to stay indoors.
VioletHunter 2 years ago (edited)
The real con is the months of basically complete darkness imo. That's so much worse than bad weather.
Sue User 2 years ago
I can take the long winter night ( when in netherlands). There is lighting. ( So many beautiful lamps, lights ) Its the long days. S**t the eff up birds. Its 3:45 am and i need more sleep. Summer meant blindfolds and earplugs.
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Sergio Bicerra 2 years ago
Norway's gonna be homing a lot of introverts after this. Save me a room, please.
Francisco Javier Bonillo Ponce 2 years ago
Come to Almería (Spain) and enjoy of the sun even night
#6
Finland.
Pro: people avoid you.
Con: that's kinda lonely.
Emma Goransdottir 2 years ago
I really like Finnish people. Everyone I've worked with/befriended is straightforward in their communication and has a dark sense of humor 😄. Also Sisu!
3003st 2 years ago
Pro: moomins, sauna, nature, nature everywhere, salmiakki, you can drink water from every sink, heesburger, more nature, LONKERO Con: cold
My “in my head” Voice 2 years ago
I lived for a long time in the UP of Michigan. Hancock has a sister city in Finland. Finlanders are people of few words but can be incredibly generous and caring.
In Vino Veritas 2 years ago
Good luck with that. Our language is very difficult to learn.
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Canada.
Pro: free healthcare.
Con: it takes so long to get that you might die waiting for it.
Luis Hernandez Dauajare 2 years ago (edited)
Same in Mexico. There is free healthcare, doctors are well trained and the attention is good, but it is so understaffed, bureaucracy-ridden and slow that most who can afford it just go for private care.
The Original Bruno 2 years ago
For all the BP about free healthcare in Canada, it turns out that Canada has a two-tier healthcare system: Top-notch, old-fashioned-American-style employer-paid for 30% or self-paid healthcare, with a terrible but free government healthcare fallback for the other 70%. Federal government healthcare excludes prescriptions, mental healthcare unless from a medical doctor, physical therapy except following hospitalization, occupational therapy, extended care or dental. Provincial governments may include some of these.
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Miss Frankfurter 2 years ago (edited)
It’s not free. It’s funded with our taxes. Too little funding and completely mismanaged by a bunch of stupid, corrupt and completely don’t give a $h!+ if you die politicians. Access to it is next to impossible and when you do the wait for tests to be done is, unfortunately, not laughable because it’s not funny. The lack of safety of you are in hospital because the nurse patient ratio has run us ragged and we can’t be 10 places at once. But, no one is asking us, the healthcare professionals, how to fix it so it delivers what it promises. I ask you, who knows more about this? The healthcare/medical professionals, or politicians? *buzzer* Wrong answer! It’s politicians. They know everything. 🥴🤢🤮 I need to go to the ER! What do you mean the one nearest me is closed and I have to drive 100 miles to the next nearest one! This is not an exaggeration. It happens all the time if you live in small town Ontario.
Mario Strada 2 years ago
For the record, my wife, here in the USA, needed several minor outpatient surgeries. Each specialist had a 6 months long wait. Surgeries more or less the same. When she goes to the E.R. often I go pick her back up 12 or 15 hours back because no one has helped her and by then she got better on her own. But we get to pay through the nose for it.
David A Paterson 2 years ago (edited)
Australia is starting to go the same way, unfortunately. Four years for a free hip operation is common.
Mark Kelly 2 years ago
A couple weeks ago here in Canada I wanted to see a doctor (non emergency) and phoned a clinic and an hour later they called back and told me to come in and had to wait less than 10 mins when there.
Mario Strada 2 years ago
Ok, half my family is Canadian. They live in pretty big cities and they never have to wait. I hear it's harder in the rural areas, but that's true here in the USA as well. Doctors prefer to live in Vancouver B.C. than Bumfu*k Ontario. Can't really blame them until they incentivize them.
keyboardtek 2 years ago
Meanwhile in the USA while suffering from my suffocating breathing attack, the earliest appointment with the cardiologist was three weeks away. Glad the cause was not my heart.
Disgruntled Pelican 2 years ago
I'd rather wait for a doctor than have to pay $700 AFTER INSURANCE for a friggin ultrasound.
#8
Scotland.
Pro - it's pretty stunning.
Con - The weather is s**t.
Donkey boi 2 years ago
Scotland: Pros - One of the most beautiful places to explore. Food fit for the climate. Con - Midges!
Mrs. Ginger McSarcasm 2 years ago
I read midgets the first time and got super confused. Lol
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I just work here 2 years ago
Me too! (the burst into flames part). Most no-one else gets it. I think it's my Irish blood. Can't stand being in the sun and alway say I feel like I'm going to burst into flames. My sisters are the same.
Load More Replies... LokisLilButterknife 2 years ago
I have to agree. There are so many brilliant historical site to visit and stunning landscapes to explore. Explore the cultural sites in cities like Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, etc.Visit the highlands by pack accordingly for weather and listen to the locals. If you are fascinated by history, myth, and the great outdoors I highly recommend visiting Shetland and Orkney and making your way up to Norway if you have time. Scotland will always hold a special place in my heart and I can’t wait to visit next year to see family and friends- it has been way too long. 🏴🏔️
CORGI QUEEN 2 years ago
my mom and dad just got back from scotland (I have a rainbow gonk and a stuffed highland coo) They say that it would be wonderful weather while in the train but then as soon as they get off the train, it starts raining.
Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago
I don't know where your folks are from, but in Scotland the trains tend to have roofs.
Load More Replies... Emma Goransdottir 2 years ago
I can stand the bad weather. Scotland is so beautiful and has many exciting historical places to visit🙂💞
Stygtand 2 years ago
Con: when a scotch person talks to you. You are not really sure if they are friendly or want to beat you up. ;-)
Sebastián Rodríguez 2 years ago
Con: even if you speak English fluently, you won't understand what half of the people there are saying.
#9
UK Pro: We're like a USA lite. Some of the good parts of the US without the guns and religion.
Con: We're like a USA lite.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
still beats 1000% higher school shootings and 1000 000% higher medical costs.
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TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
Yeah - no. I am from the US and lived in the UK for a while. There is a state religion and they are chill about it. That is NOT the same as the predatory evangelicals here. The real problem for me was if something cost $1 here it cost 1 pound there so it didn't feel like I was paying $1.75 (the exchange rate at the time).
Beth H 2 years ago
I am from USA and also lived in England for a couple years. The religion thing was so not an issue. Definitely not like out bible thumpers here.
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Snorky The Pig 2 years ago
Definitely. I love the south but I'm too scared to go there on my own because of the guns and religion.
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Jill Rhodry 2 years ago (edited)
After this past weekend in Aus (the Voice defeated and Neo-nazis in Melbourne allowed to salute and cowardly wear full face masks) I'm afraid that we've gone too far over and are giving you guys are run for your money on being US lite. (also without guns and religion)
Gary 2 years ago
Hum I would have to say no on this one. Perhaps we have some of the habits of fast food, but beyond that our similarities end there. We British universally hate our country, for a start. lol.
Rebecca Broscombe-Adams 2 years ago
No we don't. How ridiculous. I hate the tossers who are running it but I bloody love the country . Or maybe you're just not from Yorkshire.
Load More Replies... Snorky The Pig 2 years ago
Still not as much as America...they literally want trump back, it's beyond absurd.
Load More Replies... cerinamroth 2 years ago
I high-tailed it out of there personally but it does have fascinating history and absolutely beautiful landscapes. I do like visiting my siblings when I go back, but I am always happy to leave the country as well!
Sue User 2 years ago
Thought about moving back, be nice to be near family. Then Brexit and Boris sealed the "NOPE".
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Victoria Lougheed 2 years ago
Same goes for Canada. We are USA North. No guns, same stupid red-necked ideologies in too much of the population.
#10
México. Tacos and narcos.
Luis Hernandez Dauajare 2 years ago
Short for "narcotraficante". Drug lords
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NapQueen 2 years ago
I sooo want to visit Mexico, but I can't really handle spicy food - is there another delicacy that Mexico could offer that isn't so hot??
