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A lot of things that we take for granted were not really received with open arms when they were suggested. Even worse, many scientists, inventors, or thinkers, whom we now revere as visionaries, were actually mocked, discredited, and even punished just for their ideas. 

So one netizen wanted to hear about historical figures that were unfairly vilified, only to be vindicated later. From being imprisoned for suggesting that doctors wash their hands, to excommunication over saying the Earth actually orbits the Sun, here are the most interesting examples gathered by the internet. 

#1

45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Ignaz Semmelweis. The world didn’t know about germs yet, but he saw that way fewer women were dying from childbirth when midwives attended the births than when doctors did (doctors were coming from autopsies and wrecking women’s s**t). Ignaz suggested they start washing their hands, and people lost their f*****g minds. Doctors ridiculed him and everyone hated him. He had a “nervous breakdown,” was committed to an insane asylum, beaten by the guards, and died from a gangrenous wound as a result of the beating.

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He didn't discover it, he was told by midwives over and over and over until he looked into it.

Midwives at the hospital observed that when doctors delivered babies, mothers were at a higher risk. Any housewife knew that food would spoil faster if handled with dirty hands and they always used vinegar solutions to clean their hands, tools, and surfaces. Any housewife would do this and midwives did it because mothers and their babies are more important than pumpkin preserves. Only doctors never washed their grubby hands while it was a deeply ingrained habit in most midwives.

Semmelweis listened to women. No wonder they locked him away.

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MargyB
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a gold standard hand hygiene auditor and it is still hard to get doctors to comply

Anyone-for-tea?
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Noooo, how?? You would hope they would be the best at it!

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Sonja
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that the addition is important. He, as a man and expert, listened to women who weren't doctor's and whose deductions didn't come from extensive studies at higher education but common sense and everyday observations. He was outcast and ridiculed, not because the facts and the advice he repeated were wrong, but because the people didn't like his source and had most likely already disregarded it as useless solely because of the fact that it came from women. And we're still not over this! I sometimes feel it's even getting worse again

Aboredpanda
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another clarification is that he did not have a nervous breakdown. His fellow doctors conspired to have him comitted to a mental asylum (because he wouldn't stop insisting), he was severely mistreated there, and died from the injuries. Infection I believe.

Trillian
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you don't know the first thing about germs, how would you NOT wash your hands after digging around in a dead body? That is sooooo nasty.

C.S. E.
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part of the reason the other doctors were to pissed at him was they felt he was implying that they were 'dirty'. They were gentlemen, by god! How DARE they imply we are dirty in any way!

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Huddo's sister
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the additional information on this. Usually I only see the first part mentioned.

Jared Robinson
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AND PEOPLE STILL DON"T WASH THEIR HANDS.

Mabelbabel
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another big maternity scandal was the invention of forceps. The father and son accouchers (birth attendants) invented forceps in the 16th century, at a time when obstructed labour was common (because of poor nutrition, many women had pelvic bone issues that made v*ginal delivery difficult, meaning labour could go on for days leading to the death of the fetus, and often of the mother too. They kept their forceps secret-no one was allowed to be in the room when they used them, and they put up a screen to block the mother's view of what they were using. It was 100 years before the secret was out-many thousands of mothers and babies had died in the meantime, when they might have been saved if the Chamberlens had shared their discovery/invention.

Nikki Gross
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a lab tech in a blood bank for several years. The sheer amount of gloves, soap and hand sanitizer we went through was insane. But, the higher ups loved it because it proved we were using PPE correctly and practicing good hygiene. Other labs that handled the various blood products that we manufactured, were frowned upon if that had below normal orders for the same things in their department.

Boredest Disabled Panda
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2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember reading a novel set in the 1800's, I believe. It described in graphic detail a hospital from that time. Don't know if this is historically accurate, but the author described how nurses would take the bandages from one pus-filled wound on one patient, and put them onto the wounds of people fresh out of surgery. Why on earth would they do that you ask? Because they thought pus was a NORMAL part of the healing process and essential for healing. It really would not surprise me if this scenario actually happened. No wonder most people back then were afraid of hospitals. That's where people died, rather than got better.

CatWoman1014
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly for the life of me don’t understand how they thought now washing their hands was a good idea? And they didn’t wear any gloves, at all? Wow we’ve come a long way

Malfar
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well...anti-maskers exist, so imagining anti-hand washers isn't all that hard.

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    #2

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Sinéad O'Connor. Was villified when she ripped up a picture of the Pope on SNL for child abuse and criticizing the Catholic Church.

    Over the following decades we realized how devastatingly right she was about the whole thing.

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    Craig Staley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, she didn't explain her reasoning until much later. When she did it, all she said was "Fight the real enemy." And her history of being abused as a child wasn't known in America, and the child abuse scandals within the Church hadn't come to light yet. In retrospect, it makes sense as a protest, but at the time it was completely out of the blue.

    Bad Mole
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wasn't out of the blue for all of us.

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    CatWoman1014
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The media bullied her so much during her time. She was a huge advocate for Irish independence and as a catholic she was disgusted by the abuse many children endured by the hands of holy men. For years she was accused of being mentally unwell and just an angry crazy woman. She deserved better, may she RIP and finally get to be with her beloved son.

    Boredest Disabled Panda
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I meet a Catholic, I am always careful not to confuse the institution with their faith and so treat them with respect. But I often wonder how they can so easily overlook all of the many scandals in the church. Particularly when it comes to child abuse. I just couldn't do it myself.

    ThatRandomGuy
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    RIP to that beautiful woman

    Travelling Stranger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this one is rightfully in the first place

    Coyote Osborne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was utterly flummoxed at how people reacted. All those decades - centuries - of hearing people joke about catholic priests fondling kids and having illicit hookups, and then when she said something without joking, nobody made that connection. Everyone knew what was going on and did nothing. She said something and got s**t thrown at her.

    Tessa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree! This was not about people not knowing what was going on, this was about her not voicing the popular opinion, which was (and is still) on the side of the institution of the church.

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    Barbra E. Nyberg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I could never understand why she was vilified.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At the time, Pope John Paul II was quite popular for his sunny demeanor. In the US, the Catholic church was not a dominant as in previous generations or in Ireland. At the time, I wasn't very aware of the scandals, but I knew about Magdalen laundries (legal slavery in Ireland) and had learned about the Catholic Church's heavy-handed dominance in pre-1960s Quebec (Canada). So I had some clue why she ripped the picture. I think one had to have some historical knowledge to understand her gesture.

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    Max Veer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alex Jones was right on more things

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    #3

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Kotaku Wamura, mayor of a town in Japan who spent decades of taxpayer money developing a seawall to defend against tsunamis. During his whole career he was ridiculed for the expenditure and he died before it ever payed off. Then in 2011 it saved the whole town. 

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    Mimi La Souris
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    because Japan has never experienced tsunamis ! I’m being ironic, but it’s like you’re telling me that someone in Los Angeles is being mocked for worrying about earthquakes

    Connie Hirsch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IIRC, the seawall he wanted was higher than standard for the region. The earthquake was so big that the coastline actually lowered in places, so a 30ft seawall became a 20ft seawall in places that the experts thought were adequately protected.

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    The Darkest Timeline
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the price of prevention: if you ask for it, you’ll be criticized for spending the money on something you can’t prove will happen but when it does and the preventative measures work, people will say, “See! It wasn’t that bad; we didn’t need to do anything.” That’s how short-sighted and oblivious people are.

    Westend Revolver
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just a spelling mistake. Kotoku Wamura

    Lotekguy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nice to know that ONE government financed wall was actually a good idea.

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    While more contemporary thinkers and scientists might face a bit of ridicule for novel ideas, the scientific minds of the past risked a lot worse. Both Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo Galilei were threatened by the Catholic church for daring to suggest that, in fact, the Earth was not the center of the universe. Now they have both been completely vindicated by the scientific community. 

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    Ironically, this “I told you so” story is perhaps the reason why we still know them today. As you can imagine, there were not really that many astronomers in 15th-century Europe. Both Galileo and Copernicus were brought back into more mainstream discussions by 19th-century Protestant writers, who used their stories as examples of the suppressive nature of the Catholic church. 

    #4

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Marie Tharp, who drew a map that would help validate the theory of plate tectonics in 1953. Her colleague dismissed it as “girl talk” for over a year. But when the evidence seemed to point to the map being correct, he published the map under his own name and Tharp’s contribution was ignored by both Columbia University (where she worked) and the greater geological community.

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    Inga Paškevičiūtė
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Makes me wonder what other discoveries men stole from women.

    Jessica Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    James Watson and Francis Crick got a Nobel Prize for discovering Rosalind Franklin's notes on the structure of DNA.

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    John Dawson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Check out Hedy Lamar's story... She came up with the idea of frequency hopping, which was eventually used to implement things such as WiFi, bluetooth, but more importantly helps prevent radio signals of guided weapons from be hacked or jammed. She received a patent for this technology. The US government dismissed her, stole her idea/patent and never acknowledged her as the inventor or paid her one cent.

    Alex Luiz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also,she wanted to go out on the ship that gathered data but they wouldn't let her because it was 'too dangerous for a woman'. Instead she was tasked with mapping out the depth of the sea floor,I think leading to the discovery of the Marianna trench. Her first map was so surprising that the male scientists made her redo all of her calculations again from scratch!

    JP Purves
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She also was dismissed because she was astonishingly beautiful and a film star.

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    lonesoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so not fair. Women are always so downplayed in this world. It makes me sick and sad.

    My “in my head” Voice
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read "Lessons in Chemistry," written by Bonnie Garmus. It's fiction, but it's about the same thing in the same era.

    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heck, consider how much medical knowledge was lost through the witch trials and vilification of healers in a community.

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    #5

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Dominique Moceanu - Dominque came forward in 2008 revealing abuse in USA gymnastics before the 2016 sexual abuse scandal. She was accused of being bitter, lying, and seeking attention. She was blacklisted by gymnastics coaches and received threatening e-mails accusing her of basically being a traitor. John Geddert was one of the USA National Team coaches who sent her the following e-mail in 2008: "Dom, Although I am waiting to see the final product, initial quotes and coverage from your Brian Gumble interview have me wondering how you can stab this sport in the back..."John Geddert would later commit s*icide following federal charges of child exploitation and child trafficking of his former gymnasts.

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    cadena kuhn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Watch athlete a. It's heartbreaking

    Upstaged75
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cried during it. I was always a big fan of Maggie, and what they did to her is inexcusable. :(

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    Montanavanna
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The seeking attention excuse always pisses me off.Tell me sir, if you had experience abused would you like people to know?

    Ashley Schriber
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Before Moceanu, there were other people who criticized the whole messed-up culture of elite gymnastics. The journalist Joan Ryan wrote a book about it called "Little Girls in Pretty Boxes" in 1995 and was largely dismissed as an outsider who didn't know any better. Jamie Dantzscher criticized Bela Karolyi for how he behaved in his leadership role at the 2000 Olympics and was dismissed as a whiner. It's only with the sexual abuse scandal that this stuff is no longer being ignored; the emotional and physical abuse was accepted for decades.

