One of the biggest and greatest values that modern western cultures and societies have is freedom. Particularly, the freedom to choose a life they want.
Not every choice is easy, though, because some choose a child-free lifestyle, but that doesn’t slide with folks who are of a more traditional approach. At the very least, it can be annoying.
But there is a dedicated place to celebrate and debate the concept of antinatalism, as seen on Reddit. Scroll down to check out some of the best memes and posts found on the subreddit and remember that it’s all to further a discussion, so join in on the debate.
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The only two goals of the "pro-life" movement is to control women and produce more workforce (that's also why Republicans are pushing for making child labor legal). It was never about "saving babies".
And in america, those that want to legislate to take away the choice from a woman, those legislators are the ones also legislating to cut back on benefits.
Once you are born, Conservatives say you are on your own. So instead of giving money to support, say an orphanage, they send it to Donald Trump.
These are also the type of people who dehumanize the homeless, immigrants, etc. Claim it's about the bible with fetuses but somehow the bible conveniently says nothing about actual people. OH WAIT.
I can't help but notice that the comment section is severely lacking in any kind of response from the pro-lifers on this one. I wonder why that is? The same general group of people will jump in and defend their religion when it's being picked on. Why the silence on this topic?
I love this argument for the abortion at will folks. So your solution for the poor, the orphans, the abused etc... is to just kill them. Smh
Old, But Still Awesome
Oh, I don't know...enjoy working on a career, traveling, nurturing hobbies, hanging out with friends, sleeping late, staying at parties as long as I want... basically whatever the f**k I want. I mean, I'm a parent, but this guy is an idiot. It is NOT a woman's sole purpose to procreate!!
Pathetic. I can never tell if these sexist weirdos are being disingenuous about their views or they are just stupid. Probably both. Either way the stupid is there.
This is such a weird thing to say. Is Stefan going around having a kid a year until he keels over at 80? Does he think women who have had kids prior to age 40 ought to off themselves at 40?
Men like this don’t view women as human beings with inherent worth. We aren’t baby making machines, good grief.
Finally Representation For Society’s Anti Natal Women
When I was in marketing we tried to sell this idea to a pregnancy test client and they were aghast. I did not understand what was so awful about being happy you weren't pregnant.
The funniest commercial I ever saw was from a Scandinavian country (sorry, I don't remember which one). It was about a toddler having an absolute meltdown and a man just looking at him. It's implied that he's the father. Then he walks out of the market with a packet of condoms and a huge smile!
The one where the kid is screaming for sweets??? That one was hilarious!
Load More Replies...I saw one recently where some woman were happy after viewing test, some sad. We did not know if the test was + or - in any case.
I like that, it lets the viewer make their own determination.
Load More Replies...Breeding is sold as "the only option" because negative tests mean no new customers.
so now they are marketing pregnancy test commercials to people who think they're pregnant but don't want to be... so like r-ape victims, or people just going around having unprotected s-ex? im not quite sure why someone would be happy to not be pregnant, other than they weren't expecting it because if they don't want children they should be doing everything in their power to prevent it from happening....
Even if you're taking birth control and use a condom each time, you should still use a pregnancy test once in a while. Birth control is only 98% effective with perfect use. That would mean never forgetting it one day, taking it at the exact time every day. Most people aren't perfect so the effect goes down. Condoms can and have broken. It's extremely rare, but even someone using birth control, a condom and the pull out method has a 1-3% chance of getting pregnant. So it's possible.
Load More Replies...So, r/Antinatalism is a subreddit that supports the belief that having kids is morally wrong and can’t be justified.
The subreddit encourages open debate among members (of which there are 215,000 at this point) and visitors alike, as long as everyone treats each other with empathy, compassion and respect.
I’m Speechless
Man that's morbid. The part about projecting grief and identity on the kid is absolutely on point.
Tell them that he offered to cut off his pinky so you can keep a piece of him. And that you plan to make a necklace from it. Just traumatize them back.
I'm so sorry for what you are going through and shocked by the stupidity of those around you. They need to learn common sense and sensitivity. The only thing they should be doing is supporting you both. Good luck for the future, may you enjoy whatever time you have together.
Are you saying we should have more sex? Because honestly, we're having as much as we can before he goes. I suppose we could amp it up though. I can let you know how that goes. Thanks or the advice, I'll go home and bang him right now!
Unthinking people need to learn to MYOB. Sympathy to this woman and her partner
So sorry you've been subjected to this. Write to Miss Manners and ask for the perfect put-down!
Society's Expectation For Having A Dog vs. Having A Child
This is 100% spot on, the amount of kids born to sh!tty parents is alot but if you want to adopt a dog you get hone visits, forms to fill in ect but any junkie can walk out of a hospital with a new born baby 🤯 seen it in Ireland so many times 🤢
Yes, it's how adoption works. Imagine if you want to adopt a child.
Load More Replies...I'm 40 and all I hear from people now is "oh the clock is ticking" It is infuriating.
Unfortunately it's not ticking loud enough to drown them out.
Load More Replies...Because society can't control a woman's life if she has a dog. And as you can tell by the news, there's are fewer consqeuences for abusing a dog than having a medical procedure to get rid of an unwanted parasite.
and I don't agree with not being able to get an abortion. I know that you can still get one in most places. but in some places in the United States you can't get one. so if you live in one of those areas you have to drive miles away just to get an abortion. and yeah I know that people who can't have babies feel bad when other people are getting pregnant and getting abortions. but I think that it should be your own choice. if you wanna have an abortion then you should be able to get one in your area.
Load More Replies..."how big is your home" "Can you handle mornings" "How much money do you make" "Do you have time for long vigorous walks" These are the questions you should ask before having a child. A long vigorous walk with a dog is a literal walk in the park compared to the time and amount of vigor you need for a baby.
When we chose to adopt a child, we had to write a soul searching essay explaining all the reasons we wanted a child. We had an evaluation from an adoption agency of our financial and home environment. There should be the same for everyone who wants a child. Except the reality is that most pregnancies are unplanned.
I keep getting targeted advertising for baby and pregnancy related products. I'm a woman who hasn't gone through menopause yet so obviously I have or am soon going to have TEH BEBBES!!
None Of This Makes Sense
Not only does it not make sense, current US laws are actively endangering women in so many other ways, by forcing women to carry non-viable pregnancies to the point of severe, sometimes life-altering circumstances. In Louisiana, the abortion laws are so strict that there are cases of women undergoing c-sections to remove non-viable fetuses, rather than having the historically appropriately prescribed abortion. Women, we have a fight on our hands again, and it's a fight we MUST win.
