35 Things That Sound Perfectly Normal Until You Realize How Dystopian They Are, As Listed Online
While there is progress in certain areas and certain things are better now than in previous historical times, the need to look out for the downside of various processes is undeniable and possibly more urgent than ever, for the simple fact that power becomes dangerous without developing one’s responsibility accordingly.
No wonder some of the mental or real-life pictures of the contemporary world can leave us feeling… dystopian. These can include the massive amount of non-nature-friendly trash being produced and dumped all around the world, or attempts to imagine the implications of AI on our near future if we don't take the necessary precautions to play it safe.
People online stepped up, trying to raise awareness, answering one Redditor's question: "What's something that is accepted as normal, but is really dystopian when you think about it?"
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Jailing people for stealing food while throwing away tons more every day.
Sell by and use by dates are guidelines that are considered law in many countries. There's no real health science behind it as most foods are absolutely fine until opened. Reduced sticker shopping is perfectly fine if you eat or freeze the product. If supermarkets don't sell it all they should be legally required, as in France, to donate it to food banks and shelters.
Best before is guidance, use by is that it starts to grow bacteria which may become dangerous. There is absolutely real science behind it, as companies do microbiological testing to identify when these changes begin to happen.
Load More Replies...On the same note, I was on the streets and just utterly shocked about how many houses are abandoned (mostly owned by banks/the government) while I didn't have amy safe place to stay. The ones intact usually get occupied illegally. Why not make special contracts with homeless people like me who are responsible and able to keep the place clean and safe until it gets rented/sold again... So sad.
That is such a great idea. I completely agree with you. I hope you are ok x
Load More Replies...In certain countries it is even forbidden to give your staff some left-overs to take home. (Thinks restaurant, bakery, grocery-shop etc.) It is considered tax-evasion, because you are 'paying wages in kind.'
Then stop giving the government the power to fine stores and people who want to give away food.
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US here give instead of trashing they get sick then you get sued.
I don't think we should throw away food. I think it is so wrong to do that. Donate it to a shelter let employees take it home. But they aways make up all kinds of excuses why they can not. And that pretty damn sad, when there starving families all over the world.
Advertiser friendly language in daily life. Like people getting used to not being able to say words like "dead" on Tiktok because advertisers don't like it, so then you see a bunch of people saying words like "unalive" in real life.
It does lead to some funny euphemisms tho, like "unsubscribed from life".
They missed this one though. But it would have killed the post b
Load More Replies...Nope. Not me. Screw the advertisers. I do have to say it's more jarring to hear weird sounds that cover "unfriendly" words throughout a whole true crime video. They've gotten to be unwatchable and unlistenable. "This guy *BOING* his girlfriend that night, just before he *HEEHAW* in the bathroom. When a neighbour went to check on the couple they saw *AWOOGA* and *BUCK BUCK BUCK* that he *MOOOOOOO* and *NEENAW NEENAW*"
Your still a person. Pushing up daisy's is a good one
Load More Replies...LOL. What kind of silly website would use words like "unalive" or censor dirty words. Can you imagine?
All of those "Feel good stories" about people working extra super duper hard just to barely scrape by.
"Kids make business to help another disabled child buy a wheelchair"
"Teacher runs out of PTO days fighting cancer so the whole school district started to donate sick days"
"Man walks 15 miles for a job interview, community raises money for a bicycle."
It’s honestly really depressing what people have to do to simply LIVE nowadays
And the rich will make things even worse until the people FIGHT BACK!
Load More Replies...And still some Americans do not realise that in the countries with so called "socialist healthcare" first two stories would never happen, and the man looking for job would probably take a bus.
I’m American and I would be happy to pay more in taxes if it meant everyone could have healthcare. I knew of a guy who had cancer and no insurance and he just worked until he died.He never sought treatment. They found him deceased in bed. He was 32.
Load More Replies...The idea that someone can have health insurance and still owe so much money that they need to have a GoFundMe page to help is a very strange concept to, for example, people in the U.K.
Yeah I choose to work 12 hour days so I have money 5 days out of the week instead of 3 ha ha
Working full-time for a wage that won't support a family.
A family?? How about 1 person.
When the people allowed business to take over the government what else would be expected?
I live in Spain and average salary here is about 1500€ while a flat costs 900€+expenses. Most people I know are forced to share a flat even in their late 30s... I ended up being homeless because I couldn't even afford a room anymore once prices skyrocket after Covid (600-700€ for a ROOM).
I really don't understand how this is allowed to happen. If the wage isn't enough, quit. I've heard of a specific example from the USA where workers were underpaid. All the locals quit, so they bussed in people from 50 km away, then they all quit, so they bussed in people from 150 km away, then they all quit. Then they bussed in people from Mexico, now they're all quitting. It takes time, but they have to increase their wages and improve working conditions. In an example from my country, doctors everwhere are rebelling about the low income straight from the Government, and charging customers more, enough more but not excessively more.
Yeah i work voluntary overtime just to have more money that still isn't enough. For just me.
Corporations being considered people and having more rights than real human beings.
Businesses shouldn't have religious beliefs. But Hobby Lobby apparently does.
Load More Replies...I will believe that a corporation is a person when the state of Texas executes one.
Lately, I've heard it called the Extreme Court. Unflippin' believable, that group of #^$&%*
Load More Replies...This is why we can't have nice things. Corporations are our vampire overlords.
Subscription for everything
Never being able to own anything online. Used to be, you paid for it once and it was yours. Now you can’t do that— and you’re paying the same amount every year that you used to pay to buy it and permanently own it outright.