J 2 years ago (edited)
You can eat a lot of things not spicy at all. The food depends very much on the places you want to go, but in most Mexican food almost all spiciness came from salsas, which are added by the eater at the table. Most tortilla or bread based dishes are not spicy by themselves. Depending of where you go, try “enchiladas suizas”, which is a variety of enchiladas with spiceless (but flavorful) tomato or tomatillo salsa, closer to an Italian sauce; try “chiles en nogada” and “chiles rellenos”, that are poblano peppers charred and totally spiceless, similar to bell peppers, stuffed with sweet ground meat or chesee. And try every taco, flauta, memela, gordita, quesadilla, sope, garnacha, huarache and whatever other dish made with corn masa harina. All of them are great, and spice is not forced on. If you feel very adventurous, moles, witch is a paste made of peppers, veggies, fruits, cocoa, nuts and oils, are very peculiar and divisive. Not all are spicy, but are a very unique thing.
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christopher geoghegan 3 months ago
love Mexico, but not the crime, my family is married to beautiful mexican women!
#11
I'm Venezuelan.
A pro is that our food is delicious, a con is that for like five years we had none of it.
Capybara With a Cat 2 years ago
Venezuela is one of the most beautiful countries on the world, sad what's goin on there
Craig Reynolds 2 years ago
Washington D.C. is what's going on there. They (Washington) sanctioned the state-run oil company and placed a trade embargo against it, denying it US Dollars. It's what our corrupt and power-hungry government does to any country, even allies, that do not do as they are told.
Load More Replies... Sergio Bicerra 2 years ago
When I was about 12 I thought where would I go if things in my country went down, and my first thought was Venezuela, nice people, my godfather lived there, great relationships between Peruvians and Venezuelans, good oportunities... and now because of the greed of the last governments they drove more than half of their population to starve and migrate. Jódanse Chavez y Maduro!
Arend Kant 1 year ago
Peru is going down. Thanks to the "nice people". Still want to go to Venezuela?
Load More Replies... christopher geoghegan 3 months ago
Narco, criminal state, communist, facist government, criminal gov't, export trash to the USA!
Jane Hower 2 years ago
Due to Socialism/Communism which is not pushing it's way into the US. Do stock up on food or be sorry.
Mioux Mioux 2 years ago
Venezuelans should all be driving diamond cars and laughing at how poor the Saudis are.
Corrsfan 2 years ago
This description sounds alot like one big capitalist country I know...
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Armenia.
Pro: We still exist.
Con: Unsure for how much longer though since 3 neighbors repeatedly genocide/ethnicically cleanse/invade us.
David A Paterson 2 years ago
Looking up the web for civil war in Armenia. It started in about 200 BC. The first Nagorno-Karabakh war started in 1988.
Lord of the laserprinter. 2 years ago
Pro…. Really pro and I can’t state this fact enough. Ararat Brandy
Verena Abt 2 years ago
This comment makes me sad. Glad to hear you still exist. Everyone on this planet has a right to exist. I wish we could all try to get on!
PlatinumThe8-BitCat 2 years ago
I had to look up this country because I had no idea it even existed
Donkeywheel 2 years ago
A war occurred there literally days ago. Where are you from?
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christopher geoghegan 3 months ago
Just made peace with one of it neighbors, love the amenians!
Paz Arboleda 2 years ago
And most of the expats live in Pasadena, Burbank, Glendale or Fresno Ca.
Joy Duggins 2 years ago
Funny how the Kardashians don't give a c**p and they are from there...
#13
Pro: if you're rich it's one of the best places in the world.
Con: you can't get rich here.
Italy
Jodie Johnson 2 years ago
Probably it is you can't get rich if you're honest.
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Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa) 2 years ago
"Best place it the world, can't get rich there"? Sounds like a socialist utopia. Sign me up.
GettingCereal 2 years ago
Make a pizza with fresh tomatoes and mushrooms, bacon and egg. Breakfast pizza, problem solved.
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Mario Strada 2 years ago
Nepotism, bureaucracy, taxes, pervasive mentality that whatever you want to do is probably not worth it. Assuming that business idea is never going to work.
Load More Replies... christopher geoghegan 3 months ago
communists, looking for cheap labor from the third world, the men are pervert, want s*x with little boy from the gypies!
#14
USA.
Pro: I have the freedom to choose the profession I love.
Con: I have to practice active shooter drills with my sweet kindergarten students.
Bonus!! Pro: my pay is funded by the government.
Con: My pay has me constantly worried about having enough money for my bills.
VioletHunter 2 years ago
That's a weird choice of pro. Even most people living in dictatorships and autocracies have the freedom to choose a profession they love. And certainly everyone in a democracy does.
Madster 2 years ago
I think they were trying to think of something that was free in the land of the free and got stuck.
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censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Even though I usually say negative things about the states: Pro: amazing achievements in sciences e.g. NASA; amazing scenery e.g. Grand Canyon; amazing cities e.g. NY; Great cultural impact in movies and music. Cons: Republicans and MAGAs and their consequences.
LokisLilButterknife 2 years ago
Why the heck are you getting downvoted? God, this site is so damned toxic.
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MaximumKarmaSaint 2 years ago
To be honest that con is too well known, we need to talk about something else with y'all sometimes!
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Kristiina 2 years ago
There is no point to incarcerate all the law breakers. The better way is to rehabilitate and educate people so that they have the means to change.
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Nice Beast Ludo 2 years ago
Pro- let me get back to you on that Cons - that's a long list. Let me get back to you on that as well. In a nutshell: Pro- blue states/con- red states. Guess which one I'm trapped in
Sergio Bicerra 2 years ago
As a pro I would say (just because is not a thing in my country) Thrift Stores! Cons: too many crazies.
Ginger Grumpybunny 2 years ago
Which country are you from? (I'm in Scotland, where we don't have huge supermarket-sized thrift stores like in the USA, but we have many small charity shops where I buy most of my clothes and a lot of other stuff.) I've never been to the US but if I do in the future I definitely want to check out the thrift stores, especially the Goodwill Outlet stores I've heard of which get sent leftovers from other Goodwill stores which are then sold very cheaply by weight. I'm in a group which refers to these as "the bins" since the stuff is sold from big plastic containers which are wheeled out for customers to rummage through. I was confused at first because "bins" in my country normally means containers for trash disposal.
Load More Replies... JessieJ&LilyLovebug 2 years ago
You might have the freedom, but you probably can't afford it...or will be paying on your student loans the rest of your life. I started on the path to the career I wanted, but it would cost about $100,000, so I settled for good benefits and a short commute...
Edward Loopyderm 2 years ago
Pro - lots of stuff is fairly cheap. Con - people still can't afford it because their bosses hoard the money and pay them a pittance, so they have to beg customers for money to eat.
LargeMarge 2 years ago
Pros: It depends because the US is vast. Cons: It depends because the US is vast.
#15
Egypt.
Pros: it has an airport.
Cons: I don't have money to get on a plane in that airport to get the hell out.
Severus S 2 years ago
Con -women are not safe here, many women I know have been groped and harassed, and a lot of men wont talk to you if you are with a man they will ask your husband/boyfriend instead, very agressive salesmen in shops, friend was puled into a shop and they locked the door telling her to buy something, she had to scream to be let out.
MaximumKarmaSaint 2 years ago
At this point I'm afraid of asking you for a pro...
Load More Replies... Emma Goransdottir 2 years ago
I always wanted to visit Egypt because im interested in history. But after so many people here on BP told horrible stories about their visit I really hesitate 😐
TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
Yeah - I'm a woman and not going to veil, so I don't go to places where I am expected too. I don't believe religious people who make outsiders wear their religious garb. A hijab is not a costume. If I wore it that's all it would be.
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Kat Lyle 2 years ago
Pros -- steep history and amazing architecture. Con - women can't travel there alone.
María Hermida 2 years ago (edited)
If I can't travel alone, I won't go even if I could travel with a male partner or friends. I won't spend a single Euro in a country where I'm considered inferior. (Edit: spelling)
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Joshua Ortiz 2 years ago
Pro: I mean y'all probably have like the coolest ancient history. Or at the very least it's tied with Rome and Greece.
Andreas Forsberg 2 years ago
I visited Egypt once, in 2007, and as a male travelling with my brother, it was okay, even though we were massively bothered by shop owners, everywhere. After the Egyptian POLICE killed two Israeli TOURISTS, I’m not setting my foot in that country anymore. Not before they have a completely different, non-Islamic government.
Spanish-Ukrainian Cat 2 years ago
I've been to Egypt like five times, every time to the same city. (Hurghada)
#16
South Africa.
