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The concept of providing exposure instead of just recompense for work is a problem that affects many businesses, and "For Exposure" on Twitter exposes this behavior. The page collects direct statements from people and organizations who have made offers to work for exposure rather than payment to professionals in a variety of areas, including artists and photographers. These statements reveal a disregard for the time and effort required to produce high-quality work.

"For Exposure" seeks to raise awareness about the significance of appreciating professionals' efforts and compensating them fairly for their services by sharing these messages. The page has spurred significant discussions about the importance of labor and the necessity of valuing people who devote their time and effort to their art. It serves as a reminder that experts need to be paid adequately for their work and that publicity alone is insufficient.

The article also includes an exclusive interview with Ryan Estrada who is an established comic artist, author, and the creator of the "For Exposure" Twitter page, so make sure to keep on reading.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem is, they will have had enough writers agreeing to do an article for free to make it worth their while to keep asking. If they ask 10 writers, and one or two agree to no fee, why would they change their policy? It's the same with "influencers" They've obviously had some businesses or individuals agree to provide something free of charge so they just keep on sending out begging messages because it works.

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Bored Panda reached out to Ryan Estrada, the creator of the "For Exposure" Twitter page, to learn more about his inspiration behind the page and his thoughts on compensation and recognition in the creative industry.

Ryan shared that the whole thing started as a joke. "I'd been seeing a lot of 'txt' accounts, so when I got a really dumb message about working for no pay, I thought to myself 'I bet I could fill up a txt account of these for exposure messages for a whole week!' I spent an hour procrastinating by tinkering with it, and before I knew it, I'd scheduled a year's worth of posts."

The "For Exposure" Twitter account gained massive popularity over the years, reaching millions of people and changing the conversation around terrible offers. Estrada shared that "everyone from aspiring teen artists to Eisner, Emmy, and Grammy winners followed the account. I was really happy to see how much it changed the conversation. How people would reply to terrible offers with 'this sounds like something out of @forexposure_txt' and the places where offers like that were made got better." Despite its success, Ryan recently decided to end the account after ten years when Elon Musk, whom he had quoted on the account multiple times, bought Twitter, and it no longer felt as fun to work for free to keep the account running.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I ordered the filet from your restaurant, but then I found a hot dog cart outside who only charged a dollar. I got woefully sick from it. Why didn't you stop me?!?!"

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Looks like the bride will just have to make do with grainy snaps taken by the guests on their phones as the memento of her big day

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We also asked Ryan about his experience with compensation and value recognition in his work and what steps he has taken to address it. The artist replied, "Everyone who makes art has to fight to make a living at it. The place I learned the most was when I ran a custom comic company. People would order comics about their boyfriends as superheroes, or 'how we met' comics for their weddings, comics about their company to hand out at trade shows, that kind of thing. I started off charging next to nothing, and that price ended up shrinking due to repeated demands for redos. Eventually, I upped the price just because I couldn't keep up and I wanted to slow the orders down."

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The creator of the page went on to explain how he gradually increased his prices, and as he did, he found that his orders actually increased as well. He said, "I ended up charging 50 times what I charged in the beginning, and making rules that everything they wanted in the comic needed to be said in advance. If they wanted any changes, they would have to pay again. The professional rate made people trust that they were getting a professional product. And the confident, unapologetic demand to be treated like a professional invited customers who were glad to do it."

Estrada said that he has taken the lessons he learned from running his custom comic company into the rest of his career. While he only works on projects he's passionate about now, he's confident in his worth and has no problem asking for fair compensation.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's right, you shouldn't call 911 for things like that, it should be used for things like complaining about not getting the right pizza delivered or asking the police to send someone over to open a jar of pickles

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When asked for advice he would give to young artists and professionals who are just starting their careers and may be struggling with the issue of being offered exposure instead of fair payment. Ryan's response was: "You are going to spend your whole life making art for little to no money. But make sure it's YOUR art. When you make someone else's art for no money, you only expose yourself as someone who works for free. I can't tell you how many people told me how much exposure I'd get from designing their logo. I'd love to ask them to name ANY designer of ANY logo. Spend your time making the art that only you can make, that you are passionate about, and you will discover untold ways to monetize it."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Answer: "That is very inconsiderate of you. Bloodstains are hard to get out of most surfaces"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bwahaha, take 🙌🏻 my🙌🏻 upvote 🙌🏻. (And yeah, bloods stains are REALLY hard to get rid of)

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People actually think this is cute and acceptable???! Appalling

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know that their r a lot of people who enjoy this style of speaking in a partner/sugarbaby because it is... wait for it.... childish. its a sort if role-playing, and majority if the tine the other person is a pedo 😐.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It looks like it escalated quickly, but it was actually violently manipulative from the start

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do people do this fake "pity me, I hate myself and am also a baby" stuff? I see it posted a lot but can think of ZERO situations where it would be appealing?

