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Imagine a new illness suddenly pops up. Doctors have never dealt with it. It spreads like wildfire. It disrupts daily life. Panic sets in, shops close, hospitals are packed to capacity. Bodies are piling up. It might sound familiar. But we’re not talking about Covid. The Black Death left at least 25 million people dead long before coronavirus struck.
It was at its worst between 1347-1352. And was blamed on anything from the wrath of God, to the work of the devil, to the planets and even "bad air". Health professionals only discovered in 1894 that it was actually the work of bacteria. Carried mainly by fleas on rats. The suspected causes were bizarre. The treatments even more so.
Bored Panda came across this thread from the Creepy.org "X" account. It details, in pictures, some of the most bizarre medical practices from back in the day. Keep scrolling for a creepy and sometimes cruel look at historical "science". And be thankful you live in an era where you can pop a pill for pain. Instead of undergoing some of the procedures featured here.
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Francine Oglethorpe 1 year ago
My daughter needed a chest xray. I was pregnant and couldn't hold her or be with her. She was crying. Another employee of the hospital came over and offered to hold her. It was the best feeling.
Lou Cam 1 year ago
In the UK they just give the parent a lead vest and ask them to hold. I done it once and my husband one when I was pregnant and not allowed in the x ray area.
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Stephanie Barr 1 year ago
Better than what my daughter had, which was a tiny bicycle seat and a tube that held her in place with her arms over head while she screamed and screamed.
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ninjaTrashPandaBoom 1 year ago
And why we have almost eradicated polio on this planet.
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Santrikea 1 year ago (edited)
The last survivor of polio, that lived almost his entire life in an iron lung, died this past March (2024). He was in it since he was six (1952). Paul Alexander 1946-2024
cerinamroth 1 year ago
There was a very inspiring article in the Guardian about him. What a man. What a life, despite the odds. But what suffering. Anyone who doubts the importance of vaccines should have had a few minutes talking to him.
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Skogsrået 1 year ago
Read this too, people can't get needed healthcare nore vaccinations.
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Binky Melnik 1 year ago (edited)
And “no thank you” to the anti-vax fools who’re bringing it back. I have a feeling they have NO clue what polio, whooping cough, and other terrifying diseases are like. If they knew that most would rather die than endure that kinda suffering, perhaps they might wanna try to save their kids. And to the fool here who says the COVID vaccine doesn’t work: I’m old and surrounded by old people, have asthma, eat a poor diet, and am out of shape, and yet I’ve not had COVID yet. I keep up with my vaccines and boosters.
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Edith 1 year ago
Does anyone know if they have to stay like 100% of the time in there? Or they can have a little walk, exercise.. ?
Emma London 1 year ago
When the machine was invented it was the only artificial lung available. If the polio paralysis reached your chest, this was the only thing keeping you alive, as you survived only a few minutes without. Thankfully many surviving polio patients rehabilitated out of the machine and continued their lives with less severe conditions like troubles in walking. Some were stuck in the machine (and later with smaller machines) for life. But yes, when you needed the machine, you were 100% stuck, on your back, and unable to move, the suction of the machine being the only thing that made your lungs to take in air...
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liz MacClain 1 year ago
My mom tells stories about polio and the quarantines and how as a kid they would hold their breath as they ran past homes in her neighborhood because they were quarantined for polio
Thanos'Fingers 1 year ago (edited)
And they can fit under your shirt... Surprise surprise, technology evolves and people aren't stuck in a giant tube of metal for life anymore. Although you don't seem to have noticed, the world continues turning around you.
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Multa Nocte 1 year ago
The sad thing is that most of these bizarre practices were actually thought at some point in time to be potentially helpful, as bizarre/terrifying as they look to us today. It is only be the continued evaluation of practices such as these that we are finding out what works and what doesn't and what is compassionate and what is not. As a clinical psychologist I am worried that someone will look back on what I have done in my practice and have the same dismay at what I have been doing as we have at looking at this. 🥺
Lou Cam 1 year ago
These "treatments"only worked by scaring the patient into hiding their symptoms. For instance not mentioning hallucinations are happening. It's did not and does not treat anything. There's evidence that a lot of the older antipsychotic d***s work in this way too. The side effects are so nasty that people claim complete cure until of course they are released, stop taking the d***s and "relapse" because their chemical straightjacket is off.
