Get Premium
Dark mode theme is available exclusively for premium users. Learn more about the benefits of subscribing.
No fees, cancel anytime.
Dark Mode 
No fees, cancel anytime 
then open in external browser
and click "Open in External Browser" 
Every family has their secrets, it's only natural. Some things are just so foul and wrong that they just have to stay in the family. Some of them even go to the grave.
Sharing these dark secrets is very brave, considering the taboo topics that might come up. I ask you, oh brave pandas, to share some of the darkest ones that you have. I put a trigger warning in advance, since I'm aware that some of you might go into some really dark stuff. This thread might not be for the weakest of stomachs.
This post may include affiliate links.
#1
My father is the youngest of 13 kids. But actually my grandparents only had 9 kids. Grandpa ran a farm and had a truck to deliver the produce from his and the surrounding farms. During WW2 he drove to Amsterdam to deliver food and secretly brought back Jewish boys. He hid them on his farm pretending they were his kids. Partially very nice of him, but he also just needed extra hands to work. After the war most of the boys went home to family members, but 4 of them had no remaining family. He officially adopted those 4 boys and just went on as if they had always been part of the family.
Final score:
646points
Danyelka 3 years ago
And saved lifes. Only 5000 of over 100.000 Jews deported from Netherlads survived.
Load More Replies...
Randolph Croft 3 years ago
Old-school farming. Before all the machinery making it easier, farm-hands and family were pretty much the only way it succeeded.
Huddo's sister 3 years ago
My grandfather was the youngest of 8 boys. During WW2 five brothers signed up, and then the government decided that was enough from one family. This left only three boys to help run the farm, which was really hard at times.
Load More Replies...
guyx23 3 years ago
Why would this be a secret though? Your grandad is a hero. Was he recognized as "righteous among the nations"?
Zedrapazia 3 years ago
It probably was a secret during the war time for obvious reasons
Load More Replies...
Raccoon panda 3 years ago (edited)
I’m glad there’s a story of kindness on here. This deserves to be top. Some of the horror stories on here make me wanna vomit, because of how cruel humans can be.
Dan Padgett 3 years ago
To celebrate it, may actually tarnish the action. No doubt he was a good guy but humble. Many people don't discuss wartime stories and they are uncovered when they die.
Load More Replies...
RELATED:
#2
My uncle had always been a raging alcoholic. A dangerous alcoholic. Well, my aunt married him anyways. They went to Germany for their honeymoon. Only he returned. We asked about the aunt and he pretended like he had no idea what we were talking about and how he has "never gotten married".
About five years later he married again despite us all trying to tell the woman not to. They went to Jamaica for their honeymoon. Same thing. He came back without her. Again pretended like he's never married. We began suspecting he was k***ing them. We called the police. They investigated. Nothing turned up. And then the years later, he married again. But COVID happened and they haven't gone on a honeymoon.
We're not sure she'd believe us if we told her. So we have distanced ourselves from my uncle and he remains as the secret we don't talk about. We don't talk about Bruno type situation.
Final score:
355points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
Absolutely! This is insanity! Sounds like the police didn't do enough checking or something. There should be a paper trail, right... Marriage license, plane tickets, passport, hotel stay, return plane tickets; used & unused, any insurance money??? Where are all these documents? It's overdue to name and shame him. Find these women! Where the hêll are they, they didn't just fall off the face of the earth? They said they asked questions about their aunt, but when the lady didn't come back from Jamaica, what about her family? Did her family ask questions? What answers did they get? Have both families gotten together to compare notes, pool resources, go to police together to put more pressure on them, or discuss getting a private detective? Blast it on the internet, let everyone work for you and hopefully someone with extra capabilities and knowledge will come forward to help. Let's make this happen!
Load More Replies...
Mobey Drunk 3 years ago
I think this is well past family secret. This is a murder investigation.
Caprichosa 3 years ago
But, if he legally married and didn't get divorce from the first wife, how was able to get married again? Something doesn't add up 🤔
Leodavinci 3 years ago
Exactly. Marriages are a part of public records. There would be evidence he got married... unless he got married somewhere they don't keep such records.
Load More Replies...
Whodathunkit 3 years ago
Wait...weren't friends or family members of the women wondering what happened to them? Surely there must have been an investigation. This doesn't make sense.
Nubis Knight 3 years ago
If the women had no family left and distanced herself from her friends nobody might ask any questions. Perhaps he's looking for this kind of woman?
Load More Replies...
Jennifer Braswell 3 years ago
More likely human trafficking. I don't mean to be morbid, but I'd rather be murdered than trafficked
Load More Replies...
Parmeisan 3 years ago
I mean my mind is jumping to murder same as everybody else, but I feel obligated to point out that it could be much more ho-hum than that. Could be he managed to hide his true, abusive drunk self up until both honeymoons, at which point each wife decided to hightail it out of that relationship and left him. Divorce/annulment/whatever so he was legally free to marry again. No families asking questions and the police found nothing suspicious, because there wasn't anything suspicious. And he just really didn't want to talk about it. ~shrug~ Or murder.
Kelzbelz79 3 years ago
This sounds dodgy all around, you all asked questions after the first time but left it unresolved even after it happened a second time? 🤔🤔
#3
Trigger warning! VERY dark!
My mother and my father started dating when they were just 18.
My mother got pregnant soon after.
My grandmother made my mom ingest large doses of quinine every day (which is a big health risk by itself!), and inserted a small plastic item in her uterus.
This led - as planned- to a late miscarriage on the toilet when my mom was about 20 weeks pregnant.
The baby boy was alive and „as big as a doll“ (quoting my mother).
She k***ed and dismembered the fetus and flushed the parts down the toilet.
Then she went back to sit at the table with the guests they had that day to have coffee and later dinner.
My mom grew to be as cruel and cold as her own mom.
She did something similar to me, when I was just 15 and unfortunately got pregnant.
She and a gynecologist told me the baby was sick, and the pregnancy had to be terminated.
I believed them.
A few days later I had to go there, to get the abortion. My mom gave me an envelope with about (converted) 8000$.
The abortion was performed without any kind of local anaesthesia.
I lost consciousness a few times, they fastened me to the gyn chair.
Part of my soul will stay there forever.
The doctor forced me to take a good look at the destroyed embryo „so that I would never do what I did again!“
When I came home traumatized and in shock, my mom said, that „I should pull myself together and that she had suffered so much more!“
Then she told me her abortion story.
I wish she never had told me.
Years later, when we had a fight, she dropped that my baby had been absolutely healthy.
Final score:
303points
Tina BlackForrest (Submission author) 3 years ago
In a way she is. But somehow she always manages to play the victim. Even my father is always on her side.
Load More Replies...
Shyla Clay 3 years ago
Your mother is not only abusive, but what she did to her grandchild can only be classified as murder. Please know that you were a victim, and what happened wasn't your fault.
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Tina, What a traumatic and sad story. I'm very sorry to hear this and I hope you have NO contact with her because your mum is horrible. Are you ok now? Hugs.
Tina BlackForrest (Submission author) 3 years ago
Hi Caro, thanks for the good wishes and the hug. I am not okay, have been in and out of psychiatric clinics, especially since my second son has been born 2017. I have major depressive episodes every 1-1,5 years, anxiety, OCD, self harming behavior and complex PTSD. I would like to go no contact, but my husband keeps the contact for the kids. And he likes my parents…
Load More Replies...
Tina BlackForrest (Submission author) 3 years ago
She thinks, she helped me with the abortion.
Load More Replies...
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
That isn't a mom. That's a captor. And that doctor is criminal. Gentle hugs.
Tina BlackForrest (Submission author) 3 years ago
Thank you for the gentle hugs.
Load More Replies...
June’s Very Own 3 years ago
What the actual f**k? This woman doesn’t deserve you or any other innocent child! I hope your doing on now
Susie Elle 3 years ago
Your mother is a monster, OP. Nobody deserves that, I hope you're getting the love and care you do deserve now.
Tina BlackForrest (Submission author) 3 years ago
She is a special kind of monster, yes. Not really getting much love from my husband, but maybe it is me who‘s keeping my distance… But I have two wonderful sons, which I love with all my heart and soul.
Load More Replies...
Alias Delfs 3 years ago
Ok I am NOT an anti abortionist but there are some limits, she broke all of them what a horrible witch
Tina BlackForrest (Submission author) 3 years ago
She did, and she is. But she things that she has been a good mother and did well.
Load More Replies...
Lois Matelan 3 years ago
Don't think I believe this one . . .A 20-week fetus is about 10 ounces and "the size of a bell pepper." Also, $8000 seems EXTREMELY expensive for an abortion. What mother would tell this story?
#4
At twenty-one, when I asked my mother why I had no siblings, she confided that I had actually been born a twin and my brother had died because I "choked him" with my umbilical cord. She said I must never tell anyone or mention it to my father because he was still upset "that it was the boy who had died". I had wanted a brother or sister all my life so was deeply sad and felt incredibly guilty to the point where I unsuccessfully attempted to end my life. (There was other stuff going on too - death of my boyfriend of five years - so I was already in a dark place.)
Years later when I was carrying my own twins I began to realise that parts of her story seemed unusual and looked into my birth records. And here's the darkest bit - it turns out there never was a twin. I never confronted her.
Final score:
282points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
I'm very sorry. That's a heinous thing to say to someone. Your mother is seriously morally bankrupt. That's extremely disturbing. I would have to share what she did to me with my immediate family members. Who knows what kinds of things she may be trying to manipulate others with.
Lavinia Pitts 3 years ago
i'm so sorry. i have a twin and he's honestly a nuisance but i can't imagine someone pretending i killed him before birth :(
MellonCollie 3 years ago
Whaaaatt?!?! FFS, jesus christ, I am so angry!!! Jezus fcking christ, that is horrible!!!! I am so, so sorry for you.
BlahBlahBlackSheepah 3 years ago (edited)
Does your dad think there was a twin too? Or did she only say this to you? Either way it's aw ful and I'm sorry you have this cruel experience
Monsen 3 years ago
I guess the father doesnt know that she told OP this. The "you musnt tell your father"-part - a classic
Load More Replies...
Legen ( wait for it ) dary 3 years ago
Why ? Just why? Why would you tell this to your kid even if it was true ? And at the end is a lie. Your mom is a f**k up person. So sick.
Blue Cicada 3 years ago
I had a client who was born in 1943. The umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck, causing cerebral palsy. Her mom told her it was her fault that she was a "cripple". She even called her by the nickname "Patsy" her whole life. I met her as an angry, bitter old woman. It was difficult enough growing up in the 40s and 50s with obvious physical signs of cerebral palsy. In addition to the horrible treatment from her peers and adult strangers, she had to deal with her mother's c**p.
SoozeeQ 3 years ago
Oh wow. Your poor client. Growing up with cerebral palsy is difficult enough, let alone being in the 40s.
Load More Replies... #5
My cousin is really my sister. My Aunt and Uncle couldn't have kids so my parents did for them.
Final score:
226points
BittyTown (Submission author) 3 years ago
No, they were supposed to tell her and didn't. She is the only one that does not know. I feel bad but it isn't my place.
Load More Replies...
Paul Beebe 3 years ago
In Polynesia and most Pacific Islands this is called Hanai. My Sister in law's first husband was shooting blanks and so her brother and sis in law, who were having lots of kids, decided that they would give her their next baby. She is my niece, but 2 years younger than me and she knows the whole story. Islanders created an awesome way to fix a sad situation.
Legen ( wait for it ) dary 3 years ago
Besides feeling bad about that she doesn't know about, how do you feel about having a cousin sister ? Hiw old is she ? When i read your story it sounds like a beautiful lovely kind thing your parents did. Sorry for all the questions, but normally posts are feom other websites and we have no chance to speak with authors.
BittyTown (Submission author) 3 years ago (edited)
She is 24. Unfortunately they do not really get together unless it is a major holiday so I don't really get to see her. I am close with my brothers and sister and would have most definitely would have loved to have that bond with her. I think if she knew she would have made more of an effort to see us. Also, my Dad passed away and they didn't come to the hospital, funeral or the wake so she never got to say goodbye or ever even get to know to my Dad which really upsets me.
Load More Replies... SoozeeQ 3 years ago
My uncle (who is now 90) was raised by his grandma, who he thought was his mother. His "much older sister" was actually his mother. Apparently, this happened a lot in those days, particularly if it was out-of-wedlock. ("Mother" would go away with "teenage daughter" for a few weeks/months, and come back with "her new baby". Sometimes, she would pretend to be pregnant herself, for that whole time, so that nobody would suspect).
MellonCollie 3 years ago
Why would you want to keep that a secret? It's a beautiful thing to help another couple to have children.