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M. William Bell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just threw up in my mouth. And out of my mouth. It’s everywhere.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I write back say "pics, or it didn't happen", but I am a bad person.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm just sorry that there wasn't a single reply at the end: *a lot

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a fundamentally awkward person who normally gets along well with other fundamentally awkward people but this style of chat always makes me cringe so hard. I hate it so much

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wtAf.. my cousin has a studder and he definitely does not studder in his texts! omFG

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the actual F?? Are there really people who are 1) like this and 2) write like this?!?! This is uncomfortable and embarrassing

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

discord kittens... its kinda a role-playing, and usually the person talking like this is trying to get money or something out of the pe do who enjoys it. I was very scared the first time I came across somone like this 😭

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The the actual F*** is this? This person needs some professional help for genuine mental problems.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've encountered someone online doing this kind of weird stammering super fake baby talk thing and was so confused. It's some kind of fad I guess? I'm getting too old for the world wide web I think.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people who speak like this is attain attention from pe dos who enjoy it. I don't recommend it, but search up discord kittens if u want to know more. 😬

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where I can reclaim the uncringey 20 seconds I had before I read this??

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This artist did the best thing to do with creeps like this…totally ignore they exist!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I knew a girl that needed attention like that. Called her out all the time and then she'd try to get our other friend to stop listening to me because she was also beginning to see her b******t.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing im sending this spacko is an apointment at a psyciatric ward

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it mean I would have drawn the death scene and sent that then ghosted?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They need to stop it.... And get some help....

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Geez; after reading this, I hate him, too, and find myself cheering for the stabbing object. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to contemplate how someone can be both depressed and emotionless.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good grief, get a life already, even if it's with Candy Crush, that still will be less pathetic than what's displayed here 😂

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the f**k has happened to this world? Why do people talk like this? What the hell is going on?!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

......and dramatic..... don't forget....very dramatic.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh, the amount of cringiness here makes me feel like turning myself inside out like a sea cucumber.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"pwease.. ?" I can smell the p**s bottles under his desk from here.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why? Why do guys text like this? No one likes it. No one. Stop it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh dear god I only saw one word and I instantly regret my life choices

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing is more irritating than when someone uses an asterisks

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ugh. roleplayers. it hurts me to read that, but to receive it must be even worse.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is some kind of sicko. Who writes in baby talk, then goes on and on with suicide fantasies?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the most pathetic version of guilt-tripping for y'all right here

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is how I picture every woke, LGBTQ+, blue haired under 25er. I'm beyond happy that I chose not to have kids...or whatever this thing is.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There, there. (Pat pat) Let me know when you're back to life.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please, please someone tell me this one was staged and someone just asked a friend to text them something ridiculous and so cringe it would cause the face of anyone reading it to invert so violently that it imploded. I absolutely refuse to believe this is real, and if by some unholy miracle it is, I *refuse* to believe it's by someone above the age of twelve.

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Estrada emphasized the need to break down the stigma surrounding compensation and treatment in order to build a culture that values and respects the contributions of professionals across various industries. "We need to get rid of the stigma of talking about compensation and treatment. Not just with our peers, so we know how to compare what we are being offered to common standards... but to the people who want to hire us. Don't be afraid to question, or ask for what you deserve. Even I have to be reminded sometimes. Last year, I started posting AI-generated comics based on @forexposure_txt quotes and hundreds of people rightfully called me out for going against the very mission of the account. They were absolutely right, and I appreciate their kindness in pointing it out to me so I can do better. Extend that same kindness to the rest of the world, so everything can get better," he said to Bored Panda.

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Ryan's experiences collaborating with various publishers and companies, such as Scholastic, Star Trek, and Garfield, have helped him understand the importance of fair compensation and recognition in the creative industry.

"Anyone whose 'exposure' has ever been worth it for me was already successful enough that paying me was not even a question," he shared with Bored Panda. "It took many years and a lot of hard lessons to know how to stand up for myself, so I hope others can use the ten years of quotes on @forexposure_txt to learn the red flags, know they're not alone, and have the confidence to stand up for what they deserve."

He also urged others to extend the lesson to help and support authors in their own communities. "Like for example, if you enjoyed the ten years of unpaid work I put into @forexposure_txt, buy one of my books! I have a new one called 'Occulted' coming out in May!" he added.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"It's a privilege to work for my benefit" followed by "check your ego at the door", brilliant

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"HR might want a word with you soon." That word's going to be, "We fired the other person for harassment and threats. We apologize. Please don't sue us."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And I expect Hugh Jackman to call and declare his undying love for me, but looks like we're both out of luck.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That man is really gaining points in his running for the 'Biggest Scum on Earth' award.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Saying 'no offence' immediately means that you will say something offensive

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tbf you can also seduce them but you need to bring something to the table to be interesting in the first place

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Careful. He's a violent felon. Weird how they don't introduce him like that. "Live on stage, Violent Felon Chris Brown!! Don't look at him funny he'll slap the s**t outta ya!"

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