    Layla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BP. Suicide is not to be censored. We get it, you're so scared to talk about this horrible reality that effects people every day. Even if you make it taboo, which you're succeeding at, it will only raise the stigma against people experiencing the effect of it.

    Binky Melnik
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not just BP; an awful lotta sites avoid using “trigger words,” and have “content warnings” at the tops of articles to let folks know they may read something that triggers them because some people are such delicate flowers they can’t even see WORDS without some trauma being “triggered.” I spend most of my time on a sports site, and it has content warnings (and it’s an MMA site, for f**k’s sake! People break bones while trying to hurt others, but gentle souls there need trigger warnings!) It’s not BP; it’s the state of the world. I’m just relieved I’ll be dead before it gets *too* much worse.

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    Brian Droste
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems like the female USA gymnastics should have female trainers instead of male trainers for that matter any sports that have a female team should have female trainers. If the USA gymnastic team had female trainers none of this would have happen.

    Captain McSmoot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a sad example where abuse was reported a long time before men and women alike would believe women. Unfortunately, a lot of times when something like the "Me Too" movement happens, there are many fraudulent "victims" who straight up lie just to be a part of it. It's a shame that people feel the need to muddy the waters of a truly just cause because they want attention, the attention that these survivors so desperately need. Very little was and is currently done to the true victim (the falsely accused) once their name is cleared, but their reputation is complete destroyed along with their lives. The tide of truth is quickly turning for those who falsely accuse and legal repercussions await them; I'm looking at you Amber "Turd" Heard.

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    100% incorrect. The Church never threatened Copernicus (who was a Catholic Priest) or Galileo. Galileo was stating his theory of heliocentricism was Fact when he couldn’t prove it. The Church was correct and wise telling Galileo not to insist something is a fact when it cannot be proven. Moreover, he wasn’t ever tortured and died as a faithful Catholic. The Church historically have been sponsors of scientific research, not suppressors. The man who theorized The Big Bang Theory was a priest, the Jesuits are known as the Fathers of Astronomy and it was the Church who originated formal education for the common man and the Church initially established the University Educational system.

    Caroline Nagel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What has this got to do with women athletics in the USA?

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    #6

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Jimmy Carter. He was right about promoting energy independence and transitioning from usage away from fossil fuels to cleaner forms of energy (and he was a former nuclear engineer as well). His stance back in the '70s holds up extremely well, especially in this day and age.

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    CatWoman1014
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine had we listened to him then. Like seriously this is a moment where we should use time travel

    A Nelson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sad because he is still listed as one of the least popular US presidents, but he had a lot of ideas that we should've listened to.

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    maswartz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God I want to live in the timeline where he got a second term.

    MotherofGuineaPigs
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He also negotiated the release of the hostages - Reagan took the credit because they were released on the day he was inaugurated.

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    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    he also proposed and implemented programs to reeducate people with jobs that were becoming more and more obsolete (e.g., steelworkers, autoworkers, punchkey operators, etc.) so that they could work in more skilled/relevant jobs....very few workers took advantage of these programs...and the people in KY, MI, OH, PA have complained to politicians for at least four decades that they don't have jobs and that their communities have collapsed...and you still see politicians saying they will bring the now obsolete jobs back...everyone wants the easy (yet unrealistic) fix...and jimmy carter was just an honest politician offering real solutions...now those same people are all voting for trump, the antithesis of carter...

    Boredest Disabled Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "very few workers took advantage of these programs." I hate to say it, but alot of these people are just whiners. My father got out of extreme family poverty the old fashioned way. His father moved the family to where the jobs were when he was 14. Then, when he was old enough, he joined the military. He stayed long enough to qualify for the GI Bill and the government paid for his college. He then became an aerospace engineer, the first in his family to graduate both high school and college in generations. Meanwhile, the people who stayed behind in that tiny Appalachian town he was from continued to be poor and miserable, and resented our side of the family for our "wealth." We were NOT wealthy, just solidly middle class.

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    SolitaryIntrovert
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He put Solar Panels on the White House roof. Reagan removed them.

    Donna Peluda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same for Maggy Thatcher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnAzoDtwCBg

    Stephanie Barr
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe it was Reagan that took down the solar panels installed on the White House. Biden should put some back (far more efficient now).

    Pamela Blue
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A former nuclear engineer? The man was a peanut farmer. Not knocking peanut farmers but lets get our facts straight.

    Der Kommissar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reagan reversed all of Carter's alternative energy programs because oil is god

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    More tragically, it was not until the 19th century that people started to realize just how much disease and infections are carried by dirty hands. Joseph Lister, a British surgeon was the first to recommend that doctors do the bare minimum of hygiene, like washing their hands and maybe wearing gloves when interacting with a corpse. His critics mocked his ideas and “The Lancet,” the leading medical journal of the time, even issued warnings against his ideas. 

    #7

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Stella Liebeck - The woman who sued McDonald's after being burned by hot coffee. Was vilified as the poster child for frivolous lawsuits. After she died pictures of her burns were published and they are graphic.

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    Amy S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She offered to settle with McDonalds for $20,000 for medical costs but McDonald's refused.

    DC
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen these pictures, and ... she was right. By any and every means.

    Sweetie Dahling
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recently listened to the "You're Wrong About" podcast episode on this case and looked up the pictures as well. It's absolutely horrific what this lady had to go through.

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    Trish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For anyone who thinks Mrs. Liebeck was at fault in any way, please look at the photos. I'll warn you though, I cried when I saw them. It hits different when you know the whole story.

    DarkViolet
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work for McDonald's, and I could never understand why customers put ice in their coffee. One day I purchased a coffee and took a sip. MARY, SWEET MOTHER OF GOD!! It was like drinking boiling hot water straight from a teakettle! I'm not surprised that Ms. Liebeck's injuries were so severe.

    Boredest Disabled Panda
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if this had happened to a man whether there would be more sympathy. Apparently women's genitals don't matter. Imagine getting a third degree burn on the most sensitive part of your body! I read a comment on Reddit saying that it literally MELTED her cliterus. Don't know if that is true but I am guessing that a third degree burn could in fact easily accomplish that feat.

    KittyMommy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Part of the lawsuit brought out the fact that a lot of other people were burned by their coffee. The main victims were small children, dashing around the restaurant and coffee would get spilled on them, normally on their head. McDonald's decided it was cheaper to pay people off than to use water that wasn't so hot. Coffee can be made with fewer beans if the water is hotter than normal.

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    lonesoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg I remember this so well. I just want her to know that we haven't and won't forget it so easily, even after her passing.

    Lillian Tracy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She is still used today as an example of how money hungry Americans are trying so hard to victimize poor defenseless corporations.

    Colleen Foley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is ridiculous bc solely asking for her medical expenses and a modest amount for lost income for her daughter is the opposite of money hungry. I can't even imagine how horrible it was to have her whole crotch burned that badly.

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    Kim Shannon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought this was a frivolous lawsuit until I watched the documentary on it. All she wanted was help paying her medical bills (she needed skin grafts from the burns) and McD's refused. It escalated into a huge lawsuit because McD's was stingy, so no empathy for them.

    Princess Jade
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just googled them, holy hell, never imagined it would be that bad.

    Anna Harding
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just a few days before her case was made public I had gotten burned by McDonalds tea. I took a sip, it was so hot I spit it out. What I spit out landed on my jeans and I wiped it off with my hands. My mouth was so burned it was sore for days, my hand was burned red and my thigh had a burn that lasted for weeks. I took the next day off from work. I almost went to the doctor for my burns but didn’t. McDonalds deserved that lawsuit and I wish I had gone to the doctor for proof as well.

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    #8

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Alan Turing, the British mathematician and computer scientist was persecuted and prosecuted for his homosexuality, which was considered illegal at the time. Turing's work in breaking the Enigma code during World War II was pivotal in Allied victory. He is now celebrated for his contributions to computing and artificial intelligence.

    KimParker69 , Tomipelegrin Report

    Pittsburgh rare
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was chemically castrated, committed suicide a year later, and he wasn't granted pardon until 2013. Let's not forget the little details. One might also want to look until what year homosexuality was prosecuted in the UK.

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1967 in England and Wales (2 years before the US) and 1990 in Scotland.

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    Pamela24
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "...which was considered illegal at the time." Why does this sound like softening of the actual law? It was illegal. 100%. There was a terrible law in effect.

    Wilf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't just 'considered' illegal, the authorities actively prosecuted men for it, with many receiving jail sentences. Men were dishonourably discharged from the armed forces for it, losing their pensions and medals. While homosexuality was decriminalised in the 1960s it took a LONG time for other legal measures restricting gay rights to be removed. Discharge from the army was still around in 2000. It was illegal to teach the presence of homosexuality in schools until 2003. LGBT was a protected characteristic in equality law until 2010. And equal marriage wasn't allowed until 2013 (and it's still not legal in backwards Northern Ireland).

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    EarthGrowl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now certain conservatives are trying to blame the LGBTQ community for the downfall of the power of the church in US. Sorry, No, we aren't letting Christian Extremists make gay people a scapegoat when Americans are fleeing the church because of Christian doctrine and the behavior of Christians in general. America made a mistake of allowing the mentality of Only Good Citizen = Christian to dominate American culture during the Cold-War. The Western world is fleeing Churches because Church doctrine claims the entire world is evil and only Christians are Good. This mentality was somewhat accurate 2000 years ago, when savagery ruled Europe but its not true of modern civilization.

    bob cameron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are a lot of people with good intentions in churches but the history, and present day, record of religion is summed up in two words: exploitation and intolerance.

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    Scented Candle
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People have estimated that his work shortened the war by four years, and yet the he was still arrested and chemically castrated for a part of himself that not only did no harm, but he didn’t choose.

    sofacushionfort
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His sad story is the best one to cite when discussing malem in se (wrong in themselves) vs malem prohibitum (wrong because the law says so)

    irissii (she/them)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    definitely. this is one of the best and most important examples we have of this. also hate how this says "prosecuted" like he was fined or some s**t like that. people need to know what actually happened.

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    Matt Upchuck
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    " homosexuality, which was considered illegal" - to be clear, it wasn't considered illegal ... it was illegal. People were imprisoned and chemically castrated - as was Mr Turing.

    Sahej Bassi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you should watch the The Imitation Game to learn about him.

    Matt Upchuck
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't "considered illegal", it WAS illegal. People were arrested, imprisoned and even permanently castrated using chemicals - as was Mr Turing.

    Mysteria
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This man is where the Turing Test gets its name!

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    #9

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Patricia Stallings comes to mind. Convicted of poisoning her first child, gave birth in prison (kid got taken away) and the kid also dies. Instead of poisoning it was now found it was a genetic defect that had similar effects as poisoning with antifreeze.

