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“Antiques Roadshow” Expert Refuses To Value Relic From “Awful Business” Of Slave Trade
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“Antiques Roadshow” Expert Refuses To Value Relic From “Awful Business” Of Slave Trade

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BBC’s Antiques Roadshow confronted a historical artifact with a past so dark that it left expert Ronnie Archer-Morgan at a loss for words – or rather, a price.

On the popular show, people often bring in old relics or heirlooms from their attics, hoping they might be worth something. However, the recent episode, filmed against the picturesque backdrop of Alexandra Gardens in Cardiff, took an unexpected turn when a guest presented an item deeply entangled with the grim history of the slave trade.

“The item was a disc that acted as an endorsement of the professional reputation of an African slave trader in the West African port of Bonny in the 18th century,” host Fiona Bruce said in a voiceover.

Ronnie inspected the item and said it was an “amazing” find despite being associated with the “callous trade” of humans from the 17th to 19th centuries.

Ronnie Archer-Morgan said the item, brought on BBC’s Antiques Roadshow, was “about trading in human life”

Image credits: Antiques Roadshow

“I want to make it absolutely clear that myself and we and the Antiques Roadshow wholly and unequivocally disapprove of the trade in ivory,” Ronnie told the woman who brought the item on the show. “But this ivory bangle here is not about trading in ivory, it’s about trading in human life, and it’s probably one of the most difficult things that I’ve ever had to talk about. But talk about it we must.”

The woman who brought the item revealed on the show that she got hold of the object from a family she used to look after.

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“One of the members passed away and she was having a house sale,” she recalled. “And I bought that 36 years ago in the house sale for £3.”

The disc, which featured some beautiful calligraphy, had the trader’s name, Prince Jemmy of Grandy, inscribed. Ronnie believed the trader was an African himself and described him as a “despicable human being.”

The woman who appeared on the show with the item said she bought it for £3

Image credits: Antiques Roadshow

He also explained to viewers that the words “honest fellow” were also engraved on the item.

“I’d like to meet him and tell him how honest I think he is,” Ronnie said on the show.

The Antiques Roadshow star went on to say that he feels it’s his “cultural duty” to talk about the subject because his own “great-grandmother was a returned slave from Nova Scotia in Canada and came back to Sierra Leone and Freetown.”

Ronnie refused to put a value on the item that was associated with enslaved people

“I just don’t want to value it,” he finally said. “I do not want to put a price on something that signifies such an awful business.”

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“But the value is in the lessons that this can tell people. The value is in researching this and what we can find out,” he added. “And I just love you for bringing it to the roadshow.”

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MoriahPapaya
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I appreciate he used this horrid piece of history to educate while preserving the dignity of those who suffered by not placing a fiscal value on it.

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Cindy Green
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are more people enslaved today than any other time in history..

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm working on research of slavery/ racism in my NJ town for our Historical Commission..and I know there are more people housekeeping because someone has taken their passport in my area , and there's sex slaves, than were slaves back then. Of course there's more people now. !!!!HOLY C**P!!! the episode of Antiques Roadshow I'm watching right now just had a map of my area from revolutionary war and I looked at it and pointed " that's where the slave Rebecca escaped from"!!!!

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm pretty sure the script reads, "One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them." (The evil of Sauron from our own world.)

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least he talked about it and didn't simply try to erase it from existence.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is , for me, one of the best things i read lately: "it’s probably one of the most difficult things that I’ve ever had to talk about. But talk about it we must.”

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very obviously he was saying that both the ivory trade and the slave trade are horrible. Which they are. I don't think he decided not to value it only because of the ivory. That is a part of it but not all of the reason.

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Jeff White
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good article. Thank you for bringing it to my and everyone's attention. "Talk about it we must"

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Allen Packard
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is fair. I am not sure that should have any monetary value. It should be in museum so people can see how dumb/cruel we were.

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Rebekah Fuentes
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That must have been incredibly difficult to look at and talk about. I'm so thankful they did though, otherwise, I never would have known these items existed.

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R L
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the ARS have people going aroung and seeing what people have, and then select those with interesting items to have them appraised. If they knew that ivory was a no-no, why would they want to highlight it? If they want to highlight slave trade (which would have only been discussed at valuation), he certainly did so. However, everything has a price, regardless of our emotions towards it. Morally he may not have wanted to contribute to that, but someone else will. Sell it to a museum and use the funds to support the eradicating of human trafficking or the banning ivory trade.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Donate to a museum, I don't think they'd pay for slave/ivory artifacts, Hell, I think you can't legally sell ivory in most cases ...... Just curious, What's your price? :)

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's a relic from a long time ago. The elephant died 200 or so years ago. Do they not appraise antique pianos with ivory keys? Or antique jewelry with gold and jewels inlaid in an ivory pendant? How about walrus ivory harvested by indigenous peoples? Or mammoth ivory (which is not under any international ivory proscriptions?)

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Gary
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'Whosh' mate, you managed to miss the entire video and description.

