35 Behaviors That Were Turned Into Red Flags But Actually Don’t Mean Anything, According To Folks In This Online Group
There are so many weird and creepy people around that look and act normal at first, but when you talk to them some more or even become friends or start a relationship with them, you realize that they are quite toxic or crazy. After a couple of these experiences, you start to look for signs before committing to getting closer to that person.
There are a lot of common signs that are really telling, but we have started to demonize behaviors that don’t actually tell us anything and it's just a normal thing that many people do, including the bad people in your life.
Reddit user MuchDuck did us all a favor and asked people online “What is widely considered a red flag but actually is not?” allowing people who do certain things to defend themselves and for others to learn that sometimes healthy behaviors that may seem suspicious or unacceptable to us don’t mean that someone is a bad human being.
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I once met a girl who thought it was a red flag that I always placed my phone screen down on a table. She thought it meant I was hiding something. I had to try and explain that it's too big to keep in my pocket and it's screen down to be polite and show her that she has my undivided attention.
Although, I must admit, that her level of insecurity was a red flag to me.
This is a red flag on her part, can't be so paranoid about the littlest things.
People who are looking for "red flags" will interpret anything negatively. It's a weird mindset.
Load More Replies...I thought that was standard etiquette. If we're at dinner or talking, of course I'm going to turn my screen down.
Here it really doesn't matter how I put my phone on the table.... when I'm at the diningtable it's always facedown, otherwise I can't even find it on our black glass surface ;p For the rest, I never cared, my SO and I have no secrets, so whenever we need a phone quickly, we take the one that is nearby. We've got the same pin so no probs ;)
i get u! i know i can be insecure/paranoid (i have diagnosed MH stuff + in treatment) but phones never felt like an issue? foremost i respect my partner's privacy + vice versa. we don't have secrets but phones are so intrinsic, pretty much hold ur entire life - i'm not gonna worry abt/snoop in such an intimate thing. but we don't actually hide anything on our phones. when i'm on his chest, he'll text w his arms around me. the phone is more in my face than his even. i'll ask him to check my notifs if he's closer to my phone + vice versa. we both have each other as the 2nd face ID. if we're ordering food, look sth up, use maps etc we'll just use whichever is on hand + don't have to ask to touch the phone. neither of us feel any need to look into each other's phone. we're totally secure in ourselves + respect boundaries. v weird how much phones/phone privacy r blown out of proportion. if ur THAT concerned, sth is fundamentally wrong in ur relationship. it's never actually the phone itself
Load More Replies...Yeah, everybody is hiding something. It's not necessarily something damning, inappropriate or illegal. We just all have things we would rather not make public for the whole world to see. It may be some silly inside joke between you and your close friend, your terrible attempt at singing in the shower, that cringy "poem" you wrote when you were 14 or absolutely anything else
Hmmmm... I place my phone, how it gets placed... I never would have thunk this was a thing.
Was at the job interview, then after met my friend for coffee to tell how it went. He scolded me baaaadly, “that how you kept your phone during interview as well?!”. You cannot do that, unless you are hiding something!”. He lifts up my phone and there’s 3 big fresh cracks on the screen, I was just embarrassed for people to see it. But I’ll tell… his reaction was wayyy over the top, like I’d do something criminal. He was bad news and his behaviour was a red flag, and after more red flags, he’s no longer my friend.
Not having a social media presence. I’ve had multiple people tell me that my choice not to use social media was a huge red flag, but in reality I got rid of my accounts because they were making me miserable. I got rid of my Facebook/Instagram/twitter accounts two years ago, and have been noticeably happier ever since.
I love that I don’t have other SM 😍 just bored panda and YouTube. People always think it’s so weird but that’s ok . I’m happy 😊
The only "Social" Media I have is Facebook, without any info on it. I only use it to login on different apps. Like Bored Panda
Me too I have only a facebook account (with no info) to follow cookgroups, history groups... and to log in on apps
Load More Replies...Because then people can't snoop on your pages. Honestly I think those people are the creepy ones.
Load More Replies...I dropped social media in 2020. Amazing how much weight it took of my shoulders.
Good for you! I think social media can be good for some, but for others this would be the correct decision.
I agree ^_^ I've simultaneously moved to a new country to start a new career while going through a breakup from a 7yr relationship where we were engaged. My mental health would be c**p if I didn't have the support of my friends (we connect through FB).
Load More Replies...I only keep FB because my family is spread all over the place, but it's mostly for pics. I tried getting rid of it, but I missed seeing my nieces, nephews, and cousins. Oh well.
Tried Facebook, friended people etc but found it it's a den of "pretending my life is better than yours" misery, medical misinfornation and people who bullied me and toxic family members being suggested as friends constantly. So I droppen it in the hole.
Someone super kind and truly wonderful had no social media for like 3-4 years. Because of huge (close and far) family was super nosy via fb, checked every step, every day there were multiple messages on messenger “why this why that? Where this picture is from? When are you coming to visit hometown? Will you do us a favour?”. Honestly… in this case I’d leave social media tooo.
Well - my main social website is Tumblr, and I hope it's understandable you don't show your Tumblr account to just anyone xD
Ditto. I do have an Insta account, but I pretty much just lurk and follow a few not toxic people there; people who make things.
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Being independent, or even a loner. Sometimes we’re just shy and have poor social skills. We’re not “creeps” or “weird”. I just do my own thing and leave people alone for the most part unless they want me in their life.
Sometimes, we're not shy and we don't have poor social skills, we just prefer being alone.
Sometimes, all of the above......being alone is often better than the alternative...
Load More Replies...Could not agree more. I see that trend on tiktok and other social media that's like, "when the quiet kid gets insulted", and basically its always just the quiet kid getting stereotyped into being violent/ weird.
For me, it was always defending my friends rather than myself. And somehow, they didn't appreciate it. 🤷♀️
Load More Replies...I just recently realized I was a loner. Before that, I was sabotaging relationships left and right. As soon as they wanted to start living together, I'd bail. Now that I know that, I'm a much better partner! Separate houses FTW!
I got harassed mercilessly by a coworker for being single. Constantly concern trolling trying to set me up with losers she knew including one who was always sitting on his porch drinking, until one day the wife and five kids moved out. At this last job had another coworker with orange skin and a poofy blonde mullet ragging that I needed “to get laid.” Did I mention she looked like a truck stop hooker from 1987? Thanks but no thanks miss skin tight bedazzled jeans.
Exactly. The pandemic (although not good) gave me the life I always wanted - peace and quiet and alone time. I do like people, but in small doses. Then I have to be alone again for awhile. Cellphone texting is the best invention since sliced bread. I also hate the telephone, so short chats on text gives me the "social" I might need. LOL!
I don't socialize. I don't want to. And yes, I have been called weird because of it. Maybe if most people didn't suck...
Lol this. I like the company of one. Not many. 1:1 is my preferred socializing. But despite this i hate eating alone surrounded by people. For example work cafe. If i am knowing I'll be without my lunch buddies I'd prefer eating alone isolated in my cube or elsewhere. But i always thought conflating people that prefer independence from a group as being some kind of weirdo. When everyone is a weirdo in their own right.
Not responding to texts immediately.
No *Brenda* I'm not ghosting you, I am literally at work.
Okay, as a person from the other side. I always respond to texts as soon as I see/hear it because I have anxiety not doing it. And as a child with 4 siblings I was often unintentionally ignored (single parent household) and I was the wallflower of my friends being talked over or "not heard". So I've been training myself to not feel bad when my texts aren't answered immediately or even the same day. I'm not salty but I do tend to overthink and then I get a response and feel dumb for overthinking. I'm trying lol. But it helps to remind you friends that you're not ignoring them, that you're just busy from time to time. Especially if they are also this way.
When I see it, I answer quick. When a friend wants to keep chatting and I have to work or something, I just say ttyl, I'm busy now. If something is really important and you need an answer now, you call. I always pick up the phone, because I know noone who just calls to babble useless for an hour.
Load More Replies...Same with phone calls... I'm not obligated to answer your call right away. Maybe im napping, maybe im studying, maybe im driving....if it's important leave a message.
Or maybe I don't feel like talking right now. I pay the bill, I'll decide when to use the phone. I'm with you, leave a message
Load More Replies...First thing I did when I installed my messenger was to disable the "recipient read it"-checks. The main advantage of a messenger opposed to a phone call is that I DON'T have to answer at once.
My phone isn't a $1000 leash. Nobody has 24/7 uninhibited access to me. Understand boundries.
I don’t even know where my phone is sometimes if I’m spending all day with my gf 😍 so ….everyday ! Not sorry
Exactly. I was going to meet a new friend, we decided that we would meet on Thursday. On Wednesday after work I had all these text messages, "Are we meeting tomorrow???" etc. and since I couldn't respond right away she was like "Ok, then I'll have dinner with my mum instead!". Like girl, calm down, we said we would meet up, we decided on that. When I said "Well meet your mum then instead" she was like "No, I can cancel that!!!" I was feeling this is not a good idea
Single guy with a cat. I am NOT a monster god dammit.!!!
If I was single and dating, man with a cat would go to the front of the line.