I have a game app on my phone, sand something. You draw a line through the sand to let the multicolored balls run through. There are a few traps and cute things. With the gems, you can buy buildings on the beach, like a mini amusement park. That's it. The premium service offers no ads, more ball designs, and more buildings. All that for only $6.99 a WEEK!
My parents shun me for wanting to have dvds/blu rays for movies, because they say that streaming is superior. First of all, movies on streaming will be taken off after a year or so, and as someone who loves rewatching movies I don’t like that, and also streaming services are expensive and in today’s changing economy you never know when you will not be able to pay for that streaming service
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I subscribe to some games simply because I am a sucker for the ads for cheap junk. I used to spend more money on crappy junk than I do on the subscription, which is usually about $10/year. I don't play any of the big name games like WoW, Minecraft, etc.
Claiming drag queens are child predators, and ignoring all the abuse going on in the church, cause that, and all the new laws being proposed...seems kind of dystopian.
The anti-LGBTQ activism reminds me of the Satanic Panic 40 years ago, it is a big nothing burger but real people are getting hurt
I'm so scared for sex workers. It's getting so much worse for them
Load More Replies...This is the right wing's attempt to distract attention from all the real and important issues that make them look bad
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Of course, in the UK we have a tradition of pantomime, so even the most peculiar right-wing bellends aren't going "men in SKIRTS are going to F**K my LEGS unless WE DO SOMETHING!!!!" Yet.
There was a library near me that had a drag reading session once a week. Dozens of protesters showed up, but not one of them lived in the same area as the library or even went there as a patron. Everyone in the community thought it was great. The program was cancelled because of all the political posturing.
Nothing is going on in NY public LGBTQ+ event that isn't normally allowed at any other public event. If there are any "naked ladyboy" that happens to sneak past everyone, they are quickly scooped up and charged for public exposure (and more if there happened to be children present), just like if it were any other day and it was a hetero person. Absolutely no allowances like that are going on, nor is the community asking for that to be a right.
Load More Replies...It’s a costume. Men who dress up like women to entertain others. Not much different from having a clown entertain kids at a birthday party, letting them watch a kids’ TV show hosted by a guy in a big fluffy dog costume, or having your kids’ pictures taken with Snow White, Prince Charming, Mickey, Minnie, or Winnie the Pooh at Disneyland. You don’t know anything about the people wearing THOSE costumes, but it doesn’t bother you in the least. So, if you have no problem with THOSE costumed adults interacting with your kids at parties and amusement parks, how is a guy dressed flamboyantly like a woman reading Cinderella to your kids at the library any different?
Privatized-for-profit prisons, healthcare, and education.
Corporations and foreign entities buying up all of our land and housing.
Lack of Congressional term limits and self-oversight of Congress and Scotus.
2A absolutism.
Forced sex, forced birth, forced sterilization, and the medical community treating women as if being female is a "condition" while using male bodies as the standard.
Outlawing the act of collecting rainwater, while charging for the amount of runoff attributed to your property (my city has both of these).
It's illegal to collect rainwater? That's completely screwed up.
I'm terrified for my grandkids. I'm leaving enough insurance to pay off the house & told my daughter & grandson, DO NOT refinance or sell. At least you always have a roof over your head, and you can make minimum wage & still pay your bills.
I'm gen X and I still don't own a home. I wish I had prioritized buying a house as early as possible, rather than paying off debts. I would have been better off going into a profession straight out of HS and building equity, rather than paying for an education. I have a good job now, with good benefits, but I worry that even that won't be enough to support my family in my retirement. I can't afford a house, and I can't afford not to have a house. And, the situation is only getting worse for people younger than me. It's no wonder that people are living with their parents longer and longer, waiting longer to get married, longer to have kids. The rich just get richer, and everyone else struggles.
Load More Replies...The last one made me think. In Poland collecting rainwater is encouraged and even subsidized. You get money from government to built a collecting tank. Why would someone even think of prohibiting collecting water?
At least in the west, runoff is what makes it possible to farm. If the water is collected, it doesn't go to the rivers or soak into the underground reserves. Then the farmers don't have what they need to grow food.
Load More Replies...Being denied a certain medication that will make your life exponentially better because you're a female and your (future) husband might want kids and you can't run the risk of getting pregnant on this medication, despite telling the doctor you're single and never having kids. Also denying younger women sterilisation procedures.
And the problem with governments using contractors - every few years they change contractors & new staff must be trained. Aside from the costs of doing the work, the contractor has to make a profit. I don't know why people think businesses run things more efficiently than corporations. I've worked for governments & contractors, and the bigger the organization, the less efficient it is.
Right? Many self insured health plans will pay for Viagra, but not birth control (looking at you Chik fil E, Hobby Lobby). So, they'll pay for a guy to get it up, but not to make sure the woman he's using it with doesn't get pregnant. Did'ya ever bother to run a cost comparison of birth control versus a full term (hopefully, with no complications) pregnancy of OB/GYN visits & prenatal care, hospital birth (again, providing no complications) and then 18 years of medical/dental care? Yeah, didn't think so. Misogynistic motherf*ckers.
Where is it outlawed to collect rainwater? Here in France many people who have vegetable gardens do this.
Colorado and Utah. In Colorado its in their laws. Someting to do with "Prior Appropriation" This from the Washington Post.. water-righ...9c-png.jpg
RBS due to people choosing to work from home. I don't understand why the government can't concert this to housing for the homeless.
