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“[Am I The Jerk] For Telling My Friend She Can’t Come If She Brings Her Kid”
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“[Am I The Jerk] For Telling My Friend She Can’t Come If She Brings Her Kid”

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Taking a break from the kids is a reward all parents deserve. If you’ve ever been around kids, you know how demanding they can be. They constantly want your attention 24/7, and when you fail to give it to them, you might unfortunately witness a major meltdown.

This parent wants a break from the kids, and thanks to a special get-together, they get to have their wish. However, their friend doesn’t seem to understand. She wants to bring her child to the event at all costs, even though they offered her a free babysitter.

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Parents need a night off from their kids, to party and basically be free

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The poster wanted a kid-free event; however, one of her friends insisted on bringing her daughter with her

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The poster offered the friend alternative solutions and even wanted her sitter to look after the little one at her expense, which the mom refused

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The poster’s friend eventually decided to skip it seeing that the author was not budging on her rule

The author’s friends planned a get-together at a restaurant with a private room and bar for her nearly 30th birthday. She and her husband hired a babysitter for their own 3-year-old child and anticipated a night to unwind. However, another friend, Missy, expressed a desire to bring her 5-year-old daughter.

The poster offered to compensate her babysitter to accommodate Missy’s daughter as well, but Missy declined, stating her daughter spends all day in daycare and shouldn’t be subjected to additional childcare. The author then politely explained her reservations about having a young child present. She cited concerns about potentially inappropriate language due to the group dynamic and the potential disruption from a restless child who doesn’t sit still or act right at restaurants.

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The author discussed the situation with the friend who organized the event, and they agreed to request that Missy leave her daughter at home. Missy reacted negatively, refusing to attend the birthday celebration under these circumstances. The author expressed understanding towards Missy, acknowledging similar situations where she has prioritized her child’s needs over attending events. The OP extended an olive branch, offering a separate playdate with both their children to maintain their friendship. Additionally, she clarified that while Missy is welcome at the restaurant, she cannot enter the private room with her daughter. 

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It’s important to note that the private room rental was a gift from other friends, solidifying the poster’s right to set expectations for the space. This desire for a child-free environment is understandable. As adults, we all crave moments to recharge and reconnect with ourselves. Safe spaces away from kids, like the one created by the private room rental, provide that essential breathing room.

These spaces, whether it’s an evening out with friends, a quiet afternoon reading, or even just a solo shower, allow us to shed the responsibilities of caregiving and simply exist as individuals. This is crucial for preventing parental burnout, which can be exacerbated by social isolation. As Child’s Play Early Learning Centre points out, “Parenting can be lonely when you don’t get much time to socialize with other adults. Not having the chance to talk and open up about the joys and struggles of parenthood can take a toll. When we socialize with other parents, we find a sense of camaraderie by sharing stories and experiences, reminding ourselves we’re not alone in this journey.”

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“When you send your children to childcare, you have more opportunities to socialize at work or catch up with valuable family and friends on your days off. You also have time to think about yourself and what you need to do to reach contentment. No one is happy all of the time, but not allocating time to attend to your own wellbeing can lead to feelings of resentment and frustration.”

This need for self-care and adult socialization extends to social gatherings. Sometimes adults crave time to relax and socialize with friends, potentially engaging in activities or conversations less suitable for children. While some parents might be comfortable bringing their kids to such events, others, like the OP and her friends, might prefer a child-free environment. Missy’s decision not to find alternative childcare ultimately prevented her from attending the celebration as envisioned by the organizer.

“People come with all different quirks, idiosyncrasies, and lists of things that annoy the crap out of them, so they’re naturally going to have different boundaries, needs, preferences, and perspectives when it comes to parenting styles.” Kat Vellos, author of We Should Get Together: The Secret to Cultivating Better Friendships shared with Bored Panda.

Kat chimed in to share her perspective on this issue “There’s a difference between boundaries and preferences. If you and your friend are working together to navigate each other’s preferences, it’s going to be easier to compromise and flex so you can find common ground. But if one person states a firm boundary or requirement, that’s different. Attempting to push them past a firm boundary that they’ve already made clear is a good way to damage your friendship permanently.”

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On the issue of compromise, Kat noted that the author offered two compromises—she offered to pay the sitter extra money to also watch Missy’s daughter. “The author also suggested that they have a lunchtime playdate together with both of their kids to celebrate at another time. She made it as logistically easy as possible for Missy to either attend the adult party or accept a reasonable alternative. Missy wouldn’t lose any cash if she came to the adult party since she wouldn’t have to pay for a sitter and she didn’t contribute to the cost of the private room rental. All she had to do was show up and celebrate her friend’s birthday — either with the grownups at night, or later at a lunch with the kids. Instead, she disinvited herself from both options.”

“Missy could definitely have been more understanding of the request for a child-free event. This was her friend’s birthday party after all, and this friend offered to pay for a sitter for both of their children, demonstrating that she wanted Missy there.” Kat noted “On someone’s birthday, they are the one who gets to call the shots, period. They have every right to say: “no kids” or “no dogs” or “no shoes in the house” or “no alcohol” or “no Nickelback” or whatever. As their friend, the most awesome thing you can do is to help them have that kid-free, dog-free, Nickelback-free, sober shindig. Or, you can kindly decline to attend.”

