30 Folks Online Share The Wildest Cases Of “My Kid Can Do No Wrong” They’ve Ever Experienced
Speaking in front of an audience every day sounds difficult enough, but what if it’s in front of a bunch of kids? If that wasn’t difficult enough, what if their parents were also overly protective or could see no fault in anything their kids do?
That’s exactly what these teachers have gone through, and decided to share their experiences in a viral Askreddit community thread. You’re certain to have a gasp or a chuckle at these helicopter parents.
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I guess this is more "helicopter aunting," but I think it still applies. I'm a college professor, so 99.9% of the time I never hear from my students' parents--and, legally, thanks to FERPA laws, couldn't talk to them about their students even if I wanted to.
Last year, during the final week of one of the summer bridge programs for incoming freshmen I teach in, I got an email from one of my student's aunt. She wrote me a 5-page-long email (I copied it into Word because I was curious) detailing, line by line and comment by comment, why she disagreed with what I'd written on her niece's essay and the rationale I'd used to give it an F.
Every. Single. One of my comments (on a 5-page essay) had a short paragraph devoted to picking apart the comment and rebutting it. At the end, she lambasted my teaching and suggested I'd failed the student out of spite. (Totally untrue--the girl could barely string together a coherent sentence, let alone a grammatically correct one.)
When I told her I wasn't allowed to talk to her about her student's grades due to federal law, she called the program director and demanded I be fired.
The fun twist at the end of this story, though, is that we ultimately figured out why she was so angry with my comments: Turns out she'd been writing her niece's essays all summer and had taken my comments personally. Needless to say the niece was removed from the program.
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And that is how we get college grads who are functionally illiterate.
And you did not notice that the grammar style was the same in that 5 pager?
I have no trouble believing this. I taught 7th grade in the US for about 2 years. (Quit to go into IT, if that tells you anything.) Had a student in the remedial class who was getting a 32% in class. Total. I gave these kids 5 points just for getting their name on the paper. At conferences both parents showed up... not to find out how to improve the grades, but to convince me to CHANGE the grade do to sports eligibility requirements.😠 I handed them a stack containing every missing assignment and said if they get done, I'd grade them and give full credit. I got 1/2 of them back and 80% of those had a decidedly more adult handwriting than the rest... and were still pathetically incorrect.
I work in a kindy in China. We have about 35 kids in each class, seated in 4 rows of 8 (with a split down the middle) facing the teacher.
We move the children about once a month; each child moves back one row, and the back row gets to sit in the front row.
One parent came in and told us that her child must always be seated in the front row. There's nothing wrong with the child's eyesight; she's just too special to be seated anywhere but the front row I guess. The parent did not request this; she ordered us.
Another time in primary the headmaster came to talk to me, aghast. We had one special group of children that was taught all in English for every subject. This is very expensive and all the parents are pretty rich (One guy has three porsches; a red yellow and blue one and drives whatever colour he feels like to school. He also has several Harley Davidsons.)
Anyway this VERY rich mother was upset because the other rich kids didn't want to play with her daughter. Her daughter, having servants at home, tried to order the other kids around and you can imagine how popular that made her.
This mother threatened to have the other children killed unless they started playing with her daughter.
OP said in the original post, “I wouldn't have believed it myself except it was the headmaster telling me, he look horrified, and she was gone next term.” And, “At the end of the term they were ‘unable to find room’ for the girl.”
Load More Replies...Why does this read like a villain origin story? And also just a current villain story.
*gets out fire* hold on now mother, this is a bad plan...
Standard fare in China. My old boss used to 're-evaluate' grades I'd given students based on how large a bribe the parents had given him. Also, parents used to wait for me outside school and offer me money, cigarettes, alcohol, 'massages' from call-girls, and anything they thought would buy their kids good grades.
This is typical behavior among the rich in China or those with the right party connections. In private schools grades are bought with bribes to administrators, headmasters/mistresses and school owners.
About 35, so probably less. I assume they'd add another row of four to make room if they had extras
Load More Replies...Poor kid. Learning how to get along with other kids so you can develop friendships is an important factor to having a happy life. Her parents need to teach her how to change her behavior so she can become successful at getting friends, but this sounds like the mom is endorsing her child's bad behavior. And if a parent tells a kid that her behavior is okay and that it's the other children's fault, it takes the kid way longer to realize how healthy interaction works and how she's getting in her own way. So the mom is basically sabotaging her child's happiness, shame on her.
Yup, but the parents swear that they are doing the best thing for their child
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Late to the post but I’m a high school counselor. Last year I had this student who was a total sweetheart but really needed intervention. This girl was a sophomore and had a grand total of 20 credits towards graduation under her belt. She should have had 90 by that point and was on track to fail 25 more that spring. She was failing miserably. Not only that but she would be constantly ditching class and often end up in my office because there was no where else to go. The school has only one way in or out. I did everything in my power to help this girl and eventually was able to get a parent meeting with myself, teachers, the school psych and school administrators involved. I explained to her parents in great detail how at this point it was mathematically impossible for her to graduate from high school at that school at the rate she was failing classes. I offered continuation school that has a much higher rate of graduation for students in her situation. I desperately wanted her to get tested for special education because it was obvious she had deficiencies and could have at least gotten some legal accommodations put in place for her in order to help her. Parents just said no to everything. No to continuation school because that’s where the “bad” kids went. No to testing because special ed had a “bad stigma.” No to after school tutoring cuz “she’s capable of doing all of this work.” No to working one on one with the school psych to sort out her emotional issues. No to everything. I’d never felt so defeated and knew then that I couldn’t save every kid no matter how much I wanted to.
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Wow that's super sad. Some parents shouldn't be allowed a say when they so obviously are ruining their kids lives
I wonder if the parents also needed special education. Sometimes IDD is inherited. I really wonder if maybe these parents just didn't understand stuff.
Load More Replies...Kids in Australia dont need parents consent to go see a Dr after they turn 14yrs, this include psychological treatments. They can get their own Medicare card and the school can pay for the specialist if they need to. My school caters for kids like this everyday and sometimes the parents have their own c**p going on (drugs, poverty, DV, whatever) and don't want people involved for whatever reason (usually transport and finacial) despite the hurt it's causing their kid. Usually once the family realise were here to help and not demonize them and offer practical solutions they become receptive and get the help they need. My school is part of an initiative called Family's in Schools Initiative where we try to involve families more and actually help out with various things (food, transport, medical) because we recognise that if you can help make the home more stable the young person will benefit immensely and it lasts longer than bandaid solutions. The OP is 100% though, you can't save them all
In Canada it's the same thing. Once you turn 14 you can go alone to the doctors without your parents.
Load More Replies...Isn't that a situation where Human Services could and should get involved?
you would need to be carful with that. it could trigger a flight of the family then you would lose access to the child.
Load More Replies...Sadly, this isn't uncommon, and neither is that defeated feeling for counselors, educators, social workers, etc. March is Social Work Month in the US. If you know any people who give their hearts and energy to helping children and families, please hug them and remind them that what they do does matter.
Some parents are very insecure and actively don’t want their kids to exceed their own educational level as they might “get ideas” . A friend of mine moved out of his parents’ house at 16 since they didn’t want him to do A-levels and that “he should be getting a job and bringing some money into this house”. So short-sighted.
THIS is a case where CPS needed to have been involved. If the school has proof that the child even a teen needs testing for special ed or psych help and the parents deny, CPS should be called because obviously, something more is going on at home and this child/teen definitely needs help
Sounds like me then I quit school and got trafficked, parents didn't care I was barely 16
My dad is abusive has same asd issues as my brother and MY TWINS both on spectrum. I understood how important that support is. They have been in IEP since preschool. To further prove my point.. my kids have skipped grade one skipped 3 grade and the other skipped 5.... The support is everything that IEP helps them tremendously. My niece mother denied she had any issues the poor kid didn't get tested til highschool and struggled her whole school career. Sad.... That support is everything
Load More Replies...Retired teacher here, had a high school senior who everyone (including him) knew was autistic, but had never been put in special ed classes due to stigma. Kid was lovely, and we had a rapport, but he had to have some modified assignments. Parents need to deal with their issues and NOT take it out on children who need help.
I had a student who was failing pretty badly, he had a pretty bad attitude and was extremely disrespectful. When I called his father, the response was “You’re a woman, he doesn’t need to respect you.” I handed the phone to a male mentor teacher pretty dumbfounded and explained the situation. The male teacher proceeded to ream the dad out and then had the kid transferred from my class to his class. The kid still failed and was still a disrespectful a*s. Not sure what the dad had to say about that but at least he couldn’t blame it on me being a woman.
I rather like them, they are some of the biggest jokes on the internet.
Load More Replies...People: You don't belong in this society. You're too weird and different! Me: Good, I don't wanna be in this sexist, racist, homophobic society
Disgusting, everyone should be treated the same, ethic, race, color, gender, religion, everything, there should be equality equal to all, and the problem is a majority of fathers this generation being horrible!
"Not sure what the dad had to say about that..." If the dad is teaching disrespect towards women, then he will also teach his son to 'man-up'. I'd bet a lot of money that he was abusive towards his kid (s).