Homelessness in countries with enough money to keep it from happening
Homelessness is a complicated matter, though, and is not always caused by not having money. Some people make themselves homeless, while others have become homeless based on their lifestyle and consequences. There are people out there who want to be homeless. They don't view paying rent, having their own home to go to every night as a worthy thing.
“Complicated” doesn’t even begin to describe the problem …
Load More Replies...Even beyond that, the very idea of homeless veterans is disturbing. They usually can't work due to trauma from serving the country that abandoned them at the first opportunity.
Yeah, same in the UK. And we have more houses standing empty than we do homeless people. How does that make sense?
Load More Replies...Los Angeles’s new mayor, Karen Bass, had a survey done; a certain number of homeless said they don’t want to be housed. The homeless problem won’t be solved until the homeless themselves agree to participate (I recognize that many of the homeless are homeless because they can’t afford housing. Mayor Bass is doing everything possible to get them housed).
FYI, San Francisco's current budget includes ~$660 million to help the homeless. Turns out that's enough to provide housing for less than half the homeless population. To get them all housed for a year would require closer to $1.4 BILLION. For a single city. This is larger than the national budget of 77 countries. The idea that this problem can be fixed with money is seriously flawed.
Mental illness plays a very big role in homelessness in wealthy countries. As pointed out above, it's complicated, I've met someone who was mentally healthy, well fed, but enjoyed sleeping outside. Another isn't homeless but never pays their rent so keeps getting kicked out of accommodation after accommodation. Another is a sqatter who breaks into vacant houses to live there rent free for a time. Another lived in their car all the time despite having a home with paid rent. And there are the couch surfers, who like the sociability of sleeping at friends places.
COUGH COUGH United States COUGH COUGH (and I’m not saying the US is the only country with this issue)
Imagine if our douchebag gazillionnaires gave a sh*t about anything but their own egos? We could have affordable housing, great jobs and a no-kill shelter in every county!
The existence of billionaires whilst so many people are living in poverty. Justified cause they supposedly "work harder" or "earned it".
I know of one billionaire that indeed did earn it, by providing joy to millions. Sir Paul McCartney! There may be a FEW others. I don't THINK Paul got his riches by exploiting the lower classes and stepping on the necks of others in a mad rush for cash like most billionaires. I hope I am right!
Or using unfair business practices like monopolies and being able to pay for laws in their favor
Load More Replies...I don't think there's anyone who still believes they worked harder or earned it.
To sound completely naive I’ll just say, it’s disgusting that people drench themselves with and wallow in more money they could ever possibly spend while at the same time babies are being born in dirt and die days later from starvation and malnutrition. Gee can anyone help?
They say it's their money, they can do whatever they want with it, they earned it. Nooo, no, no. No one has that much money and "earned" it. You don't get that rich without stepping on other people. The stole it, they didn't earn it.
sorry, but no one works hard enough to be a billionaire unless they are finding a cure for cancer, or the like
And then putting these rich people on tv to show off their incredibly privileged and Uber wealthy lifestyles that young people watch and then believe that being famous and wealthy is something to aspire to,
Ads everywhere you look 24/7
And some mpeople actively ranting about "If you block ads the internet will die, all your favorite content makers will starve and there will be no fun in the world".
Yeah, but then see the other entry where "subscriptions" are dystopic. If asking people to pay for stuff is bad and giving it away for free supported by ad revenue is bad, what's your bright idea for covering costs?
Load More Replies...just got back from switzerland, no billboards, or neon signs, just buildings and nature.
Can I just pump my gas in peace? I don't need a video screen playing ads on the pump.
Right? I can pretty much guarantee I have never bought anything online from a "pop-up" ad, but what really boils my p i s s (thank you Sarah Millican - that's my new favorite phrase) is when I am constantly bombarded with ads for something I LOOKED at. Or worse - something I looked at and have already purchased. Hey Ruggable? I have rugs and runners everywhere I want them. I literally have no more "rug space". You can F*CK RIGHT OFF now.
Don’t cancel me for this, but I actually like the ads in Times Square. As a New Yorker, there is a certain charm to the clutter
It's exhausting to see so much "eye clutter" seemingly everywhere. It's gotten to the point that there's so much of it that any individual ad is lost in the ad blizzard.
Credit scores.
Credit Scores are a zero sum game. If you use your card you'll get dinged on your credit score. If you don't use your card you'll get dinged on your credit score. Even if you pay your bill on time you'll get dinged on your credit score.
The higher your credit score the deeper the hole you can put yourself in. Plus, cash has been criminalized by the wealthy. Try to buy a car or house with your life savings and the Secret Service will called.
I am not "rich" but I would consider myself fairly wealthy (mostly because I do not have student loans or a car payment). My dad was born at the a*s end of the great depression, and I was taught to basically not buy anything I cant actively afford. So I bought my 2017 car in cash, as I do with everything. Going to buy a house, which I can easily afford the payments on, I was stalled for a long time because I didnt have a credit score; not good, not bad - nonexistant. I literally had to get a credit card just to build credit before anyone would even consider giving me a mortgage. Proof of all bill payments and paystubs meant nothing. All you are is a number, and if your number doesnt fit their system, youre screwed.
I've just bought a sofa on zero interest credit purely to increase my credit score. If anything happens to my current home and I have to move, i will need a better credit score to get approved for a tenancy. Normally, I save up to buy any big purchases and I'm really not comfortable with buying something on credit.
Yet just above it is the normalisation of debt. The basic principle, which should be taught in all schools, is don't spend money you haven't got. You don't *need* the latest gadget/subscription. As they used to say, cut your coat according to your cloth.