That woman in Texas who had a non-viable fetus inside her. She sued the state but it was taking too long so she had the pregnancy terminated elsewhere, now they're going after her. And to be clear, that fetus was never going to make it. The Texas Supreme Court eventually ruled against her, now she might go to jail. So grateful to live in a first world country and not the US
Load More Replies...Vote! Vote blue! Push back. Don't let them shove women back to the dark ages! Round up everyone you know to vote blue.
If she gets pregnant it can't be helped, she still too young and lacking of maturity. My preacher got cool points this past week when he debated with someone in the church, that abortions weren't bad but a necessity. In his opinion some babies are better off not being born into a hard life and young ladies shouldn't risk their lives having these babies. I appreciate him for that!
And there is no exception for rape or incest. The girl has already been through enough trauma, don't make her carry to term what was thrust upon her by a violent act.
It's the same as conservatives shouting "You're not a man, you're a girl!" at effeminate men and yet shout "You'll never be a real woman, you're a man!" at trans women. They have no principles other than punishing and bullying the "undesirable" people.
The same for bisalps or other forms of sterilization. If a woman is 36 and has four kids, the mengeles will STILL try to talk her out of it. If a woman is 26, the mengeles will demand PERMISSION FROM A MAN (i.e. "husband"), make women jump through hoops, and waste their time for years. [ .................. ] To any women reading: If a "doctor" refuses to give you a bisalp referral, file a complaint with a medical board. Black marks on their records affect their "careers" and will make them pay attention.
How can you trust me with a child if you can't trust me with a choice...
The issue of antinatalism is more than just not wanting to deal with having kids. It doesn’t officially state I don’t wanna as a reason behind it, but nobody’s stopping anyone from assuming that stance.
Anywho, there are a handful of reasons why antinatalists think reproduction is problematic and those can be boiled down to 5 key concepts.
Say It Again Louder For The People In The Back
Or, frankly, I'll sit quietly and enjoy being in the little house I worked hard for.
Sometimes I sits and thinks. And sometimes I just sits. I believe that is some wisdom from Winnie The Pooh.
Load More Replies..."You'll get bored of doing whatever you want" made me laugh. That statement drips with envy.
The best way to have meaning in your life is to be free to do what you choose to do.
I remember someone telling me that they needed to have kids to give their life "purpose". Seems like a lofty goal to set on a child, not to mention an expensive purpose. Get a hobby, volunteer, learn a new skill. Plenty of other things in life to give you purpose without an expensive 18+ year commitment
I’m a Dad, it’s not WHO I am, it’s just what I am, that’s a fact, I’m a Dad. Meaning in my life comes from what I do, how I help others, how I help my daughter to lead a fulfilling life, what I enjoy, what I experience. If you not have children then you get to expand your horizons in a different way, grow in a different way, but that’s all your choice, you can simply watch the flowers grow and enjoy the sunshine. Hey you could even adopt when you are 40+ and spread some love that way. So many right options out there, you do you ok? 😀
Reproducing is technically creating non consenting life lol potential parents should consider if they can handle that responsibility.
"Then you'll want some meaning in your life." What a hilarious self-report, admitting that you just had kids because your life was s**t and you couldn't think of anything better to do with it to bring yourself meaning. "Whelp, might as well have some kids because I don't have anything to live for otherwise!"
People should really mind their own business. It's your decision, but everyone thinks they know best.
The correct sentiment is "I hope you get the result you're looking for." Not, "do you want a girl or a boy?!"
If the customer and the cashier have a personal relationship and are having a personal conversation initiated by the customer about this topic, this would be a good sentiment/response. Otherwise, cashiers should not comment on customer's purchases. Among other reasons, the customer may be buying items for someone else. And that is not anyone else's business.
Load More Replies...Was late and SO scared of ending up with two under two yrs when I didn't know yet if I'd ever even want to have a second kid. Couldn't sleep and ended up at a 24hr grocery store in my pj's and unbrushed hair at 2am to pick a test up. Quietly, flat faced, flat toned, the cashier wished me good luck. It was good luck.
One of colleague is always irritating me that I will want kids someday, so I was planning a trip to an international location and I told her I am looking forward to it, and she was like, it will be great if you will get pregnant while you are there, and I was like, but they do sell contraceptives there and ii know how to buy em, I loved her embarrassed face.
why the hell would she say something like that? It doesn't matter where you are, there is no place that is "better" to get pregnant. Locations have no bearing on this issue at all!
Load More Replies...I was assaulted which resulted in a pregnancy. We are white, our son is not. People will ask, more than you could imagine, where does he get his color? So I tell them. The look on their faces is all the reward I need when someone thinks it is OK to just ask that to a stranger.
As the joke meme says, a woman buys a pregnancy test and coathangers, and the clerk gives her a look.
I bought one many years back and wished I could have gone somewhere with a self checkout (they were new at the time) simply because I was terrified someone would comment on it and I'd have to say "I hope it's negative"
So Ture
The most straightforward reasons in support of antinatalism are the facts that [1] life entails inevitable suffering and that [2] death is inevitable.
In other words, why put someone through a life of indeterminate length, unknown perils (instant or chronic), struggles, strives and tribulations, for it all to end in an even more unknown end is unpleasant to say the least.
This Is From A Real Anti-Aborter. You Can’t Make This Up… You Just Can't
I hope the kid brings her to court and wins when its older because yes im here in this sh!tty life because you talked an unfit mother into having me
All pro life people should be required sign up to take in any unwanted pregnancies, if a woman wants to have an abortion and can carry the pregnancy to term safely, a pro life will get picked out of a lottery and congratulations you get to pay for all of the woman’s medical bills , a cost of living up to a year after the baby is born. I bet that shut a lot of people up quickly
Do you mean Pro life people? Pro choice people advocate for the legal right for a woman to choose
Load More Replies...Oh I've been saying this for years! To every anti abortionist out there, off you go, out into the Streets, bring home every homeless child who's parents never wanted them, you pay for their needs. Schooling, medical etc etc. Oh and take those newborn babies who's mum's were on d***s, it ok all your holier than though friends will help out! Absolute interfering nutters. How dare you tell any woman what she has to do with her body! Mind your own business!
Those anti-choice people claim to be "pro-life" but they are not. They are "pro-born" they don't give a damn once the baby is born. I think anyone who talks someone out of an abortion should automatically take in that baby, since they are so wanting the baby to be born
A fun activity is walking up to the protesters at the clinics and say something like "why thank you for offering to take my child in! " Or "why thank you for offering to help me with my child! When can I expect the first check?" They will BACKPEDAL like crazy lol
I've got two kids of my own and I feel exactly the same as the op. Outnumbered by kids sounds like a form of torture.