Pros: Amazing climate, amazing food, amazing people, incredible landscapes and natural beauty, affordable cost of living compared to the rest of the world, robust private sector.
Cons: Horrific corruption, poverty is rife, horrendous public service delivery, rolling blackouts, inflation, stagnant economic growth.
NapQueen 2 years ago
A country that is rife with history as well....really want to go someday to learn more about their culture.
Caro Caro 2 years ago
You should go. It is so beautiful and the people are really nice. I have been only twice but still feel the need to see more more more.
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Red Reilly 2 years ago
I worked in Cape Town for two weeks and WOW, it is such a strange place. Was chatting to this girl who did all this amazing charity work yet was also HUGELY racist and homophobic. It was weird.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
not surprising at all if you know the history. We're very similar to the "deep south" in USA, who also have charities.
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VioletHunter 2 years ago
It's ironic and sad how that country seems to go down the drain step by step. I think everyone thought things would get better, not worse after the end of apartheid.
censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Things are better if you aren't white. You can go to formerly white-only schools. You are not under military curfew. You can marry whomever you want. You can start and own a business. You can get rich. It's mostly people who benefited from apartheid who complain these days; or those who are not currently benefiting from the corruption, shall we say.
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detective miller's hat 2 years ago
My cousin lives there and her stories make it sound like the frigging wild west.
Margaret Shannon 2 years ago
If “poverty is rife” and you have “inflation” and “stagnant economic growth” you do NOT have an “affordable cost of living.”
#17
Brazil.
Pro: it's a beautiful country.
CON: we have 9000 bank robberies or street-armed robberies every day.
Red Reilly 2 years ago
Two of my Brazilian friends were comparing bullet wounds they have and laughing about it. I'm just standing there going, wha.. that's terrible! and they were like, ahhh it's Brazil.
Anita Saragusa 2 years ago
I'm Brazilian myself and I think that's crazy. You either lied or your friends are from Rio.
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Carlos Moreno 2 years ago
First day in Rio as a tourist. I get to witness 3 robberies outside my hotel and 1 police chase. Otherwise the country is amazing.
Becky Samuel 2 years ago
They also have one of the highest rates of cosmetic surgery for women in the world because of the ridiculous pressure to attain unnatural beauty standards. If a woman wants to get ahead in her job, she has to go through surgeries just to look 'presentable'. It's sick.
Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My! 2 years ago
They aren't very good atheists, then. That's sort of the most important thing.
Load More Replies... Dr Robert Neville 2 years ago
I still remember the guys who tried to hijack and rob Pele until they realised who he was, backed up, apologised and left.
#18
The Netherlands Too many pros so ill name a rather unknown one Pro: we have specialized tools for everything. Need a tool to cut out the seeds of an appel, here you go appelseedscutter. Want to get every little piece out of ketchup or appel sauce put of your bottle, here a flessenlikker. Con: house crisis, cost of living.
Diolla 2 years ago
OP forgot the kaasschaaf, a tool to slice cheese. Very important!!!! Osthyvel_2...6d71e9.jpg 
Tamra 2 years ago
A common thread I'm seeing in many of these is the untenable, increasing cost of living and government corruption.
Temporary Dork 2 years ago
At least the Dutch government isn't very corrupt. And they hide it well!
Load More Replies... Sue User 2 years ago
But in Netherlands ( or it was 20 years ago ), you have to prove you can afford the place. Rent can be no more than a certain percentage of your income.
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pfeils wife 2 years ago
I have been very curious about the Netherlands. Yeah, I could google all about it, but I'd rather hear from my fellow Pandas that have or currently live there! What are the actual CONS of living n the Netherlands? Which areas are best? Worse? Etc.
Diolla 2 years ago (edited)
As for areas, Avoid the big cities or even Holland. A bit further away, life is much nicer (greener, less crowded, less crime, nicer housing) and cheaper too. Like in Friesland, Drenthe or Brabant. I live in Groningen (the city) myself and it's great.
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Roland Nijveld 2 years ago
Too many pro's, indeed. Main con for me is that its so ridiculously expensive compared to counties around us. Groceries, fuel but also traffic tickets are one of the highest in Europe
#19
India.
Pro: amazing food & festivals.
Con: religious tension, overpopulation & corrupt government.
silowew628@picvw.com 2 years ago
Terrible pollution, terrible air quality, and a lot of poor sanitation.
Kookamunga 2 years ago
Drinking and bathing in the Ganges while a body floats by.
Load More Replies... censorshipsucks 2 years ago
Just to balance the negativity: amazing culture and ancient history. One of the oldest civilisations on earth.
Mental Liberals 2 years ago
Murdering all your women After they're raped - wonderful "religion" and culture! Keep it! Send me the food...
#20
Germany.
con: we had one of, if not THE world's most infamous leader in history represent our country and it still haunts us to this day. Our education system is on par with American dumpsterfire and our current military would get soloed by our local gym.
pro: we got some hella good non-alcoholic drinks here, tho.
Any 2 years ago
pro: Free healthcare, you can freely choose what you want to do with your life, no guns
Hans Georg 2 years ago
We have guns, but we have better laws and less psychological problem cases due to better health care.
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cerinamroth 2 years ago
The infamous leader was Austrian but yes, Nazism does haunt Germany to this day. However, far-right sentiment is on the rise globally and at least Germany is more aware of its dangers. I feel safer as a Jew here than I have in other countries.
Christof Irran 2 years ago
"Thanks, Germany for owning our Hitler. And thanks, Germany for letting us own your Beethoven." - Austria.
Gavin Johnson 2 years ago
The whole infamous leader thing is only an issue if you make it one. I recommend visiting Germany, it’s a friendly and beautiful place.
TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
The only con there is everyone wants to practice English, so it can be hard to practice German lol.
Load More Replies... TheAmericanAmerican 2 years ago
Meh I call BS on the education critique. I've met hundreds of Germans and the majority are WAAAY more educated than the average American. I mean, sure, if you are only talking about Brandenburgers then fine. I've met too many AfDers and Reichburgers in Brandenburg, but they a small minority.
Surenu 2 years ago
Well, we USED to have a pretty solid education system, but it's falling apart for a couple of reasons, all of which are tied to money.
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Bored Retsuko 2 years ago
The con wouldn't be as bad if not for the currently alarming amount of people who seem to want to go back to that dark era.
Roman Hans 2 years ago
Germans have a great attitude, too. No body shaming, no matter what somebody looks like. Germans are empathetic & understand that could easily be them.
Me, Myself, and I 2 years ago
Tourist here. We learned every town had its own wine and beer. Drink local!
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Pros: Beautiful beaches and views, great weather, hospitable people.
Cons: Corruption, exploitation of the marginalized members of the society, nepotism, bad infrastructure, low pay, and the culture of placing celebrities and politicians at the pedestal of our society.
Welcome to the Philippines.
cerinamroth 2 years ago
I'm married to a Filipino and have visited many times. Pros: Beautiful scenery, incredible biodiversity, very hospitable people, great food, family-friendly, cheap pampering in the form of massages and manicures, etc. Cons: Poverty, celebrity worship/consumerism, pollution and (for me personally) the humidity!
David A Paterson 2 years ago
Hospitable people - except when they're kidnapping you? No water comes out of the taps in Manila.
Randy Capistrano 1 year ago
I love my country so much that I refuse to leave (translation: i'm too poor to leave)
Melissa Powell 2 years ago
I have 2 sons. Both adopted. They both have contact with birth families. My youngest 48 years is Filipino. Just found that out.
Brainmas 2 years ago
One thing I have never understood, why does the country start with Ph, but the people with F?
[A]nikin 2 years ago
Cause it's was originally name "Islas Filipinas" to "Filipinas" during the Spanish colonization but it changes to english term "Philippine Islands" to "Philippines" during USA colonization
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Spain.
Pros: almost everything: weather, food, open minded society, relatively affordable, free healthcare…
Cons: Our people always thinking that life is better anywhere else.
Mat O'Dowd 2 years ago
Sounds like a great place, let the moaners go! PS: I enjoy going to Spain, specially in winter when the weather is grey and gloomy in France.
María Hermida 2 years ago
Spain is bigger than Andalucia and Valencia! The weather is also grey and gloomy in winter in the north of Spain.