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Finally, Kat explained that if someone wants a child-free gathering, not just on their birthday but any day of the year, they have every right to say so. “Sometimes that means their parent-friends can attend, and sometimes that means their parent-friends can’t attend. In declaring that boundary, they’re making it clear that whether you can make it or not, they’re willing to accept any outcome.”

Too bad she missed out on it even though she didn’t need to. Anyway, what do you think about this debacle? Was the OP’s reaction justified? Let’s hear from you in the comments.

Commenters agreed the poster was not the jerk seeing that she offered multiple solutions

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omboyganesh avatar
ॐBoyGanesh
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with a free-spirited, hippy artist of a mom & spent many years traveling or living in ashrams & hill stations in India when not at our actual home in the US. She is flighty, but a very attentive, protective, engaging mother. When she’d go out or off on a weekend trip leaving me with a sitter I’d ask her why I couldn’t come. She’d remind me “because I identify as more than a mother.” Something she told me early on is to not build your character around others, no matter how important they are. Be cautious of those who can only self-identify as a “father” or “wife” or by a profession. Make sure they see themselves as multi-dimensional. Because when their entire identity is based on their relation to you, you’ve got to carry that co-dependent weight for them when you need to be your own person. I’ve actually met many parents who can’t or won’t do things without their children, because they have no sense of independence & aren’t comfortable identifying as anything other.

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Ken Beattie
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want a follow up. You just know the woman is still going to turn up to the party with her kid tagging along and it's going to go to hell.

marigenbeltran_2 avatar
Windtree
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does Missy think it's ok for her 5 year old daughter to be around drunk adults? Isn't that what Thanksgiving and Xmas is for?

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Michael Largey
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If Missy and her daughter are allowed in, then there will be two poorly controlled children at the party.

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Melissa Harris
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dragging a child to a loud bar to be ignored for hours while mom and her friends get drunk is selfish. This party/bar is no place for a 5-year-old. The OP even offered to pay/provide babysitting (what a generous friend)! Children behave the worst and have meltdowns when forced into uncomfortable situations with either not enough, or too much, stimulation. The OPs friend wants to spend more time with her daughter that's on her to organize. She can't usurp someone else's event as mommy and me time. It unfair to the OP and her other guests and it's unfair to the little girl who will not enjoy being there.

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Karen Bird
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I adored being a mother to a 5 year old and loved spending lots of time with him. However, that didn't include me taking him to bars or adults only nights out! I in turn was doted on by my parents and we frequently did things as a family. Family time wasn't me going to a pub with them though! Missy needs to remember she has existed for more than 5 years and is allowed to spend time with her friends away from her daughter. Honestly? As a grandma I provide free childcare so that my son and daughter in law get to continue to have a relationship that exists away from their son.

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Tamra
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't understand this behavior. I mean, when our son was small and we received an invitation to an event that specifically said "no kids", we made appropriate arrangements for a sitter, or just didn't go. That's it. There are some places that kids just don't belong, FFS.

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Tyke
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to know what bar would allow a 5 year in for an evening event like this. Where I live they wouldn't allow it, so this would be a total non story.

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Chez2202
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In England where I live there are many pubs / bars which are also restaurants where families with children can dine. Most of them will only allow children until 9pm. I don’t think it’s because a 5 year old should be in bed at that time (although they should in my opinion), but because they know that they will have ADULTS there who might be drunk, might swear, might fight. Kids of 5 should not be there.

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SF Angel
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is something wrong with a mother of a 5 yo thinking she should bring said child to a BAR for a birthday party. The audacious entitlement of some parents today leave me speechless

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Rizzo
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A friend figured that since his friends all have kids, they only come to his parties with their children and leave very early. He wanted to celebrate his birthday very big and looked for a way the guests won't bring their offspring and stay longer. The solution was a 18+-Party with monitors with x-rated movies in every room - even the bathroom. It was very surreal and a bit cringe in the beginning but it turned out to be a very cool party.

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Natasha Clark
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!! The most likely reason Missy turned down the babysitter was cause she as well as her child didn't know them. However, they know nearly everyone at the party & probably expected a designated driver/sober individual to be in attendance to watch over her offspring so she can drink herself stupid. That would be the only valid explanation as to why she would bring her. Unfortunately, she can't call the shots as it's NOT her birthday but do feel free to cry if you want. 😄

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Kathy O
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate these stupid AITA posts that are people running to the internet for validation over the tiniest conflict or interaction. "My friend wanted to get pizza but I wanted to get burgers. She agreed with me but I need to know am I the a*****e?" "My husband left the cap off the toothpaste and I asked him to put it back on. Am I the a*****e?"

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Astro
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“dEpEnDs On CoUnTrY” Kathy, remember? That phrase you’re following and harassing another BP user with? Doesn’t feel too good, eh?

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Guess Undheit
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some in the comments get pi$$y when I use the word breeder. This story is the difference between a parent and a breeder: The OP is a ~parent~ that takes responsibility and plans for the kid's care. Missy is a ~breeder~ that does neither.

