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Picture a job ad: skilled, bilingual manager with higher education diploma and 5 years of previous experience wanted. Well, you may expect this solid role would be well-paid, but in the world of Choosing Beggars this is not the case.

In fact, more and more employers are looking for workers with impressive resumes and a set of ludicrous requirements, only to offer them pennies in return. Thanks to the subreddit Choosing Beggars that is notorious for calling out greedy and delusional people like this, we have a lot of real-life cases to look at. From a church that expects 10% of their employee's pay back to a company that’s looking for a bilingual manager to take charge of a team for $8 an hour, some of the job ads are hard to believe.

Also, scroll down for our interview with Dawn Moss, the founder of “Your Interview Coach,” who has been helping both candidates and hiring managers through the recruitment and selection process since 2013. She happily shared insights into the job market today and explained why some employers have such high requirements for little salaries. Dawn also has some tips on what to do if you ever receive a delusional offer!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm going to be unpopular by saying this. If you can't afford a kid, don't have several of them. There's no easy kid and certainly not the plural version. For sure it's not a reason not to pay the nanny.

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To find out what an expert has to say about high expectations and low salaries offered in the job market, Bored Panda spoke with Dawn Moss. “I've worked with hundreds of hiring managers in lots of different disciplines and this is one of the common situations; low salary and high expectations for the job,” she said. “To be fair to all the hiring managers out there, they are often given a budget and want to get as much as they can with the money they have!”

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Read the first line as "In need of a babysitter from 12PM - 7 PM, Motherfückers.

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Lovin' Life
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not a job but rather an ad looking for a volunteer. One cannot survive doing such.

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Maybe You Wouldn't Be On The Third Nanny If You Paid More Than $10/Hr?

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ZentheOgre
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Corporate? What is she a secretary (not sexism just the lowest paid "corporate"position I can think of) and then those usually pay surprisingly well

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Ethan Lang
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Isn’t to live off of” and “serious inquiries only” don’t belong in the same sentence.

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Laura Edwards
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

" some of these girls" . Since you won't take women seriously, I guess they will return the favor.

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DC
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You got a corporate job ... husband is deployed, meaning he makes money, too ... you cannot afford a livable wage? Then don't get children. Or learn to budget. Nobody can afford doing work just for fun, you know...

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Sakura
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"sick and tired of nannies who are ghosts" Dang, do you live in a haunted house? /j

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Jessica Cooney
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once had a parent tell me they believed they were paying me "too much". With the number of hours I was working and the flat rate I was getting, it came out to 5.80/hr around 2012. I quickly got a new job after that.

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Lemy Kilmister
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Face it, you are too poor to have a nanny. The universe doesn't owe you one now move along.

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are you screaming about your deadlines? Sounds like a personal issue to me. Vile person.

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Candia Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My neighbor hired me to watch her daughter. Her cousin hung out with her, so it was often a two-for-one. When the "job" was over, she said "daycare was $1.35 an hour, so here's $135". I was too flabbergasted to object.

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A Dasher Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn. I almost bumped my car going backwards into a trailer when I saw a $14 tip after a delivery. Dude might as well have tossed me an ounce of actual gold.

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Blaze Fitzwater
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Corporate job means corporate compensation. You need help ASAP, people need more than side money ASAP. 🥴

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Mama Penguin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how she's condescendingly boasting about her corporate job like she's a blooming C-level employee and not willing to pay people a proper hourly wage.

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RedMarbles
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's probably not gonna have a lot of luck in any case, but she's even less likely to find the nice older mom/grandma type she's envisioning with the hard attitude. What person who might consider such a low-paying gig because they like babies is going to read that and think that's just the type of person she wants to do it for?

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Raven DeathShade
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean, I'd do that! I love caring for kids and 10 bucks an hour is already my going rate. One one year old? PARADISE!!! Sign me up and get me going :).

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Honu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If that's the going rate where you live, then great! Cost of living varies from place to place. It clearly isn't the going rate where she lives. People are routinely asking 50-100% more. That's the market rate where she is. Where I live $15 is less than the legal minimum wage.

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Kira Pettet
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why would an old lady want to HANG with a 1 yo for $10 an hour

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Angel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she has a CORPORATE job then $15-$20 per hour for 4 hours a day should be pocket change for her 🙄 Typical entitled rich miser wants stuff for free

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Frannie Kaplan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You brag about your corporate job, be prepared to pay 30 an hour. No one wants to "han out" with some one else's kids on some one else's terms!

