Arguing with the anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, and climate change deniers is a heck of a job. If you've ever tried, you’ll know what I am talking about.
And even though you recognize the fallacy in their arguments, like saying that masks don’t help to stop the coronavirus, you sometimes need heavy artillery.
Luckily, some people who know what they’re talking about have done everyone a service and stepped in to school the science deniers big time. From biochemists to sport scientists, these are some of the most mic-drop moves in stopping the spread of misinformation.
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I never knew that a simple apple had such a complex chemical composition. I learn something new everyday.
You can safely assume that this is true for everything natural you eat. Life is basically a very complex chemical reaction with MILLIONS of chemical compounds. Artificial foods tend to be FAR less complex, and their composition far more consistent. The main difference between natural chemical compounds and artificial chemical compounds is that, for the natural compounds, the "is this safe to eat or is it harmful" test has been done over and over for generations (by people getting ill or dying if they got it wrong).
Load More Replies...Anti-vaxxer logic: Why risk having a child with autism when you can have one with a wheelchair?
or even dead, and bringing back some diseases that were thought extint
Load More Replies...Lol that's one of my favorite jokes and I love jokes to the extent I make up several a week.
Load More Replies...My favourite some years ago was an elaborate website warning people about the perils of dihydrogen monoxide.
Haha yes! I post that on my facebook every once in a while. It's a great one.
Load More Replies...So apparently apples keep doctors away unless they have a PhD in Chemistry in which case it attracts them.
Anti vaxxer logic "I don't understand therefore I'm not going to lookup facts"
I'm a chemical engineer and I get so sick of people telling me something is "chemical" free. Now they like to spew the words "non-toxic". Water is one of the most toxic chemicals - more people die from drowning than any other chemical exposure
Good Missy Engineer - then you can tell everyone here that the chemical list of an apple in this post is fake.
Load More Replies...Well apparently some people are dumb enough to try injecting Lysol into themselves after the president suggested it. I consider anti vaxxers to be of the same risky mentality.
Load More Replies...Only when it's not fake. What happened to the Folate Vitamin C Vitamin K Carbohydrates Sugar Calcium Iron Magnesium Manganese Phosphorus Potassium Zinc Asparagine D-Categin Farnese P-Coumaric-Acid Avicularin Quercitin Rutin Ursolic-Acid Protocatechuic-Acid
Load More Replies...When Bored Panda doesn't bother to check to see if it's fake... like here... yes, it's priceless.
Load More Replies...Only because she believed the apple list. It's fake and Bored Panda shouldn't have posted it. Google 'chemical composition of apple' so you don't get burned.
Load More Replies...You've included the seeds of which are somewhat poisonous if consumed in vast rat testing quantities lol
Lordy!! I thought that was the make-up of something really scary, like Twinkies or Diet Coke.
Ha ha ha I feckin love it lol! Just goes to show how "educated" anti-vaxxers are lol! Brilliant
DId you fall for that list of chemicals? I believe in vaccines but I also believe in looking up stuff and so if you google 'chemical composition of apple', you'll see that list is fake.
Load More Replies...I have always genuinely wonder what anti-vaxxers are afraid of. Is the autism thing just an internet myth? Actually asking
Autism is often not recognized until around the time MMR is given. (If you know what to look for, it's evident earlier in family videos though.). Faced with a terrifying diagnosis, parents look for what happened "just before" and blame the vaccine. Then a doctor wrote a paper saying it was connected to the preservative in the vaccine, and got it published. The paper was debunked, the doctor lost his license, and the preservative was taken out of the vaccine, but there's no changing their minds. When you feel a tragedy has happened, the urge to find a cause to blame it on is very powerful.
Load More Replies...Well............ there is a slight difference between eating an apple and having an apple injected into your body or blood stream.
everything has a chemical composition. some chemicals are naturally occurring, but in high quantity can be harmful. Like a few found in an apple. I think that's interesting.
So great post. Thanks for this important message. https://stayplaintechnology.com
We are chemicals, water, and hormones, with a mind sitting on top?
antivaxxer idiots would stay away from water if you analysed it to them
I always thought that apples weren't good for people to eat. Apples for Worms and Eve.
The antivax story: there was (just one!) UK physician who posted several articles in the Lancet (those were later revoked due to conflict of interests re insurance claims) on babies developing side effects after vaccines. The truth is - yes, side effects can happen. And they do. But sometimes these side effects actually bring to light an existing problem, like not properly functional immune system. So these side effects can actually help improve someone's life in a long run.
HAHAHAHAHA!! SOMETIMES I HAVE TO LAUGH AT PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR PAY SCALE THINKING THEY KNOW SCIENCE.