Cats are independent critters, who need to be treated well in order to give you affection in return. That requires a respect of boundaries, patience and kindness.... all are good qualities in a potential boyfriend. Guys who likes cats are preferable to guys who hate cats. Seems really weird to me that anyone would see that as being a 'red flag'.
Totally agree, but let me add a story. So my ex liked cats. But he was not a nice man. Like at all. He tried to "train" our cat into sitting with him by placing the cat in his lap and bopping his head when the cat tried to leave. One time he was so mad that the cat decided to sit with me once while we were watching tv that he literally picked him up by the scruff and put him in his lap instead. Poor little guy managed to escape his lap and hop back into mine in which he took him again and bopped him on the head. There is a reason he's an ex, and in case you're wondering, yes I took the cat with me when I left.
Load More Replies...Ultimate green flag to me ! This man understands and respect boundaries, I would bet he is a keeper.
Load More Replies...Did I miss something here (again)? Who would consider this a red flag?
Single guys with cats are the best. Met one myself and now he's a married guy with a cat. 😉
Thats the best part. If you end up marrying them, the cat is also yours now 🥰
Load More Replies...I have two cats that I have had for 12 years.... I have been told that many times that it's weird. Usually by people who don't like animals, now that's a red flag.
Why is it so hard to find a guy with a cat? That's what I'm looking for. Green flag! Green flag!
Not getting along with parents. Some parents are abusive, neglectful, or toxic to be around; and if an adult chooses not to be around that, good for them.
Of course, if a person is actively awful *to* their parents, that's another story.
Coming from a family with mental, emotional, sexual abuse, I was called the wrong baby from the hospital for most of my life! Whenever anything goes wrong in ‘The Family’ it will always be my fault somehow! Soooo I try not to have anything to do with them, which is hard because they fight to keep the Scapegoat around 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ Don’t know why because I’m useless, stupid, lazy, a bad mother, a leach on society....but I clearly fill a need in them 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
As a member of the queer community who's been out since the early 90s, I know a LOT of people who have divorced themselves from their families. Some families don't deserve us!
So true. My family was understanding when I came out, but unfortunately even today it's not a given. My mom did pitch a fit about what's approved clothes for a wedding tho so wasn't all smooth sailing for me either (she tried to insist I wear a dress, but that was before I was out out)
Load More Replies...Family is basically a bunch of people you probably wouldn't normally socialize with if you weren't related to them.
Oh, this so much. It hurts to be considered a creep on top of what you've suffered.
I haven't spoken to my mom in years. Neither have my siblings. We, tried once or twice, hoping she'd changed, but she was still drinking box wine for breakfast and sending her new husband to the hospital. Our dad, on the other hand we're all close to. Basically we grew up with the classic abusive drunken parent, but with a role reversal. I'm not going to chance her being around my kids.
Good for you! It sounds difficult, but you did the right thing
Load More Replies...I love my mom but she is delusional literally. I don't exactly like hanging or even being around her as she still can take care of herself. Whenever me or my kids are around her she just ask us questions about her delusions. It's frustrating to talk about it and to her about it as well. I avoid her to not argue with her so much as I don't want to get her bp up too high and have her have a heart attack. My dad passed away from an acute heart attack. I do still love her but I don't hang around her too much. Like once in two weeks or so. Other then that I call her every other day to make sure she's still ok. We talk like 15 min then I hang up. Hope this helps.
Agreed. If its they're fault then let it be at that and you don't have to be around them. But don't always play the victim.
Im tired of telling people I cut off my mom to get hit with "BuT sHeS yOUr MOMMM" Coulda acted like it then hm
I haven't seen my father in over a decade, and I don't expect to before he passes away. Our relationship is pretty much nonexistent. He was emotionally manipulative and on occasion physically abusive. I owe him no amount of my precious time.
Not having many friends. im just very introverted not a weirdo.
Yes, being introverted is perfectly fine. Its just been ruined by people saying that they are introverts when they are not.
Or people who make being an introvert seem like having social anxiety or just being a disagreeable person who hates everyone else. I'm so tired of all the "extraverts are annoying and don't know when to shut up" and "I'm an introvert so I hate it when I have to talk to anyone" schtick. Introvert just means that you don't have as much social battery, so it might be harder to meet new people. It's more of a spectrum than a strict binary anyways.
Load More Replies...I found out that kids at my school thought I was a snob for not talking much. But they're idiots because they're the ones who were picking on me from day 1. Why would I want to speak to them?
It's better to have a few very good friends than many superficial ones. They are the jewels in your life.
I'm actually both, extraverted by nature, introvert by choise. My SO doesn't always understand that part of me but that's okay, he doesn't need to understand everything about me ;) On the other hand, it feels like the last decade or so, mre and more labels are put on people while they are actualy just completely fine the way they are, but society found it more usefull to label them... The same with "coming out of the closet" , before religions no one needed to be in the dang closet and someones genderidentety was just non of anybodies bussiness... If only people could accept others a little more without labeling ;)
There is actually a term for having both Introvert and Extrovert characteristics: 'Ambivert'. It just rarely gets used.
Load More Replies...I’m an extroverted weirdo with not many friends lol But the friends I do have are the best people I’ve ever met😊
I’d rather have a few close wonderful friends than lots of kinda there friends. Quality over quantity
Not dating for several years, I’ve been told by girls that if a guy has been single for over five years that’s a problem.
So you’d prefer he’d be in 25 relationships in the last five years and wonder why all those relationships didn’t work out?
Sometimes, not dating is good. Sometimes, dating can be really good. However, get into the wrong relationship, and it is not good whatsoever.
Have not dated since i was 55,im now 65....not missing it much
Load More Replies...Lol, those girls need to whipe their own doorstep, what's it to them? They do not set the bar for all women. Compared to my SO I have had a very boring dating history where as he has had many girlfriends and several relationships... It's all about the now and who you meet that you're compatible with, who cares what your relational status looks like before them ;) You do you and don't listen to them girls, let them grow up to become women first and then see how their life has turned out ;)
Been single since 2009, my husband died and I have focused on my 3 kids. They were very young 2, 4 & 6. Now I’m ready to date again but have forgotten how to! 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ AND the fear of letting someone in after being alone for sooooooo long 😬😲😬
If you're ready for companionship now, it will happen. Don't stress about the whole dating scene. If you're open to meeting someone it could just be a random encounter. Your kids are old enough now for you to be able to trust in their judgement too. If you're fearful of it being the wrong person, they know you better than anyone. If it gets past the first couple of dates, a passing introduction to one of your kids will probably be more than enough for them to give you all their thoughts on the person.
Load More Replies...I've been single for about 9 years, I'm not bothered if I never have a relationship again, someone would have to be pretty amazing to get me to change my status. I honestly don't think I could live with anyone again.
You have now cursed yourself into having that exact person waltz into your life
Load More Replies...My son is 41 and has not been a long term relationship for 5 years. He is kind, empathetic, educated, handsome and a genuinely nice guy that chose to be a social worker to help disadvantaged children. The women he dates all want a guy that makes a lot of money and they are very focused on instagram and superficial things. What's happened to just being a great guy who cares about making the world a better place?
sounds like he has a preference for the instagram ladies. if he doesn't want to date less flashy people, what is the outside world supposed to do?
Load More Replies...Geez, I haven't dated in 13 years, so what's that supposed to say about me? I moved halfway across the world, starting from scratch not even owning a bed, alone with my two kids, not wanting to drag every Tom, D**k and Harry into their lives, just to have them disappear again if we didn't work out. Nope, no thank you. Now my youngest is 18 and I'm finally considering entering the dating scene, but in the meantime it's gotten super shallow and I've gotten older and fatter, so........ not sure how that's gonna work out, but I guess I'll find out 😉
Well, someone saying they are single doesn't mean they don't hook up with people.
I had a really bad break-up with my first serious adult relationship. Shortly thereafter I spotted a girl that really attracted me. Nope. Not going to ask her out until I am ready. I gave myself one year to recover. I felt confident again & I asked her out. Come to find out she was going thru the same thing. We had a very nice relationship that ended well. We both needed each other at that time. Two years after we went to being only friends, both of us met our soul mates. It all worked out.
Men having female friends. A lot of girls get jealous, but if it's a real friendship and not a bunch of exes and hookups, it actually shows women consider them reliable and good people to have around.
I've had the same best female friend for years and never once was there any weirdness about it. She's been there for me when I got married, got separated, everything major in the last 20 years. Is she pretty yes but that's just bizarre to think of her as anything else then just a friend
This comment rings so true, and thank you for sharing it - as previously mentioned my best friend is male and is like a brother to me - has been there for everything and we've also traveled together, our kids are great friends, my daughter considers him family - but yeah he's like a brother - nothing else, and would be weird to think of each other as anything else...love him to bits but as family
Load More Replies...There are also men that will argue that men are only friends with a woman when they want to sleep with them. Aside from it being plain false, I've also found it incredibly arrogant to presume someone is incapable of something just you're incapable of it yourself.
I had some wonderful male friends. All platonic.. great guys to be with and safe... and nor they were judgemental nor ridiculous. Nothing more was expected from that friendship...
