
Daughter Wonders If She’s A Jerk For Ruining Her Birthday Party Because She Didn’t Get Great-Grandfather’s Pocket-Watch Interview
Passing on an heirloom is a delicate little gesture. It can become a symbol of continuity and you can continue to cherish the stories ingrained in the ancient paraphernalia. Most importantly — it shows that you are the one remembered by an heirloom. But what if you aren’t the one who was chosen to pick up the invaluable, cherished possession passed from generation to generation? What if the only reason for that is the extra X chromosome you got?
As this 20-year-old tells in her story, for her birthday, the only gift she did expect was the precious heirloom pocket-watch that was handed from generation to generation like some sort of prized baton. Her dear father received it from his old man, and he did from his. Something right up Hemingway‘s alley.
Naturally, devastation followed as soon as the birthday girl learned the real reason why she was not included in this gendered tradition. Worried about whether her disappointment had ruined the party and soured her relationship with her dad, the author of the story turned to the trusted ‘Am I The [Jerk]‘ community to seek some perspective.
Heirlooms are an important part of family tradition and there’s an insurmountable responsibility attached to them
Image credits: Pierre Bamin (not the actual photo)
As of recently, the importance of being passed down your great-great grandmother’s family quilt has reduced. There are a handful of articles claiming that our forefathers struggle with their cherished possessions (now called simply ‘junk’) as millennials reject this time-worn tradition because of their downsizing tendencies.
Still, for those who do look forward to connecting with the generations they have never met — 1-in-4, for example, expecting to inherit the rusty family watch, as New York Post’s survey has found — there are multiple factors to consider before an heirloom causes a major family fallout.
“There are timeless issues regarding passing down a cherished family possession,” Bored Panda is told by Marlene S. Stum, Ph.D. professor at the University of Minnesota and the author of the research-based program ‘Who Gets Grandma’s Yellow Pie Plate?‘. “Whether you’re a biological child or a stepchild — there are many different family configurations. And so there’s always gonna be issues around who is family and how to do it fairly.”
Marlene explains the program was created in the late ’90s when there was little to no information about passing on family possessions. And what was usually suggested was “dividing things equally among heirs” as if every heirloom and every family was the same, she says. “We quickly learned that there were some major gaps both in the research and educational resources. So we started doing our own research to find out what did and didn’t work or what were some of the common issues, particularly around fairness,” Marlene said.
And sometimes these traditions can cause more harm than joy because of their antiquated expectations
The author filled in the missing gaps in her story
So how should one divvy up an heirloom without leaving anyone disappointed? Well, according to Marlene, it all comes down to trying to be fair. “Let’s say a treasured family watch gets transferred to the oldest son generation after generation. And you’re the oldest son and you just learned that your dad passed that same watch to his favorite son-in-law. What’s the message there?”
The point of this example, she says, is to show that each family has different rules and expectations. And the only way to figure out what will be considered fair between your family simply comes down to talking. “People are often surprised to learn that certain family members either aren’t interested or don’t know why they should be interested in the first place,” Marlene pointed out. “Again, it goes down to not making assumptions that everyone should [equally] cherish everything one had and desired the same way years before — there are other ways to carry on stories and family traditions that don’t have to involve a room full of things.”
Another suggestion that should make one’s life easier when deciding who should get grandmother’s precious china comes down to realizing who is family, without picking any favorites. “For some people, it’s really important to keep things in the family,” she said. “I’ve heard examples of people who were not giving things to their only daughter because they knew she’s going to get a divorce. And they didn’t want prized possessions to leave the family.” Sounds like a familiar scenario, right?
People agreed that it was low of her father to continue this quintessentially male-only tradition
Similar to Marlene, Dr. Carl Pickhardt, Ph.D. an Austin-based parenting psychologist believes there’s a lot to ‘unpackage’ when it comes to inheritances and cherished heirlooms. He says that family possessions by nature carry a sense of unfairness that can make things worse when there are multiple possible beneficiaries.
“When feelings of unfairness between (rival) children are already in place, inheritance differences can be seen to illustrate who was favored, and thus a falling out can occur,” Pickhardt explained, adding that differences in parental treatment also can enhance this ‘illusion’. When it comes to children, he argues, it’s usually “whoever gets a favored object will feel favored and those who don’t — favored less.”
But as Marlene reminds us, each family means different rules and complications. “People will always have a different approach to figuring out what fair means to them,” Marlene said. “And the best way to achieve that, of course, is to get input from the family.”
Funny how a girl getting married is no longer part of the family, but a boy is? I as male left my home country, married my soulmate and took her surname. 🤷♂️
It‘s all about the family name I suppose. Or he really thinks women are „less then“
Pretty sure he wants to attach the watch to the name. Which is dumb. A name is just a name and the very assumption that she will give hers up for some imaginary future husband is also dumb.
but according to that logic, a watch is just a watch. Even without the watch they are still family. Just as they are still family if she would change her name. So they are both wrong it seems.
Well or they tie it to the name, and the boy is like me and takes the name of his wife (or husband), and the watch is lost to another family…or however that logic works.
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U are correct.. she should have taken the new watch as a symbol for the old one as a mentor of her closeness with her own father.. plus she could lose the watch u never know life is weird and gets weirder as you get older
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No a name is not just a name. Some people still take pride in who they are and where they come from. As a woman, I have great love for the fact that I given my husband 3 sons to carry HIS name. Our daughter will one day do the same for her husband. It has been that way from the beginning of time. Get over it!!!