I'm finding this more and more lately. I've had some issues living out here in Vermont with the... "Is your husband ok with you buying this"? Even when my name is on the card...
I think wrong actions where taken. Kid should be banned from school, not up to dad to decide who is teaching his kid. Actions taken means it is allowed to disrespect women... even school agrees, lets give him a male teacher.
I had a child like that who was incredibly spoilt and his mother always made excuses. Then in high school he was playing rugby and when a child tackled him, he got up, jumped on his head and broke the kid's
(hit enter by accident) ... Jaw. Parents of said kid sued and spoilt child's mom had to pay all the other kid's medical bills. I heard that after spoilt kid matriculated, he was killed in gang-related violence. Shocker. Wish I'd seen that coming. Oh, wait... I 100% blame the mother.
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An incredibly quiet student just flat out refused to engage in any discussion in class. She was an extremely pleasant girl, she just wouldn't speak. I brought it up with her mother during an interview and she told me she'd forbidden her daughter to express her opinion and to just listen to the teacher out of fear they wouldn't agree with her opinion and mark her down out of bias. I assured her that expressing an opinion wouldn't get a student marked down in my class and that developing one is important to her learning but she just said "I'd rather she didn't."
This is just so sad. Poor kid :( She will probably have problems in the future communicating.
This one sounds like it's the mom who may have had some traumatizing experiences, and has been conditioned to think that way. More context is needed.
I agree with sometimes when people act this way it is how they are treated and this can go on for generations unless someone stops it.
Load More Replies...This girl is going to end up in a horrible relationship because of her mother telling her to just be quiet and keep her head down.
My family has very different opinions, but we're all not judge toward each other. My parents taught me that no matter what I believe in, they'll be right behind me supporting me. On opinion is my dad is pro-choice and my mom is pro-life. I don't know where I fall on the scale, I don't really give a c**p. I'm just mad that school shootings aren't being taken more seriously than abōrtion.
I don't understand people who claim to be pro life and then they go kill an abortion doctor. Well you certainly weren't pro the doctors life.
Load More Replies...I wonder what opinions the home environment has encouraged that would result in the education system marking her down because of bias. Probably something involving flatness?
It could be so many things, it could also be her mom had horrible parents/teachers who verbally abused/humiliated her for speaking her mind, and this left her so traumatized that she feels that speaking your mind is super dangerous as a kid and she sincerely thinks she's protecting her child this way, or that it made her so scared of her child being mistreated too that she just can't handle the idea and tries to deal with that anxiety by keeping her child quiet. Doesn't mean she's right, obviously, this is horribly bad for the kid.
Load More Replies...I had a couple classes where your opinion would get you docked. So I never volunteered one, took my grade and took no further classes from those teachers.
Should have told the mom, "You don't get an opinion if your daughter isn't allowed to express hers!"
Criminal defense lawyer here. I was talking to my 23 year year old client in the hallway before court. His mom walked up to me and said forcefully, “He is a CHILD, do you understand me? A CHILD!” Because she was upset that he was in trouble with the law.
the “kid“ is now in jail for being a naughty naughty guy
Load More Replies...To be fair, at 23 your brain isn't quite done setting yet, but that doesn't mean the kids shouldn't get consequences for their actions
I'm afraid that I disagree. Biologically, our brain might finish developing at 25, but that doesn't mean that it gives you a free pass to act like a idiot. 😬 A 23 year old is definitely, 100% an adult and kids should be raised in such a way that they can be responsible and at least somewhat mature by the time they reach 18.
Load More Replies...Okay Mom, you want to take responsibility for your child's actions? Better get a lawyer.
I would have suggested she bring that up to the judge during sentencing.
I had a third grade student whose mother felt that I favored other students over her son. She would call me and yell at me about not treating him fairly and lying. She snuck past the office a few times to come into the classroom to watch me teach (which of course is illegal and I’d have to call the office). She’d tell me and the principal that she was trying to “catch me in the act [of being dishonest].” (Of course my principal always defended me and dealt with the parent.)
As a final straw, the mother bought a watch with a voice recorder in it and the boy wore it to school. He yelled out in the middle of class suddenly, “I’m secretly recording you and you won’t teach here for much longer!” (An 8-yr-old!) Of course the watch was confiscated and the child was moved into a different classroom, though the school district could have legally moved him into another. But the mother still never backed down and the next teacher had similar issues.
I wish a recording watch like that would have been an option when I was the 8yr being bullied by my teacher. I might have said something like "a'ha! you're on record!" if she said something extra bad too
If you truly believe the system is that corrupt, in Canada and the US you have the right to homeschool. Based on the other lessons she's giving, this parent would be an awful teacher.
That's absurd! I bet she's one of the few who know the truth about how the earth is flat, and that intentionally exposing yourself to a deadly virus is the best way to protect yourself from it
Load More Replies...These are the most difficult kids because they are actually being taught that they don't have to respect you.
Idk. I have a feeling there’s more sides to this particular story.
I quit teaching high functioning special education when I taught my middle school kids how to dial 911 & work with an operator for assistance and got criticism from 5/6 parents for "traumatizing" their children.
The irony? One of the parents had choked about a year before and needed assistance, but my student was terrified, didn't know what to do and ran away. The woman had passed out on the lawn and a neighbor responded. They had to send the police to help search for the student it had frightened her that much.
This is so important for them to learn though. My brother is high functioning but still at a mentality of like a 4 year old and I wish I could get him to learn this. When I was a waitress there was a very high functioning and very capable busser who lived with his mom. Unfortunately one day she had fallen at home due to something medical related while he was home and he didn't realize that he should call 911 and didn't know how to either; she ended up passing away. Had he been taught what to do in an emergency he could've saved her life instead of leaving her there all night. It was just fortunate that he never was blamed or made to feel guilty. It drove me insane and made me so sad for him because he could've learned if he was taught; he was very capable of learning and could read and articulate thoughts but just was never taught what to do in an emergency
Thanks for your comment, I'm now thinking about teaching my mental disabled uncle how to call for emergency
Load More Replies...Recently, a child of 11 but with a very low mental ability was on a zoom call with a class mate on a Saturday afternoon to work on some homework. One of her class mates was working at the kitchen table to get help, which is how is mother saw the child was still in school uniform and tried a few questions and raised an alarm. Child had come home on Friday to find her father dead (it was just the 2 of them) and had no idea what to do or how to get help. Breaks your heart.
Is that really a common thing? My daughter is high functioning special needs, and does get anxious and upset when having to learn, or even think about it, but I knew it was something she NEEDS to know. It gives me peace of mind knowing she has some knowledge on what to do. It was harder for me to go through drills with her because of how scared she would get. But if there had been someone helping to teach her I would be super grateful. Now, her putting it into action during an actual emergency?... well... I have her on the emergency fire rescue alert on my lease just in case she panics and forgets what to do. At least she has a chance than if she were unaware. Her speaking to people on the phone is improving with practice, too.
If she attends a school or program then speak to the teacher/coordinator to work on it. Just being able to dial and say her address would be enough; won't even need to say what the emergency is. I keep trying with my brother but need his program to help because when I ask him our address he looks at me like I'm an idiot because I should know and then gets frustrated with me for asking (little shīt)
Load More Replies...Congrats mom, you traumatized your kid worse than if the kid could call 911!
Right. I think an emergency would be far more traumatic if you don't know what to do in the situation. When I was a child my grandmother told me to call 911. My parents came home and were upset with me for calling. I just did what I was told.
Load More Replies...That parent's grandparents probably had to do nuclear bomb drills. And my kids do school shooting drills.
HEY FOLKS, THIS IS IMPORTANT! As someone who might fall under your label of 'high functioning', that term is OUTDATED and YOU SHOULD NOT USE IT. Thank you!
Thank you, I didn't know this. What is your preferred term / is there a preferred way of saying it?
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There was a kid in middle school, who was caught selling substances. His mom gave the whole "my kid would never do such a thing" speech. The best part? His mom is a teacher at this same school.
My uncle was apparently caught with drugs at his high school way back when. My grandmother was called down to the school and made a huge deal about how it wasn't my uncle's fault. "It's the dealer's fault! You need to find and punish the dealer!" It eventually came out that the dealer was my other uncle (her youngest son).
Back in high-school, maybe 2000 or 2001, we had one classmate whose dad was high up on the school board, maybe superintendent, don't remember. Anyway, this kid got into drugs and alcohol and was failing and was just a disrespectful åsshole and one day he came to school drunk with vodka in a water bottle. He really thought he could get away with it because of his dad's position. His dad did not hold the school back from reprimanding him; he didn't do anything before but finally let his kid suffer the consequences and then sent him to a program to get help
Heh, heh... everyone knows the teacher or preacher have the wildest kids
I taught middle school for 1 year. We had a student who was being disruptive in all the classes. He was refusing to turn in work, or even do it. He was constantly causing trouble.
We had each tried several strategies to deal with the behavior in our own time. We had each talked to the parents numerous times, but they never did anything nor believed that the student was doing anything inappropriate. No one was having any success.
Eventually one of the teachers had enough so he suggested we do a meeting between all of the students teachers, the guidance counselor, a vice principal, the student, and his parents.