Mark Fuller 1 year ago
I dunno. If we did this to Tik Tok morons and influencers, would it be an adequate deterrent?
Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My! 1 year ago
In prison, if an inmate is suicidal, they are stripped naked, given a thing that resembles a bullet-proof vest to wear, removed from the population, and stared at for three days. They are given nothing to do, and no counseling. This is because the suicidal person is threatening to destroy government property (themselves), and they must be punished.
Before we knew what we know now, doctors didn’t really understand why people got sick. Germs? What’s that? Surgeons went straight from an autopsy to an operating table. No hand washing needed. Medical “professionals” believed the body was made up of four liquids, or "humors": yellow bile, phlegm, black bile, and blood. Any imbalance between these would cause illness. Whether physical or mental. Or so they thought. Because of this, a lot of the go-to treatments in the Middle Ages involved draining fluids to bring everything back in check. We’re talking forced bleeding, cupping and leeching. Medicine was a guessing game. Not a science.
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Multa Nocte 1 year ago
To think that people understood this 100 years ago and that we still have people who think this is a bad idea . . .
H Wiley 1 year ago
They didnt. They still had posters and other things to remind people. The difference was that people were more inclined to go with " the needs of the manyy outweigh the needs of the few". Sacrifice was even considered patriotic during the wars. Then the narative was " the majority shouldnt tread on individual rights". The republic part of our democracy ( people have inalienable rights). And it did help with acceptance of marginalised people, which was great. nfortunately some people took it as " everything i do is my right" and the " greater good" got lost. "I did my part" got replaced by " I got mine. "
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Magenta Blu 1 year ago
Almost the same gear pandemic emergency personal used. Nothing rare really
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Sara Larca 1 year ago
Most of those women probably just got stuck in there because they wanted to go to college or get jobs ... or didn't want to get married ..
Daniela Lavanza 1 year ago
Not frightening, I'd even say it was a rather good idea: make people practice art and sport could maybe help them escape their dark thoughts for a while.
Auntriarch 1 year ago
Nothing at all, it's probably a good therapy. Probably just the usual case of stupid titles on Bored Panda
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Zaach 1 year ago
There is a film "The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade" - there were bleachers set up outside the bars for wealthy folks to watch. There were nuns with clubs to keep control of the inmates
Nikole 1 year ago
In the movie Quills (which people seem to have forgotten about, but it’s quite good), Geoffrey Rush plays the Marquis and has his fellow inmates at the asylum put on one of his plays. I had no idea it actually happened though… Thanks for this!
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Michael Largey 1 year ago (edited)
Dancing with me has never been a cure for insanity, but often a cause.
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So you can imagine the chaos that came when the world was hit with the Black Death pandemic in the 13th century. As this research paper states, “Healthy people panicked and did all they could to avoid the sick. Doctors refused to see patients; priests refused to administer last rites. Shopkeepers closed stores. Many people fled the cities for the countryside, but even there they could not escape the disease – it affected cows, sheep, goats, pigs, and chickens, as well as people. And many people, desperate to save themselves, even abandoned their sick and dying loved ones.”
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🇫🇮 Goth Nurse 🇫🇮 1 year ago
I didn't understand the latter part of your comment
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Debbie 1 year ago
I don't think this is that creepy. It sounds logical - correcting the growth of the spine by not putting weight on it and keeping it under straight tension while growing. What else could you do without surgery?
keyboardtek 1 year ago
Traction is effective for scoliosis. This was just a crude traction device.
Linda Miller 1 year ago
We (I) used a fairly similar set up in the 70's, 80's and 90's for back pain. The difference was you were flat on your back in bed and weights were used to take stress off the spine and relieve pain.
Ozymandias73 1 year ago
Houdini"s daughter? jk But on a serious note, I can see the idea but the practicality just can't be that great. I'm sure it caused more problems than solutions.
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DEW 1 year ago
I wear my mask whenever I go out. I wear them at my doctors office or the store etc..I get looks but nobody says anything to me about it. I have enjoyed not having a cold, flu, or the one that makes you puke the Norwalk flu or something. I'm usually the only one but that's fine with me. I just would like know when it was okay to cough in peoples faces or food? If you did it before Covid you would get decked. But since Covid came out suddenly it became a thing to cough on people and food. I don't get it.
ninjaTrashPandaBoom 1 year ago
Covid is now likely to be endemic, so we will be dealing with it as a population every year like the flu. Hopefully, the conspiracy theorists will *go away* one way or another and some sanity will return on how to properly address this virus.