I've actually answered someone with "congratulations on being fertile"
That male contributes as much time to raising those four sprog (*) as he did to creating them, about 10 minutes per kid per lifetime. [ ........................... ] * sprog, aka f~~k trophies
The guy with four kids wants to show you how manly he is. Too bad fathering children doesn't do it. Hope he takes good care of his family. They're not just status symbols.
This Is The Way
I'm doing that anyway. Happy to think of you while I'm enjoying myself.
Load More Replies...I don't want to sound argumentative. But I have three kids and I've never once felt like I didn't have time for hobbies or pastimes. I've never had to neglect hobbies or felt like I was lacking on free time. While raising my kids, I still have read mountains of books, participated in NaNoWriMo, earned three certifications in the medical field, went back to school to work towards my BA, painted, became a better cook, learned how to garden, traveled, hiked, participated in community theater, dabbled in dance and probably a million other things I can't recall at the moment. I incorporated the kids into a lot of it. I do not think I'm the exception. I think there is this idea that parents can't pursue hobbies, or fulfill wants like travel, etc. and it just isn't true in many cases.
As a childfree person, no, it's not. I'm not here to cater to parents who wants to be victims because of their own bad choices that prevents them from doing what I do.
To clarify: I'm talking about parents who endlessly whine about their lives. Not those who are perfectly content with raising children and living their lives
Load More Replies...This also roots into the idea of gambling with another person’s suffering. Sure, some (and, seemingly, a majority) of people turn out happy overall with the lives they lead, but there is never a guarantee for it.
By proxy, extending your gene pool is akin to gambling with another’s suffering.
End This Madness
Should have chosen a different embryo since conservatives can still counter this with "BLUE LIVES MATTER"
I was not prepared for a murder this early in the morning!!!!!
Load More Replies...I posted a meme of the scene of Lord Voldemort under the bench in Kings cross station (that ugly looking baby thing) and I had some nutjob go off on me about posting a pic of an abortion fetus. I mean seriously dude.....have you never seen the Harry Potter movies??! I tore him and whoever else commented on it a new arsehole! These people just pïss me off!! Not your body, not your choice!
They once had a "line up" of a human embryo, a chicken embryo and a reptile embryo at the same stage of development and asked people to pick out the human. No one could.
Being A Family Never Has To Require Going Through Childbirth
This has actually become a thing. I remember reading how 7 ladies got together, bought a mansion, and moved in together so they could retire and enjoy their golden years.
the only thing stopping you, and others from doing that, is yourself. you probably care too much what others might think of you.
The Rule in question then becomes .... Who is responsible for cleaning up the mess? 🐕💩🐩💩🐕💩🐕💩🐩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
Legendary Stuff
A "bloodline"? 3.8 billion years ago? Like when the first forms of life started evolving? What are you, a proud microorganism?
Mom always said I look like the trilobite side of the family
Load More Replies...There are less than 25,000 wild lions in Africa today, down from 200,000 in 1900 due to selfish and stupid humans hunting them. Many lions today are suffering from inbreeding due to a lack of breeding stock. There are EIGHT BILLION humans, the idea that there is a "shortage" is utterly laughable at a time when natural resources we use in industry and farming are running out.
If you knew my mother's family, you'd agree with me that sh!t should have ended centuries ago.
Yeah, my catholic mother said that we were meant to populate the earth. Screw that. I do not want to be populating just because she read that in a book
Load More Replies...Cardiovascular systems have only been present in organisms for the last 600 million years. But go ahead and pull a number out of your a*s.
see: I am one of three full siblings. None of us have kids (as for my brother: as far as we know)... these genes and that level of damaged will not be missed 60 years from now.
Then we have the argument of I didn’t ask to be born. It is generally accepted to ask someone for permission, but how do you do that with someone who won’t even be able to make decisions until several years into their life?
The answer in the eyes of the antinatalist is to not even impose that choice by not creating that situation. But it does make you think.
Truth
Life shouldn't be a grudge match in that if it sucked for me, it darned well better suck for you too
"I don't hit my kid. I have friends who say, 'what do you mean, you don't hit her? you gotta hit her! we got hit, when we were kids, remember? we got hit!' Then I have to have that awkward conversation where I explain that WE are not what I am aiming for." - Keith Lowell Jensen
I once attended a meeting regarding an issue in the public schools. They were basically adopting guidelines to help navigate bullying, etc. in dealing with a specific marginalized group. This one girl got up to speak. She had graduated high school a year or two before. She was there to speak out against the guidelines because, "I was bullied through school, and no one helped me, so why should we help them?" I was just stunned by that attitude. That was back in 2017ish and I still can't wrap my head around her words.
What the hell???!!! We should all hope that things are better for the people that come along after we do. Just because you suffered should not mean the suffering should continue on into the future
Load More Replies...The Dream
It it a better goal than, "I will have 2 kids then try and figure out how to make the tax payers foot the bill so I don't have to work."
Reminds me of a joke from the book of jokes I had as a kid. "I wish I had enough money to buy a lion." "Why do you want a lion?" "I don't. I just want enough money to buy one."
Admirable, but be sure to subtract the cost of "free labor" .... washing dishes, mowing the lawn etc.
"free labor" ... washing dishes . . . there will be more dishes to wash.
Load More Replies...Is This What Republicans Want To Return To? Life Before Roe V Wade:
So fcking sad, and all caused by the removal of agency over their own bodies
Can't remove something they never had to begin with
Load More Replies...If you don’t let people have abortions, you drive them to other options.
I'm shocked. Is it so common? That's why we need a right to abortion. Because every child deserves to be wanted.
Look up twisted minds. There was one nurse that took the unwanted kids and ended up killing about 200 babies
Load More Replies...2000 years ago, it was normal practice in Europe to abandon babies in forests and leave them to die.
Anti-abortionists arguing that abortion bans will save lives. No, dude. They will just make sure that abortion becomes more dangerous and painful, or that the baby’s life is short and painful.
Lastly, some argue that there is an axiological asymmetry—the concept of good things and bad things not always having the same and opposing consequences when they are considered as existing or not existing—between good and bad things. With that logic, coming into existence by means of procreation always turns out to be a harmful thing.
Congratulations Its A Tony
I’m a bit worried about my parents because I don’t really want kids and they’re fine with that but they’ve made several “jokes” about how my little brother better get busy then because they want some grandkids. And it’s weird because they’re very cool about almost everything.
Yeah, I purposely didn't have kids because I would never leave my mom with a child over night nor my dad holding one for 5 minutes. Neither have been charged with anything but I don even trust them with pet sitting, especially my dad who I'm now NC. He loved animals but did not know how to properly care for them.
I told my breeders, "Then you should have had another kid." They already had FOUR from my female sibling, the one they forced into a shotgun wedding after she got pregnant.
