30 Things Taught In School That Raise The Question “What Was The Point?” As Shared By People In This Online Group
School is all about learning things, and the more you learn, the smarter you’ll be, right? Well, some don’t really agree that everything taught in schools is actually useful in life.
Folks on AskReddit have been listing and discussing things and topics that are taught in schools that are actually pretty, if not completely, useless given what you actually end up using in real life.
Reddit user u/highnrgy asked the lovely people of Reddit what’s the most useless thing they teach in school?, getting over 17,700 responses with nearly 35,000 upvotes on the post.
Bored Panda has gathered the best responses and turned it into a neat curated list below, so be sure to scroll through it and give your two cents on the topic in the comment section.
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In my experience, the way gym and PE were taught were pretty useless because they never taught us how to train or improve our athletic abilities. It was just weeks of half heartedly playing basketball with minimal adult supervision, and then one day we had to run a mile and the coaches would go out of their way to humiliate anyone who couldn't just get up and run a mile under 10 minutes with no training or preparation. It put me off running and exercise in general for a long time.
Yes definitely! Every gym teacher I ever had. "Are you already good at sports? Awesome here's a ball go play! Do you have no clue what you are doing? Well umm, you'll get better if your classmates mock you for being terrible at sports right? No? Then just try to stay out of the way I guess. "
So much this. I was the opposite of athletically inclined. If they pushed me too hard-- which they often did-- I would taste BLOOD in the back of my throat. Apparently that's the sign of a *miniature heart attack* which many athletes can get if they push themselves much too hard. A PE teacher should really know that. But instead, I was told to 'stop being so dramatic' when I told her about it because it worried me. I was already having health issues, I'm sure that didn't help. Screw PE.
Load More Replies..."In my experience, the way gym and PE were taught were pretty useless because they never taught us how to train or improve our athletic abilities" Perfect description. When I was at school it was obvious some people were more naturally athletically inclined and were fawned over whereas those of us who had potential but needed guidance were blanked. Always seemed strange to me as physical education was still meant to be EDUCATION.
It was torture for me. Small, quiet, not athletic in the slightest, always chosen last for a team, teachers not complying with the medical letters that say I shouldn't do any sports at the moment....even now, 15 years later, the word "exercise" makes me anxious. I call it "moving" instead.
Yep yep yep. My advice is that you try some different things, and start out very light and slow, until you find something you kind of enjoy. After a while of challenging yourself, you truly will start to enjoy it (endorphins and all that). Good luck!
Load More Replies...Unless you are actually any good at sport, PE was just a bit of mandatory excercise. It sure as hell wasn't fun. Playing touch rugby when the ground was frozen and it wasn't fit to play normal rugby or when it was too wet, doing cross-country. The only sports I liked were badminton, mainly because it was indoors, and hockey becase nobody would come near me when I was waving a hockeystick like a golf club! :D
You've hit the nail on the head. I'm guessing you're from the UK (or Ireland) as my experience sounds the same as yours. I wasn't (and still aren't) interested in competitive sport like football or rugby but I was a half decent runner. Yet that was never even seen let alone encouraged in me. I hate to sound like a bitter old man (but eff it, I am) but PE teachers always came across to me as failed athletes trying to live vicariously through their pupils in the sport they personally had a connection to. Good at football? Great I used to play semi professionally. What do you need from me? Good at running? Don't care about that, how are the football guys doing?
Load More Replies...Changing clothes & taking showers with ppl who definitely didn't view each other as a team was very damaging.
Getting criticized in jr. high/middle school ( I had both, moving to another county)-body, hair, clothes-was fun.
Load More Replies...Yes! And no allowances were given for differing levels of athletic ability. So those of us who were less athletic were humiliated by classmates and teachers. It put me off physical activity for a long time, too, which is pretty much the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do.
Very much this! If you were bad at some sport or other form of PE, you were made fun of and made felt like s**t. Then there were the team sports, we had a gymnastics team at our school, and because I wasn't one of the popular girls, I couldn't get in, even though I was hella flexible and really interested in the whole things. Outside of school I did soccer, but the team coach kept holding me back to force me to play with younger girls, because I was a bit short at the time, and after a couple of years of that I had had enough. I wanted to play with girls my age! The younger kids were so annoying! We also had sort of PE "exams" where they'd test out how many sit ups and push ups you could do, how much/fast can you run, how flexible are you, and other s**t like that, without actually training for it. In middle school and high school the PE teachers were super mean too. Oh, and we were expected to own a pair of skis and skates just so that we could go skiing and ice skating like 2-3 times
I'm 37, and only started working out (lifting weights and now running and going to spin classes) in the past few years, because I had a miserable time in gym class. It was designed to get people on sports teams, and to leave everyone else behind. It's the only class in which the "cool" kids can openly torment (and even injure) the not cool kids, and it's all considered part of the class. There's no actual teaching involved, as there is in science and math and english and social studies - if you aren't naturally talented, you're left behind. Physical education classes in school are the embodiment of toxic jock culture. If I had actually been taught about how to keep my body strong and healthy, I would have been healthy my entire life, rather than waiting until my 30's to just get started. And now, to learn what I should have learned in grades 1-12 (really, 7-12 are when it got awful), I have to spend hundreds of dollars a month for a personal trainer.
On the other hand, you've possibly been spared some joint injuries that may have started giving you grief in your 40s-50s. I know several jock-types, male and female, who've needed knee replacements in their 50s, and one girl who needed one in her 30s from playing soccer.
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That your entire self worth is based off of a letter and score.
Also, I hated that any art project got letter grades. Like I'm sorry I'm not as talented as Ashley/Jessica/Brittney or that my dad wouldn't buy me the correct supplies. I tried. I did what I could with the resources I had. That deserves better than a C, doesn't it?
The lettering and scoring isn’t the bad bit - it’s the teachers and parents that make bad grades look like a character flaw. To excel at anything, you have to be bad at it first. That’s what learning is all about: slowly acquiring skills and knowledge. A grade merely approximates your success on a scale. If you didn’t develop an interest or had too little time, your grade might be bad. No shame attached.
The schools place more emphasis on standardized testing than what the children really need to know. They dont NEED to know about Shakespeare and how to read his works, although he was a great author. But they do need to know basic math and life skills and how to read in order to function as adults
I was told to memorize all these sums. No one ever asked why I couldn't figure out math without ridiculing. I was made to feel so stupid that it's ingrained in my head I'll never be able to do math with ease and every time someone tries to help me I get upset and frustrated.
So how do you determine whether a child is learning, without some way of measuring whether they understand the work? Skipping crucial steps prevents progress and leads to the ignorance we now see in graduates. What's a better way?
A better way to express an evaluation is with words, letter or number grades are a reduction of useful information. A better way to comment is to not call recent grades ignorant, in general. A better way to form an argument is to give an example that reinforces your opinion, recent grads did have letter grades.
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“Cheaters never prosper.” Yeah cheating is bad, but trust me, they prosper.
"I used to think the honors students were smarter than the regular students. Then I realized that they're just better at cheating." (my AP US History teacher)
Not everyone, but I am both smart and good at cheating.
Load More Replies...And they grow up to be politicians! (This is a joke, please don’t yell at me)
Cheaters, bullies, the general scum of society....always floats to the top.
That classical literature is the end all be all of reading. I get some books have cultural significance, but that doesn't warrant a 6 week in depth analysis of a book kids can't relate to, with most being about challenges they will never face, culminating in an essay that's basically "I understood it" repeated over and over backed up by quotes.
If you want your kids to never touch a book in their lives ever again, THAT is how you do it.
And the only "correct" interpretation of a classical work is the one the teacher has the most interest in. Regardless of whether the author has anything to say on the matter (modern classics here obviously).
Omg yes, that! Teachers often disapprove of students having their own opinion about the book or characters, or the plot, if it's different from that of the teacher. Ugh made me stay away from any classical literature all my life.
Load More Replies...Teaching a book is how to kill any love of reading, IMO. Had I not read the classics for fun ---- not knowing they were classics ----- I'd have loathed being taught "literature".
Idk. I always enjoyed when the teacher explained the book. Especially in my college lit class. It was cool learning what these dense, hard-to-read books actually meant. Then again, I’ve always loved reading. (Not a dig. Just my take on myself:)
Load More Replies...I love reading but I hate how schools force you to analyse and it takes so long you never finish the book
I was that kid that would read in between classes. My American Lierature Survey teacher in high school used to make fun of my choices (mysteries and adventure thrillers) in front of the entire class. You would think he would be happy to have a student that actually read for pleasure.
Reading is reading, as long as you weren’t reading, say, Mein Kampf for pleasure, who cares? Especially the teacher! Ugh, sorry you had a mean teacher, they shouldn’t be making fun of anyone in front of the class period.
Load More Replies...I'm an avid reader and a fast one at that, so I'd finish the books for English class quickly. Then I got to endure weeks of the book being beaten to death, being forced to read out loud in class and the endless busy work quizzes that boiled down to "did you read this chapter? Did you memorize every mundane detail? What color were Miss Haversham's curtains? You obviously didn't read it if you didn't pick up on every tiny detail and memorized it! " and when it came to actual discussion over the book, woe betide you if you developed a different opinion than your English teacher! Classes taught this way are guaranteed to make kids hate books.
Same. But that lead to me not reading the books anymore as I was always belittled for "reading ahead"
Load More Replies...I like it, but I went to a pretty good prep school and the teachers really loved what they taught. I am also surprised some rando teenager's opinion of a work is somehow super valid compared to those who have literally studied it their whole lives. Most people can barely get through Milton or Chaucer without help. Heck most people barely understand something as easy to read as Plutarch. And there are modern translations of Homer and Herodotus out pretty recently that are accessible. It's just that people spend more time stuck in the weeds and can't get out into the higher ideas. Most kids in high school and college in the US are ill prepared for rigorous coursework in the classics.