BittyTown (Submission author) 3 years ago
No, they were supposed to tell her and didn't. She is the only one that does not know. I feel bad but it isn't my place.
Load More Replies...
#6
It’s actually f*cking awesome. Grandfather's great aunt by marriage ran the most notorious brothel in Sydney and had a lifelong feud with another brothel owner. She did go to the other madam's funeral when she died, but as reported by the newspaper “just to make sure the old b***h stays in the ground”. The whole feud started over a dog breeding scam! RIP Tilly Devine
Final score:
208points
Susie Elle 3 years ago
I'm having trouble regarding a brothel as 'awesome', as you never know under what circumstances the workers had to do their jobs, but I guess it is a cool story :)
Randolph Croft 3 years ago
If this is Sydney Australia, they have legal and regulated prostitution. It's like physical therapy.
Load More Replies...
Rosesinmyhair 3 years ago
Loved the Underbelly Razor series. Probs. A lot of artistic licence taken but a very interesting Australian story!
Broad Panda 3 years ago
Came here to say the same. My fav season of Underbelly, by far.
Load More Replies...
Tiny Dancer 3 years ago
She was much more than a madam! I don't know, I think I'd be kind of proud to have this woman in my family. Notorious! https://dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/tilly_devine
MMcD 3 years ago
I found similar info. She isn’t someone to brag you’re related to. Maybe the poster hasn’t read about Matilda and Kate Leigh.
Load More Replies...
Jette Wang Wahnon 3 years ago
HOOORAY for colourful ancesters....I have some myself...make great dinner conversations
Andrea Careless 3 years ago
Not awesome at all. Brothels weren’t populated by happy, fun-loving, healthy women for the most part. That’s a big lie.
Crissie Laugesen 3 years ago
A brother keeper and involved in a dog breeding scam. Awesome? Nope.
Helen Witten 3 years ago
Oh Tilly was notorious indeed. They even made a series about her. One tough cookie that's for sure.
Susan Bosse 3 years ago
My bio father's gf was a madam in Texarkana TX. She was shot between the eyes. Her murder was never solved. This was early 70s. Her name was Shirley. He didn't raise me but I can remember meeting her a few times before I was 5. I didn't see him after that. I thank God for my daddy almost daily. He's been my dad since I was 3 (now 53).
#7
If you met my dad, you’d think he was a soft faced and gentle old doctor and a pretty cool guy for acting young, being a good father, living to fish and drink beer, and being willing to build you a deck. You’d think he loved God by the way he talks.
Well, he’s a p***phile who spent my childhood grooming me. He exposed himself at me every day when I was little, and got unusually jealous whenever I showed a little skin in public as a teenager. The way he hugged and kissed me was creepy, and I was afraid to say no. He told me my developing body was making me more likely to be “sold into white slavery and a** r*ped” and that I’d be r*ped by strange men if I showed my shoulders or danced. Yeah, he was racist and sexist. And as a young adult who still didn’t understand, he apologized convincingly, then began using me to emotionally cheat on the wife he hates, treating me like a girlfriend. And then he’d try controlling me financially when I lost my job.
He also beat, intimidated, and controlled my mother, who then took out her frustration on me. She told me I was ugly every chance she got. He told everyone that she was the crazy one. He wouldn’t let her have a job. He was verbally, emotionally, psychologically, financially, and sexually abusive to an extreme level, to the point I developed DID and nearly 60 alters as a result of how he treated all of us.
When his wife got into an affair with a man who gave her a little escape, he cheated in revenge with a woman who had the same name as himself. Textbook narcissist womanizer. Then he cheated with a woman who was hideous, just because pitying her made him feel better about himself. Being her “hero” made him feel better about himself. She was none the wiser that it wasn’t her he was cheating for. He blamed my mother for the entire divorce.
My mother wasn’t innocent, either. She brainwashed me like the fricken winter soldier. Used me as a weapon in the divorce. I really thought it was my fault. So I falsely confessed the divorce was my fault. As if a thirteen year old with autism could be a proficient manipulator. And he never stopped hating me. I was already the black sheep, but now it was so much worse. He often called me by my mother’s name when angry. He k***ed my pets on purpose. He kept buying pets, waiting for me to get attached, and then k***ed them. Over a hundred of them. I eventually stopped getting attached. I had nobody. When I finally understood that I was being mocked by my friends at school, I was alone. I cut everyone out to protect myself, and spent six years in isolation. He blamed me for all the bullying. Daily, he would say things so vile and cruel that I had to dissociate. When I told the school counselor I was s*****al, he showed up all goody two shoes to fix his reputation, and then when I got home, he called me things I wouldn’t repeat, and his new wife called me a traitor.
His second wife had a vile, mannerless, cruel son, and I had to come home to the school bully every day. He and his two brothers would gang up on me. Then the kid did something messed up on a whole different level. He and his brothers cornered me in the garage. He did the unpardonable sin, and led the other two to do it, too. Basically eternal murder-s**ide before my eyes. He was disappointed when I wouldn’t follow suit. But basically, I’ll never have a brother in heaven, which is my waking nightmare.
When I found Christ, my parents became more and more cruel, and I just tried to be a good child despite it. When he wasn’t preoccupied with making my life a living hell, he just drank a lot of alcohol and avoided me. When he felt guilty, he’d buy gifts I don’t want I at of be there for me, listen to me, or God-forbid apologize. I suffer from DID, PTSD, self loathing, depression, anxiety, anger issues, social anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, and chronic insomnia. Nobody believed me or tried to save me for 21 years. So I cut him out, but he still harasses me. I wish I was never born.
Final score:
204points
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Trash Panda, I'm deeply sorry to read your story. If I had the power I would fly to you right now, take you in my arms and HUG you with all my might. I Want you to know that all the terrible things that have happened are NOT YOUR FAULT. You are lovely and beautiful and kind and caring. I love you and if you need to talk I'm here for you. HUGS and a big kiss from me (and they are Auntie Caro Hugs and Kisses).
Trash Panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
Thanks Caro. I needed to hear that🦝
Load More Replies...
Raccoon panda (Submission author) 3 years ago (edited)
Can anyone else just indiscriminately give all these supportive people a round of likes? I can only give one each, and I think everyone’s really restoring my faith in humanity. ☺️ Edit: You guys just gave me a d*mn good idea for a more pro-social (instead of antisocial) social media site! Though BP is on the right track, generally.
Trash Panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
You guys are sweet. I really hope you have bright futures, no matter what you’ve seen. They may walk free on earth, but not in hell. God have mercy on him, because if I were the judge, I honestly feel like I wouldn’t. Hell isn’t as much about fire as reliving all the terrible things a person has done all at once, and being eaten from the inside. And that feeling will never change for eternity. A monstrous person is apart from love, they are separated from every truth that says they have value. Everything they sought to project on their victims. There is no love in hell, and those lies of worthlessness and filth eat at the void that’s left. It’s more horrible than any fate on earth. Heaven is being apart from lies, with nothing eat you from the inside, and where remorse heals you, rather than destroying you like regret. All that stands is your worth. You always live in the moment there, forever, and never judged for it. The motivator of sin is always ego: the lie that you’re not enough.
Trash Panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
People like my dad, the way they live, is just a reflection of what they believe about themselves. And it gets worse the more they hurt people. And it especially stings when watching someone else trying to become their best self in spite of it. The door is open for everyone because it is a form of mercy to be free of that lie everyone is born with. To be aware of and have a choice not to listen to it. You are enough. The fact that a lone, immortal, ominescent, omnipotent God of Creation would bother caring about such a fragile and mildly derpy creature like an individual human, and acts like comparison simply doesn’t exist is proof of it. It’s just hard that a consequence of God respecting free will is that we’ve got the power to hurt each other so deeply, if we choose not to love. And He feels every pain we inflict on each other as if it were His own. I sometimes wonder how He deals with it. How heartbroken He is to lose so many children.
Load More Replies...
Benjamin Brogan 3 years ago
I can totally relate. When I finally got the courage to speak about the abuse I endured, I was the one isolated and treated like a criminal. Not my father, he walked free. Even received money for his daughter's tantrum. How dare I, Daddy's little Princess, lie on my daddy like that! Disowned by the entire family afterwards. I'm sorry all of that happened to you. I'm sending you Hugs, Love and prayers to you. ❣️
Trash Panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
If it comforts you, people like our parents always go after the one that makes them feel the most inadequate. And it’s never because you did anything wrong. It’s because they gave up on believing they can be any good. So they settle for believing they are awful and then becoming terrible and finding a scapegoat so they can lie to themselves that they’re not. It’s weird how people often prefer the convoluted effort to maintain a lie against another lie, instead of grieving, letting go, and being left with a simple grace of who they really are despite it. You don’t have to settle for the fact he’s like a wolf in denial that decided to dig his burrow in a latrine and won’t move out. You will never be your father.
Load More Replies... Shyla Clay 3 years ago
I wish I knew what to say. I grew up in a very difficult situation, too, and I let it nearly destroy me. I, too, find comfort in God after many years of isolation. I wish there were some way I could help you. When things get too difficult and you feel like quitting, know that there's a crazy fat woman that gives a damn. You're in my prayers.
ChocolateCake 3 years ago
Hi Trash Panda, I'm so sorry this has happened to you. Just know that if you ever want to talk I'm here for you. You are amazing, caring, loving, beautiful, and SO MUCH MORE!
Polar_bear_lover 3 years ago
Hi, Trash Panda! I wish I knew what to say right now to make you feel better but i'll try my best. I'm so so so sorry about what you had to go through. I wish I could just give you a big hug! The divorce was NOT you fault, none of this is your fault. If you ever need to talk, I am here. Just remember that you have value in this world. Don't say that you wish you weren't born because God made you for a reason, even if that reason isn't clear yet. Im sending you virtual hugs, and I will pray for you.
Raccoon panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
Just you caring is so comforting.
Load More Replies...
AW 3 years ago
For someone who experienced the absolute betrayal from your family I wish you the absolution and solace you're seeking in your faith. Thank you for sharing your story, you're definitely a better person than me as I would probably be sitting in jail were this my lot
Raccoon panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
Believe me, you are not alone. I am not better than you. I was tempted to do the worst night after night, and nearly gave in.
Load More Replies...
Zophra 3 years ago
Holy f**k. You are such a survivor. I wish you a better life and increased peace.
Raccoon panda (Submission author) 3 years ago
I’m already working on it. The comedy hobby is going well. Self-pity is as much worth anyone’s time as worrying about one or two mean comments some idiots made.
Load More Replies... #8
My grandfather, my Mom's Dad, was in the Merchant Marines in the 40's during WW2. He started out sailing the Atlantic but in the last 2 years they switched him to the Pacific.
It turns out that he was actually honorably discharged in July, 1945 and NOT November, 1945 like he'd told everyone.
He stayed in California for 4 months, unbeknownst to anyone, with a couple of buddies and crashed with them. To earn extra money to bring home, he made 3 porn movies. He was 32-33 at the time, a big, robust, good looking man.
He was married to my grandmother already and my Mom wasn't born until 1947, so they were childless still.
We never found any of this out until 1984, when my Dad got a hold of some VHS vintage porn from the 40's and watched it with my Mom. Back in those days (40's), even before and after, one of the common tricks they used was to make the participants wear half-masks to try and conceal identity.
My Mom recognized him right away though, despite the mask. He had a very distinctive tattoo on the inside of his lower left forearm, a specific birthmark on his lower right hip (which I have too) and also a jagged scar on his lower right calf from when he got hit by shrapnel on an Atlantic ship that had taken some hits but hadn't sank and limped to port years earlier.
A buddy of his was still alive at the time (1984) and still living in California, so my Mom got in touch. Sure enough, the friend (in his 70s) confirmed it and told her about the 3 movies. He starred in them himself and eventually sent her copies of the other 2 films.
In the other 2, he had brief speaking roles and she identified his voice along with the other body ID markers. My grandfather died in 1969, and my grandmother in 1983. According to my Mom, she was sure no one had any clue.
The money my grandfather earned helped to pay off the only car they had at the time and the rest helped to reestablish their nest egg.
So yeah, there's that one. I still have the VHS tapes but don't have a player anymore. I've never watched them, just kept them. Still don't know if I want to watch, LOL.
Final score:
188points
-mafīafrog- 3 years ago
I wouldn't watch them. A: it would ruin those memories of love for him and B: it's pørn. Why would anyone want to watch that.
InfiniteZero 3 years ago
No problem with watching a small amount of porn. The problem here is watching porn staring grandpa.
Load More Replies...
Thida Yang 3 years ago
The dark secret here isn't that he did porn, it should be that he has a kid and now grandkid that have kept and watched/ considered watching those tapes. Never gonna call my family weird again..