The Breeding To Child Abuse Assembly Line
I am not grateful to my parents for food and lodging. I am grateful for the love and respect they show me - and the books, the story telling, and general fun I had in my childhood.
No reason you can't be grateful for both. I appreciate the effort my parents went to to keep a roof over our heads and keep us all fed and clothed.
Load More Replies...THIS. I was adopted, which means my parents jumped through a LOT of hoops to get me, yet I was treated as a burden for needing to be provided the legal minimum (food, shelter, clothing) a parent has to provide for a child. Besides the fact that it is NOT a child's job to give their parent positive reinforcement, you don't get brownie points for providing the bare minimum to someone that you brought into the world and into your home.
I remember my parents being abusive af. Myself and my sisters all had severe depression and could barely function in our teenage years. All of us dropped out (2 have gone on to be doctors and we all got our diplomas, eventually) because we just couldn't take our terrible lives anymore. Then when we were 17-18, out the door. Myself I got told to not come home one day in December when it was -20 C outside. The kicker is the regular, "I did my best" or "I had it worse when I was your age" comments from them. You did less than the legally required minimum, eat s**t
Yeah, food, shelter, clothing. Is that the only reason you had kids, to just provide these three things? What about loving the child and nurturing them. Why have kids if you don't want to offer more than those bare minimums.
The Only Victim When A Child Is Born, Is The Child. Period
And if had consensual unprotected sex, you planned for the possibility of a child. (where biology allows the creation of a child).
Explain that to a couple of teenagers in the back seat of a car.
Load More Replies...I disagree with the not being a victim part. Having a severely disabled or severely mentally ill child can be so hard to deal with. If your kid needs around the clock care, there's a lot of parents who get a burnout. And those parents are definitely the victims of life, because sometimes life sucks.
Nah, no one is guaranteed to make it to adulthood.
Load More Replies...My child has developed several types of health problems and I do everything I can to advocate for her. I wish I could take it all away, but I wouldn't trade her for the world because she is awesome. You don't get to pick. If you choose to give birth, you take it all and you love them, period.
As someone who is probably not your daughter, but speaking from the position of the child: thank you so much. Without your advocacy I would be in much worse of a position. Thank you. It means so much.
Load More Replies...We adopted our son from a Russian orphanage 25 years ago this year. Even though he was supposedly "healthy", we knew there was a good possibility he was going to have issues of some sort (and he does). You need to be prepared to accept that if you're going to be a parent.
Rape. Forced incest. Child molestation, resulting in children. You damned well are the victim, and taking away choice without proviso for situations like these, just supercharges the victimization.
That last argument can be extended to include a more global reasoning.
One of the bigger arguments is sustainable population. This, of course, refers to the idea that the Earth can support so much until it becomes unable to provide enough to people to live, let alone thrive.
Mine just goes to my moms where they are very happily entertained, win-win for both of us. She does want grandkids but I’ve made it clear it’s not in my agenda. Now she calls my two cats her “grand-cats”.
Load More Replies...Sounds like "tuggywuggy" has spent a lot of time trying to convince himself that he is not miserable.
Living your best life is not the sign of a failed human life. It's kinda the opposite.
Not gonna lie, back in the day I totally wanted to go see the Wiggles live. It would have been a blast. I did get to see Yo Gabba Gabba.
They didn't say they left their kids without a sitter while in Italy, sheesh.
Enough Said
I feel for that Columbine Survivor. Can you even imagine the children of Sandy Hook or Uvalde when they become old enough to make that choice as well? Maybe (hopefully) things will be different by then.
How do you think it will be different in a few years. I mean that as a real question, because looking from Europe, I see absolutely nothing being done that would help, like adequate psychological help, except for making songs to help normalize hiding in the dark and companies profiting by designing collapsible bulletproof shelters that double as a blackboard wall when not in use...
Load More Replies...The kids that survived the thousands of school shootings are starting to vote, and they're not fooled. They'll vote against anyone that opposes gun control.
Just because some children were able to get over the trauma, doesn't mean they all did.
The Columbine survivors are old enough to be parents now, and absolutely nothing has changed. Nothing. The deaths of those children changed nothing. This infuriates me beyond all expression.
I'm right there with you Tamra. So much so, that when Uvalde happened, I had to leave work, I couldn't take it anymore. For context, I never leave work, I am always at work, never using all my pto. but this sh-it breaks me.
Load More Replies...I Mean... She Said What We Are All Thinking
I read that as “stop having children you can’t eat” . I must be hungry 😂
Polar bears. If the mother can't find enough food, she'll eat her babies.
Load More Replies..."I've got no option but to sell you all for scientific experiments... God has blessed us so much, I can't afford to feed you anymore...me mind's made up. I've given this long and careful thought, and it has to be medical experiments for the lot of you." - Monty Python's Meaning of Life
"We care for the lives of the pre born. Once born, f**k them all." that's precisely it.
Absolutely! Or maybe the damn condom ripped. There are so many reasons why people come into this kind of situation that I don't think it's ours to judge. As long as the parents don't spend their money on cigarets and booze rather then on food. Why were you downvoted?
Load More Replies...I really dislike this. We have no idea about her actual situation. Could as well be she could indeed feed them when she had them but fell on bad luck. Shaming people for having children is just as bad as shaming them gor not having them. And if you see a child in need, you better help and don't mock the parents. This is horrible
Not horrible at all. It's impossible to verify and it's no one's responsibility but the parent's to take care of their own children, which can include getting on public assistance, applying for jobs, going to food banks, contacting churches on their own, et cetera. If they actually do have a child (or children) hopefully they have managed to locate the assistance they need. There are agencies that will help far more than e-begging. It is no one's responsibility to PayPal, CashApp, Venmo, Skrill, Zelle, whatever someone money online just because they claim to have kids.
Load More Replies...They might be the wife of a radical Christian Republican who believes birth control is a sin.
Food banks. Food pantries. Donate your blood/plasma for money. Food stamps. WIC. Soup kitchen. Local charities.... Imagine having the tech to send this post, but not using it to Google your local resources.
How do we know that every town in every English speaking country has such charities? Or that there aren't reasons why she isn't eligible to get help from them? And in some countries you can't get money for donating blood/plasma, I think the UK is one of those, but I'm not sure.
Load More Replies...I disagree entirely. It's a form of online begging, the respondant is not judgy and everyone is sick of seeing people post things on social media (social media is s**t anyway, but who cares?) begging in a roundabout way.
Load More Replies...Sustainable population estimates range from 650,000 to 9.8 billion, with 8 billion (with 8.1 being the current global population as of this article) being the average of what most think is sustainable.