Oh this is so true! My kid loves to read because her private school encouraged them to read everything!
Is this an American thing? Does any other countries do this? We certainly don't (Norway)
It's a british empire thing. We do it here as well. Tortured with shakespeare etc for years.
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That learning how to pass tests is more important than actually gaining knowledge.
Ok…unpopular opinion, sometimes this one is needed. Like if you are good at X, but freeze during tests but need to pass a certification test for X, sometimes test taking skills are necessary, briefly.
i agree. i think OP meant like, simply memorizing information for a brief amount of time, then forgetting and learning something else when that unit is over and a new one begins. correct me if im wrong, and please don't take this the wrong way.
Load More Replies...I think this person means the fact that a majority of the schools spend all their time in the US prepping the students to take the national tests. From what I understand (and I could be wrong) a lot of the school districts' funding is based upon how well students perform on these tests. Therefore they spend copious amounts of time hammering what it is in these tests to students all year long instead of teaching them applicable skills that will help them succeed in life.
When teachers know their jobs depend on how well their students do on tests, what do they do? Teach to the test. Turn their students into parrots that can give answers by rote. And, of course, cheat. There was a major test cheating scandal in Atlanta a few years ago - people altered test papers to give the kids higher scores. As Plutarch said, the mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be kindled. Our schools treat kids' minds like vessels to be stuffed with facts and figures they can later regurgitate on cue. That is what computers are for, not people.
Load More Replies...100% behind this, I was always one of the most engaged students in classes and would ask plenty of questions and just get involved in subjects that I found interesting, but I am terrible at taking exams! as an adult I was diagnosed with ADHD which explains why I'd switch off about 20 minutes into an exam and start counting the squares on the ceiling
I'd rather learn the material. Pass the test to prove I learned the material. Than spend sooooo much time on pointless homework assignments. Homework was why my grades sucked. I just couldn't wrap my brain around countless, pointless, time waste while I was in my 'absorb everything like a sponge' years.
Linking Standardized tests to school funding is probably the worst thing to ever happen to formal education
When I look back at tests when I was young, it seemed they made them intentionally hard and forced you to memorize. Not to mention, obscenely long. Seems to me, understanding the concept and ability to apply it to a few questions is more than adequate vs. 50-100 fill in the bubble questions. And what gets me, the "multiple guess". Two far off answers that no one would choose unless they really didn't know the material. Then one similar answer to the right one that could confuse you, but wrong just how its worded.
There are almost none multiple choice test in schools in my country. Was highly irritated I was confronted with one during English classes for the first time like in "what's the point of it"?
That you have to "ignore" bullies and/or forgive them. In real outside world if you bully someone you will:
- Get slapped across the face
- Get kicked in your butt
- Fired from work Or
- Shunned and made fun of.
Or, sadly, promoted. We'd like karma to put bullies in their place in the real world, and we celebrate the rare times that happens, but they're the exception, not the rule.
For some reason that I don't understand, victims of bullying are treated much the same way as victims of sexual assault. The authority figures tend to side with, or actively protect, the bully. The general thought is that the bullying victim did something to "ask for it" or misconstrued the situation. They rarely receive any actual help and are left to endure continuing bullying that escalates. If/when the victim of bullying, snaps and fights back, THEY are the ones that are punished. What a f*****g joke!
Absolutely. At 49 years old, as a male child-victim of bullying, I’ve been told MANY times by a couple people at least to just “get over it and move on.”
Load More Replies...If you ignore and/or forgive the bullies, that's one less problem for the teacher to solve. Decades later, I appreciate the teachers who told off kids who bullied others. That includes the Grade Two teacher who told me off for insulting a classmate. I deserved it and it also taught me not to be an asshole.
Bullies get promoted, nice people get walked over. This has been proven over and over in studies. It's apparently a scientific thing to do with human psychology where we flock to bullies for leadership as they seem so self assured and knowledgeable, when they're really talking out of their over-inflated a**, but the rest of us don't have the confidence to call them out on it.
I got in trouble in elementary school for standing up to a girl who bullied me. I got lunch detention. Was locked in a room by myself. All because I told a girl she should shut up because she went around telling everyone in the school that I hated them. Smh.
I was bullied from grades 2-8 at the same school. (USA). Not looking for sympathy. Just facts. I KNOW bullying. Now, at 49, I’ve had a 15-odd-year-long career working in adolescent residential treatment canters. I am not condoning violence. But I can say with certainty that no anti-bullying program has worked or will work. Ever. I mean, getting the police involved - as bullying is a crime in the USA (or my state at least) - will get the bully removed. But...the stigma surrounding the victim will remain and still be felt by both the victim - AND the outside supporters of the bully who maybe laughed on the sidelines. They remain. The victim is not suddenly going to be accepted by peers is what I’m saying. And, removing the bully - while likely the safest physically for the victim and the school - will likely lead to new stressors for the victim. I have found (through my work with teens) that the effective solutions are either (sadly) physical retaliation or changing schools. Thank you
Bullies exist in the real world, the thing is as an adult you can choose to never interact with them once you identify them, as a kid you often get stuck with them for long portions of your day. I have worked for 2 right bullies, and I have quit those jobs. The bullies aren't punished for their crimes but I am free to choose to live without them. Which is amazing. And as time passes it will be much less likely they will think it was you when their car gets vandalized.
We told our kids that if they are getting bullied they need to tell the teacher and then tell us. If it doesn't stop we would step in. We also told them not to put their hands on anyone but if someone puts their hands on our kids, we instructed our kids to finish it! Defending themselves is a skill they need to learn!
This is going to sound stupid, but history the way it's taught is basically meaningless.
A long category of dates and events without context or real discussion. The vast majority of history is trivia, because the real story is the cyclical nature of events, the rise and fall of empires, the periods of enlightenment and advance and the reactionary times that bookend them.
You learn that there used to be this thing called "yellow journalism" but you don't learn that what kicked it off was the sudden availability and popularity of newspapers, and nobody draws the EXTREMELY OBVIOUS parallel to our modern blog driven media. If I told you that in the mid to late 1800s (when newsprint was blowing up) that it was extremely common for papers to blatantly copy each others stories with added editorial bias tailored to their viewers...Sounds a little familiar, doesn't it?
Drawing parallels between the robber barons of the late 1800s and the current ones. Drawing parallels between the labor movements of that era, and the ones that are growing again today. S!@#s relevant, and important to realize in context.
But no. Just memorize some f!@#$%g dates and names, so you'll have some s!@t to spout at trivia night later.
So totally true. The book that turned me on to history was William Manchester’s brilliant *The Glory and the Dream* which came out in 1974 and covered American history from 1932 to 1972. Those years encompassed the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, the rise of the industrial state, and was written as a series of events presented in chronological order, showing how one inexorably led to the other. And here and there a person, place, or thing would be highlighted in a small portrait...the Studebaker sticks in my brain as one of these portraits. I think the rise of unions might be in there. I think I’ve read everything he’s written. A World Lit Only By Fire is another great one. If you want to learn history as a series of stories, William Manchester is your go-to author.
I hated being forced to memorize mostly battles, wars, and invasions.
I’m a history buff, not dry dates and names, but real stories and way people lived, day to day, I at all levels of society. what they wore, what they ate, how they cooked, where they worked, etc. plus, I agree with commenters here who say we should be learning what is essentially the Butterfly Effect of smaller actions that snowball into major history-making events. THAT’S the kind of history we should be teaching, as it fills in the context of the times being taught, and gives a more complete picture, including parts the kids can identify with.
THIS. Oh my goodness. Those aspects of history were always FAR more interesting to me than the crap they taught us in school. Battles and 'important' figures, 'exploration' and dates. The thing that really bothered me was this weird obsession with driving in the 'fact' that any society that didn't have the latest (or any) metallurgy, was 'primitive' and therefore 'backwards' and bad. No matter if they were more advanced socially or technologically in others areas, since that's clearly not important. So many people don't know about how native peoples in the Americas developed all kinds of crops that have become vitally important to the rest of the world. Instead, Potatoes have become associated with the Irish rather than the Peruvians, Tomatoes are synonymous with Italy rather than the Aztecs, and Chocolate is associated with Europe instead of the Olmec.
Load More Replies...My history teacher is actually really good. He has to teach in an unbiased way, or course, but he teaches about all of the historical perspectives, and how they impacted everything. We are also given a lot of Resources to help us with final projects, and plenty of extra time in needed. He teaches really well and I love the class!
I never taught "dates". There were dates that were relevant, and those most people know, already. I did have foreign students and they were unaware of their meaning, those I taught. What I taught is that NOTHING happens in a vacuum. Everything is action and reaction. There are some societies that think that they can control their futures [like people] by controlling everything around them i.e. China. But it always fails. I also teach why, something people are unaware of. I also show that you cannot predict the future, or even the present, by controlling the past aka teaching a specific "slant." I also challenge my students but I tell them I will ask them to cite sources for their "information". And they are told that they should never take anything at face value and they are to NEVER tell me that they "believe" something. You know or do not know. Belief ONLY belongs in religion. Facts are relevant.
Canadian history was the biggest snooze fest and most sugar-coated subject. Up until about 1999, we just learned about the fur trade, the voyagers, the settlers, pioneers, very briefly on the protests against hydro dam and forestry developments and briefly on the prime ministers.
As a Canadian, I can say it wasn't much better on our end. We learned almost nothing about the native people who lived here before, nope, not important. They were just a footnote until the 'real' history began when white people came along. *sigh* Even after white people came along, they're totally ignored unless they were Métis (mixed european and native american ancestry). Really bothered me.