Without debt you have a bad credit score. A bad credit score means high insurance rates, lost job opportunities, not having the ability to rent, really, it can tank your life.
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The cost of rent. Or mortgages. Or the wealth gap. And the way minimum wage was ignored for decades while the top 1% took higher and higher raises and bonuses while paying very little to no tax. Trickle down economics.
Just the fact they used the word "trickle" is obnoxious. Yeh cool, rich people dining means scraps inevitably fall from the table, let the poor slurp that up they'll be fine.
We've been awaiting those scraps for decades. No sign of them yet.
Load More Replies...It takes two full weeks of work for me to pay my rent. It hurts my soul.
Working to just survive these days is utmost miserable.☹️
Load More Replies...And you can't get a $950/month mortgage even when you already pay $1200/month in rent!
Trickle down economic is an apt name. With all the wealth being accumulated, the regular people can only catch a trickle, to share amongst themselves. (As of right now, I've thought and written the word trickle so many times, than the word does seem right/means anything).
Nothing EVER trickles down - except empty promises and propaganda
Load More Replies...Anything a society fails to provide for its citizens becomes an opportunity for the rich to provide it at the cost of a lifetime of debt.
Everything has gotten so expensive to the point that not even upper class can pay, smh
The way women have control legislated away from their own bodies. Not even just abortion, but abortion laws that prevent women from being able to get medical care for their own conditions. Women who have to get close enough to death to get treatment, regardless of their present suffering or other long term effects. Prostitution laws. Certainly parts of them make sense but why is it illegal for some stay at home mom to give handies for spending money at home while the kids are in school?
I've never understood why prostitution is illegal, particularly since there is no longer a need to increase the population for the species to survive, and contraception is so easily available.
Exploitation should be illegal but prostitution in itself shouldn't. Get rid of the madame and pimps and its just people making choices about their own bodies.
Load More Replies..."if a 16 year old girl wanted to adopt a child, the government would say no, because shes not of age and not legally an adult. but if a 16 year old gets pregnant, the government forces her to give birth." -a lady on tiktok
I never thought I’d live to see legal abortions taken away from women.
Prostitution is not illegal everywhere, and in some places where it is police go after customers first.
Yeah, I think it's the human trafficking aspect that's illegal. But technically ... holy s**t I just had a shower thought. Okay. Hear me out. The difference between legal consensual sex and prostitution is the exchange of money, right? But then you have people going on dates, and someone is buying someone food, perhaps a movie, maybe other treats. SOME people have this idea that spending money on a date means the date is required to go further, like with sex or something along that line. Do these types of people perhaps think a date is a prostitute? I mean... that's really how they're treating their date. Anyways, regardless, it wouldn't be illegal if both are willing because money wouldn't be directly given. Weird. Still puts people in a vulnerable situation, though.
Load More Replies...I would give a handy right now for some spending money. And I'm a guy. I just flat don't care lmao
What about if you get r@ped? What if it was a girl who’s under 18? They cant take care of them! Also, its an unborn baby…
Because the government can't tax the c**p out of people who do it and pay for it
The amount of trash we humans produce. How distanced we are from the natural world.
Sadly old as civilisation...I heard there is a big hill in Roma, that is in fact made of Antique Roma trash: broken amphoras etc...
It's only been in the last 70 years that humans have mass produced a material that does not break down back into the natural world. Industry and gov could implement effective domestic collection and processing and choose not to bc that would cut into profits and shareholder dividends.
American burial traditions. Spend thousands of dollars to preserve the body, pack it in an expensive box and bury it, sometimes in a concrete vault. To keep it from naturally decomposing? Why?
Not just American, but burial in general. Why do we bury the dead? What an utter waste of space.
Oh, it's to prevent rampant disease. Glad I could help.
Load More Replies...Cremate me, spread half my ashes in the Bay of San Francisco and the other half in an edible compote to be left in the woods to feed the wildlife. If my loved ones want a funeral, turn it into a party: mosh with my urn (or, rather, coffee can😁), take me crowd surfing, have a BYOB open bar and pot luck, have the whole thing at someone's house. Minimal cost and hopefully everyone has fun. That's what I want. Don't give a funeral home any more money than the cost of my cremation. The compote can be homemade and the authorities don't have to know a damn thing. Oh, and PLEASE play Queen's Another One Bites The Dust at some point since I literally want to be bitten dust. It's a golden opportunity for me.
I always wanted to donate my body to a medical school or something. Totally freaks my husband out. He wants to be cremated, which I don’t like. More recently, I’ve been considering donating it to the Body Farm at the University of Tennessee Knoxville. If I’m not using it, I might as well donate it for research. Why the hell not?
I agree. If you did want to be cremated, I've heard that when the research is over, they will cremate you and send you back to the family for free. It cost me $4000 to have my father cremated. Just cremated - not the service or anything.
Load More Replies...No one is saying to not bury the dead but we go to the extremes... embalming, expensive hermetically sealed caskets placed inside a concrete vault... what's the point of trying to preserve the body ? It's not like you can use it again later, right ?
We should be promoting burial at sea. A weighted box with holes in it, doesn’t even need to be a box, just a biodegradable bag with sand in the bottom. Chuck ‘em off the back of a container ship as they pass designated areas out in oceans away from fishing rights. Decompose, get eaten by passing fish and the likes. Job done.
Didn't religion play a part in burial practices, too? Something like if your body was cremated, then your soul has nothing to return to when the big resurrection event happens. That never made sense to me because it seems to imply that anyone whose body wa destroyed upon death won't be resurrected. Same for those long dead and decompose. Anyway, areas, such as New Orleans use vaults because the area is below sea level.
