Woman Asks Why A Guy She Turned Down Didn’t Try Harder, Gets The Perfect Response
A guy invites a girl on a date, tries all of his best moves, but she says no. A guy has to move on. Otherwise, it’s harassment. Unless it isn’t? Recently, a girl surprised the internet when she posted a stupid question on Quora, asking why her date wasn’t a mind reader and didn’t pursue her after a negative answer about a first date.
She wrote, “A guy asked me out today, and I told him “no,” but I wanted him to try harder. Why didn’t he try again?” Naturally, a question like this deserves something more than a simple answer, but a comeback that’s written in the same language. Luckily, Ron Rule typed a response the inquirer should’ve understood. Scroll down to check out what he wrote!
After this word exchange the relationship advice and dumbest questions to ask poured like rain, demasking the silly games girls try to play with unsuspecting guys sometimes.
Someone surprised Quora with a strange question
Luckily, this guy responded with an example the inquirer had to understand
Amused by the exchange, people started sharing their own experiences
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Share on FacebookI think any guy who goes out with a girl who plays these kinds of games is in for a rough time. No one is worth that kind of crazy.
Guys play games too. It's called being passive aggressive. I wish everyone would just say what they mean.
The terrible, dangerous idea that a guy should try harder when a woman says no is the very worst thing that has come out of the vast majority of romantic movies. Kudos to the guy for not insisting. I can't imagine trying to start any sort of relationship with someone who can't seem to communicate appropriately.
Thank you Laury for saying this so clearly. It has bugged me for a long time, but I had trouble putting it into words.
Load More Replies...He didn´t bc he didn´t want to be accused for harassment. Hate those games. I you mean no, say no. If you mean yes, then say yes!
agree with you.... you can see all those who write something like that has been downvoted.
Load More Replies...I don't like games. If I like a guy, I tell him. Have no bad experience with that. I also especially love honesty in relationships, so why start with a lie ;) ?
I get hated for my honesty and intolerance of lies and BS answers. :(
Load More Replies...YES! and they let hollywood tell them what 'love' means and represents. so stupid
Load More Replies...Because 'no' is 'no'. If he tries again, he automatically becomes a machista, patriarchy oppressor and a women hater. That's what press and tv says. So you were lucky that he dared to ask once.
Your first 4 words were exact, but it went downhill from there.
Load More Replies...I wanted to say something, but I'm glad everyone already said what was needed to be said. These are no "games", that is stupidity that endangers the rest of us who don't want to "play". That guy was the smart and mature one here and I wish him to find someone nice he truly deserves.
"Hard to get" is the dumbest game women play with men. I don't know where it originated, some time last century, but I believe that divorce rates and domestic abuse rates directly correlate to partners refusing to tell each other the truth the first time. If people won't tell each other what they are thinking, they won't get along. My grandparents were always strictly honest with each other. They were married for 60 years and never had a fight.
Agree, but it's a dumb game in general. There are enough men who play that with women, too... and it's always a red flag.
Load More Replies...My husband told me on a Friday evening it was over, he wanted a divorce, and he wasn't going to change his mind, so don't try. I spent the weekend packing our stuff. The baby and I left on Tuesday to move back to the city (we lived in a horrible, crappy town, or else I would have made him leave). He was crestfallen as I visited him at work to give him my apartment key. Why wasn't I crying? Why wasn't I begging him to take me back? I pointed out that he'd clearly stated his stance. I was respecting his wishes and avoiding a pointless argument. 20 years later, and he's still a passive aggressive little twerp.
Guys: Always take No for an answer. Any girl who thinks it's still the 1950s is going to be a complete pain in the a**, anyway, so good riddance! You'll want a partner who pulls her weight, not some gorram princess.
They want the perks of the 1950s, but refuse the responsibilities of the 1950s.
Load More Replies...It's Romantic Comedies that puts that stupid idea in women's head. People talk about porn putting unrealistic and unhealthy ideas about sex in the male adolescent brain (which I can agree to an extent). No one ever talks about RomComs tainting your idea of how a relationship works. If you push someone away, they will go away. They won't show up with roses and a limo, or offer you a kingdom, or befriend yours family to get the key to your heart. They will leave, and they should they aren't wrong, you shouldn't be with someone who tests you and won't pull their weight. It's unhealthy life is hard enough without having a partner who MAKES YOUR LOFE WORSE. Rant over... TL;DR don't be a d**k, you will end up alone
Up voted for the message, but wow, try taking a little more care in writing that message next time.
Load More Replies...As a Female these types of girls p**s me off. Games are for CHILDREN. If you're that attention starved you little narcissist go get a dog. You don't play with another persons emotions like that. Stop giving us bad reps >..<
A person like this would probably be a s****y dog parent.
Load More Replies...Never play games with a person always be up front and be honest with your feelings on what you want otherwise it does not turn out well for either person. No relationship will survive with games, secrets and tricks. I have been married 8 years and we have been through a lot and have learned the hard way that communication and honesty is key.
Well, I guess on the plus side - this guy dodged a bullet. I certainly wouldn't want to be involved with someone as petty and sociopathic.
That's not sociopathy. A sociopath would be more likely to have been blunt than to state the exact opposite of what they want.
Load More Replies...This has its roots in the antiquated way the women and men my age (53) and earlier were taught to behave in relationships. The whole "you've got to make a man work for it" thinking. There are so many things WRONG with it, I scarcely know where to begin! I remember when I was in high school, I was dating a young man the same age as I. We had been friends first, then dated for a bit. I called his house one time and asked to talk to him and his mother absolutely HATED me ever after! Because!! "Nice young ladies dont call boys on the phone!" LOL I have since grown up (I think) and raised 3 children, who are now adults. I felt it was VERY important to impart THIS bit of knowledge about relationships. Men, and women, it seems, are always on guard not to seem like they are "kissing a*s", or that they value their partner more than they are valued. Simply put...always on guard not to be taken advantage of. I told my kids, dont ever be afraid to tell someone how much you love them, or be...