Load More Replies...Hallo history teacher here!!!!yes!!!!the true goal of history is to understand human nature as well as develop critical thinking skills and the ability to understand different causes and perspectives, the SA apartheid system is a good example of this.
I learned history as "story", and I had some great elementary school teachers who connected the past to the current events, etc. Very rare, I'm guessing.
Yeah, I think that is pretty rare. I didn't experience that in public schools until college. Private HS was somewhat better because no school board to make the curriculum fit the narrative they wanted.
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"The bell doesn't dismiss you; I do."
Of course the bell dismisses you. What you're being prepared for, however, is a lifetime of bosses telling you that coming in 15 minutes before your shift, and staying 10 minutes after, doesn't count as overtime and doesn't need to be paid. That it's okay to violate that safety rule on-site because OSHA isn't paying you, I am, and the customer is waiting on you.
Basically, anytime an authority figure isn't following the rules they themselves set for everyone, you are being trained to accept that behavior in your adult life.
And give you time to get to your next class—-which may be all the way across a huge campus and take every single second of the break time between classes, often running at full speed. So, any instructor spewing this bullshit can go f**k themselves. Please collectively complain about them to the school administrators. The more of you, the better. Don’t forget to document every instance. You can do the same about an unreasonable boss later in life
Load More Replies...I think it's really just about respect – it's rude to get up and walk out without being dismissed by a teacher just because the bell rang. Surely you wouldn't get up and walk out the door while someone is talking to you. But I also get that some teachers can be real assholes about it.
Why do 30 kids have to respect one teacher who can't keep a damn schedule? Those 30 kids have 30 other classes to get to, and if they are 1 minute late, they get in trouble or even locked out of the room. They are the ones deemed "disrespectful", and the teacher who can't be bothered to plan their time and respect other people's time has no repercussions. People who don't respect others don't deserve any respect of their own.
Load More Replies...I think the point is more that just because time is up doesn't mean a task is over. Checking everything is done (or tidied away safely on hold or whatever) and everyone is ok for leaving before stampeding out seems like a really useful skill to learn.
I’m a teacher. When I have had to say this, it’s because students (6-8 grade) are getting up from their seats and crowding around the door before the bell rings. I’ve never seen a teacher at my school run over time.
If the bell doesn't dismiss you, it also doesn't dictate when you have to arrive
I was the kind of smarta$$ who would ask, "Then why do we even have the bell?"
We have a teacher that get up and go away the instant the time assigned for a meeting is up. Even if somebody is finishing their phrase. Nobody think much of her
Of course the bell dismisses you. If not , at least in the high school I teach at, the next teachers of those students will all have students late to class and be pissed at the teacher who held them making them late. It shows a a callousness and disregard for the other's teachers' time educating the students.
Yaaaaa that's when you stand up calmly gather your stuff and leave. If the teacher stays anything explain (again calmly) that the bell has rung and you are not going to run to your next class just because they are having a power trip. Stay calm throughout all of this most teachers (like ones that would do this crap) are expecting bad behavior, screaming, cussing, flat out disrespect and won't know how to respond to a level headed teen.
I do say something of the sort to my students (11/12 years old) but I explain it, if the bell rings when I'm talking it's rude to just pack your bag and get out of the classroom. But it would be rude of me to keep them longer than they have to, so I make it a point to always let them pack before the bell rings and they can get out on the gong. I miss it once or twice a year, and only keep them long enough to end my sentence when it's the case. The only time I deliberately forbid them to pack up before the bell is when they misbehave, but I still let them pack as soon as the bell rings.
I graduated in 1991 for context and, while living in Phoenix, they taught us square dancing in gym class. I must say though that the most useful skill that I was taught at that school that I use every single day is typing.
It was the only PE class I could do. I was double-scheduled with music and PE (think Hermione, but without the Time Turner!), and somehow music won, so I did hardly any PE in school. For one term out of four I was swapped, and we either did square/country dancing and badminton - both of which I enjoyed - or netball and hockey, which I couldn't play because I'd missed three terms of learning the rules so I just ran around out of the way.
Load More Replies...It's fun, it teaches coordination, it's social and it's exercise!
See I wish square dancing had been part of my gym curriculum. My school gym experience taught me that the only way to exercise was through competitive team sports. And if you you weren't naturally good at them there was no point in even trying, because you would just loose and your teammates would hate you for it. I think school should show that there are many ways to get exercise and everyone should find something they enjoy.
We learned square dancing, the electric slide, and a couple other dances in 6th grade, and they’re the only things I learned in gym class that I remember how to do (sort of). I never even learned how to play some of the games we had to do during class.
Load More Replies...I wish they had taught me typing at school BEFORE I had been doing it for 6 or 7 years. We did a rather boring short course called Business Keyboarding and French. This entailed someone trying to get me to unlearn my typing skills and get me to navigate my way through a French switchboard with all the linguistic skill of a howler monkey.
Ikr imagine square dancing when you cam cube dance.
Load More Replies...I took dancing lessons (tap, jazz, ballet) as a teenager, and I absolutely hated hated hated square dancing.
As an exchange student for 10th grade, is Sweden, we learn a few dances, and it was so much fun as the boys came in and we all learned together! We also did orienteering in the Forrest. This was so much fun and learning how to use a compass and longitude and latitude was also worth it , when we learned basket ball, we learned how to play it first, then went on court to play it!
Sex and drug education. The entire lesson plan is:
"Just don't do it."
F!@#$%g bulls!@t.
If you're a parent, and you're waiting for public school to teach your kids about sex, you're parenting wrong.
Once upon a time they did a decent job of this in my state. No more. Now it is either abstinence or the subject is avoided completely. Continuing the cycle of ignorant choices and pregnant teens.
Stigmatizing sex is stupid. I learned about birth control and STDs years before I was sexually active. Back in high school, I told some other girls that they could get pamphlets in the guidance counselors' office. They seemed hesitant, so I told them, "C'mon, they put them out because they want you to have them."
Load More Replies..."Don't do it" is stupid. I gave the elevator speech to a teenage nephew: You can die of alcohol poisoning; not a good idea to do drugs while your brain is still immature; get a girl pregnant and she keeps the baby, you have to help support the kid (not sure about that one, but his mom would have kicked his ass for sure). Sometime in his late teens, he was seen having tea with friends. Damn, I forgot to warn him about that..
I've never heard about the elevator speech, what is that?
Load More Replies...This is only true in some areas of the US. The sex ed part, anyway. The drug “education” part is crazy stupid; we already know how not to get high.
They stopped the USA federal drug education program because it was teaching kids how to identify and use drugs.
Load More Replies...How about "this is how it works, this is the consequence, these are the wise choices and we will support your making them?"
iowa dont give 2 shits about drug usage but they go into completely uneccisary detail with the sex ed
So lazy to say "just don't do it". No talking about who, what, why, when, where. No mention of what can go wrong and why it's important to stay away from certain things. No explanations. No talk of what to do if you do choose this or that. Nothing about who to turn to or where to go when you get in trouble. Yea, sounds great~! 0 education, just tell kids not to do something, surely they will stay away from everything they're not allowed when you simply tell them no, right? The land of all the opportunities to educate kids and young people. Who is taking the opportunities?
I feel like almost everything has some value, but I really really wished that they taught highschool classes on Operating Systems, Excel, and an introduction to programming and logic.
I learned it all in college, but Excel saved me a ton of time on homework. Programming played a much greater role than I could have imagined, and highschool left me unprepared for that.
Well I did a course when I was 15-16 to learn Word Processing, Spreadsheets and simple Databases, simply to play with the computers. Don't laugh, but I got an 'F'! Mainly because it was assessed on typing accuracy and not my understanding of what I was using. I also didn't take the 3rd module, so the highest I could get was a 'D'. From 17-18 I did a Computing qualification which did actually involve programming, but sadly back in the 1980s, it was a case of teach-the-teacher - my programming skills were already way above what the course was teaching - but at least I got a piece of paper to say that I could do it. I then went on to do a degree in Computer Science. So much better for kids now, learning to program with Raspberry Pi's and the like.
At least you were assessed on typing ACCURACY. I was assessed on whether I kept my fingertips in contact with the "home row" which was a load of BS.
Load More Replies...No idea how teachers are in other parts of the world, but in Germany Corona showed that the amount of computer illiterate or at least computer resistant teachers is legion. I have no idea WHO would actually be able to teach Excel&Co, here.
Yes, they need to start with touch typing, then the standard keyboard shortcuts, like triple click, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Shift-right arrow, etc. After that, teach the basics such as spreadsheets. It is expected in so many jobs now. I have people coming out of college with software degrees who barely know how to use a computer.
Hilarious. These didn't exist when I went to school. In college, the science students were programming research results with punch cards; I was in art, so missed out.
As someone who went to school before even electric typewriters, I agree. Wish there were a way to teach those computer skills to older people. I've taken several computer classes that purport to do that but just teach how to use social media, look up answers to questions, and get on the internet. I know how to do those things! Even when I ask before signing up for a particular class and am assured that spreadsheets, Excel, and various operating systems will be taught, they are not. Waste of time and money!
My school had a typing and programming elective. It was the most useful class. I learned how to type in the first half of the year and how to use Excel in the second half. I'm sure there were other programs I learned, but it was Excel that always stuck with me.
In the U.S., probably the Pledge of Allegiance.
We did that every day from first grade through 12th grade. Let's say it took a minute per day. That's five minutes a week. Every 12 weeks, that's an hour. You're in school roughly 36 weeks a year, so that's 3 hours a year. Multiplied by 12 years and that's about 36 hours of your youth academic career spent talking to a flag.
Everyone in my class just straight up refuses to do it, we just keep doing the warm up.
You have to warm up to pledge? Is it some kind of endurance?