    Wisely_0904 , IMDb Report

    cugel.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Similar case here in Oz https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/australia-kathleen-folbigg-pardoned-children-natural-causes-rcna87663

    Emma S
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a similar case in the UK with a woman called Sally Clark. She was imprisoned for the murder of her two babies because medical 'experts' testified that it wasn't possible to have two babies die from cot death. It was later discovered the babies had died from natural causes. Sadly this was only after she'd spent several years in prison and been labelled a baby killer. She turned to alcohol to cope with her trauma after her release and drank herself to death within six years of her release.

    Elizabeth Mellisa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her 2nd son didn't die right after, he was diagnosed with methylmalonic acidemia (MMA). Patricia's son, David P. "D.J." Stallings, Jr., died in 2013, at the age of 23.

    Deanna Crichley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This episode of Forensic Files was on just last night.

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    Kim
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like the Dingo stole my baby mommy

    Leeza Martinez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    was she freed after this realization?

    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, how common is that genetic defect?

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    #10

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Stanislav Petrov. More people need to know his name, he literally, like quite literally saved the world. Saved the world from nuclear ruin, simply because he was stubborn and refused to believe the computing error. He went against his position orders, and was consequently sacked by the USSR and lived an isolated life. Not necessarily vilified by all, but vilified by the USSR and ignored by the west. Put some respect on his name. And he didn't even win a Nobel peace prize, died in 2017. Recommend watching 'Stanislav Petrov, the man who saved the world'.

    Weebla , Stanislav Petrov Report

    Chris Cristo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We need at least 5 of them right now! I hope I'm exaggerating but...

    Nina
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What exactly did he do (or fefuse to do)?

    Malfar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In 1983 he was the duty officer at the command center for the Oko nuclear early-warning system, and there was a glitch in the system - the system reported that USA launched a several nuclear missiles. He went against the Soviet orders and dismissed this as a false alarm instead of launching a retaliatory nuclear attack.

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    Skip Reynolds
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same can be said for Vasily Arkhipov. Yep- ANOTHER Russian who also saved the world.

    lonesoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why there is a dislike on your comment when what you said was true

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    Lola July
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Obama won Nobel Peace Prize for NOTHING

    Sven Horlemann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, if the wikipedia entry is to be trusted, he received a lot of recognition later in life. Thankfully.

    Coyote Osborne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He saved the planet I'm living on.

    Heather Talma
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean if you're going to say more people should know about him you should at least give more details about what he actually did.

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    #11

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Monica Lewinsky. She was a 20-y-o White House intern who got taken advantage of. Then the media crucified her for it.

    slappy_mcslapenstein , Helene C. Stikkel Report

    Pamela24
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. No one is saying she did everything right. Not even her. She made some very dumb choices. But who hasn't when they were in their early 20s? Picture the stupidest thing you did at that age. Imagine the entire world hearing about it, being made fun of by everyone, your name becoming a synonym with that mistake and it having an effect on literally every day after that. I honestly don't understand how she even managed to survive and I admire the work she's done since and her sense of humour so much. Also - Linda Tripp deserves to rot in hell.

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her personal life was used by opposition political forces to get at a popular president. I think Clinton should have acted much, much differently, but it certainly wasn't his intention to put her in the spotlight. Just the reverse. She was not the GOP's target, but she sure took the collateral damage.

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    Gabby Ghoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She has quite a sense of humor but then I wonder how she'd have survived without one.

    𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To those who think she deserved to be crucified for having an affair with a married man: the greater burden of fidelity lies with *the married man*. Yes, it was stupid of her to have an affair with a married man, but she was not bound by any promises as regards to Bill Clinton's marriage - HE WAS. But sure, pillory the woman. It was he who made a vow to remain faithful when he married, not Monica. She was wrong for having an affair with him, certainly. But he was the one who cheated, then lied, and then lied some more to deflect any responsibility from himself. I'm tired of men getting a pass when they cheat and the blame for the whole affair going to the woman. It was HIS marital obligation (since I assume he had a traditional Christian ceremony) to refuse and resist any extramarital "offers and opportunities", and he didn't.

    Chris Landrum
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think she has accepted this and has a great sense of humor about, from tweets I have seen of hers

    j miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, don't blame the wealthy older powerful guy that was her boss, SHE was the one that did something wrong.

    MR
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What was she "right" about in hindsight? This one doesn't fit the category.

    Sara Wilson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead of the much older, more powerful man that I'm sure promised her EVERYTHING. She made a mistake and has paid for it, while he pretty much got away with it, again, as per usual

    Jane Hower
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What pisses me off is that her DAD didn't raise holy hell with Clinton for what he did to his daughter. He was a limp useless pos in that case. What a crappy man he was.

    Dimp1961
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't realise she was so young!!!

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    #12

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Courtney Love. I’m referring specifically to the fact that she called out Harvey Weinstein publicly long before what we know now, and everyone kind of just dismissed her.

    violentfemme17 , Manfred Werner Report

    Ross “Sarcastic Dad”
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was right, but when you act like a lunatic 95% of the time, it's hard to know when to take you seriously the 5% of the time. And for the record, she had a lot of trauma and I understand why she was the way she was.

    lenxia buda
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    Another comment by another fkn man talking absolute BULLS**T...

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    GirlFriday
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her and Rose McGowan attempted to expose him years before the scandal broke. Both of their careers were ruined for it.

    Bobert Robertson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    tbh I'd dismiss her too (sure probably unfairly) but she just seems totally unhinged and hard to trust.

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it was an open secret in the industry...i remember there was even a joke about it on 30 rock well before the me too movement

    Mental Liberals
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And we STILL haven't seen his list of people who need nooses!!!!!

    Pamela Blue
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but when someone who is either drunk or high 90% of the time makes comments about people, one tends not to pay a lot of attention. This one doesn't surprise me a bit.

    Captain McSmoot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A broken clock is correct twice a day. She was nuts way more often and about more topics before; by the time she said something worth any sane value, people were already tuning her out.

    It doesn't take a genius to realize that a surgeon with clean hands will leave more patients alive. So if you ever think about how romantic it would be to travel to the past, just remember, your doctor would have probably handled a corpse, stitched a wound, eaten lunch, delivered a baby, and who knows what else, before they get around to assisting you. 

    #13

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Dixie Chicks. They were against the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and publicly said so. They were effectively cancelled by the right as a result. Turns out they were correct, there were no weapons of mass destruction. The invasion was concocted so Bush could be seen as striking back for 9/11, which won him re-election in 2004.

    dare978devil , Wasted Time R Report

    John W
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jacques Chirac French president, and subsequently everything French was vilified and mocked for not wanting to attack Irak based on the American government lies. Remember freedom fries? As a French person living in the US, I do.

    Pittsburgh rare
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember it as well. The French were right all along. I'm Spanish, so we suffered the biggest terrorist attack in our history because president Aznar sided with Bush in a pathetic attempt to gain international recognition. Aznar has never been held accountable for anything, btw.

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    The Scout
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember the political reactions here in Germany. "Excuse me, Mr. President, I am NOT convinced!" (Joschka Fischer, foreign minister of Germany at the time). Showing pictures out of a computer game as "proof" in an UN conference? Really? Iraq, although being a brutal dictatorship, also had universal healthcare, free education at university level, and one of the very few secular education systems of the region. But to be fair: Iraq once HAD weapons of mass destruction. Delivered by the US in the 80s to build up a counterweight to Iran after their "Islamic Revolution". There simply were none left when the US finally invaded. Sadam probably used up most of them in his quarrels with the Iraq kurds and the invasion uf Kuwait. There are only records of Sadam and Osama bin Laden having met once, many years before 9/11. According to witnesses, the two could not stand each other.

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The people who decry "cancel culture" today were perfectly fine this then.

    Andy Frobig
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not cancel culture when they do it, just ask them

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    DB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did the right also force them to change their name?

    BigCityLady
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was Cheney who was a war monger and had wanted to invade Iraq and Rove convinced him that IF America was at war, his re-election would be a shoe in as Americans would want to finish the military invasion. Then we had Rumsfeld who was manipulating intelligence in the Pentagon that he would then hand deliver to Cheney to help push Bush to advance towards pulling the trigger.

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    D**k CHENEY :the 46th vice president of the United States from 2001 to 2009 under President George W. Bush. He was an early proponent of invading Iraq, alleging that the Saddam Hussein regime possessed a weapons of mass destruction program and had an operational relationship with Al-Qaeda. When Cheney became eligible for the draft, during the Vietnam War, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer George C. Wilson interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." THIS IS ONE OF THE GUYS WHO SENT THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS TO THEIR DEATH ! THIS IS ONE OF THE GUYS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF IRAQ AND THE DEATHS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI PEOPLE ! THIS IS ONE OF THE GUYS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MESS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE CREATION OF AL-QAEDA !

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Three Miscreants : Three commandments drive the Bush administration's big-power strategy beyond Iraq: Punish France, ignore Germany, and forgive Russia. That vivid formula was reportedly suggested in policymaking councils recently by Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's national security adviser.

    Paul Richards
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Iraq war round2 is so illegal w and Cheney should be prosecuted for war crimes

    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't post anymore about stuff like this otherwise i end up on a list.

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    #14

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Doctor Clair Cameron Patterson not only discovered the true age of the Earth with his research in Lead-dating, but during this process he accidentally discovered the dangers of lead contamination. Then he went “wait, we’re putting this s**t in gasoline, cans, paint, etc.” He then began campaigning against lead in everyday products. In particular, he targeted the gasoline industry. *You can imagine how that went in the courtroom*. He was vilified, excluded, and slandered against but kept pushing for lead to be removed from gasoline. Took decades, but obviously lead was removed from gasoline almost entirely by 1990

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What pisses me off is that, being born in 1960, I was breathing lead-laced air for 30 years before leaded gas went off the market. My mother had breathed it for 70 years at the point. That means I, as well as anyone who was born before 1990—and babies born to anyone born before then—-have traces of lead in my lungs, not just from air I breathed directly, but from the air my mother breathed while I was in her womb. A heavy metal forced on me from even before I took my very first independent breath, totally without my consent. Even worse, it’s not the only harmful substance that has been put in us without our consent. Hell, without our even being made aware of it. Now we have traces of goddamned plastics in us. FFS. We should ALL be extremely pissed off about this, and be doing something, anything—-everything—-to end production of such materials, and prosecute those responsible for continuing to produce them after being made aware of the risks, to get this non-consensual abuse to stop. You’d do it if someone was feeding you poison-laced food every day. Well, a load of companies are poisoning ALL of us everyday on a massive scale. They should be punished as well.

    Debby Keir
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Twaddle, it's been known for millennia that lead was toxic. *Lead's toxicity was recognized and recorded as early as 2000 BC and the widespread use of lead has been a cause of endemic chronic plumbism in several societies throughout history. The Greek philosopher Nikander of Colophon in 250 BC reported on the colic and anemia resulting from lead poisoning.* He publicised it, yes, with up to date evidence, but he didn't 'discover' its toxicity.