Jette Wang Wahnon 3 years ago
Being as old as they are, I doubt you will see much more than you see on all those sleazy Reality-shows...also bear in mind that there was a huge un-employment situation with all the GI´s coming back from the war...He did what he could do for his family and their future at a difficult time. In Italy and not only,people were starving.Many women had become widowed and with no skills and often with small children,many turned to prostitution for a time...who are we to judge...
Berdarien Brown 3 years ago
Really weird as VHS wasn't even released until the mid 70s. If you had found old porn it would have been on 35 most likely which you would use with a projector.
kasei10 3 years ago
It's porn, the company probably re-released it on VHS as 'vintage'...
Load More Replies...
Yayheterogeneity 3 years ago
It's actually a nice story. He did it to give his family a better start in life. Definitely keep them! And I would write that story down for the family chronics. I agree with you, it only shows he cared.
Say What 3 years ago
No way. It showed he didn't care enough about his wife to not give her VD.
Load More Replies... Susan Mercurio 3 years ago
So he was a sex worker who had to do it to set up his family. He did the right thing.
#9
My mom's brother and her dad secretly don’t like her but its sad because she loves them so much
Final score:
172points
Lolly 3 years ago (edited)
I found out about 2 years ago that most of my brothers didn't like me and never had. I was the last child and only girl and they were insanely jealous of the amazing relationship I had with my dad. Although he loved his sons dearly he really wanted a girl so we were very close but I thought I was close with them too. After my dad died I was told in no uncertain terms what they had really thought of me and that they only pretended to like me so I would babysit my nieces and nephews. Maybe I was hard work I don't know, I don't remember, there was a big age gap between them and me but now I am free of their hate and I have something they can never take away the love of a wonderful dad that I will treasure forever. I no longer have any communication with them except one brother who I love very much and I work really hard to ensure my children have an amazing bond and never feel like this about each other. My mother is as bad as the rest so I no longer have her in my life too
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Lolly, that must have hurt. I'm glad to read that you cut the nitwits out of your life. Great that you are making sure your children have this bond... You are a fantastic mum!
Load More Replies... 
Notyomama 3 years ago
That is what my Grandmother always told me. That hate is toxic to your own soul, health, and wellbeing.
Load More Replies...
Display Name 3 years ago
Like full on never wanted a daughter/sister hate...or...the sybling hate(grandad has no excuse)
#10
That I was s**ually a***ed for many many years by an uncle. When I finally worked up the courage to tell my mother, I was forced to keep it a secret so my grandmother wouldn't know the horrible thing her son had done. I'm still holding onto this to this day.
Final score:
169points
Lisa Reuss 3 years ago
Wondering why sexual assault is asterisked out like it’s a cuss word or shameful. That’s nonsense. We keep distilling rape down to something the victim should be ashamed of, punishing her for being raped, to the point that we can’t even write out the words?? Absurd.
Shyla Clay 3 years ago
Here, have a shoulder. Keep it as long as you need-- I've got another one.
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
Often because the men who are molesting/abusing us are also abusing them. They don't just groom us, they groom the adults around us. They pick us because they know that our parents won't protect us. Thanks, Mom!
Load More Replies...
K Wit 3 years ago
It never fails when victims come forward they are always blamed or not believed. We see it every single day. It's so insidious and heartbreaking. Feel like I'm in a fever dream when I hear victims being made fun of or told to keep quiet or called crazy or gold diggers or clout chasers or liars and torn a part bc they aren't perfect victims when questioned. All of this seems especially depressing coupled w what's going on w the Supreme court in the US right now too.
Sheila Stamey 3 years ago
I hate when people don't protect those they were supposed to protect. It's not your fault. Not .your. fault. In any way.
Yayheterogeneity 3 years ago
Maybe it's time to open up? But if you have no one on your side I think that family is wrong for you. To overcome your trauma it needs to be acknowledged. It is your life and no one should tell you how to live. I wish you the strength and courage to do what is right for you! All the best!
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
Because in patriarchal countries where religion is valued, women are held responsible for men's sexual urges. If they rape us? Our fault. If they lie to us and use us? We should have known better. If we don't give them sex? We're manipulative and unloving. It's never, EVER the men's fault. This is why I was obviously too tempting and seductive at the age of four for grown men to resist, I'm sure.
Load More Replies...
Got Myself 4 Pandas 3 years ago
Sounds familiar. I finally told my mum and her response was "do you know if he's touched *insert younger sisters name" then told me not to tell my dad and he'd divorce her if he found out she knew and didn't tell him. That took a long time to get over
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
Same here, but it was Grandma's favorite nephew. Can't possibly upset the family by pointing out all of the pedophiles, now, can we?
#11
My stepdad was a known p***phile. He had more than one teen boy he “took in” and slept with in his bed, for years. He kissed me with tongue once when I was about 8. He used to watch my sister and I bathe, staring at us creepily. To this day my mom denies he was a p***phile despite what I’ve told her and the whole community believes. Also, my uncle k***ed a man.
Final score:
163points
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
People never believe, even if you show them the scars on X-ray. gentle sympathy, Brandy P.
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
I know you guys mean well, but please, I am begging you, do not tell survivors what we should/shouldn't have done when we were assaulted. We have a lifetime of nightmares about this already. We didn't because WE COULDN'T.
Load More Replies...
Lisa Reuss 3 years ago
Any woman who marries a child rapist/pedophile, whether knowingly or not, and then disbelieves her own children when they try to tell her what he does to them is THE SH*TTIEST MOTHER ON THE PLANET + deserves to burn in hell.
Casey Ironmonger 3 years ago
Yeah, when someone has to hide the fact that "also, my uncle kicked a man". Ugh!
Load More Replies...
Lisa Valen 3 years ago
Maybe your mom denies it because she wouldn't be able to deal with the guilt?
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
I don't know what damages us more: when they don't believe us when we tell, or when they do believe us but tell us we have to forgive them because Jesus.
#12
My grandmother on my mom's side might be the s**ttiest person I've ever met. She treats me like c**p because I'm a teenager, a girl, and I remind her of my mom who she also tends to treat like c**p. She caused my uncle's divorce because she MOVED IN with him and his then wife because she's a hoarder and can't even live in her house anymore. She's completely ruined my youngest cousin and now he worships her in such a creepy way. She's also racist, homophobic, sexist, anti-vax, etc. I just hate her. And we can't find a way to cut ties because when we're in her state she finds a way to figure out that we're there and guilts my parents into visiting. I hate her so much.
Final score:
152points
Tobias Reaper 3 years ago
you are such a lovely person i see all your supportive comments on these posts just wanted to say i think you are awesome and the world needs more people like you
Load More Replies...
Mobey Drunk 3 years ago
Sometimes, you don't just need to cut the ties, you need to sever them. Just because you're family doesn't mean you have to continue a toxic relationship. I've got a large family and some I would defend to the death. Others, I have no problem that they are no longer in my life anymore. Sometimes blood is not thicker than water.
Strawberry Pizza 3 years ago
Yes, absolutely - and I recently learned that that saying, "blood is thicker than water", was originally "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". So basically...friends are the family you choose, I guess. :)
Load More Replies...
HarriMissesScotland 3 years ago
I left the country for 11 years to get away from toxic family, and need to do it again. I am so sorry that you are going through this. I truly hope you have a good support system.
Anna Martinez 3 years ago
So sorry for you op. One of my grandmas is too an awful person, so I feel your pain. I used to love her a lot, but when I grew up I realised she never loved me back. Time will come when you'll make your own decissions - as I have now - to cut ties. Good luck until that. Also, have you tried talking to your parents about how you feel? I didn't back in the day, but luckily my dad realised we didn't want to ser her ir his family at a point, and respected that for us.
John Topper 3 years ago
If she's anti vax it should be pretty easy to get rid of her. Just encourage her to go to some MAGA rallies.
Ellis Tamura 3 years ago
I know how you feel. My step-cousins on my dads side are super homophobic and transphobic. It hurts to hear them talk about people like me. They all treat me like c**p cause they are anti-vax and I am not.
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Ellis, that's horrible. I hope you ignore those nitwits and be yourself!
Load More Replies...
Not Telling you 3 years ago
That's so sad. Also, brave of you to admit you are a teen. I have always been worried people wouldn't take me seriously if I admitted it. Plus, I have often been told that me being upset is "just being a teen" an
Celtic Pirate Queen 3 years ago
UGH. My Grandmother was a monstrous bitter b*tch, and I hated her as well. She was incredibly abusive to my Mom growing up, but for some psychotic reason, we still had to drive "down to the farm" for Sunday dinners. I was a chubby kid and she always greeted me with "Here's our little fat girl!" While everyone else was eating dry roast beef & mashed taters, I got a salad. She also insisted on calling me "Shelly" even though I'd told her repeatedly I hated it. (I just ignored her after about the 4th warning). Grandpa was my only saving grace. I'd spend hours with him in the workshop & he taught me everything I needed to know about power tools. How he stayed married to that horrible creature for over 40 years is beyond me.
#13
I thought my dad had died but apparently he sent me away because I was born with a hearing problem and I wasn't perfect enough for him. I also didn't know I had a sister until four years ago, because my father decided that because my older brother was born, dear old dad could send my sister and I away, putting us both up for adoption. My mom got in the way though and managed to claim me, but I only recently got in touch with my sister and oldest brother, as we all met at Dad's funeral after he passed from cancer. I'm not sad that he's gone, but I don't hate him. He hated me, but I don't have a reason to hate him. I'm not sad though.
Final score:
144points
Lisa Valen 3 years ago
If dad sent you and your sister away, but mom was able to claim you, didn't you know your older brother? Or he lived with your dad? Were your parents separated? If that's the case, why send you and your sister away? You could have both stayed with mom.
Legolas Greenleaf (Submission author) 3 years ago
he forcedher to not say anything
Load More Replies... Trash Panda 3 years ago
Anyone who treats a child with rejection like that is a fool. You’re a perfect gift from God to mankind.
Legolas Greenleaf (Submission author) 3 years ago
Thanks :D but a lifetime of rejection doesn't do very much to help that
Load More Replies... Anna Bananna 3 years ago
Im so glad you found your brother and sister, and God bless your Mom for fighting for you.
Niall Mac Iomera 3 years ago
...your older brother being born affected something that happened years later?
Apachebathmat 3 years ago
My daughter is deaf and she is just the most amazing, funny, warm, caring soul you could imagine, after 24 years I’m still so in awe of her., so in love with her! You are just perfect, your dad was the one in the wrong x
Tamra Stiffler 3 years ago
I'm so sorry Legolas. I hope you've been able to connect with people who love and appreciate you, and that you realize your value even though that wasn't provided to you as a child.
#14
My uncle suffered from head trauma after falling off a skyscraper during work, it messed him up really bad and led to him turning to hard drugs.
He was mixing coke with PCP behind the family's back.
Well, one day when his soon to be be ex wife stopped by to talk to him about their 4 kids, he jumped into her car before she had a chance to remove her seat belt and stabbed her to death over 36 times.
Afterward, he walked back into his apartment where his brother was and told him to call 911 cuz he just k***ed the monster that was gonna take his kids from him
Final score:
136points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
That's extremely sad to have happened to their children. For their father to take their mother away from them in that manner, and then I would assume, go to prison for a long time. It would have been so devastating as well for her parents to lose their child. I hope her children are doing okay.
Kushlove0420 (Submission author) 3 years ago
He was sentenced to life with no parole. Years later, he wrote letters apologizing to all 4 of his kids.
Load More Replies...
Vasana Phong 3 years ago
Selfishness, now 4 innocents have no parents, along with probably lifelong mental issues
ί𝔫ＣίŦᵃт𝐔𝐬 3 years ago
No, not selfishness. This man is much like football players who have sustained serious brain trauma and then killed their families. This has nothing to do with a real motive, he very likely couldn't help it. This is just sad all the way around.
Load More Replies... Kushlove0420 (Submission author) 3 years ago
He started to get help but couldn't live with what he done, he ended up kill himself in prison
Load More Replies... Blue Cicada 3 years ago
I had a store manager with a traumatic childhood. When she was a little girl, her father stabbed her mother to death in front of her. He went to prison, and her mother's sister adopted her. He served his sentence, was released, got married, and had more children. He tried repeatedly to have a relationship with her, but she understandably wanted nothing to do with her dad. A very nice woman, but several social emotional issues that are clearly related to PTSD.
Kushlove0420 (Submission author) 3 years ago
Yes he did while she still had her seat belt on :(
Load More Replies...
#15
My Dad is a Sex Offender. The story he gave us was full of holes and the real story was revealed after my husband and I tried to adopt. He had attacked 2 women on two separate occasions. We have been no contact ever since and have been unable to adopt.