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Lyenne Summers
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Breeder is derogatory term and not generally used like you describe. It's a sensitive subject. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that I love your username. :D

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ॐBoyGanesh
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with a free-spirited, hippy artist of a mom & spent many years traveling or living in ashrams & hill stations in India when not at our actual home in the US. She is flighty, but a very attentive, protective, engaging mother. When she’d go out or off on a weekend trip leaving me with a sitter I’d ask her why I couldn’t come. She’d remind me “because I identify as more than a mother.” Something she told me early on is to not build your character around others, no matter how important they are. Be cautious of those who can only self-identify as a “father” or “wife” or by a profession. Make sure they see themselves as multi-dimensional. Because when their entire identity is based on their relation to you, you’ve got to carry that co-dependent weight for them when you need to be your own person. I’ve actually met many parents who can’t or won’t do things without their children, because they have no sense of independence & aren’t comfortable identifying as anything other.

kenbeattie avatar
Ken Beattie
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want a follow up. You just know the woman is still going to turn up to the party with her kid tagging along and it's going to go to hell.

marigenbeltran_2 avatar
Windtree
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does Missy think it's ok for her 5 year old daughter to be around drunk adults? Isn't that what Thanksgiving and Xmas is for?

michaellargey avatar
Michael Largey
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If Missy and her daughter are allowed in, then there will be two poorly controlled children at the party.

otakugirl08x avatar
Melissa Harris
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dragging a child to a loud bar to be ignored for hours while mom and her friends get drunk is selfish. This party/bar is no place for a 5-year-old. The OP even offered to pay/provide babysitting (what a generous friend)! Children behave the worst and have meltdowns when forced into uncomfortable situations with either not enough, or too much, stimulation. The OPs friend wants to spend more time with her daughter that's on her to organize. She can't usurp someone else's event as mommy and me time. It unfair to the OP and her other guests and it's unfair to the little girl who will not enjoy being there.

karenlb26 avatar
Karen Bird
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I adored being a mother to a 5 year old and loved spending lots of time with him. However, that didn't include me taking him to bars or adults only nights out! I in turn was doted on by my parents and we frequently did things as a family. Family time wasn't me going to a pub with them though! Missy needs to remember she has existed for more than 5 years and is allowed to spend time with her friends away from her daughter. Honestly? As a grandma I provide free childcare so that my son and daughter in law get to continue to have a relationship that exists away from their son.

tamrastiffler avatar
Tamra
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't understand this behavior. I mean, when our son was small and we received an invitation to an event that specifically said "no kids", we made appropriate arrangements for a sitter, or just didn't go. That's it. There are some places that kids just don't belong, FFS.

rosieetike avatar
Tyke
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd like to know what bar would allow a 5 year in for an evening event like this. Where I live they wouldn't allow it, so this would be a total non story.

cherylhayesbent avatar
Chez2202
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In England where I live there are many pubs / bars which are also restaurants where families with children can dine. Most of them will only allow children until 9pm. I don’t think it’s because a 5 year old should be in bed at that time (although they should in my opinion), but because they know that they will have ADULTS there who might be drunk, might swear, might fight. Kids of 5 should not be there.

Load More Replies...
kimbo650 avatar
SF Angel
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is something wrong with a mother of a 5 yo thinking she should bring said child to a BAR for a birthday party. The audacious entitlement of some parents today leave me speechless

roy_zobel avatar
Rizzo
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A friend figured that since his friends all have kids, they only come to his parties with their children and leave very early. He wanted to celebrate his birthday very big and looked for a way the guests won't bring their offspring and stay longer. The solution was a 18+-Party with monitors with x-rated movies in every room - even the bathroom. It was very surreal and a bit cringe in the beginning but it turned out to be a very cool party.

natashaclark avatar
Natasha Clark
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!! The most likely reason Missy turned down the babysitter was cause she as well as her child didn't know them. However, they know nearly everyone at the party & probably expected a designated driver/sober individual to be in attendance to watch over her offspring so she can drink herself stupid. That would be the only valid explanation as to why she would bring her. Unfortunately, she can't call the shots as it's NOT her birthday but do feel free to cry if you want. 😄

sodos32313 avatar
Kathy O
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate these stupid AITA posts that are people running to the internet for validation over the tiniest conflict or interaction. "My friend wanted to get pizza but I wanted to get burgers. She agreed with me but I need to know am I the a*****e?" "My husband left the cap off the toothpaste and I asked him to put it back on. Am I the a*****e?"

beckisaurus avatar
Astro
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“dEpEnDs On CoUnTrY” Kathy, remember? That phrase you’re following and harassing another BP user with? Doesn’t feel too good, eh?

Load More Replies...
guessundheit avatar
Guess Undheit
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some in the comments get pi$$y when I use the word breeder. This story is the difference between a parent and a breeder: The OP is a ~parent~ that takes responsibility and plans for the kid's care. Missy is a ~breeder~ that does neither.

lyennesummers avatar
Lyenne Summers
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Breeder is derogatory term and not generally used like you describe. It's a sensitive subject. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that I love your username. :D

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