    Dark Pigeon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and it is still used. I'm just giving up on humans, such f*****g idiots we are.

    #15

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Rose McGowan for calling out Harvey Weinstein.

    infjwritermom , Rhododendrites Report

    Mouse
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems many women called out Weinstein & were ignored.

    JK
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's fine, we're used to being ignored, just have to wait until a man *thinks* of it

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    Tyranamar Seuss
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But wasn't she a little unhinged. You can call people out without being out of control. I don't remember the calling out being the issue. Everyone knew he was a total creepazoid by then. There was other stuff going on. I just don't remember exactly what it was.

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    #16

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Lindy Chamberlain The 'A Dingo Killed My Baby' lady. She was vilifed, mocked and ridiculed across the world. She then spent three years in prison, before it turned out she was actually telling the truth the whole time, and a dingo did, in fact kill her baby.

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    Isabella
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MargyB did not deserved all the downvotes, I think she was referring to the episode from Seinfeld when Elaine, who was at a party, is saying to a lady who was keep looking for her "baby" (who was her fiancee) , "A dingo eat your baby". Despite the sad story behind this, Elaine's reaction was hilarious.

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    (at least in the u.s.) the papers said she didn't cry or behave like a normal mother would after losing a child...idiots...not all people can cry in public...i remember feeling awful that i could not cry at my father's funeral...i cried for hours alone, but i don't know why i just have never been able to show "weakness" in public...not all people grieve the same...she wasn't like casey anthony, posting selfies or goign to parties...

    Boredest Disabled Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's actually pretty normal to go numb after a death. It's a mechanism that allows people to carry on with taking care of funeral arrangements and other necessary things. Imagine if, on top of that, everyone was looking at you with suspicion. If numbness is already your coping mechanism, you are just going to become more numb the more you are attacked.

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    MargyB
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    Maybe a dingo took your fiancé'!

    AlienBarbu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    there was even a band called this in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, one of the characters, Oz which was played by Seth Green was in this band.

    Doodles1983
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dingoes Ate My Baby. Came to see if anyone brought it up!

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    Yoyolanda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry but I can only think about that Seinfeld episode

    Cassie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More wild to me was the timeline of events. In 1980, the news came out that her baby was missing and they believed she was involved. The trial was in '82 and she and her husband (I don't even recall the husband ever mentioned in the news in the US, but he was charged) were convicted and jailed. For years, her appeals were rejected. In the US, all of this was major news. But I didn't know that new evidence had come to light in '87 and that they were officially pardoned and even paid damages in '92. It was well established in the US media that she was guilty and seemingly remained so until the 2012 inquest determined that the child had, indeed, been taken by a dingo. Worst still, the initial inquest agreed that the evidence showed that the baby likely had been taken by a dingo.

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then had the bad luck of Meryl Streep and ‘that’ accent in the film.

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why the downvote? It was a terrible accent. Even Streep has said so!

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    KombatBunni
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember watching this on the news the day after it happened and feeling so sad for her and her family. And I was so angry at how she was treated :(

    Lola July
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so sad. I am glad the truth came to light!

    Brian Droste
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember hearing about this case. I believe she partly found guilty because she didn't show the normal signs of grieving when someone looses a loved one .I believe I read somewhere that some people, don't recall if it was some type of authority people found the clothes of her baby in a cave or a den of dingoes.

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    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Barry Marshall (and also Robin Warren his co-researcher). Forever, the cause of peptic ulcers was believed to be stress, spicy food and too much acid production. They believed it was actually of bacterial origin. No one believed them, they were ridiculed because the belief was that bacteria couldn't survive in the acidic environment of the stomach. Not until Barry took a cocktail of H. pylori bacteria, which caused him to have massive inflammation of the stomach which was found to be colonized with the bacteria, but a course of antibiotics later and it was gone. One Nobel prize later and now the treatment of peptic ulcers is turned on its head and instead of months or years of discomfort it can often be sorted with a week or two course of anti-biotics. 

    Djinjja-Ninja , WikiEdtingProfile2021 Report

    Jackie Lulu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Dad had half his stomach removed because of that.

    Julia H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad suffered his entire adult life with ulcers...also losing 75% of his stomach. All he wanted was to be able to enjoy a tomato

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    CT
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad had ulcers for years, he read an article about H. pylori and he told his doctor who didn't know about it (it was late 1990s or early 2000s). He took an antibiotic and never had an ulcer again. Life changing. Thanks to Barry Marshall and Robin Warren

    sofacushionfort
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Although I do miss that quote from Harry Truman: “I don’t get ulcers, I give them!”

    Zaach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The theory was accepted only after the drug treatment for ulcers became generic and was no longer a money maker

    Sven Horlemann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another hero. Standing up for what is right. And following through. Respect!

    Coyote Osborne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are _still_ doctors who refuse to treat ulcers properly, to this day, and continue to give people the treatment path that goes from antacids and "nerve pills" (antidepressants, valium-alikes), on to stomach cancer and removal.

    Doodles1983
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Antibiotics and stomach healing ppi

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    there is also some evidence that certain forms of autism may be the result of exposure to bacterial nuerotoxins fro gut bacteria...

    AsylumWalker
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    no, that's not at all what the evidence says. autism symptoms can be exacerbated by gut microbe issues, but it is not caused by it

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    #18

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Pearl Jam war with Ticket master.

    In 1994, American rock band Pearl Jam filed a complaint with the antitrust division of the U.S. Department of Justice, claiming that Ticketmaster has a "virtually absolute monopoly on the distribution of tickets to concerts" and attempted to book its tour only at venues that did not use Ticketmaster. However, no action was taken on Ticketmaster.

    Sensitive-Whereas574 , GabboT Report

    Barbra E. Nyberg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And ticketbast%$ds are still at it.

    Ross “Sarcastic Dad”
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nobody thought Vedder was wrong at the time. All his fans supported him. To the point that at every concert they chanted "Ticketmaster Sucks" and he had to get them to stop so he could continue the show. He wasn't vilified in the least.

    Squirrel puppet theater
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. Most music fans who attended shows often were well aware of their awfulness. Sometimes your ticket fee would double the cost of the ticket! Just unbelievable greed.

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    Mouse
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was hilarious to me when Taylor Swift fans had a melt down over Ticketmaster. Not funny it happened, but funny to realize they never heard of Pearl Jam.

    ConstantlyJon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    legit question: what WAS ticketmaster in 1994? It couldn't have been a place to buy tickets online in 1994. Was it a number you called and they mailed you tickets or something?

    Squirrel puppet theater
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You could buy the tickets at the venues. You could also buy tickets at places like Tower Records, at least in LA and other big markets.

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    James016
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now it's Live Nation who run practically everything, they own Ticketmaster, the venues, everything

    Shiva Ho
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why don't they just do their own mail orders for tix like the Grateful Dead did years ago & cut out the Ticketmaster and Scalpers!

    #19

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them The Deep-sea exploration community warning OceanGate against ocean tourism. OceanGate basically told them to mind their business.

    redman9000 , Jholman Report

    Yoyolanda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everybody knew that. It was just certain individuals that chose to not listen to facts.

    Boredest Disabled Panda
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had never even heard of OceanGate before this happened, but I can't believe how stupid he was to use material that wasn't thoroughly tested for that environment. I get the impression that his ego just wouldn't let him admit that he could possibly be wrong. I think this would have disgusted my late father, who was an aerospace engineer. He took his job so seriously that he was criticized for working too slow. But he knew if he made a mistake, people could die. He was meticulous, not slow.

    Roxanne D'souza
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From my understanding, the material was efficient for that kind of exploration missions. However, with every trip they took, the material got weaker after withstanding that much pressure. To keep their tube strong, they would have to build a new one or replace major portions of it after every few trips to make sure it worked properly the next time. And that would have cost a lot. So they played a dangerous game.

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    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You ever see the chart where it's the guy explaining how if you f**k around you're gonna find out? Sorry to say, they really really wanted to find out.

    jiajun xiao
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why lock yourself in a tube if you already have a mansion?

    #20

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them John Snow. He tried to remove the handle of a water pump in London that was drawing its water downstream from a sewage pipe People who drew water from the pump caught cholera.

    PsychologyStock8353 , Originally from en.wikipedia Report

    John O'Donnell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s a pub on the site of the water pump named after him.

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s a pub named after him in Soho.

    Liliko
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is considered the 'founding father' of epidemiology! Previously people thought that illness spreads through bad smells called 'miasma'

    Linda Riebel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But he actually succeeded in removing the handle and proving his case.

    Panda Boi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read "The Ghost Map" if you want to learn more about this.

    Alan Gale
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He did get the pump handle removed.

    Full Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A 30-word summary of a very interesting book. Snow used maps to illustrate his reasoning. As a geospatial information analyst, I find his work to be amazing.

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    #21

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Charles Darwin. There’s a whole book on how scared he was to publish his work because he knew he’d be hated for it. The Reluctant Mr. Darwin by David Quammen.

    catmandude123 , Leonard Darwin Report

    DC
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... and people still refuse to accept proven knowledge because an old fairy tale tells them a different story. Some dude even calculated the exact date of creation from biblical sources and concluded it to having happened in October, 4004 BC or so.

    UpQuarkDownQuark (he/hey you)
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was Irish Bishop James Ussher who calculated the biblical age of the Earth in the 1600s. It took years of research and the collection of manuscripts from all over the Western world to fill in the gaps between the Old Testament’s “begats” and later book’s’ verifiable dates. It was brilliant research for its time, although based on the idea that the Bible—an absolute mess of contradictory and brutal myths—should be treated as any kind of authority on early historical matters.

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    Paul Pienkowski
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He did what was right, not what was easy. And he changed the world for the better.

    Timmy Pillinger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He only did it when a colleague accidentally revealed that he was about to publish more or less the same thing

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    The Scout
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't worry, his works will be illegal soon enough, if U.S. creationists get their way... And unfortunately it currently looks like it.

    Donna Peluda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After what happened to Copernic it's not surprising. Sad thing is that 50% of Americans still don't believe him.

    -
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Copernicus wasn't punished for writing that the earth went around the sun, but Galileo was put under house arrest.

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    lonesoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A person with another similar situation would be Galileo Galilei

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you should check out the creation museum in KY...they have humans and dinosaurs eacefully coexisting...https://creationmuseum.org/

    Jon Lee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Which is why it is complete and utter bollocks.

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    Stephen Smith
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like a fantasy book. He know he would be hated because he stole the theory of evolution from Alfred Russel Wallace. He sent his theory to Darwin for a peer review, and Darwin stole it and published it as his own work. It's also forgotten that in 1858 the two men published a joint paper on the theory of evolution. Then in 1859 Darwin published his book and claimed the credit for it all.

    Boredest Disabled Panda
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't accurate to say that Darwin "stole" Wallace's work. They both independently came up with the same theory, which isn't an uncommon thing to happen in science.