This, of course, has an impact on how climate change and other Earth-focused issues might be affected on top of sustainability. This is besides the question of how much would be enough to stabilize the planet’s ecosystems?
Actually If You Need Kids To Feel Successful, You’re The Problem
Respectfully, I disagree to an extent. Kids are not f~~k trophies either, they're living, sentient little human beings.
Load More Replies...I loved being a mom, stuck in the house, playing with my girls and the other kids around us, all adults now. But I totally understand other people's choice not to have kids and respect their reasons why. While I would LOVE to have a grandchild, the world is a heavy place now. Life is a struggle. I love my unborn grandchildren enough to not need to meet them here and can wait for Heaven
Exactly
I know someone who used to do meth and stuff and when she got pregnant she immediately stopped and cleaned up her act but I wouldn't say it was the child that changed her, just the specific thing that happened at that time that pushed her to change. To tell your child they are your Savior.... That's a lot of pressure like they ain't Jesus
"honestly" sounds like some sh!t coming from an anti-choice person trying one more way to prevent abortion.
Yeah, frankly without more context I see nothing wrong with her post. If anything the reply is bloody obnoxious. But again, there is no more context... are they in a pro-life discussion? Was her comment in a family chat? Or a friends chat or what?
Load More Replies...Finally The Truth
I mean, if they believe it's murder they could think they'd go to hell for it. (I'm atheist and prochoice btw, so I don't agree with this logic)
Load More Replies...I kid you not, there are Chritians who believe aborted fetuses go to "Limbo".. a special purgatory... not Heaven or Hell. That's the kind of psycho most of these people worship. That's why nothing anybody says gets through to them.
Their reason being, because the babies haven't been baptised.
Load More Replies...I was about to comment: WHO THE F CARES, WE CAN READ THE CENSOR!!!
Load More Replies...i cant speak for other religions, but in my ex cult (no longer a member, solid atheist now) we were taught that miscarried/aborted, born sleeping babies or kids who werent old enough to comprehend jesus/god did not go to heaven. that when Jesus came back they would be resurrected on earth and have to endure the same trials and tribulations as others before all evil is wiped out forever. and that most of them would not pass the test. so for them having a baby that passed in utero or shortly thereafter was not a good thing.
My preacher (baptist) might be the exception, he is pro-choice and I just found this out which made me even happier to be in that church.
that's really nice! i love hearing about sensible churches.
Load More Replies...This is how I was taught in my church. If a child or fetus isn't given a chance for its soul to be saved it gets into heaven anyway. I don't believe in God but if I did he wouldn't be w***y nilly tossing babies into hell.
Lastly, if we’re thinking about it in simple terms, not everyone truly wants to burden themselves with the vast amounts of responsibility that having kids entails. Financial, social and cultural, structural, moral and ethical—all of this multiplied by three given the current state of the economy, ecology, and world order in general. Nobody needs that stress.
My mum started at me not long after my. 16th birthday about wanting grandkids. I have never wanted kids, she finally stopped talking about them when I was about 32. I have problems, I am overweight, I have mental health troubles and I am a diabetic. There is a history of cancer in my family, my father, Uncle and at least one aunt, all on my fathers side all died of cancer. Why would I want pass my genes on knowing all this?
I fired a therapist for making a comment about my kids having kids. I was trying to talk about how I was struggling with them getting older--simply because I just miss all the firsts, and the fun/wonder of them being little. I love who they have become, but I wanted a way to not dwell on the past so much. Her solution? "Well, look on the bright side. This just means you're that much closer to having grandkids." First--I don't really see how that would solve my problem at all. Second--my kids shouldn't have to have kids so that my problems can be fixed. Third--my adult kids are nowhere near having kids (the oldest has stated she probably won't ever), and I fully support that. It was such a dismissive thing to say, and a huge assumption to make.
I am amazed that a therapist would state that babies are a means to fixing anything! That is not only completely incorrect, but SO dangerous to perpetuate. Yikes. I'm glad you gave them the boot. I fired mine when they asked me what the point of seeking an ADHD diagnosis for myself and deeply struggling kid would be; those are inside thoughts, and therapists are supposed to be trained in objective arms length interaction.
Load More Replies...I knew a guy who got himself snipped precisely because he felt his genes shouldn't be passed on. I agree - he was a world class a*****e.
I'm so grateful my parents have never pulled the "when are you having kids?!?" BS with me.
Thank goodness that my parents couldn't give less of a sh*t about whether I have kids and are just proud of my actual accomplishments.
Lmfao
I've always hated this response from people. Like, well, I'm here now, so quit with the dumb "What if". Sometimes, I caught myself thinking: "Well, if yours hadn't had you, there would be one less person I'd have to hear this b******t from." -.-
My mother once mentioned that she regrets having had kids and I said "sometimes so do I. It would solve all my problems"
Screaming
I struggled with infertility for 16 years. Did I also believe in a woman's right to abortion? Bet your a*s I did.
Would you make a smart a*s comment to another person who said they can't have kids that they should get giant, "infertile" earrings though? That last comment from Clown is pretty horrible.
Load More Replies...Unsure I'd have earrings like that, not because I'm sensitive, they just look goofy 🤪
And the irony is she says "of her own." So not willing to foster or adopt...imagine that.
This isn't stated anywhere that she isn't willing to adopt. The post is about abortion and, in all fairness, you can only have an abortion of your very own child.
Load More Replies...Sorry, but the sheer size of those just makes me wince... I couldn't wear anything even half that size without a constant headache.
So because you can't have children other women have to have children? THAT makes me sick
Whatever the case, it’s a choice and everyone’s free to make it. So, please choose your takes and stories on the matter in the comment section below.
Either that, or choose to take a gander at another similar article we’ve discussed in the past.
It Do Be Like That
Yes, in bad relationship, thinking having a baby will make things better. I can think of another use for that miracle tape. And it is not gonna be comfortable
Same Here
Yeah, if I had to make the decision again now I wouldn't have kids. Mine are teens and I'm totally crippled with anxiety over their future lives and quite rightly as society probably only got another 50-100 years before total apocalypse so yeah not a good time period to create more people to suffer.
As a teenager back in the 60s and aware of the overpopulation problem, I figured that I should only have one child; a replacement for me. Then my older siblings each had two children. There went my plan, I was already more than replaced. Then I met the love of my life. She had a son. Good enough for me, I raised him with her and called it good. He's a fine man.
That Would Have Been Pretty.. Pretty.. Pretty Sweet
I wouldn't have a conversation with a brain-dead moron about my body autonomy.
Not looking to die, but the idea of reincarnation or any form of "coming back" REALLY exhausts me.