I want one of those decomposing cremation pots. You literally become a tree.
I wish green burials would be allowed in almost any jurisdiction. No embalming, no cremation, etc. Wrap the body in a biodegradable cloth or shroud, dig a hole in the woods somewhere, and voilà! No huge expense to the family or whomever. Of course, the funeral industry hates this idea.
I think cremation is better option, but it cost money too. And many people is against it, I don't get why?
Anti-intellectualism.
I remember when Obama was first running for President, and the commentary was, "He thinks he's better than us." He's running for President. He SHOULD be better than us!!
SHOULD being the operative word. Looking at you, you misogynistic, lying, cheating, DELUSIONAL con man piece of sh*t. Yeah, in case you live under a rock, I'm talking about Trump.
Load More Replies...Anti vaxxers, flat earthers, anti maskers, free birthers, moon landing was fake -ers, and on and on.
Load More Replies...You have to be pretty dumb to think that it’s better to walk through life asleep with your eyes closed then it is to be awake and woken up to the realities of the world you live in.
Yeah but people really do it and it getting more prominent and sometimes they even make excuses for it. And if you ignore the bad things when you are with or near bad things you know what they say about that don't you? Yeah!
Load More Replies...This is so true like people are forgetting history and not caring about it. And you know what they say when that happens don't you? Yep
Everything is made up by people, and explained by people like it all really matters in the universe. Our politics are made up. Our religions are made up. Our scientific explanations are made up. We look to history, as if history isn't being created in the now, and we look at ancient civilizations with amazement, calling them advanced, because they seemed to have more of their s**t together than us. But they're the ones who have given us more knowledge than any other person has within the last millennia.
Working until you’re in your late sixties when 50 billionaires control most of the wealth in an entire country.
Only in some countries. Maternity leave payments here have just been increased to over $700 a week.
Load More Replies...67-68 for me, yet the French had riots because they have to work till 64...but I may have to work into my 70s...somehow
I wouldn't mind seeing billionaires owning most of the world's money if they weren't such a pack of morons and psychopaths about it. rich333-64...81517c.jpg
I will have to work until I drop dead. I can't even afford my own pension.
Ok hear me out on this one… people who retire and just sit on their porch all day. They die. Your mind and body and soul needs a purpose. Maybe that purpose is rescuing kittens or rebinding books or perfecting bread making. But so many studies show people live longer if they have a task, continued learning, and purpose.
This is true. I also think it can be a viscous cycle of work being such an inherent part of life that we can't imagine (or haven't had the opportunity to explore) what else we'd do with our time. Personally I'd love to travel to some places that I know I'd get a lot more out of at this age vs when I'm older and have less stamina... but I don't get paid time off and retirement is still so far away.
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Health insurance.
Healthcare should be, if not free, at least affordable. Basic preventive care should be free, as well as emergency care. When over 500,000 people in your country go bankrupt every year due to medical bills, and especially when 3/4 of them HAD HEALTH INSURANCE, that's f---ed up.
Never had it, never need it... 6 months of every test under the sun for cancer.... Just paid for the GP visits.... Total? $200....
This is not the "statements found on the internet that never happened" thread😅
Load More Replies...I don't think health insurance per se is dystopian. Quite the opposite. I want insurance for everybody. The shitshow the US calls health care system, that's dystopian!
I pay for health insurance. Then there are copays and deductibles. Once I've paid enough out of my pocket, then the insurance I pay for will start to pay some of my bills! That makes sense how?
Irish person here - I pay like €100 a month for my insurance, keep in mind a GP visit is €60 here. Only today I had to go in to one of the urgent care clinics. I was seen and out with a prescription in less than an hour. No cost. Prescription was €30 for three different things. How is that dystopian? Best investment ever.
Sounds like your insurance is similar to a NZ company called Southern Cross which is a charitable organisation where profits are reinvested back into the company rather than to a shareholder. Not like the American system which frankly seems to be designed to gouge as much as they can from the user.
Load More Replies...Everyone knows the American Health Care system is a capitalist c**p hole. If anyone out there can offer a solution to change and put it in place..that'd be great.
Pick one of the European systems. They all are different, but far better than the US system.
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Reality TV.
I wrote a post a few months ago when i worked on a "reality TV" show. I can 100% confirm that it is all fake as f*k. If you were behind the scenes like me you wouldn't/couldn't keep a straight face of how these "actors" "work"!! I can't mention too much but......they have to learn their lines and have to hate/love certain people on the show. Then when the cameras are turned off it's like.....sup dude/girl. Then they go off to stay with their boyfriends/girlfriends in the hotel. Fake as f*k
"Reality TV" is a guilty pleasure where we have the biggest trainwrecks of humanity paraded in front of us in all their stupidity. This makes us all feel better about ourselves, and is probably the ONLY way those trainwreck humans can make a living, and keeps them from working with normal humans who would rather not be tortured by that level of stupid every day.
"Reality TV" is clearly oxymoronic. And you don't even need the "oxy".
"Reality" TV is all prescripted garbage from scab writers who bust through writers union lines.
I watch reality television every single day. It starts when I wake up in the morning and ends when I go to sleep at night. If I want to see any re-runs, I will have to dream.
It's just mindless entertainment for people who want to escape from their troubled lives. It may often make them feel a bit happier about themselves too, watching all the dumb stuff that goes on in these shows.
Food and housing insecurity in a world in which other people are billionaires.