There are 6 teachers plus the vice principal and the guidance counselor all saying the same basic version of, student needs to pay attention, needs to do the work, needs to stop distracting other students, needs to be respectful, etc. etc.
The mother disbelieves us; its not the students fault. We all have it in for the student.
Nothing changed.
Teaching sucks
But it doesn't matter if the parents won't get it diagnosed or even admit there is a problem.
Load More Replies...Nothing is as painful persuasive, and persistent as the wrath of a furious stupid-a** mother
I originally went to college to be a teacher, made it through 3 years and into student teaching in the local public system. That's when I realized I couldn't do it. Take the time to reformulate your explanation 5 different ways for a kid that just. Can't. Learn. And then get screamed at by an enabling Mommy that You're the Incompetent because Darling Fru-Fru couldn't POSSIBLY be the problem....??? My a*s. You don't pay enough for that, and I'm not that dedicated to The Cause. Didn't become a teacher.
Had the student ever been tested for adhd / anxiety / both? Not saying it was definitely the case, but these sound like very plausible reasons.
My sister's school board, in California, decided they could tell their students they didn't have to wear masks. The kids that did were bullied. She finally did a "this is viruses work" lesson. Snot nosed little brat told her that was just her opinion. Her next lesson should have been "this is what settled science means". Btw. They need to teach more than the scientific method. Most people don't have any understanding of how academic research is vetted and reviewed. Nor do they understand that one experiment means little. Large scale analysis of many studies is much more relevant
My mom is a teacher, can confirm, teaching = lots of bullcrap from parents
Kind of a nuclear option for what is effectively a case of a kid being unhappy at school ( for WHATEVER reason), which is very common
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I work as a camp counselor for church camps. One girl I had in my cabin was an absolute brat. She would sass me, call girls in the cabin "idiots" and tell them she was better than them because she was in gifted classes, and she would punch some of the boy campers. She koalaed my friend who was a boys counselor, and ended up causing him to fall and bust his lip. When she was confronted about it, she just shrugged and said "he's the one who fell, it's his fault."
The final straw was when she got mad because I told her she couldn't go to the playground (we were literally eating lunch like, sit down and eat?) so she huffed and shoved my little sister into a chair screaming "GET OUT OF MY WAY BRAT". My sister only cries when she's mad. I looked over to her, completely shocked, and as soon as I saw tears welling up in her eyes I knew it was go time. I grabbed her, took her to my friend and as he tried to calm her down, I ran after this brat. I told her she had to apologize and she straight up went "my mom says I never have to apologize because people should be paying attention to me, when I get mad I blwo up, etc." Honestly I didn't hear her, I was seeing red because who the hell did this 10 yr old think she was hurting my sister? I ended up letting her get back to the cabin (she's crying and screaming at my older girls in the cabin now) and I got the camp director. He yelled at her, made her apologize, and told me to call her mom. Called the mom, and this lady seriously went "she didn't seem to do anything wrong, maybe that little girl should grow some thicker skin." ....excuse me? My sister is super thick skinned. Your brat just pissed her off, because who wants to be pushed into a metal chair like that?
wow sorry that's so long lmao. I've never been so mad at a kid before in my life. I hope this brat doesn't end up in my cabin again.
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As an older sister, I would've just drop-kicked her if she did that to my lil sis
First sentence: camp counselor for church... My personal version of h**l on earth.
Couldn't you just tell the Mom violence will not be tolerated and you need to come get her now?
In had a 5th grade girl like this. Her mom literally told her she didn't have to listen to or talk to the aides on the playground and she could leave and go to the office any time she wanted to talk to the principal. Any time we questioned where she was going, she said her mom told her she didn't have to tell us. Principal told her and her mom how wrong they were, didn't change much.
I'm a nanny on the upper east side of New York and while my boss is a good non-helicopter father, I routinely have play dates with other kids. I have a 4, 8, and 13 year old, so I've seen it all. My two favorites though:
A mother of one of my girl's little friends called my boss up furious and insisting he fire me because I let her child play with sidewalk paint. She was mad I made her seven year old use a paint brush, instead of doing the drawing for him after he told me what he wants. He could've poked his eye out with a brush according to her, and it was irresponsible.
The saddest part was that little boy told me before he left how fun it was we made the paints ourselves and then got to use them.
My 13 year old had a sleepover and I got a four page list of things one girl wasn't allowed to do or eat. When I asked her about it, she told me she was only allergic to hazelnuts, and everything on the list was there because her mom 'didn't want her getting fat.' I let her eat with the girls (we had build your own nacho/quesadilla thing) and I took them to our bodega that is legitimately less than 250 feet away (it's the bottom level of an apartment building on our corner and we're not even in the middle of the block) and got candy and soda to watch movies around 10 after they begged me to do so, and her mother informed my boss two days later her kid was no longer allowed to be friends with his daughter and it was my fault, as it was irresponsible for me to let four girls leave the house after dark, with a chaperone or not.
I also have a great one about my four year old's team hockey mom threatening to call cps on me so she could get my boss' attention, but that's less helicopter parenting and more pathetic.
I've heard people in Finland use the after dark card and it's just insane. In the south in December the curfew would be 3pm and in the summer around 23pm. Artificial light is a thing dear worrywarts
That’s so funny, I had a friends’ grandparents who lived near me as a kid and one arvo on a Saturday, my friend was staying with her grandparents and I walked over to see her and play etc, when it came for me to go home at 4pm (in Australia) she made a huge deal of not letting me walk back home alone cos that’s ‘ when all the creepys and kidnappers come out’ - I was a street kid already climatised to street life (aka I knew my streets and the people on them) so at the time I thought it was so stupid and funny, I still do thinks it’s funny now.
Load More Replies...I still remember playing in puddles with my 3 yr old and the sad, hungry look of the other 3,4 yr olds who, on their miniSUVs came driving up with their parents who said "Ugh, NO you can't play in that filthy water." Dudes, they're children and they're washable; do you not have a shower? I felt so sad for those kids who couldn't be kids.
It's not just parents, it can be an entire culture. I work as international director for a high school. Some cultures are so rigid and strict with education that they kill all the fun it it for kids. I have one girl who is with us for 2 terms, she is dreading going home, back to the joyless structure, where she has no freedom to try new things, to have some balance in life, to experience.
I had a parent swear I was targeting son and that he was failing my class because I was refusing to allow him his modifications (he was severely dysgraphic). That’s a very serious accusation and can result in sanctions against your teaching license and federal lawsuits. To prove that I was following his plan and that he simply wasn’t doing his work, I started sending him to the Special Education lab which allows kids with modifications and accommodations to have a quiet place to work and a smaller teacher to student ratio. He immediately decides to cheat on his work so his grades will go up and it will look like I was the problem but the teachers in the lab caught it and documented it for me. The mom insisted that he just felt pressured to perform (which he may have but it wasn’t coming from me). The mom and I clashed the rest of the year. The next year one of my students who had been in the class brought me a newspaper article where the kid had been arrested for drug possession and told me he was in rehab. Overall the kid was a terribly behaved turd but I still felt bad for him because he had to go home to his mom.
there no such thing as a incompetent, conceited, paranoid mot- ...
My parents never told me I had dysgraphia. They didn't want me to feel disabled. It was so frustrating and I felt like I was stupid. I wish they had just told me. I finally figured it out when I met a woman who also had dysgraphia. I was so relieved to finally know I just had a learning disability
It’s an impairment of handwriting and/or motor skills. Sometimes people who are dysgraphic will write letters backwards, or distorted, or have trouble forming letters. Sometimes they cannot write/draw in a straight line or cannot control a writing implement. Sometimes it’s a mix of those things. It’s not a lack of learning, it’s a learning disability. (I’m severely dyscalculic myself, so I learned about the other forms of learning disabilities too!)
Load More Replies...The learning disability combined with the mom left him with no hope that he will succeed in the normie world. This is why 25% of kids with adhd don't graduate high school and the percentage of convicts with adhd far outweighs the national average. United States
Volunteer at a library, a mom wouldn't let her 10 year old kid read "Diary of a Wimpy Kid" because "they sin".
As the child of an evangelical mother, I felt this. I was fortunate that my mother had no interest in books and that, as a result, I could get away with reading a lot. But movies and TV? That was another story entirely. A child of the 80s, I wasn't allowed to watch Beetlejuice because it was "the occult". I wasn't allowed to watch the Disney movie "Bambi" because of the "violent" way the film begins. I was in a middle school production of "The Wizard of Oz" in the role of Glinda; my mother tried to prevent it but my father stepped in, so she simply refused to see my performances. I had to "pray" every morning before I left for school and she hung crucifixes in my closet. People like this are complete head cases.
My mom was upset about me watching the original Star Trek because it taught evolution. But she did let me watch it. She just made her feelings known. It's sad to me that she had such a narrow way of looking at the world. I ended up as a person of faith, but God is so much bigger than ridgid thinkers understand.
I see the mom's point - those books may encourage a kid to disrespect others - and I also see the OP's point, sheltering children too much doesn't end up well. But what we can all agree one is that simply saying "they sin" makes no sense because everybody sins.
My cousin's conservative Christian mother wouldn't let her read the CS Lewis Narnia books because "animals can't talk and magic isn't real, so they're evil." They're literally Christian allegory. CS Lewis and Madeline L'Engel (Wrinkle In Time) are unapologetic Christian philosophers. Massive facepalm.