It's a shame that Bored Panda doesn't check before they post things though because this one is fake. Google 'chemical composition of apple' and you'll see.
Load More Replies...Only because he believed the post. Like you did. Google 'chemical composition of apple'.
Load More Replies...Yep - L I T E R A L L Y every organic thing is made up of chemicals...
anti vaxxers have not seen the damage these diseases can do, they don't know what life was like without vaccines I do, the first ten years of my life there were no vaccines and no antibiotics. I am niney years old and consider myself lucky to be alive.because i lived in isolation an a farm.
Although I love the punch line, when I read the first chemical I though: - Well, I would not want to be drunk. So , what I would have added is some kind of proportion , or amount of each..
The poster forgot the dangerous (2R,3S,4R,5R)-2,3,4,5,6-Pentahydroxyhexanal...
Regardless of anti vaxxers logic...i will choose to follow advice of a pediatrician who has seen babies and children die from those evil apple chemicals!!
Because that list of chemicals in an apple is so fake, you mean?
Load More Replies...I absolutely LOVE this! It is so often that I deal with people who say they don't want "any chemical" things and I try to make them understand that they are not using the words right, reminding them of the one and only chemical formula everybody knows by heart: H2O, water.
If they are combined together in small amounts in an apple they are fine, but I still object to having them in my body in large amounts, which can be toxic. This is like saying I should be fine with sprinkling chlorine over my food because after all it's in table salt.
Isn't it amazing how many people believe that chemical list for apples? They should just google 'chemical composition of apple' to see it's fake.
Load More Replies...This kind of fallacy is exactly why science gets discredited, what does an apple have to do with vaccines? Don't have to be an anti vaxer not to want to eat or otherwise be injected with synthetic chemicals be it of an apple or not. I am pro choice by the way.
You mean you got burned because you believed this list? Just google 'chemical composition of apple' and you'll see this list is fake. Don't feel bad for falling for it.
Load More Replies...So a standard vaccine is composed of an apple. Makes no sense. Give me a break.
The chemical list for an apple is fake. Bored Panda shouldn't have posted this.
Load More Replies...Whoever came us with these chemicals as being the composition of an apple are absolutely INCORRECT! People do your own research! Don't let people call you ignorant and yet they are ignorant for giving false information. I just researched and none of those component chemicals are in an apple!
These days, when there are so many science deniers, it may feel like arguing with them is absolutely pointless. But a 2019 study published in the journal Nature Human Behavior showed that it’s in fact worth arguing with them.
Philipp Schmid and Cornelia Betsch of the University of Erfurt in Germany conducted six experiments with 1,773 subjects. They assessed “how to mitigate the influence of a denier on the audience.”
The results showed that “not responding to science deniers has a negative effect on attitudes towards behaviors favored by science (for example, vaccination) and intentions to perform these behaviors.”
Alan Turing was praised for what he has done during war time and condemned for whom he loved. That's the great tragedy of his life.
Dear God-botherers. If god drowned everyone except one family on the planet because they were evil then he believed that unborn children could be evil (not to mention all the born children). You anti-abortion types must really hate god for that.
Facing deniers can be treated as a concerned and important effort to fight misinformation. The authors of the study suggest that “not turning up to the discussion at all seems to result in the worst effect.”
Meanwhile, showing up on an acquaintance's Facebook post, even if you think it's pointless, will surely do some good.
Interestingly, the authors claim that science deniers use the same rhetoric across domains. It means that “uncovering their rhetorical techniques is an effective and economic addition to the advocates’ toolbox.”
Never ending story of idiots spreading a disease because they do not believe in science.
I can't believe that the idiot had 1.8k up-votes. Yowsers, so many dafties.
Lol. How dare you debunk the nonsense I'm spewing on the internet with science? Don't you ever do that again!!!!
Even if you'd put the entire flat-earth movement in a spaceship and circle the earth in any way they want, they'd be telling you that it's a trick with mirrors and projectors. But at least they are harmless and don't hurt other people with their nonsense.
hahahaha I love it when people who have no flippin' idea who they are talking to make an a*s out of themselves. I always look up whoever I am in a discussion/argument/debate with before I make a comment that I might regret later. You never know if someone's background qualifies them to be right or not.
History is there to teach the future lessons. But of course, you do need some kind of education to be able to understand those lessons.
Do people forget that literally everything is made up of chemicals...?
Someone should probably tell them that Darwin believed in God and evolution simultaneously throughout most of his research years.