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OdetteB 2 years ago
I lived in Spain for several years and not a day goes by when I don't wish that I was still there..
Sans Serif (Sans) 2 years ago
Same sentiment, OdetteB! Lived in an old farmhouse in Alcala de Henares for six years -- most memorable years of my life. Only returned to the states as I ran out of money. Thought I'd accrue more and return - never happened. That was 40 years ago but "not a day goes by when I don't" miss the people, food and lifestyle. I'd pay small fortune for some Cochinillo Asado from the caves in Plaza Mayor...
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Lemaire 2 years ago
My wife and kids are Spanish . I am planning on moving there in 2 years. Not sure the best way to do it.
Notme 2 years ago (edited)
I’ll tell you a few, as someone who lived there for 32 years: - Ridiculously high unemployment - Ridiculously low wages - Workers’ rights are really s**t - Most people only care about themselves and their families, which leads to nepotism being rife and little possibility of social mobility. - Tax evasion is considered normal. - Really high freelancer fees make entrepreneurship really hard unless you’re loaded to start with. - Cockroaches.
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LokisLilButterknife 2 years ago (edited)
Hah hah, if only we could sleep that long. When I used to live and work there ( I lived in a smaller city so my experience may be very different) there was definitely a siesta period from about 2:00 to 3:30 pm where we would go eat and get some work done. My students would actually go home for about an hour and then come back at 4:00 for additional classes. I actually really liked it and it was a great way to have an actual break built into my day.
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#23
Greece: Pros: * The weather is nice, except in the summer when the sun just hates your very existence and you roast alive even with the AC on full blast. * Nice beaches, in the right weather. * Kick*ss cuisine.
Cons: * Greeks have a reputation of hospitality but honestly, we are not a very nice people. Sexist, closed-minded, always out to exploit others for gain. * Greeks naturally just hate each other over the shi*tiest things. We're talking actively, maliciously wishing misery upon one another, especially the ones we view as in any way successful or 'different'. * Anyone in the tourism industry is an exploitative shark, the islands are no longer places where people actually live, they are just glorified resorts for the rich.
Joe Russo 2 years ago (edited)
I teach high school in Greece, and much of the negatives listed are changing each year. Every year (for the past 16 years) I've seen the kids get more open-minded, more aware of equality and then more caring about equality (gender and lgbtqia+, but...not so much with religion). More aware of and speaking out against bullying. The first year I taught "Of Mice and Men" not a single kid noticed the sexism. Taught it two years ago, and not only did they all immediately grasp the sexism, they also all noticed the rather homoerotic descriptions of the character Slim... :)
Bored Retsuko 2 years ago
Mediterranean food in general has lots of good things.
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iseefractals 2 years ago
That two faced thing, isn't isolated to Greek's. That's just human nature. Not too long ago, it was something that was usually kept fairly contained. Private venting to those you're close to. But over the past decade or so? Everyone puts that pettiness, loud and proud on display for all the world to see. The sad part is, that even as they do it, they still can't admit, or even recognize what they're doing.
Roman Hans 2 years ago
"the islands are no longer places where people actually live, they are just glorified resorts for the rich." The fourth-largest island in Hawaii -- Lanai -- is 98% owned by billlionaire Larry Ellison of Oracle. He still lets us poor people visit, as long as we fork over the cash he needs.
James016 2 years ago (edited)
All the unfinished properties there so you guys don't pay taxes on them. Source is my old Greek colleagues.
François Bouzigues 2 years ago
when the loophole is so blatent you just adapt
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Leila Orozco Francis 2 years ago
I worked for a Greek for 5 years. Sweetest man on the planet until you pissed him off and then he was done with you. No forgiveness. To this day, if I run into him, I get a big hug and kiss on the cheek. His cooking is the reason why I love Greek food.
#24
China.
Pro: culinary peak of the world, I'm very objective.
Con: we kinda live under the facade of a monarchy in the name of socialism.
VioletHunter 2 years ago
It's neither a monarchy nor a classical dictatorship. I think "autocratic one party state" probably is the closest fitting descriptor. It just doesn't sound as catchy.
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TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
I laugh every time someone talks about China being a socialist or communist country. Chinese culture makes it impossible. There are so many perks for certain people working in the government. The culture of gifts looks like bribing to American eyes (not that it's your problem). Women are nothing close to equal and people are killed for having an opinion. That is not the community taking care of itself.
Beryl Beck 2 years ago
Cons: coronavirus, sars, wet markets, state sponsored violence, genocide, literally fighting with every neighbors, illegitimate maritime claims, bully tactics, support for other autocratic regimes Also, culinary peak of the world? What are you on..
iseefractals 2 years ago
China DESCRIBES ITSELF as a "the peoples democratic dictatorship" It's a communist country, helmed by a dictator who uses some vague notion of tradition to make it all more palatable to outsiders. A dictator that had the massive balls to talk himself up about "lifting" hundreds of millions of people out of poverty....because they crossed that TWO DOLLAR PER DAY threshold. Censorship, information control, human rights violations as a rule, every flavor of slavery you can think of....all while making their extra special "economic zones" that allow those that already have a lot, to enjoy the fruits of capitalism, while the rest of the county...exists, technically. But the gall of anyone to presume to nominate China, home to the dog meat festival, in which dogs are hung upside down, and skinned alive, as the culinary peak of the world, is just flat out insane.
David 2 years ago
Definitely many types of good food. Your government treats you like s**t to keep you in line. I still remember a tour bus guide in China in the 80s repeatedly trying to convince us that China was becoming democratic. His 'proof' was things like, "Many farmers are allowed to won their own tractors". It was a couple of years before the Tiananmen Square incident.
keyboardtek 2 years ago
Nothing socialist about China at all. The government does not provide much of any programs to care for its population. To get anything done one has to bribe the person in charge. Most government services are greased by bribes. The communist government's function is to suppress criticism, rebellion, and violence and to suck the wealth out of its people.
Craig Reynolds 2 years ago
Pro: You can walk the streets at 2 a.m. and not get shot or robbed. Pro: Excellent and cheap public transit. Pro: Public transport is clean and efficient. Pro: Inexpensive food. Pro: Inexpensive healthcare and accessible.
#25
France.
Pro: THE food, landscape.
Cons: Strikes, and for foreigners, poor level of English (and others languages)
TheAmericanAmerican 2 years ago
I'd consider the strikes a huge pro. You keep your government and their capitalist overlords somewhat afraid!
Irene VU 2 years ago
It’s the sheer number of strikes that ALSO affect the metro and bus lines. If you get out of work and there’s a strike, you’re going to have to walk an extra few blocks to get transportation. Also, the shut down neighborhood businesses because huge thrown rocks, overturned cars, and fires are 100% a thing.
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Isabella 2 years ago
I hate and in the same time, I love their strikes! I like how they are fighting for their rights.
Roman Hans 2 years ago
I have such admiration for the strikers. It's ridiculous that workers in NO other countries unite to say, "We'll work, but we also want time to LIVE!"
Load More Replies... François Bouzigues 2 years ago
As a french, i upvote the pros. And in the cons, i´d say the country is nowhere as clean and safe as it should be at least in Paris.
mandy the capibara 2 years ago
Additional pro; the TGV's are great! mega-con: toilet paper in every tiny bit of nature.
Load More Replies... Mat O'Dowd 2 years ago
That's not to bad compared to other "cons". Pro-tip, "Con(s)" is a rude word in French, it is the "c*nt" word!
Mell 2 years ago
When in France as a Dutchie, I always do my best to speak French (learned it in school) and sometimes the natives apreciate it and try their best to communicate but sometimes they will flat out refuse to try to understand you and laugh in your face...
gerard julien 2 years ago
" poor level of English (and others languages)" like in America then ?? emoji-652e...293926.png 
gerard julien 2 years ago
" In addition to French, several regional languages are also spoken to varying degrees, such as Alsatian, a Germanic dialect (specifically Alemannic) (spoken by 1.44% of the national population); Basque, a language isolate; Breton, a Celtic language (spoken by 0.61%); Corsican, an Italo-Dalmatian language; and various other Gallo-Romance languages (Langues d'Oïl 1.25%, Occitan 1.33%). Some of these languages are also spoken in neighbouring countries, such as Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Italy or Spain."
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Jean Thompson 2 years ago
Don't beat yourself up about not speaking other languages well. Here in UK I'm sure we are much worse at speaking anything other than English!