Load More Replies...Maybe it's all the circles of folks I've known in my life, but... almost every outside man/woman friendship I've known about, either turned into something else, or one of them had more than just a friend liking for the other. I'm not saying I disagree with the poster or others commenting, I'm just saying what I've seen.
My ex insisted that men and women can never be purely platonic friends, that sex had to be involved. But that was just how he operated - sex was crucial to his relationships with women. Which is why he's my ex, he only cared about me as his f***bunny.
I have male friends, idgaf what other people say. It's good to have a diverse friend group
YES. My best friend is so dear to me even though (or maybe because) we don't have any romantic/sexual intentions.
EXACTLY!MY BEST FRIEND IS MALE AND EVERYONE THINKS WE ARE TOGETHER! I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FEELINGS FOR HIM
If no one believes you, either lean into it and "marry" and "divorce" on weekly or daily basis. Or start pointing out that he's someone who you see as a brother, and playing banjo music any time someone infers you and your bestie are doing the s3x
Load More Replies...Uh, even when it IS "a bunch of exes," there's nothing wrong with that. If the guy dumped the ex and she has moved on and they're truly just friends, what's the problem. If he didn't cheat on that ex with previous female friends, she knows the friendship is real. It's only when a dude has a history of cheating that female "friends" are an issue.
Not all girls get jealous. But it's also the same with women who have male friends. A lot of guys can get jealous too.
maledependasaid:
A man playing with a child at a playground
Grogosh added:
Decades of that stranger danger stuff ruined dads being out with their child. Sure its a legitimate threat but the real bad stuff happens because they already know the kid, in family, friends, etc.
I'm not sure why you think that. There have been plenty of stories in the news over the years about kids who knew what to do when approached by a stranger and managed to get out of the situation because they were taught at a young age. That said, as a step-dad, I totally get where OP is coming from. But I don't think that means we shouldn't teach kids to be cautious around strangers.
Load More Replies...Close to 100% of crimes against children are committed by family members or other adults that the child knows very well such as a teacher or church leader.
It always confused me when women scream that they want their husbands to take on half the child rearing, but then these same women think that a man with children in a playground is a creepy thing. They can't have it both ways.
Huh? In the time that I wanted someone else, I always thought the best guy would be one who also goes to a playground with his kids, but there were only married dads and grandpa's.
When my two - now grown up - nieces were little kids, I'd take them to the park and play with them all the time.
Dad's, stepdads, uncles, childminders, nannies , kids need male role models. Not all females are safe for kids to be around either .....
Figured this out the hard way. Im a trans man, before if I was watching kids, no big deal... Now I get looks even with my daughter with me, if im on the playground🤷
Dads playing with, shopping with, dining with their small children are among the coolest things to be seen!
SadPlayground said:
Being over 40 and never having been married.
newbuttonacc replied:
It's weird because by implication, it's "not being divorced"
Which is, by extension, "not having sworn a vow to be with someone forever and then broke that vow"
How is that a red flag? Idk.
I lived in a highly conservative area and people were treating me like a weirdo for not being married at 22. Knowing how stupid I was at 22, not getting married was easily the smartest thing I did.
I got married at 22 and it was a freaking disaster. I won't get married again unless I'm absolutely sure and we've had a healthy relationship for a couple of years.
I'm glad I never married my ex. Good God, who needs to deal with divorces these days?
Marriage is first and foremost a legality. If it is not to your legal and or financial advantage as a couple to be married, and you don't plan on having children, don't do it. Those who pressure anyone to get married "just because" need to mind their own business. I only married my partner after 18 years together because it made it easier for us to buy a house, and because he's old enough that I have to start at least thinking about end of life care for him, which is easier to do if you're married.
This. It is so much easier to handle personal issues of your significant other (SO) when you are married. For example, if you get in a car accident. You SO shows up at the hospital and they ask your relationship. Saying my spouse carries more weight than roommates. Spouses have inherent legal and social privileges.
Load More Replies...my husband and i met on match.com @ 44 y/o; married 3 yrs later; still married now, best companionship ever; 1st marriage for both; no kids. yeah!
Married at 55, purely to avoid any complications with inheritance tax. Been together 23 years altogether.
58 here, together with hubs for going on 21 years, and we share our home with my adult autistic son (who cherishes hubs), why get married and ruin it all?
different ages work for everyone. (not saying i disagree, this makes total sense) my parents were around 24 when they got married and are happy. i know plenty of people whose parents haven’t gotten married or won’t, etc. same with having kids!
Men that like children and babies. Why do we assume every guy that likes babies is a pervert and a woman can't be?
Agreed, there is a lot of sexism against women, but i feel as though there is also some against men that is disregarded.
it's all the same sexism is the thing. it's just got facets. I think there's this general idea that feminism only helps women when it in fact helps everybody of every gender.
Load More Replies...At first, I read that as "men who act like children and babies," and thought, "The hell it isn't a red flag!" :-)
There are pedo women. Yet we place much more trust in women than men with kids. Females are more likely to be babysitters and daycare workers. There are some men who do these types of jobs but it's disproportionately women by a very long shot, and it's not proven children are safer.
More female teachers being arrested for pedo ish these days
Load More Replies...My husband loves babies and kids. He’s always pointing out cute babies at the shops or park so I can appreciate their cuteness as I love them too. It’s something I love about him.
My dad is 86 and raised two girls (me and my sister...). He thinks little girls are adorable and really likes them (that feels creepy just typing it). It's a running joke in our family about how Daddy isn't allowed to walk out in public saying "I like little girls." We joke, but it's sad that he can't appreciate how adorable female children are.
I would think NOT liking children or babies would be a huge red flag. Like not liking animals. I never wanted children myself, but I like other people's children just fine. Babies are cute af, it's human nature to like them.
I have always enjoyed kids and connect well with them. Animals too. Though I have always been self conscious about being a creeper. When I was young my mom tried to get me to do the big brother big sister thing but was always paranoid. Now that I have my son we are best buds and spend most of our day together. I've run into a lot of bias vs guys since he's been born but with him me being a good dad is more important than worrying about being a creeper.
I'm sorry but any adult hating children is a huge red flag for me personally.
Who said men not liking babies was creepy?? SCREW THEM! I think it's adorable!
Not making eye contact doesnt mean someone is lying.
Agreed. There was quite an issue in my city, which has a high population of people from various Pacific islands, with Pasifika students not looking teachers in the eye when spoken to. It was seen as shifty, not paying attention etc. So teachers would be, "Look at me when I'm speaking to you!" Some decades later teachers worked out that in many Pasifika cultures it is seen as confrontational or disrespectful for kids/teenagers to look directly into the eyes of adults in a position of authority. I suspect it's probably still not widely known and creates issues in a number of environments.
Load More Replies...So true. My son barely makes eye contact with anyone. I struggle with eye contact. I feel like I am intensely glaring at someone.
Load More Replies...I cry when I get exasperated; often in my childhood people saw this and thought I was lying. I hate it. I'm crying because I'm overwhelmed in some way, it doesn't portray guilt!
I'm an adult and I still cry when I'm extremely frustrated with someone. Never with things, for some reason.
Load More Replies...As someone on the spectrum I find eye contact extremely uncomfortable. I'm also an honest and trustworthy person. Real dangerous liars can do it to your face, swing while keeping eye contact all the way.
I get socially anxious and tend to avoid eye contact, as much as I can. I'm rarely lying about anything; I just don't like to feel stared at.
My neighbours thought I hated them, because I didn't look em in the eyes when I talked to them. No I'm just shy.
Load More Replies...Awwww, I don't mind making eye contact with this cutie kitty though! 😻😁
I just don't like looking someone in the eyes. Makes me uncomfortable.
smallemochick said:
not wanting your partner(s) to have the passwords to all your social media accounts
arturobear added:
It's just weird. My husband and I sometimes leave things open on shared devices and each of us, just respectfully logs out and logs in with our own credentials. We don't open each other's mail either.
There's a basic level of respect and trust you need to have in a relationship. If you feel the need to snoop, there's a lot more going on and the relationship has probably been on the rocks for a while. There are more mature ways to handle it - like being open with your feelings and having a frank conversation.
For me forcing other people to give you their passwords is a huge red flag AND a dealbreaker. I don't have anything to hide BUT I have conversations with people other than my partner where those people talk about their private matters, problems... in general, things which my partner shouldn't know because these secrets weren't entrusted him but for me. Also, there are some things I feel more comfortable talking with my friends or siblings than with my partner. Wanting unlimited access to someone's social medias is just childish and a sign of insecurity.
Thank you! Someone else's secrets are not mine to share just because 'we don't have secrets from each other'. I agree, I don't keep secrets from my husband either, but I'll sure as hell keep someone else's secrets from my husband! We are both happy with that.
Load More Replies...We do keep each other up to date on passwords we use, but it's more of an older couple in case of emergency thing. Meaning we know them, but we wouldn't use them unless one of us was in the hospital or something
No way in Hell I'm giving my husband any of my passwords, and I sure as Hell don't want his. Relationships need boundaries of privacy and trust to be healthy. I would never, ever open his mail without his permission either, that's just rude, and social media is basically digital mail. Insisting on having access to a partner's social media is a huge red flag, though. They are either controlling, have boundary issues, or are unable to trust. Run from all of those things.