More and more European countries make vaccinating mandatory. Unvaccinated children are banned from schools in those countries and parents can be forced to have their children vaccinated. And rightly so. Screw your "strong convictions" and "religious beliefs", our national health is endangered because of your b******t and we are getting tired of your stupidity.
It's so sad to see one thinks that if their kids are momentarily healthy without vaccination, that's proof that this state will keep up indefinitely. It most likely won't. It would be funny to see their faces when they realize their mistakes, but it won't, because it would be to the expense of the child who'd deserve better.
Tell that to the families of women who died from cervical cancer. Including a 15 year old girl in the UK a few years ago. Plus it’s been proven that men can be affected by HPV as well so some are campaigning for teenage boys to have the vaccine too. Oh and it might not cause cancer, but more often genital warts and other infections. Who would want to be protected from getting genital warts right?! Morons...
Perhaps we need to write a law that hospitals have to check everyone's social media before treating them. "Sorry dude, you doubt our medical knowledge and you have solid evidence that our cures do not work, so we are not even going to try." or "Yes ma'am, Billy could be saved by a simple vaccination, but as you have repeatedly stated on Facebook: No one is going to poison your kid with vaccines. So take him home and enjoy your last 5 days with him." Wonder what the reactions would be?
I thought she was impressive just from what she's said. I didn't know her background. Wow! As a white boomer male, I would like Ted Cruz to stuff his mouth full of the money he gets from the NRA and shut up.
And it's not an easy death, it's painful and scary and preventable.
Seems that the US government has a particular talent of appointing the most stupid people in various positions.
Who cares if he qualifies as a "scientist"? He's a science educator, and a damn good one at that. I *am* a scientist and I greatly respect his work.
Sorry, but this not accurate. You also need to include the electricity that's needed to power the devices that people use to watch Netflix and the electricity that's needed to power the switches, modems and routers that are needed to get the signal from the server to the viewers. So yeah, the massive use of electricity does have an impact on emisions unless you decide to completely switch to renewable and sustainable energy sources like solar panels, wind turbines, and hydro electricity and abandon coal and nuclear powerplants.
Sorry to say so but I noticed that Conservatives indeed seem to have some competition going on who can post the most stupid c**p on the internet.
hot air. clearly he's never bothered to look at a single peer reviewed journal, or any of the thousands of videos, articles, interviews, and other material from scientists saying what a problem climate change is and how long we've known about it.
.......................I couldn't really be bothered to read the whole this but sounds like a great come back ................................
I had to stop reading these. People who embrace ignorance and stupidity are scarier than Freddie Kruger.
Yep. Even if Freddy were real, he'd still be less dangerous. He's killed far less people than willful ignorance has.
Load More Replies...Are these science deniers really stupid or are they trolls trying to make a joke? I always thought no one can be that stupid.
Same but there are some scary as levels of stupid and denial out there. Intelligence is knowing enough to know that you dont know everything. So many people lack that insight its disheartening for our future as a species
Load More Replies...I was caught spreading unproven facts (aka BS) on several occasions during my lifetime. It was really embarrassing bacause I considered myself an intelligent human being. Hopefully, these people learned something like I had learned, and will know better.
At least you can admit to being wrong and have made the choice to be educated. Well done you :)
Load More Replies...I really wish people who love to post stupid s**t would research what they are posting for the validity of the topic. So many times I see something and know instantly that something is amiss and it takes me just a few minutes to find the truth behind the post. No I don't use snopes but I use credible sources and post the websites to that person's post to let them know just how f*****g dumb they are to post stupid s**t. It really scares me that people are that gullible and naive.
The dihydrogen monoxide gullibility "test" comes to mind. When asked if it should be banned from food many people said yes becsuse it sounded scary to them, not realising what it actually was.
Load More Replies...So many idiots, too much of the time. I've just recently educated myself as to what QAnon is. It seems like there are even more of them than there are Flat Earthers! It's terrifying that we are surrounded by imbeciles. There's a good chance that one of them will be elected to Congress. God help us survive the teaming morons who inhabit our society.
i gotta remember some of these for the karrens out there like no. 14's NASA called they can see your stupidity from space
Also: 'Fat acceptance! Being obese is healthy! If you think obesity is unhealthy you're fat-phobic!' FALSE!! The term phobia specifically means a fear which is irrational. It's not irrational to fear obesity when the WHO, The UK Nat.'l Health Service, The US CDC, The US NIH, The Am. Heart Association, Cancer Research UK and The Am. Cancer Society have all issued official declarations that obesity is extremely dangerous to your health. In what way is the fear of dire health consequences irrational? Since that fear is not irrational, how could it properly be considered a phobia? Yes, call out the anti-science right who denies evolution and climate change. Call out the anti-science left on 'fat-acceptance' - esp. when a non-scientist-non-physician like Kelli Jean Drinkwater preaches it on the Ted stage. 'Enough With The Fear of Fat' she calls her Ted Talk. Wrong! People should be scared shitless of their obesity! It literally is as serious as a heart attack, and it literally is a matter of grave consequences.