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Leoninus Fate 1 year ago
I have SPINAL FLUID that drains from my nose, so it's always "drooling" but it is NOT SNOT at all, so I have to keep blowing it and wipe it and you know people look at me thinking it is that 100% of the time when it is just SPINAL FLUID.....Not SNOT.... kind of wish I had something like this in my nose to suck it {i know there's stuff to deal with it, Im doing it}
Around October 1347, 12 ships docked in Europe. The vessels had come via the Black Sea. There was much excitement. Crowds flocked to welcome them. But something wasn’t right. Most of the sailors on board were dead. The surviving ones? Almost dead. They had fever, fatigue, and headaches. They were in pain. Shivering, vomiting, and delirious. Most mysterious though, they were covered in weeping black wounds. An unseen symptom of sickness. Until then.
The “death ships” were quickly ushered out of the port. But it was too little too late. The Black Death had arrived. And it would be a while before it left. The plague spread through Europe over the next couple of years. Leaving almost a third of the continent dead. It sporadically popped up a few times after that again.
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Pollywog 1 year ago
Dude looks like he has shell shock. Probably used on a lot of those poor men.
Lou Cam 1 year ago
And the sad part is it if worked the men had a gun pressed in their hands and shipped right back to the front line.
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keyboardtek 1 year ago (edited)
Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard went through electroshock therapy. Today, Scientology has been in a battle to put out of business the few companies that manufacture the machines to do electroshock therapy. It is still an effective, now a safe, therapy for some mental disorders such as chronic depression that does not respond to any other therapy.
Huddo's sister 1 year ago
Electric treatment was tried for a lot of things early on, often because doctors wanted to cash in on the discoveries. Most proved ineffective.
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Lauren Caswell 1 year ago
'oe' can be used in place of the umlaut over the o (ö)
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Doctors were desperate to stop the pandemic. They tried every possible cure and prevention. From bloodletting – which is draining blood – to firing guns into the air. Bloodletting was considered the beast of all treatments back then. People truly believed it could cure just about anything. Epilepsy? Check. Mental illness? Check. Cancer? Check? Menstruation. 100%
But all it often did was make people weaker. Or even more ill. Not surprising that some patients died from blood loss. The sinister practice dates back to Ancient Egypt. Sharp thorns or animal teeth were once used. But later, there were knives or lancets involved. Basically, anything sharp enough would do. Because the point was to drain the sick person’s blood into a bowl, and bring their humors back into balance. Before (hopefully) stopping the bleeding.
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Santrikea 1 year ago
Basically the same as a CT. Both CT & MRI scanners look almost the same except they're full tube's our body slides into.
martin734 1 year ago (edited)
Not really, MRI and CT are imaging devices. This was an early version of radiotherapy.
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Wingsofwrath 1 year ago
And as someone who finished radiotherapy mere weeks ago, it still looks like that, although, mercifully, the radiation source in modern machines is an electron tube, not cobalt. Just google "Varian True Beam". Also, the small round thing is the radiation source, the large tray thing is the radiation backstop.
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H Wiley 1 year ago
I have autoimmune that restricts the blood flow to my exrremeties. The lack of blood flow has killed nerves, so my left foot is half numb and i can only move my big toes ( not the littke ones). I would go for this treatment.
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There were other ways to drain blood that didn’t involve slicing the skin with a sharp object. People called on nature back then. In particular, leeches. Little blood sucking parasites. And lots of them at once. LabCE explains it like this: “Leeches could be directed toward the inflamed area. For example, the leeches could be placed on the trachea if the patient suffered from bronchitis or on the ear for an earache. Common practice was to place 20 or more leeches on adult patients.” Unfortunately, sometimes people would lose too much blood or they’d contract an infection and get scarring.
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David 1 year ago
Imagine having to strip, then endure a torso cast for weeks, only to remove it and (I assume) find out it didn't work and you went through all that for nothing and probably paid money for it.