See Remi's post below. While I don't want to share my passwords either, you should think of a backup in case something happens to you. So you accounts can be deactivated, online friends informed, subscriptions can more easily be cancelled etc.
Load More Replies...We share a house, kid, bank, account and know each other’s passwords just by osmosis. We don’t check each other’s phones or email unless it’s for practical purposes. My husband has no idea about this bp account though!
I don't understand giving them the passwords, really. Just tell them if their asking.
If they dont care and dont ask for passwords, no big deal. If they do care, and want passwords, no big deal if you have nothing to hide. People are sneaky and dishonest these days. For all I know, my husband could have a second wife with 3 children and I am sitting here on BP without a clue...it happens. (I know he doesnt...but really...do I? 🤔) 😁
But you may not nessesarily be qualified to understand everything that goes on in there (e.g. it can be really hard as a man to relate to "girl-stuff", as we do not have any practical experience with things like periods), and picking up only snatches of a conversation can easily lead to misunderstandings and misinterpretations because some of the pussle pieces needed to put things into context is missing, which will cause issues in your relationship. Furthermore what is in there, could very well be other people's personal stuff, which was never intended for you to read. So despite not strictly not having anything to hide, does not mean that everything is suitable to be brought out into plain daylight. we e.g. also close the bathroom door, despite nothing suspecious going on in there. There can be a number of reasons not to share everything, where sneaky and dishonest business is only one of them. Sometimes people just have to vent about there partner to someone else.
Load More Replies...Being in a relationship does not automatically mean that we are obliged to drop any privacy we have as individuals. Our of respect towards my SO I'd never ask for any passwords, neither would he. But I'm really curious what would be the result of a public couples' survey towards the opposite approach.
Meh..my wife has all my passwords and login s**t to my accounts..I have I think her bank account saved on my phone, maybe s**t book too..if you're not a cheating a*****e then absolutely no need to hide your login..and vice versa, but I couldn't giv
I always feel a bit odd about the concept of sharing passwords. Not for hiding reasons, but because you can just ask to see stuff? And I can hand you the stuff? The fact that you want it on-demand just feels... invasive. (My personal conspiracy theory is that people keep pushing the whole lack of privacy thing because there are Large Entities that benefit from people having less boundaries. But that's just me...)
Girls with stuffed animals. It’s just comfort and habit. Not that deep.
Edit: I’m so glad so many others of all identities agree. Its so okay to enjoy comforting items at any age. So happy to see it. You deserve to find joy and comfort in the simple things.
I'm 32 and still have my stuffed duck I got when I was 2. Plus my Eevee and Eeveelutions
Load More Replies...I would be a hypocrite to say something bad about adults having stuffed animals. I'm 53,and look at my profile picture...😁
upvote for that majestic profile picture!!!!!
Load More Replies...As a 62 year old woman who sleeps with stuffed animals I completely agree with this. They really help a lot with sleeping comfortably. And they're super cute, I love them.
We (male x2) have a soft toy Pikachu we bought from Japan and you would have to pry it from our cold dead hands
My current plushie is Bouche, my four month old kitten. Then again, maybe I'm his plushie.
living with family, in this day and age it’s just not feasible for everyone to have their own place.
Houses are so expensive to buy and to rent in Canada and it's so hard for a young adult to be able to afford to move out. I blame the greedy second/third home buyers which boosted the sale prices of homes, and now rent out at exuberant prices having the renter pay their mortgage, or have made them into those air bnb things. For young families, and many other families, the struggle is real.
Many societies view this as normal and expected... Having family very close by, even under the same roof, for mutual support is a lovely thing
I jnow that in Germany, at least the region where I used to live nearby, build houses that provided for exactly that, to have parents living with children to take of in the future. Here in Spain I see it also lots of times, the grandparents living in with one of their kids to help take care of the grandchildren and sometimes also just out of neccesity.
Load More Replies...Plus someone living with family might be doing so to help if for example parents have health issues and have trouble managing
I told my daughter there is no rush for her to leave the nest. I can barely afford to keep afloat. We can help each other live comfortably. There are cultures where it's normal to have multiple generations living under one roof.
Yes! I'm 43 (f) and moved back in with my dad a few months ago. I live in one of the top most expensive cities on the planet, and when I had to move out of my last home, I couldn't find anything in my budget. The relationship between my dad and me has been great, we're good housemates, and I feel fortunate that I get to spend time with him as he ages. Also he watches my dog when I work during the week!
It's such a strange developement... In the Netherlands prizes have gone up to level "Idiot", the amount of money the ask for a simple 3 bedroomhouse are unbelievable and that happened all in the last 3 years... The number of people living there has risen to over 17 million, a huge amount of people for such a small country. Where as here in Spain where we live now, whole villages are empty and people can even actually get paid to go live there. We actually moved here because we needed the peace and quiet in our life and it's so much more affortable to live here plus.... a lot of sun!
Yeah, but don't try living in a big city in Spain. Same housing problem. Worse, even, considering how low salaries generally are
Load More Replies...It was always the norm to live multi generational. UNTIL 50’s? When realtors realize how much more could be made by pushing the concept of need to live on your own
I've found women are the most vocal about this, regardless of the fact they may currently live with family. The women i know that do live alone do so with the help of one or more child support checks. Look, being able to afford a $2500 isn't possible if your not at least making 2x that amount.
With the price of real estate these days, this really needs to be normalized. There's nothing wrong with sharing living space if it's workable for everyone and it helps financially for all parties. We're not talking about the 30-yr-old who refuses to work, drive or help out at all - we're talking about everyone contributing to the household and sharing living space.
Not wanting a relationship, or not wanting certain things in a relationship (sex included).
Not everyone wants the same things and not everyone likes the same things.
Some of us just can't be bothered or just have no interest. Doesn't require another name
Load More Replies...Always be open and honest in what you want from the very first beginning, honesty goes a long way.
This is only a red flag if the two partners are not in sync with what's important to each other in their relationship. Asexual and highly sexual isn't going to work out any better than kids v no kids, or big spender and miser. But if you're not wanting a relationship at all with anyone, what are you doing on a dating site?
A relationship would be an intrusion for me. I don't want to share or make compromises for another person. I know that sounds selfish.
It's kind of a red flag, not for the person but for the relationship, because an introvert who's looking for a friend with benefits and 0 kids is not going to work as a pair with a companionship starved extrovert who wants a partner and a big family. All of these and more are valid wants and needs in a relationship and people should be saying honestly what they're looking for.
I would say that if you want to establish a relationship with a person who does not want to be in a relationship, it should be considered, if not a major red flag, then at least a quite clear signal for you to change course and that that relationship should be considered "dead".
Understanding that not all criminals are bad people. Sometimes I try to explain to people that maybe some criminals did what they did because of their circumstances and their weird understanding of how the world works. That does not necessarily make them a bad person. I am met with such harsh criticism for this statement, like I'm the criminal here. I just "understand" them, I don't commit crimes like them. At this point I've stopped explaining this to anyone I know without being anymomous.
I've been in prison. I committed a crime, and I deserved to be there. While I was there, I got therapy I desperately needed. Prison was a huge wakeup call, and I knew I had to change. It was very difficult, with a ton of soul-searching. Changing your life and making it stick is such hard work. There were times I thought I'd gone crazy; times I felt I didn't deserve to have any good in my life because I was such an evil person. Even after therapy, I haven't quit struggling. Even ten years later, there are times I'm so overwhelmed with guilt that I feel I deserve nothing but evil. I know I've changed. People who knew me throughout my prison years saw me change. People who knew me before, and know me now, tell me how much I've changed. It is possible. It's not easy, and many aren't able/willing to put in the work. For myself, I'm proud of how far I've come, and of the kind of woman I'm trying to become
Bloody well done! Honestly, you sound amazing. It's so difficult to see ourselves clearly, to not blame others for our mistakes - to make excuses. You've accepted and worked hard to change. You deserve to be proud. You keep on going forward 🤗
Load More Replies...I would have to say it depends on the crime that they commit. I don't think I can talk to a serial killer the same way as a guy who goes joy riding.
I'm a felon (it feels so weird to write that) from a crime I committed 15 years ago while I was high. Now, my job involves working with the sheriffs office to create treatment plans for all of the incarcerated women in my city. I've been clean and sober for 6 years. Recovery from addiction, criminality, and incarceration is possible!
Prison should be rehabilitation, not punishment. It's already punishment by its nature.
I agree. Given that the vast majority of inmates eventually rejoin society, surely it's in everyone's interest that they don't start breaking the law again the moment they get out.
Load More Replies...People land in prison for such a complex set of reasons. Someone growing up in a bad neighborhood and getting hooked on drugs, then going to jail and managing to turn their life around after is heck of a lot better than someone who's let's say embezzled money when they already were rich. Same with killers who had a strong reason (there was this woman here who killed her dad who had rāped her recently, no prison time for her actually, only psychiatric help) versus a serial killer who's doing it just for kicks
Recently I read about some guys in my country who stole a car and gave it back once they realized the car had a chair for disabled kids. It's a really, really poor country full of prejudice and jobs with high requirements poor people can't possibly meet. I 100% understand why someone would get into robberies out of desperation and I don't think that makes them bad. I've expressed before for family and friend if I wasn't incapable of social communication I'd be selling drugs already because no normal jobs want someone who can't speak but neither do criminals.