I`m in my 60s and my sisters are quite a bit older. We were not taught to be submisive. Game playing and manipulation was a big no no in our family, supported by both parents who were born 1915 . I can`t even imagine my aunts ever behaving this way. Very straight forward do not take c**p kind of people. I guess this was unusual. I was taught to not let people treat mte as an inferior, that you do not have to be nasty to do it. Just strong and commited. I get very tired of people whining and being nasty about unequality. It exists, work to fix it in a firm but positive way. And not all men are out to get you.
Load More Replies...I have the opposite - my bf does this to me all the time, like I MUST read his mind to know what he really wants. He's an introvert and tends to keep his opinion to himself which makes things worse. It just pisses me off sometimes... why can't people be more direct?
Maybe the relationship isn't all that healthy for you if he's such a lousy communicator. Also: Introvert does not mean "s****y communicator".
Load More Replies...I've never understood why people play mind games. I say what I mean. I will be tactful and loving, but my husband knows what I'm thinking. I don't have the patience for anyone who would rather have me 'guess' what they want. If you don't care enough to be clear about your wants, needs and expectations, I don't care either. So, if you tell me something, I will take you at your word.
If you don't mean "No", don't say it. First, you risk the person you say it to believing you. Second, if they don't believe you, they won't when you do mean it. Communicate honestly.
Kudos to the men who don't fight for women who say "We're over, I don't want to be with you" or "No" to a date. They think the women are rational adults who mean what they say and say what they mean. What a rotten thing to do, right? *SMH*
Women like these perpetuate the weak-woman stereotype. Society cannot remain truly functional with 50% of its members feeling disempowered. Say 'No' if you mean 'No'. Dont namby pamby your way through life.
honestly, I blame "romantic" movies. Look how many movies promote just exact same behavior: "guy courts girl, girls says no like 100 times, but you know, at the end, they will be together, because, well... that's 'romantic'"... in the movies. One famous example "Notebook" but there are many many more. So so many movies where guy pushes and pushes the girl and we, like, "know" she loves him but keeps saying 'no' because, well, she is playing hard to get or something like that... I am not saying that's ok but Hollywood teaches us it's cute, so no wonder this happens. When you realize how many movies work in that way and we consider it 'normal' this kind of behavior is not that unexpected.
Let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no! And if you feel like you NEED to do this to other people, perhaps you should go see a therapist, because getting your ego stroked this way is messed up.
It's learned behaviour. It comes from the same place where guys think "no" means "yes". The other side of the coin is some women are conditioned to play this stupid dance. 🙄
They're conditioned by the whole "don't be easy" and "don't be a s**t" b******t.
Load More Replies...People like her want it both ways. When playing this game causes trouble, they'll say that they were "joking" and you should've known that, so it's your fault.
Women like this give the rest of us a bad rap. Act like a f*****g grown-up, you stupid cow. We have been fighting FOR YEARS for men to understand that "NO means NO' and then some dumb bitches like you want to play these games. Stay out of the dating pool until you learn how to swim. You make me sick.
I think people skip way ahead. Best way to approach a relationship is to start (dare I say it?) the old traditional way. If you simply date then go back to yo place and her to hers guess what? Your gonna appreciate the times you are together more. You won’t bond as quickly so if one decides this ain’t for me you won’t be as hurt. You both will do more sweet things for each other. Ya gotta date and flirt even after marriage in my opinion. It keeps your love very much alive. Or you could just stay with that person, sex it up and then wonder what happened later on down the road. I will add it is possible to move a little more quicker if you just know in your heart that that person is very much the one. But for at least a month if ya can manage. Enjoy the date nights. It builds trust, and a much stronger bond in the long run. Plus when the time comes you do love with that person you both will know each other more so than if ya just jumped the rope too soon. As for the main topic here,
So you meant "Yes"? I don't understand women who play games. Answer the f*****g question honestly! Do you realise the amount of courage it must take for him to approach you in the first place. Needy b***h!
That is the kind of person that messes with men brains so that they don't understand no
Was with a woman for 6 months she said "we need to see other people" I said "great idea its been fun"walked away; every time I saw her after that if looks could kill I would be mortally wounded.
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Here is why he did not try harder. You see, these days, men are scared to death to be falsely accused of stalking. And yes, some even claim stalking if a guy simply asks them out, or says "you look nice today". This is the new millennial mentality, and this is quite sad. It has become quite a big deal, even though what most women claim and what actually happens differs. Chances are each and every man alive has been accused of this at one time in their lives. I just got accused of it for adding a friend suggestion on facebook. It just happens. We watch movies just like everyone else and we think that if we try that, it will work. WRONG! Which brings me to my next point. This is why for me, I have chosen to remain single until I die. This is the only way to ensure my safety and sanity. Being accused of stalking someone is gut wrenching, it makes a man feel like a complete piece of s**t, and it is thrown around like it is some kind of end all be all.
Kind of related. I recently had two female friends say they were uncomfortable with my advances. Which was news to me because (a) I live a continent away and only talk with them on Facebook, (b) I came out as queer and trans and wasn't exactly shy about this online, and would prefer to date a guy at the moment, and (c) both had been telling me about how they were feeling low and lonely and I just tried to offer some help and support by talking to them and checking in on them to let them know there was someone out there being a friend. It made me a bit depressed, but, mostly, I was just confused.
Because "no means no". Anything else would be sexual harrassment or stalking.
Girls: Men never take no for an answer. They keep asking and sometimes follow you or worse. Man: *Takes no for an answer* Girl: Why did you take no as an answer?
What do these women want? They don't know....When do they want it? Right Fricking Now
Because "being in a relationship is not a sport". Makes sense?
A guy asked me out today and I told him "no", but he tried harder so now I'm suing him for sexual harrassment.
this is why I will never date western women and I refused to get married. I don't even date or have sex with western no more, it's not worth the trouble nor risks. If the woman have not been in the country 1 year or less and doesn't act a western woman, then I'll talk to her.
Very strange that no-one’s figures out why she said “no,” based on her expectations- not saying society isn’t rapidly changing but in her case she was trying to protect her reputation and not appear “easy.” Any questions?
I forgot that we live in a society where nobody can be held responsible for their own actions...