Final score:
136points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
That's very sad that someone else's life choices are going to prevent you from being a parent to a child who needs one. It's disgusting that he's still manipulating people to get what he wants out of life and has no concern for his family members. That is the nature of this type of people.
MoJo1979 (Submission author) 3 years ago
Yes, because he is my relation, the rules are that you can’t adopt if a member of your family is a known sex offender. If we can show that he’ll have no relationship with the child then we can apply again. Hence why we’ve had no contact with him.
Load More Replies...
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
Wait a minute what does your dad‘s criminal history have to do with your ability to adopt? I smell fish.
Midoribird Aoi 3 years ago
So because YOUR dad is a sex offender, YOU can't adopt? Look, I can see their reasoning; must not put the child in even the slightest hint of harm's way, but that's messed up your life. I am sorry.
Needmorecowbell 3 years ago
Because they have to now prove that a child will have no contact with the grandfather, and then they will have to reapply.
Load More Replies... #16
My cousin married a serial k***er, she had 2 boys with him and he tried to k*** one of them.
Final score:
120points
Not always popular (Submission author) 3 years ago
She and her boys are fine. He is serving time for at least 3 murders.
Load More Replies...
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
That's horrifying. I hope this person is in a prison cell somewhere and I'm very sorry for your cousin,your family, and you.
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
How mentally unstable is your aunt? And how many people has she helped him get rid of?.
Lisa Reuss 3 years ago
I am going to assume that she did not know he was a serial killer when she married him? Imagine finding that out about someone you love + think you know. Also, and again, why is the word killer written with asterisks? What kind of ridiculous website do these posts come from where you can’t write out a word like rape or kill because ~ what? ~ it’s offensive???
Saida 3 years ago
Presumably it'sso users can't threaten eachother with bodily harm or some such. But it just makes it harder to have honest conversations about difficult topics.
Load More Replies... #17
The story as I was told is this... My grandmother, my mom's mom, came from a very poor family, and they lived away from town. She was asked to babysit, at the age of 15, by a couple from town. The "husband" picked her up, drove further into the country and r**ed her. It said that my great grandmother, after finding out what had happened to her daughter, tracked the man down and gutted him with a kitchen knife. My grandmother got Justice through her mother. The saddest part of the story, my grandmother had a baby from this r**e. The baby girl was adopted by a couple they we're acquainted with and my grandmother was able to visit her daughter until she was around three or four years old. Im told the couple thought she was too close to the little girl and they up and moved away without telling anybody where they were going. My grandmother was an alcoholic most of her life due what had happened to her, but she always wanted to find her daughter. My mother being an "only" child , so she thought until about age 12 when one of her cousins blurted out that her mother was r**ed and had a baby. Which was rather devastating to my mom as well. My grandmother's has an identical twin. Her twin continued to look for her daughter up until she passed away. The daughter, my mom's sister, would be in her '80's now My mother also looked for her prior to her passing 17 years ago. If only the internet was a bigger better thing back then she would probably have found her quickly and could have possibly had a relationship with her. So that's the family secret. Very few know about what my grandmother did or about the baby. Only my grandmother's sisters knew.
Final score:
113points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
I feel so horribly sad for you and your family. This couldn't have been easy to live with, feeling like a part of you is missing. It may have been a very hard thing to deal with for her also, had she been found. It's so difficult to live with the unknowns in our lives. Sending hugs.
Ewelina Rydzewska 3 years ago
I like your grandma's reaction to her daughter's tragedy. Respect.
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
So your grandmother killed somebody but nobody knows about it? Were they black or some type of minority? I don’t know it doesn’t sound right babe.
#18
My childhood home burnt down in 2009, when I was 8 years old, and my whole family knows the truth about what really happened that day... Let's say the fire was unaccidentaly accidental...
Final score:
112points
Immortal Emperor Paradox 3 years ago
When me and my little brother were kids, one day I took hold of a fully filled matchbox. Out mother was sleeping in the living room, and we were in the bedroom balcony which was full of dried clothes. No surprise what happened later. I accidentally started a big fire which engulfed the whole balcony on fire! After we put out the fire, I put all the blame on my brother, who was too innocent to argue. Over time everyone including him believed he was the one who started the fire. Years later, I did confess the truth. Moral: (01) Don't put dangerous shiet where they can be accessed easily by kids. (02) Don't burn down your house and put that blame on your little brother.
SPQRBob 3 years ago (edited)
I once witnessed a mobile home burn to the ground with 3 children inside while their poor mother (the only one who made it out) tore out the very soul from her body in tattered shreds with her anguished keening screams. It is a memory of a sound that is still capable of causing me to shed tears after 30 years, and one I pray I will never hear again in this lifetime. Her 4-year old got ahold of a cigarette lighter and lit the drapes on fire in the back bedroom. By the time the mother, who was in the kitchen at the other end of the trailer became aware of the fire, the single hallway to the back bedroom was fully engulfed and unpassable. She ran outside and around the trailer to try (unsuccessfully) to get in through the back door which was at the bedroom end of the hallway, which is what probably saved her life. The whole fire might have lasted 5-7 minutes. It was terrifyingly quick.
Valerie G. 3 years ago
When I was about 4, my twin set the bedroom on fire. I ran downstairs and into my parent's room. They both started screaming at me and I was sobbing in the corner saying "I only wanted to tell you the house was on fire".
#19
Only a secret to me, because my whole family knew. My mom had been married before she met my father. When she got pregnant, they married and moved away so she could tell people that 9lb me was born prematurely. She never wanted me to know that she'd been married before, or that she was pregnant before she married my dad. I was raise to think divorce and pre-marital sex were wrong, period. Everyone kept her secret from me until after my parents passed away. I found the marriage license when cleaning out the house, and the date had been visibly altered. Then I was accidentally told about the first marriage by a cousin who assumed that I must have already been told (I was 41 years old by then). I had come to suspect that she lied about their wedding date, but I had zero idea about the first marriage.
Final score:
110points
Anna Chen 3 years ago
That's so sad. She let her own shame and embarrassment muddle the integrity of the one she had with you.
KNBlizz (Submission author) 3 years ago
Thank you for that. Yes, I would have been very accepting of everything, and instead I've had to unravel it in therapy and find that balance between loving her and understanding why she did what she did. Both parents had passed with this all came to light.
Load More Replies... Kanuli 3 years ago
Maybe some people can help me here: How is some stuff of the bible, like sex before marriage, so important, while others: you shall not lie, is not? Like if you believe you went to hell coz you had a child before marriage, keeping it a secret would just make it worse, and surely not erase this? I don’t get it, and am seriously curious. Not trying to offend, sorry if I do.
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
Ex-Christian here. Because Christians happily cherry-pick the things that will allow them to feel superior over others. We are bludgeoned with the fact that we are all "poor, miserable sinners" but hey, if we can scream "murderer!" at a woman who had an abortion or tell that gay couple they're going to burn in hell, those dopamine hits thinking smugly that you're "right" and others are "wrong" keeps you going. We were taught that these were things deliberately done by others to "destroy Christianity" and "challenge our faith." With that kind of logic, you can rationalize anything.
Load More Replies...
Kiss Army 3 years ago
When my husband and I were planning our wedding, we were talking about our parent's anniversaries and other important dates, etc... and it wasn't until then (at the age of 26) that my husband did the math and realized that if his parents were married in February and he was born in September the same year, then his mother was pregnant when they got married. We didn't care (and nobody really tried to hide it from him), we just thought it was funny that it never occurred to him before then.
Raven DeathShade 3 years ago
Man, I did the math when I was 15 XD. I mean, we all knew that my brother was born before my parents even met, but apparently I was conceived before they were married. And if they never had intercourse before marriage, I never would've existed. And I want to exist.
Load More Replies...
Viktoria Bengtsson 3 years ago
I found out in the fall of 2020 that my father couldn't be my biological father. My parents still don't know that I know..
Saida 3 years ago
I'm curious how you found out! Also curious, do you feel this knowledge changes the way you feel about your dad/parents? Separate question: do you hope to someday learn about your biological father?
Load More Replies...
Random Dog Owner 3 years ago
my parents had me before they were married and they got divorced when I was 6
Susan Price 3 years ago
Similar story in that both my parents were married before, were mutual friends, and essentially did a "partner swap". I cannot for the life of me find who the others were, even from aunts and uncles who knew. Makes me wonder what the heck was going on back then (late 60's)..
Susan Mercurio 3 years ago
Kind of a laugh that they preached that divorce and premarital sex were wrong...
KNBlizz (Submission author) 3 years ago
I think they thought is was good parenting to coach me to not make their same mistakes...without owning the mistakes.
Load More Replies...
IrinaChr 3 years ago
really cant understand the problem here. you were born, your parents were taking care of you, you grew up to be a person, hopefully they were by your side. now you found out that your mom was married before and you were conceived before she got married to your dad... so what??? i cant understand how the knowledge of the time your mom got pregnant with you or the exact date of your parents marriage could possibly influence your life or your health. you dont even know if she was still living with her ex husband when she got pregnant with you. this is really silly for me, no offense.
ThisIsMe (Submission author) 3 years ago
The impact to me is feeling like I was lied to my whole life by the people I should have been able to trust the most. I was always told "divorce bad, premarital sex bad" when in reality those very things brought about the existence of me. Instead of teaching me to see and accept the mistakes/choices they made and see them as humans, I was raised to believe they always knew best, and I had a lot of anxiety living up to their expectations. If they had just been honest, we would have had a much closer, loving relationship I think.
Load More Replies... ThisIsMe (Submission author) 3 years ago
The man who raised me will always be my Daddy. I'm not going to DNA, but given divorce and marriage records, I was not conceived during her first marriage.
Load More Replies... ThisIsMe (Submission author) 3 years ago
I don't believe so - they had been divorced for years at the time I was conceived. I am not DNA testing - I accept the circumstantial evidence that the man who raised me and married her while she was pregnant is my biological father.
Load More Replies... #20
My grandfather on my dad's side was one of the guards responsible for keeping the little rock 9 out of school, yet because he died when my dad was at a young age practically everyone in my dads side of the family consider him a hero. Another really messed up part of my dads side is the fact that they are all racist homophobes and my grandmother on my dads side talked about how she would punt stray cats. I don't like my dads side and try to avoid talking about them.
Final score:
104points
Priscilla Reshell 3 years ago
Who the hell would hurt a poor kitty? I'm glad you're not in touch they seem horrible
Oskar vanZandt 3 years ago
I'd like to take a punt at the grandma... I was the kicker on my high school football team.
Load More Replies...
El Dee 3 years ago
I had to Google what Little Rock 9 was. This is shocking - a developed country segregating its people based on colour? This was only a few years before Apartheid ended in South Africa. Shame on the US..
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
You just described the south. Confederate flag anybody? Can you imagine losing the war and then carry around the flag has a banner as if you have one? If America knew her history white people would shut the f**k up AND sit the f**k down. Ignorance is bliss enjoy the ride.
Zero 3 years ago
The historically famous incident where nine black students in Little Rock AK went to the previously all white school after segregation officially ended and were met with protests, armed guard, abuse, etc. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine
Load More Replies... #21
I met my bio father in 2008. We met in person twice. We lived in different states. Met my 3 half sisters and 2 half brothers. We talked on the phone and wrote often. One day the calls stopped. Found out he was in prison for sexually abusing a few of his grandkids. I waited about 2 years to decide to write him. The day I went to look for the address to the prison I found his obituary and his funeral was that same day.
Final score:
99points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
I'm sorry, it's unfortunate that you can't be heard for the things that you might have needed to say and that opportunity is gone. You could possibly try writing it all down, taking it to his grave, reading it there, and burning it. It might give you a little bit of comfort.
#22
So I know this isn't as good (or bad?) as some of the other stories but a few generations back two brothers fought over the civil war and never talked again. A few years later, a girl from the confederate side of the family and a boy from the union side met at a lets-forgive-and-forget-but-I-still-hate-you type family gathering. They fell in love and started a family (keep in mind they're some kind of cousins or something). Fast-forward a few generations and I'm named after that girl.
Final score:
96points
Caro Caro 3 years ago
It's not very dark ... I think it's romantic even. So you're a direct descendant ?
AKAELLIE (Submission author) 3 years ago
yeah. (also she was not named AKAELLIE i mean my elusive real name lol)
Load More Replies...
Dave P 3 years ago
1st cousin (as long as a one off thing, not repeated gens) is a 2% increase in birth defects (barring familial genetic conditions), a woman over 40 has a 10% increase alone. Second and third cousins get less and less risk, as long as not done over many generations multiple times
Load More Replies...