Running out of sick days, so you work sick.
No, many countries have limits on the yearly no. Of days available. However, in Australia at least you can apply and get social service support if you are really unwell. When I had cancer I was given a social worker to help me navigate anything I might need, thankfully I had 70 days accrued sick leave so it never came to that but it was peace of mind to know there was a plan b available if I needed it.
Load More Replies...You need to get as many sick days as you NEED. I get that some people might exploit it, but wouldn’t it be obvious if they did?
In my country, if you get sick and got a medical certificate to prove it, you are entitled to up to 12 months of leave with full pay. By law, you can't be fired during your sick leave or because of it. I've known of people abusing the system, but it's very far from being the norm.
Load More Replies...Where trying to take care of your mental health is NOT as important as taking care of your physical health.
The only problem though is people abusing sick days. Where I work we have a points system, like being late is half a point, not coming in a whole point. Stuff like that. You wouldn't believe how many people use up every last point and sit with no chances left so one mess up they're fired. They use sick days for vacation. How you gonna be sick until your last point then suddenly not be sick until your points reset then be sick again in repeat.
Most places I've worked sick days can't be used unless you've already missed two shifts. Who can afford to miss two shifts? Whether or not you have sick days available they're basically useless.
That crazy. I'm reach the age when my health is not so good. I already been sick 3 times this year. And now I'm off for one week because my dad died. And I just received call from work: "hey you gonna be in work in Monday or u need more time off?" And I live in quite poor country Poland (compared to west of Europe off course)
Factory farming. Utterly horrific.
These poor cows. I'm not a vegetarian nor vegan, but I can't stand how little consideration of the live animals there is in the farming industry. They're not thought of as living souls. Just a commodity, money and food machine.
More slaughterhouse workers suffer from PTSD and there are more suicides than in any other way of life - and why not - they are killing all day - even soldiers don't kill all the time they're at work.
Never really thought about it but now I am I cannot comprehend how they do that job
Load More Replies...No one is prepared to admit that the biggest problem on this planet is that there too many people on the earth. COVID did not kill enough. At least 50% of the world's popular must die in order for us to survive.
I feel so fortunate that where I live, I have a lot of affordable options so I don't have to buy factory farmed products. Plenty of local farms where the animals are roaming around in the fields instead of locked up.
I had to look this up because I honestly didn't know: A farm is typically classed as a factory farm, or concentrated animal feeding operation (CAFO), if it holds more than 700 dairy cows or 1,000 beef cattle
I'm honestly beginning ot think that most of the posts in this thread are submitted by people who don't know what the hell "dystopian" means.
Normalization of debt
Debt for a mortgage or car has been normal a long time. However, I do not know a single person under the age of 35 that does not have large student loan debt, credit card debt, or both.
Among all of my friends, I am the only one without student loan debt (because my father was in Vietnam - still not worth that sacrifice, but at least something good came of it). That said, I make among the least but have (by far) the most disposable income. Its wild how much of a difference student loan debt makes in your life. This includes several engineers, which I am not. I am extremely grateful for what I have, and also very sad by what my friends have to go through.
Load More Replies...It is impossible to exist in this world as an individual, business, or nation, without debt. Debt really does make the world go round and the rich get richer because they own the debt. The only way to manage this is when a society/government provides for its citizens such as public transportation, free higher education, rent controls, guaranteed secure retirement, universal healthcare. All these things are easily provided by taxing the wealth instead of the paycheck.
The fact that we cannot do much on the internet without consenting cookies.
The EU has made the mandatory use of non-essential cookies illegal. When will the US catch up, I wonder?
They are basically a small package of unique data that the browser will send back to the web server each time it makes another request. So it allows the web server to keep track of how that client explores the website by relating all subsequent requests back to the original one. It basically allows the website developer to improve the design of their website by seeing what pages people seem to sucessfully find quickly etc. It also allows things like "remember me" to work, by using the stored cookie to identify you again rather than require you to enter your username and password every time you visit.
Load More Replies...I would consent to cake or pie!! I'm sorry, I have a very warped since of humor!!
I have the same computer I did a decade ago. I used to be able to run a browser with multiple tabs, Gimp with multiple files open, iTunes to play music, and TextEdit with a couple different files open. No problem. Everything worked. Today, the same computer screams at me that I lack system resources to do anything but have a browser open with one tab. Everyone else is using my processing power to track what I'm doing, so I can't even do what I want on my own computer.
The way big companies have conditioned us to say things we pay for are free.
"You can watch it for free on netflix"
"It's free if you purchase this bundle"
"They keep updating the game, the next DLC is free!"
Anytime you go to say something is free, try saying "it's included" short for "included in the base price"
Or advertising it as free, but forgetting to mention it’s only free during the initial trial period. If it was truly 100% free, they wouldn’t be asking for your credit card number when you sign up.
Exactly! If they want a credit card number, it's a big red flag that you're going to pay in some way or another. Another pet peeve of mine is auto-renew subscriptions. They should have to ask before they renew - not just charge your card again.
Load More Replies...Never really noticed this. Once I have to put in the ol' debit card info I consider it not free.
Or, they are using those cookies to steal and sell your information. It may be free of money, but it does cost you your privacy.
Well, if people share their passwords and use illegal TV access then it becomes almost free. The thing is that once you set your prices so high that it sickens people then they will do such things and you will begin to lose revenue. Putting prices up will spiral income downwards. Companies NEVER learn this lesson so expect to see large companies go bust as this recession REALLY starts to bite in the next few years..