Load More Replies...I have no more time for games. I've had my heart shredded many times over various ways women try to test my commitment and I'm left what I was worth them and if a good relation is equal then why was I the only one trying?
This c**p is why that woman is alone and will die alone. If you want to p**s about and treat men like playthings, you don't deserve a relationship.
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I like the analogy about saying you wanted pizza, when you really wanted steak, so why did she bring you pizza? Expecting someone else to read your mind is a fool's errand. Say exactly what you want (or don't want) clearly.
How do you even do such stupidity? Here we r trying to have equal rights nd understanding for everyone. And people like u think u are some kind of special that would make everyone go crazy after u, even after u said no. Guess wht lady u don't live in fairy tale, grow up. Act like a mature. Learn to communicate what do u actually want.
If someone plays mind games it’s because they are lacking that date life. The supposed to be first part of a relationship. If ya done moved in with each other it’s gonna feel like there was nothing special to get you there. Just a simple open the door come on in.
Why are you repeatedly posting rants against people for not dating enough for your "old traditional way"? If people want to have sex on day one, that's their choice. Not yours.
Load More Replies...since only looking at a girls without her consent is now sexual assault if she feels uncomfortable... what else can men do? We live in a total feministan.
I stare at the ceiling a lot lol. Avoiding women is a full time job
Load More Replies...I mean if u do the opposite, then people would say why you do stuff against her will or why you don't let her make decisions you sexism dictator
Luckily this girl isn't the standard for women. She's a bit of a fool. Most women won't act like this.
Load More Replies...Makes me think back to a BF in highschool. "Want to go out this weekendm?" No. "Next weekend ?" No. "Within the next month?" Not really. Two weeks later him: we haven't gone out in forever. Why haven't you asked me out? Uck Foff with that s**t
My answer to her "why?": Because he saw her post and figured that he dodged a bullet
Works both ways. When I was dating, years ago, I'd ask if a guy would like to meet just for coffee, nothing involved beyond that. I took it seriously if he'd say no, and I'd never ask again (the whopping total 3 men I asked over the years all said no. I'm not a beautiful woman by any means, just saying, and they wanted looks). One man DID get all in my face about not "pursuing" him strongly enough, but once I heard No, that was it, period. Now I won't date, not as a septuagenarian. Far too much hassle for nothing.
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Men can't win. If these men had tried harder they would probably have been lambasted for having male "entitlement",
Men can't win. If these men had "tried harder" they would probably have been castigated for their "male entitlement",
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lol and be part of the #metoo movement? hell no, if a chick says no; I move on, plain and simple.
Wait wait, with a crazy #metoo movement going on and alllll these women whining and complaining about men not understanding the meaning of NO, you now want us to ignore NO and risk harassing you and joining the #metoo movement? that's dense.
Are we sure the person who asked the question wasn't simply trolling? To me it sounds less like the thought process of a real girl--even the dysfunctional, narcissistic kind--than like a sarcastic stalker venting about how his targets won't confess they are playing hard to get.
Are we sure the person who asked the question wasn't simply trolling?
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Tries all of his best moves...this is too much LIKE a game. Asking for a partner is a dance. If you do it all at once and get bored this means you lack object constancy. Where Narcissism and manipulation come from, verbal abuse and many other things that do not retain her value. And you FORCE us to prove we aren’t playing games? You force us to look like gold diggers. It is OUR VALUE we want preserved...so we can bring you in at that same rate.
When women think about a man penetrating her that PUSH is defined and yearned for longterm by the initial lengths he goes vs what he will yield to for her honor. I’m the value he retains for her she feels protectioned, comforted, and knows she is unique. It saves a lot of later questions and tests if you DO QUE IN SO HER BODY CRAVES YOU WITHOUT SHAME. MOST WOKEN WILL NOT TELL YOU THIS. That yielding coupled by your strength and restraint is what we think about when we want you. If you make it about getting your own rejection soothes or you don’t stay constant then your LITERAL PUSH AND THAT BOUNDARY GOES NUMB. THE GAME IS MAKING MEN’S INSTINCTS AN INDECENT THING BY MIXING UP MATING DANCES WITH SEX, VERBAL ABUSES INTO HER BODY, AND THINKING ITS ALL RIGHT AND LEFT. KNEWS FLASH....WOMEN ARE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. That initial dance is everything to her in how she sees what you are capable of. Do not make YEARNING AND DREAMING SHE NEEDS TIME TO DO INTO YOUR INCONSISTENT RESENTMENT.
No means no for physical boundaries/space BREECHED, not the dance. Why are you assuming, labeling, mocking the natural selections, submissions, protections of women? Our body signals PENETRATION INTENSITY BY RECALL OF THE INITIAL PURSUIT, ITS STRENGTH, PERSISTENCE, THAT FEELING. Men=respect fueled, women=value preserved. NATURAL SELECTION. SUSTAINED FORTITUDE FOR HER/YIELD TO HER CUES. LONGTERM resiliency, stamina, irresistability. Do you give up on treasure? The minute you do, you affect her LESS. She thinks is it JUST HER specifically, or? IS IT HER YOU WANT REGARDLESS OF OBSTACLE/ANTICIPATION. ANIMALS have mating calls and feats they try MANY TIMES. It shows RISK BY HIM, yet you call this TESTING? You want a cheap easy YES, next you’ll TREAT HER JUST LIKE THIS. Women have intuition. Saying no NOW doesn’t always mean NO forever, SHOW ME A DISPLAY, I’LL YEARN, PROMPT, DREAM. Take away the reference for women’s sexual enjoyment/decency and male instincts are marked INDECENT GAME.
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Today, if guys try too hard, they get accused of sexual assault. You ladies are going to be so sad when men ditch you for sex robots.
She wasn't worth having for the simple reason that in her perverse mind-game to give herself personal validation, she completely failed to consider his feelings. Maybe it had taken him a great deal of effort to pluck up courage to ask her out, maybe her rejection was a heavy blow. I've had relationships in the past where the girl played little games to test the strength of my feelings for them, if you don't give the answer they expect you don't love them? Bollocks. Trust and love are earned, so earn them instead of playing deceitful little games.