Load More Replies...In India, they have morning prayers—literally sing songs for like 20 mins everyday before starting the day. You don’t want to do it? Not an option. You get beaten. At least in the USA, you can refuse and your teachers are not gonna beat the crap outa you.
We had the same thing during apartheid, it is a consequence of a nationalist government. Vote them out.
Load More Replies...When I was a kid (in the UK,) we had school assembly every morning where we gathered in a massive hall and sang Christian songs and said Christian prayers and had motivational Christian readings. I went along with it as everyone else did as we just thought, as kids, it was the normal thing to do. Looking back it was very strange as we were never once asked if someone wasn't a Christian and/ or didn't want to participate for whatever reason. Bear in mind though that stuff I experienced was in the late 80's/early to mid 90's. It does sound (and feel) very strange similar stuff is still happening in 2021.
Yeah same here. It's a british empire thing. we now have an organisation that hunts this down as it's directly prohibited in our constitution for government schools. (What about hindu/muslim kids)
Load More Replies...America is weird - it's the only place where people say "we're the freest country EVER! Now you'd better say the damn pledge of ALLEGIANCE or else there will be consequences!"
Yeah, we don't do that. On the other hand, we are free unless ... You need/want an abortion, you aren't white, you aren't rich, you don't worship like I do, you don't like my guns, you cancelled me! ...
Load More Replies...The one thing that reciting the pledge of allegiance has taught me is to rebel against it.
I was in high school during the years of the Vietnam War and I refused to do the pledge as a protest.
This didn't happen when I was in school in the 80's and 90's but here in Texas they make the kids say the pledge of allegiance and the pledge of Texas. It's so cult like it's scary!
The US infatuation about the flag is just bizarre. We've made the symbol a point of worship over the thing its supposed to symbolize. Our three biggest religions (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) all consider idolatry a crime but we make our children swear allegiance to an object. Our national anthem is 12 lines describing a piece of cloth we have not used in over 200 years and 1 line about what we think our country stands. Its federal crime to burn a flag while its perfectly fine to burn the constitution or Obama in effigy. I've personally seen so much evil forgiven (we call it flag waving) just because its sitting there behind the person speaking. People honestly say and believe my grandfather lost his leg defending the flag instead of saying he lost his leg to stop Hitler. I got detention for saying it in 2nd grade when I refused the pledge and I believe it even more as an adult whose seen the evil its used for. Our flag is NOT our country.
And you repeat it that often, you never forget it even if you want to. Also, the "under God" shouldn't be there. It wasn't in the original. Because I think the author believed in separation of church and state. Anyone who knows for sure please correct/elaborate.
under God wasn't added until the 1950s because of...communism?
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‘You won’t have a calculator in your pocket in the real world!’
Yes, I know how do do math, I’m an engineer and I like math theory, I promise I’m not a brain dead mobile addict.
Yes you will. People don't calculate the trajectories of rockets on paper lol.
I got in trouble with this one in elementary school. My dad was a bookkeeper - added numbers for a living. I told my teacher that not only would we have a calculator in the real world, our bosses would require us to use it because it makes less mistakes. Dad got called and I got punished for disrespecting the teacher but dad also backed me up. He calmly asked her to stop using the phrase and emphasize all the good things math helps you do instead of a punishment forced upon us.
Load More Replies...That one I disagree with, because having a "number sense" is a great sanity check for all sorts of news items you encounter. You won't pull out a calculator every time you see numerical misinformation. You'll just blindly accept it. A lot of the reasons that COVID misinformation is so popular is because people can't do math well enough to see the misinformation.
I still do math in my head for addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and some basic conversions ------ but in my generation, that wasn't too unusual.
And yet, it is still super useful to me to be able to do quick math in my head, and most of my university level students used to wish they could too, even though they all had phones.
My teachers were much more honest "I know it is stupid, but there is a program chosen by the Ministry, and we have to do it... I'm sorry."
Yep, i won't have calculator in my pocket (while calculating things in excel)
Shoutout to Mrs. Frisher for taking my calculator off me because I couldn't do times tables at 14. I'm numerically dyslexic, give me back the damn calculator and get off my back.
We should stop stigmatizing people who need to use calculators. Who cares how the answer is found.
The tongue/taste map. Not only useless, but incorrect.
Said it before, will say it again. I'm still peeved about the time in high school when I got points deducted for saying I could taste all the flavors the same on all parts of my tongue. I was made out to be a liar (by a teacher no less, that leaves a big impression on a 13 y/o girl). Teaching what you know for a fact is great, but there should always be some room for discussion and students should never be dismissed just "because the textbook says so"
In elementary school, we were asked to name things that moved fast. Students said cars, airplanes, rockets. I excitedly raised my hand to say Earth. The substitute teacher told me that I was wrong, that the Earth moves slowly and that is why we can't feel it spinning. I still remember stewing in my seat.
Load More Replies...And the five senses - many cultures recognise other senses that we know are there but chose not to include (e.g. sense of balance)
I was looking to see if anyone else had made this comment. Yeah we have FAR more than just five - I don't think there is a concensus yet on the exact number, but I know at the moment it's between 12 and 15. And some of them are just as vitality important to us as the "main five" - like for instance our sense of balance as you mention, or sense of heat entering/leaving our bodies (often mislabelled as temperature) which I always found odd is not mentioned when touch is? 🤔
Load More Replies...What is this tongue/taste map i keep reading about on BP. Wasn't a thing in Australia....at least when i was at school.
I’ll likely get the specifics wrong, but the general gist is that saltiness is detected by the end of the tongue, sweetness is tasted by the back of the tongue, bitterness is tasted on some other part of the tongue, etc.
Load More Replies...In the elementary schools around here, some teachers seem to think the color wheel is science... I dunno, we can't call it art?
The color wheel is science, addition and subtraction of wavelengths. Why do you think it isn't?
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The way the US public school system teaches it, Spanish. You learn it maybe half a year then forget it over the summer. You’d think with years of education we’d be better Spanish speakers but it’s essentially useless the way it’s taught.
And focused on using not just work book modules
Load More Replies...I think the problem is that they jump immediately into rigid grammar and spelling rules, like they do for English class (in the US). But if you don't know the language yet at all, any intuitive grasp you might get is lost trying to learn arcane rules. The first semester or two should be all about developing conventional skills and vocabulary. Perfect grammar can come later.
Rules first! Is how they teach every language in germany
Load More Replies...Four years of Spanish in American schools and I can tell you my name, ask where the bathroom is and wish you a Merry Christmas. The last one is credited to Jose Feliciano.
The primary problem is we, as a society, do not value being multilingual, Haven't you heard "We speak American here." (idiotic statement if there ever was one.) This is why the US is getting its butt kicked in some economic economic. I am very close to a women who teaches and tutors English in Belarus. All students must pass a compulsory English exam to earn their HS diploma. When I've been there, I've never been berated to speak Russian or Belarusian. On the contrary, many people, young and old approached me and my friend when we were talking on the street so they could practice their English. The US needs to get its head out of its behind and stop equating patriotism with nationalism and ignorance.
Actually you need to be immersed in it. Starting at a young age helps but is not required. Whatever is spoken in the living room is what you generally get. I took Spanish in school but no one in the area spoke it so my progress stalled. I moved to a place with a Spanish speaking community and it's made a huge difference. I hear people speak it in stores, at my gym, there's signage I can read, and local radio stations I take advantage of. It's too easy to memorize some words, take a test and forget it in a traditional setting.
Yes immersion is good, but it does not have to be „in your living room“. I was a bad english student in my youth (probably because I was told I should be good because I grew up bilingual). I never really had anyone to speak it with, but when I met my now husband, he got me into english audio books and since then I developed a liking and preferment for the language. I am now better in English, then in my mothers language, which I speak on a regular basis.
Load More Replies...Half a year? OK, wow, I'm old.... you had to do two consecutive years on languages. that said, my teacher was crap, but that was her, not the program, if that makes sense.
I went to two different high schools in two different school districts and my French teacher at the first school was born and raised in France, and she started with a basic foundation of verbs, nouns, adjectives, and—for those of us who were raised in a language that didn’t assign a gender to things like chairs or glasses—how to differentiate the two by their spelling. My second French teacher at the other school was from Argentina and spoke French with an Argentinian accent and emphasized speaking over learning the fundamentals, and I only barely didn’t flunk the class because I did actually know some French. This is the long way of saying I totally understand.
Load More Replies...Every US school should teach Spanish (and maybe teach some classes in Spanish) starting from the beginning. It's beneficial for children to be multilingual, so since English and Spanish are the two most popular languages in the US, they should be taught in every public school. Then starting from middle school children should get to choose a third language.
I took French in college. I needed two semesters of it, but the Language Department decided the semester that would’ve been my second was the time to experiment with scheduling, and have the class at an odd time, which was during my working hours. So, took first semester French in the fall semester, skipped the spring and summer semesters, and the following fall—-8 months later, and after the weird class scheduling experiment crashed and burned, and was abandoned—-I finally got to take that required second semester. I needed the first week or so to get back up to speed, even though I had gone back over the first semester material during the summer.
I did 4 languages in 2 years at high school, 6 months of each. I can still count to ten, but it is using a mixture of all four languages. I can't remember one to ten of each different one. What sticks in my head are the words 'an ice cream' in French (une glace). Happy to know I won't starve if I go there one day.
Was that a requirement or were you simply giving them all a test run?
Load More Replies...i know!!! im in 7th grade and i started spanish last year and like the teachers great and all, but over the summer, i forgot EVERYTHING almost, and the first few weeks were just review. Because they give us no way to practice and NOT forget.
Don't reveal your age online. I don't care how naive you are, there are very bad things that could happen if you do.