There's a huge difference in someone stealing food to feed their family and someone who robs a bank. Greed maybe?
The huge difference is that the person who steals food for their family goes to prison for a decade, while the Directors who steal millions, exploit employees, and ruin the environment fly to vacation on their private jets. If you are orange and steal national secrets, as well as pulling in millions in dirty money, why that just proves you are a man of god.
Load More Replies...Agreed. They may have just had a bad moment, and really regret it and have changed.
THIS NEEDS to be higher!!!!!! If you really understand the world you will realize that we are ALL capable of being and doing ANYTHING given the right circumstances! If you were abused and locked in a cupboard for most of your life, would you be able to live a normal life?!?!? Understanding a persons past can go very far in fixing their future!
My husband is a felon. It's important to not judge others for the mistakes they've made in the past. It's how they behave now that's important. If they didn't learn from their mistakes, and are still engaging in that behavior, yes it's a red flag. If they've learned and become a better person, that's a good thing. It's also important to understand that being in a relationship with a person with a criminal history can have financial and other implications, that should be taken into consideration like any other issue. And of course it depends on the severity of the crime. Sorry, pedophilia, rape or serial murder are all deal breakers. (Mine had a series of DUI's when he was much younger and going through a bad patch that racked up fast enough that they qualified as a felony. Now I can't buy a gun to keep in the house, which is annoying.)
Not wanting to spend every minute of every living day w your SO🙄
Most people need some time to themselves. I think that's normal and healthy. If it gets to the point where your SO is feeling neglected, then you need to re-evaluate things.
I was once on a very abusive relationship. The man :felt neglected" if I had a migraine and lied down alone for an hour. So I suppose you are right. You need to reevaluate but make sure to look at it from all sides. That could be an issue you should work on to include them more, or an issue you work on to realize toxicity and run.
Load More Replies...During my brief marriage my wife would be wanting to watch sitcoms and wanted me to watch with her, but I found them inane. So I'd be reading, sitting with her, and she'd steam up at me.
I think more relationships would last longer with separate bedrooms. Not only would sleep be improved, it gives you your own space to get away and be you.
See "wanting and expecting your privacy to stay intact". It's healthy and normal to retain your "me" space and sense of self. I love my spouse and he's my life partner, but he is not my conjoined twin.
Me and my SO broke up for a while because we lived in a studio. It was always We time never any Me time. We tried again after moving and have been making sure we always get a break if needed(usually from the kiddo now but still). Always being together can be very stressful
Apparently needing time to myself meant I was cheating. Nope, not me. Just needed time to myself to recharge. However, when (t)he(y) did something without me it was perfectly natural. This is why I will never commit to any one person for any reason other than pure friendship. Done. Lest anyone think I'm overreacting, this happened in all 3 marriages. I'm done.
Clinginess is SO unattractive. It's basically a level of insecurity I would never put up with again.
OMG - this! If I bought a new book and told him I wanted to read it, he heard "I don't want to spend time with you". How incredibly insecure are you???
So relationships are implied but not explicitly specified. So I am going to expand this to employment.
Gaps in employment being seen as a red flag in a resume.
This. I haven't had a job in two years and am about to start looking again. I'm terrified of being pegged as unemployable.
Good luck out there. It is hard indeed of you have a gap in your resume :(. But try not to be terrified. Just remember that if someone doesn't want to hire you becaise of a gap in your resume, they were probably not worth your time anyway. You'll be fine.
Load More Replies...I just got a job after an almost 5 year gap. Moving, medical issues, covid... but luckily someone gave me a chance. First day is tomorrow.
Good luck! You'll do great, I'm sure of it!
Load More Replies...This. But let's also add in how some things, such as babysitting or even just parenting aren't seen as 'real' jobs and can't be added to a resume.
Sure they can! There is no rule, or at least I have yet to see one where you can't include stuff like that. It's an honest form of work and it will help to show why you haven't had a "salary" for awhile. I would add it in.
Load More Replies..."Can you explain the gap in your resume?" yes, it's when I was not working. That's all you need to know.
Depending on the reason for the gap, you could note it/expand on it to improve the resume. For example, caring for an ill family member/friend can show you are supportive/caring, travelling could have allowed you to expand your experience/knowledge/language skills.
This is the way to approach it. I've employed people with gaps. They may have been a bit out of date in some respects, but they'll have a host of other experiences that they'll bring to the organisation and people can update their skill sets! If they're the right person I'd not dismiss them. In one organisation I worked at they actively took on people who were struggling to get back into work. Eg some people who had looked after a parent for 20 years or so and completely lost touch with the working world. I'll be honest, sometimes it didn't work out. One man would wonder over to my team and stare at my staff (mostly young women) but a brief chat and it stopped. Others, it got them back into work successfully. In the UK there are organisations that exist to help people in these situations.
Load More Replies...While I realise it isn't always possible, one way to mitigate this is by just keeping yourself busy. Just an hour or two a week working for a charity or volunteering at local club not only eliminates that gap but also let you say you've been expanding your skills and helping the community.
You can tell them it was medical issues. They don't need to know your business if it won't affect theirs. In the USA, they are not allowed to ask you about any medical stuff.
Load More Replies...It took me years to land employment when my daughter was smaller. When I was asked about the gaps in employment I would explain I was taking care of my family, my daughter. I would get raised eyebrows, and narrow gazes, like they disapproved. It was almost like they thought I was just sitting on welfare, but I wasn't. I wasn't even on welfare and not single. Not like it should matter.
I find it weird. Never had a problem employing people who had perfectly normal, sensible gaps in their paid employment such as looking after their children! The parents I employed all worked hard, had to sometimes leave unexpectedly because of a childcare emergency, but no more than I did for other reasons eg house fire, sick pet, sick parents. Real life gets in the way of the working world sometimes. You're right - it shouldn't matter.
Load More Replies...In employment, they're not red flags, but they are *potential* red flags. If there is a gap in a resume, all that means is that the interviewer should ask about the gap. If the interviewer doesn't want to talk about it, then that's fine. But the question should be asked - it's the interviewer's responsibility.
They don't mark down for a gap in employment if it's explained. They only get suspicious if there's a gap because you could have had a job(s)that you don't want them to know about i.e. you were fired for stealing, gross misconduct etc. It looks worse to have multiple jobs in a short space of time because they start asking why you don't stay in one for long.
My biggest tip from interviews is be confident and apply your skills. Don't just say I'm great at "X". Give an example and say that's why I believe I would be amazing at (insert area of job description).
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The amount of women I know that take it as a red flag that a guy doesn't pay for all dates/buy them things. I'm proud of what I have done with my life and that I can go do those things myself, I like a guy that treats me as an equal. That is not a red flag at all to me
Agreed, the man should not always have to pay. Both genders should pay 50/50. Its just common sense.
Well not 50/50 but pay what you eat. If one person has a hella expensive lobster meal and the other a simple salad, then the halfsies payment model is unfair.
Load More Replies...In olden days, when single women lived at home with their parents and weren't expected to work, and if they did have to work it would be due to financial hardship and most likely a low-paying job, and single men were expected to work and were paid substantially more, this dating rule made sense. It no longer makes sense, and I'm glad it's disappearing. Just because something is traditional doesn't make it sacred. I pay for most of our "date nights" because I'm still working and my husband is retired on a limited income. It makes more sense. A woman who insists on her partner always paying is waving a huge red flag of her own She's either harboring misguided gender expectations, a gold-digger or financially unstable. None of which bode well for a long term relationship.
The way I look at it is whoever asks you out pays, and there should be no pressure of obligation to expect more to come of the date. I'd be absolutely terrified to be dating today when men don't want to pay for a date they initiated, then get angry, just because the girl finds she's not interested in pursuing anything further. Now, if I initiated the date, then I would expect to pay for the date. I feel there would be a double standard. What would happen if I reacted the same way if the guy ends up not being interested? Would it be kosher for me to demand he pay for the date in compensation for "wasting" my time, like some men see it as? But perhaps the communication can start beforehand, such as an agreement to split the bill. It's always good to come prepared. Going out to an affordable spot for the first and second date would cushion any blows to egos and budgets.
I have always paid my way or at least offered to...I'm a human being like everyone else and I'm not entitled to someone else paying my way.
It's easier for me because I'm gay, but I date women, and I'm used to whomever asks the other out pays in the beginning. As the relationship progresses, it's whoever has it. I'm not paying for every day just because I'm butch, although I will open a door or two.
Yeah just because you're butch doesn't mean you have to act like the "gentleman". I couldn't stand my friends partner because they would act like a jerky douche if they were denied acting like a "gentleman". They literally got upset and raised their voice to her because "I'm supposed to carry heavy things and open doors for you". No no P, you're supposed to be equal partners with her and not act like an àss.
Load More Replies...The women who want men to pay for the first date are the same women who scream how independent they are and tell us how they don't need no man. If you don't need a man.. then prove it. Pay for his dinner. Or pay for just yours.