I have seen the Harry Potter movies and they may have a dark element to them but all their magic is made up and nothing lime the real thing .
I had posted this some time ago on r/childfree. When I was 21, I was still living with my parents. Our neighbours were just the worst kind of parents. They let their kids bully other children and harass people's pets. One time the kids were bullying the puppies of a stray dog that lived in our neighbourhood, pulling their tails, twisting their ears etc. Predictably and understandably, the mama dog growled and snapped at them. Some of the other neighbours tries to tell them that they shouldn't abuse animals. The kid's mom began yelling that a "dangerous" animal almost killed her babies.
One day they came to our place for dinner. I couldn't stand this family so I decided to eat in my room. Then suddenly I heard our puppy let out a painful yelp. Turns out the girl had kicked him. I ran downstairs immediately and picked him up while staring daggers at the kids. Their parents just smiled and said " oh the kids were just playing with your pup"
I lost my temper and yelled at them to get the f**k out. They left grumbling about how rude I was being. However, in just a few days, the mom asked my step mom, who is a teacher, to tutor her kids. Free of cost, of course.
When I was a kid, my mom was married to this horrible person who would pull my hair, pinch me, punch me in the arm. He was 'just playing'. No, it wasn't playing, it's abuse. F**k that mom and poor doggo.
Load More Replies...Torturing animals is a sign of sociopathy. Those kids needed intervention.
You kick my dog, you get the same treatment. I swear to God if anyone hits or kicks my dogs, I might end up in jail.
I want to break the parents neck and send the kids to better parents to give them a chance to be good people
Sounds like the whole neighborhood is a bunch of AHs for not helping a homeless dog and then let it and its puppies be tortured.
Right? No one took the dog and puppies to the shelter?
Load More Replies...I'd literally kick the kid so hard it couldn't bloody walk after kicking my dog
Once some kids were messing with my dog's tail with is very fluffy and curly, and I told them to stop. They laughed and then acted shocked and scared when he growled at them after putting up with them for a minute. Thankfully we are Ukrainian and the mom just said "Good for you, You probably deserved it" instead of defending the child like American moms. No hate on Americans btw I probably just didn't have very good experiences with them. :))
My step brother used to do that to my dog. Did that in front of my father one day, dad warned him more than once, the dog warned him more than once. Finally doggo snapped, gave him a tiny nip. Step brother howled to his mother like he had been mauled and she wanted doggo put down. Dad told her to foxtrot and maybe he will learn to not fuq with my dog anymore.
I taught middle school social studies and we would watch Channel One news daily and write in our writing journals about what we saw and heard that stood out or was interesting. Then we would have brief 5-10 min discussions after and allow kids to read or respond. This was in 2013-15 when there were a lot of stories about gay marriage at the Supreme Court, transgender bathroom laws, Syria, protests, etc...
Well, I was mentioned several times on the school’s unofficial Facebook page that I had a gay agenda and that I was trying to teach students about the gay lifestyle. Two parents banded together and got other parents whose kids were not even in my class to confront the school board. They did official investigation and I was told to stay home for a few days. It all amounted to nothing after they interviewed the kids and clarified the situation and even read some of the journals. I basically got two days off with pay, but I did not like the scrutiny in a SS class where teaching current events is important.
Its only getting worse *points to a specific area of mentally defective people who follow a moron of a single letter*
Load More Replies...So glad to hear channel 1 news was still a thing. Loved that show. Of course I live in FL so nowadays the teacher would have been immediately fired and probably sued. It's gotten so bad here
I pray you aren't in Florida, the state where education goes to die.
"Gay agenda" "critical race theory" "it's racist to tell the truth about what our ancestors did" all code for haters that don't want to change
It's funny how all these people who whinged about the gay agenda can never actually tell you what it is.
Yes, I'm sorry that the world is sometimes a terrible place but as kids grow up they need to learn about the world, including the terrible bits.
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Work at a Summer Camp and we told scary stories. One of the boys in the camp couldn't sleep for the whole week because of some of the stories so his mom demanded the scary stories be banned otherwise she would basically badmouth our programs. The next Monday the boy complained to me that we couldn't tell scary stories anymore and was upset about it... Tell that to your f*****g mom...
I'm a little torn on this one. A kid not sleeping for a week because of scary stories probably does mean that kid shouldn't participate. But everything really depends on the age group. It might not be appropriate at all if these are really small kids and the mom was right to call them out. If they're pre-teens or older, the mom was being a little too much.
Same thought. And even if they're teens and one of the group can't get a decent night's sleep because the scary stories are causing anxiety, then my question is: Why the heck can't you find another way to entertain yourselves? Why are you pushing scary stories evening after evening when it's hurting one of the group?
Load More Replies...I understand the mom's concern but her approach was terrible. What do you gain by being demanding, rude and threatening? That others shut down their willingness to help. Usually people like to help. Had she talked to them politely explaining her concern and asking them if there was a way to find a solution, I am pretty sure they would happily find a compromise.
This would be one of those ESA but the kid type thing. Boundaries and limits are necessary for young minds. Etc etc.
I used to want to sleep overnight at the skating rink as a kid specifically because of the ghost/scary stories about it. Daycare was fun there though they didn't let us skate. We still got to do the limbo stuff and they let us play laser tag
Back when I worked with kids I used to tell them scary stuff all the time, because they found it so fascinating. Once I explained to a kid how the "Bloody Mary" mirror trick actually works ("There's no monster, it's just your brain making things up!") because I thought it would be educational. The following week she comes back saying "My Mummy says I didn't sleep for three days after you told me that!" I said "Oh I'm sorry!" and the kid said "Now tell me something else!"
Tell the kid the truth, "hey man, don't tell mommy every single thing, cuz sometimes it comes back to bite you in the butt"
I'm kind of surprised at the author's lack of insight. Given the last 2 sentences, I suspect the writer may stiil be in their teens...
Had a father tell the principal that his son could call three Jewish brothers anti-Semitic slurs because they were of the devil and his son followed the true word of god. He claimed the school would be violating HIS (the sons) rights with any disciplinary actions. There were no disciplinary actions taken. 1980s.
Trust me, they wouldnt do anything today. Majority of Jewish kids in Public School have experienced antisemitism, some even from teachers (several school districts have been caught in scandals) and most are never dealt with, some schools were caught refusing to file any antisemitism complaints, so it wouldnt show up on their records. I mean 76% of Jewish university students have experienced antisemitism, but less than 1% of complaints are investigated. They wouldnt do anything today either
there was a swastika drawn on a desk in my middle school a week or two ago
Load More Replies...Excuse me.. WHAT!? I'm Christian and if I read the Bible correctly, didn't God come down to earth specifically for Jews? He later accepted Gentiles and all that but Jews were His holy people! How can people be so narrow-minded? I don't think anyone deserves hate for a religion.
The problem most people have is "they killed our savior", (hello, but wasn't it sort of "the plan" all along-"the plan" for whatever is normally such a big deal 🙄), and act as if it's still the fault of all living Jews today. Ridiculous thinking, but some religious nuts have so much wrong with themselves it's hard to know where to start
Load More Replies...I’m a Messianic Jewish Gentile (Christian of Jewish and non-Jewish ethnicity) and reading this ticks me off more than I can say. I am so grateful that most Christians do nothing like this and this family is a poor representation of the truth of God’s Word! As an educator, I am grateful my administrators would not permit bullying like this, let alone any bullying- ever!
I work in a high school and this would NOT be tolerated. Our school works very hard to teach and practice inclusion. And most schools in my country are the same.
Load More Replies...Poor kids. This dad is mentally ill. I hope when these kids grew up they figured it out. Must be tough with parents like this.
As a Jew this is horrifying, but I went through the same thing in the 80's:(
I'm sorry that you have been a target of antisemitism. There is absolutely no excuse for it.
Load More Replies...I am jewish, and because of all of this horrible anti-semitism, I am actually sometimes scared of telling people about my identity. I am not an orthodox, yet I keep kosher, and some people have noticed that, and one of my close friends (an atheist) told me that it is illogical, yet he still respects me for it. I recently went to a meet-the-author with an author called Dara Horn. She is a jewish author and has wrote many good books. She is an amazing author, and I would recommend her books. She addressed many things on judaism, and anti semitism. I have not experienced any antisemitism yet, fortunately though. There was actually a girl at my middle school who was bullied so badly, because she was jewish, that she actually transferred schools. This was a few years ago, but this is still just so sad.
I work daily with kids in outdoor programs. I screamed at a kid who was about to run into the road while a car was coming. The only time I ever scream like that is when a child’s life is in danger. The child proceeded to have a meltdown because, as I later found out, he never gets disciplined and his parents never hold boundaries with him. His mother was there and comforted him. She wasn’t mad at me but she was saying “forest-ninja is sorry she yelled at you!” and I was like “No, I’m not. I stopped him from getting hit by a car.” I’ve gotten to know this child over two years and he is so disruptive and is never held accountable. It’s pretty scary. Because I work in nature education I meet a lot of parents experimenting with alternative parenting and most methods do more harm than good. Be in charge, you’re the adult.