Load More Replies...American history. For gawd's sake most americans can't find one other country on the map so why keep navel gazing, why not teach students about other countries, culture, and language? Met some guy in grad school who was doing his thesis on General Hooker's buttons. Why, just why?
All countries teach their own history. This is not an American problem. At least in US we were also taught world history.
In our state that was an elective, not mandatory. Most elected not to.
Load More Replies...Why not teach them the real USA history instead of what past leaders wished it had been?
Politics. Try and teach reality and some snowflake throws a hissy.
Load More Replies...4th grade: State history. 5th grade: US History. 6th grade: World history, 7th grade: State history (more in depth), 8th grade: US history (more in depth), 9th grade: World cultures, 10th grade: no history, 11th grade: US history, 12th grade: US Civics (learn how the govt is supposed to work). Not the greatest, but it gave me a base of knowledge about the rest of the world, the US, and my state (California was my home at the time).
We had Global studies in school and I loved it, it was so fascinating learning about other cultures and countries,but then once we got past 6th grade, they murdered the course and the rest of high-school was American history instead. It was tedious and always boiled down to "war were declared" . I hated those classes.
In Ireland I only did 1 term of Irish history. The rest was world history.
In the cuntry im from, we didn't have history lessons before 4th grade. Before that, it was stuff like where countries are, and those kinds of things.
You need to know the history of your country. However, you shoudl also learn some basic geography and some of the most impüortant events in the world, especially if they influenced your countr, too.
They mostly taught us to ask permission in order to use the bathroom.
I once did this in a meeting as an adult and everyone just stared at me. Conditioning is a hell of a thing. Lol
Load More Replies...Again, it's not about permission to use the bathroom, it's about the fact that it's rude to get up and walk out of the room while someone is talking to you. And also the teacher has to take note of who leaves and if they come back because otherwise the whole class would just disappear "to the bathroom" one at a time and never come back, because... kids.
As an employee at a high school, I can absolutely vouch for this. If a student leaves the room, for any reason, you absolutely need to know that they’re leaving and where they’re going. It’s more of a courtesy.
Load More Replies...Social skills. Asking permission is more polite than just walking out.
School would be absolute chaos if these rules weren't enforced though.
That's true. But it helps if instructors allow for basic body needs though. Kids have higher metabolism and smaller organs. Thus they need to go often compared to the average adult, but should be respectful to the lesson and politely ask permission to use the facilities.
Load More Replies...Imagine that. They taught or reinforced the concept of showing respect. Too bad it's absolutely lost on so much of the population. I can only help but wonder how you'd react if someone simply got up and left the area while you were in the middle of saying something. I'm almost certain that you'd take it as a sign of disrespect to you.
My spanish teacher doesnt let us go unless we say it in Spanish and most of the time she doesnt even let us go.
Even when you need to vomit... I raised my hand, she did not let me talk... Useless to tell : I did not help her clean my mess.
Did half of my schooling in India. Literally, all kids should get up when teacher enters and sing…”good morning miss/sir”. Raise a hand and ask for permission to go to restroom (mostly got denied in my school). While entering a room while the teacher is in, we would raise hand (like a hail hitler sign) and ask permission to come in the class and then ask permission to be seated. This happens even today.
and most of the time they didint let you go the revenge would probably be obvious
I was taught that Columbus knew that the world was round, but everyone else thought it was flat. So, yeah... That.
And the fact that he "discovered" the Americas is ALSO a lie! Complete and utter bovine excrement!
Load More Replies...Oh and add that “historical” fact that he discovered the americas. Discounting that people were already there, but Vikings, Polynesians, Asians, who else landed on the Americas before that…
But I don't remember being taught about his freakishly long fingers
Eratosthenes showed, with proof, that the Earth was round, and nearly 40,000km in circumference. Around 250BCE.
Good old Saint Columbus, bringing knowledge to the old and new world alike. Sigh.
The amount they teach shakespeare. Like, sure once is probably good, not every year grade 9 to 12.
Right?!?! I didn't learn about Jane Austen or even the Bronte sisters until I was in college. Like there are other authors out there!
Load More Replies...I like shakespeare. Just not the way they taught it. It was like they were trying to suck all the fun out of it.
It was a whole new world when I actually watched Shakespeare
Load More Replies...They like to worship old people from past centuries... It makes them feel smart and special.
Shakespeare invented 1,700 English Words. Credit where credit is due.
Its funny, with each point presented, I can see that the school systems probably took out some portions of other more extensive courses and just went with that. Everything a child learns today in schools are just pieces of a whole that used to be taught in a broader presentation. I think this is the heritage of the education system, when you are not sure why you have to learn or do something, it is because they removed the part which makes it make sense.
In 200 years, they'll be teaching Eminem. Shakespeare was entertainment. Brilliant, but entertainment. Not sure why we "teach" things like that in school. I never once, not one single time, was encouraged to read a non-fiction book in school. You know, something that has pure educational value.
As You Like It, Julius Ceasar, Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth and Hamlet. I hated Shakespeare back then, but love it now. It is a lot different when it isn't being shoved down your throat and overanalyzed. Also, I think learning about As You Like It (as opposed to other classes who did Midsummer Nights Dream) really was a better start...it was a comedy and was fun.
Well, he did write rather a lot...you're lucky you didn't get Chaucer, we did.
Yeah, you'd think he's the only good playwright there's ever been. It wouldn't hurt to have some variety in there.
hizzoze said:
That hiding under your desk will keep you safe from bombs and tornadoes. (Yes I know what it's actually for, it's just always been a silly visual.)
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That wasn't the lesson you could have learned.
The real lesson was that people tend to panic, and panicking causes unpredictable and dangerous behavior. When you drill an action that makes a population feel like they have self control over a situation, they will tend to follow that.
Same as with patients and a disease - so often there is conflict between clinician and patient because the clinician will see it as the patient not being able to do anything (medically proven at least) - whereas the patient is looking for some agency, some self control over a situation, even if that is drinking carrot juice or whatever. This helps explain the multitude of holistic medicines and why they are popular - because there is always something you can do (or feel like there is) to have agency in a difficult situation.
As others have said - the lesson wasn't always literally the subject matter/what was being taught.
Yes, always duck and cover when being overtaken by fast flowing lava.
We did this exercise for atomic bombs...teacher would say, at a random time, "Bright flash!!" and we'd have to immediately dive under our desks.
I've always been curious about those drills. Yes, Step #1 is 'dive under your desk' but where does it go from there? What is Step #2? Wait there for 3-6 weeks or until there's a heavy rain to keep the fallout down?
Load More Replies...Well, we went into the basement for nuclear bomb drills—-and were lined up single file all the way up the stairs to the open door on the ground floor of the school. In California, where I went to high school, we also had earthquake drills, where we ducked under our desks. Yeah, that small, flimsy, “pressed sawdust” tops of our desks, the same ones that didn’t have room for our notebooks when they were open, we’re supposed to keep us safe when the building started to pancake on top of us—-even if we were in a classroom on the second floor. Uh-huh. Right.
They wanted us to hide under our desks to feel safe in an enclosed area.
At certain distances this apparently wouldn’t be totally uses in reducing flash burns and injuries from building damage.
Its why we have the TSA. For 20 years we've been taking off our shoes and sending them through an x-ray machine but it makes us feel safe. Its been proven repeatedly that the way they do things would not and does not work. Using undercover agents to test them, the failure rate has averaged out to 95% over the last 10 years. Then there's the TSA PreCheck where for $85, where a 20 year old with no criminal record can be put on the "harmless" list for 5 years so they don't have to go through all that icky screening. Even they admit its ridiculous.
In California, was always taught to duck under your flimsy desk that could probably break with just enough pressure, during an earthquake. Earthquake happens....everyone bails out of the classroom in a few seconds.
That is one of the first things my dad was taught in medical school. He was taught that a patient isn't a "disease" or a "broken bone" but a person with a disease or a broken bone and that each and every individual is different and thus, their reactions to the disease etc., will be different. You TREAT the patient for the disease.
That conduct grades matter. I have a friend whose child got a "needs improvement" conduct grade. WTF is that about? If her 8 year old is causing problems, address it then. Why wait 9 weeks and slip it onto the report card? My friend is also a teacher and completely agreed with me. I got plenty of "unsatisfactory" conduct grades in school and yet I still managed to get a college degree and have a career. Screw that nonsense.
I was graded on "friendliness." I got " unsatisfactory" for several years. Well excuse me for being bullied every day and having major trust issues and social anxiety because of it. Damn positivity project.
Even back in 1966, when I was in first grade. My birthday is in November, and the cutoff was the end of September. My mother had already taught me to read, write, add, and subtract, and my parents knew if they held me back a year, I’d lose interest. So they told the school board I was starting school, come hell or high water. Because the board was reluctant, I had to take a shitload of tests to see if I was ready to start school. Passed them easily, with flying colors. Strike 1: I was 5, not 6. Strike 2: I was already proficient in what the rest of the class was going to learn that year. The teacher started me in the bottom reading group. By the end of the week, she skipped me up to the top reading group. Then put “Does not work well with others” on my very first report card. Well f**k. Maybe if I’d been put with the correct group from the beginning, instead of discriminated against because of my age, I would’ve had a chance to work with others. Once I settled in, I was fine.
Similar start, but my sister did it the year before and my dad was on the school board. I think I took two weeks of kindergarten. I usually got unsatisfactory conduct in elementary; I'm guessing I was teased
Load More Replies...Its part of that now unwritten course you are supposed to learn by being around other children. Citizenship is what they called it. But it was more along the lines of personal interactions and civility.
so i was supposed to thinkt hat my poor social skills grade was important ... hummm i wonder what grade the little darlings teaching me to duck and run got
They don't do it anymore, but back around 2000 in health class we all had to plan a wedding. Like, pair up and budget out a rental space, food, rings, etc.