No I always thought it was normal to go Dutch, because I'm Dutch, but my ex would not take my money. He refused. He had to pay. I felt so bad. But it's better. After we divorced I went out with guys who wanted me to pay all and I did, but you could take care of them and they refused to work. One wanted to split. No problem, but it's so stingy and just shows you don't really care about someone. You only care about money. He also asked me how much I made. No money wise ex was the best. We never have problems about money. We both want no child support, but I have helped him out and he has helped me out when he got more. Someone who cares about money is a red flag and also someone who wants you to pay, so I get how you're thinking and tbh I would advice my son to not go for a woman who always wants him to pay, but take one who really wants to pay, yet still pay for her. My ex paid all the food for months until he had no cent left and then he got my savings.
Load More Replies...I explained to my son that if he asks someone out then he pays unless she requests to go dutch. I firmly believe too that if someone asked my son out, then she should pay unless he requests dutch too. It's really just that simple
Having an incompatible zodiac sign does not justify treating someone like a red flag. Please stop this madness....
This is such a stupid thing. CARING about zodiac signs is a red flag, to me.
Agreed - anyone who takes that drivel seriously is well worth avoiding.
Load More Replies...I was going to ask if anyone else was thinking the same thing!
Load More Replies...The way a bunch of stars hundreds (or more) light years away from us (and from each other) line up from our perspective here on earth has exactly 0 bearing on our personalities. I usually just live and let live when it comes to this sort of thing, but when people take it seriously and judge others based on their astrological sign, this is a huge red flag for me.
Hey, you know, I think it's fine if people do that. If someone doesn't want me cause my star sign is a crab? Fine. That's who you are, I don't like it, moving on to next person. I'm not going to put someone down for believing in stars when there are religions based on virgin births.
How exactly is the light from stars that possibly don't even exist anymore, and are aligned into constellations in the human mind only and are in reality nowhere even close to each other, and not even remotely in the same position by the time their light reaches us, supposed to influence our lives? The scientific ignorance and lack of intelligence required to take astrology seriously would put that person completely out of the running for me.
I'm a Gemini, that's just the way I ammmmm!...No, Karen, you're a c*nt.
It's an interesting concept, but nothing I would take as seriously to live by.
If someone is so concerned about our compatibility due to horoscopes, then I will take a hard pass on that relationship.
Not answering the phone or the door just because someone is calling or knocking. Once upon a time if you couldn’t get a hold of your friend or family member right away you assumed they were already busy doing something and you found something else to do. If it was of actual importance you would leave a BRIEF message describing why you called.
Now if I don’t jump up off the toilet just to see who is knocking on my front door or calling my landline (I have bad cell reception where I live) without texting first people act like I’m dead or I’m being an a*****e. It’s so easy to text first that if you refuse to do it, I find *that* a red flag.
If i don't expect anyone, I don't need to answer the door if i don't want to. I don't like having unexpected visitors. My close friends and family knows this and always send a message.
Ex friend got angry because I didn't answer the door when she showed up out of the blue. I never answer the door unless I'm waiting for someone. If you can't bother to even send a text, take your anxiety inducing doorbell pushing someplace else. Btw. I had talked to her about having anxiety and being scared of surpriseses like that so it's not like she didn't know
Load More Replies...For whoever needs to hear this: You are not at the instantaneous beck and call of other people, and anybody who insists you should be is just rude and flat out wrong. Stand your ground on this one. You are not required to answer the door or the phone unless that's your literal job. Doors and phones are your tools to use as you will, you are not theirs.
The five people in the universe who have my cell phone number know that I may not even notice a text message for weeks or months.
Geeeeeez, a need to text first... ah, I miss the good old days. And no, I dont disagree with the jumping off the toilet thing, but if someone spent the time to travel to see you and you arent answering the door but home, I'd be peeved too.
If someone I didn't invite and don't want to see spent the time to travel to see me, why is that my problem?
Load More Replies...I remember doing online dating in AOL chatrooms (yes, I'm old.) I'd always say, "no same day appointments."
We order a lot from Amazon, so whenever someone rings my doorbell I just automatically yell "Thank you!" We don't have family close & all my friends know you don't just "drop by". I'm not antisocial (ok, maybe a little) but I have a chronic illness and I never know which day is gonna be the one where I never get out of my jammies (or put on a bra).
OMG - so I was WFH bookkeeper & the guy calls me, with a client in a conference call (which I had not been made aware of previously). I called back about 15 minutes later & he was LIVID. I let him rant for a bit and then just sweetly asked, "So, did you WANT to listen to me having explosive diarrhea or???"
Not wanting drama. It doesn't mean I cause drama, I've lived with drama and I truly won't put up with it, life is too short.
How is wanting drama usually considered a good thing? In pretty much any "red flag lists", from professional to BP, drama is on that list somewhere.
I know that there are some toxic people out there who shut down someone bringing up valid issues (quite often parents, if the child mentions how something the parent did made then feel) by saying they 'don't want any drama', and the person frames every criticism or concern as 'drama'. So the OP may have seen/heard someone pushing back against that, but didn't know the nuance of the 'red flag' complaint.
Load More Replies...I'm a drama free person, I don't wanna constantly feel like I'm back in high school
And we got to understand that meaningful conflicts and differences in opinions, as well as actual hurts and grievances, are not "drama". Drama is specifically conflict for conflict's sake.
It is drama and I wonder if there are ppl who get along so well that they don't have that, but I've had enough drama and I despise it, so I stay single and I bought a rabbit for company. If it had worked out w my ex, okay, but not again. No way. We get along now totally drama free.
Load More Replies...I only like other people's drama, I sure as heck don't want my own. What kind of maniac wants drama, and thinks not wanting it is bad? Run from that person at a high rate of speed.
TruthProfessional340 said:
Going to therapy
DetectiveBennett added:
Considering less than just two generations ago it wasn’t just a red flag but considered as admission of being really damaged, I don’t think society has accepted that it’s actually a good thing just yet. Boomers definitely used to think going to therapy/being in the “looney bin” was sign they were a bad person and I don’t think they’ve really seen the light on that yet. Hopefully our generations will completely break through these prejudices.
Agree & same for couples therapy. My mum assumed I was on verge of divorce but actually I think s positive thing we are staying on top of our sh** to maintain a healthy relationship.
Load More Replies...This "boomer" commends anyone who seeks therapy, and has several "boomer" relatives who are in therapy themselves. Personally, I find making assumptions about others on the basis of age, sex or race a huge red flag.
Stop blaming "boomers" for everything. This generation actually broke down a lot of barriers, including the notion that therapy was a bad thing.
Thank you. Think civil rights and equal rights amendment for starters.
Load More Replies...I think it wasn't Boomers, it was our parents that thought that. They *hush-hushed* everything, and the threat of people knowing the familys issues was HORRIBLE! "You will cause people to think badly of US!" Boomers were always willing to get help, and teaching their kids to be open and talk.
I'm a boomer and group therapy was a very common thing. But I lived about 2 hrs outside NYC so maybe that had something to do with it. Woody Allen/Diane Keaton movies were hugely popular at the time.
I meant during my high school years. Don't know about younger kids and I'm guessing it was common for adults too.
Load More Replies...Until the 1970s, for upper class Americans, being in therapy (long-term Freudian) was as commonplace as going to the dentist. It was assumed that complex people had some level of neuroses that were to be managed like regular automotive maintenance.
Going to therapy is a green flag, it means that the problem they have, they recognize it and are trying to get help/fix it
Having spent 45 years in therapy, I don't date people that haven't. Working on yourself proves you're not going to walk away the first time things get tough.
As someone who has struggled with major depressive disorder and serious suicide thoughts (and attempts) I seriously don't know where I would be right now if I didn't get therapy... It took me years to get the help I needed, so therapy for me is not a red flag but rather shows courage to admit something is not right or that you simply need help to deal with things. It's time for it to stop being a taboo.
Wanting and expecting your privacy to stay intact. I don't want my partner having my computer/phone passwords and I sure as hell don't want him snooping through my phone. I'm not hiding anything, but I am entitled to my privacy, and so is my partner.
Yes. I'm an extremely private person. I have nothing to hide but my business is my business
Reminds me of a great Marc Maron quote: "I have nothing to hide, but I have a lot to be embarrased about."
Agreed. An SO that feels entitled to your phone and computer passwords is the true red flag. That's a sign of a lack of trust and insecurity.
It's also about the privacy of your friends. Would anyone like if you'd been talking to your friend in confidence about let's say your health or relationship issues and the friends SO reads it all?
Demanding to know your partner's passwords and going through their phones is creepy.
Don't ask personal things if you don't want to be Put down hard and rudely!
Or God forbid they come across an email where you're b*tching to your Mother about THEM. I vent to my husband about just about everyone else in my life, but my Mom is the only person I would EVER complain about him to. It's never anything bad, because he's a really great guy. But when I find salsa remnants in the kitchen sink AGAIN, I want to lose my mind - but I certainly don't want to hurt his feelings either. He has so many other wonderful qualities, this is just not even worth mentioning (again, I have brought it to his attention).