Watch me explode over anti-vaxxers. I was born in 1950, so I was a little kid before many vaccines were available. I had chickenpox at age 5, measles (rubeola) at age 7, mumps age 11, rubella age 13. My dad took us to get our polio sugar cubes when I was six. He made up open our mouths to show him we swallowed it, all of it. But then, he had a cousin who had polio. I have retina scarring and a dimple on my cornea from the measles. My temp went over 105F 3 times, mom said they packed me in alcohol and ice water each time. I only remember twice. Then I spent 6-8 weeks in a darkened room, no TV, no books as they tried to limit the damage to my eyes. It is effing child abuse to not get your children vaccinated.
I have saved myself from looking like some of these people by the simple expedient of Googling the person I am talking to. It gives me the time and knowledge to realize that maybe I am the one who should keep her mouth closed and her ears open. If the other poster seems to be the idiot, I save time--and myself from unneeded stress-- by accessing the relevant FB. That usually tells me all that I need to know, like when it just isn't worth the bother, and I can only pray that person is felled by a falling piano before causing more harm.
To Daria: It is a true sign of intellectual growth and maturity to examine one’s prejudices frequently and reevaluate. That’s one of the reasons science is so important. It constantly looks at the data and confirms or changes . The best way to learn. Thanks for your note!
in Buddhist teaching there are 3 root's of evil things in this world. Greed, Hatred, Stupidity. back when I'm still a student, i always asking the teach why stupidity is one of it. now, i know why
Frightening... We have seen worldwide "wars" between things ... brands, societal/economical systems (and we awarded the winner, based on that the opponent collapsed earlier, not based on anything justifying to not expect the winner to collapse, too), will the next battle be between facts and stupidity? Idiocracy. Will come true.
Did *no one* pay attention in school? So many of these things were covered and explained by the time I was 15-16... Basic stuff... Educated in America, so you can't say it's that...
There is a huge anti-intellectual movement that's been going on for decades. They are the people who benefit from people not knowing the truth. They seek to undermine people's trust in "the authority" - scientists, academics, etc. Best example is the slogan of one of their TV networks - "We report, you decide." That may sound innocuous, but what they are really saying is, don't trust the expert's assessment, just believe what you want to believe.
Load More Replies...Why do those who work with factual information even bother trying to talk to dumb people? It's not like they can (or will) digest what's being said, and they certainly have proven that they abhor research and that the extent of their so-called knowledge is based on soundbites and headlines from dubious sources. Maybe scientific advancement has made this generation far too comfortable. Maybe they've concluded with their non-empirical brain cells that since they don't 'see' the problems anymore, there's no need for any more scientifically based solutions.
I think they hope anyone reading the posts/thread also reads their rebuttal and pauses to think.
Load More Replies...*sirens* "We have severe burns on many people, science doubters we need to give all of them a sense of logic and common sense before treating the burn!"
I think we need to stop "shutting down" people and act like decent human beings. Our society has become so negative and ugly , and there is a major superiority complex going around. Be nice to each other people. Who cares if you're wrong or somebody else is. Keyboard hazing has got to go
I had to stop reading these. People who embrace ignorance and stupidity are scarier than Freddie Kruger.
Yep. Even if Freddy were real, he'd still be less dangerous. He's killed far less people than willful ignorance has.
Load More Replies...Are these science deniers really stupid or are they trolls trying to make a joke? I always thought no one can be that stupid.
Same but there are some scary as levels of stupid and denial out there. Intelligence is knowing enough to know that you dont know everything. So many people lack that insight its disheartening for our future as a species
Load More Replies...I was caught spreading unproven facts (aka BS) on several occasions during my lifetime. It was really embarrassing bacause I considered myself an intelligent human being. Hopefully, these people learned something like I had learned, and will know better.
At least you can admit to being wrong and have made the choice to be educated. Well done you :)
Load More Replies...I really wish people who love to post stupid s**t would research what they are posting for the validity of the topic. So many times I see something and know instantly that something is amiss and it takes me just a few minutes to find the truth behind the post. No I don't use snopes but I use credible sources and post the websites to that person's post to let them know just how f*****g dumb they are to post stupid s**t. It really scares me that people are that gullible and naive.