Tying healthcare to employment
I'm in the UK, I have had around 10 operations for various things, I see healthcare professionals when I need and, due to my medical condition, I receive free prescriptions. I also do my best to stay healthy, I eat well and exercise regularly but age and genetics can be a bit of an embuggerance.
I'm all for universal health care in "America", but at least big companies are paying for health care. Doesn't that tie in with the complaint that "companies don't pay enough in taxes"??
Companies are not paying for healthcare, the workers are. I get it automatically taken out of my check every pay period. Companies are just able to get insurance discounted in packages from the insurance companies, so it's a bit cheaper than individuals getting it on their own.
Load More Replies...The same as tying unemployment benefits to your former employment. I don´t really how it works, but I often read stories online where companies are apparently able to block employees leaving them from being able to apply for unemployment benefits. That´s insane.
There are not for profit hospitals that have a mandate to accept all patients. Once admitted social workers assist the patient in finding insurance.
The finance department will reduce or wave charges based on income. Govt taxes plus charities make up the costs.
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The complete lack of privacy we have in 2023. People can record you in public for their TikTok, and everyone will say “BUT ITS LEGAL!!”
Or just mutter curse words in the back so they can’t post it
Load More Replies...They can't around here. Sure, when you pop up in a video about a place or gathering somewhere in the background, there's little you can do. But they can't put you in focus for a picture or video if you don't want them to. It's called "Recht am eigenen Bild" (=right to your own picture). They are legally obliged to get your permission.
I wish Elon Musk had bought out Tik Tok. They truly deserve each other.
I hate that. Pretty sure I'm in people's videos. Possibly body shaming me. Or not. Idk.
“Legal?” Animal cruelty laws don’t apply to fish, but if you legally torture fish you’re still a…
I live in one of the most monitored countries in the world (CCTV) and our every internet search, e-mail, text is monitored and collected by the NSA and passed to GCHQ. The UK government objects to Huawei because it doesn't have as much access to their tech to spy on us. We are STILL told that WhatsApp cannot be cracked and the government loudly complains about this and threatens to do something - and yet never does. Why? Because it already has been. Not that they even need to, the tech exists to access ANY phone remotely by hacking without even sending dodgy texts or e-mails to it. So forget the Tik Toks, we are all living in 1984 with Big Brother actually watching us in real time..
Just because it's legal doesn't mean you should do it. ETA: it is also legal to be angry if someone is recording you without your permission. Social norms need to put a stop to this trend, but like everything else I think it's gained too much traction.
US ‘healthcare’
Homeless people
Refugee boats and sinking
Anyone anywhere being hungry
Bombing civilians
Caring about five ultra-rich people who perished in a submersible more than 500+ refugees who perished when their boat capsized. And they were already suffering horrific conditions before the capsizing, after paying a fat price to escape.
The only one on that submarine I feel bad for is the 19 year old. He didn’t want to go but he did to keep his dad happy
Load More Replies...Refugees are no longer called refugees. They are 'Asylum Seekers' or just 'Migrants' as we should not even regard them as human now. Much of what was done to get Jewish and other vulnerable people away from the Nazis would now be illegal and we'd send them back or let them drown at sea. Worst thing is, the public would back it up..
Sinking refugee boats could be prevented by keeping the borders closed - no chance to success, no incentive to get on those boats. At the same time it would be necessary to have safe ways to request refuge. The EU recenetly brought something like that on the way
This comment is obviously written faster than the speed of thought.
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Militarization of local and state law enforcement.
War is pointless. Everybody loses and it worsens the situation
True, but sadly not everyone agrees, and we have to be ready for that.
Load More Replies...The militarization of schools alarmed Einstein before WW2 and the rise of fascism in the East, and now it’s happening in America, and we barely notice. (It’s coming from the right-wing.)
Obesity - everywhere... causing death, deceases and low quality lifes and btw impacting environment badly.
Being obese is bad. It’s not fatphobic its a fact. It’s bad for your health and it needs to stop being normalised.
But it's not a reason for normalising fatshaming also.
Load More Replies...People just need to mind their business of other people's bodies. The exact opposite, going nuts at the gym and doing crazy, extreme diets, building up muscles until your vein pop out isn't all that healthy either. Same with losing weight too quickly and depriving yourself of nutrients to get very under weight. Our weight gain is due to many different factors that are unique to every individual. I can attest that it does creep up on you quickly and before you realize it. Trying to lose weight is difficult when you're unsure of the cause. js. Try to be kind to others.
You can be kind to people and still acknowledge the plain and simple fact that obesity is unhealthy and should not be normalized, encouraged, or celebrated.
Load More Replies...It is bizarre that the human race is trying to deal with obesity and starvation at the same time.
Ultra processed food - causing all sorts of health problems - including obesity.
In the US at least, our food supply, lack of time, food availability, and a country/cities that are impossible to navigate without a car, maybe don't shame people for inevitable outcomes.
that is why it's dystopian... we've built an infrastructure that makes it difficult to be healthy in general
Load More Replies...Is not the real issue unavailability of healthy low fat foods, the unaffordability of healthy low fat foods and the vast profits made from selling high fat, less healthy foods? 😡
Watch out. You'll get labeled as "fatphobic". As if type 2 Diabetes cares...
If you're poor you're going to be fatter. Cheap foods contain more fats to make it palatable. Eating healthy is expensive, cooking from scratch takes time that people don't have because they have to work, then commute, then pick the kids up and then get home. The poorer you are the worse your health is BECAUSE you are poor. Poor health leads to further poor life chances which make you poorer. Shorter lives and less healthy life during that. This is all easily fixable. The government knows and chooses to have it this way..