#26
United Kingdom.
Pro: Universal healthcare, beautiful countryside, nothing that can kill you, good infrastructure, more cheeses than France, more beers than Germany, lush, no cockroaches, no snakes, almost no mosquitos, good education, religion in deep decline.
Cons: Cost of living, Pay rates, Non-income taxation (hidden taxation), Brexit, Conservatism, urban decline.
Sian Edwards 2 years ago
We have snakes. One species of which is venomous. It won't kill you but it will hurt for a while. Our education system has gone to s*it. We have cockroaches and plenty of mosquitoes (although our mozzies don't carry diseases - yet). Compared to the rest of Europe our infrastructure is dreadful and expensive. We may have universal healthcare, but the waiting lists are so long that people are dying before seeing specialists. Doctors and nurses and paramedics have been on multiple strikes.
James016 2 years ago
I'll add: privatised infrastructure. Water companies are now allowed by the government to dump raw, untreated sewage everywhere, they have spent more on dividends and bonuses on fixing leaks and upgrading the infrastructure and now they want permission to charge us more to do the f*****g job they are meant to be doing.
Andy Cran 2 years ago
only after we were all supposed to get a refund on our bills did they (the water bastards) decide they needed to fix everything and charge us for the pleasure
Load More Replies... cerinamroth 2 years ago
The UK might have more beers than Germany, but at least the quality of the beer in Germany is protected by the Reinheitsgebot. Unfortunately, Brexit morons have waged a war against regulation (without realising that "red tape" is often there to protect us!) ending up with rivers of s**t and coastal waters that make you sick if you swim in them. I'm saying this as a born Brit who moved to Germany 20 years ago.
Jill Rhodry 2 years ago
"nothing that can kill you...no cockroaches, no snakes, almost no mosquitos" - can't help but feel these are direct attacks on your Aussie cousins😉
VioletHunter 2 years ago
Good infrastructure? I hear you Brits moan about your trains all the time.
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago (edited)
I guess it's what you compare it to. Compared to Belgium? UK roads are way better. Compared to The Netherlands? They're not even close. No country is
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When I think about cheese, the Netherlands come to my mind. For more beer, it would be Belgium. But as a german I have to say, that we have the better beer.
Dan Holden 2 years ago
As a neutral 3rd party and lover of beer I feel the need to say that Germany and Belgium both make some of my favorite beers in the world. But saying that one makes the better beer is like comparing apples to oranges. The styles of beer are so different that it's not really a fair comparison. That said, if I could only drink beer from one of them, I'd probably choose German beer.
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Bosnia.
Pros: probably one of the best and most delicious food in Europe - ćevapi and burek unimaginable for anyone who didn't try them, even vegetables is for some reason much more appetising than in Great Brittain and Germany.
Cheap restaurants - for 15 -20 euros you can eat whatever and whereever you want
Coffe culture - everyday, even at work, there is bare minimum of one paid, sometimes two half-hour long pauses when people stop with everything and socialize in cafe.
Crime rate - although there is a lot of crime like corruption there is not much robbery and things like that and is safe in almost every city to walk alone in any time of day.
Hospitality - it is part of culture that everybody greet guests in their house with table full of food, some rakija - homemade brandy made from plum, pear, quince - we're experts in that, they teach you how to make rakija and show hospitality from childhood basicaly.
Free education and healt care - I can't stress this enough. There is no student loans, most universities are state owned universities and healt care is also free, even most medicament are free!
Cons:
Corruption: everything, and I mean everything is ruled by political connections, and because Bosnia is country of Bosnian muslims, Croatian catholtick and Serbian Orthodox christians (plenty of citizens don't consider Bosnia as their country, rather Serbia and Croatia) there is plenty of corruption and stealing of money.
National tensions: war from 90s is almost everyday topic, we are living in the past
Standard of living: salaries are pretty basic, if you have salary cca 2000-3000 euros you will literary live like an milionaire in USA, but if you are without political connections or expert in you area of work, you will find it extremly hard to find a job and unfortunately plenty of people are emigrating.
Mrs. Ginger McSarcasm 2 years ago
The hospitaility thing seems like a little much to me. But maybe there's less introverts there and more people who enjoy having company.
OneHappyPuppy 2 years ago
They are indeed the friendliest bunch of the ex-Yu countries. I know a lot of people from B&H and it's true
Load More Replies... Jake stenhouse 2 years ago
Mostar (from the pic) is one of the most beautiful towns I’ve ever been to
cerinamroth 2 years ago
I absolutely adored Bosnia when I visited. The food, the coffee, the history, the people, the scenery (including Mostar bridge shown in the photo)... I would love to go back!
iseefractals 2 years ago
There is no "free" university or health care. Ever. Anywhere. EVERYONE pays taxes, to fund those things, thereby subsidizing the cost. Nothing is "free", stop perpetuating this misleading BS as it confuses one notable place that still can't figure out how to make those things happen.
#28
Ireland
Pros: No guns, so a very safe place to live.
Cons: Totally unaffordable rent and near impossible to buy a house.
Emma S 2 years ago (edited)
Really? Many British people have at least one Irish parent or grandparent. Myself included. We love the Irish. The French on the other hand...
Load More Replies... Scott Rackley 2 years ago
Another Pro, I've been to your country. Very nice people, once you get out of the city. The people are golden.
Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago (edited)
Dublin? Sure. Belfast? Not so much. AF A PACTYA PENTS A THYZAND WORZ THAN WHY CANT AY PENT YU
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Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago
Hopefully, although the idiot Brexiters might have bollcksed this up for everybody...
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Chewie Baron 2 years ago
Another pro, they’re the only country who’s Patron Saint is celebrated worldwide!
Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago (edited)
Genuine interest: who might that be? Joyce? Wilde? Yeats? Behan? GBS? Please reply :)
Load More Replies... Randy Capistrano 1 year ago
"No guns, so a very safe place to live." Yeah, like a knife in the gut wouldn't kill you. Not pro gun but just saying. :D
#29
Pro : Anything, anywhere, any time. Food, alcohol, whatever.
Con : Way too much politics, casteism, division, racism, unsafe environment for girls, road rage.
Country : India
TheAmericanAmerican 2 years ago
Is it really THAT bad for women there??? I don't want to believe the horror stories I hear...
#30
Portugal.
Major pros: Great food and nice weather.
Major cons: Incompetent government and c**p economy.
And i was like WTF!! 2 years ago (edited)
And this comment, ladys and gents, represents what is wrong with our world - idiots are in charge of coutries, they are imploying unqualified personel and whole countries went to s**t recently
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iseefractals 2 years ago
Pro: decriminalized drugs, and addiction is treated as a health issue, instead of a crime.
MoMcB 2 years ago
Go. Went for the first time a couple of weeks ago, I'm in love.
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StPaul9 2 years ago
You don't swim in the warm Mediterranean but in the freezing Atlantic. Also, your siestas are longer than the ones in Spain.
CarloSalvador 10 months ago
Warmer, very salted sea water, much more polluted than the Atlantic and very very tiny waves.
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#31
Myanmar.
Cons: One of the poorest countries in the world ruled by a malicious military dictator who kills everyone who opposes him. Unending civil war (Edit: World's longest actually). Economy in the sh**ter. Basically, everything is much worse than almost every other country on earth.
Pros: We don't tend to live that long
Florencia Renedo 2 years ago
I was fortunate to visit Yangon a few years ago and loved it! Great food, friendly people, beautiful city. In the country there is a lot of biodiversity. Hopefully it will be safe soon to receive tourist again.
TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
You are also the only other country in the world besides the US that uses imperial measurements instead of metric.
#32
Colombia.
Pro: Great weather, biodiversity.
Con: violence, corruption.
Angela Castro 2 years ago
Give me a break. The violence is not nearly what it once was. And a lot about Colombia is actually very progressive compared to many places. Its beauty is unsurpassed, and places like Bogota are now at the forefront in terms of transit and planning.