Susan Reid Smith 1 year ago
The cast was a primitive kind of brace. As we learn more braces are often less bulky. Look up the Milwaukee Brace for scoliosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_brace
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Andy Cran 1 year ago
I can hear the tones of Ludwig van serenading in the background 😁
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"Disembodied voice" 1 year ago
Not that strong but I have a "sun light", because SAD is awful.
Annik Perrot 1 year ago
I think at the time it was mostly used against the rickets, or rachitism. Not enough sun rays, not enough vitamin D to fix the calcium in the bones.
Multa Nocte 1 year ago
This is a perfect example of a technique that on the surface looks bizarre but actually has real life positive results.
Broadredpanda 1 year ago
This treatment wasn't for SADs, it's for psoriasis and or eczema. SADs is a fairly new condition (I know many suffered from this for years but only recognised and treated quite recently)
keyboardtek 1 year ago
My dermatologist would use a UV lamp to treat my acne when I was a teen. Summer months I would sit in the sun all day and it improved my acne. Also increased my vitamin D and reduced my winter Blues. I lived in Buffalo.
Believe it or not, bloodletting is still practiced today. Thankfully, in a safer and more sanitary way. And not to cure every ailment under the sun. It’s what we now know as “drawing blood”. According to WebMD, Phlebotomy therapy is a modern type of bloodletting. It’s used to diagnose illness (blood tests), and treat some others.
As this research paper states, “Leeches attach to the host body surface and cut the skin using hundreds of calcified teeth. They can then draw blood for up to one hour while secreting saliva into the wound. The secreted salivary proteins and peptides reach the vascular system of the host via thousands of tiny salivary gland cell ducts.” Some doctors and hospitals use live leeches to treat vascular disease, blood clotting or promote circulation. But there are now also mechanical ones, which are considered a bit safer. And less gross.
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Multa Nocte 1 year ago
Nope. "Finding people willing to have electricity applied to their faces, especially for the longer periods necessary to take photographs in those days, was not an easy task. Duchenne’s work, therefore, concentrated on a single subject whose affliction with palsy made him almost completely impervious to the pain normally caused by prolonged electrical stimulation." https://nationalmaglab.org/magnet-academy/history-of-electricity-magnetism/museum/duchenne-machine-1850/#:~:text=Using%20his%20machine%2C%20he%20applied,use%20photography%20for%20medical%20research
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David 1 year ago
It seems like for some years medicine was all about, "We don't know how to cure this ailment" "I know! Let's pump a bunch of electricity into it!" "Splendid idea!"
Huddo's sister 1 year ago
That's exactly right, mostly because the doctors wanted to get rich/famous from any discoveries/patents
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Jackie Lulu 1 year ago
Back in the 80's, Dr Brown had a similar device that could possibly enable him to read minds.
Steve Robert 1 year ago
As long as they were in the Navy selling newspaper subscriptions.
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RagDollLali 1 year ago
"Hmm, what if we just fry his brain like a schnitzel and see if that helps?" 🤷🏼♀️
If leeches aren’t your thing, you might turn your nose up at maggots. Sometimes found wriggling on rotting meat, these fly larvae are being put to use in modern medicine. According to the Chelsea and Westminster Hospital, Maggot Therapy uses the slimy babies from the green-bottle fly. They are “put into a wound to remove necrotic, sloughy and/or infected tissue”. Maggots can also be used to keep wounds clean and prevent infection.
The maggots feed on a patient's dead tissue. Much like they feed on rotting meat. They then release special chemicals into the wound. It breaks down the tissue into a liquid form. The thirsty maggots drink the "juice" and digest it. Not sure about you. But it’s a hard no from us.
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David 1 year ago
"no longer necessary" because modern x-rays are remote triggered from an adjoining room. The lead shielding is built into the wall between you and the therapist so no need to wear the lead apron. Modern digital xrays only give about 1/10th the radiation dose as the older film negatives but they still trigger them remotely.
Bec 1 year ago
I ask them to also put on the neck cover when I am at my dentist, I don't care if it is only a small dose, I've seen what a messed up thyroid can do to someone and I'm not taking any chances
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John Mosley 1 year ago (edited)
Imagine reassuring a patient saying, "This is perfectly safe" while wearing all of that!