Food manufacturers should take some blame here. The amount of sugar in foods that don't need it is obscene. Plus palm oil. It all impacts how people gain weight, and then struggle losing it. Healthy foods are stupidly expensive. Many people are working two or three jobs, meaning they don't have the time or energy to cook properly, so they buy easy food, all of which are full of sugar and bad fats. It can often be impossible for people to lead optimum lifestyles to keep healthy.
Having to work more than one job.
Cameras everywhere.. "1984".
That argument has been commonly used to support totalitarian goverments for decades. When they decide it's'wrong' to do things that you regard as basic human freedoms it shows just how flawed it is as a concept.
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The rhetoric and life behind social media. It's totally a landscape that determines your worth by how others feel about you. It's kinda scary the more you see its use.
Social medias addictive, thats why people go on it so much, not because its good, because it’s addictive
I am on board with Deborah Rubin. I know my worth, but it doesn't matter- I am over eighty now!
There's a great eposide of The Orville about essentially this, where a whole society basically polls on facebook if someone is getting a death penalty.
What's interesting is if you turn it all off and walk around most neighborhoods life there isn't much evidence it's around.
Huge corporation and how much control they have over mere mortals.
um yeaaaah, we're gonna need you to come into work this weekend too. Um no human [ZAP with the ray gun]
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Censorship.
Just the first one, because the second one isn't real.
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Prevalence of social media in daily life
I see it as a curated photo aggregation site rather than social media such as facebook or twatter.
Load More Replies...Don’t even know where to start… but when thinking about how much of the meat we eat daily is actually produced and how the animals we eat are actually treated is really sick to think about. Also adding how normal it is to buy things “made in china” or other countries where it’s so clear that the people who produce our c**p is practically living as slaves on huge factories where they don’t even earn enough money or get paid at all to feed themselves, and often die early but in a very slow and painful way…
It is hard to buy made in America even when you want to. Remember when everything was made in Japan?
And made in America might simply mean "assembled in America" instead, with every part made somewhere else.
Load More Replies...It's super difficult to avoid made in *insert Asian country* products. If you do care, just do your research. Not every factory and producer in those countries are terrible. The most prominent, popular big brands are. Including many popular designer brands. The problem is people want everything for as cheap as possible. Stuff that's made by happy employees and humane companies charge a lot more for their wares. For some reason this scares people. Heck, just look at how people freak out when talk of increasing minimum wage comes up. "Who's going to pay for the extra wages?"
It also depends on where you live and the animal welfare laws in that country. Factory and battery farming has been outlawed in many countries, especially across Europe and the South Pacific. The USA has no such welfare Code of Practice or law regarding farm animals.
Working at all just to have shelter is dystopian. Whats even gonna happen when all the jobs are done by robots? Yeah more tech related jobs will open up. Whats going to happen to everyone else? Either the governments starts giving people free shelter or everyones going to be homeless.
This is why I can't write stories set in the future. Because I can't see a way it works out well for anyone but the 1%. Really the only question is whether the rest of us die slowly or are culled.
And it’s why I can’t say congratulations to women who are pregnant. This is not the time or place to be breeding.
Load More Replies...If we're going to call ourselves civilized, shouldn't that include making sure everyone has the bare necessities for survival? Shelter, food, clean water, maybe even electricity and medical care? In the long run, doesn't that really benefit all of us?
Well, if robots do ALL the work, people theoretically would then be truly equal and would live the same at the same level. Right? Right?
The Luddites were right. They were worried that mechanisation was going to take their jobs away, and it did.
Load More Replies...40 hour work week
For some people living off a single 40 hour/week job is more of a utopia - they either work multiple "small" jobs or do a lot more work than they're paid for.
Is this across the globe or just the USA? Minimum wage/LIving wage are common place in many countries. 40 hour work weeks are Monday to Friday. Some jobs have penal rates built into the employment contract: any time over 8 hours a day is overtime at time and a half, night shift has a higher pay rate with meal allowances, working away needing overnight stays accommodation, meals and stay away allowances paid by the employer. Unions are fully accepted and listened to and members can get a union member annual pay rise over and above company annual pay raises.
Load More Replies..."We all see each other more than our families, so we need to be more respectful of each other." That's what was said to us the other day. I wanted to cry.
Pls ask a bangladeshian factory worker whether he/she thinks 40hrs/week is dystopian
You're not wrong. At least we can come home to make a hot meal, relax, go do an activity, have a shower, and then go to sleep for several hours. We're not working 12-15 hours a day, with maybe one day off a week, if that, and working under the most harshest conditions.
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The News.
Unless I know something went on and want more info, I ignore the news, now. My mental health has improved a bit.
Everyone in the US NEEDS to vote! Vote for the right people and maybe we can change some of these.
If voting for the right people in the US made any difference, then what happened to Obamacare? It really boils down to the president's power being negligible.
Load More Replies...A lot of the articles in this topic are related to Overpopulation of the World. Yes, a billionaire could offer to feed everyone in Asia, but at a dollar each his billion wouldn't last very long.
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Load More Replies...Everyone in the US NEEDS to vote! Vote for the right people and maybe we can change some of these.
If voting for the right people in the US made any difference, then what happened to Obamacare? It really boils down to the president's power being negligible.
Load More Replies...A lot of the articles in this topic are related to Overpopulation of the World. Yes, a billionaire could offer to feed everyone in Asia, but at a dollar each his billion wouldn't last very long.
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