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then you can't afford a nanny. Take the kid to daycare. Tell your corporate overlords to have daycare options so their employees can go to work.

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The Shark
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't have kids. I'm low-income yet financially responsible.

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CanadianaKa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... At least this one isn't an illegal wage? (Yeah, damning with faint praise there.)

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Rob McLaughlin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She literally says it's not money to live off of and states the wage. If it hurts your delicate feelings or it's not for you don't apply, it's easy. It's perfect for someone whose retired and bored.

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Heather Dailey
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can always tell they're not the greatest when they sum up taking care of their child with "hang out" and "play"

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Amanda Lawrence
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I have a corporate job thats very important, I cant afford to pay minimum wage"

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Ryan Oliver Tan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

unpopular opinion: but the ad does state how much it pays and time needed, aswell as a job description that is pretty clear. if $10/hr is low. than don't reply to the ad... very simple. its like your offended with something that is not offered to you. ( since the $10 is no where near were you want to get paid with)

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Amy Stone-Chandler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depends where the location is tbh. There are plenty of places that pay 10 an hour for child care. This ad is more honest then most child care ad's though. 10 an hour(cash) is OK for an elderly woman that would enjoy the time with a little one.

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Claire Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Clearly she doesn't understand that our bills are on a deadline...

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A Dasher Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One year olds need their diapers changed. If you work a corporate job and can't afford to pay 60 bucks a day, then you have the wrong corporate job. Also, the "older mom/grandma type" isn't going to want to watch your kid for peanuts. Every service member's spouse should seriously hold off on having kids if they are unable to depend on family (like their own mom) if there's risk of deployment and you're a businessperson. Also, calling it "side money" further enforces the fact they don't care what you think.

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Kiem Gallagher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People... if you cannot afford to have children, don't have them. You should ALWAYS plan before even considering getting pregnant... what are we going to do when the baby arrives? Are we both going to continue working? Are we going to do daycare? Will we hire a PT or FT caregiver? And if so... where is the money coming from? Can we afford it? Maybe we should start saving some money first and THEN have the child or maybe we simply cannot afford to have one. Imagine being ANGRY because nobody wants to work for you for basically peanuts! Are you delusional or are you simply a moron?

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Wesley Lucas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is asinine. Any job should provide enough of a wage for someone to "live off of". These pricks seem to think that taking care of their kids, something THEY clearly can't or don't want to do, shouldn't be a job that provides a living wage? For what possible reason? "Women's work" has been devalued for so f'ing long and I'm glad more and more people are calling out this hypocrisy for what it is.

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H Moore
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All older woman want to hang out with 1 yr olds...right.

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Grayson Wrigley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, so this woman has a serious attitude problem, I grant you that. But I also feel like this whole post is more a symptom of how f-ed up childcare is in America (assuming this is in America). $200 a week is definitely not the enough to live on, but for the vast majority of us it's a crap load to spend out of pocket every week. The whole thing just makes me shake my head.

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A Dasher Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No this woman is just cheap af and not appreciating the seriousness of having a baby when her husband could be shipped off at a moment's notice.

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Ozymandias73
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, I don't see much wrong with this. She CLEARLY states that this job is side money only and is asking for someone older. The job is explained and is detailed "play with her son during these hours. If you're not looking for a full time gig with great pay, then this may suit someone just looking for extra cash. I'm not seeing why this is getting such shame. Worded differently this may have been taken less harshly.

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Rocky Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. An attitude problem for sure, lotta angst, frustration. But for 4 hours, keeping a 1 year old busy.. maybe a snack? $10 an hour doesn't sound so bad. NOW, if more is required to watch the kid, like a strained schedule, a forced car trip, things requiring money out of pocket to do, then too much is being asked.

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Jo Choto
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people would be okay to play with a kid for $10 an hour. I wouldn't, but she's right that a grandma or even a young teen would love to do this for that money.

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Evil Hornet
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So important CORPORATE and 15$/hr is a problem. I think someone is not very good at his job...

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Scagsy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How on earth did they find three nannies for that pay? Exploiting the desperate?