That would have saved me a s**t ton of suffering! - brought to you by an accidental child
It would have saved me from suffering with crappy parents, since I was a mistake (my mom blamed me for her not getting into stewardess school and for her being stuck in a crappy marriage [dad blamed me for that as well]).
Load More Replies...I would feel that the world as a whole would be better without my presence.
These F**ks Hate Women And They Aren't Even Trying To Hide It Anymore
A little backstory: she went in for medication for cluster headaches. IYKYK. Anyway, the neurologist straight up told her it might interfere with the fetus... if she ever got pregnant. She said if that had zero plans for kids and if she did get pregnant she'd opt for an abortion. He doubled down and said that things were getting trickier on that and that she needed to bring her partner in on the conversation before deciding something like that. She currently has a lawsuit open against the hospital network for discrimination under the ACA's anti-discrimination provisions and the Anti-discrimination Act for prioritizing an imaginary fetus that doesn't even exist over herself.
This poor woman. Cluster headaches are supposed to be one of the most painful, debilitating conditions out there.
Load More Replies...When I was 17, I desperately needed Accutane for very painful cystic acne. All they did was notify my mother and me of the possible birth defects of I got pregnant, then put me on birth control. Every month I got blood tests and had to confirm that I was taking my BC pills with condoms as a backup (they wouldn't take my abstinence as a form of birth control). Give this poor woman her meds and start her on birth control if it makes you feel better. Yeesh. In a perfect world, she would have her meds without jumping through all the hoops, but until that time arrives, figure something else out besides the "bring your partner with you to talk about your body" argument.
Not cystic acne, but wanted Accutane. The doctor would only give me a half dose (useless) because I was in my 20s and might get pregnant even though I assured him I wasn’t sexually active, if I were I’d go on the pill, plus I didn’t want children and wouldn’t have the kid even if I did get pregnant. But what did I know. It was just my life.
Load More Replies...if I had the money I'd buy her the medication myself, I don't care how illegal it is
Sorry, you're of childbearing age! We can't give you chemo, that might hurt any baby!!
F~~king mengeles with penises should NOT be deciding or controlling women's health care. Look up Gretchen Molannen and how "doctors" treated her, didn't take her problems seriously and what happened to her. Whether it's migraines, fibromyalgia, endometriosis, or one of many conditions that affect women, male butchers (so-called "doctors") don't care as long as women's bodies are available for male pleasure and orgasm. [ https://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/gretchen-molannens-legacy-suffering-suicide-and-a-journalists/2154587/ ]
https://www.jezebel.com/woman-with-severe-chronic-pain-was-denied-medication-fo-1849569187
For Real
To be fair, they were having 8kids because some would die, they may not have had access to birth control, or they had 8 to help with the farm or whatever business, or to help raise the other 7 kids.
Or there'd been a war that took out a massive portion of the male population and the government was actively saying "have babies!"
Load More Replies...We Know A Thing Or Two Because We've Seen A Thing Or Two
Myself/hubby 1 kid and she called me selfish for not giving my kid a sibling.. her my ex friend has 5 kids and 3 in care/2 living with family members
Good she is an ex friend! Poor kids though :( I hate this sibling pressure :/
Load More Replies...Im a mother of 3 and told my oldest (24 who I had at 18 and no I do NOT recommend!!) to hold off on having children. Enjoy your life, travel, experience things, then if you in the feels to have a kid when you're like 30? Go for it, if not? I'm ok with being the grandma of a doggo.
Same. 27? That is still so young. I was 26 when I had my oldest and THAT is young but everyone in my family was all, "It's about damn time." Every woman on my mom's side going back generations had a baby by age 19. I was the first to wait so long. Of my two female cousins--one also waited til mid 20s, and the other decided not have any. We broke the chain. I met my husband at 19. I'm grateful we had several years together before we deiced to have kids. I always tell my kids, bond with your partner, give yourselves years of just the two of you before throwing a baby into the mix. Right now none of my kids think they want kids--and that is cool too. I would love to be a doggo grandma.
Load More Replies...I'm not at all a fan of eugenics or similar practices, but the state of today's world makes me think that there should be at least SOME basic assessment for people who want to reproduce.
If we were able to implement such a system in a fair/unbiased way, without abuse by those in power, we probably wouldn't need it, though. Maybe we could do incentives for people that take parenting/child development classes?
Load More Replies...If someone is suffering with deep emotional issues, she should not be forced to have a baby. People with deep emotional issues might be more prone to unplanned pregnancy due to situations she gets into.
Thinking You Can't Love Someone As Much As Your "Own" Child Is Such Nonsense
As someone who was raised by two magnificent women, while being absolutely not blood-related to one of them, I say they don't.
I'm currently pretty much decided I don't want my own children, but I'm fairly open to adopting one. What I often hear is "You won't love it as much as you'd love your own!" Like... wtf? Family is about love, not genes. IMO people who say this care more about their ego and their bloodline than the child itself.
We have two dear friends who adopted. Never have I seen children who are more loved and cherished.
Load More Replies...I don't have my mom's genes but she raised me all the same, and people believe we're actually related. She's a pain in my posterior but I love her all the same.
My dad isn't my biological father, but he's more of a dad than my biological father ever was, and I love him to death.
why do so many people in the world think their opinion matters? stop having opinions and let people live...
My Kids Will Surely Cure Cancer
No License Needed To Make Babies
If the government thought they could get away with charging for a baby license I'm sure they would. Besides, they already make a killing on taxes related to baby products :P
Oops!
anyone else think the person holding the baby is holding on too tight???
Overpopulation isn't as big of a problem as resource distribution. We could easily feed all the people of Earth and much more, if capitalism didn't force us to throw away perfectly good food just because it can't be sold for profit.
Load More Replies...A collapsing birth rate is THE BEST THING that can happen to the environment. Population collapse is inevitable, and a negative birth rate is the LEAST painful way compared to the others (environmental collapse, war, starvation/famine, disease, etc.).
The one that really gets me is racist/conservative/religious boomers going on about how "we" need to have more kids because "they're" starting to outnumber us. And then they start spewing replacement/religious bigotry. Too bad y'all were so toxic no one will follow in your footsteps
Unfortunately, I think it's more of an 'Idiocracy' situation happening.
elon mush claims that more people means more people who might find a cure for cancer. Well, the funds for education would be better put to use with LESS childen. Teachers would not be so stretched thin, overworked, and not supported enough. The better an education a child gets, the more likely they can go on to better things, like finding a cure for cancer. (plus there's the thing about polution caused by more people that leads to cancer)
Just Saying... I Agree. I Mean Have People Seen Our Species?
Same. I believe the world would be better off without our species. I mean, no other species has harmed the planet the way we did (and are)...