#23
It’s not actually disturbing or anything but somehow the fact my great gran got admitted to a psyche ward because she became s*****al has become something no one talks about. She died 5 or so years ago and I only found out this year that 20 years ago she was admitted for a few months and both my mum and gran are really ashamed of this fact.
Final score:
93points
Caro Caro 3 years ago
That's sad. Nothing to be ashamed about. My mum was going though a crisis and went to a psyche home for a month and it helped her a lot. Hugs Spinachpuffs.
Sheila Stamey 3 years ago
Caro Caro, I think you are one of the nicest and sweetest people I've ever met on the 'net. May I send a non- creepy hug to you for a change, just because you are you?
Load More Replies...
Barbara 3 years ago
Definitely nothing to be ashamed of. I am writing this from a psychiatric hospital, I ended up here because of a deep depression phase in a bipolar depression. It has helped me a lot to be here.
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
You have no idea how much strength it took for you to get the help you need. This is a hard road, but I promise, you can and will thrive with care. Proud of you. <3
Load More Replies...
El Dee 3 years ago
Sadly this attitude persists. It means that anyone who has ever had a mental health issue (most especially men as PND is almost considered acceptable now) is forever 'damaged' by it. Harder to get employment and even your own GP will forever try and put down any ailments to your mental health..
Tigerpacingthecage 3 years ago
Yup. People with mental illness in their health records tend to be overlooked and not taken seriously - even when they seek medical attention for somatic issues. This is a big problem.
Load More Replies... Tigerpacingthecage 3 years ago
This attitude is the reason mental illness of any kind comes with a lot of stigma. Many, if not most, will have dark chapters in their life. Some get help. That don't mean they are any less worthy or deserves to be forever labeled as "insane" or "crazy" or not to be trusted in any way.
Lisa Valen 3 years ago
Stupidly 20 years ago it may have been shameful. Your mum shouldn't feel ashamed any longer.
Eli Fisher 3 years ago
That's nothing to be ashamed of. I've been admitted too. Sometimes we just need a little extra help. On another note, it took me a min to figure out it said suicidal, I spent a hot sec thinking it said sexual and I was like goddamn this is a weird secret. But now I understand it and that's very sad.
Spinachpuffs (Submission author) 3 years ago
Yeah I don’t know why Bp feels the need to sensor the word suicidal
Load More Replies...
#24
Take your pick: The murderer, the murderer who got away, or the one who a***ed children to death (murdered) without suspicion.
Final score:
92points
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Jesus Leo. I can't pick and am not sure I want to know. I sincerely hope you are ok tho. Maaaaan, these stories make me realize how good I had it and I thought I had sh!t to deal with but no, the postings here are truly sad and horrible. I'm sending you a Hug and a big sloppy Caro kiss. You know the one, they take your breath away ... those. X
Ronald Bradford 3 years ago
The censorship is getting ridiculous it took me like 7 minutes to figure out the word is "abused." If we're trying to prevent people from being triggered I don't see how failed trigger words are any better than the words themselves
Suzy the observer 3 years ago
I'd rather not pick, thank you. I feel, by your usual comments, that you are an educated and empathic person so can I assume that you came out well? I hope so. I really hope so, fellow panda.
Sara 3 years ago
English is not my native language... i can't figure out what a***ed is? For me one * is enough... :(
Aroace tiger (she/they/he) 3 years ago
Damn thats a lot that sucks =( if u ever want to talk about anything I'm on bp a lot
#25
The darkest secret our family has is a few streaks of alcoholism here and there and the fact that we're so boring that we don't have dark secrets.
Final score:
91points
Trash Panda 3 years ago
If you ever end up struggling with alcohol, a good strategy is to slowly replace the addiction with a hobby you like. :)
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
Dude. My family is rife with alcoholics, drug addicts, and pedohiles. Enjoy being boring, because it is better than taking in your battered cousin and her five battered kids because her alcoholic husband just beat the s**t out of her again, and her church is telling her to go back because you can't break up a family, now, can you?
Raven DeathShade 3 years ago
I'm just going to be over here thanking my lucky stars that my parents have told me time and time again that if I ever have an abusive partner, they'll take me into their house with no questions asked. I wish your cousin and her children had the same freedom :(.
Load More Replies... 
Sinnsyk Jakte 3 years ago
Oh, no doubt you do. As an alcoholic m'self, we're the best keepers of secrets. Don't worry. They'll resurface inconveniently...
spirit wolf 3 years ago
Same!! After reading all these I must say boring is great! I will stick to boring.
#26
Quite some secrets here.
- My mom and her sisters were a***ed by the same uncle when they were little. No one believed my mom when she spoke back in the day, and her sisters never said anything until last year, I think.
- My grandad from my mom's side was a alcoholic and a violent person. He hit my grandma A LOT, and also hit my uncles when they were little. Everyone in town knows him as a great and kind person, and the greatest friend.
- We don't know who my dad's father is. My grandma never said a word, never will. The man I call my grandpa on his side doesn't Even look like him. Other people know who my bio grandad is, but no one seems to remember the name. Also my dad doesn't care so idk who my actual grandad is and probably will never know.
- Word says my grandad from my dad found his wife sleeping with this other man and set her on fire, leaving her a huge very visible scar on her belly, chest and neck, almost to her face. He denies it all.
There's more, but it's getting quite long, so I'll leave it at that. Quite the family.
Final score:
90points
Lisa Reuss 3 years ago
Now in this case, the word written as a***ed has me scratching my head trying to figure it out. Is it supposed to be assaulted? Because *** is not enough asterisks for the letters in assaulted. WHY IS THIS WEBSITE CENSORING WORDS DESCRIBING CRIMES?? Do you think law books do this?!
Natalia 3 years ago
I think it's "a b u s e d" (hopefully this will get past the ridiculous censoring on this site)
Load More Replies...
Anna Martinez (Submission author) 3 years ago
I would love to but I can't afford it :/
Load More Replies...
JJ Moore 3 years ago
Do a DNA test and see if you find your grandfather that way. I would just keep it to yourself if it’ll cause trouble with the rest of your family.
Anna Martinez (Submission author) 3 years ago
It could only cause trouble with my dad, since I cut contact with his side of the family a few years ago for various reasons. Anyways, I have no money for ir x...x
Load More Replies... Oskar vanZandt 3 years ago
That is one giant clusterf*ck of a family... feel for all the victims(NOT the perpetrators, whether they have a history of abuse themselves or not).
Mxstr Wilnis 3 years ago
Dude, that's so messed up. And sounds like the story line of some Turkish drama.
Anna Martinez (Submission author) 3 years ago
Yeah, good soap opera material xD
Load More Replies... #27
There are really two......my old man was a sociopath, closet p***phile with a sadistic streak......when my maternal grandfather dies he persuaded my maternal grandmother to move in with us, sold her house and pocketed the lot. Charged her rent from her pension and treated her abysmally. When she was 82 he left a note on the kitchen table telling her to be out of his house by the time he got home from work, THAT day. All because supposedly she had omitted to pass on a phone message. He was a complete a'hole whom I hated with a passion and I'm glad he is gone.
Final score:
89points
Random Dog Owner 3 years ago (edited)
@Caro Caro I feel like you are the kindest person commenting on this whole post
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
Can you only imagine what your grandparents day to your dad to make him such an a*****e? I have questions and suspicions.
#28
I am my family's darkest secret. 1. My birth mother was a teenager who became pregnant by her high school History teacher. I was put up for adoption and never spoken of again. 2. My adoptive mother and I lived with her father. I was told my father was dead, having been k***ed in the war. That was untrue. He left us when I was a toddler to start another family in the next town over. I did not find out about any of this until after my adoptive mother died. I was 32.
Final score:
82points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
That's incredibly sad. I hope that you're doing well considering the information that you've been dealing with. Gentle hugs.
WarpedThoughts 3 years ago
TBH. Sounds like you were your adoptive mother's gift in life... I hope you're doing ok.
#29
I was raised by my mom, no dad in the picture. When I was a teenager, I guess my dad reached out to my mom to have contact with us (my brother and I). My mom asked us first if we wanted that, and my brother did, so I also agreed even though I didn't really care. Well right before we met him for the first time, my mom told us that he was married when they were dating. He was cheating on his wife with her. I apparently have two half siblings, one is older than my brother and the other was born between me and my brother. (I still don't know if my mom knew about the wife while she was dating my dad.) We stopped having contact with my dad only three months after starting contact. My brother invited him to his football game, but he didn't show up. I hate my dad for disappointing because my brother because he really wanted it to work out and to have a father. I should note that I found out my brother asked my mom for my dad's contact information when my brother's wife was pregnant. He told my mom he wanted to see if there were any health problems on that side of the family that he should be worried about due to the pregnancy. My mom is pretty sure he just wanted to tell his dad that he was having a kid.
Final score:
79points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
It's sad that your dad hasn't made himself a part of yours and your brother's lives. It's even more sad that he probably won't care that your brother is having a child. Men like this are a piece of garbage.
Lisa Valen 3 years ago
Maybe he did want your dad to know. But getting a health history from that side of the family is a good idea.
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
So your mama was having a relationship with a married man and you don’t think she new? You’re so sweet and gullible. if a woman is having two children with a man who is not accessible and only meet the children as teenagers he was either in prison baby OR you are what we call, outside kids. he had a whole wife. Your momma nasty and messy. She didn’t know - boy stop! Usually outside kids just come to the funeral.
#30
My grandparents met and married within 7 days; my grandma already had my mom at that point (from a r**e, she was only 16). A few years and 2 more daughters later, they divorce and she moves away and meets a man, who we'll call Tom, and marries him. About a year later, she leave him for my grandfather and they remarry. Now when she left Tom his own mother tells him she got in a car accident and died. Fast forward about 30 years an my grandmother applies for social security and they tell her, "oh, you're last name is so and so." She responds, no, my last name is "this." Nope, sorry ma'am, our records indicate your last name is so and so. She does a little sleuthing and finds Tom. She speaks with Tom's wife who tells her what Tom's mother said and so he never divorced my grandma. She also told my grandma that he never got over her and she wasn't going to mention this to him. My grandma said, "well, you're not really married to him, I am, so unless you want me back in your life, you'll get this taken care of PDQ." So, she got a divorce and married my grandpa for a 3rd time. When we had a family meeting for them to tell us, their 3 daughters and grandkids cracked up laughing, but my grandparents didn't think it was funny.
Final score:
74points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
Where in the hexx would Tom have been, to believe his wife had a car accident and died but he never saw any proof of any of this, and willfully believe it? This sounds like madness to me. I wouldn't give up without seeing my husband, dead body, accident report, casket, grave, headstone, ashes, receipts, death certificate, or some proof of something. I would never walk in my house and be told by anyone that my spouse died and just sit down and say okay, tomorrow's a new day. Someone would have to drug me and knock me out or tie me down to keep me from trying to figure out what happened. Sounds like someone lied on Tom's mother and Tom nor your grandma neither one thought it was very important to get a divorce. It wasn't all Tom's fault, women can and should file for divorce too, before they get married.
Janelle Collard 3 years ago
This might have happened a long time ago, when people didn't have access to all those records. The internet is actually useful; who knew? ;)
Load More Replies...
#31
Not really a secret as she had no trouble telling everyone, but my mom wanted to k*** me and my brother and “bury em in the backyard” so there’s that
Final score:
71points
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Brittany, what a horrible thing to hear as a child. I hope you are ok. Hugs Honey.
foofoofloofy 3 years ago
I love how supportive you're being for everyone, Caro Caro. You are lovely :)
Load More Replies... Gabby M 3 years ago
Do we have a diagnosis? Suicide runs in my family. My mother clinical depression and severely physically abused. My grandmother (mothers side) clinical depression committed suicide, my uncle tried ... who knows before that. My mother tried to kill us both more than once. She was severely abused by the love of her life!! So kinda know the Your Mom wants to kill you vibe.
Aline Cahill 3 years ago
She must have been suffering from post partum depression. Don't take it personally if that's the case, she needed help and maybe never got any. Sad for you to hear about it though.
Jane Petersen 3 years ago
My mother did not want us either. Pre Roe v. Wade. Don't have children you don't want.
Sophie Wright 3 years ago
Yep! My mother wished she'd never had children. She told me that on my daughter's first birthday
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
Relax it was just a hard summer for her. I’m from the south every other day someone is gonna kill you OR slap you into the next week. It never actually happened SO get over yourself.
#32
My grandpa's brother on my mom's side who I grew up knowing as a nice man that I called Uncle Bill. He had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a distant cousins young daughter and got her pregnant. He told her to tell everyone she didn't know who the father was. She slept over their house frequently for some reason and she gave birth in their basement and he tossed the baby into the furnace.