I told my kids, I'm not your friend, I'm your parent, all the time when they were growing up. Told them, my job is to send you out into the world to be a successful adult, we can be friends after that. They took it to heart, because now that they are successful adults, I see them more than I ever did when they were in high school, and they always want to do things with their mom and I.
A lot of people in this comment section are saying parents should be caring, compassionate, and even "friendly," but not "friends". I have always considered my mom to be one of my closest friends, precisely because she is honest with me, sets reasonable boundaries, and cares for me deeply. That's also what I expect from my friends. It seems like we all agree that parents should love their kids and treat them with care and respect while also setting and holding boundaries and making rules. We just disagree about whether to call that being a friend or being a parent—which is probably much less important.
Load More Replies...My parents never acted as friends, only parents. Unfortunately that carried over into my adulthood. Didn't enjoy visiting my mom and dad but enjoyed (for the most part!) visiting the in-laws.
I heard about that alternative parenting. The man who came up with it later said that it was the stupidest thing to create when he saw what happened to children who had that type of parenting 30 years later compared to children who had the regular parenting.
For a few years in the mid 1980's I was a volunteer helper in a pre-K class, I got along really well with the teachers and the children except one little boy. One day he walked up to me, punched me in the gut and said "why are you so f#@%ing fat" a but shocked I told him he shouldn't use language like that, he then started yelling and cussing like crazy. The teacher came over and whispered to me to just turn my back and ignore him. She later informed me that the boys mother demands they let him say whatever he wants to say, it's his 1st amendment right and she has a lawyer... etc... One day while I was waiting to pick up my son (3rd grade student) the brat boy and his mother approached me and in front of teachers, students, parents and security (an off duty police officer) she said "so you are the fat f#@%ing a$$&0le that doesn't want my son expressing..." I cut her off before she could continue " listen you cheap trailer trash wh@%e, don't lecture me about freedom of expression. This about having manners and showing respect to others, something a 2 bit slob like you can't possibly understand " about then several people started to laugh at her, others were applauding and the security guard escorted her off school grounds.
Kid never did any work in class, was caught trying to cheat numerous times and overall was a disruption. I never like to just give a kid a zero so I’d given him numerous opportunities to make up work and redo the stuff he cheated on. Rarely took advantage of it and was missing a lot of work.
One day I got an email from his mother asking why his grade was so low and as to why I was ‘slacking off’ on putting his work into my grade book. Overall the email was probably 5-6 paragraphs long berating me, I was a student teacher at the time so “I knew nothing. “ The work she was referring to was stuff he had turned in about 2 hours before this email came to me (everything got turned into our school website in this class so it was all digital.) Needless to say I quickly figured out the kid bsed his work, told his mom it was all my fault that his grade was so low because I wasn’t doing my job, and overall I should feel ashamed for putting him in that position. I sent her a nice reply pointing out the time stamps on the assignment showing he’d only recently sent the stuff in and that I normally try to get everything in about 24 hours after it gets submitted, but that it may be a little longer when assignments are turned in late. Mother never replied back after realizing her son had lied to her about basically everything.
I'm sure somehow that it's still your fault. (Or at least that's what she's thinking...)
Less helicopter parent, more “my child is innocent” and a scam. My mom was kicked out of work (temporarily) from her underprivileged school until this case was settled. A kindergartener had just gotten her ears pierced and she took the earrings out in class because they hurt. The teacher sent her to the health secretary (my mom) and the little girl lost an earring somewhere along the way. Cleaned the ears and sent her back to class. Mother of the child sued my mom and filed a case with the school because I guess the earrings were solid gold and diamond. I guess that’s what Claire’s pierced with, seems legit. Tried to accuse my mom of stealing the earring, no chance that a 6 year old lost a tiny object. Of course the woman did not win in this situation and my mom got back to work but it was a whole bunch of baloney, accusing the teachers and office employees at the school for a lost earring and injured earlobe.
"no chance that a 6-year-old lost a tiny object" WTF MOTHER
My parents pierced my ears as an infant. The holes are uneven now and will not close up. And I friggin HATE earrings! I hated them as a kid. Was always being forced to wear them and then getting in trouble when they got lost. Kids shouldn't get their ears pierced until they're older.
My 5yo ask if she could get her ears pierced. I said yes *But* we also had a talk about tiny stuff getting lost, how the holes needs to be cleaned and inspected on the regular, that if I ever hear that she has been taunting someone else because she is allowed to have her ears pierced and the other kid isn't, she will loose that privileged asap, and I showed her the scar on my earlob, where my earring once got "whipped" out when I was playing with a skipping rope, not to scare her but to show her, that there's a good reason, that she isn't allowed to have in big earrings, because they will easily get caught on something when she are playing. She had her ears pierced at a proper piercing studio and she took getting poked as a champ. The earrings are never more expecive than I can afford it if one gets lost, and I never get angry aboute is after all I'm 42, and I still loose my earrings frequently.
Load More Replies...I hate parents who peirce small children's ears without telling them exactly what is happening and asking if they want them pierced, and clearly this poor baby was uneducated on what had happened and how to care for them.
It could be a cultural thing, but the parents should have definitely gotten them pierced from a professional and either taught the kid proper care or have kept an eye on her ears. I had my ears pierced when I was 2, my mom always kept an eye on how my ears were. She discovered that I can't wear artificial earrings for longer than a day, otherwise I get infections.
Load More Replies...Who would give valuables to a 6 year old, especially when you couldn’t watch them?!
Ha! I have a 12 year old. We were given the choice between the retainer that comes out and the one that screws in. Guess which one we chose?
I got my first glasses when I was four. Within months, after being broken a few times, when I went out to play, I had to leave my eyes with my mom. So, the new, clear world just got fuzzy again when I was out playing. But, if I was going out to sit under a tree and read, I had my eyes.
1. Claires turns my skin green. 2. Total scam. 3. Some parents know d**n well the kid is guilty and will defend them to the grave. 4. Talk about setting the kid up to fail
Had a kid bite another kid, had pictures of the bite mark where teeth were clearly visible and the kid admitted to biting the other kid because he got in his way. Parents said he would never bite anyone and that the picture could be of any type of injury...
Had this happen with son in daycare. Kid kept biting him, left marks but no puncture. Parents insisted my son must have done something to deserve it. After the 4th time, I told son to bite him back. A few days later this kid bites him, so son bites him back. Leaves a mark, nothing serious. Kids parents went apest!t over it. After listening to them in a meeting I finally said "He must have done something to deserve it, right?" Thought the director was going to lose it. Kid was kicked out not long after for pushing a kid off steps to the slide. Parents insisted the kid must have fallen, they're kid wouldn't do that
My nephew was a biter in pre-school but his parents absolutely took it seriously and felt terrible for the kids he bit. They immediately started working with him on alternate ways to express his frustration and taught him that teeth are ONLY for eating. I can't imagine my kid behaving badly in school and then blaming it on someone else. That's part of being a parent - you have to help them understand what kind of behavior is acceptable and what's not OK.
I upvote for the cat, even though the story has nothing to do with cats. Cats always get upvotes.
(Preschool teacher here) but one that comes to mind is this one particular one. We told this mom for YEARS her son needed to be seen by a doctor for his behavior, but she rugswept. And denied. And blamed. We went around in circles with her from the day he began at 2 yrs old until he went to kindergarten. Actually, we still do now and he’s in 1st grade and in our after school program. These are ACTUAL quotes that flew out of moms mouth as soon as we told her her son’s behavior for that day: “Well, he had two servings of fruit last night with dinner” (When she was told he had an awful day, and could not keep his hands to himself nor listen to directions). This is my favorite excuse of all time. “He had a play date (on Saturday)...those always rile him up” when told about similar behavior...on a Tuesday. “Well, he’s been with his dad for two days” NOW THIS ONE- dad did not mess around. This child listened to and respected dad MUCH more than mom, because he disciplined him. He held him accountable. Mom’s interpretation of his behavior was his dads fault...not her son flying off the handle in her care because he knew he’d get away with it unlike at dad’s. “Well when he’s with THAT child, his behavior gets worse”. No. It doesn’t. Similarly “Well what did THAT child (any child) do to him?” when told about altercations with other children. You see the point. Nothing was her son’s fault. Nothing. And he knew that. When she told me he had been diagnosed with ADHD I wasn’t nearly as surprised as she thought I would be. He’s now in our after school program and our driver overheard his 1st grade teacher “Oh thank God” when she saw that she (van driver) was there to pick him up. Even his school teacher can’t handle him in class I have heard from the grapevine. He also had a younger sister, who’s been kicked out of another school (and was well on her way to being kicked out of ours when I left) for her behavior also. She’s only 3. Examples include peeing on a teacher when she didn’t get her way, hitting and kicking other staff, etc. She is her brother except worse in some ways. I have more stories about more children (and this child) if there’s interest.
here's one i found on their Reddit page: "I had a parent that literally did everything for her (age 3-4 I had him) son. He couldn’t even put his own jacket on...he didn’t know how. I remember one day we were having a calm day and I let the kids go to an activity of their choice. Kid wanted to play at a certain table and I told him go ahead, just grab an extra chair. He grabbed the chair (we finally got him to do that on his own) and as he went to carry it over to the activity, another classmate was sitting too far into he aisle. He stopped. And he waited. And waited some more, just staring at her. I watched and was starting to wonder what was going on when he full on began to cry and ran to me bawling. I, totally confused, asked him what was wrong. He told me “I can’t get my chair through, she’s in my way”. I told him “Go ask her to move it then?” His mom wasn’t there to do it for him. It was sad really...kid had zero coping skills.”