Looking back: What. The. F@#k?
Maybe the subject matter (a wedding) is a bit skewed, especially if it's repeated, but event planning such as this is a hugely important skill. We did a cookie business - come up with a recipe, work out prices, including overheads and advertising, put forward a business case for a loan (even though in reality it was our parents providing the materials). Then bake and sell and report back how successful we were. To be honest, I would have preferred the wedding planning as I was partnered with someone who could burn water!
But not how to apply for a job, budget and manage expenses, balance a bank account, use credit, shop, buy a home or do taxes.
Sounds like someone thought they could combine the 'fake baby as birth control' concept with an exercise in personal budgeting, and came up with something that accomplished neither goal. Not knocking the general concept - I think schools should do a lot more to teach us how stuff like budgets and student loans work, but the execution on this attempt just makes it vaugely creepy. It wouldn't be hard to fix, either. You just ditch the wedding, with all its skeevy-feeling 'heteronormative sexual abstinence' implications, and say 'okay, you guys are roommates splitting the cost of an apartment and you have to budget for the two of you for a month. Go!'
I definitely prefer your "roommates" approach. Getting paired off for fake weddings could be cringy.
Load More Replies...I actually really like this. It teaches important skills like budgeting and weddings are a big money suck for a lot of people.
I suspect that is home economics - something they didn't even have when I was in high school (1996-2000). It was decided that there was no time left in the curriculum so it was tossed.
We sort of had it in middle school, but it was only a semester, and the way our gifted program worked at that time was that you replaced some or all of the four single-semester classes (home ec, music, art and 'tech ed') with a seminar from the gifted program, so I never had to take it. Or music, or art. Tech ed was pretty good though.
Load More Replies...Sounds potentially useful, actually. Give kids a certain amount of money, let them plan the wedding. Then introduce the "How to buy a home" unit. What's that? Spent too much money on the wedding and don't have enough for that down payment? Life lesson learned!
Well, clearly, they were trying to keep you from getting married too early, by introducing you to economic reality, bridezillas not withstanding.
My biology teacher was supposed to teach us evolution, but had us memorize a bunch of birds in the process?
A pop quiz would be him walking into the classroom with a boombox, hitting play, and he'd play some chirping noises that he recorded himself. He'd ask us to write down the scientific name of the bird. Or he'd show us a drawing of a bird and tell us to write down the common name of it. It was a mix.
But that's it. There wasn't any question about evolution on the quiz at all. It was entirely about memorizing birds.
This was the class that broke me. When we studied the cell, I got a 97 for the semester. When we studied evolution, I felt like a dog jumping through a hoop on command and decided I wasn't going to memorize birds. F@#k you, flunk me.
I would leave the quizzes blank on purpose.
I think we go about teaching science entirely wrong ( in the US) and it is part if what has allowed anti science politics to flourish, from antivaxers to climate change deniers. In my experience of my own education and now seeing my kids "Science" is taught mostly as a collection of facts about the natural world with only occasionally attention paid to the process of how we know these things. I think it needs to be flipped. Science should be mostly about the scientific method. How to design an experiment, how to spot what makes a good experiment and good data. Even just how to understand the language science uses. Most people cant tell you the difference between a hypothesis and a theory.
If this teacher has not been fired, there is something wrong with that school.
My college biology class was taught by someone who had worked at the National Aquarium, because they were a puffin expert. Somehow, they ended up in the small town near me, as a part time biology adjunct at the local community college, which they considered beneath them, plus very very part time (one class) at the nearby university which they considered appropriate for someone of the “stature”. Hmmm, with that winning attitude, you have to wonder why they were no longer the resident puffin expert at the National Aquarium, and “reduced” to teaching us biology, know what I mean? (/s). Anyway, we learned a shitload about puffins that semester…
They were avoiding it because they were creationist, or afraid of the creationists.
Our biology teacher refused to teach evolution - she didn't believe in it!
I grew up in Massachusetts, so maybe this is skewed because of the proximity to early settler and revolutionary war sites, but EVERY year in history, from like 1st grade to 12th, we learned the same stuff on the early settlers to revolutionary war. That would be the majority of all history classes. Yes, it’s very important history (and I do thoroughly enjoy history and that time period in particular) but when it’s all that’s covered and everything else is glossed over, it doesn’t feel like we learned as much as we should have. It was also always taught through rose colored glasses.
They also never taught European History as a precursor to American History...and it not only is a precursor, but absolutely relevant to all American History.
"Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" by James W. Loewen
Grew up in Texas and spent months learning about the Alamo in multiple grades. So useless
Well now the kids can be taught the opposing side of the Alamo... :D. ( Apologize but the new laws really pi..tick me off.)
Load More Replies...Same, only in California it was Father Junipero Serra and the establishment of the missions. I can only hope that if that’s still being taught today it includes the brutality shown to the Native Americans whose land was stolen and then endured a life of poverty for most. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
You were taught white-washed history. They repeat the same lies, gloss over the truth and try to paint CC as hero who discovered America. He was a horrible "person" and should not have a holiday named after him or be respected. He was a POS.
So much more context is required for historical information, its a shame the school boards decide what to cut and what to add.
Some of what I was taught isn't very PC now. Grandma was a teacher. She and mom supplemented what we were taught. Many teachers marked me down, had to prove I was right more than once. Gonna learn history? Learn the good and the bad, otherwise you learned nothing
Do Americans learn a lot about other countries in History class, or mostly America? (Genuine curiosity, don’t eat me!)
In my experience I learned very little about world history that wasn't somehow related to American history. I remember learning a lit about Europe in the classical period (Roman empire ect) and medieval europe through the industrial revolution. Then we learned a but about Eupopean explorers/ colonizers ( through very rose colored lenses.) We also covered World War II several times. Like this op I grew up in the same part if the country and covered the revolutionary war era over and over, also the early colonists and the myth of the Pilgrims first Thanksgiving.
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They taught competitive cup stacking in my elementary school. Still have no idea why. This was in central Canada, but clearly it was widespread across a lot of North America.
That was my favorite P.E. unit in fourth grade! My school was middle of nowhere California and we didn't even have a real P.E. program or teachers.
Where nowhere California? I now live in Fort Bragg, Mendocino County, but I was born in the Bay Area and spent most of my life there.
Load More Replies...Wasn't it a fad for a while? So the school was trying to include an activity that the children were motivated to try and succeed at and that had benefits (maybe hand eye coordination, rapid problem solving, and so on)
hmmm thank God, my elementary school teacher was more interested in competitive road safety! I do believe i scored a 2nd place. I remember i particurlarly enjoyed hand gestures for traffic - saw only once in reality in my whole 30+ years...
Hi, language teacher in the uk.
This is more what they don't teach but....
They often teach the rise of the British empire but seldom about the fall. Which leads students with a very British centric approach to a lot of their studies. I'm aware of this in languages but I've seen this in history, RE and even English language. I'm not blaming the teachers or the students, the curriculum is f!@#$d. But as a result from this I hear way too often "learning X language is pointless, everyone speaks English!"
Not everyone speaks English! I went to Kiev where “everyone speaks English” - thank GOD I did my research and learned to read Cyrillic and speak basic Russian, I would have ruined my own trip if I’d just assumed I’d be accommodated because I’m North American.
I was planning a trip to Greece and was fortunate that there was a girl in one of my classes whose parents came to the U.S. from Greece, so she was able to give me the modern pronunciation of Greek since language books tend to only teach Classical Greek, and this was enormously helpful.
Load More Replies...I think historically, the freeing of the last large colonies in the mid 20th century is consider as the fall of the British empire as an empire...the same goes for the French and Belgians...you know because now they are all about "democracy" now...and getting rich buy keeping poor countries poor, but we don't talk about that
British here too. I hate the fact we were taught about Britain's involvement and continuation of the slave trade (but not in much detail) but they completely "forgot" to mention at all how Britain also went on to END the slave trade - by force - between the US and Africa. To be honest, when I was in school pretty much anything negative Britain has ever done was just not taught. They were too focused once we reached Secondary school on teaching nothing but WW2 history - so much in fact we spent almost as long as the war actually took learning about it. I'm not against learning about that war, but the fact there have been many wars since, that are just not mentioned let alone taught, irks me to no end. Might as well call it "WW2 Studies" rather than "History".
Apparently not everyone understands the context what an "Empire" really is compared to the nations we have today.
Having taken French, Spanish and Latin in school, I too found them unnecessary as everyone I met wanted to practice their English more than I wanted to practice their language. I worked in Switzerland for a short while and could order a meal from a menu that was in French, German and Italian, using a little of each language.
It's called Ethnocentrism. Every country thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Tower of babel is always going to repeat it's self. All what to feel their self worth more so then that of the Sun. Dream a top a cloud, for the proud are loud and silent with regret but those with have been without and those without spout. Best know who you are before asking a star am I god.
For me it was social studies, specifically politics that only really focuses on the 50s-70s and ignores everything else and tries to use the period of time where people literally couldn't lose money on anything and use it to justify trickle down economics of today's society as a good blueprint for running a country.
I'm too old for this, but I can totally see how this would work. "Oh, see that nice way it worked that we totally skewed for our trickle-down economic fantasy?"
If they're teaching trickle down economics in your school, you're probably in a red state ... where you're also being forced to learn Christian history and that Holocaust was not a bad thing. Basically, training you to be a good Jihadist for the American ISIS
The Belief: The idea behind trickle-down economics is simple: cut taxes for the richest and the benefits will trickle down. These policies should enable wealthy owners to create more jobs for middle and lower class citizens, meaning the benefits are felt by everyone. The Reality: Trickle-down doesn't work because lower taxes on the wealthy doesn't create more employment, consumer spending or regained revenue. Income inequality has reached its highest point in 50 years, and money keeps accumulating at the top.