Victor Gutierrez 2 years ago
My country, I’ll also add good food and really kind people for the pros, agree with the cons and I’ll also add the horrible traffic in the biggest cities, mainly Bogota
#33
For Canada, I would say this A pro : Peace of mind. I don't have to worry if I will be able to afford college for my kids, I did not worry about money when my kids need healthcare, I don't have to worry about health insurance if I'm unemployed, I don't have to worry about being financially ruined if I get injured in an accident and the OTHER driver was at fault and not insured, I can just enjoy life and even if I have minimum savings and both my kids want to be doctors, money will never get in the way of that. A con : Winter can be rough. It's cold, everything gets dirty because snow is only nice and white for some time before cars turn it to that brown slush, and taxes are steep. Almost 40% of my income goes right back in taxes and on top of that, we can easily pay 12-15% in sales taxes which is a lot.
Yili Lai 2 years ago
Ehhh Canadian here, I think OP might in the nice boomer generation, most gen xyz can't afford to live in the cities or go to university without owing half a mil student loans by the time you graduate
Miss Frankfurter 2 years ago (edited)
Not the boomer generation. Many of us are having to work until we die because seniors income doesn’t even reach up to the level considered to poverty. Unless you worked a job that provided a separate pension from that of the government. Even that leaves no guarantee you can keep your head above water. Once you turn 65 all of your healthcare needs are paid for by the government. Hooray!! No. If you need physiotherapy for anything you’ve got a very very very long wait because the government pays so little, hope you can afford to pay for it yourself. Our economy is hitting everyone. I don’t know what total utopia this person lives in, but it’s not Canada. But if it is, I don’t know how they managed to afford the deeply rose coloured glasses they’re wearing. I genuinely feel for younger generations who will never own a house, be able to afford to have the kids they won’t be able to afford to send to university, and who the he!! could afford to feed and clothe them anyway.
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Glenn Schroeder 2 years ago
Please don't take this as criticism of your country, or any other country, but those high taxes are what pay for the "free" stuff, like health care or university educations.
Nobody Knows 2 years ago
Pro: They will help you kill yourself. Con: if you're really sick you'll probably die.
Lily Braunekatze 2 years ago
PP can't even pass a security check to be allowed to sit in on secure briefings. You can't think that Mimi Trump is the answer for anything. All he does is rage farm.
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Kelly Hartle 2 years ago
American here. Con: I've heard that because you live next to the US, it's like living above a meth house.
Lucie Tomson 2 years ago
so true re: taxes and winter.....plus our current Prime Minister, who spends a lot of our money, is a spoiled boy - not good at all.
DetongLhamo 2 years ago
But you’ve got Trailer Park Boys and Letterkenny which are definitely Pros.
#34
Kazakhstan.
Pro: Best economy and tourism in Central Asia.
Con: Economy, tourism still s****y.
TotallyNOTaFox 2 years ago
Also the country in which Baikonur is located, a city best known for it's space launch side
#35
Netherlands - Pro: bureaucracy gets s**t done - Con: bureaucracy doesn't get s**t done It works really well when it works, it is really s**t when it doesn't work basically.
The Problem With Censorship Is ******* 2 years ago
"Ja, hij staat daar..."
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Jude Corrigan 2 years ago
I was thinking of the Astrix and Obelisk scene where they had to fill in a form and go window to window, is it like that?
#36
Malaysia.
Pros: Natural disasters doesn't occur frequently. Abundant natural resources.
Cons: Religious bigots ruining the country for everyone. Affirmative action for the majority.
#37
Belgium:
Pro: culture and food.
Con: the "goverment".
Capybara With a Cat 2 years ago
Pro: they invented chips. 🍟 Con: the US calls them ''french Fries'' anyway🍟
Sans Serif (Sans) 2 years ago
We also used to call them "Freedom Fries" so, go figure?
Load More Replies... Bored Templar 2 years ago
I always thought of Belgium as a massive office where people don't live and the only inhabitant was Jean Claude Van Damme
Ludwig Michiel 2 years ago
Which one of the 5 (or 6 or 7, I've lost count) governments do you mean 😀
Coffee loving panda 2 years ago
All of them, every money grabbing, pocketfilling, greedy to old to be a boomer f**k.
Load More Replies... David A Paterson 2 years ago
Belgium Pro: world's best beer and chocolate. Con: The cons. I've been conned twice in Belgium.
Roland Nijveld 2 years ago
Cons are definitely the architecture and infrastructure. I can literally feel when I cross the border
#38
Pro : Beautiful landscape Con : No other pros (Slovakia) EDIT: to be fair, in landscape we can count some cities and castles too, so more like, geography, and there is also low crime rate as far as i noticed
The Goo King 2 years ago
Really good food as well, if you are into solid stews, etc. Not so great if you are a vegetarian.
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Alvia Vseobecna 2 years ago
I am not so sure about the low crime rate..... leave your car out unattended for more than 10 days aaand it just might get stolen if its relatively new or pricey
Dutchman Callypso 2 years ago
Pro: Close to Czechia so you can go live there (I say that as a Czech living in a big city closest to the borders... many, many, many Slovaks live here😀 )
#39
Singapore.
Pros: Healthcare system where you pay based on your ability to pay with government subsidies, yet is very high quality, accessible and efficient. Very low crime rate. A lot of nice green architecture and increasing amounts of renewable energy. Very high home ownership rate of good quality public and private housing 80-90%. One of the worlds highest GDP per capita. Poor are allowed to rent apartments from the government for dirt cheap. Very good food. Cons: Very high cost of living that’s continuing to rise, increasing wealth inequality, increasingly harder to buy a home. The government keeps banning all the fun TV shows and movies.
Donkeywheel 2 years ago (edited)
You forgot a tiny thing : that’s not a democracy but an authoritarian regime that dictates everything. Thus no liberty at all. An open air prison.
Black Garbage 2 years ago (edited)
Pros: A lot of good jobs here Cons: Anything below 80% in studies and no job for you
#40
Poland Pro: not much going on Con: not much going on On the one hand you get low crime rate, low homelessness, stable employment rate, stable growth, not nearly as bad of a housing crisis compared to the west, cheap, fast and robust city and intercity public transport, decent public healthcare and education, conveniently placed żabkas on every street, nearly all housing is decent quality, extremely high chances you won't go cold, you won't be hungry, you won't be stuck in a bureaucratic nightmare, you won't be sick, you won't be bankrupt On the other hand we still power everything with coal and gasoline, we refuse to grant lgbt people marriage or anything like that, the church is strong, abortion isn't that accessible, generally no progress on social issues, and while your basic needs are nicely met, your polish wage will probably not grant you much else - gonna ride a 20yo car to your job in front of a 10yo computer so that you can go home and watch your newly bought 8yo TV. So, not much going on. You're gonna have a stable but quiet life here. You're gonna be tired but eh, could've been worse, at least your landlord does not give you any headaches so long as you pay up, and you always do. The flat is small, but there's no mould like in Birmingham and it's not legit cramped like in amsterdam. If you're queer you're gonna be queer exclusively at home. The air smells funny and your kid developed allergies. Allergy medication is cheap, thankfully. That's about it. Spice it up with a little vodka on the weekend, it's way cheaper than actual hobbies. Generally, a little money solves all problems but a little-little money is all you have.
Enuya 2 years ago
Yeah. It was very, very hard 8 years for Poland. I don't trust the current coalition all that much too, but I hope they'll be able to repair at least some of the damages caused by previous ruling party. They'll not be worse, that's for sure :')
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CON: Has a problem with an infestation of white nationalists.
Enuya 2 years ago
No. And the first half is in big part false, too. Terrible healthcare. Declining and very religion- and nationalism-oriented education. Intercity public transport almost non-existing in case of most of smaller cities, let alone villages. People constantly go bancrupt. Lots of shops, yes, but many people's wages are so poor that they live from salary to salary even if they're frugal.
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#41
New Zealand.
Pros; safe, free healthcare.
Cons; tax, cost of living.
Kookamunga 2 years ago
New Zealand - aren't they the best place to be during nuclear fallout? That's a big pro.
Load More Replies... TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
It's amazing that people keep listing all of these benefits and in the same breath complain about taxes. Pick one or the other dude, those "high" taxes pay for all those pros.
Nobody Knows 2 years ago
Thank you. I was just going to post this. The "Free" stuff has to be paid for somehow.
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Michael P (Perthaussieguy) 2 years ago
Pro: The neighbours across the ditch. Con: The neighbours across the ditch
DetongLhamo 2 years ago
Super beautiful country, friendly people, rich culture and great climate and NO SNAKES!!!
#42
The Netherlands. Pro: the weather, generally nice. Neither hot nor warm. Con: the food is unbelievably boring.