Final score:
70points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
Omfg! What fresh hêll is this! I hope this man is under a prison somewhere or in general pop, maybe even on death row. I hope this young lady is going to be okay and gets the help she needs.
It's me!!!! (Submission author) 3 years ago
He passed away when I was 10 years old and I'm 31 now. But sadly nope he went on living his day to day life a free man as this was a family secret. Shame on my family members who knew at the time and didn't say a word.
Load More Replies...
It's me!!!! (Submission author) 3 years ago
For the people who say I made this up... I apologize for alarming you... bursting your perfect little bubble you live in but this world is an interesting place where messed up things can and do happen every single day. The things that go on behind closed doors aren't all pretty. His name was Bill Miktuk. A man that would go to any length to not ruin his marriage or reputation. I don't understand why someone would think I would make this up. The truth hurts sometimes.
spirit wolf 3 years ago
Why can't I read the whole story? It ends at "sleep over at their house often for some reason...
PixelShroom 3 years ago
It ends as "She slept over at their house frequently for some reason and she gave birth in their basement and he tossed the baby into the furnace.
Load More Replies... 
#33
Not really a secret, but we are related to Americas first serial k***er, Boone Helm
Final score:
67points
Gigi 3 years ago
it is a difficult legacy, but it does not define you. everyone is responsible for themselves, for their own actions. now that the family tree can be researched freely, many families have disturbing things, but the past is the past, it cannot affect the present
Saida 3 years ago
I remember a story of a neuroscientist who researched psychopathy. Well in his stack of brain scans he found one that looked like textbook psychopathy. Turned out it was his own. His family had a history of crazy psychopaths, but he's all right as far as psychopaths go... https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/ If there is enough disturbing stuff in your family history, it may well be an indicator it can affect the present.
Load More Replies...
#34
3 half siblings from Dad (older than us )but named the same as my brother and two sisters,
Final score:
66points
Ziggyc (Submission author) 3 years ago
That's after a DNA test and them coming forward,very weird meeting half siblings that have the exact names,he never acknowledged them .maybe he called us by their names as not to be confused or let his secret out..even our mother didn't know
#35
It is known that I suffer from depression and I am on antidepressants. But what i have not told anyone is that the antidepressants have not worked as they should and that I've tried taking my own life several times so far this year
Final score:
66points
Zero 3 years ago
Hope you're talking to your doctors & therapists about them not working anymore. Not all kinds work for everybody and some just stop working after awhile, so it often takes experimentation on types & dosages. And if you're afraid the doctor or therapists will report any of that info to people you don't want knowing, it's time for a new one.
Suzanne Haigh 3 years ago
Hope you do not live in Britain as you will get zero help. I know from experience
Load More Replies... Cold Contagious 3 years ago
Please talk to your doctor or find a new one that you feel more comfortable with and let them know that your meds aren't working correctly. I know taking new meds sucks sometimes and waiting for them to work, and the side effects, but please give them a chance. I've been through many meds because many don't work for me or make me feel worse but I'm good now. They can figure it out, but you have to tell them. Sending gentle hugs.
Agent 8433599 3 years ago
Please, please, please don't!! I know some rando on BP isn't the most convincing thing, but please!
Trish Smith 3 years ago
Please, PLEASE talk to your doctor about the inefficiency of your Meds! Your life is precious!! :(
Kanuli 3 years ago
It’s sad to see the other side of the medal. I am brutally honest with most people and most don’t take stuff serious or don’t care, especially doctors. They try to search for reasons, like my ADHD medication, instead of believing me, when I say I felt this way like a decade before I even started that medication in the first place, and through the 5 years I stopped taking it. But suddenly all my problems and thoughts are because of that, even after telling my life story? We should change our peoples circle, or trade 50% our thoughts and honesty, and maybe it would even out. Btw: I am sorry if some people take it the wrong way: to me it was liberating to really take in the knowing that I, and only I, am to decide if and when my life ends by my hand. Yes people would prolly be sad, others try to prevent it, and it won’t change life itself. But sometimes the freedom, and power over your own life, if nowhere else to be found, is important and can actually give strength to go on.
Shine Chisholm 3 years ago
Hey, I have treatment resistant depression and have attempted suicide. When you're in that dark place, it feels like it's the only place you've ever been and the only place you ever will be. That's not true, though! Depression is a liar. I hope that you have a good mental health team working to get you on the right cocktail.
Spring Fisk 3 years ago
Tell your doctor or psychiatrist and they an try different ones that may work. i know it took me 2 tries to find the best meds for me and they made a world of difference.
#36
A person in our family has committed multiple felonies and crimes (none of physical violence). Due to therapy, financial wealth, and cunning secretive behavior, they have never had to pay the price for their actions.
Final score:
65points
IdahoanPotatoo (Submission author) 3 years ago
Ha. I have met the guy (and I'm not a supporter). Really weird experience... not something I'd ever inflict on anyone.
Load More Replies...
LaToya Mack 3 years ago
Tell me you’re white without telling me you are white. That’s what that sounds like.
#37
Me. I'm the first one in the family to have gone to prison.
Final score:
56points
Masen Silas 3 years ago
Im the first in my family to NOT go to jail or prison and the hate I get from that is INSANE
LynzCatastrophe 3 years ago (edited)
My sister is the only family member who hasn't been arrested, surprising considering her underage drug use. Both my parents spent time in jail for DUI's, but mine annoys them because I'm the first, so far only member who has a juvenile record. In my defense that "no trespassing" sign was not within eyesight!!!
#38
Buckle up, we're about to go on a crazy ride. First thing first, this was a secret only hidden from me. A few decades ago, I met someone who seemed like the perfect match for me. We clicked so well, it almost seemed that we were destined for each other. We had several mental issues. It caused some strain, however we helped each other pull through it and we progressed further than anyone would've thought. At first, I took her mom's lead when things went bad (she had schizophrenia, bipolar and OCD). I thought sedating her was a simple way out. So, I tried talking her through it. Sedating her was a last resort for me. The more that happened, the better it got. Her Mom was told that she would never be able to live on her own and bought an apartment building, so she would have some illusion of Independence. However, the more I worked with her, you couldn't see a trace of any serious mental illnesses. The honeymoon period wore off. Honestly, I think I felt it earlier. But, I thought it would be too devastating for her to lose the relationship. I took some soul searching and remembered why I feel in love with her in the first place. It worked in a hundred fold. A couple years later, she felt that. Broke it off, with very few regrets (& not even giving a chance to rethink it). My little brother had a crush on her from his early teen years. He thought I didn't deserve her. He never saw her at her worst and thought she was always at her best (though, I don't mean anything negative for her at these points). Now, here's where it becomes relevant to this post. He started dating her. That information was kept from me for a couple years. I had some suspicions, but no answers. It was usually brought up in a side note, but carefully covered. I didn't know for sure until one of my friends asked me if we were on good terms (my brother and me). Now, I do feel bad, but I take some pleasure in this. Without the constant care, she has reverted back to where she was. Also, my brother can be on the selfish side, he left her.
Final score:
50points
Mobey Drunk (Submission author) 3 years ago
Edit: to clarify the honeymoon period was around 3-4 years. This was a long term relationship. Rereading it I thought it sounded like a light fling.
Kanuli 3 years ago
Sorry. I am confused. You felt the honeymoon phase being over? Then you stayed, and later she felt the honeymoon phase was over and broke up? So people don’t only stay together during or because of honeymoon phase, or so I thought? Biologically spoken this phase is usually 6-24 months, given that our brain gets used to the chemicals involved and so on. This is not to be mistaken by love and such. So to me it sounds a bit like you confused honeymoon phase and just being in love? The whole mental illness part is also confusing. So did she have had any? Or was she pretending to? 🤯
Lorrie Rothstein 3 years ago
I read this twice. It sounds like he abused this woman He was sedating her and then he said the relationship was good
Needmorecowbell 3 years ago
I believe he is simply stating she was professionally medicated, not illicitly sedating her.
Load More Replies... LaToya Mack 3 years ago
So you all are just passing around deficient (financially stable ) vagina throughout the blood line? What part of the south are you all from?
#39
Back story: Around 9 is when I started to be embarrassed about my dad. He’s an elder Boomer. I’m a younger GenX. My dad grew up posh and proper but moved us to the states when I was a toddler. Life is just more casual here. He was forever on my brother and I about one thing or another regarding to our appearance. My parents are both from families of 5 and one of my aunts married an American so that’s one of the reasons we ended up moving here. So I have 5 cousins in town and one I’ve always been closer to but she’s six years older than I am. My mum says of the 15 grandkids in my generation, my dad has always had a soft spot for her. For instance, in her 20’s she becomes pregnant and my dad gave her a car for her and the baby to be safe and not have to ride public transport, which is s**t here anyway. So when I as about 22 my mum and I were in NYC and having lunch one day. I haven’t a clue as to how the subject came up but my mom tells me this story. Now, when this horrific thing happened I was about 8 or 9. My cousin was 14, freshman in high school and from a strict religious household. Her boyfriend and his friends tied her up and they all r**ed her. I had no idea. My mum was shocked by that, I was so little though. But she says, “didn’t you ever wonder what happened to the one motorcycle?” No, I was a kid. Things came and went all the time. So, we had these very good family friends and we lived a block or so away from each other and were in and out of each other’s houses all the time. This man, friend of the family friend, was an enforcer in the mob. He said to my dad “you give me that motorcycle and I’ll take care of it.” My eyes were bugging out of my head as my mom finished the story. Every single one of those boys found themselves with broken arms or legs. My dad basically gave the orders to have some street justice done. All for the low, low price of a motorcycle.
Final score:
27points
#40
this isnt as bad as everyone else's, but my families biggest secret is that i'm gay. I like girls. I have a girlfriend.
Final score:
22points
El Dee 3 years ago
It's your business to come out when you're ready and if they are keeping this quiet out of respect for you then fine. If it's out of shame then they should be ashamed of treating you like this. When you love your child you want them to be happy, it doesn't matter what sex the person is that they find love with, being happy does..
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
To hell with them if they don't provide you with the same love and safety you deserve. You'll find so much chosen family out there in the world, I promise. <3
Shine Chisholm 3 years ago
Congratulations on having love in your life! I'm so sorry your family isn't a part of it
#41
My great grandfather was a bit of a dog. He met and married my great grandmother in South Dakota, they had 6 children, 4 boys and 2 girls. After about 15 years, (not too sure exactly, but my great uncles were teenagers) his first wife found him. Turns out he was a bigamist, just up and left his first family and started another. His wife threatened to label my great grandmother a w**re if he didn't come home. The story is that she had $$$. (This was maybe 1930's???) so he walked out on great grandma Serena, leaving her young teenage sons to find a way to support their mom and siblings. The 3 oldest dropped out of school and somehow ended up working on one of the government programs instituted during the depression, learned how to operate roadbuilding equipment and worked on projects from Montana to California, where they settled. At some point in the 50's they managed to locate their father, who on opening his door, looked at them, and said:"You aren't getting any of my money" and shut the door. The interesting thing is that after doing DNA for Ancestry.com, I was contacted by someone who also descended from the old reprobate. I guess he couldn't change his ways, started another family on the side and we are both trying to find out more about Emil Zacharias.
Final score:
22points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
So sorry for you, your family, and the many other people that your narcissistic douchebag of a great grandfather used and abused for his selfishness.
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
You aren't the only one. My great-grandfather did this to my great-grandmother, around the same time. 9 kids, Great Depression, and he just... bailed, and went off and "married" someone else and had a bunch more kids with her. One of my great-aunts tried to find him and "forgive" him later, but apparently he gave zero shits about anyone but himself.
Richard Portman 3 years ago
That is a CCC story . Civilian Conservation Corps. You can look it up. Some of those boys married local girls and turned out to be ok.
#42
Well…oh man…Biggest is from my Dad’s side of the family, which partly explains why my grandmother is mean to my mother sister, and me. There was an uncle she knew growing up, who would molest her cousins at night. Nobody did anything about it, which might have influenced why she acted so weird to my dad and his siblings as kids. I know she is almost near the end of her life, but that doesn’t excuse the s**t she put my family through emotionally. If there is a case of generational-trauma, mine is up there!
Final score:
22points
Rachel Spidalette (Submission author) 3 years ago
It's alright. Being autistic makes me appreciate how much my close family loves me and why I like to write about alternative families.
Load More Replies...
#43
When I was little, my step-grandmother used to get handwritten letters in the mail sometimes. I never thought much of it. Turns out- her uncle was one of 4 people who bombed a prominent African American church and k***ed 4 little girls in the 60s. It was a major catalyst for the Civil rights movement in the US and something I had read about multiple times in history books and never knew. The story goes that he evaded capture for a long time, but bragging about it at a family reunion caused someone to finally turn him in. He's dead now and good riddance. I have no idea if my grandmother ever answered any of his letters.