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Lol. While the responses were to be expected, as a girl I can actually understand her. People don't always say what they think - this is actually true for both genders. Sometimes when humans say "yeah I'm fine" they actually really, REALLY want you to disregard that, give them a huge hug, warm blanket, big cup of hot cocoa and just cry with them over whatever sh** happened. Sometimes when people say "yes" they only say it out of feeling like they have to be nice/owe something in return...I've done that before, it didn't end well. Sometimes when people say "no", they're aching inside for you to convince them otherwise, to grab them by the shoulder, yell in their faces from the depth of your heart, shred their inconfident scared shell with your confidence and bring them out into the light and happiness. Of course, sometimes a "no" is just a "no" and further pushing would simply hurt both parties in the end.
Moral of the story? I don't know, honestly. Perhaps the type of person that you'd want to see by your side til your dying day would be able to understand you and see past what you said and into what you meant. Or perhaps not and you missed your chance. Life is complicated sometimes.
Load More Replies...I absolutely hate games like this. Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no. End of discussion.
My ex said to me I don’t want to be with you anymore and ask is this what u really want she said yes so started to make arrangements to move out get another place once everything was done and I was pretty much out of the house and moved into my new house he told me I didn’t really want to break up but you ran with it so fast I didn’t know how to stop at my reply to her was at any point in time you could have opened your mouth and talked to me But now her lease is up and you’re going your way and I’m going my way I told her you waited too long to say something so I’m done with you
Women do not play games, little girls do. See the difference?
I dunno... It is either Yes or No. If you want to play games go to a ballpark.
My mom used to ask if we wanted green beans or corn with dinner. We would say green beans. When dinner was ready we had corn on our plates. I asked why she asked what we wanted if she wasn't going to make it. My mom said, "Dr Spock said you should always give children a choice, it's not my fault you picked the wrong one" I didn't realize how funny my mom was until I was much older.
Life advice from a tv huckster of c**p merch. Consider the source, my grandmother used to say.
One time Windows asked me if i was sure that i wanted to Shut Down. I said NO. Windows shut down anyway.
Funny but has nothing to do with her reason for saying no or how society is changing toward equal status for women.
Load More Replies...I don't understand this behavior. Yes, I want someone to fight for me, but I want them to do it because I told them I loved them not because I told them I didn't want them. These games are f*****g stupid and cruel. How are you supposed to know anything. Can't I just have love, please!
An entitled person like this will wreck your head with their neediness. Guy dodged a bullet taking that no as an answer. If you put someone on a pedestal they will forever be looking down on you.
Respect your partner enough to be clear in what you want. No is no and mind games is no wayou to teat someone else care about.
I do agree that it's rather silly to get upset afterwards wondering why they didn't follow; however, it is impressive when people (not just men) can know what they want and put more effort in pursuing it. You don't have to be rude, you don't have to be pushy, but stand your ground. Don't see why a simple "no" will turn someone completely away. My recommendation, after a rejection, take a step back, reconsider the value and try again, differently.
Oh hell yeah! Be honest! Don't dance around the question or say later "I meant yes, really." People, if you cannot say what you feel and mean it so the person opposite you can believe they know what is going on then we are going to stay in this #MeToo soup forever. "say it, mean it, hear it, believe it" end of story, or maybe beginning of......
if you wanted them to try harder then flat out say it, this isn't a movie
So just taking a guess here it is just an opinion, but the mind game is more of trying to satisfy the desire to see the effort, see how much a person means to you. But yes it is very odd and complex to the point it almost never works. Just saying
out on a drive with hubby. he' says do you want me to go left or right. I say right, he goes left. next time he asks I say I don't care. H says ," make a decision.." The the first time He called and asked for a date, I was really, really sick. He didn't call again and it took six months of chasing him before he asked me out again. I asked why he didn't call me back. he said, I thought you were blowing me off. We have been married almost 48 years.
Ok. So she said no but I've learnt that this means I must try harder. A few try harder later, "You're accused of sexual harrassment." Wait I only wanted you. And thought you know... Try harder.
Just understand that everybody's different. What may work for one person may fail for another. One woman likes chocolate, other prefers fruit flavoured candy. One will be honest and sat what she wants, another one will prefer to be chased after. So just follow your heart/brain and respect whatever she says. If she loses you, it's her fault she lied and you deserve someone better anyway. Someone with whom you'll live in a reality and not in an unnecessary drama. Also, one who wants to play needs to understand the rules. Saying "no" is game over. Saying "maybe", or giving an ambiguous answer is what may start the game. But then again, people's feelings are no game.
Load More Replies...Or maybe, just maybe, this post was a "trolling" post? This may not even be a girl...
When you play games like this there are never any winners ! With the way things are today men have to be very careful ..... because odds are stacked against us!
Its been awhile but one rejection was about all my ego could stand.
If you look at a girl without her consent you are a weirdo potencial rapist. If you talk to her without her consent, you suddently become sexual harasser. She can even accuse you of sexual assault based on NOTHING. Basically, men, record EVERYTHING, even your domestic issues. As a man, you have no rights, remember that. This is feministan! you'll have to prove you're innocent no matter what. and socially, you'll be judged guilty no matter what.
In this day and age of accusations of sexual assault, stocking, and other false claims ten years or more after the incident, why would any man continue to talk to a woman who said no? If she said no, then run the other way, never speak to her again, because if she really did mean no and you asked again, then her feminist friends would talk her into charging you with harassment.
When an ugly girl winks at a handsome guy, she is seen as desperate and deluded. Men and women are different but mind games are not exclusive to just women, I have seen plenty of men play the same games, esp when their pride is involved.
Load More Replies...But this wasn't someone she loved. It was a guy asking her out for a first date. If she wanted to say yes, she should have said yes.
Load More Replies...Um, no. Being gay has literally nothing to do with this. It's how you're born.
Load More Replies...I think any guy who goes out with a girl who plays these kinds of games is in for a rough time. No one is worth that kind of crazy.
Guys play games too. It's called being passive aggressive. I wish everyone would just say what they mean.