Caro Caro 2 years ago
We don't have great national dishes that are loved around the world but we do have a lot of fantastic restaurants. All cuisines are represented.
Susie Elle 2 years ago
Can confirm! If all you have is AVGtje, then you have to master all the other cuisines ;)
Load More Replies... The Scout 2 years ago
Well, dutch cuisine is kind of bland. But as a result of the colonial history, you find excellent Chinese and Indonesian restaurants there. Also, they really have transformed deep frying into an art form... (a big nice bucket of "Kibbbeling" with some homemade joppie or satesaus, ... I absolutely love those crossover things like "Bamischijf" (yes, exactly what it sounds like - a patty of indonesian styr-fry noodles fried in a batter).
Caro Caro 2 years ago
Stop it !!! Now I crave all the bad foods from a friettent.*sigh*.
Load More Replies... Lurking Panda 2 years ago
But, but... Frikandel Speciaal? Nothing bland about raw onions. ;) Also, great for the munchees.
DetongLhamo 2 years ago
Haven’t you been to a bakery? Best danishes I’ve ever had. And you forgot to mention the dope cafes and shops.
#43
Singapore. Pro: Decent healthcare, education, public transport, public housing, no gun violence, no major drug problem. Con: something something Disneyland with the death penalty something something.
#44
Sweden.
Con: Swedish justice system is really s****y imo.
Pro: sun never goes down in the summer.
BoredPossum 2 years ago
That was the best pro you could come up with? The Swedish false modesty working true to form. Pros: Very few religious people, "free" health care, a democracy, great scientific quality, well developed technical standard, and Internet coverage, clean massive forests, clean water, tolerant culture, civil rights etc etc. Con: people voting for nazi-derived a$$hats trying to destroy all of that and replace it with a viking-like society.
Andy Cran 2 years ago
it was the Vikings that created Sweden as it is now (the pro's) they were a very socialist leaning society
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Emma Goransdottir 2 years ago
Pro: allemansrätten (right to roam wherever you want in nature). A beautiful versitile nature. Generous parental leave and sick leave. Fika 🙂! Con: Sweden has lost control over the growing gang crime😑
Kristiina 2 years ago
There is practically a gang war going on at the moment.
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Con: even in the far south, it's dark by 3.30pm in the winter and won't get light until 9am.
Biljana Malesevic 2 years ago
I live in Serbia and from December to March it's pretty much dark at 4pm and it gets lighter around maybe 8 am so it's not much better.
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#45
Romania.
Pro: if you have euros and convert them in my currency you're rich.
Con: gang sword fights between roms.
François Bouzigues 2 years ago
Pro : romanian people are amazing at languages, happy to share positive things about their country Cons : tsuica (sorry could not find the t with a cedille) needs an aquired taste
Alexandru Bucur 2 years ago
Well, you're in luck, we also do a lot of wine. Although our wine tastes seem to go more into the sweet white rather than dry reds favored in France.
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iseefractals 2 years ago
Pro: Dirt cheap, UHC, years of maternity leave, 4 weeks of mandatory PTO, university is free to ANYONE under the age of 26, degree completed in 3 years. $10 a month for bi-direction 10 gig fiber internet. Con: Gypsies. Shockingly corrupt government, the poorly educated older portion of citizens keeps them in power, soul crushing number of starving stray animals, taxes (which includes health care and other social contributions) are ridiculously high, wages are generally terrible, the government is actively trying to destroy small businesses, anything that's imported from out of country (which is pretty much anything you'd actually want to buy) costs 20% more thanks to VAT.
TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
Romania has the same growing conditions as France. Romanian wine is amazing.
iseefractals 2 years ago
I'll assume you mean roma, by which everyone who interacts with them refer to as gypsies. They're not "persecuted" they're held accountable for their behavior. Like the child marriages (a girl in out building got knocked up at 13 by a 24 year old, and it was "arranged" by her parents) Leaving a trail of trash everywhere they go, the army of half starved animals they allow to run freely through the streets, the commonplace occurrence of giving TODDLERS, bags of solvents to huff. So many of them contribute nothing to society while taking every single benefit they can beg, borrow or steal. It's not about ethnicity, it's about behavior.
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#46
Russia.
PROs: amazing nature, beautiful women, generally friendly people, accessible and convinient online services.
CONs: delusional warmongering leadership, many of these beautiful women and friendly people supporting abovementioned leadership, also you can get conscripted via accessible and convinient online services.
NapQueen 2 years ago
"Beautiful women"....I really hate that that's a reason somebody would give to visit their country.
Emma Goransdottir 2 years ago
Yeah..its like "im going there to buy myself a wife"..
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Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa) 2 years ago
Pretty sure I'm banned from Russia. Thing that happened about 6.5 years ago.
ispeak catanese 2 years ago
Was it involving "beautiful women" or "delusional warmongering"?
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DarkGlassSphere 2 years ago
Cons: Government. Military government is something humanity should avoid, they do not see beyond guns and force. Sick. Cons: You may find this clumsy remark about 'beautiful women' truly unfit. But as a woman, I never felt I need to fight for my rights in Russia.
Spanish-Ukrainian Cat 2 years ago (edited)
Beautiful women? Friendly people? Are you on drugs?
DetongLhamo 2 years ago
Engaged in a brutal, mostly globally unsupported war, cronyism, corruption and now antisemitism en masse.
Vix Spiderthrust 2 years ago
If you lived near Russia, you'd keep your mouth shut about it too.
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Scotland.
Pro • Beautiful scenery • We have Bens, Glens and Lochs • Deep Fried Mars Bar • NHS • Still Game Con • Politics dividing a country • Religion dividing a country • Football teams dividing a country • High cost of living • Expensive public transport
Boris Long-Johnson 2 years ago (edited)
Too many tourists. Too many English incomers coming for the better old age healthcare and “cheap” (comparatively) housing ruining the area and pricing everyone out of the market. Plus Westminster stopping any kind of reform.
#48
Austria:
Pro: very good Healthcare.
Con: Racism, sexism homophobia, you name it, is out of control.
TMoxraaaar 2 years ago
So when people are beat up for being any of those things they have free healthcare. Yes I'm being ironic
#49
Italy. Pro: we have really nice views with ancient stuff everywhere, have nice clothes and good food. Con: low pays for very high home rent/selling prices, a bit of intolerance here and there, cities are really cr*ppy-managed, expecially about trash and pollution. People have no respect of public places.
Sans Serif (Sans) 2 years ago
"People have no respect of public places" and most of them are tourists!!
#50
Pro: Universal healthcare Con: stagnant wage growth/s**t government. Australia.
NapQueen 2 years ago
You guys also have the best lingo I've ever come across, koalas, stunning scenery and the people are nice :)
David A Paterson 2 years ago
Government is at worst ineffective. It's better than UK, US, Russia, India, Indonesia and most of the rest of the world. Australia is a true democracy, unlike the flawed democracy of the US. Con: the Australian countryside isn't beautiful like for example New Zealand.
Jill Rhodry 2 years ago
I don't believe you can't have a true democracy with our two party system.
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DetongLhamo 2 years ago
Snakes, unaffordable housing for buyers and renters, deadly spiders, idiots who voted ‘No’ on recent referendum, snakes, melanoma, bushfires and snakes.
Huddo's sister 2 years ago
Pros- amazing landscapes, weather and interesting animals, Cons- increasingly extreme weather conditions, and a majority population of, at best misinformed, at worst racist, people who voted against measure that would give Indigenous people a voice and lead to improving life for them.
#51
Argentina.
Pros: Lots of memes. About anything and everything, specially the negative aspects. The term "there's always a silver lining" doesn't even come close.
Cons: +50% poverty, most corrupt politicians ever, the average income is between 200 and 300 USD and getting lower every minute, and there's literally nothing you can do about it.
#52
Nigeria Pro: pretty lawless if you have money, you can get away with most (any) things Cons: Same point as above, absolute s**t value of life.
#53
Ireland Pros: Friendly people, lots of greenery, high level of eduction (particularly at college level) Cons: Our housing market is an utter joke - so much demand and null supply, weather is pretty meh from September to March.
Glenn Schroeder 2 years ago (edited)
Was anyone else struck by the irony of "high level of eduction" (I assume the writer mean education)?
teenytabs 2 years ago
The irony keeps getting more ironic. I assume you intended to say "meant education)?