My phone is open and I don't have passwords. So if my husband wants to take a look at anything I have on either phone or computer, I have nothing to hide.
Not going to college
I plan to go personally but some people dont. I've been raised to believe people who go to college have their life together or are smarter than the average person. I've learned pretty quickly that people who don't go to college aren't stupid or anything. Some just have a different life path or can't afford it or found a job or buisness that works out better than any colleges opportunities would've given.
College doesn't define a person's worth. It's just an expensive tool to get some people where they want to be.
Agreed, in the past years i have reconsidered if college is even worth it, with how much debt it puts you into.
Some careers of people I know who didn't go to college: Maker of artisan furniture and even larger projects out of wood (well payed and in demand), Restoration of antique cars for enthusiasts, Accounting, Department store floor manager (interior decorating section) and White hat cyber security expert. Going to college depends on what you want to do.
As someone who taught college for 30 years, I can guarantee you that formal education has little to do with intelligence.
I get the sense that people who haven't gone to college have a bizarre interpretation of what it actually entails. The majority of folks went to a University to get a job that simply requires that level of education. This has nothing to do with intelligence really. I think we all agree that we want our medical professional, Engineers, Scientist, Teachers to have a certain level of education.
An honor graduate of my high school was paid $20/hour to be a draftsperson in '80. Adjusted for inflation she made a whole lot more than a lot of university graduates I know.
According to Google, that is a $159k/year salary today.
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Not posting pictures with friends on your dating profile. Some people assume you’re anti-social and not pleasant to be around, but I choose not to because I feel weird to post pictures of other people than myself.
I would think it's weird to post pics of your friends... it's a dating site, why would one ever post anyone other than just themselves.
I've seen profiles and every picture is a group of people. Like which one are you? How am I supposed to know? I'm sure the last thing someone wants to hear is "oops, sorry. I thought you were the one in the middle, good luck"
I don't go around posting pictures of my friends with me because I don't feel like it is right to post other people pictures without their permission first. And I don't want to announce to everyone that I will be posting this picture that I am taking on social media because that is not the purpose of the original idea of me to take the picture. I take pictures because I want to have memories of this or that time not to brag to people that I don't know.
I had no idea that was a thing. Every pic on my profile is just me.
I sometimes post one single group photo of myself if I think I look good in the photo. But otherwise stick to photos of myself. Some profiles I’ve seen guys don’t have a single solo photo of themselves and the group photos always have 2-3 common people in every photo so u don’t even know who tf the person even is and that’s an instant nope for me. Same if I have to scroll through 4+ photos before u give a photo of ur face (if u even give a photo of ur face and not all distance and backside shots)
Or not posing for pictures and upload it to social media.Yes, I am enjoying cappuccino in local café. No, I don't need to take selfies and immediately post them online.
Please stop using this phrase "anti-social" this way. It's too confusing with "anti-social personality disorder" which is a very different thing than just not being super extroverted. Saul from Better Call Saul would be a good example of someone with anti-social personality disorder.
Being quiet.
Everyone thinks I’m autistic or a nerd or something. I have no f*****g clue. I kind of shut up about it because I don’t care and I’m not there to try and prove to anyone anything or tell them they are wrong. It’s actually a good filter for me actually. But every one that works with me, or has to be around me for a long enough time, over time, realizes I’m a pretty cool dude and like to do fun s**t.
Someone even told me, “ya know mathaiser, I thought you were a huge dork but you’re actually pretty cool.”
So, what red flag is that? Being kinda quiet/shy. Just because I’m not pressing whatever advantage or peacocking there is, kinda adds to my quality imo. But I don’t think about it like that either. Just trying to explain it.
Could not agree more. I see that trend on tiktok and other social media that's like, "when the quiet kid gets insulted", and basically its always just the quiet kid getting stereotyped into being violent/ weird.
What's kinda frustrating is that the stereotype can be correct. Some people who are quiet have a temper, but not everyone.
Load More Replies...Some people also mistakenly assume that if you are being quiet, you are a good listener and they just can go on and on and on with their rants to you. That's not true. If I'm interested, I'm trying to participate in the conversation, and if I'm quiet. it means I'm bored with this conversation, spacing out and thinking about all the places I'd rather be right now.
Quiet is good. Usually means the person is either actively listening, or internally processing. Both 👍 (in my opinion)
..or it could mean that they don't see that they actually have anything to contribute with at the moment, and instead of hugging the spotlight for its own sake, and boring people with a story that is irrelevant for the current subject, they let it shine on other people, until they again are ready to help/contribute. When in a group you cannot expect to talk more than half of the time, without risking stepping on somebody's toes, so the more people the les you should say.
Load More Replies...My quiet cousin married a chatterbox and my chatterbox cousin found a quiet spouse. Both are very happy. The best comments do come from the quiet ones imho, because they take the time to make their opinion known in five words or less and then it's back to happy listening
I talked, and talked, and talked all day at my last job. I didn't want to make a peep afterwards to rest my voice and mouth. My Canadian accent doesn't even feel natural nor comfortable to me, or at least the script I had to read didn't. But my mom and everyone wanted to have conversations with me, would comment how quiet I am. Like leave me alone. You talk for a change.
Anyone who's known me for any length of time knows when I get quiet, it's time for you to run.
when i was adopted at 12, i was mute until i was 20,or so, just never said anything, and then it was 5 years before i spoke outside the family, i was mute from trauma [threats of "you talk you die, person will die if you talk} but that was over when i was adopted but i still acted like it by not talking, so you never know why someone is quiet
Setting personal boundaries.
I'm not a cuddler but that doesn't mean I don't want you near me. People don't get that.
Makes sense to me. I'm a hugger, but I know not everyone is keen on being touched, which I didn't learn until I was an adult. This is why I ask, especially with Covid still being around
Load More Replies...Being self aware is a critical part of personal development. Everyone has personal boundaries whether they realize it or not.
No, but there are those who treat it as such. Maybe that's what OP meant.
Load More Replies...Boundaries can be positive because they say "Yes, you are welcome to come this close."
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Being weird in an innocent way. Like society shuns anyone who thinks outside a set of parameters. When really its just a different way to view the world.
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Agree. I also don't know why everyone feels the need to try and diagnose weirdness as autistic or ADHD or whatever, too. Why does there need to be an excuse for it? And why would a literal disability be the only thing to absolve that? People need to stop trying to railroad others just because they don't understand them. Some people are just built differently. They don't have to understand it, they just have to respect it.
I happen to yell 'SLAYER!' really loud every.single.time, someone says the word or I talk about the band....yes, people look and think I'm crazy.... I do love Slayer...and it is Slayer, soooooo....but I'm a grandma now so maybe its not acceptable anymore 🤣🤣 🤣. SLAYER! 🤘
That's fkn awesome..... Years ago we'd sit around and think what old age homes would be like when all us old punks, goths and headbangers get there!
Load More Replies...Absolutely normalize innocent weirdness, that also helps those who do have disabilities not feel like such outsiders. And even if they don't, they'll feel less like an outsider as well. I will say though, that a lot more people who have ADHD and are on the autistic spectrum than most realize... and there's nothing wrong with that. A lot of people never realize that they're either.
Being weird innocently or just being yourself comfortably is not a bad thing and shows to me that you are accepting of yourself. However, ADHD and autism are not labels but disorders. People are affected by it in their daily lives and need (depending on how severe) treatment. Telling them they are just build differently is not gonna help them. However, whether someone has a disorder or is just weird, everyone deserves respect.
And to add to this, a diagnosis for ADHD can come as a relief for a lot of people. Like, they're not looking for attention, or special treatment, but simply to understand themselves a bit better, and to work as an advocate for it as well to help break the very stigma this post is perpetuating.
Load More Replies...Being on the spectrum or some attention issues aren't the huge issue in dating that people think either. Yes, many people who are a bit weird might fill the diagnoses, but that's not who you're dating. You're dating a person not their medical file
Without people thinking differently we wouldn't have art of any form.
Not owning a car. Idk how that's a red flag for some people, but personally I think public transport is superior
It depends on the area. Where I live, there is some public transportation, but it's infrequent. It would take 3 hours to get somewhere by bus that I can drive to in 20 minutes. So, yeah, not having a car where I live would be weird. When I lived in a big city, I didn't even own a car.
Yeah. Living now in an area where people often park cars near the metro so they don't have to find parking in the city center so a car would be less than useless. On the other hand where my grandparents used to live they had two busses a day from a stop three kilometers away and to the closest grocery store it was about twenty km. Need of a car depends on your local infra
Load More Replies...I've never bothered to learn to drive. Even if I did have a license I wouldn't be able to afford a car, anyways. There's lots of public transit in my city. I never call to ask someone to drive me anywhere. I'm pretty self-sufficient. But I my step-mom holds judgement towards me, ignoring the busses, and assumes I ask for rides. But she barely knows my life considering I only talk to that side of my family once or twice a year, if that. So, she knows zip. Other family has asked when I'm getting my license. I just don't want that responsibility that I don't feel I'm medically capable of.