The terrible, dangerous idea that a guy should try harder when a woman says no is the very worst thing that has come out of the vast majority of romantic movies. Kudos to the guy for not insisting. I can't imagine trying to start any sort of relationship with someone who can't seem to communicate appropriately.
Thank you Laury for saying this so clearly. It has bugged me for a long time, but I had trouble putting it into words.
Load More Replies...He didn´t bc he didn´t want to be accused for harassment. Hate those games. I you mean no, say no. If you mean yes, then say yes!
agree with you.... you can see all those who write something like that has been downvoted.
Load More Replies...I don't like games. If I like a guy, I tell him. Have no bad experience with that. I also especially love honesty in relationships, so why start with a lie ;) ?
I get hated for my honesty and intolerance of lies and BS answers. :(
Load More Replies...YES! and they let hollywood tell them what 'love' means and represents. so stupid
Load More Replies...Because 'no' is 'no'. If he tries again, he automatically becomes a machista, patriarchy oppressor and a women hater. That's what press and tv says. So you were lucky that he dared to ask once.
Your first 4 words were exact, but it went downhill from there.
Load More Replies...I wanted to say something, but I'm glad everyone already said what was needed to be said. These are no "games", that is stupidity that endangers the rest of us who don't want to "play". That guy was the smart and mature one here and I wish him to find someone nice he truly deserves.
"Hard to get" is the dumbest game women play with men. I don't know where it originated, some time last century, but I believe that divorce rates and domestic abuse rates directly correlate to partners refusing to tell each other the truth the first time. If people won't tell each other what they are thinking, they won't get along. My grandparents were always strictly honest with each other. They were married for 60 years and never had a fight.
Agree, but it's a dumb game in general. There are enough men who play that with women, too... and it's always a red flag.
Load More Replies...My husband told me on a Friday evening it was over, he wanted a divorce, and he wasn't going to change his mind, so don't try. I spent the weekend packing our stuff. The baby and I left on Tuesday to move back to the city (we lived in a horrible, crappy town, or else I would have made him leave). He was crestfallen as I visited him at work to give him my apartment key. Why wasn't I crying? Why wasn't I begging him to take me back? I pointed out that he'd clearly stated his stance. I was respecting his wishes and avoiding a pointless argument. 20 years later, and he's still a passive aggressive little twerp.
Guys: Always take No for an answer. Any girl who thinks it's still the 1950s is going to be a complete pain in the a**, anyway, so good riddance! You'll want a partner who pulls her weight, not some gorram princess.
They want the perks of the 1950s, but refuse the responsibilities of the 1950s.
Load More Replies...It's Romantic Comedies that puts that stupid idea in women's head. People talk about porn putting unrealistic and unhealthy ideas about sex in the male adolescent brain (which I can agree to an extent). No one ever talks about RomComs tainting your idea of how a relationship works. If you push someone away, they will go away. They won't show up with roses and a limo, or offer you a kingdom, or befriend yours family to get the key to your heart. They will leave, and they should they aren't wrong, you shouldn't be with someone who tests you and won't pull their weight. It's unhealthy life is hard enough without having a partner who MAKES YOUR LOFE WORSE. Rant over... TL;DR don't be a d**k, you will end up alone
Up voted for the message, but wow, try taking a little more care in writing that message next time.
Load More Replies...As a Female these types of girls p**s me off. Games are for CHILDREN. If you're that attention starved you little narcissist go get a dog. You don't play with another persons emotions like that. Stop giving us bad reps >..<
A person like this would probably be a s****y dog parent.
Load More Replies...Never play games with a person always be up front and be honest with your feelings on what you want otherwise it does not turn out well for either person. No relationship will survive with games, secrets and tricks. I have been married 8 years and we have been through a lot and have learned the hard way that communication and honesty is key.
Well, I guess on the plus side - this guy dodged a bullet. I certainly wouldn't want to be involved with someone as petty and sociopathic.
That's not sociopathy. A sociopath would be more likely to have been blunt than to state the exact opposite of what they want.
Load More Replies...This has its roots in the antiquated way the women and men my age (53) and earlier were taught to behave in relationships. The whole "you've got to make a man work for it" thinking. There are so many things WRONG with it, I scarcely know where to begin! I remember when I was in high school, I was dating a young man the same age as I. We had been friends first, then dated for a bit. I called his house one time and asked to talk to him and his mother absolutely HATED me ever after! Because!! "Nice young ladies dont call boys on the phone!" LOL I have since grown up (I think) and raised 3 children, who are now adults. I felt it was VERY important to impart THIS bit of knowledge about relationships. Men, and women, it seems, are always on guard not to seem like they are "kissing a*s", or that they value their partner more than they are valued. Simply put...always on guard not to be taken advantage of. I told my kids, dont ever be afraid to tell someone how much you love them, or be...
I`m in my 60s and my sisters are quite a bit older. We were not taught to be submisive. Game playing and manipulation was a big no no in our family, supported by both parents who were born 1915 . I can`t even imagine my aunts ever behaving this way. Very straight forward do not take c**p kind of people. I guess this was unusual. I was taught to not let people treat mte as an inferior, that you do not have to be nasty to do it. Just strong and commited. I get very tired of people whining and being nasty about unequality. It exists, work to fix it in a firm but positive way. And not all men are out to get you.
Load More Replies...I have the opposite - my bf does this to me all the time, like I MUST read his mind to know what he really wants. He's an introvert and tends to keep his opinion to himself which makes things worse. It just pisses me off sometimes... why can't people be more direct?
Maybe the relationship isn't all that healthy for you if he's such a lousy communicator. Also: Introvert does not mean "s****y communicator".
Load More Replies...I've never understood why people play mind games. I say what I mean. I will be tactful and loving, but my husband knows what I'm thinking. I don't have the patience for anyone who would rather have me 'guess' what they want. If you don't care enough to be clear about your wants, needs and expectations, I don't care either. So, if you tell me something, I will take you at your word.
If you don't mean "No", don't say it. First, you risk the person you say it to believing you. Second, if they don't believe you, they won't when you do mean it. Communicate honestly.