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USA.
Pros: We have a military budget big enough to fight god.
Cons: We use it on dumb stuff.
TotallyNOTaFox 2 years ago (edited)
The mlitary does a lot of other stuff too though - they constructed the dams that keep New Orleans dry after Kathrina, they provide aid after desasters and the Coast and Alpine guards are also funded under the military budget.
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Michelle Carlson 2 years ago
Pro: we're friendly and generally welcoming; huge diversity of landscapes; national parks Cons: guns, guns, guns, ignorance is glorified in our politicians, the whole pick-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps mentality
Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa) 2 years ago
We named the Flagship of our newest class of aircraft carrier after one of the least successful Presidents of all time. The Gerald R. Ford Class. Only about 12 BILLION a piece. Useless bloody turds named after a useless bloody turd.
Sans Serif (Sans) 2 years ago
We DO, when the opportunity is presented. Takes very little to stall the best of intentions if your partners are obstructionists...
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Kuwait.
Pros: Easy life, good money, very safe.
Cons: Boring, expensive, extremely hot summer.
#56
USA.
Pro: guns are easy to get.
Con: guns are easy to get.
“It’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it” - Dr. Seuss Being a responsible gun owner is not all that difficult. Education and communication is key.
BoredPossum 2 years ago
Definitely not a pro. You wouldn't need a gun to defend yourself if nobody had guns.
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silowew628@picvw.com 2 years ago
Con: my life is literally in danger every time I go out in public. Pro: at least I might get killed before Trump comes back into power and this country finally implodes for good.
LovingKnuckle 2 years ago
You’ll be fine. Your life is in danger all the time. If you are constantly concerned every time you go out you are doing more damage to yourself. Be cautious, be careful, but this idea that we are living in a war zone all the time is a bit ridiculous. I live in New Orleans, the murder capital of the country and people will have a party outside to celebrate taking a shĪt.
Load More Replies... Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa) 2 years ago
HARD DOWNVOTE ON THIS ONE. Dr. Seuss NEVER said this. This is a blatant lie. OP is some NRA shill.
Mycroft1967 2 years ago
Yes, being a responsible gun owner is key. Which is why getting guns easily is not a pro. There are irresponsible people out there. And checking people's backgrounds is essential to whether or not someone should have the Right to own a gun. We need red flag laws to stop irresponsible people. Also no one needs an AR-15 style gun except the military- especially if they are irresponsible. We have more laws for driving a car, drinking, and smoking than we do to buy a gun in many states. That is irresponsible.
Leo Domitrix 2 years ago
Look, a gun should NEVER be easy to get. I grew up wihth 'em. They get stolen even if locked in a safe (some folks will have the safe stolen, as happened to my dad). They're somehow magically cheap on the street despite supposed regulation. It should not be easier to get a gun than to get a colonoscopy.
Karl 2 years ago
I reckon the average person is too stupid to own a lethal weapon - regardless of country.
Michael Largey 2 years ago
If that were true, why do so many stupider than average people own guns?
Load More Replies... teenytabs 2 years ago
How many studies need to be made before people start believing that more guns = more gun violence. Just because you fantasize in your head that you can out-gun a home invader or school shooter with your make-believe rambo skills, DOES NOT MEAN you will actually carry out that fantasy in a real life scenario.
Jodie Johnson 2 years ago
Guns and the gun culture are NOT A PRO. We have mass shootings almost daily.
#57
TURKEY Pros: * Naturally really beautiful. All those archeologic sites, natural beaches, Cappadocia etc. * Delicious food. * Friendly people. * Good weather. Can swim and also can go skiing. Cons: * Erdoğan * S****y government and economy * All those immigrant Syrians, Pakis etc. who do nothing but use our resources, breed like crazy and look at our women as if they want to eat them.
Penguin Panda Pop 2 years ago
This one has friendly people as a pro and then immigrants as a con. How do those two things together make sense?
Fun Fan 2 years ago (edited)
OP was reffering to immigrants not wanting to be really part of their new country, just using the resources, without giving something to it. At least, that's how I understood. And that's a major problem not just in Turkey. And not just with immigrants.
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LokisLilButterknife 2 years ago
What a disgusting, racist comment. Does BoredPanda even review what they post.
JoyfulZebra 2 years ago (edited)
Geez, that last one. I'll admit, I don't have a good understanding of the situation in Turkiye, but that seems quite xenophobic.
JuJu 2 years ago
Heard an a55hat say exactly the same things about immigrants from Turkey in the 90s in Berlin.
What do you think ?
silowew628@picvw.com 2 years ago
It really feels like the world is on the verge of collapse. Fascism is rising almost everywhere, people can't afford to live and have a home, wars and more wars - it seems like it's all about to come to a head. 😕
Glenn Schroeder 2 years ago
I don't think the world is in much worse shape than it's ever been, and better in some ways. We think it's bad because so many people focus on the bad while overlooking the good.
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Limey 2 years ago
Disturbing how many of the cons regardless of country were “corruption” and often specifically “corrupt government”. This appears to be a problem far wider than just a specific country.
Leo Domitrix 2 years ago
Yep. There's parts of the world where if you don't have the ability to slip a bribe during a handshake, you may as well avoid the country. And, yes, I have learned that skill.. And that's just to get out of the airport. The corruption is one thing that *does* trickle down. (Profits, not so muc.)
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CanadianDimes 2 years ago
Pro when I moved to the UK: part of the EU :) Con now: Not part of the EU :(
Ranger Kanootsen 2 years ago
Since I used to live in Kenya: Pros - A large amount of diversity with language, communities and landscapes, great weather, affordable cost of living Cons - it's quite unsafe bc of high crime rate, limited transport options and roads are s**t, SO MUCH corruption, good luck finding water, little variety with food as low imports.
Lily Braunekatze 2 years ago
Canada, Pro: vast landscape, diverse culture, high standard of living, universal healthcare, clean drinking water, low crime rate, good infrastructure Con: Because of our close relationship with the USA we import all their political hatred. Our politicians are constantly trying to pit the working class against each other so that we forget that the rich and mega corps are bleeding us all dry.
DennyS (denzoren) 2 years ago
Trinidad & Tobago Pro: Beautiful island, diverse people and wonderful food infused with all different cultures. Con: We are fast becoming a crime ridden and corruption nation.
JessieJ&LilyLovebug 2 years ago
The World has, is, and will always be a horrible place...of that you can always be assured.
silowew628@picvw.com 2 years ago
It really feels like the world is on the verge of collapse. Fascism is rising almost everywhere, people can't afford to live and have a home, wars and more wars - it seems like it's all about to come to a head. 😕
Glenn Schroeder 2 years ago
I don't think the world is in much worse shape than it's ever been, and better in some ways. We think it's bad because so many people focus on the bad while overlooking the good.
Load More Replies... Limey 2 years ago
Disturbing how many of the cons regardless of country were “corruption” and often specifically “corrupt government”. This appears to be a problem far wider than just a specific country.
Leo Domitrix 2 years ago
Yep. There's parts of the world where if you don't have the ability to slip a bribe during a handshake, you may as well avoid the country. And, yes, I have learned that skill.. And that's just to get out of the airport. The corruption is one thing that *does* trickle down. (Profits, not so muc.)
Load More Replies... CanadianDimes 2 years ago
Pro when I moved to the UK: part of the EU :) Con now: Not part of the EU :(
Ranger Kanootsen 2 years ago
Since I used to live in Kenya: Pros - A large amount of diversity with language, communities and landscapes, great weather, affordable cost of living Cons - it's quite unsafe bc of high crime rate, limited transport options and roads are s**t, SO MUCH corruption, good luck finding water, little variety with food as low imports.
Lily Braunekatze 2 years ago
Canada, Pro: vast landscape, diverse culture, high standard of living, universal healthcare, clean drinking water, low crime rate, good infrastructure Con: Because of our close relationship with the USA we import all their political hatred. Our politicians are constantly trying to pit the working class against each other so that we forget that the rich and mega corps are bleeding us all dry.
DennyS (denzoren) 2 years ago
Trinidad & Tobago Pro: Beautiful island, diverse people and wonderful food infused with all different cultures. Con: We are fast becoming a crime ridden and corruption nation.
JessieJ&LilyLovebug 2 years ago
The World has, is, and will always be a horrible place...of that you can always be assured.
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