Final score:
21points
#44
My uncle’s son molested me as a very young child. I’ve never had the heart to tell my family, although my mother knows. I haven’t seen him in years. Now that I have my own daughter I’ll never leave her alone with any older male.
Final score:
19points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
I'm so sorry this happened to you and I understand how you feel about your daughter. I hope that you and your daughter have the best life has to offer.
Kanuli 3 years ago
I am sorry. But you won’t be able to protect her from the reach of other people all the time. Kindergarden, school, excursions, pyjama parties. All you can do is prepare her the best you can, and have open eyes and ears. Check your countries laws if you think it could help you. Where I lived you could still press charges for many years while the deadline only begins to run when the victim is 18, so for me it was like until i am 34 if I’m not mistaken.
Trish Smith 3 years ago
Why do mother's protect these monsters??!! Their child is not the only one being abused! When we brought my ex-stepfather to justice we discovered that he had an additional 30* victims, and those were the only ones that approached us afterwards and said, "He assaulted me, too." SPEAK UP for your children, Mother's!! Stop these monsters!!!! ;(
#45
Over the years, my dad frequently shared a comment his father made that my dad/mom's marriage wouldn't last two months. Never understood why. They were together 71+ years until mother's passing. Dad passed a year later. In a conversation with my aunt (mother's sister) at the family gathering after Dad's funeral, the subject of their courtship came up. My aunt shared that mother and dad met about three days before running off to get married. Mind you, they married just after WWII in the Pacific ended. They never shared this with any of we three children and it was a bit of a surprise. Of course, it wasn't a question either of us asked!
Final score:
17points
Kiss Army 3 years ago
After my husband and I got married, we found out that some of our so-called friends had a bet that our marriage wouldn't last a year and a betting pool on when we would separate. (We are quite different and got engaged very quickly.) Funny thing is we are still going strong 29+ years later and many of these so-called (EX) friends are now divorced!
HeatherDPanda 3 years ago
My husband and I married when I was 17 and he was 19. I was pregnant. Scandal of the small town we lived in and NOONE thought we would last. It will be 30 years this June and we have 3 children total. And most of the people who said we wouldn't make it have divorced several times...
Load More Replies...
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
Grandpa was wrong. Since your dad mentioned it from time to time, it may have been a point of contention between them that made your dad feel proud to have achieved what he was told wouldn't be done. If I were in your dad's position, I too probably would have been proud to be having a successful relationship and marriage, when others had given little support or encouragement. Your parents had a long lasting relationship and life together and that is a very wonderful achievement in itself. It doesn't really matter how two people meet, when you know that you want to be with each other and are determined to make it work, it will. Thanks for sharing your story with us.
#46
Brought to the house at two months as a foster child and not told until I was 18 years old.
Final score:
17points
Nancy Doughty (Submission author) 3 years ago (edited)
Sure, I was able to obtain my birth certificate. Was asked in the City Hall public waiting area if I knew I was illegitimate. (There's no name for the "father". Went to the address on the certificate and met the people who were my mother's landlords, but they didn't know where she was. (I was in my 20's, at this time. Born in the 50's.) Years later, a man I worked with had my mother's last name and he turned out to be related. Asked him if his father/my half-brother would meet me and give me background. He told me his father refused and the guy from work transferred out of the area - basically disappeared. BTW - my "origin"? I'm a human being not a space alien.
Load More Replies... #47
My cousin might be my brother. My dad has slept with both his brothers wife and my mum's step mum. Also my dad named me after one of his girlfriends. Me, my sister and our two cousins all know this but none of my mum's sisters know. Also my dad doesn't know we know either. Once my cousins got drunk and decided the next day to drive like 200 miles demanding to get a DNA test from their dad (my uncle) to straighten things out. They called me half way there and I was in therapy at the time so I just called my mum. She talked to them both and changed their minds, cause of everyone she's the most level headed (and hurt the most from all this). They arrived in their home city, got drunk again and drove back the next day.
Final score:
16points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
This sounds very traumatic for you, your mom, and your cousins, I'm very sorry for all that you're going through. It sounds like your cousins are having a lot of difficulty surrounding who their biological father may be, and may need some guidance from a therapist if possible. It puts too much pressure on you and your mom to try to de-escalate them when they're having reckless behaviors and being very vulnerable and emotional. It seems like it's only a matter of time before they get DNA tests done. They deserve to know who their father is, even if it disrupts the family. It doesn't sound like your mom wanted to turn them around to protect the victims in this situation, because you all are the victims and you already know, and no one is protecting them. Protecting secrets doesn't help anyone in the long run. Be a advocate for your cousins if you can. They are hurting too. And stay in therapy, process your feelings, sending hugs.
HannEli 3 years ago
I am sorry that this happened. It is very confusing, unsettling, sickening and scary.. basically super uncomfortable. I found out at a young age that my sister, bio from my mom, was also my cousin. It sounds horrible. My mom met a man, had a kid, then met with this mans cousin, had a kid (me) so we are cousins and sisters. I know its not incestual or dirty, but it makes me feel sick and off.
#48
One branch of the family immigrated from France in the late 1920s. Part of the family stayed in France. One of that part of the family collaborated with the Nazis in WW2. And I don't mean just kept his head down and didn't make waves. I mean actively participated in rounding up people for the camps. We know he fled to Spain under a fake name after the D-day invasion, but from there the trail went cold. The French authorities think he went on to Portugal and maybe Brazil. At any rate no one's ever found him.
Final score:
16points
#49
My dad smoked drugs when i was 9-12 im 14 now and i think i he might still do it
Final score:
15points
#50
I was raised by my mom, no dad in the picture. When I was a teenager, I guess my dad reached out to my mom to have contact with us (my brother and I). My mom asked us first if we wanted that, and my brother did, so I also agreed even though I didn't really care. Well right before we met him for the first time, my mom told us that he was married when they were dating. He was cheating on his wife with her. I apparently have two half siblings, one is older than my brother and the other was born between me and my brother. (I still don't know if my mom knew about the wife while she was dating my dad.) We stopped having contact with my dad only three months after starting contact. My brother invited him to his football game, but he didn't show up. I hate my dad for disappointing because my brother because he really wanted it to work out and to have a father. I should note that I found out my brother asked my mom for my dad's contact information when my brother's wife was pregnant. He told my mom he wanted to see if there were any health problems on that side of the family that he should be worried about due to the pregnancy. My mom is pretty sure he just wanted to tell his dad that he was having a kid.
Final score:
15points
#51
My Great Uncle was a shady dude. He did some driving for the Krays to begin with, then he started working with Ronnie Biggs. My Uncle was a Cockney, like all my family. In June 1963, my Great Aunt arrived out of the blue to visit my Nan, who was her Sister in Law. When she arrived she was anxious, and Nan was worried about her. Tommy could be nasty. Before my grandparents left London after the 50's smog, my Nan often had their sons around for dinner, because Tommy was also incredibly tight with money. There was often no food. He didn't want her working, but he didn't want to give her a household "allowance" either. Anyway, that wasn't it. In the end, my Nan just told her to out with it, because she just wouldn't say. She said that there's a few day, coming up in August, and could they, possibly, say that the family had visited them in Stevenage for this particular period, from the Wednesday to the Sunday. Nan asked if they were coming to stay, Lil said no. My Nan asked what my Granddad had said, her brother, because she obviously thought Nan would be the pushover, she had asked for him not to know unless he has to. My Nan refused, and kept Lil there until my Granddad got home from work. He immediately refused, and told her to never, ever ask that of him again. Anything else, yes, but he won't be an alibi, which this obviously was. Lil got upset about going back to Tommy (ikr gangsta) with the answer, so my Granddad called him himself and also told him to never ask that of his sister again. So she left without a polished, copper plated, alibi. At 03:00, on Thursday 8th August, Ronnie Biggs, and his gang, pulled off one of the most expensive robberies in history, when they robbed a train carrying money across the country. Several of the gang were caught, and put in prison, Ronnie actually escape from prison, and evaded capture for decades, until he returned, voluntarily, in 2001. There were a few who were not caught. It was a secret I could never talk about, but everyone involved is dead now, and this is still anonymous, so its not like they could approach their kids under the Proceeds of Crime Act, plus they'd struggle to find proof now, 60 years later. It's only my hearsay. Lil never said what he was up to that weekend, but the family all agree that it's not coincidence. Following this he purchased propert in Spain and on the south coast of England. Which was some feat for a guy who just "done a bit of driving for Ronnie Biggs. It's synchronicity. Occham's Razor. And definitely our deepest, darkest secret.
Final score:
15points
Theobolds Daughter (Submission author) 3 years ago
This wasn't even his only deep, dark secret. He chose to move near to Brighton to be able to be actively involved in raising his secret family. I say raising. It's unlikely he cared about the kids as much as the mistress. We didn't find out until they turned up to the funeral...
#52
After my dad died, my mother started a long distance relationship with her second cousin. She hid it for a while, then told me he was moving out to live with her and they were “dating.” Time goes by, he doesn’t move in, but she decides they’re going to get married and tells me after she’s already planned the entire thing. They did get married but he never moved in with her. They’re not even in the same state and she’s too embarrassed to admit it was a mistake so she’ll never divorce him.
Final score:
14points
#53
My great-grandfather was an illegal alien. He married my great-grandmother and she got her citizenship taken away. Though she was born in the United States she had to reapply for citizenship.
Final score:
13points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
That sounds terrifying and crazy, but I don't know anything about citizenship. I don't understand how they can take hers away unless it is some kind of asinine clause that has to do with your great grandfather being an illegal alien when they married. It's extremely sad but there are some crazy laws here for certain. I hope things work out for her and your family.
Rosie Cat 3 years ago
That is what they did to White women back in the day who didn't marry a White man. Just another way to control and pass on hatred. You can find this information at archives.gov
Load More Replies... #54
hm... i would say this is more of a guess work, but considering much of my family is german, i'd say at least 1 was a nazi (during ww2 of course)
Final score:
12points
Kaz 3 years ago
I am half German and none of my family were nazis. Soldiers yes, my Grandmothers 2 brothers were forced to serve and neither came back. Not every German family was evil.
LynzCatastrophe 3 years ago
I always knew my grandfather fought in ww2, I knew he was from Germany. I didn't put the two together for a long time. My grandfather was a kind, quiet and gentle man, I miss him every day and anyone who says anything bad about him because of a mistake he made when was barely considered an adult, I will hurt you. I know the man who literally spent everyday for decades trying to atone for his mistakes.
Mermaid Elle-Jaye 3 years ago
It happens, my sister is married into a polish German family with Nazi history, our family and people were on the camp side of things 💀 . It weird how life plays out. They are the best couple ever
DC 3 years ago
... whole father's side were Nazis or children back then. Grandpa and his sibling were born between 1922 and 1941 (the last after a huge gap), so they all were in the Hitlerjugend, and Grandpa was in the Waffen-SS. I don't know much of what he did ... he used to collect the membership payments for the party as a kid, and was somewhere in the east in the war ... may or may not have contributed to war crimes ... he never told much, just the same three stories, which were merely funny.
ᔑᓵᒷ 𝙹⎓ ᓭ!¡ᔑ↸ᒷᓭ (Submission author) 3 years ago
ancestors, my family has ties in every country in europe.
Load More Replies... #55
When I was 26 (I'm now 49), my mum confided in me that my brother had a wardrobe full of women's clothes. They were all too small for him to wear and we've not told anyone, not even him. Not sure why he had them...
Final score:
11points
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
It is more odd only because none of them will fit him. Could they have fit him at a earlier time in his life and he just hasn't gotten rid of what doesn't fit anymore? Was this kept in your mother's house or did your brother live in his own home? Maybe he had a girlfriend who abandoned the clothes and left. So many questions...
Island Girl (Submission author) 3 years ago
He was living in my parents home and was saving himself for marriage. He didn't make any proper attempt to hide them, aside from keeping the wardrobe door closed. He knew my mum washed, folded and put his clothes away too...
Load More Replies...
#56
I have a cousin that we could not see until he was an adult. Let me tell you the entire story. My aunt had children. 3 of them. And one of them (the youngest) had suffocated in his sleep at the age of three months old. This caused my aunts wife to leave her and then husband dad and mom took my cousin away until we finally met him last week.
Final score:
11points
Aline Cahill 3 years ago
What I understood was that the baby's mum left, so the dad and the OP's parents took the cousin away (maybe to protect them?). I might be wrong, very confusing.
Load More Replies...