Kudos to the men who don't fight for women who say "We're over, I don't want to be with you" or "No" to a date. They think the women are rational adults who mean what they say and say what they mean. What a rotten thing to do, right? *SMH*
Women like these perpetuate the weak-woman stereotype. Society cannot remain truly functional with 50% of its members feeling disempowered. Say 'No' if you mean 'No'. Dont namby pamby your way through life.
honestly, I blame "romantic" movies. Look how many movies promote just exact same behavior: "guy courts girl, girls says no like 100 times, but you know, at the end, they will be together, because, well... that's 'romantic'"... in the movies. One famous example "Notebook" but there are many many more. So so many movies where guy pushes and pushes the girl and we, like, "know" she loves him but keeps saying 'no' because, well, she is playing hard to get or something like that... I am not saying that's ok but Hollywood teaches us it's cute, so no wonder this happens. When you realize how many movies work in that way and we consider it 'normal' this kind of behavior is not that unexpected.
Let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no! And if you feel like you NEED to do this to other people, perhaps you should go see a therapist, because getting your ego stroked this way is messed up.
It's learned behaviour. It comes from the same place where guys think "no" means "yes". The other side of the coin is some women are conditioned to play this stupid dance. 🙄
They're conditioned by the whole "don't be easy" and "don't be a s**t" b******t.
Load More Replies...People like her want it both ways. When playing this game causes trouble, they'll say that they were "joking" and you should've known that, so it's your fault.
Women like this give the rest of us a bad rap. Act like a f*****g grown-up, you stupid cow. We have been fighting FOR YEARS for men to understand that "NO means NO' and then some dumb bitches like you want to play these games. Stay out of the dating pool until you learn how to swim. You make me sick.
I think people skip way ahead. Best way to approach a relationship is to start (dare I say it?) the old traditional way. If you simply date then go back to yo place and her to hers guess what? Your gonna appreciate the times you are together more. You won’t bond as quickly so if one decides this ain’t for me you won’t be as hurt. You both will do more sweet things for each other. Ya gotta date and flirt even after marriage in my opinion. It keeps your love very much alive. Or you could just stay with that person, sex it up and then wonder what happened later on down the road. I will add it is possible to move a little more quicker if you just know in your heart that that person is very much the one. But for at least a month if ya can manage. Enjoy the date nights. It builds trust, and a much stronger bond in the long run. Plus when the time comes you do love with that person you both will know each other more so than if ya just jumped the rope too soon. As for the main topic here,
So you meant "Yes"? I don't understand women who play games. Answer the f*****g question honestly! Do you realise the amount of courage it must take for him to approach you in the first place. Needy b***h!
That is the kind of person that messes with men brains so that they don't understand no
Was with a woman for 6 months she said "we need to see other people" I said "great idea its been fun"walked away; every time I saw her after that if looks could kill I would be mortally wounded.
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Here is why he did not try harder. You see, these days, men are scared to death to be falsely accused of stalking. And yes, some even claim stalking if a guy simply asks them out, or says "you look nice today". This is the new millennial mentality, and this is quite sad. It has become quite a big deal, even though what most women claim and what actually happens differs. Chances are each and every man alive has been accused of this at one time in their lives. I just got accused of it for adding a friend suggestion on facebook. It just happens. We watch movies just like everyone else and we think that if we try that, it will work. WRONG! Which brings me to my next point. This is why for me, I have chosen to remain single until I die. This is the only way to ensure my safety and sanity. Being accused of stalking someone is gut wrenching, it makes a man feel like a complete piece of s**t, and it is thrown around like it is some kind of end all be all.
Kind of related. I recently had two female friends say they were uncomfortable with my advances. Which was news to me because (a) I live a continent away and only talk with them on Facebook, (b) I came out as queer and trans and wasn't exactly shy about this online, and would prefer to date a guy at the moment, and (c) both had been telling me about how they were feeling low and lonely and I just tried to offer some help and support by talking to them and checking in on them to let them know there was someone out there being a friend. It made me a bit depressed, but, mostly, I was just confused.
Because "no means no". Anything else would be sexual harrassment or stalking.
Girls: Men never take no for an answer. They keep asking and sometimes follow you or worse. Man: *Takes no for an answer* Girl: Why did you take no as an answer?
What do these women want? They don't know....When do they want it? Right Fricking Now
Because "being in a relationship is not a sport". Makes sense?
A guy asked me out today and I told him "no", but he tried harder so now I'm suing him for sexual harrassment.
this is why I will never date western women and I refused to get married. I don't even date or have sex with western no more, it's not worth the trouble nor risks. If the woman have not been in the country 1 year or less and doesn't act a western woman, then I'll talk to her.
Very strange that no-one’s figures out why she said “no,” based on her expectations- not saying society isn’t rapidly changing but in her case she was trying to protect her reputation and not appear “easy.” Any questions?
I forgot that we live in a society where nobody can be held responsible for their own actions...
Load More Replies...I have no more time for games. I've had my heart shredded many times over various ways women try to test my commitment and I'm left what I was worth them and if a good relation is equal then why was I the only one trying?
This c**p is why that woman is alone and will die alone. If you want to p**s about and treat men like playthings, you don't deserve a relationship.
Ahem! CONT from below. Dont be afraid and always "have your guard up". If you care for them, give them your whole heart! (that doesnt mean to be anyones doormat!) But, suppose the worst happens, you havent gone, "ALL in". And just loved them with abandon, then they end up severing the relationship and breaking your heart. You will end up no more hurt than you otherwise would have been! And who is really "the fool"?? You can walk away saying I gave it my all. They will walk away saying, "They were a really great partner in a relationship". Essentially, you NEVER lose anything by loving somebody! EVER!
I like the analogy about saying you wanted pizza, when you really wanted steak, so why did she bring you pizza? Expecting someone else to read your mind is a fool's errand. Say exactly what you want (or don't want) clearly.
How do you even do such stupidity? Here we r trying to have equal rights nd understanding for everyone. And people like u think u are some kind of special that would make everyone go crazy after u, even after u said no. Guess wht lady u don't live in fairy tale, grow up. Act like a mature. Learn to communicate what do u actually want.