The 50s to the 70s were the periods when the country raised wages, busted monopolies (AT&T) and invested in infrastructure and scientific advances. The economy boomed from building the Interstate highway and the space program, which required much advancement in electronics miniaturization. That gave rise to weather and communication satellites, cell phones and more. Those times were the antithesis of "trickle down economics. The national debt grew, but sower than GDP and was down to 30% of GDP by 1980. Then came Ronald Reagan and the debt grew faster than GDP through today (except for one year when Bill Clinton was president and two years under Obama.)
The OP didn't say those times were not important. Everything else aside, they should cover more than 2 decades.
Load More Replies...How to say and spell antidisestablishmentarianism.
But it's used so commonly that everyone can say it and know the meaning.
Load More Replies...My husband annoys me with that word far too often. Why, public school? Whyyy?
dyslexic people be like : mmmmmhmmm yup i understand yup mhmmm uhu yup yes of course mmhm obviously yes that.
Child's play compared to the longest word used by Shakespeare - honorificabilitudinitatibus, which apparently means "the state of being laden with honours". I can honestly say that I've never had the opportunity to use it
I ♥️♥️♥️ Black Adder so much—especially the middle two. Well, my job here is done..l bet I could find Black Adder on YouTube or Netflix!
Load More Replies...I was in excel for years and for fun in 5th grade we learned pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis… yeah we were weird. But to this day I still remember how to pronounce, and spell it along with the definition. It’s just a fun random fact I know
Sounds like a teacher who had a great sense of humor and disregard for whatever curriculum that was required.
I have no idea what this comment means, but I love it!
Load More Replies...My 1st grade teacher told us if you go outside and stand really still, you can feel the earth rotating...
It seems that the Teacher needs a timeout, so "Go outside and stand still for 10 minutes!" Lol.
Load More Replies...Have you ever tried to keep 24 6-7 year old kids semi quiet and in the same area while outside, with no help? This is how you do it!
Sounds like a teacher who took 'harmlessly screw with the children' just a bit too far. Or just wanted an easy way to get a bunch of first graders to stand still.
Yes, you can, look at the sun moving and the shades changing. Basic. Eratosthenes’ -famous and yet simple- earliest known calculation of the circumference of the Earth relied on measuring the different lengths of shadows cast by poles stuck vertically into the ground, at midday on the summer solstice, at different latitude
My first grade teacher told us that we could drown in a teaspoon of water. I constantly had the image of a gigantic teaspoon and a tiny little me drowning in it.
I can imagine teachers are on a lot of drugs, mostly antidepressants. Or alcohol, in case of gym teachers.
Three simple words... "Five paragraph essays." English being the only class that is/was required during all four years of high school, we had it constantly drilled into our heads that it was the only way to submit short papers and that we would need to perfect the application if we wanted to succeed in collage. First day of Comm 101 in collage while the professor was going over the syllabus, and that everything needed to be submitted in MLS format, someone asked what MLS was. The professor stopped, "Let me say this to all of you that graduated high school last year and are just starting your collegiate lives... if ANYONE turns in a paper in five paragraph format you will fail the assignment." Found out from everyone I knew that was taking other professors for English or Communication classes that they got told the same thing.
MLA is guidelines for research papers. How you do anything in proper format for formal english writing, from what I recall. I still have the handbook.
Load More Replies...This is nonsense. MLS and the five paragraph essay format aren't the same sport. The idea of writing with an introduction and thesis, followed by evidence, followed by a conclusion is good training for writing coherently and for just understanding things in general.
No... they in *collage*. Lots of little pictures glued together.
Load More Replies...The U.S. pays garbage wages for teachers and so have a huge population of relatively incompetent people doing it, mixed with some few angels in human form who sacrifice themselves for the job. But overall, end up with incompetent curriculums and teaching. Because we don't want rich people to help support the society that makes them rich in any way.
I took the test for teachers in Texas (has it been 20 yrs? Oof) and am shocked that the others said it was too hard. I finished and reviewed my work in an hour (we had 4), and found one error. It was basically multiple choice, write three different notes to parents.
Load More Replies...As soon as I was in 10th grade my teacher told us to forget the 5 paragraph essay, and taught us how to find our own preferred writing style, for academic and creative writing.
Nice...a teacher who actually taught something intensely useful.
Load More Replies...The 5 paragraph essay is essentially a way to learn how to open a discussion/argument, support it with multiple examples and sources, then close it properly. The problem is it's taught as the ONLY way to do this. I'll tell you my senior capstone paper followed that flow, but it was more like 26 pages. This was for undergrad. Please, high school teachers, tell me how I would've gotten through this study with 5 paragraphs
The way I was taught 5 paragraph format though it made a lot of sense. 1st paragraph was your proposal/thesis statement/opening; next 3 were your main proofs/evidence/ points of discussion; 5th paragraph was your conclusion.
As a teacher, I use the 5 paragraph essay as training for writing longer research papers. While the 5 paragraph essay is very basic it gets a student ready to organize and write much more complex papers. The 5 paragraph essay has a place in college for essay questions in others classes like sociology or western civilization. This week our first research paper is due and I am excited to read what they have written.
One way is a gift. If you go to work where written communication is important you will have to master; one sentence, one paragraph, proposals, rfp, rfq, ppt, etc........... Many people can't write effectively, and many leaders ask for things in writing. Learn as soon as you can.
Yeah, but college English 101 and 102 teachers shouldn’t talk, because they do the same damn thing for non-English majors. We were taught MLS constantly, but APA, which is used in all other majors, got a quick 15 minute skim over on the last day in class. Like an afterthought. Chicago/Turabian wasn’t even mentioned. I was a social sciences major, and used APA almost exclusively, except for profs who preferred Chicago/Turabian.
My secondary school made us all take religion up to GCSE level, that was so f!@#$%g pointless especially when you had limited choices on what subjects you could take.
We had this until form 3...every Tuesday afternoon. We would split into different groups. For primary school, everyday 8am to 9am.
When my children were at school (2000) I questioned this, was told it was a legal requirement so they had no choice. Found out later it wasn't !! Only positive was they learnt about other religions and the differences in how they affected their lives.
In 12 years of Catholic school, the only part of religious education that I found interesting was the single semester elective class "World Religions." I probably learned more useful and relatable information in that class than in all the others I had to take.
Load More Replies...I went to a Catholic secondary school so it was kind of a given that we did RE lol. However, my gripe was that we never learnt about other religions, not even as a contrast, so sadly, my knowledge is rather limited.
Memorizing the specific names for groups of animals (gander of geese, murder of crows, etc.)
I knew some ESL friends that had to memorize them for English classes.
These sorts of idioms are helpful in an ESL sense. It's a little troubling to hear 'murder' outside of the context of actual killing, better to know that it has more than one meaning.
It's important to know this so that you have the answers when your kids are in school and ask you for help with their homework. (This is a joke if anyone is confused)
Agreed. The fact that I know it's called a "murder of crows" has not served me in any way. I still hold out hope that it may come up in a trivia contest. So much of it does not make sense. I think we should allow creativity. A "squishy" of worms or a "ploppy" of frogs. If any of those happen to be correct, please accept my apologies for my ignorance.
I remember reading in "After Worlds Collide" that the scientists who survived and were part of the "new settlers" on a "new world" that they were not going to use the old Latin terms for classification: just colloquial English. After all, on of them explained that the "Latin term for skunk was translated as Stinkiest of the Stinky." I don't know if it is true, but it always stuck with me, even after 50 years.
We were living in south Jersey at the time the Eagles went to the super bowl in 2004. And my elementary school taught us the eagles fight song. Had a whole school assembly by grade level to teach us the Philadelphia Eagles fight song and we weren’t dismissed til we all knew it.
So funny how NJ is such a small state but like 2 different countries! We northerners like New York teams... southerners like Philly ones. Two different accents, opposing politics, fighting over subs vs. hoagies, Taylor Ham vs. pork roll, whether central Jersey even exists... just one big messed-up family. lol
I still have yet to encounter algebra in the real world despite my math teacher’s insistence that it would be something I’d use every day. Coming up on my tenth anniversary of the last time I’ve even seen an algebraic equation let alone use one.
If you've ever had an amount of cash or in your account and tried to figure out how much you could buy with it, congrats, algebra.
Or, knowing how far away a place was from you, and how fast you’d go on average, figure out approximately how long it would take you to get there. You know, time, speed, and distance?
Load More Replies...Have you ever taken out a loan? Did you pay that exact amount back, or more? You may not have bothered to notice, but you've had algebra in your life.
If they bothered to explain it this way, I might have understood it.
Load More Replies...I think we feel this way because they taught us formulas and that was it. There was nothing about how it was used in the real world
I think it was the word problems. No one says well Bob has two more apples than Joe and Joe has twice as many as Jill..... how may apple do they have? No we just ask How many apples do you have to each We don't want to do the math.
Load More Replies...I loved algebra and am considering taking it again now that my last math class was 50 years ago. I think it helps train your brain to figure things out.
it absolutely does! great brain exercises. I hated algebra, but LOVED geometry and trigonometry
Load More Replies...We really do use algebra a lot more than most people realize. Some of it you do in your head.
I have actually started needing basic algebra recently. My dr put me on a calorie controlled diet and a lot of liquid foods (sauces, condiments, some yogurts etc) and drinks are in cals/100ml or something, but the weight in grams is present on the packet/bottle etc so I have to re-calculate for cals/100g. I'm surprised I remembered how to do it!
Algebra indirectly taught me how get a lot out of excel. So it could be argued that I use it daily.
The problem is not using practical examples in math. Which of course is difficult when teaching young students who have no life experience...and it seems more often these days, are absolutely sheltered by their parents from having any experiences or responsibilities.