Some people are self sufficient with public transit and maybe an odd taxi or two. That’s absolutely fine. I do believe it depends on multiple factors which comes down to each individual persons needs/wants. U are self sufficient and even and odd time asking for a lift isn’t a bad thing. Someone who refused to take public transport and is always hitting people up for lifts is a completely different ball game
Load More Replies...I think that one depends on where you live. I'm about 7 miles from the nearest bus stop, the bus only comes about 3 times a day, and it doesnt go anywhere I need to go. Public transit in rural U.S. leaves a LOT to be desired.
The county I live in has enough empty plots of land that can be used to make a station so we could have our own bus system. Instead: apartments, townhomes and condos that only the wealthy can afford are being built like you wouldn't believe
Load More Replies...Depends on location. Rural transport in the UK, and even in the large town I live in, leaves a lot to be desired.
Absolutely agree, it does depend on location. I'm in the UK and where I live there are a number of small villages surrounding a small market town. For some reason most of the villages have really bad public transport. Bar my village. Buses start early and run all day, long into the evening and all weekend. No idea why it's so good when the others are not. The market town has many buses, excellent rail links - eg a direct line to London and to Gatwick Airport. Very lucky in that respect.
Load More Replies...Do you really want a blind person with the functional use of one eye with no depth perception and no peripheral vision to be driving?
I never had an issue with this until my last ex who legitimately told me that when I was home from work (I work out of town) it was my “responsibility” to drive him wherever he wanted whenever he wanted because “in relationships people have to make concessions & since I drive & he doesn’t I have to concede & drive him” he didn’t like when I told him to go f@ck himself because I’m not his personal chauffeur especially when I had to fight with him to even pitch in some gas as he made 40% more in wages then I did. He also at one point tried to blame me for him missing out on his time with his son (previous relationship) because I was sick of his entitlement and refused to drive 1/2hour to pick up his kid & at the end of the weekend drive 1/2hour to drop off his kid & told him to Uber or take a train/bus like every other adult who doesn’t drive & has shared custody does. But in his eyes it was my responsibility & I was the b!tch. So now, I’m a bit more picky about a partner having a car
That's totally absurd and plain lazy! I don't have a drivers license, but my SO does. We have a car, so if we are going somewhere together, we use the car often. But when I need to go anywhere alone, I absolutely don't expect to be driven. I'll go by bike or public transport. That's just basic independency and self-sufficiency.
Load More Replies...Canada too :( But it also depends on work as well! Like when I lived in my old city and was in office work I found an amazing place that was 6 blocks away from my work and it was also about 4-8 blocks away from multiple grocery stores and everything I needed so I didn’t need to have a car. When I switched careers I had to have a car as now I drive 1hr each way to/from work 4-6 days a week. I would not be able to do my job without a car unless I only did fly in fly out jobs and even then it’s tough sometimes and I’m loving my “town” work right now.
Load More Replies...I do to, BUT, Texas doesn't have Good Public transit Statewide .I don't think they will get off their asses and make it happen either!
Jealousy. It’s a human emotion. Feeling jealousy isn’t a red flag. Now, punching the wall, or taking that feeling of jealousy out on a person IS a red flag.
It depends on how the person deals with those jealous feelings. Feeling jealous is normal, it's how the person acts on it and justifies it that matters.
Hmmm. It can be a red flag at times, like when it gets too much, but i agree with this.
Sorry, to me open jealousy IS a red flag. I think it's a psychological flaw (like paranoia or invasive thoughts) that needs to be recognized as such and corrected.
I agree. It’s not normal. I have never really experienced that emotion in my adult years that I can think of. There’s a lack of empathy there for the object of those jealous feelings. To not recognize that life is a struggle for everyone no matter how wealthy or beautiful is a serious character flaw.
Load More Replies...Jealousy often implies the need for control and possession over another. Also a lack of trust and insecurity. This for me would be a red flag although it would be understandable if the other person shows untrustworthy behavior. Either way it’s not healthy so it is still a no from me.
Jealousy can also be a cultural thing. Jealous can be a good flag to start a discussion. Communication is important. Compromise is important.
Uh yeah it is. Jealousy is not an emotion, it's something you always need to unpack and examine and take responsibility for dismantling immediately.
Jealousy is very much an emotion, and there are indeed situations where it waranted, e.g. when your partner is cheating on you. Comparing what you got with what others have to offer is a human trait, and can motive you to get back in the game, instead of accepting defeat too soon. A little jealosy can be a good thing, as seeing what other people can/have can help you set goals for what you want to achieve. So don't try to dismiss it immediately as flaw, but try to understand it and analyse what causes it.
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Not having any prior sexual or relationship experience
You've got to start somewhere....but I see how this could be a red flag. Talk to each other on the phone, voice to voice. Ask questions - it won't take but a few questions to figure this out. You can't hide crazy!
In regards to the last sentence, I've tried. I'm what some people call "the good kind of crazy" and I don't know how I feel about it
Load More Replies...Age doesn't matter. If you haven't found someone you connected with to be sexually intimate with that's not a red flag. I find it sweet that a person wants it to be meaningful and doesn't just drop their drawers for the sake of it. And let's not forget some people suffer trauma and are less inclined to jump into bed; it takes time to feel comfortable and secure enough for some people
Personally for me it would be red flag if someone had (too) many relationships. There is high chance it won't last and I want relationship which will last. (I'm with my boyfriend for more years and we both want that and we both didn't have any relationship before and I was in mid 20s and he in early 30s when we started dating.)
I don't see why we automatically have to have knowledge about this it's stupid
This is so terrifying to me. I'm 36 and until the age of 32 I didn't care at all about relationships, sex or intimacy or any of all that. Never even held someones hand. Since I'm quite an unattractive guy, I never really had a chance with a girl so I decided not to care so I don't go through inevitable rejection and heartache. At 32 it hit me like a train that maybe I'm missing out on many good things and emotions that everyone else has experienced in their life. The problem is that no girl wants to talk to someone at my age with 0 experience, as I've been told by all my female friends and family memebers. They said that every girl would think I'm a creep and a weirdo for not having any romantic experience for all those years and they'll expect things from me that I can't provide or even understand. So I'm stuck in this situation for 4 years now and it's exactly as they said it would be and it hurts a lot, but I can't get out of it...
Being “clingy”. Now ACTUALLY being clingy and overstepping boundaries IS a red flag. But these days a lot of things that are perceived as clingy are just people showing genuine interest as opposed to trying to “play it cool.” Just my opinion though.
I beleive this may be a comment made by someone who didn't click with the person they went out with and couldn't put a finger on what wasn't right so they just threw this out there.
Gonna have to disagree here. Being clingy is most definitely different that showing genuine interest, there's no real misperception. Texting me once a day to just say hi is showing genuine interest, texting me every few hours is being clingy (and gets you noped).
Yeah agree. I'm lucky in that I'm no longer around people that believe this. Everyone has different needs and you WILL find someone who matches up with how much attention you need, I promise you will. Everyone needs different amounts and can give different amounts and you just gotta find people you're compatible with, in friendship and partnership and so on.
The red flag about no friends or being a loner etc bugs me especially at Christmas. Every TV advert shows Christmas with friends and family, being the life and soul of the party and no one says it is OK to be alone (not lonely) at Christmas.
I stopped celebrating christmas YEARS ago, but every year still, without failure, someone says I can come over to theirs. I appreciate the concern, but I WANT to be alone that day, making myself some good food. I work in retail, so I have long-a$$ days in December, plus working until the evening before. I NEED and CRAVE those 3 days off to myself.
Load More Replies...The people who think These are red flags seam to be very insecure or full of red flags themselves
Agreed. And some of them also transpired some moral superiority which might be the red flag for me.
Load More Replies...My husband and I sleep in separate rooms. No, we're not in trouble, we have different schedules and he has sleep apnea. He likes the TV on all night, I sleep with white noise that makes him have to pee. We do different things when we're tired but have the most fun together otherwise. It's been awesome 😁
If we live in a world where not wanting to do something insignificant immediately, being linked to the internet 24/7 or (worse) wanting to play with your children are deemed to be red flags then I really think it's those who THINK this way that are the issue...
The red flag about no friends or being a loner etc bugs me especially at Christmas. Every TV advert shows Christmas with friends and family, being the life and soul of the party and no one says it is OK to be alone (not lonely) at Christmas.
I stopped celebrating christmas YEARS ago, but every year still, without failure, someone says I can come over to theirs. I appreciate the concern, but I WANT to be alone that day, making myself some good food. I work in retail, so I have long-a$$ days in December, plus working until the evening before. I NEED and CRAVE those 3 days off to myself.
Load More Replies...The people who think These are red flags seam to be very insecure or full of red flags themselves
Agreed. And some of them also transpired some moral superiority which might be the red flag for me.
Load More Replies...My husband and I sleep in separate rooms. No, we're not in trouble, we have different schedules and he has sleep apnea. He likes the TV on all night, I sleep with white noise that makes him have to pee. We do different things when we're tired but have the most fun together otherwise. It's been awesome 😁
If we live in a world where not wanting to do something insignificant immediately, being linked to the internet 24/7 or (worse) wanting to play with your children are deemed to be red flags then I really think it's those who THINK this way that are the issue...