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    Brian Droste
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because of his book millions even possibly billions believe in the Theory of Evolution. I don't just to clarify. I believe in the creation account of the Bible.

    Lambda Omegamoo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as put to me by my extremely patient science teacher after I yelled at her in class; Darwinism is a theory, and probably always will be, but Evolution is Fact. Everything IS always changing. Evolution and Darwinism are two separate things. I used to believe in the Christian version of the bible and the accounts, but the more I learn about science and The Universe, I just can't see it any more than a book of stories and diary entries mis-translated. Creationism itself is also a theory, one I personally can no longer defend.

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    #22

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them John Yudkin was a food scientist who tried hard to push the idea that sugar caused heart disease and obesity amongst other conditions. He suggested a low carb diet for weight loss in 1958. The sugar industry paid scientists like Ansel Keys and D. Mark Hegsted to downplay this connection and suggest that dietary fat caused obesity and heart disease. Massive lobbying helped pro sugar scientists to become advisors to government and officially suggest a low fat diet to prevent heart disease. Taking fat out of food makes it taste bad, so what do they add? More sugar, causing the food to be unhealthier. The demonising of fat lasted well into the 2000's and often still persists to this day.

    Fallenangel152 , Joanna Spence Report

    DC
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The demonising of carbohydrates isn't really better. The length of the chain molecules has a major effect on the speed of absorption, and therefore, not all carbohydrates, even not all sugars, are the same. Just like fats. Some counter inflammations, some push them. The same? In regard to nutritious energy, for sure. For any else? No.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way I understand it is that artificial fats and carbs should be severely restricted, if not eliminated, from our diets. At least only eaten as a once in a great while treat—-no one’s trying to deny anyone a slice of cake on their birthday, they’re just saying don’t start living on cake alone. Natural fats and carbs are OK, but should still be eaten in moderation. Everything in moderation. Am I on the right track with that?

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    SheHulk
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Pure, White and Deadly"!

    Chris Landrum
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have also learned that cholesterol in food does not directly lead to it in the blood.

    Pittsburgh rare
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's virtually impossible to find sugar free products that aren't packed with sweeteners 🙄

    Sammie 19
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All artificial sweeteners give me migraines. Used to chew gum until I realised it was the artificial sweeteners in them giving me never ending migraines.

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    Barbra E. Nyberg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I refuse to buy fat free food cause it tastes bad.

    Yo-kai Pro
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The stuff they sub into the food can sometimes be worse

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    SkekVi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    obesity isn't real and fatness can't be 'cured' anymore than red hair or freckles can be 'cured'. because it's not a 'disease' it's just a normal variation in humanity. ffs a huge part of human survival traits we evolved on purpose that helped us survive as well as we do is GETTING FAT.

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    #23

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them George Carlin. People used to think he was a hippy spouting off idealistic governmental propaganda. The man was a prophet.

    Majestra1010 , Alex Lozupone Report

    Kelly Scott
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    George Carlin saw through all the BS our politicians and society lay on us and he wasn't afraid to call it out. He was the kid who said the emperor had no clothes on and he was right on with all his assessments of what is wrong in life today. RIP George. We miss the hell out of you.

    René Sauer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay? Who? What exactly did he do?

    DarkViolet
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin

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    KrazyChiMama
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love to hear his take on what's happening today...he was brilliant and hilarious in my opinion.

    Amy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get the feeling he'd start off with "I f*****g told you so!"

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    Shiva Ho
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely My Hero growing up! Taught Me all I needed to know about the lies Society tried to brainwash Me with!

    WindySwede
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    what did/din't he do?

    Lotekguy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many of his standup specials are online at multiple sources. Watching some would be vastly more informative and entertaining than any answer Pandas could offer.

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    Sven Horlemann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A friend brought me a DVD with Carlin from his trip to the US. I found it... a bit brutal. And I am German. Over the years, I really learned to appreciate and love what he did. Today, I think he wasn't brutal enough.

    Shawn Barry
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when I hear people promoting 'cornhole games' a beanbag toss game but with corn instead of beans. I always wonder have they never heard any George Carlin material?

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    #24

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Richard Jewell was blasted as being the Atlanta Olympic Bomber when he was really just a guy helping people out down there. He deserved better.

    Mahaloth Report

    Connie Hirsch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His quick thinking and correct actions really did save lives -- he was the right man in the right place, and should have been hailed as a hero.

    Julia H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are so quick to jump in to accuse without checking first. It's a bell which cannot be unrung.

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    Leeza Martinez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I lived in Atl during this and many of us never believed it.. the evidence was all circumstantial... but the media tried and convicted him in just a few short days.... it was and remains horrible

    Lola July
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    He was truly a Hero and the stinking FBI VILIFIED HIM! LIKE THEY ARE DOING TO TRUMP! LIKE THEY DID TO MLK!

    Duckie Measles
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You truly are an embarrassment. Don't disrespect Dr. King by comparing him to that disgusting dotard.

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    #25

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Nicolaus Copernicus, theorized that the planets actually circled the sun instead of the other way around. The church initially accepted heliocentricacy but banned his views in 1600s.

    buckmaster86 , Unknown author Report

    ADJ
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder how far would the science be by now if religion was not slowing the scientific progress for centuries.

    Trillian
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And how far we could have come in 100 years if religion and conservatism weren't doing the same thing right now.

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    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    actually the theory of the planets going around the sun dates back to ancient greece. Even the Talmud in 499 mentioned it. In the 900s a pope even wrote it wasnt heresy to believe that. What happened what, he was in a fight with the church and they were looking for an excuse to destroy him

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    Lola July
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Bible actually mentions this.

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    #26

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Corey Feldman exposing all the pedos in Hollywood.

    Jaxteller91 , Super Festivals Report

    Miss Tinker
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But has he? He's talked about them for years but ever actually named names.

    Jo Davies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feldman names actor Charlie Sheen, registered sex offender Marty Weiss, convicted child molester Jon Grissom, and Alphy Hoffman as abusers that sexually assaulted him and Haim.

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    Heather W
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Truth:_The_Rape_of_2_Coreys

    Persephone hates Pomegranate ️
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I first saw Corey Feldman in The Lost Boys, and when I looked into him more, my heart broke. But now I follow him and his wife on Instagram, and they look so happy together.

    Zoe Vokes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry to tell you but he and his wife announced their separation earlier this month. Apparently her chronic fatigue took a toll on their marriage.

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    EarthGrowl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did Corey finally name his abuser?

    Mental Liberals
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    And still nothing was ever done! They are ALL in hollyweird and government, oh, don't forget the rest of the elitists!!

    The Darkest Timeline
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No mention of all the cases involving religious folks? No, it’s all just Hollywood and government to right wing conspiracy theorists.

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    No photo equals lazy post.

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    #27

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them I would say the UN Chief Inspector, Hans Blix, who said in a 2003 report that the UN investigation team had found no evidence of WMD in Iraq. Completely torn apart by the American government, public, and press. And yet… no WMD were ever found in Iraq.

    Strong-Persimmon7071 , Frankie Fouganthin Report

    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have always been an analytical person. I look at the evidence and try to figure out what’s really going on. Couple that with being a classic Doubting Thomas, and you have a lifetime of not taking the majority of stuff I’m told at face value and just finding out for myself (employers f*****g hate this, they’d prefer mindless automatons who take orders without question). So, when the WMD b******t came out, I took out my magnifying glass and looked at the published surveillance plane photos that were supposed to show WMDs. Couldn’t see ANYTHING that resembled any part of a missile. Nothing. I knew we were being gaslit into believing something that was patently untrue. But people told me I was wrong, although when I challenged them to show me the missiles in those pictures, they couldn’t find them either.

    Vidas Zlioba
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't just missiles, though. The WMD thing included chemical agents and bioweapons as well. Blix wasn't looking only for missiles.

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    Karl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t forget Dr David Kelly who was hounded to his death over his objections to the WMD dossier

    Der Kommissar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Colin Powell presenting sample of yellowcake to the UN. This propaganda helped GW Bush launch the 2nd invasion of Iraq AP21291489...70d5d8.jpg AP21291489444036-64f278870d5d8.jpg

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not one person that i knew at the time beleived there were WMDs in Iraq...it was just an excuse for Geo. W. to finish what his dad started in Iraq...everyone knew it...everyone...but few people in positions of power wanted to say it at the time b/c people were still reeling from 9-11

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    president CHIRAC and 68 million french are still villified TODAY for not believing the US c**p ! not a single word about that ! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !

    Debrina Blackmoon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok, tbh I believe some/many "people" are the WMDs.

    Haywood Jablome
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was also torn apart by sharks in Kim Jong Il's palace

    Pandarara
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just been fired for this exact trait

    DJR
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Saudis and Pakis crash planes into US buildings. US invades Iraq and Afghanistan, bankrupts itself, and finds the mastermind in Pakistan. And people think governent is the only entity that can be trusted with guns. Please explain like I'm five.

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    #28

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Joseph Lister. One of the first doctors to publicly endorse germ theory and recommend disinfection. At the time surgeons would literally move from an amputation, to an autopsy, to the delivery room using the same tools often without even cleaning the gore from their hands and clothes. When Lister recommended comprehensive disinfection between procedures nearly the whole British medical community laughed at him. He spent years as a pariah gathering data from his own practice until he could finally prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that his methods reduced post-op infection by a staggering rate. Now he's known as "The father of modern surgery."

    SirKedyn , Unknown author Report

    Nicole Weymann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He still got off lightly compared to Ignaz Semmelweis currently at #4 (1818 to 1865), who likewise got ridiculed and ended up in an asylum, where he got severely beaten by the guards and soon after died from the aftereffects.

    Annymoose
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure, ignore all the midwifes who urged men to wash their damn hands. Go on and erase us from history, only white dudes get the credit.

    Estelle
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is he the founder or inspiration for Listerine?

    The Scout
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was named after Lister, as the inventor originallly developed it as a desinfection agent for operation tables. It did not sell well, though, so it was distributed to dentists for mouth infections instead. The commercial success came when in the 1920 advertising focused on Listerine being good against halitosis - which before that campaign simpy was not seen as a big problem. Some historian once said "Lambert Pharmaceuticals did not invent mouthwash as much as they did invent halitosis...".

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    Mariaf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's mindblowing to me that 120 years later we still have to convince people to wash their hands and still being met with resistance as if it's a going to kill them if they use soap and water.

    Susan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially mind blowing when these people, who claim to be germaphobes, don't wash their hands when they sit down to eat but instead pull a wet wipe out of their bag, wipe it across their hands and call it good.

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    marianne eliza
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An actual excuse from doctors back then was that gentlemen's hands are clean and free of disease, just because they're gentlemen, as opposed to peasants who were always unclean.

    Linda Riebel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ignaz Semmelweis, another medical hero.

    Krysta Pandoo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the guy who watched the midwives.