If someone plays mind games it’s because they are lacking that date life. The supposed to be first part of a relationship. If ya done moved in with each other it’s gonna feel like there was nothing special to get you there. Just a simple open the door come on in.
Why are you repeatedly posting rants against people for not dating enough for your "old traditional way"? If people want to have sex on day one, that's their choice. Not yours.
Load More Replies...since only looking at a girls without her consent is now sexual assault if she feels uncomfortable... what else can men do? We live in a total feministan.
I stare at the ceiling a lot lol. Avoiding women is a full time job
Load More Replies...I mean if u do the opposite, then people would say why you do stuff against her will or why you don't let her make decisions you sexism dictator
Luckily this girl isn't the standard for women. She's a bit of a fool. Most women won't act like this.
Load More Replies...Makes me think back to a BF in highschool. "Want to go out this weekendm?" No. "Next weekend ?" No. "Within the next month?" Not really. Two weeks later him: we haven't gone out in forever. Why haven't you asked me out? Uck Foff with that s**t
My answer to her "why?": Because he saw her post and figured that he dodged a bullet
Works both ways. When I was dating, years ago, I'd ask if a guy would like to meet just for coffee, nothing involved beyond that. I took it seriously if he'd say no, and I'd never ask again (the whopping total 3 men I asked over the years all said no. I'm not a beautiful woman by any means, just saying, and they wanted looks). One man DID get all in my face about not "pursuing" him strongly enough, but once I heard No, that was it, period. Now I won't date, not as a septuagenarian. Far too much hassle for nothing.
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The guy complaining about his 8 year girlfriend leaving him doesn't belong and is lying to himself. Unlike the other women saying "I wanted steak, but told him pizza, why did he give me pizza?" His was actually upfront about wanting steak and provided clear directions. Wanting to break up because she doesn't feel wanted = fix this major relationship flaw and I'll probably stay. He had a pretty clear way to show she was wanted right then. He didn't bother, and proved her right that he didn't want her. Now he's saying it's her fault.
Asked quite a few ladies the last few years: most likely a huge NO! Maybe my approach is wrong? Wasn’t a fit? Needy? I’m not sure, other than I’m very “rusty” in the dating scene. I was married 24 years and dated a few great women after but the last 6 years, it has been extremely challenging! No, after awhile is like getting kicked in gonads.
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Men can't win. If these men had tried harder they would probably have been lambasted for having male "entitlement",
Men can't win. If these men had "tried harder" they would probably have been castigated for their "male entitlement",
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I know women like to be chased, but there is a point when we have to stick to our own dignity too.
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lol and be part of the #metoo movement? hell no, if a chick says no; I move on, plain and simple.
Wait wait, with a crazy #metoo movement going on and alllll these women whining and complaining about men not understanding the meaning of NO, you now want us to ignore NO and risk harassing you and joining the #metoo movement? that's dense.
Are we sure the person who asked the question wasn't simply trolling? To me it sounds less like the thought process of a real girl--even the dysfunctional, narcissistic kind--than like a sarcastic stalker venting about how his targets won't confess they are playing hard to get.
Are we sure the person who asked the question wasn't simply trolling?
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With these new "rules", we are trying to change over 2000 years of human behavior in the span of less than 20 years. Seriously, this is going to take decades to set in.
Tries all of his best moves...this is too much LIKE a game. Asking for a partner is a dance. If you do it all at once and get bored this means you lack object constancy. Where Narcissism and manipulation come from, verbal abuse and many other things that do not retain her value. And you FORCE us to prove we aren’t playing games? You force us to look like gold diggers. It is OUR VALUE we want preserved...so we can bring you in at that same rate.
When women think about a man penetrating her that PUSH is defined and yearned for longterm by the initial lengths he goes vs what he will yield to for her honor. I’m the value he retains for her she feels protectioned, comforted, and knows she is unique. It saves a lot of later questions and tests if you DO QUE IN SO HER BODY CRAVES YOU WITHOUT SHAME. MOST WOKEN WILL NOT TELL YOU THIS. That yielding coupled by your strength and restraint is what we think about when we want you. If you make it about getting your own rejection soothes or you don’t stay constant then your LITERAL PUSH AND THAT BOUNDARY GOES NUMB. THE GAME IS MAKING MEN’S INSTINCTS AN INDECENT THING BY MIXING UP MATING DANCES WITH SEX, VERBAL ABUSES INTO HER BODY, AND THINKING ITS ALL RIGHT AND LEFT. KNEWS FLASH....WOMEN ARE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. That initial dance is everything to her in how she sees what you are capable of. Do not make YEARNING AND DREAMING SHE NEEDS TIME TO DO INTO YOUR INCONSISTENT RESENTMENT.
No means no for physical boundaries/space BREECHED, not the dance. Why are you assuming, labeling, mocking the natural selections, submissions, protections of women? Our body signals PENETRATION INTENSITY BY RECALL OF THE INITIAL PURSUIT, ITS STRENGTH, PERSISTENCE, THAT FEELING. Men=respect fueled, women=value preserved. NATURAL SELECTION. SUSTAINED FORTITUDE FOR HER/YIELD TO HER CUES. LONGTERM resiliency, stamina, irresistability. Do you give up on treasure? The minute you do, you affect her LESS. She thinks is it JUST HER specifically, or? IS IT HER YOU WANT REGARDLESS OF OBSTACLE/ANTICIPATION. ANIMALS have mating calls and feats they try MANY TIMES. It shows RISK BY HIM, yet you call this TESTING? You want a cheap easy YES, next you’ll TREAT HER JUST LIKE THIS. Women have intuition. Saying no NOW doesn’t always mean NO forever, SHOW ME A DISPLAY, I’LL YEARN, PROMPT, DREAM. Take away the reference for women’s sexual enjoyment/decency and male instincts are marked INDECENT GAME.
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Lmao.... because he didn't want a woman who played games. She just lost what woman have been demanding for years. A credible guy lol. He simply moved on to better pastures.
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Today, if guys try too hard, they get accused of sexual assault. You ladies are going to be so sad when men ditch you for sex robots.