Load More Replies...Sugar at night CAN rile a kid up and cause the whole next day to be a sh*t show.
With stuff like this can you tell some sort of authority? Not cps level but someone needs to help this kid. Can they force the mom to see a specialist or something? I don’t have kids but the principal or someone needs to have a talk or multiple talks with both parents. It’s ridiculous they let it get this bad.
Since there is so much documentation nowadays can we start suing parents for raising monsters despite repeated warnings?
Give the dad more authority. It sounds like a rare occasion for the kid to be with his actually helpful dad.
While studying I work in an after school care.
One day a 9yr old was showing everyone his lighter by trying to set the shirt he was wearing on fire, I obviously took the lighter off him. When his mother came to pick him up I handed it to her and told her about him trying to set his shirt on fire.
Turns out it was her lighter, so I had "no right" to confiscate it and her son just wouldn't try to set his clothes in fire because "He's not an idiot", so I must be making that up.
Her brain cells went away after whatever she used that lighter for.
You're right, your son isn't an idiot. He's 9. I've met many kids that age, myself included at that age, that did the dumbest stuff because they were not aware of their own mortality. No concept of death or consequences, just willing to experiment and experience the world. Mom just got offended because it could be seen as a dig on her parenting.
This is why programs need rules about forbidden items like weapons and for producing items. Then when parents decide to act like complete aholes, you can counter with the argument of since it's a forbidden item, brat is now suspended or expelled.
Fire. Fire producing items. I really get tired of bp and Siri auto correct changing words part way through my sentences after I've verified I've typed the correct words.
Load More Replies...I guess the take away here is let the kid set his self on fire first before taking the lighter.
Some time in 2012 (I distinctly remember it happening not long after Sandy Hook), a 4th grader I worked with was taking apart a highlighter at the sink and overflowing a cup. I asked him what his intention was and he said "I'm going to poison a girl I don't like with highlighter juice." I asked why he would do that and he said "I REALLY REALLY HATE HER."
I told my dunce of a superior about this and she said "oh he's just being dramatic" and blew me off. I told her if she did not escalate this i'm going over her head and she said fine. When his mom came to pick him up we explained what happened and she looked at him like "oh my did you really do this???" in a way like she's never heard him do anything close to this. This was not the first time we've had issues with this kid that involved telling his parents, but she just sounded so surprised THIS time.
The next afternoon I could hear the kid from across the room telling his friends under his breath how he hated me for reporting this. The kid fricken openly admitted he wanted to poison someone, and the cup in the sink was full of yellow water. For the rest of the week when he got picked up by mom she asked him how his day went and he gave her the puppy dog eye treatment as if plotting to injure someone didn't happen a few days earlier. She was so whipped. Parenting is awful these days I swear. I'm no longer in the field.
This kid has the making of a Slytherin
Load More Replies...I'm willing to take the downvotes on this. Highlighter juice never nor will it ever kill anyone. What CAN harm students is failure of an adult to ask why. Rushing to punish without digging is how problems/issues go unnoticed/slip by. Talk to the child. Work with the child. Probably good that this person has left the field.
The highlighter wasn't the problem, it was the intention behind it. The kid was fulling intending to hurt someone just because they didn't like the person. That kind of behavior needs to be checked fast. The highlighter would fail, so what's the next step? Remember last year, a 6 year old shot his teacher with a gun. It wasn't an accident. The teacher here did the correct thing, they asked why. They couldn't punish without parental consent, and mom doesn't believe her little baby is capable of harming another.
Load More Replies...It doesn't work. I've colored on my tongue with highlighter
That’s not the point. The point was that this kid WANTED to poison/kill another student.
Load More Replies...My son's step brother told him he likes to hurt people. Then had a look my son described as "maybe i should say that out loud" and he said he was just joking. Kid was 12. My ex expouses at length about what a loving family and wonderful kids they are.
I'll give two examples. One suburban, one inner city.
Suburban: Kid asked where dogs came from. Not sure why, I was an English teacher. I said they were bred from wolves, and gave two common explanations for how human interaction may have started. Mom called the school, then called me, freaking out that I mentioned evolution. Turned into a whole thing.
Inner city: Teen sucker punched some poor girl, then punched me in the face when I broke them up. Ended up getting escorted off by campus cop. Dad, who was obviously a crackhead, showed up to the school and started threatening to kick everyone's a*s.
For some reason people are getting domestication confused with evolution. Wolves did NOT evolve into dogs, they were domesticated and selectively bred by humans to favor certain desired traits. OP was not teaching evolution. This has nothing to do with religion.
Yes, dogs were selectively bread by humans over centuries. They did not evolve that way on their own. However, it's the same principles at play. A good science teacher would discuss this. OP states "Mom called the school, then called me, freaking out that I mentioned evolution", so I'm curious why you state that it has nothing to do with religion, when the only people who get bent out of shape about science teachers teaching science seem to be religious.
Load More Replies...To be fair, those people who deny evolution serve as the best arguments against it.
Teacher here. We had a student, 5th grade, who was pretty sneaky at first. He acted innocent but he was far from it. I'll jump to the end. He stepped on someone when they were laying down during free reading time. He would constantly talk and prevent the class from getting to lunch and specials on time, and did this just to cause trouble. He hit someone with a meter stick. He would "accidentally" kick people. He stole stuff. He cursed. Mom came out and said we were singling him out and he would never do those things and told us to stop contacting her. Later he did something else, something like ripping up classroom decorations or something like that, and the principal saw it. Principal called mom. Instead of accepting her child does wrong she pulled him out of school. Since he hadn't been doing his work this kid that was actually quite smart had all F's as transfer grades.
A parent at my school worked for the district but in a different department. Her daughter was really average. Not an A student but not failing. There was no way this kid was a top performer in any way but probably had a solid college career ahead of her.
Well that wasnt good enough for mom and she wanted the kid to be valedictorian or nothing else. So she read the entire handbook on school accommodations and learning disabilities and began petitioning. She managed to get her kid labeled as needing accommodations and then helicoptered the teacher to make sure they were being met. If the kid got lower than an A she would find something that the teacher didnt do and bring it up with admin.
It became such a problem that the teacher was receiving emails almost 2x per day, and the admin was getting multiple calls per day. The teacher had to hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit for harassment with the union. The mom counter sued of course and things got heated for a while. I remember the superintendent even getting involved. Every f*****g person in admin knew she was full of s**t and making it up. No one could call her out cause she was crazy, had money and was ready to sue.. They managed to somehow settle with her. Basically wait it out until summer. The only consequence she faced was related to emails. Apparently she was using her work email to harass the teacher. They started monitoring her computer use and she was no longer allowed to communicate with the teacher in question.
TLDR: bats*it crazy mom read the handbook on school policy. Harassed the teacher for any supposed misstep. It got so bad lawyers got involved.
I once took a babysitting job when I was 17 too earn some extra cash, the 9 year old child wanted to play soccer inside, I told him many times not to do it and even took the ball away, he had another one and kicked the ball all around the house completely ignoring me, he broke a lamp, some picture frames after knocking down a shelf, and a window. When the parents came home they blamed me for the damages and thought I was screwing around in the house, why? Because the kid said I was doing that, never took another babysitting job after that.
Edit: The breaking things part happens in a span of 1 minute so there wasn’t much I could do especially since he would basically just play keep away with me
Had a pretty typical red/yellow/green behavior chart. One child was just transferred to me, not a completely terrible kid but had a habit of not know where the line was so it got him in trouble from time to time. Every time I flipped his card to a yellow or red would always let the parent know what happened and what we’re going to do to stop he behavior in future. She then goes off on how it’s the other little kid causing the problems and her child is perfect. I let here know that while there isn’t a perfect person in the scenario both kids could have acted in a different way. She then stated and I’m not kidding “I know that the other kid is a dirty foster child (still to this day don’t know how she learned this) and he assaulted my child! (Foster child pushed back after kidding hit by her child)” SHE DID THIS INFRONT OF THE OTHER CHILD! I told her to meet me in the office. Had a meeting with the director and she was no longer allowed in my classroom. However had to take down my behavior chart which kinda blew because of how well it was working.
😡The children in foster care deal with enough emotional trauma and other c**p. The parents of their classmates should not be adding to that list!
Righ?! Damn I respect the level of calm with which this teacher handled that because I'm not sure I would have been able to restrain myself from ripping in to this woman
Load More Replies...What kind of a person was that director to give in to someone like that????
Not a child care worker, but one of oldest friends suffered from this. It's been passed so many times around my parents friend group it isn't even funny. His mom basically did all of his homework through high-school. He was a very bright kid, but had no motivation as his mom did everything for him. Once he went to college and moved out it was apparent that he didn't have the life skills to succeed on his own. His parents desperately wanted him to pass in college and tried so hard, but he eventually failed and dropped out. From what I gather now he still lives at his parents house and tries to hold jobs his mother gets for him, but can never get into work on time and always gets fired.