One of the oldest medical practices in history is still being used today. Trepanation, put bluntly, is the act of drilling holes into the skull. It was used to treat a bunch of things in ancient times. Most bizarrely, to pull evil spirits from a person’s body through a small hole in their head. Researchers have found evidence of trepanation being used as far back as prehistoric times. Various skulls were uncovered with signs of holes drilled into them.
Some people survived the procedure, others didn't. As this paper states, “Scraping trepanations evinced the highest survival rate; circular grooving, drilling and boring, and linear cutting were far less successful.” Today, trepanation or trepanning is used during modern surgery. It's also called a craniotomy. And it's used to relieve pressure on the brain, or to perform brain surgery.
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Binky Melnik 1 year ago
That’s when you’re in the tub and someone tosses in a transistor radio or a blow dryer.
Load More Replies... RagDollLali 1 year ago
I wish they were more specific, because when I looked it up the term was used for two separate types of devices. One was sort of just like a tanning bed, and the other was actually used to electrocute patients whole bodies as part of their "therapy".
Binky Melnik 1 year ago
I wish this site kept track of downvotes so we could see the asshats who do the downvoting. I’d love it if they updated the code while most pandas are sleeping and we wake up to see who the idiot(s) is/are.
Load More Replies... Skid Marks 1 year ago (edited)
Yeah but when I threw the toaster into the bathtub when my 'friend' was in it... It wasn't classified as therapy.
keyboardtek 1 year ago
These days with man generated electromagnetic waves all around the planet from telecommunications technology, we probably all are getting such a bath.
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Ace 1 year ago
It was a prototype, never actually used, as you'd have to (re-)build a plane's fuselage around it.
General Anaesthesia 1 year ago
Exactly. Churchill and "The Pod": https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/in-the-media/churchill-in-the-news/churchill-and-the-pod/
Load More Replies... David 1 year ago
Did they not have oxygen tanks in the late 40s? Otherwise I don't see the problem. Internet tells me that even into the 60s most planes flew about about 10-12,000 feet. My dad used to fly his plane over the mountains (similar height) with no oxygen. He had it with him because supposed to but he lived near denver so was used to slightly lower oxygen anyway. I flew over those mountains with him once and it didn't bother me at all. Also - what did Winston do when he had to pee?
Kim Kermes 1 year ago
Its not just oxygen, low pressure affects the entire body. Sudden changes in pressure during evasive maneuvers are worse. It was probably heated, too. My dad's flight suit from WWII for his B24 looked like arctic wear. They tried pumping hot air from the engines into their suits but it failed sometimes. Churchill wasn't young and was considered rather valuable,
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ThatOneFish She/Her 1 year ago
Oh god I read 'personal pleasure chamber' and was confused for a minute there
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Luis Hernandez Dauajare 1 year ago
He is one pull away of ending up in a wheelchair... or a coffin.
Geoffrey Scott 1 year ago
As recently as the late 80's, they were still using traction for back issues. Lay in bed, weights strapped to your ankles, to pull vertebrae.
Load More Replies... Multa Nocte 1 year ago
In some ways not as bizarre as that current practice that some people use of lengthening their bones through repeated surgery and metal pins to increase their height.
keyboardtek 1 year ago
I use a cervical traction device when ever my three herniated disks in my neck cause arm twitches. Traction has saved me from horrible spinal fusion surgery.
Binky Melnik 1 year ago
I have a big weight that pulls on my neck (I injured my neck badly when I was twelve); it provides traction. This looks like a MUCH less convenient version of that!
Steve Robert 1 year ago
Barney did this to keep his deputy job in The Andy Griffith Show. The kids thought he was trying to hang himself.
While some of the historical medical practices were questionable. Others paved the way for modern medicine. But who knows? Maybe sometime in the future, medical professionals might look back on some of today’s treatments and wonder what in the name of Black Death we were thinking. What medical practices do you find mind-boggling? Let us know in the comments.
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Damned_Cat 1 year ago
My mother had a more modern version of this back in the 60's. Use it for too long and you get one heck of a friction burn.
David 1 year ago
My grandma too. Also 60s. I never got a friction burn but didn't use it for very long because it was annoying. Also because I was a young boy and just curious.
Load More Replies... Luis Hernandez Dauajare 1 year ago
I think this came from the idea that a massage could destroy or break up fat deposits in the body.