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    #29

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Stanley Prusiner. Everyone who was anyone in science knew that proteins couldn't be an infectious agent. They weren't even alive! He suffered so much mockery and scepticism... until the mad cow disease, and kuru etc, were found to be precisely what he had described.

    Common-Wish-2227 , Sir kiss Report

    My “in my head” Voice
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another post that apparently assumes we already know the story.

    Catherine Graves
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He postulated that mad cow disease and kuru (found in Africa, transmitted by monkeys) were linked to the discovery of prions found in infected brains. These illnesses are all fatal. Prions are a type of protein, and further research shows he was correct. There is still no effective treatment for these diseases. I remember reading that the first interest in this discovery was in the food industry, at the time using a distillation from broth taken from sheep brains to make canned gravy.

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    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i think OP means "prions" not "proteins"

    martin734
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A prion is basically a mis-folded protein.

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    #30

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them The journalists who maintained Lance Armstrong was doping when he was winning the Tour de France. I remember they were mocked because they admittedly went to extremes hunting for evidence. I remember reports of them sifting through Armstrong's trash. Lance Armstrong was a great story, a testicular cancer survivor who beat the disease and went on to set the record for most Tour de France victories (was it 7?). He was untouchable. Anyone contesting he was cheating was shamed. I remember the journalists investigating him were mostly French, so they were dismissed because they were sour that an American was breaking the Tour de France records. I remember other Tour winners such as Greg Le Mond and Floyd Landis also contesting that Armstrong was cheating, and both being silenced/shamed. Landis had tested positive himself for doping so he wasn't considered a reliable source. I remember with Le Mond they dug into his history and brought up child abuse he suffered as a result of him making claims against Armstrong. Turns out they were all right.

    SultanofShiraz , Benutzer:Hase Report

    Pittsburgh rare
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TBF, French journalists have a long history of hinting that foreign cyclists are cheating in the Tour, and when taken further, many times it's proven inconclusive or false. So not surprised nobody believed them.

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was David Walsh of the Sunday Times.

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    Frank Hassler
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greg Le Mond Was the biggest victim here in my opinion. Since Armstrong was sponsored by Trek, and the LeMond bike brand that Greg LeMond had built from the ground-up had recently been bought by Trek, Trek basically shut him out of his own business.

    walkabout
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have thousands of miles on a LeMond Poprad that was rebranded as a Gary Fisher Presidio.

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    François Bouzigues
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You wouldn´t be wrong assuming that the worst performers at Le Tour de France are doping as well. In the end, if all of them are doping, it is still the best that wins. I mean, it is very sad. But the number of pro cyclists dying in their 50-60s of heart failures, after a carreer in a sport that makes have a very strong heart is surprising.

    Mary Lou
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think it's that simple. I suppose it's a science of it's own and a battle of doctors. That way a guy like Armstrong got still better odds with all his sponsors, doctors and access to secret labatories as some bloke from Algeria whose local doctor gives him some stuff under the counter....

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    Gabby Ghoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For quite some time, until he admitted it, I thought Lance was clean simply because I couldn't conceive of a cancer survivor using PEDs in general and HGH in particular.

    MagicJacket
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only real problem with Armstrong is his constant denials. And I understand why he did so, as it turns out almost all cyclists in Tour de France were doping. 87% of the top finishers when he won his 7 races were doping, just like he was. So really, he was the best. He was just a d**k about it.

    SirWriteALot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cheating is wrong but what irks me is that people pretend like he'd be nothing without drugs. Man he'd ride faster backwards than 99% of us even without the pills.

    Gary Geracci
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only thing I have against Lance was how he treated the wife who stood beside him through the cancer, treatments and such!

    Sven Horlemann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never believed anything Armstrong said. What a fake, dishonorable, pitiful human being he is. And I am saying this as a (former) fan of the sport. Ah, and I am German, not French. So please call me neutral.

    Mimi M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I stopped following the Tour when Floyd Landis was outed as a cheater. That was it for me.

    Montanavanna
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think doping is a lot more prevalent in the sporting world then we like to think. I am under the impression many athletes, during non testing training times dope up, then clean up once it is time to be tested. Correct me if I am wrong.

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    #31

    Hippies in the 70’s and black people at the time aswell were HUGE victims of the war on drugs and most of the drugs were proven to be vilified just so Nixon could arrest X people for any plant he wanted. And let’s not forget heroin and other destructive and addictive drugs were funneled into minority areas via the GOV. An actual quote from “John Ehrlichman” where he essentially “confessed” “You want to know what this [war on drugs] was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.” ~ John Ehrlichman, Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under President Richard Nixon

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    Barbra E. Nyberg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And republicans are still lying, propaganda spewing fascists.

    Spam Jam
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This comment section is the best depiction of how harmful it is for someone to just pick a party rather than make informed decisions when it comes to the power of their vote. One of the most despicable things the US government ever did has been written in good detail and people who identify as Republican rather than assess the policies when the time comes are trying to make it a "he did this, they did that". Somethings, like exactly what's been detailed here are just wrong. Not "well at least it's Republican" or "thank god it's Democrat". It's unbelievably important for the well being of all people that they learn to think critically rather than pick one hill, that changes and then die on it for the rest of their lives.

    keyboardtek
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We believed the Viet Nam war was extended much longer than necessary just so the American leaders could send the disruptive counter culture hippies off to be killed. It was Nixon's war on youth.

    Kim
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one made you use them though....

    j miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nixon was one of many famous leaders who should have been killed at birth.

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny that one guy is named Ehrlichman. That‘s a German name and means „honest man“

    Surenu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ironically enough, Ehrlich means honest in German and Ehrlichman was anything but.

    Kevin carton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in the old days, republicans were slimy, but smart.

    Mental Liberals
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    The demonrats did a number of people with the War on Drugs, The war on Poverty, The Welfare State and SO many others to control the people!! And of course, to import and sell firearms & drugs!!

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    #32

    Anita Hill. I called my father as I was upset no one believed her. I knew what I was experiencing in the work place. She is my hero. Because of her the corporate company I worked for started promoting women into management roles. In my career as I am now retired, I was the first woman manager in four different locations, all different corporations. I didn't have a degree but had talent in my field. I attended a state conference where other managers in my field attended. I was the only women and didn't realize it til the next year's conference when another women entered the room. I was in that room because of my talent and until someone opened that door I couldn't go in. Anita unlocked that door.

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    Awesome At Being Autistic
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anita Hill was completely believable. Clarence Thomas should never have been confirmed.

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She had so much courage, fortitude, and dignity. What an amazing women. Absolute GOAT.

    Kevin carton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every single one of the lawyers I know believed her at the time. I know a lot of lawyers.

    Linda Riebel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The book about Hill, "Strange Justice," came out soon after all the uproar -- check it out. And yes, Repugnicans have been corrupt for generations.

    Der Kommissar
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you George H.W. Bush for appointing Thomas. NOT !

    Cassie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anita Hill. A brief Google search would have revealed to you that she testified that Clarence Thomas, who was, at the time, a nominee for Supreme Court Justice based on his "good moral character" rather than experience (he had only been a judge for about a year by that point), had sexually assaulted her. She passed a polygraph, he refused to take one, the testimony of other women was refused, and her testimony was vilified as a smear campaign. Her testimony did not keep Thomas from winning the nomination, but it did spur a movement for better protections and support for women in the workplace.

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    Lola July
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    The Left always attact the Right with lies that are not substantial.

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    #33

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Remember when people thought Marie Curie's work was 'too dangerous'? Now we can't imagine medicine and technology without her discoveries.

    eminent_mowing , Henri Manuel Report

    Pamela24
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Marie Curie SKLODOWSKA, please! It makes me so sad for her and Polish people that her name got erased over time. She was so proud to be Polish, she deserves to be recognized as such.

    Strawberry Pizza
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Marie Curie was a name that made it easier for people to refer to her, because her full name was actually Maria Salomea Skłodowska-Curie and unless you are familiar with polish there is no way most people are going to be able to pronounce that. I'm not trying to be rude at all - of course it's a good thing that she was proud of her heritage, I respect that, but realistically most people know her as Marie Curie and that's ok.

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    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it was certainly dangerous to her.

    WindySwede
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and aren't her material locked away because of all the radioactivity https://youtube.com/shorts/bnDOHsdEJHA?si=GUw_UEg856c052jG

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    John Dilligaf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    her work was "to dangerous" - if anything they didn't know how dangerous it was. She died from the effects of radiation exposure and her notebooks and other papers are so highly contaminated that they have to be kept in lead boxes and scholars who want to examine them have to wear protective clothing

    PoAngielsku
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her work WAS dangerous. It literally killed her.

    Andrew Read
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmmm…didn’t she die of radiation poison8ng!

    Lace Neil
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://youtu.be/dw4A97V8mhM?si=ZTC4S6rdK4qkJuFF

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    #34

    Martha Mitchell, after whom the Martha Mitchell Effect is named. Watergate whistleblower. She was the wife of the US AG at the time, John Mitchell. Despite being known privately to suffer from a fair bit of social anxiety, she was nevertheless outspoken and was seen as a little eccentric. This ended up being used against her by, among other people, her own husband (who at one point had her *kidnapped* in the middle of a phone call to a reporter over this), to thoroughly publicly discredit, mock, and belittle her when she blew the whistle on Watergate - though she initially believed her husband was an innocent fall guy. Nixon actually *blamed her* for Watergate, saying she was a distraction to AG Mitchell and that without her, Watergate never even would have happened! Which is just wild. Aside from her son, her family abandoned her until full details of Watergate became more widely publicly known and one of the people involved in the kidnapping admitted it had happened. The Martha Michell Effect is when a patient's true, but extreme claims are either incorrectly or maliciously dismissed as delusions by a medical (especially psychiatric) professional..

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This effect didn’t just start with Martha Mitchell. It’s even going on for millennia—-if the person making the claims is a woman. Claiming a woman is crazy and putting her away in an institution—-especially if she’s 100% right—-has always been a method for male criminal m***********s of all classes to discredit her claims, cover up their nefarious activities, and get away with their dirty dealings.

    C.S. E.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man, the Drunk History bit about this is amazing! Highly recommend watching it to get started

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    #35

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Dr. John Leal, the first man to chlorinate drinking water to kill germs. Only, chlorine is a deadly poison, so he did so secretly for a couple months at first. The judge was incredulous that a man would poison the water supply from which his own son drank, but Leal said that it was the safest water in the world, and he was right. Suitably diluted, the chlorine does no notable damage to humans worlds of hurt to bacteria.

    Rich_Piece6536 , Drinkingwaterdoc Report

    Nicole Weymann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Surely better than germ infested sewage, but I prefer the approach of not poisoning drinking water it in the first place (aka ministering to the disease) rather than treating it with yet another additive (aka trating the symptoms).

    geezeronthehill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There certainly are less poisonous methods today, e.g. ozonation and filtration, but at the time, and even today, chlorine is the most cost-effective method. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

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    Lotekguy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same raw deal for whoever first promoted fluoride in the water. Nut jobs of the day labeled it part of a commie mind control plot. Good thing they didn't have an Internet to spread that nonsense.