I feel super sorry for the guy because he would of been a good dude in society if his parents didn't mess it all up. I think he might have some underlying signs of ADHD, but he was never tested.
I volunteered at the reference desk in the public library and one day a woman came over and asked for help, She had a sheet of paper with her and I asked what it was, and she said it was her son's homework. "Where's your son?" "Oh, he's over there" (reading a magazine) I asked why he wasn't doing it, and she said, he wouldn't get a good grade. So, I said "I'll help your son with his homework, I won't help you do it for him." She went to complain to the Librarian, who came and talked to me and I told her what the deal was. She backed me. Mom went across to the City Hall and talked to a County Commissioner, complaining that the Library staff were refusing to help her, and the Librarian had to go over and explain. CC told mom "Tough luck."
Mother went through alot just to sabotage her kids future... glad yall stopped her
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I emailed a parent to say their child was currently passing, but could technically fail the class if the did poorly on their final project and final exam. In the ensuing parent/teacher conference, I was told I was trying to fail the student and ruin his football scholarship.
Edit: Forgot I had another student, same situation, different year. The parents wanted the principal to be present for the conference. So instead, all of the administration, the student's counselor and myself were present. The dad tried getting into a shouting match with my principal and he left crying because his little girl *might* fail.
Edit 2: I went to history school instead of English school.
I didn’t answer a phone call from my parents in college and they called security at 7 am on a Saturday to knock on my dorm room to wake me up and call them. Talked to all my high school teachers prior to the first day of school to get extra books so I didn’t have to carry anything home. Wrote a hand written letter to me asking me not to go to my bf house during the week because the road was too dangerous. I was 23. Wrote my high school papers for me
Why are you guys being snarky in the comments? She's obviously realized that this isn't good behavior to be posting this, but y'all are acting like she's a bad person for her parents behavior. Also, she was a kid for most of it, how many teens do you know that tell their parents that they want to carry a bunch of books home and do homework? Talk about punishing the child for the sins of the father.
Sounds more like the parents wouldnt let up if she tried
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Preschool teacher here! A 4 year old would bully/tease/punch/pull other kid's hair and curse up a storm. He was so challenging to the point where a lot of focus was on him, and the other kids were following his lead and he took advantage of that hard. Nothing we said helped him change for the two years we had him. We gave him so many consequences and while we did reward good behavior, he rarely ever was... good.
Parents would completely baby him. They acted like he was innocent and his behavior was "cute" to them. They never took what we said seriously and think we exaggerate. He's going to Kindergarten now, so good riddance. ):
Is he full of energy constantly and can't keep still and other kids disturb him? Try the running game I invented many years ago. Every 45 minutes all kids get to run themselves crazy for 15 minutes which is enough to get their energy burnt out for another 45 minutes. One boy would start getting fidgety after about 30 minutes and he was allowed to do jumping Jacks until the end of the 45 minutes and then run again. Grades went up, parents started doing it at home with their kids because it worked. Sadly the principal that gave permission for me to try it retired at the end of the school year and the new principal said it was stupid. I do it with my grandkids now and it still works great
When I was a student teacher I had a student when he was in 7th grade and he was an absolute horror. Far more then the regular obnoxiousness common with that age. I mean this kid didn’t give a f**k and acted like he was invincible. He was mean, rude and didn’t listen to anything anyone had to say. From what the other teachers told me, he lived with his grandmother who was Native American, and anytime anyone at the school tried to talk to her about the issues they were having with him, she pulled out the race card and said that they were targeting her grandson because they were Native American, and not because her grandson was in fact a little a*****e. She’d threaten to sue, and the school stopped bothering to call her. He knew he could get away with anything and there was nothing they could do. I’m curious whatever happened to him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was in jail.
Grandma probably threatened to sue the prison, too. Or Grandson's in prison because he took Grandma out...
The mom of a girl I went to college with had a fax line installed in her daughter’s dorm room and made her send all of her homework assignments and papers to her for edits and approval before turning anything in. The girl is now a journalist at a prominent newspaper. I’ve always wondered if her mom is still ghostwriting.
I don’t think this one is bad, as long as the mom was suggesting edits and corrections and not doing all the changes for her. Like: ‘Could you make this sentence clearer? This is a bit redundant, how can you fix it?’ This type of help could make her successful.
Sounds like it did make her a successful journalist.
Load More Replies...It's not really ghostwriting if the girl is writing the papers, she's just getting them proofread. Which is totally valid and generally having someone else read over your work is recommended because sometimes your brain will trick you, so that you don't actually see the mistakes when you go over your own papers. The mom can't have been completely changing things without explaining why, or else the girl probably wouldn't still be working as a journalist.
You know newspapers have editors too right? She was ahead of the curve.
Was a houseparent at a boarding school. We naturally had a phone by the bed because it was a 24 hour operation. However, we also had a fax attached to the downstairs phone as we had worldwide students and their parents contacted them by fax. (Pre mobile era) One family from China sent daily faxes, but due to time differences they always rang at 4am...... Took weeks for them to understand that it would also ring the bedside phone.
I’m not sure if this counts as helicopter parenting but I was working with 3-5 year olds in an ESL program and there was one 3 year old that I could see the monster inside growing. I asked to speak to his mom (first time I’ve ever had to do that for a 3 year old) and laid out what I saw happening in her son. I explained to her what would happen if she didn’t start setting boundaries for him at home and giving him more structure. She basically told me to f**k off because she had “read some books.” I had nearly a decade of young child learned experience at that point and an advanced degree but it didn’t matter when compared to her books. Fast forward 2 1/2 years and many, many, many incidents/meetings later and mom was back in a meeting 8 months pregnant and bawling her eyes out because she was terrified of her son and how he’d react to a new baby at home. This is a kid who drew blood stabbing his “best friend” with a pencil because his friend reminded him of a rule. Not just that, the little monster had to get up from his table and walk a ways to get to the other kid to stab him. He finally got pulled from the program and I can only hope that mom finally pulled her head out of her a*s long enough to get him the help he so desperately needs.
Can you imagine being terrified of a 5 1/2 year old for your soon-to-be-born baby and yourself? That woman needed to grow a spine 5 years ago. I hope she gets that child in line.
That woman needed help 5 years ago for having unluckily birthed a psychopath and deluded herself because of the stigma and blame she knew was coming.
Load More Replies...Not a teacher or anything but: Back in middle school I had a friend who had anger management issues but we learned to adapt and he is still a pretty cool kid, but one day he had an outburst and he got super mad and started throwing wood chips at everyone and swearing like no tomorrow. This was the first time he acted out so it was pretty big drama for a week or two and during that my best friend was totally pissed at him so I suggested her calling his parents and discussing with them. Apparently the mom were saying stuff like "why would you just lie our faces like this!?" and "would you honestly believe _______ would do that?" (we were both there when it happened). But the one that still makes my blood boil to this day is was something along the lines of "if you keep lying to adults you're going to end up in prison" and I have never met _____'s mom before that but I just immediately DESPISED her afterwords. Me and my friends were separately called to the guidance counselor and I learned that people have taken advantage of him and he has been bullied a lot and we all apologized and ______ admitted he didn't want his mom involved but she forced herself into the situation. Still hate his mom tho
Wow all of this reminds of me of my best friend. She has turrets and is probably on the spectum. Super loud, didnt give a damn to the teachers, sent to the principal office once a week. She helped me out bc u i was a quiet and shy kid who got bullied. She also broke her toe at school and got a brain infection from a dead root in her mouth ( shes fine now!!) Anyways we're engaged now
A lot of these are really sad and frustrating. I feel bad for the sincere educators, counselors, and childcare workers who have to deal with entitled parents and kids. But, I also want to say that sometimes (rarely) people in positions of power over children ARE biased, bullies, or engage in other malicious behaviors. I think we've all had less than exemplary teachers. In fact, I think there's a post on BP about bad teachers. It's important to listen to any child who says that things aren't right in the classroom and do your best to determine if there's any truth to the claim. Kids do lie. Kids do cry wolf. They do make things up, but on the flip side, abuse--big and small--happens, too.
I have nothing but respect for what teachers do. It's important to take your kid's version seriously and back them up, but do it respectfully and be prepared to learn they're not being that truthful, but if they are it's important to show them you care and want to deal with it. Teaching is like any profession, unfortunately there are always some bad apples. My mum knew I was being bullied, my Dr knew I was being bullied, but they couldn't figure out who it was, and I wouldn't share. It was in my last couple of months of class that my mum realised it was the teacher, not one of the kids, doing the the bullying. She tried talking to the principle about it, they shut her down and said if I had a problem I should move schools (with 2 months to go before I moved into highschool). I didn't, but at least I knew mum had my back. That teacher ended up physically abusing a student a few years later and was finally let go. We learned she had a long history of that behaviour. Mum dealt with everyone involved respectfully, but fortunately she knew me well enough to know there was genuinely something wrong (and I never told her, she figured it out herself when something clicked at a parent/ teacher night. It was only then I admitted what I'd been going through). I was lucky that my mum was so amazing.