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TennesseeHomesteadUSA
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lifted from the Daily Mail. He played Victim rather than set a value on it. The video is pathetic.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Refusing to set monetary value on an object that was used as license to capture and sell human beings? It should not have monetary value. Its only appropriate use is for education, which means it belongs in a museum. He wasn't playing victim. He was standing up for a principle.

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1 month ago (edited)

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Talk about click-bait! The author of this article didn't really bother to read the quote from the show's presenter that they used to support their title (that, or they didn't understand what was said) : “I want to make it absolutely clear that myself and we and the Antiques Roadshow wholly and unequivocally disapprove of the trade in ivory,” Ronnie told the woman who brought the item on the show. So, it was less about evaluating a slave trader's seal of approval than it was about putting a price on a piece of IVORY, despite its cultural significance.

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Johnny
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you watch the video? Or even read this article? It's clear it's not the ivory that made this item so difficult to talk about. “But this ivory bangle here is not about trading in ivory, it’s about trading in human life, and it’s probably one of the most difficult things that I’ve ever had to talk about. But talk about it we must.”

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It belongs in a museum. She should stop trying recoup three pounds and instead recoup her dignity.

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MoriahPapaya
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I appreciate he used this horrid piece of history to educate while preserving the dignity of those who suffered by not placing a fiscal value on it.

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Cindy Green
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are more people enslaved today than any other time in history..

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Darius S. (he/him) cis/grey
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm working on research of slavery/ racism in my NJ town for our Historical Commission..and I know there are more people housekeeping because someone has taken their passport in my area , and there's sex slaves, than were slaves back then. Of course there's more people now. !!!!HOLY C**P!!! the episode of Antiques Roadshow I'm watching right now just had a map of my area from revolutionary war and I looked at it and pointed " that's where the slave Rebecca escaped from"!!!!

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danmarshctr avatar
The Original Bruno
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm pretty sure the script reads, "One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them." (The evil of Sauron from our own world.)

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v
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least he talked about it and didn't simply try to erase it from existence.

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Sue User
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is , for me, one of the best things i read lately: "it’s probably one of the most difficult things that I’ve ever had to talk about. But talk about it we must.”

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ConstantlyJon
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Very obviously he was saying that both the ivory trade and the slave trade are horrible. Which they are. I don't think he decided not to value it only because of the ivory. That is a part of it but not all of the reason.

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Jeff White
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good article. Thank you for bringing it to my and everyone's attention. "Talk about it we must"

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Allen Packard
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is fair. I am not sure that should have any monetary value. It should be in museum so people can see how dumb/cruel we were.

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Rebekah Fuentes
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That must have been incredibly difficult to look at and talk about. I'm so thankful they did though, otherwise, I never would have known these items existed.

rl_2 avatar
R L
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the ARS have people going aroung and seeing what people have, and then select those with interesting items to have them appraised. If they knew that ivory was a no-no, why would they want to highlight it? If they want to highlight slave trade (which would have only been discussed at valuation), he certainly did so. However, everything has a price, regardless of our emotions towards it. Morally he may not have wanted to contribute to that, but someone else will. Sell it to a museum and use the funds to support the eradicating of human trafficking or the banning ivory trade.

dariusstrolia avatar
Darius S. (he/him) cis/grey
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Donate to a museum, I don't think they'd pay for slave/ivory artifacts, Hell, I think you can't legally sell ivory in most cases ...... Just curious, What's your price? :)

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HARRY KOPPERS
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's a relic from a long time ago. The elephant died 200 or so years ago. Do they not appraise antique pianos with ivory keys? Or antique jewelry with gold and jewels inlaid in an ivory pendant? How about walrus ivory harvested by indigenous peoples? Or mammoth ivory (which is not under any international ivory proscriptions?)

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Gary
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'Whosh' mate, you managed to miss the entire video and description.

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TennesseeHomesteadUSA
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lifted from the Daily Mail. He played Victim rather than set a value on it. The video is pathetic.

karenhann avatar
Insomniac
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Refusing to set monetary value on an object that was used as license to capture and sell human beings? It should not have monetary value. Its only appropriate use is for education, which means it belongs in a museum. He wasn't playing victim. He was standing up for a principle.

Load More Replies...
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Noname
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1 month ago (edited)

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

Talk about click-bait! The author of this article didn't really bother to read the quote from the show's presenter that they used to support their title (that, or they didn't understand what was said) : “I want to make it absolutely clear that myself and we and the Antiques Roadshow wholly and unequivocally disapprove of the trade in ivory,” Ronnie told the woman who brought the item on the show. So, it was less about evaluating a slave trader's seal of approval than it was about putting a price on a piece of IVORY, despite its cultural significance.

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Johnny
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you watch the video? Or even read this article? It's clear it's not the ivory that made this item so difficult to talk about. “But this ivory bangle here is not about trading in ivory, it’s about trading in human life, and it’s probably one of the most difficult things that I’ve ever had to talk about. But talk about it we must.”

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Guess Undheit
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1 month ago

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It belongs in a museum. She should stop trying recoup three pounds and instead recoup her dignity.

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