    Donald Crocker, Jr.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The father of cancer causing organochlorines. https://people.musc.edu/~huntke/BMTRY738/2009%20HW/Ylitalo_etal_2005.pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12363327/ https://publications.iarc.fr/_publications/media/download/5164/9e275135d834e5161e2e549962806c1103bf69b0.pdf

    #36

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Mitt Romney during his presidential run said Putin was the biggest threat.

    chewie8291 , United States Congress Report

    Sand Ers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't make him any less a right-wing fascist himself.

    Der Kommissar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mitt said 47% of Americans are getting free stuff. He lumped Social Security in there with other social programs. People pay into SS. They then get some of it back when they retire, when it is worth less due to inflation. It is not "free".

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    During his campaign race, he visited London to meet our Party Leaders, and PM David Cameron. His visit was the week before the Opening Ceremony of London 2012. He said he wasn’t sure London would cope, what with holding the Games in the middle of the city, and that LOCOG wouldn’t be able to cope. He got a massive backlash for that, but did you know that Mitt Romney was President of the Organising Committee for the Salt Lake Winter Games of 2002? The same Games which bribed over 75% of IOC members with college places for their children, expensive handbags for their wives and cash payments. And also was trying to compare a Winter Games with a Summer Games. Idiot.

    Vidas Zlioba
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neat trick there, Chewie . . . Accuse the guy who was brought-in to cleanup the scandal WITH the scandal.

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    Jackie Lulu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember chuckling at that remark, like many others. Boy were we wrong. Still wouldn't have voted for him....

    Julia H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me too...not now though. He's turned into a Republican mouthpiece with few thoughts of his own

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    Montanavanna
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ya, nobody saw that coming.

    Timbob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it actually turned out to be another Republican, trump!

    Connie Hirsch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was right about 'Obamacare' before he was against it -- championed a health insurance system in Massachusetts when he was governor which was the (right wing inspired!) model for it.

    Vidas Zlioba
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    But apparently he's a "fascist."

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    j miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A threat to whom? Oh, you mean because now his country is involved in a conflict they were forced into he is a threat! Maybe next time don't p**s him off?

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    #37

    Dr. Joseph Goldberger. He was the doctor that discovered the cause of the Pellagra epidemic that was sweeping the southern USA. He linked it to a bad diet, specifically a corn heavy diet. Cornmeal and grits were a southern staple, and and incredibly cheap way to feed orphans, prisoners, and the poor. Pellagra is caused by a lack of vitamin B3, aka niacin. Normally corn is high in niacin, but that niacin is locked up and unavailable to the human digestive system unless the corn is treated, aka "softened", typically with lye. In the early 1900's, manufactures switched to a different process that eliminated this treatment with lye. Corn was no longer softened. Then people, especially the poor, prisoners and orphans started dying of pellagra. Some orphanages and prisons had a death rate of over 40%. Tens of thousands were dying annually. Through a series of experiments, Goldberger proved that it was a corn-heavy diet that caused pellagra. He cured it in 2 institutions just by adding vegetables to their diet. He also caused it in a 14 prisoner "volunteers". But, and this is the important part: He was Jewish, and he was trying to tell Southerners they they were doing something wrong. So he was ridiculed and ignored. And pellagra continued to kill tens of thousands in the USA, and sicken tens of thousands more, for decades. When Goldberger died in 1929 pellagra continued to kill tens of thousands annually, 15 years after he had found the cure. It would continue to kill thousands for another couple of decades until someone more acceptable, Conrad Elvehjem, confirmed Goldberger's work in the late 1930's. All because southerners didn't want a Jew telling then that they were doing something wrong. He was insulting their southern heritage, by god! PS: "Insulting their southern heritage" is not my words. It's the words of the southern politicians who pulled his funding and campaigned for his removal from the US Public Health Service.

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    AndThenICommented
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yet Mexicans knew this all along - it’s a key step to making masa

    geezeronthehill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Listen to Mesoamericans and Jewish doctors or poor folks suffer the consequences.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know, if the “southern heritage” crowd wants to reject science and massively die of easily treated and/or curable diseases and conditions, then I say let them. That’s their choice (plus it’ll help clear out the shallow end of the gene pool they occupy). BUT DO NOT allow them to make those treatments and cures unavailable to the rest of us who welcome them and do not see them as an insult to our various heritages, AND do not allow the “southern heritage” crowd to murder their own innocent children with their beliefs, or end up infecting and potentially murdering other innocent people with their untreated germs. Every adult who wants to suffer and die by rejecting easy cures and treatments should be able to do so, but must be fully aware of the risks, and be forced to quarantine if they’re infectious. They can choose their own actions, but also be aware of the consequences for becoming a menace to public health.

    Valerie Woods
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. You're extremely rude referring to Southern people as the shallow end of the gene pool. What are you, exactly? Southern people weren't the only ones misbehaving during Covid, lady. Get over yourself.

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    Caroline Nagel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pellagra is charachterized by the four D's: dermatitis, dementia, diarrhea and death.

    Valaun
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US, the Southerners have a history of new ideas. It is not at all surprising to find out they resisted this one.

    j miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too dumb to live, too stupid to listen to someone smarter than them.

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    agree with most of OP, but grits are made from hominy, which is lye-treated corn?...

    geezeronthehill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hominy grits are made with hominy. Grits are untreated corn and lack the lye treatment.

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    #38

    One of the lesser known ones is Hellen Keller. Her story of overcoming her disabilities as a young woman was often taught to children, but her adult life was largely excluded because of her "radical" ideas at the time which involved pushing for black rights, anti-lynching laws, early support of birth control, supporting liberal socialism, and she even co-founded the American Civil Liberties Union.

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    Allen S.
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And also...a eugenicist. So, not all of her ideas were great.

    Inga Paškevičiūtė
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How bizarre, getting downvoted for telling facts about a person. It's even in her wikipedia page "Keller supported eugenics which had become popular with new understandings (as well as misapprehensions) of principles of biological inheritance. In 1915, she wrote in favor of refusing life-saving medical procedures to infants with severe mental impairments or physical deformities, saying that their lives were not worthwhile and they would likely become criminals."

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    Mental Liberals
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    Some good, many negative!!

    Jared Robinson
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    "That's so awesome all that and she can still communicate ain't that something, She said what now, we''ll that deaf dumb blind b***h goin' get her fingers chopped off."

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    #39

    Nan Briton had an affair with US president Warren G. Harding in the early 1920s. Harding died of a heart attack in 1923, and Briton tried to sue for child support. She was ridiculed in court. In 2015, Ancestry.com did a DNA analysis on Harding's and Briton's descendants. Nan was telling the truth.

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    Shiva Ho
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure let's just hand our privacy to the Feds! They now have 21 million peoples DNA!

    SkekVi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the feds aren't the people I'm worried about. The mormons run most of these DNA services and we all know how fond they are of posthumous conversion....

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    Jared Robinson
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    ok sure I trust the 20$ dna test absolutely.

    Sven Grammersdorf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's more like $120, and do you think they just make s**t up?

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    #40

    Edward Snowden was infamously branded a traitor by the US Government for leaking things like Prism, after the american people had long suspected the government had been spying on them for years since the days of Patriot Act. He was just simply the confirmation of all of our suspicions.

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    maswartz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like you said, he didn't do anything but remind us what we already knew since the Patriot Act.

    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you didn't know the government was spying on us before snowden. I'm just disappointed in you. And while I thank Snowden and appreciate what he did. He is still a traitor. He still abused his clearance, and he leaked documents that were illegal for him to do so. You don't get to pick and choose which things you agree with your government about and get no consequences. The people of jan 6 thought they were doing the right thing, but you don't get to pick and choose which laws you follow. So thanks snowden, but if you ever come back you go to jail.

    Sven Grammersdorf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT) Act of 2001 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act )

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    Gary Geracci
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Spy on me all you want Washington. Just don't let any of our stuff wind up in Moscow!!

    Donna Peluda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To me he is a slave of Putin. He's in Russia now. why doesn't he undercover all the s888 that goes down there. Simple, because he would be suicided.

    madbakes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He doesn't work for the Russian government. He did work for the US government. Big difference in access there

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    Mental Liberals
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    And again, nothing was done since We The People are sheep!!

    #41

    Patrice Lumumba. The United Nations labeled him as an unreasonable, unprincipled madman. In reality he just wanted his country’s independence from Belgium because they had been torturing and oppressing the natives there since the days of king Leopold.

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    ADJ
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back then, he was actually recognized in Poland, there were even streets named in his honor in several large cities.

    Gary Geracci
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But, Does that Condone the provable acts of Cannibalism brought against him?

    j miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF would people listen to the UN for?

    Donna Peluda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lumumba, Chocolate milk with brandy. Serve chilled.

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    #42

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them William H. Seward, arranged the purchase of the Alaska territory from Russia for $7 Million dollars. The media and politician's of the era termed it "Seward's Folly" “Seward’s icebox” and President Andrew Johnson’s “polar bear garden.”

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    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If not for him, this country would be without Sarah Palin.

    Der Kommissar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sarah "lipstick on a pig" Palin is from Idaho.

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    Jean Thompson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you imagine the tension if it still was Russian territory ...

    Montanavanna
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank Gods that happened so the Department of Defense could poison such a pristine environment and decimate entire ecosystems people relied on for survival. Not sayin Russia would not have done the same but the US DOD history in Alaska is appalling.

    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great Britain was offered Alaska first, as it would complete Canada, but turned the offer down. I’ve never found out why.

    Yoyolanda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who can say that what happened was better?

    Donald
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We'll I like having one of the most beautiful places on earth as part of my country and its only one flight away. No passport, no new citizenship and I can go live in one of the last few truly wild places on earth.

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    Katie Fink
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a resident of British Columbia. I'm glad Alaska isn't a launching pad for Putin! Yikes!

    Violet Jensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was oil in Alaska that net us a lot of money IIRC

    Brian Droste
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If Alaska was purchased today according to google it would cost the USA almost 149 million dollars.

    Timbob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yea Mike, maybe everybody WAS right about him back then !

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    #43

    Van Halen and the brown M&Ms. A lot of people thought they were just being a******s when they had a clause in their contract that required a bowl of M&Ms to be filled but with all the brown ones removed. This was actually their way to check if the people setting up the venue for lighting, pyro, electrical, etc, actually did all the work. If they had the bowl without brown ones, it meant the venue was trustworthy and safety precautions were followed. If there were any brown ones, it meant they cut corners somewhere and that meant lives at risk.

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    ADJ
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    B******t. Person responsible for food and catering is not the same person who sets lighting and electrical installation. I would be inspecting electric installation nad would be sure everything is OK, with absolutely no regard for M&Ms, sandwiches and other food stuff.