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Dawn also explained that it won't be a surprise to most people that the workplace has gone through massive changes recently. “It means employers are looking for individuals with more technical and behavioral competencies,” she said and added that “the workplace was changing fast even before the pandemic, environmental considerations, technology, big data, AI, political influences, social demographics, the list goes on.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Must be Trump fans, they also love to dodge taxes an get involved in shady financial transactions.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not for $8-9 an hour. Pay people what they are worth and you may have a better chance of a hire.

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“It can seem overwhelming when a candidate looks at the job advert and job description with the long list of criteria, tasks, responsibilities, etc. In my experience as an in-house recruiter, this job description was often a 'wish list,'” Dawn told us. “The hiring managers would take that job to market (job boards, agencies, social media, etc.) and see who was looking, who was interested in the job, and see what they could get for the salary,” she said.

Moreover, the job description is also what we tend to think of as the 'end product.' “This means the hiring managers and recruiters aren't necessarily looking for a candidate to 'tick' all of the boxes. Of course, it's great if they find someone who does match most or all of the criteria.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have a camera but for $200 I'll tell you all about it when you call

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You Tube channel about filmmaking. First lesson. Pay your crew.

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Dawn explained that the job description is a measurement of what the hiring managers would like someone to work towards. “So candidates should keep this in mind when applying for the job and demonstrate not just their fit to the job now, but their potential to meet the criteria in the future. For example, if you have no experience but you are undertaking a qualification, training course, certificate, etc., be sure to add these things to your cover letter and CV.”

“Also, keep in mind that it can be a benefit to the business if a candidate doesn't 'tick' all of the boxes,” Dawn said and added that “they are more likely to stick around for a little longer, be highly motivated to meet the new challenges, and have a balance between bringing lots of skills and experience to the job but also lots of opportunities to learn and develop in the job.”

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sooo... 2 dogs, a cat and your child for $150/wk you said? Let me think on this

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According to the recruitment expert, the workplace is getting more and more demanding. “Therefore, the skills required to deal with fast-paced working environments and staying ahead of the competition mean employers are less realistic.” And Dawn believes that the speed and pace of change won't slow down in the near future. “Stress levels in the workplace have increased over the last few years and are still increasing,” she added.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just a small bug that that makes it even more absurd: the HTML5 specifications were finalised in 2014, so good luck finding someone with 10 years of experience in that...

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“Certainly, people are now talking about wanting to spend more quality time with their friends and family and some have enjoyed working from home and the balance that adds to their lifestyles. The conversation has started up again about the 4-day working week,” Dawn explained and added that it will certainly be an interesting trial and topic to follow. 

Meanwhile, her advice for the applicant who receives a clearly delusional salary offer is to try to get an idea of the salary or the salary range before going through the entire recruitment process. “If there's a number you can call to get more information or have an informal chat, always call them. This is a genuine invitation to call and start a conversation, but also start the relationship.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No money coming in for 2 months, then an interview where you might get a job. People are ridiculous.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously!? On the high end, that's $2.80 per hour. Only $125/hr on the low end.

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Having said that, Dawn warns not to make the salary the first question! “If you are genuinely interested in the job and the company, you will ask questions about these first, you may wish to share a brief and interesting summary of your experience and how it matches the job—don't waffle on and on... Then you can approach them about the remuneration and benefits.” She also said it’s important to let the person know you don't want to waste their time first (of course you don't want them to waste yours either).

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The whole point of tithing is that you're supposed to give it VOLUNTARILY. It's not supposed to be demanded, you church of warm cabbage.

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Scagsy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is the nanny going to earn $400 a month if she's working full-time? Mining bitcoin in her bedroom?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What are you suppose to watch? Is it a dog, her mother, television???

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I'll be home but just keep my kid away from me. Bonus Points if you pay for his college education

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Scagsy
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see the appeal of this to a die-hard fan but you HAVE to include admission in it. I used to be in the sports industry and we regularly had tours of the stadium and dressing rooms. I think it used to cost £15-£20 about 25 years ago so it would be more than that now due to inflation but you can't justify $350 for it. And we didn't put them to work while they were there! (Maybe we should have let them play. We might not have been relegated!)

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$15 Minimum Wage? No Way! What About $1 Instead?

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Choosing Beggar Wants You To Pay To Watch Their Dogs

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Smitin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This appears to be an ad for a one bedroom apartment available for 2 weeks (March 1 to March 15) for $100 but it includes the dogs so you have to take care of them while you're there. One hundred bucks for two weeks lodging isn't bad - beats taking an AirBnB

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