Not necessarily: I kept my family name, my husband kept his, and we decided that our kids would be given my family name. But sexism runs deep everywhere, OP is right to be furious!
the name will change anyway. maybe not this generation but it will sure come one day. also a few generations in the future and the heir will be like what war again? and what was the purpose of this old broken item?
I've always hated that old-fashioned attitude too, and actually ended up following the exact same steps as you 🤜 🤛
A daughter's your daughter for all your life, a son's your son 'til he takes a wife.
...? I don't get it. Why is your son not your son if he gets married?
Because he's following his wife around like a lovesick puppy, and she prefers to spend time with HER family rather than deal with her mother-in-law.
Many men will pass down objects to the men, but this also happens with women. My mother recently passed and I was overlooked for many things that went straight to females in the family simply because I am a male. The family members these objects went to will likely sell them or donate them, when the intended purpose was to keep them. Ultimately the person that should hold them is the person who wants to keep them.
You're awesome. But to the sexist ahole male and internalized misogyny boomer: Shut up Kyle and Melinda.
Does he realize that her children will be his grandchildren, but her brother's... well, let's just say that when it comes to those things can get kind of tricky?
Exactly what I was thinking!!!
No matter what the future brings, the person who owns the itrm gets to choose to whom he/she wishes to give it next. So does the next owner... and the one after that, and the one after that - ad nauseum... so each heir gets to leave it to whomever he/she wishes. Seems to me there was no "family law" written as to who gets thr warch. In the event the first born is not a male, that changes everything and apparently, in this case it changed to the heir being "the first male child"... the next generation could engender only daughters... in that case the new generation would have to name their fiest-born.child with the grandfather's surname... so Smith, or Thompson, or Washington, etc etc. No family law that requires a condition be met, should have a contingency when those conditions are not met. Maybe the OP can suggest this to her dad and she can help avoid another broken heart in her family in the future!
How does it get tricky?? I am curious.. Never heard it out that way..
Without DNA testing there is no guarantee the the "brother's" kids and his. How many men have raised kids for a lifetime to find out the kids was someone else's
Except if a kid actually does look like the dad, then it can be guaranteed that they're his.
Shut up David.
Your father didn’t give the watch because you don’t have a penis. He then made it your fault so he didn’t have to feel guilty.
Funny how a girl getting married is no longer part of the family, but a boy is? I as male left my home country, married my soulmate and took her surname. 🤷♂️
It‘s all about the family name I suppose. Or he really thinks women are „less then“
Pretty sure he wants to attach the watch to the name. Which is dumb. A name is just a name and the very assumption that she will give hers up for some imaginary future husband is also dumb.
but according to that logic, a watch is just a watch. Even without the watch they are still family. Just as they are still family if she would change her name. So they are both wrong it seems.
Well or they tie it to the name, and the boy is like me and takes the name of his wife (or husband), and the watch is lost to another family…or however that logic works.
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U are correct.. she should have taken the new watch as a symbol for the old one as a mentor of her closeness with her own father.. plus she could lose the watch u never know life is weird and gets weirder as you get older
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
No a name is not just a name. Some people still take pride in who they are and where they come from. As a woman, I have great love for the fact that I given my husband 3 sons to carry HIS name. Our daughter will one day do the same for her husband. It has been that way from the beginning of time. Get over it!!!
Not necessarily: I kept my family name, my husband kept his, and we decided that our kids would be given my family name. But sexism runs deep everywhere, OP is right to be furious!
the name will change anyway. maybe not this generation but it will sure come one day. also a few generations in the future and the heir will be like what war again? and what was the purpose of this old broken item?
I've always hated that old-fashioned attitude too, and actually ended up following the exact same steps as you 🤜 🤛
A daughter's your daughter for all your life, a son's your son 'til he takes a wife.
...? I don't get it. Why is your son not your son if he gets married?
Because he's following his wife around like a lovesick puppy, and she prefers to spend time with HER family rather than deal with her mother-in-law.
Many men will pass down objects to the men, but this also happens with women. My mother recently passed and I was overlooked for many things that went straight to females in the family simply because I am a male. The family members these objects went to will likely sell them or donate them, when the intended purpose was to keep them. Ultimately the person that should hold them is the person who wants to keep them.
You're awesome. But to the sexist ahole male and internalized misogyny boomer: Shut up Kyle and Melinda.
Does he realize that her children will be his grandchildren, but her brother's... well, let's just say that when it comes to those things can get kind of tricky?
Exactly what I was thinking!!!
No matter what the future brings, the person who owns the itrm gets to choose to whom he/she wishes to give it next. So does the next owner... and the one after that, and the one after that - ad nauseum... so each heir gets to leave it to whomever he/she wishes. Seems to me there was no "family law" written as to who gets thr warch. In the event the first born is not a male, that changes everything and apparently, in this case it changed to the heir being "the first male child"... the next generation could engender only daughters... in that case the new generation would have to name their fiest-born.child with the grandfather's surname... so Smith, or Thompson, or Washington, etc etc. No family law that requires a condition be met, should have a contingency when those conditions are not met. Maybe the OP can suggest this to her dad and she can help avoid another broken heart in her family in the future!
How does it get tricky?? I am curious.. Never heard it out that way..
Without DNA testing there is no guarantee the the "brother's" kids and his. How many men have raised kids for a lifetime to find out the kids was someone else's
Except if a kid actually does look like the dad, then it can be guaranteed that they're his.
Shut up David.
Your father didn’t give the watch because you don’t have a penis. He then made it your fault so he didn’t have to feel guilty.