I'm not advocating suicide here, but frankly people who say this are hypocrites because they keep on living. Anyone *genuinely* serious about it would already be gone. Besides, while we have undoubtedly damaged the ecosystem, we also have the capacity to repair it. So rather than advocating for extinction, how about advocating for positive action on climate change, planting more trees, cutting pollution, reducing consumerism etc.
Load More Replies...The sex drive is such a strong life force. Thousands of years of religion's dogma have not been able to get non married people to stop having sex. Humans will probably survive any apocalyptic event and continue to reproduce. They will probably even be having sex during the apocalyptic event.
fun fact, if every single person stopped ahving babies right now, we would be extinct in 100-110 years (i know some live to 114, but i doubt any one would want to if they was the last old fart around)
Less than that because the 100 year olds wouldn't be able to care for themselves well enough to survive. Who is going to farm for example. Or work in the power plants?
Load More Replies...Kitten fixes the issues, fur babies are 100% better
Load More Replies...And why exactly is this stupid? it is not. As a severely ill person who was abused by blood relatives I find it legit question. My parents can sue me for financial support, because that's what law and society expects from a child of old folks - to give them support or money or both. I as an adult over 18, severely ill, who was never offered full time normal paying job, cannot sue them for money support because I am adult and I should manage. Well I do not. Society forbids me from it. Capitalism does not allow it. What do I do? And why is it stupid? they made me - let em pay my bills then.
Load More Replies...Hopeful Living
I Have Never Felt A Meme More
I often think about how freakin' sinister the phrase "earn a living" is.
And to make it worse: our hourly wage is what we're worth. Take someone making $15/hr. They're giving an hour of their already limited time, spending hours +/- 5 days/wk around ppl they are meh about, just to get 15 pieces of paper an hour. Their work, time, physical/emotional health, etc is worth 15 pieces of paper for each hour. And it's not even high quality paper. It's thin, dirty af, crumpled up, some ppl get killed for their pieces of paper, etc. So.... How many pieces of paper are you worth each hour at your job?
Load More Replies...you have to work to get beer? like is this psychologist even trying? you gotta play into their demons.
I always thought that when people don't want to work, they just want to bang on the drum all day
It's Truly A Mental Disease At This Point
You don't need to get pregnant you need to get out of that marriage and fast.
Until I read your comment, I hadn't even thought that it could be satire. Now, I can only hope that it is!
Load More Replies...It's a fantastic cry for help (hopefully). Everybody else will know what it really means while her POS boy will think more highly of himself.
Load More Replies...This is why I cut them off over 20 years ago. Never contacted them again, only tracked them to make sure they don't know where I live. When they died, I felt relief, not "regret" or "remorse".
In fairness, that would be a LOT less trauma. I was shooting more for giving my kids 10% of my trauma. That seems more attainable.
great so i'll pass on 25% to mine, they'll pass on 12.5% to theirs, who'll pass on 6.25% to theirs, and so on an so forth until we circle back to 100% trauma.
There was another thread here in the last few days about cringe words and actions. "Trauma" was one of them. Unless this person is saying their parents (and be inference the grandparents) were actually abusive this is BS.
Parents teach you to stand and fight for your beliefs until these beliefs are different than theirs.
ALL kids are smaller versions of their parents. Good, and bad kids. You can always see and hear their parents in the way they talk and act. Even "bad" or "troublesome" kids you can almost always see behaviour that's a direct copy of their parents.
Noooo, you need to get multiple perspectives. Me: I did, that was how I reached this conclusion. Parents:REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Simple As That
My soul would just go to another meat suit if I was to be alive in this time and plane.
If reincarnation turns out to be real, I want to come back as a Toyota Camry. They last forever.
Load More Replies...This Guy Gets It
Who has to go through the problems earlier generations created and actual generations seem to ignore ignore enough to let it burn.... Poor kids. I have a hard time to express joy for newborns in my friends circle. Our gift to the kids is a planted tree in their name but it's only a small sign of hope and nothing more I fear
More Like "I'm Not Happy But My Kids Will Make Me Happy"
So far this is true for my kids! They don't need to know what I am going through. My job is to care and nurture them, not make them my therapist, nor include them in my problems. I was abused as a child, you best believe I'm breaking that mold!
Maybe not when they're little & don't understand. As they get older & learn more, I think it's okay to start telling them more. Now that I'm an adult, my mom is sharing some of the stuff she went through. Not only does it make me apreciate her more, I also have the capability and willingness to help her.
Load More Replies...This is precious!! Can’t decide if this lady is jealous, cranky or just unsure. If only people at DW were the ones with kids, then how would she ever expect to skip ‘ALL THE LINES’ 🤔
I never wanted to go to DW... but strangely now I do...with all the non parents I know
I'm not a fan of DW either, but I think it is funny how she is upset at adult buying "useless c**p" will bring joy to Aiden
Load More Replies...So it wasn't that the slutty woman took the last mickey mouse pretzel from "Poor Aiden's mouth", but more so mom didn't want to wait in line? Got it
I am proud to be hated by this excuse of a human being. Everything tastes better mickey shaped! Also, there is more than one place to get a Mickey pretzel and they do NOT research how to be efficient in the park. There are even parent swap lines/single rider for adults taking turns riding rides if the kids cant'/don't want to ride. Unfortunately, this is truly "they are just jealous"
Came Across This. Poor Daughter
Mother of the year with her lovely words like Stuck raising two babys and calling her older daughter selfish 🤯
Hey, don't bring Gen X into your madness, lady. We practically raised ourselves, and I have no intention in placing pressure on younger generations to procreate. F**k right off with your ancestral karma.
The rest of Gen X officially bans you from our generation you ridiculous psycho!
If Only
We Are Only Going Backwards
The only solution to rightwingnuts demanding forced birth for women is forced vasectomy for males.
and let an untrained woman who was forced to give birth do it to him
Load More Replies..."Well the fetus is clearly septic and is causing you complete organ failure, but it has an 0.000000001% chance of survival so you're just going to have to grin and bear it!"
Forced To Live And In Need Of Money
The Entitlement And Lack Of Self Awareness Is Overwhelming
‘Especially MY kid’!!! Am glad the 20 year old had the maturity to understand the responsibilities that comes with child-bearing; is aware of and is choosing the available options.
Yes his child now that's a 24/7 responsibilitie anyway he goes about it
Load More Replies...Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, the "100% against abortion" guy drops the "unless disabled" bomb. Looks like he's got enough mental problems himself. F***wit.
Magical forced-birther thinking -- that women will instantly turn into a "loving mother".