The dihydrogen monoxide gullibility "test" comes to mind. When asked if it should be banned from food many people said yes becsuse it sounded scary to them, not realising what it actually was.
Load More Replies...So many idiots, too much of the time. I've just recently educated myself as to what QAnon is. It seems like there are even more of them than there are Flat Earthers! It's terrifying that we are surrounded by imbeciles. There's a good chance that one of them will be elected to Congress. God help us survive the teaming morons who inhabit our society.
i gotta remember some of these for the karrens out there like no. 14's NASA called they can see your stupidity from space
Also: 'Fat acceptance! Being obese is healthy! If you think obesity is unhealthy you're fat-phobic!' FALSE!! The term phobia specifically means a fear which is irrational. It's not irrational to fear obesity when the WHO, The UK Nat.'l Health Service, The US CDC, The US NIH, The Am. Heart Association, Cancer Research UK and The Am. Cancer Society have all issued official declarations that obesity is extremely dangerous to your health. In what way is the fear of dire health consequences irrational? Since that fear is not irrational, how could it properly be considered a phobia? Yes, call out the anti-science right who denies evolution and climate change. Call out the anti-science left on 'fat-acceptance' - esp. when a non-scientist-non-physician like Kelli Jean Drinkwater preaches it on the Ted stage. 'Enough With The Fear of Fat' she calls her Ted Talk. Wrong! People should be scared shitless of their obesity! It literally is as serious as a heart attack, and it literally is a matter of grave consequences.
Watch me explode over anti-vaxxers. I was born in 1950, so I was a little kid before many vaccines were available. I had chickenpox at age 5, measles (rubeola) at age 7, mumps age 11, rubella age 13. My dad took us to get our polio sugar cubes when I was six. He made up open our mouths to show him we swallowed it, all of it. But then, he had a cousin who had polio. I have retina scarring and a dimple on my cornea from the measles. My temp went over 105F 3 times, mom said they packed me in alcohol and ice water each time. I only remember twice. Then I spent 6-8 weeks in a darkened room, no TV, no books as they tried to limit the damage to my eyes. It is effing child abuse to not get your children vaccinated.
I have saved myself from looking like some of these people by the simple expedient of Googling the person I am talking to. It gives me the time and knowledge to realize that maybe I am the one who should keep her mouth closed and her ears open. If the other poster seems to be the idiot, I save time--and myself from unneeded stress-- by accessing the relevant FB. That usually tells me all that I need to know, like when it just isn't worth the bother, and I can only pray that person is felled by a falling piano before causing more harm.
To Daria: It is a true sign of intellectual growth and maturity to examine one’s prejudices frequently and reevaluate. That’s one of the reasons science is so important. It constantly looks at the data and confirms or changes . The best way to learn. Thanks for your note!
in Buddhist teaching there are 3 root's of evil things in this world. Greed, Hatred, Stupidity. back when I'm still a student, i always asking the teach why stupidity is one of it. now, i know why
Frightening... We have seen worldwide "wars" between things ... brands, societal/economical systems (and we awarded the winner, based on that the opponent collapsed earlier, not based on anything justifying to not expect the winner to collapse, too), will the next battle be between facts and stupidity? Idiocracy. Will come true.
Did *no one* pay attention in school? So many of these things were covered and explained by the time I was 15-16... Basic stuff... Educated in America, so you can't say it's that...
There is a huge anti-intellectual movement that's been going on for decades. They are the people who benefit from people not knowing the truth. They seek to undermine people's trust in "the authority" - scientists, academics, etc. Best example is the slogan of one of their TV networks - "We report, you decide." That may sound innocuous, but what they are really saying is, don't trust the expert's assessment, just believe what you want to believe.
Load More Replies...Why do those who work with factual information even bother trying to talk to dumb people? It's not like they can (or will) digest what's being said, and they certainly have proven that they abhor research and that the extent of their so-called knowledge is based on soundbites and headlines from dubious sources. Maybe scientific advancement has made this generation far too comfortable. Maybe they've concluded with their non-empirical brain cells that since they don't 'see' the problems anymore, there's no need for any more scientifically based solutions.
I think they hope anyone reading the posts/thread also reads their rebuttal and pauses to think.
Load More Replies...*sirens* "We have severe burns on many people, science doubters we need to give all of them a sense of logic and common sense before treating the burn!"
I think we need to stop "shutting down" people and act like decent human beings. Our society has become so negative and ugly , and there is a major superiority complex going around. Be nice to each other people. Who cares if you're wrong or somebody else is. Keyboard hazing has got to go