She wasn't worth having for the simple reason that in her perverse mind-game to give herself personal validation, she completely failed to consider his feelings. Maybe it had taken him a great deal of effort to pluck up courage to ask her out, maybe her rejection was a heavy blow. I've had relationships in the past where the girl played little games to test the strength of my feelings for them, if you don't give the answer they expect you don't love them? Bollocks. Trust and love are earned, so earn them instead of playing deceitful little games.
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Lol. While the responses were to be expected, as a girl I can actually understand her. People don't always say what they think - this is actually true for both genders. Sometimes when humans say "yeah I'm fine" they actually really, REALLY want you to disregard that, give them a huge hug, warm blanket, big cup of hot cocoa and just cry with them over whatever sh** happened. Sometimes when people say "yes" they only say it out of feeling like they have to be nice/owe something in return...I've done that before, it didn't end well. Sometimes when people say "no", they're aching inside for you to convince them otherwise, to grab them by the shoulder, yell in their faces from the depth of your heart, shred their inconfident scared shell with your confidence and bring them out into the light and happiness. Of course, sometimes a "no" is just a "no" and further pushing would simply hurt both parties in the end.
Moral of the story? I don't know, honestly. Perhaps the type of person that you'd want to see by your side til your dying day would be able to understand you and see past what you said and into what you meant. Or perhaps not and you missed your chance. Life is complicated sometimes.
Load More Replies...I absolutely hate games like this. Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no. End of discussion.
My ex said to me I don’t want to be with you anymore and ask is this what u really want she said yes so started to make arrangements to move out get another place once everything was done and I was pretty much out of the house and moved into my new house he told me I didn’t really want to break up but you ran with it so fast I didn’t know how to stop at my reply to her was at any point in time you could have opened your mouth and talked to me But now her lease is up and you’re going your way and I’m going my way I told her you waited too long to say something so I’m done with you
Women do not play games, little girls do. See the difference?
I dunno... It is either Yes or No. If you want to play games go to a ballpark.
My mom used to ask if we wanted green beans or corn with dinner. We would say green beans. When dinner was ready we had corn on our plates. I asked why she asked what we wanted if she wasn't going to make it. My mom said, "Dr Spock said you should always give children a choice, it's not my fault you picked the wrong one" I didn't realize how funny my mom was until I was much older.
Life advice from a tv huckster of c**p merch. Consider the source, my grandmother used to say.
One time Windows asked me if i was sure that i wanted to Shut Down. I said NO. Windows shut down anyway.
Funny but has nothing to do with her reason for saying no or how society is changing toward equal status for women.
Load More Replies...I don't understand this behavior. Yes, I want someone to fight for me, but I want them to do it because I told them I loved them not because I told them I didn't want them. These games are f*****g stupid and cruel. How are you supposed to know anything. Can't I just have love, please!
An entitled person like this will wreck your head with their neediness. Guy dodged a bullet taking that no as an answer. If you put someone on a pedestal they will forever be looking down on you.
Respect your partner enough to be clear in what you want. No is no and mind games is no wayou to teat someone else care about.
I do agree that it's rather silly to get upset afterwards wondering why they didn't follow; however, it is impressive when people (not just men) can know what they want and put more effort in pursuing it. You don't have to be rude, you don't have to be pushy, but stand your ground. Don't see why a simple "no" will turn someone completely away. My recommendation, after a rejection, take a step back, reconsider the value and try again, differently.
Oh hell yeah! Be honest! Don't dance around the question or say later "I meant yes, really." People, if you cannot say what you feel and mean it so the person opposite you can believe they know what is going on then we are going to stay in this #MeToo soup forever. "say it, mean it, hear it, believe it" end of story, or maybe beginning of......
if you wanted them to try harder then flat out say it, this isn't a movie
So just taking a guess here it is just an opinion, but the mind game is more of trying to satisfy the desire to see the effort, see how much a person means to you. But yes it is very odd and complex to the point it almost never works. Just saying
out on a drive with hubby. he' says do you want me to go left or right. I say right, he goes left. next time he asks I say I don't care. H says ," make a decision.." The the first time He called and asked for a date, I was really, really sick. He didn't call again and it took six months of chasing him before he asked me out again. I asked why he didn't call me back. he said, I thought you were blowing me off. We have been married almost 48 years.
Ok. So she said no but I've learnt that this means I must try harder. A few try harder later, "You're accused of sexual harrassment." Wait I only wanted you. And thought you know... Try harder.
Just understand that everybody's different. What may work for one person may fail for another. One woman likes chocolate, other prefers fruit flavoured candy. One will be honest and sat what she wants, another one will prefer to be chased after. So just follow your heart/brain and respect whatever she says. If she loses you, it's her fault she lied and you deserve someone better anyway. Someone with whom you'll live in a reality and not in an unnecessary drama. Also, one who wants to play needs to understand the rules. Saying "no" is game over. Saying "maybe", or giving an ambiguous answer is what may start the game. But then again, people's feelings are no game.
Load More Replies...Or maybe, just maybe, this post was a "trolling" post? This may not even be a girl...
When you play games like this there are never any winners ! With the way things are today men have to be very careful ..... because odds are stacked against us!
Its been awhile but one rejection was about all my ego could stand.
If you look at a girl without her consent you are a weirdo potencial rapist. If you talk to her without her consent, you suddently become sexual harasser. She can even accuse you of sexual assault based on NOTHING. Basically, men, record EVERYTHING, even your domestic issues. As a man, you have no rights, remember that. This is feministan! you'll have to prove you're innocent no matter what. and socially, you'll be judged guilty no matter what.
In this day and age of accusations of sexual assault, stocking, and other false claims ten years or more after the incident, why would any man continue to talk to a woman who said no? If she said no, then run the other way, never speak to her again, because if she really did mean no and you asked again, then her feminist friends would talk her into charging you with harassment.
When an ugly girl winks at a handsome guy, she is seen as desperate and deluded. Men and women are different but mind games are not exclusive to just women, I have seen plenty of men play the same games, esp when their pride is involved.
Load More Replies...But this wasn't someone she loved. It was a guy asking her out for a first date. If she wanted to say yes, she should have said yes.
Load More Replies...Um, no. Being gay has literally nothing to do with this. It's how you're born.
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