Load More Replies...I used to help organise a work experience programme for high school students who were going to apply to medical school. Places were limited, so we took students recommended by their school. They spent 10 days in hospital, in clinics, talking to patients, going to see procedures and operations (with patient consent), joining in ward rounds etc. I had one student who was the rudest, most patronising, entitled little s**t I've ever met-he was supposed to spend a morning workshadowing another healthcare professional (nurse, midwife, physio, speech therapist etc) to get some idea about teamworking and interprofessional patient management. He never bothered turning up because that would be a waste of his time. He was openly dismissive of staff who weren't doctors, just awful really. I had to do a report for their school on every student once I'd collated all the feedback, and his was not good. His mother phoned the hospital a few days later and demanded I was sacked for ruining his career.
And these are just some of the reasons why getting the parents involved with a kid's education is not always a good idea.
I have a very difficult child. I get some of these parents. I could not get any help for my child until he was 4 y/o. Pediatrician basically told me he was normal. He was not. He was hitting kids, tantruming, biting, running around, etc. Teachers were calling me everyday. I get the desire to be like, Don't call me anymore! It is so disheartening to have a child with behavioral issues like this. Am I being too strict? too lenient? what can I do? Etc. etc. Fortunately I'm a psychiatrist and I knew something was wrong. So at 4 Y/o we were finally able to get him in and get him diagnosed. Therapists are with him 4 hours a day at school now. Behavior is not perfect, but much better. I think the best you can do with parents like this is educate. Also, it's really easy to look at a parent and be like, it's bc you're doing X that Junior is like this. But sometimes the parent is doing X bc Junior is like that.
I commend you for seeing your child for who they are and providing the loving help they need.
Load More Replies...I thought this was supposed to be a “My Child Can Do No Wrong” article, not a helicopter parenting one..?
I taught Elementary. One that comes to mind was a blond girl at the beginning of the school year. I saw 700 kids a week, a new class ever 45 minutes. I had made alphabetical seating charts in advance. When it her turn to be seated she spoke in a load voice for all to hear that her parents would not allow her to stilt next to such a person. The guy across from her was Nigerian. A sweet well behaved intelligent boy. I was very proud how the class responded. They were jaw dropped surprised. I asked her to the hall and quickly explained the campus rules on racial behavior. Then I talked to the boy and said if she says or does anything harmful to you I will move her asap. Of course the mom called and wanted recommendations as to all white schools in the area. There weren't any. I suggested home schooling. She said as a white woman didn't I feel the same way? No sorry. I didn't. I explained our state standards on racial acceptance. She was pulled for homeschool by the end of the week.
A new fellow foreign teacher at a Beijing private high school was conducting a P E class when one boy attacked another and left him unconscious. The teacher lost his job for calling an ambulance. The "correct" procedure it seems was to call the bully's parents who employed their own medic to deal with these apparently frequent incidents and then compensated the victims family. The ambulance being called resulted in the police attending and the bully being punished for the first time in his life.
I am just sitting here with my jaw completely dropped. I'm so proud of all the teachers I have dealt with over the years. They take and take so much c**p- and to me are way underpaid! Just once- I would LOVE for a teacher to put a parent in their place - or a kid for that matter. I'd back them entirely! It must be so frustrating to not be able to just say what is needed. And to constantly have to choose their words carefully for fear of losing their job! Only once was I around when another parent at the school was playing the "not my kid" game- and I recall loudly stating- you're only hurting your own kid by pretending he isn't a menace to everyone here! Foul words were said- but later- both the teacher and aid thanked me privately. Something has to change!... but how??? And what??? Idk....
Teachers... we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, especially public school teachers whose classrooms are full of everyone. We don't get to pick and choose, we get every type of student. I've been doing this for over 3 decades and I'm ready to be done.
I've been in private school and it wa spretry much the same thing. The school needed the money, they had to show good results, therefore lack of discipline and work were barely punished
Load More Replies...A lot of these are really sad and frustrating. I feel bad for the sincere educators, counselors, and childcare workers who have to deal with entitled parents and kids. But, I also want to say that sometimes (rarely) people in positions of power over children ARE biased, bullies, or engage in other malicious behaviors. I think we've all had less than exemplary teachers. In fact, I think there's a post on BP about bad teachers. It's important to listen to any child who says that things aren't right in the classroom and do your best to determine if there's any truth to the claim. Kids do lie. Kids do cry wolf. They do make things up, but on the flip side, abuse--big and small--happens, too.
I have nothing but respect for what teachers do. It's important to take your kid's version seriously and back them up, but do it respectfully and be prepared to learn they're not being that truthful, but if they are it's important to show them you care and want to deal with it. Teaching is like any profession, unfortunately there are always some bad apples. My mum knew I was being bullied, my Dr knew I was being bullied, but they couldn't figure out who it was, and I wouldn't share. It was in my last couple of months of class that my mum realised it was the teacher, not one of the kids, doing the the bullying. She tried talking to the principle about it, they shut her down and said if I had a problem I should move schools (with 2 months to go before I moved into highschool). I didn't, but at least I knew mum had my back. That teacher ended up physically abusing a student a few years later and was finally let go. We learned she had a long history of that behaviour. Mum dealt with everyone involved respectfully, but fortunately she knew me well enough to know there was genuinely something wrong (and I never told her, she figured it out herself when something clicked at a parent/ teacher night. It was only then I admitted what I'd been going through). I was lucky that my mum was so amazing.
Load More Replies...I used to help organise a work experience programme for high school students who were going to apply to medical school. Places were limited, so we took students recommended by their school. They spent 10 days in hospital, in clinics, talking to patients, going to see procedures and operations (with patient consent), joining in ward rounds etc. I had one student who was the rudest, most patronising, entitled little s**t I've ever met-he was supposed to spend a morning workshadowing another healthcare professional (nurse, midwife, physio, speech therapist etc) to get some idea about teamworking and interprofessional patient management. He never bothered turning up because that would be a waste of his time. He was openly dismissive of staff who weren't doctors, just awful really. I had to do a report for their school on every student once I'd collated all the feedback, and his was not good. His mother phoned the hospital a few days later and demanded I was sacked for ruining his career.
And these are just some of the reasons why getting the parents involved with a kid's education is not always a good idea.
I have a very difficult child. I get some of these parents. I could not get any help for my child until he was 4 y/o. Pediatrician basically told me he was normal. He was not. He was hitting kids, tantruming, biting, running around, etc. Teachers were calling me everyday. I get the desire to be like, Don't call me anymore! It is so disheartening to have a child with behavioral issues like this. Am I being too strict? too lenient? what can I do? Etc. etc. Fortunately I'm a psychiatrist and I knew something was wrong. So at 4 Y/o we were finally able to get him in and get him diagnosed. Therapists are with him 4 hours a day at school now. Behavior is not perfect, but much better. I think the best you can do with parents like this is educate. Also, it's really easy to look at a parent and be like, it's bc you're doing X that Junior is like this. But sometimes the parent is doing X bc Junior is like that.
I commend you for seeing your child for who they are and providing the loving help they need.
Load More Replies...I thought this was supposed to be a “My Child Can Do No Wrong” article, not a helicopter parenting one..?
I taught Elementary. One that comes to mind was a blond girl at the beginning of the school year. I saw 700 kids a week, a new class ever 45 minutes. I had made alphabetical seating charts in advance. When it her turn to be seated she spoke in a load voice for all to hear that her parents would not allow her to stilt next to such a person. The guy across from her was Nigerian. A sweet well behaved intelligent boy. I was very proud how the class responded. They were jaw dropped surprised. I asked her to the hall and quickly explained the campus rules on racial behavior. Then I talked to the boy and said if she says or does anything harmful to you I will move her asap. Of course the mom called and wanted recommendations as to all white schools in the area. There weren't any. I suggested home schooling. She said as a white woman didn't I feel the same way? No sorry. I didn't. I explained our state standards on racial acceptance. She was pulled for homeschool by the end of the week.
A new fellow foreign teacher at a Beijing private high school was conducting a P E class when one boy attacked another and left him unconscious. The teacher lost his job for calling an ambulance. The "correct" procedure it seems was to call the bully's parents who employed their own medic to deal with these apparently frequent incidents and then compensated the victims family. The ambulance being called resulted in the police attending and the bully being punished for the first time in his life.
I am just sitting here with my jaw completely dropped. I'm so proud of all the teachers I have dealt with over the years. They take and take so much c**p- and to me are way underpaid! Just once- I would LOVE for a teacher to put a parent in their place - or a kid for that matter. I'd back them entirely! It must be so frustrating to not be able to just say what is needed. And to constantly have to choose their words carefully for fear of losing their job! Only once was I around when another parent at the school was playing the "not my kid" game- and I recall loudly stating- you're only hurting your own kid by pretending he isn't a menace to everyone here! Foul words were said- but later- both the teacher and aid thanked me privately. Something has to change!... but how??? And what??? Idk....
Teachers... we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, especially public school teachers whose classrooms are full of everyone. We don't get to pick and choose, we get every type of student. I've been doing this for over 3 decades and I'm ready to be done.
I've been in private school and it wa spretry much the same thing. The school needed the money, they had to show good results, therefore lack of discipline and work were barely punished
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