    PunnyPanda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True, but often all the details are communicated through one or only a few individuals/channels. While obviously the m&m thing would never indicate how safely riggings were set up, it would demonstrate that their point of contact was genuinely invested and paying attention and worth working with again.

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    Gabby Ghoul
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recall an interview where David Lee Roth said the point of the M&Ms clause was simply to see if people actually read the contract or not.

    mike stone
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Professsional stagehand who's eaten some of the m&ms here: riders like this are common. The rule of thumb is something with a combined material and labor cost about the same as one seat toward the front. If you haven't, read the business history of Woodstock for context. A concert is a business deal potentially worth millions of dollars that lasts less than 24 hours. Venues were notorious for screwing bands not-quite-enough to cancel the show. Riders like the Van Halen m&ms are an early indicator that the venue's management read the contract and is willing to spend chump change to honor it. If the road manager walks in and sees three stagehands (two electricians and a sound guy for the show I did) getting paid $25/hr to sort m&ms, they know can relax a little. If they don't, it's time to start going through the contract *before* showtime. As for safety, some venues will short-staff and use unskilled minimum-wagers for dangerous jobs if you let them.

    mike stone
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Additional info: yes, the guys who sorted the m&ms were skilled professionals getting paid far more than the job required. It took them less than an hour, and complaining about $75 when the first five rows of seats cost maybe $250k is a big red flag. Also, the brown m&ms were set out for the crew, so the Van Halen rider was basically a snack for the people working backstage.

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    cugel.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cool story, but the unless tradespeople were the ones tasked with catering, a flawed hypothesis

    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One could say, if the venue cuts corners with hiring caterers, they'll likely to cut corners elsewhere too, but still I agree with you that it's bogus. The colour of M&Ms just doesn't have enough significance to be a reliable indicator for accuracy. It's always very likely that someone thinks it's a joke when told and just puts up the bowl.

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    Jerusalem Cat Syndrome
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP is nearly correct: it wasn't to check the workers, it was to check if the promoter had actually read and paid attention to the contract. https://www.insider.com/van-halen-brown-m-ms-contract-2016-9

    Floof_the_Pom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the people saying this is bull are the ones who ignore the part about the m&ms being used as an indicator of the venue people actually reading the contract (not just skimming it) and that the colour of the candy is not the main factor, they could have chosen any colour but because brown is easy to distinguish from the other vibrant colours. no one is saying that the tech people are the ones sorting the candy, they are assuming it on their own... as the saying goes: When you assume, you make an @$$ out of u and me

    Floof_the_Pom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    source: i'm a theatre kid. backstage peeps, lighting peeps, and sound peeps HAVE to be in contact with each other at all times for things to go smoothly (so all the actors have to worry about is remembering their lines and not anything behind the scenes)

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    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it was just to check that the venue's attys. had read the contract.

    Jackie Lulu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks to them, all brown M&Ms everywhere have been removed.

    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No that's not how that works. dipshit jerry who we can't fire gets to pick all the brown m&ms out, meanwhile actual people are doing the important stuff. I promise you pyro guy isn't stopping to pick out m&ms that is literally not what he is getting paid for.

    Persephone
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like they did too many... ummm.. "m&m's"

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    #44

    Johnny Lyden when he said on the radio that Jimmy Saville was dodgy.

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    Ron Baza
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lydon doesn’t really work for me. He alluded to some rumours, offered no details, and that was that. Sone imprecise innuendo in an solitary interview.

    Spocks's Mom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was disappointed to find out how much Lydon loves T-rump.

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    Eastendbird
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lynn Barber, the British journalist, actually asked Jimmy Saville about the rumours in an interview with him. Of course he denied them, but Barber got a lot of public criticism for even asking him. Edited to add the interview was published in the Sunday Times (I think!)

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    #45

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them The "leave Britney alone" guy,  Chris Crocker.

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    Yeah, I remember laughing at him as a clown but later felt guilty after her story came to light.

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    Dave M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was still a clown.

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I felt nothing but pity. Chris Crocker, now Cara Cunningham, was a queer teen in rural Tennessee. Talk about a living hell. They were driven from their own home and forced to live in a safe house for queer teens at one point to avoid persecution for being nongender conforming. They, now she fully transitioned in 2021. She survived being queer in the deepest red part of the bible belt.

    Mary Lou
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always felt it was plain to see, that it was a deeply disturbed vulnerable person speaking - not a selve important clown trying to be dramatic.

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    Jenny Mason
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cara Cunningham, why are we deadnaming her?

    Rebecca S.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because when this happened she was still Chris and that is who is known in the video. I had no idea that she is now Cara and I am sure a lot of people did not either. I hope Cara is happy, healthy and living life to the fullest.

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    Aleesha Krieg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    just stepping in to correct/update this. Her name is Cara now and she no longer identifies as male.

    CaptainFluffy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is that a photo of Britney? If so I really don’t recognise her.

    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't remember laughing at what the message was, everyone I knew laughed at how over the top he was.

    j miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looking like this? That is a confused individual!

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    Sorry you all, she is seriously mentally ill.

    Julie S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who Britney Spears or Cara Cunningham?

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    #46

    Charles B McVay, the captain of the USS Indianapolis at the time it was sunk. Scapegoated and blamed for the tragedy because the Navy totally s**t the bed left and right and needed a fall guy. He was exonerated decades after taking his own life…

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    #47

    45 People Who Were Right All Along But No One Believed Them Martin Luther King was hated in his own time and died with a negative favorability rating.

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    sofacushionfort
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At the time of his murder he was at a low point of his career. The Montgomery bus boycott and the March on Washington had been great successes. But he’d gone North to confront housing discrimination in Chicago only to gain minimal results against the very strong apparatus of Mayor Daley’s machine. Then he’d come out against the Vietnam War, for the sake of the Vietnamese as well as US draftees of all races, for which the other civil rights leaders distanced themselves from him. Advocating for Memphis garbage collectors should have been a fight he could have delegated, had things been going better. At any rate, the KKK had put a $100K bounty on him that they in no way could have paid, and a loser invested in a rifle, a scope and a room in a Memphis flophouse hoping to collect the money.

    Spocks's Mom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then the shooter later escaped from Brushy Mountain State prison just to get caught again.

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    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The political right in other countries are currently trying to slander MLK and it's like wtf.

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    #48

    Svante Arrhenius.
    During his PhD research in the 1880's he theorized that crystalline salts dissolved in water to form pairs of charged ions. For example, sodium chloride (common table salt) dissolved in water to form positively charged sodium ions, and negatively charged chloride ions. His PhD dissertation didn't impress his professors, and he received low marks. Their reaction was something like "You think that salt dissolves in water to form ions of SODIUM?! A metal that reacts violently with water?! And chlorine GAS? Are you serious? GTFO!" He later received the 1903 Nobel Prize in chemistry for this groundbreaking work.

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    Themoonprincess
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. something we take granted for today.

    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So his PhD in chemistry...got no reaction?

    #49

    Wrote an Econ paper in 2007 about the housing market crashing and was told the housing market never crashes.

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    Jcusack
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess your Econ professor never heard of the Great Depression?

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    #50

    Lars Ulrich. Metallica's drummer. Lars was right. Digital music made it challenging for bands, small or big, to make a living. Top that off with predatory practices like merch cuts from venues.

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    James016
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Merch cuts have really hit the music news recently. Some bands wont sell their merch in the venue they are playing in.

    J
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once ordered a shirt from the band’s own website while at their show because the merch line was too long and I’d miss the performance. I might do this more now.

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    Donna Peluda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TBH the music industry was out of control abusing the fans and literally screwing them because record or CD production was a oligarchy that squeezed small independent companies out of the business. Air time on the radios was all controlled by the big companies making it impossible for independent bands yo make it. Today good bands make there money playing gigs. Check out this : https://open.spotify.com/album/4jmQ3CvZiXkeHaLLUHctr2?si=OjslxnWuRtaC1mj7IninBg

    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    no no no no no, the problem is that now with digital music anyone can be an artist so the market is saturated with millions of possibilities instead of the celebrities who got luck enough to land record deals.

    Julia H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Went to the Foreigner Fairwell tour recently. They pretty much said the same. AI and deep fakes were also ruining the concert experience

    Justin Everett (Tehashi)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could you explain the ai/deepfake bit? how do they affect in person concerts?

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    #51

    Georg Cantor, a 19th-century German mathematician. He was the mathematician who proved that the cardinality of the real numbers was uncountably infinite (rather than countably infinite like the natural numbers and the sets in bijection with the naturals), now a very commonly known fact even among undergraduates in mathematics. Essentially, the real numbers are a "greater" infinite than the natural numbers ({1,2,3,4,...}). Many mathematicians of the day rejected his proof and infinite set theories, notably of which included Henry Poincaré (who created the Poincaré conjecture, the only solved problem among the 7 Millenium Prize problems) and Leopold Kronecker (who the Kronecker-Delta is named after). Funnily enough, Cantor's legacy lives on to this day because his Set Theory ended up being the foundation for the vast majority of modern mathematics as we know it.

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    Full Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Side note - If you're going to shoot a running deer, you have to lead the deer with your aim. Easy enough. Think about this: we launch a ship to Mars from a rotating spheroid and expect it to land on another rotating spheroid several months in the future with both spheroids rotating around the Sun at different rates. How do you optimize the launch date using math? Kronecker to the rescue.

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    #52

    the guy who came up with the theory of Pangaea and continental drift

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    ADJ
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thhe guy has a name: Alfred Wegener

    #53

    The Duke lacrosse team. They were proven innocent, yet only one reporter apologized for writing a story about their 'guilt'. The accused received a large amount of money for their troubles, but the coach had trouble finding work. ESPN did a 30 for 30 on the Duke lacrosse team.

    The three players who were investigated for the crime ended up filing suit against Duke university, Duke settled for a undisclosed sum (rumored to be $60 million). Then the three players sued the City of Durham and the Police department. That lawsuit was settled after seven years for approximately $50,000. One of the players earned a law degree and is currently a lawyer who works with the Innocence Project. One of the players graduated from Duke and went on to earn an MBA. The third player graduated from Loyola. Nifong was removed from office, disbarred, and ended up serving one day in jail. The dancer who accused the players, Crystal Magnum is serving a prison sentence for second degree murder.

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    Strings
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I recall, there was ATM video footage of one of the accused several hours away during the time of the alleged rape

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    #54

    Ted Kaczynski. He'd also be vilified today due to his brutal methods. But it's undeniable at this point that he predicted accurately the dystopia we now live in.

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    MoMcB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, you're wrong. Terrorism is never a correct choice.

    John O'Donnell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, the US better go back to being British then.

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    Jared Robinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, this is not okay. You need to go get some help. Talk to someone about these feelings you are having.

    JB
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah no. It's a social contract to obey red lights at midnight, not "the machines are taking over."

    Full Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I regret that I have only one downvote to give you.

    S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🤔ᴴᴹᴹ strange way to look at that...... Watch out for this 1 🤨

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