Trey Shipp (Submission author) 3 years ago
Oh and my other cousin died mysteriously at a bar and we never found who did it
#57
My real grandfather was abusive and terrible. I had never met him because supposedly he died of a sickness….
Final score:
9points
#58
My brother joined the Marines at 17 to avoid jail and to be able to pay child support. He did both tours admirably but when we created his will, his son was so out of our knowledge that he specifically said his assets went to his named siblings. Only me and bro. We published probate and I dumpster dived to find my nephew but he is gone. At least I found his 1990's girlfriend that he left an annuity to.
Final score:
8points
Karen Grant 3 years ago
Brother enlisted to earn money to support child; list contact with said child for remainder of his life; disinherited his estranged son, leaving entire estate to his own two brothers. Brothers searched for their estranged nephew; found he is deceased, and that he had set up an annuity for a [former] partner before he passed.
#59
its not a very dark secret but my uncle was an alcoholic. also my grandma had her first kid at age 18
Final score:
7points
Mrs. Jan Glass 3 years ago
This is just... my whole family. I'm the only woman in several generations who DIDN'T have a kid as a teen. Everyone's an alcoholic, a drug addict, an abuser, a bunch are in jail for drugs and/or prostitution. The good thing, I guess, is that you can keep an eye on yourself for potential problems. This is why I didn't drink, try any drugs, or even take aspirin until I was well into my mid-20s.
#60
After my dad died, my mother started a long distance relationship with her second cousin. She hid it for a while, then told me he was moving out to live with her and they were “dating.” Time goes by, he doesn’t move in, but she decides they’re going to get married and tells me after she’s already planned the entire thing. They did get married but he never moved in with her. They’re not even in the same state and she’s too embarrassed to admit it was a mistake so she’ll never divorce him.
Final score:
6points
#61
After my dad died, my mother started a long distance relationship with her second cousin. She hid it for a while, then told me he was moving out to live with her and they were “dating.” Time goes by, he doesn’t move in, but she decides they’re going to get married and tells me after she’s already planned the entire thing. They did get married but he never moved in with her. They’re not even in the same state and she’s too embarrassed to admit it was a mistake so she’ll never divorce him.
Final score:
2points
Explore more of these tags
What do you think ?
Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
Sometimes the anonymity of the internet is our only safety. To all those who had to suffer the confusion, the strange sense of not-okay-but-have-to-pretend, the nightmares, pain, flashbacks, physical side effects, etc... You're not alone. And many Pandas have shown that we can share, and receive compassion, which isn't so common in the real world. The horrors of our "normal" aren't to be shared lest it upset the illusion, in "real life".
Paddling Panda 3 years ago
So true. Just last week, I was told not to talk about my experiences with my recently deceased dad because another sibling wants to remember him as she knew him (he abused me but not her, so we had vastly different experiences). It feels lonely and isolating to not be able to talk about my lived experience, but I find comfort and support with my chosen family: my friends and my pets. Hugs to all of you who have survived and who prevail. The pain and betrayal never go away, but you are NOT alone.
Load More Replies...
Everydayhuman83 3 years ago
Don't Know If Caro Caro Will See This, But You Are The Greatest From What I See In The Comments. :)
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Aw, I was scrolling along and I just read this. You are so kind, thank you.
Load More Replies...
Leoninus Fate 3 years ago
My stepmom hated me, she fed me chocolate that hurt me {deathly allergic, even some on my skin burns} and ended up when she sending me almost dead to the hospital when she jumped on me, used a box cutter to slice my neck and up along my cheek and nose A Moms friend Adopted me after it My dad still doesn't understand what happened {hes sick and dieing now and she just wants his money, I was 10 years old and my mother had just passed away when I was 7, it took 2 years for them to find my dad}she attacked me cause she thought I came into his life to get it, he feels bad but his mind is going but he sends me tons of money to cover everything in life now, I'm now 34 years old}
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
This sounds so horrifying and traumatic for you. I'm sorry that you had to endure that pain from your stepmother and then suffering without your father. I'm very grateful that the friend of your mom's took you in and I hope you were able to have a stable and happy life with them. I wish you all the best in your journey through life and gentle hugs.
Load More Replies... Tiny Dancer 3 years ago
Just when you think you've got it bad, sheesh. Thankfully, our family secrets aren't that dark. I was the flower girl for my parents' second wedding when I was 10. Seems everyone there but me knew it was their first (I found out when I was 18, what a night that was!). Some old family shame on my Mum's side where a sister she didn't know existed turned out to be very mentally ill. She ended up taking herself out (trying to get around the censors here) and no one told Mum until she was in her 70s. Also, we're pretty sure Grandma was a Lady of the Evening way back when. Mum remembers her emptying her purse every night and the bills tumbling out onto the bed. Hey, whatever it takes to keep your family alive, no shame in that. Great big heartfelt non-threatening hugs and blessings to all of the beautiful, damaged Pandas on here. Sharing is caring and we do care for each other around here. Well, except for that guy. There's always one! ;-)
Susie Kamper 3 years ago
My grandmother never talked about ww2. If anyone mentioned it, she shut down. All we knew is that after the war she changed her name. After she died, my mom and I searched for her online and found out, she was part of Gestapo. Her brother too. He was caught and shot when our country was deliberated. 10 years after ww2, a woman in my city was killed. It’s still a mystery why. Turns out, her name was the same as my grandmoms before she changed it.
SillyDragonfly4 3 years ago
After my religi6 grandparents had passed, my mom told me they were swingers in their early years. It was suprising to me bc they never missed mass on Sunday and were very judgmental of others behavior.
An Unpopular Opinion. 3 years ago
I don't have any, but I'm glad I don't. This list made me sad, so sorry to everyone who is going through / went through these things. <3
Moosy Girl 3 years ago
Our family has a dark secret, but so far nobody has figured out what it is yet. A few years ago one of my favourite uncles, who’d always been funny and friendly, came back from an overseas trip and started abusing my grandparents before shooting himself in the face. He survived, my dad has since semi-secretly met up with him and says he’s back to being nice, but he won’t talk about what happened on his trip or after.
𝕮𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖊 3 years ago
One of my family secrets is that my family back then was crazy, and my distant cousin was killed bc he got kidnapped by his brothers drug dealers bc he didn't pay them back. Story got around, and made a movie out of it. The movie is Alpha Dog. There's so much craziness in my family, I sometimes wish that I had the picture perfect family with no killing or drugs, just happiness and normalness.
K Wit 3 years ago
My moms uncle sexually abused her cousin her whole life. One night she was found dead in the woods in the middle of a snowstorm w only her nightgown on and one sock. She was 14. My moms aunt found her diary after the funeral and that's when all the abuse came out. It was kept a secret from the family. Only my grandmother knew. She did tell my mom later on what really happened. Apparently my moms cousin was trying to escape another assault and tried to hide in the woods, which she said in her diary that was her only way to defend herself, and died of hypothermia. He never faced any consequences of course said she was a liar and made that stuff up bc she was mad at him for punishing her when he said no she couldn't go to the movies w friends and stuff like that. People like him can twist lie and maneuver their way into making people believe they are the victims and people fall for it
Tina Zimmer 3 years ago
I truly hope that there's a hell and special place there for him! I'm soo sorry your cousin had to endure this, including the shame the so called family out on her name after she died trying to protect herself.
Load More Replies... Leo Domitrix 3 years ago
Sometimes the anonymity of the internet is our only safety. To all those who had to suffer the confusion, the strange sense of not-okay-but-have-to-pretend, the nightmares, pain, flashbacks, physical side effects, etc... You're not alone. And many Pandas have shown that we can share, and receive compassion, which isn't so common in the real world. The horrors of our "normal" aren't to be shared lest it upset the illusion, in "real life".
Paddling Panda 3 years ago
So true. Just last week, I was told not to talk about my experiences with my recently deceased dad because another sibling wants to remember him as she knew him (he abused me but not her, so we had vastly different experiences). It feels lonely and isolating to not be able to talk about my lived experience, but I find comfort and support with my chosen family: my friends and my pets. Hugs to all of you who have survived and who prevail. The pain and betrayal never go away, but you are NOT alone.
Load More Replies... Everydayhuman83 3 years ago
Don't Know If Caro Caro Will See This, But You Are The Greatest From What I See In The Comments. :)
Caro Caro 3 years ago
Aw, I was scrolling along and I just read this. You are so kind, thank you.
Load More Replies... Leoninus Fate 3 years ago
My stepmom hated me, she fed me chocolate that hurt me {deathly allergic, even some on my skin burns} and ended up when she sending me almost dead to the hospital when she jumped on me, used a box cutter to slice my neck and up along my cheek and nose A Moms friend Adopted me after it My dad still doesn't understand what happened {hes sick and dieing now and she just wants his money, I was 10 years old and my mother had just passed away when I was 7, it took 2 years for them to find my dad}she attacked me cause she thought I came into his life to get it, he feels bad but his mind is going but he sends me tons of money to cover everything in life now, I'm now 34 years old}
Cold Contagious 3 years ago
This sounds so horrifying and traumatic for you. I'm sorry that you had to endure that pain from your stepmother and then suffering without your father. I'm very grateful that the friend of your mom's took you in and I hope you were able to have a stable and happy life with them. I wish you all the best in your journey through life and gentle hugs.
Load More Replies... Tiny Dancer 3 years ago
Just when you think you've got it bad, sheesh. Thankfully, our family secrets aren't that dark. I was the flower girl for my parents' second wedding when I was 10. Seems everyone there but me knew it was their first (I found out when I was 18, what a night that was!). Some old family shame on my Mum's side where a sister she didn't know existed turned out to be very mentally ill. She ended up taking herself out (trying to get around the censors here) and no one told Mum until she was in her 70s. Also, we're pretty sure Grandma was a Lady of the Evening way back when. Mum remembers her emptying her purse every night and the bills tumbling out onto the bed. Hey, whatever it takes to keep your family alive, no shame in that. Great big heartfelt non-threatening hugs and blessings to all of the beautiful, damaged Pandas on here. Sharing is caring and we do care for each other around here. Well, except for that guy. There's always one! ;-)
Susie Kamper 3 years ago
My grandmother never talked about ww2. If anyone mentioned it, she shut down. All we knew is that after the war she changed her name. After she died, my mom and I searched for her online and found out, she was part of Gestapo. Her brother too. He was caught and shot when our country was deliberated. 10 years after ww2, a woman in my city was killed. It’s still a mystery why. Turns out, her name was the same as my grandmoms before she changed it.
SillyDragonfly4 3 years ago
After my religi6 grandparents had passed, my mom told me they were swingers in their early years. It was suprising to me bc they never missed mass on Sunday and were very judgmental of others behavior.
An Unpopular Opinion. 3 years ago
I don't have any, but I'm glad I don't. This list made me sad, so sorry to everyone who is going through / went through these things. <3
Moosy Girl 3 years ago
Our family has a dark secret, but so far nobody has figured out what it is yet. A few years ago one of my favourite uncles, who’d always been funny and friendly, came back from an overseas trip and started abusing my grandparents before shooting himself in the face. He survived, my dad has since semi-secretly met up with him and says he’s back to being nice, but he won’t talk about what happened on his trip or after.
𝕮𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖊 3 years ago
One of my family secrets is that my family back then was crazy, and my distant cousin was killed bc he got kidnapped by his brothers drug dealers bc he didn't pay them back. Story got around, and made a movie out of it. The movie is Alpha Dog. There's so much craziness in my family, I sometimes wish that I had the picture perfect family with no killing or drugs, just happiness and normalness.
K Wit 3 years ago
My moms uncle sexually abused her cousin her whole life. One night she was found dead in the woods in the middle of a snowstorm w only her nightgown on and one sock. She was 14. My moms aunt found her diary after the funeral and that's when all the abuse came out. It was kept a secret from the family. Only my grandmother knew. She did tell my mom later on what really happened. Apparently my moms cousin was trying to escape another assault and tried to hide in the woods, which she said in her diary that was her only way to defend herself, and died of hypothermia. He never faced any consequences of course said she was a liar and made that stuff up bc she was mad at him for punishing her when he said no she couldn't go to the movies w friends and stuff like that. People like him can twist lie and maneuver their way into making people believe they are the victims and people fall for it
Tina Zimmer 3 years ago
I truly hope that there's a hell and special place there for him! I'm soo sorry your cousin had to endure this, including the shame the so called family out on her name after she died trying to protect herself.
Load More Replies... You May Like 95 Common Sayings And Collective Wisdom From Countries Worldwide Your Brain May Be Sending You A Message Through These 95 Common Dreams 98 Popular Phrases People Spell Wrong In Everyday Settings
Larysa Perih
Viltė Domkutė
Eligijus Sinkunas
Related on Bored Panda