PeepPeep the duck 1 year ago
Hey! Good luck to you, if you’re willing to use it for what you insinuated 😉
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Mabelbabel 1 year ago
ERGs are still done today, although obviously the equipment is modernised. It's done as part of investigations into retinal disorders, to check how the specialised cells of the retina react to colours and light. Patients with inherited disorders of the retina, or acquired retinal abnormalities like macular degeneration or retinal detachment often have it performed.
Load More Replies... ninjaTrashPandaBoom 1 year ago
Yeah, nope. I'm fine, do not need to know the electrical potential of my retina...
Say No to Downvoting 1 year ago
Please tell me - DID the retina have much electric potential??
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David 1 year ago
Those appear to just be personal saunas. You can still purchase home variations of this today. https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Personal-Therapeutic-Weight-Indoor/dp/B00YDV7PF0?th=1
Santrikea 1 year ago
They're steam baths that were often used in mental facilities. They're locked in there with only their heads free and forced to be in there, often for hours at a time. It was used for both treatment and punishment.
Load More Replies... michael reid 1 year ago
That's just where they keep the spare chefs until they're ready to be used
Huddo's sister 1 year ago
These pictures always remind me of a hospital game I had on my Nintendo DS, I can't remember the name, where one of the treatments were these steam baths. I think the animation showed the patient's face getting redder the longer they were in it.
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michael reid 1 year ago (edited)
I thought these gave an often unobtainable view into our collective past that the future of society will be built on. Yes, from these pioneers fumbling in the dark, we have the light to find our own way. But we ourselves are still fumbling in the dark towards some as yet unknown scientific triumphs.
Data1001 1 year ago
No later than a century from now, they will look back at many of our "advanced" procedures and think of them as barbaric. Science advances, and each era does the best that they can. The one thing that's changed the most is ensuring patients rights to safety and personal consent.
Maudelin 1 year ago
Civilization is devolving, we'll be back here at some point.
Load More Replies... Rob D 1 year ago
This is what thousands of years of science being the purview of religion lead to. Now look at how far we've come the last 100. From medical research/progress, to life expectancies and IMRs, to basic women's rights. Why has our quality of life followed an exponential curve towards improvement that mirrors the exact same curve in throwing god the f*k out of our lives on his filthy f'ing ear. 2000 year case study IRL. 1900 years of Jesus fans running s**t. Last 100 of science and objective truth. I know which I'd take and it's not even close.
RightSoFar 1 year ago
Might i suggest you read up on Hildegaard Von Bingen to remedy some of yoru ignorance?
Load More Replies... Lauren Wilder 1 year ago
History teaches that most of these "medical treatments" were undoubtedly carried out on black women without their consent long before mainstream use.
Terran 1 year ago
I don't know why you get downvoted. Marginalized groups have been used as lab rats for centuries. It's not like the perpetrators didn't document it all...
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michael reid 1 year ago (edited)
I thought these gave an often unobtainable view into our collective past that the future of society will be built on. Yes, from these pioneers fumbling in the dark, we have the light to find our own way. But we ourselves are still fumbling in the dark towards some as yet unknown scientific triumphs.
Data1001 1 year ago
No later than a century from now, they will look back at many of our "advanced" procedures and think of them as barbaric. Science advances, and each era does the best that they can. The one thing that's changed the most is ensuring patients rights to safety and personal consent.
Maudelin 1 year ago
Civilization is devolving, we'll be back here at some point.
Load More Replies... Rob D 1 year ago
This is what thousands of years of science being the purview of religion lead to. Now look at how far we've come the last 100. From medical research/progress, to life expectancies and IMRs, to basic women's rights. Why has our quality of life followed an exponential curve towards improvement that mirrors the exact same curve in throwing god the f*k out of our lives on his filthy f'ing ear. 2000 year case study IRL. 1900 years of Jesus fans running s**t. Last 100 of science and objective truth. I know which I'd take and it's not even close.
RightSoFar 1 year ago
Might i suggest you read up on Hildegaard Von Bingen to remedy some of yoru ignorance?
Load More Replies... Lauren Wilder 1 year ago
History teaches that most of these "medical treatments" were undoubtedly carried out on black women without their consent long before mainstream use.
Terran 1 year ago
I don't know why you get downvoted. Marginalized groups have been used as lab rats for centuries. It's not like the perpetrators didn't document it all...
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