We had to sift through owl pellets (aka owl puke) to find and reassemble shrew skeletons. I guess if I’m ever called on to identify a shrew mandible, I will delete this post.
That’s real science though. It’s probably super boring, but that’s what scientists actually do. So at least you learned you don’t want to be a wildlife biologist. 🤷🏻♀️
I did it with elementary students and they had a blast. More finding and identifying bones than reassembly, though.
Load More Replies...I loved that! I had so much fun looking for things that the owl ate. It was really interesting.
I had to do this too! 9th grade Biology. It seems pointless now, but at the time it was a fun experiment. More of a lesson of working with a partner than anything else.
I remember doing this as well as squids, earthworms, frogs, and piglets. Very interesting stuff
According to my son, apparently everything...
Your son needs a teacher who’s really committed to conveying the excitement of whatever subject is being taught.
Ac6tually, your son is correct. You now have "education majors" teaching your kids. They have NO knowledge of what they are teaching as they only have to have a minor in the subject they will be teaching. I have a Ph.D in History, a master's in history, a BA in history, a BA in Russian language, I have written a book and several articles and taught both American History and Russian History at the college level yet I am not considered "competent" to teach History to high school students. But someone with an education "degree" and 18 hours in first and second year history IS considered competent to teach history.
Sometimes that's an age, though. They want to get some power or control back from the situation, so they talk about how it's 'lame' or 'pointless'.
Cursive. I have never used it outside of signing my name.
Funny. Everyone I know write in cursive. It's just the standard way of writing. And I have lived in different countries. Belgium, France, Greece, Sweden... Cursive every time.
Same here but with a different country list. My daughter is 6 and learning to write cursive and I never thought of it as useless.
Load More Replies...It's just another way of writing. It isn't necessarily useful to write that specific way. As long as you write and it's legible that's what matters. Plain script is just fine, I'll say better because it is more readable than cursive. It's not really a big issue as long as you write clearly.
Load More Replies...I didn't even realize how much I use cursive. I have sort of a 50/50 blend.
Yeah, me too. It looks funny but is easy to read for all.
Load More Replies...Gonna have to disagree with you there. I use it all the time. BUT I found out that if I ever want to write in such a way as to keep a secret from people younger than myself, write in cursive. Now THAT is a useful tool.
I still write in cursive and I was taught it in the 90's. It's a lot quicker for me.
Cursive is much faster and all of my schoolwork has to be completed in it. I rarely even write in print anymore
MLA formatting
Uuuugh MLA formatting. What is their obsession with this? Where, outside of academia, is this really useful?
Just wait till college and one professor demands MLA, while another requires APA, and yet another wants some version of Chicago style. And if yout ake engineering classes, well welcome to IEEE style
Just wait til you get to university. If you take an English class and get one dot or comma or space wrong, depending on the prof, you cold fail the assignment and even get kicked out of school for plagiarism. I had a friend fail an assignment and get kicked out of a class for using the previous year's MLA style for in text citations.
UnlicencedAccountant said: I before E, except after C. SICRA14 responded: Now off to s*cie*nce class LuigiTheMaster also responded: With Mr. *Kei*th
I before E except after C and when sounding like A as in neighbor and weigh and on weekends and holidays and all throughout May and you're always gonna be wrong no matter WHATCHU SAY
You're my new best friend! Brian Regan is awesome
Load More Replies...The guideline (NOT rule) fits better as "I before E except after C when the sound is of eee."
I before e except after c or if it says I or a as in Einstein or weigh. Soooo… except when your foreign neighbor Keith receives eight counterfeit beige sleighs from feisty caffeinated weightlifters. (From a mug)
Ok after reading multiple times it sorta does, but it seems it is from a discussion... Needs to be reformatted.
Load More Replies...Why aren't financial literacy and self defence on the curriculum? Much more useful than trigonometry or hockey.
But trig applies to so many fields! Astronomy, geography, satellite navigation, computer music, chemistry, medical imaging, electronics, electrical engineering, civil engineering, architecture, mechanical engineering, oceanography, seismology, phonetics, image compression, game development, the list goes on. I used it in both of the tech jobs I had.
Load More Replies...One thing I've understood about schooling in hindsight is a LOT of it is just teaching you how to pass exams. The emphasis seems to be on learning chucks of information that can be parroted back based in an established testing curriculum rather than imparting the knowledge AND methods for problem solving in a real application of learned information. Does that make sense (just read it back myself and I'm not sure but I hope you're getting what I mean)
We may never use some of the things we learned in school but having the knowledge expands our minds.
When I was a kid we had to learn the capital cities of almost every country because it might come up on the common entrance exam. Not only have I happily forgotten most of them but also most of them are now obsolete. Capital of East Germany anyone? East Berlin by the way, west Germany was Bonn. Now only useful in TV game shows.
I remember having to learn all the European capitals too, and also noticed how many no longer exist.
Load More Replies...A good portion of schooling is making you figure out HOW to learn, HOW to memorize, HOW to think. Unfortunately, they do a crappy job of explaining that to you. But memorizing capital cities isn't important because you need to know the capitals, it is important because you will need to memorize things in life (for your job or whatever), and learning HOW to memorize things is a skill you will need. Also learning forces you to think (in theory), and practicing thinking makes your brain more efficient in general.
They didn't TEACH HOW to learn the capitals just that we needed to KNOW them for THE TEST.
Load More Replies...Wait, i got stuck in the reddit thing. There are people out there, that have to DANCE to graduate? Maybe i got something wrong, because it is 3am here and i should sleep.
I actually read a story about that, apparently it was started by some dud who didn’t like jazz and had a lot of influence in schools, so he had them all teach square dancing so kids wouldn’t get into jazz. Dumb idea, I know. I do like square dancing, though.
Load More Replies...I don't know about other countries, but here in the USA each state's governing body decides the curriculum and what students need to be taught. Schools are TOLD what to teach, we are TOLD to give standardized tests, we HAVE to do these things because the government tells us to. To the person who angrily says "I wasn't taught x subject in school, I got ripped off": yeah, you were. You were too busy scrolling through your phone or talking.
This is less about what people learned, and more about what they didn't.
Kids aren't even taught how to deal with minor medical emergencies because schools are brainwashed into thinking that they'll get sued for doling out medical advice without a license. But the worst offender is the (Gaussian) Bell Curve:, as in, ''If you're in the top percentile, you've got to be good''. I had a student from China break down in tears because she had studied English pronunciation back home for ten years only to discover that none of her Canadian co-workers had any idea what she was talking about.
What about diagramming sentences? All those crazy lines. What was that about?
Learning parts of speech. The diagrams are kinda worthless but knowing what is a noun, verb, adverb, adjective etc and their place in sentences is useful
Load More Replies...Why aren't financial literacy and self defence on the curriculum? Much more useful than trigonometry or hockey.
But trig applies to so many fields! Astronomy, geography, satellite navigation, computer music, chemistry, medical imaging, electronics, electrical engineering, civil engineering, architecture, mechanical engineering, oceanography, seismology, phonetics, image compression, game development, the list goes on. I used it in both of the tech jobs I had.
Load More Replies...One thing I've understood about schooling in hindsight is a LOT of it is just teaching you how to pass exams. The emphasis seems to be on learning chucks of information that can be parroted back based in an established testing curriculum rather than imparting the knowledge AND methods for problem solving in a real application of learned information. Does that make sense (just read it back myself and I'm not sure but I hope you're getting what I mean)
We may never use some of the things we learned in school but having the knowledge expands our minds.
When I was a kid we had to learn the capital cities of almost every country because it might come up on the common entrance exam. Not only have I happily forgotten most of them but also most of them are now obsolete. Capital of East Germany anyone? East Berlin by the way, west Germany was Bonn. Now only useful in TV game shows.
I remember having to learn all the European capitals too, and also noticed how many no longer exist.
Load More Replies...A good portion of schooling is making you figure out HOW to learn, HOW to memorize, HOW to think. Unfortunately, they do a crappy job of explaining that to you. But memorizing capital cities isn't important because you need to know the capitals, it is important because you will need to memorize things in life (for your job or whatever), and learning HOW to memorize things is a skill you will need. Also learning forces you to think (in theory), and practicing thinking makes your brain more efficient in general.
They didn't TEACH HOW to learn the capitals just that we needed to KNOW them for THE TEST.
Load More Replies...Wait, i got stuck in the reddit thing. There are people out there, that have to DANCE to graduate? Maybe i got something wrong, because it is 3am here and i should sleep.
I actually read a story about that, apparently it was started by some dud who didn’t like jazz and had a lot of influence in schools, so he had them all teach square dancing so kids wouldn’t get into jazz. Dumb idea, I know. I do like square dancing, though.
Load More Replies...I don't know about other countries, but here in the USA each state's governing body decides the curriculum and what students need to be taught. Schools are TOLD what to teach, we are TOLD to give standardized tests, we HAVE to do these things because the government tells us to. To the person who angrily says "I wasn't taught x subject in school, I got ripped off": yeah, you were. You were too busy scrolling through your phone or talking.
This is less about what people learned, and more about what they didn't.
Kids aren't even taught how to deal with minor medical emergencies because schools are brainwashed into thinking that they'll get sued for doling out medical advice without a license. But the worst offender is the (Gaussian) Bell Curve:, as in, ''If you're in the top percentile, you've got to be good''. I had a student from China break down in tears because she had studied English pronunciation back home for ten years only to discover that none of her Canadian co-workers had any idea what she was talking about.
What about diagramming sentences? All those crazy lines. What was that about?
Learning parts of speech. The diagrams are kinda worthless but knowing what is a noun, verb, adverb, adjective etc and their place in sentences is useful
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