Man, what a d**k. When me and my ex got together, I made it clear from the start that if an accident were to happen despite using protection, I would get rid of it, with or without his consent, because having kids simply is not for me at all. He understood and said he'd support me all the way. I still loathe him, but at least in this regard, he was more sensible than this sad soul.
This guy is going to be a total dogsh*t father. "I don't want that responsibility 24/7" LOL, good luck with that, Skeezix.
Ok Boomer
Ugh
"If you won't respect me as an authority, I won't treat you as a living person".
OK, she gave her food, that's one of the three necessities. Did she also provide a roof over her head and clothing? (and I do think Love should be in there somewhere)
"Maybe My Child Will Cure Cancer"
anyone who says that forgets the other side of the coin - maybe they'll grow up to be another Jeffrey Dahmer.
so could all of the lgbt kids that you made feel were useless for being lgbt and will now never do anything important in life could've also cured cancer.
The rightwingnut males that want to make women breeding machines want to take away women's rights to vote and have an education. The first women went to university around the 1880s. How many inventions and discoveries were lost before that because women were denied education due to forced birth?
Nearly 50% Of Teens Say They Don't Enjoy Life
Kids are smart, and they have access to information that most didn't when I was that age. They know what rightwingnuts, fanatical religious freaks, and capitalists have done to the world. Small wonder they're depressed.
It Be Like That Sometimes
but a child will save this relationship! Yeah, let me know how that works out for you.
Thanks For This Life
I recommend gardening. I live in an apartment, but the balcony allows me to have a little garden of sorts. Blueberries, strawberries, raspberries and diverse beautiful plants that bring me joy. They're my green family (hopefully to be expanded by two kitties someday) ♥ (and as a bonus, spiders like to make their webs amongst my plants - y'know, mainly cross spiders. I call them my "spider friends" ^^)
All My Homies Are Anti-Natalist
On the other hand, there's nothing more soul-crushing than talking to a nihilist.
Oh Boy
Sounds like she should have taken a closer look at the financial impact a child brings before having one.
When You Don't Care About Your Kids
if the guy in the background is the oldest kid, that face sums it up very well
I had my first at 23 and my second at 40. She does babysit her sister if I ASK (always a choice) and I try not to make it more than an hour. I had a baby not her.
Off topic but those filters are giving me super uncanny valley. Ick ick ick.
Elon Musk's Opinion On Reproducing In The Face Of Climate Change
I can't stand stand this man and refuse to listen to the s**t that spews from his mouth.
I hope users added context to this tweet or x or whatever, listing the times he has made wrong predictions in the past.
Thanks Doc
It’s Giving Breeder Boomer
see this is why nobody wants to have children anymore, men are like THIS and then they refuse to look after Junior like mate, it's YOUR sperm
Seems like the type of dude who thinks women shouldn't play video games (Not anywhere close to the main point, but I got that impression)
If you don't know what the word "Mushroomstamp" means, I advise you not to look it up at work.
The Worst "Gift" I Have Ever Received
and then tell them they're in debt to you for providing this "miracle"
Elon Telling Women Accidental Birth Isn't That Bad
The fElon would legalize rape if he could. He wants to make breeding a requirement of voting rights.
elon mush is just f'ing crazy, and with all of the children he has, with different women, I think he's done enough
One of my proudest life decisions is to not have kids. Generation after generation of trauma handed down. I am the last of 8 pregnancies. Only 4 of us survived. My parents specifically kept trying until my father had a male heir to carry on the family name. They were terrible and abusive parents. The pain and suffering stops with me. The best part is I was fortunate enough to be born gay. I will be taking my husband's name when/if I get married. That plan brings me joy
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more posts like this! Too often still, parenthood is glorified, so this post was like a refreshing breeze. One little side note, though: Could these simply be refer to as "posts"? Because they sure aren't memes. (That's been bothering me for a while now on BP, no matter how much I love it.)
I'm shocked about the number of people in this thread who wish they wouldn't be alive. I became a mother, because I perceive life as a good thing. It's totally ok if people don't want to have children, I just never realized that this could be the reason for so many to not have them.
But what gives you the right to force life on soneone who never consented? Surely you aren't blind to the wreck of a planet we live on!
Load More Replies...I am still traumatised after reading the one about the woman at Disney World who was so upset about childless couples going there . . . . .
These are mixed ... some are valid reasons for people not wanting to have kids. Like ... just not wanting to. That's fine. Then there are thoses posts where you hope that persone is seeing a shrink because they're not "antinatalist", they're just plain suicidal.
You can be both. Antinatalism is also about the concept on forcing life on someone who never asked for it. Imagine having to deal with being alive and functioning in this world, while being depressed all because some people decided you should be here
Load More Replies...I still laugh when anyone asks "Don't you miss not having kids?" What? How can you miss a 3rd arm or leg when you never had it? And anyone I have met who has kids, and knows I am single with no kids, ALWAYS ask if I will sit with their kid. I'd actually sit with a dog or cat, but NEVER a kid. And they NEVER ask a man these questions!!!!
One of my proudest life decisions is to not have kids. Generation after generation of trauma handed down. I am the last of 8 pregnancies. Only 4 of us survived. My parents specifically kept trying until my father had a male heir to carry on the family name. They were terrible and abusive parents. The pain and suffering stops with me. The best part is I was fortunate enough to be born gay. I will be taking my husband's name when/if I get married. That plan brings me joy
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more posts like this! Too often still, parenthood is glorified, so this post was like a refreshing breeze. One little side note, though: Could these simply be refer to as "posts"? Because they sure aren't memes. (That's been bothering me for a while now on BP, no matter how much I love it.)
I'm shocked about the number of people in this thread who wish they wouldn't be alive. I became a mother, because I perceive life as a good thing. It's totally ok if people don't want to have children, I just never realized that this could be the reason for so many to not have them.
But what gives you the right to force life on soneone who never consented? Surely you aren't blind to the wreck of a planet we live on!
Load More Replies...I am still traumatised after reading the one about the woman at Disney World who was so upset about childless couples going there . . . . .
These are mixed ... some are valid reasons for people not wanting to have kids. Like ... just not wanting to. That's fine. Then there are thoses posts where you hope that persone is seeing a shrink because they're not "antinatalist", they're just plain suicidal.
You can be both. Antinatalism is also about the concept on forcing life on someone who never asked for it. Imagine having to deal with being alive and functioning in this world, while being depressed all because some people decided you should be here
Load More Replies...I still laugh when anyone asks "Don't you miss not having kids?" What? How can you miss a 3rd arm or leg when you never had it? And anyone I have met who has kids, and knows I am single with no kids, ALWAYS ask if I will sit with their kid. I'd actually sit with a dog or cat, but NEVER a kid. And they NEVER ask a man these questions!!!!
