Woman Shares Product Prices In Her Area As A Response To Guilt-Tripping By Vegans
While most of us don’t think twice about the food we’re gonna cook and eat today, people in remote parts of the world are not that lucky. In the Arctic part of Canada, fresh produce can’t be grown due to endless winters and food has to be shipped long distances by plane or ship. This inflates food prices and a full grocery bag can cost a fortune.
One Inuit woman who goes by the Twitter handle @KataraPiujuq has recently created a thread to share fruit and vegetable prices in the Arctic. After being called “a murderer for trying to feed themselves,” Katara made a thread to inform people of the harsh reality of food prices where she lives.
“A lot of Inuit live in poverty-stricken homes and can’t afford to live an expensive vegan lifestyle. We need to hunt to eat,” she tweeted. The price tags of products from the supermarket aisles are self-explanatory, and they leave no doubt that for native Arctic people, a nutritious fruit and veggie diet can be simply unattainable.
The Inuit woman created a viral Twitter thread where she shared insane produce prices in Arctic supermarkets
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And stepped ahead of those who were about to say to move south
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The price tags on fruits and veggies in the Arctic are self-explanatory
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Bored Panda reached out to the Inuit woman who goes by the Twitter handle @KataraPiujuq behind the viral thread, who agreed to share what life is like in the Arctic. “A week’s worth of groceries typically costs around $600. If I make one trip to the shop and buy 1-2 bags of groceries, it would typically cost $50-100.”
An average weekly grocery bag consists of milk, bread, sugar, coffee, macaroni, rice, fries, soup, juice, meat boxes, frozen vegetables, butter, pasta, and occasionally fruit. The woman also said that her household buys a lot of processed food because “they’re cheaper in bulk and we have eight people living in one house.”
The Inuit woman encouraged everyone who thinks Inuit choose to “murder” animals for fur, meat, and culture to get some perspective of the world outside them. “Inuit have lived in the arctic for thousands of years. The animals have stayed consistent and they’ve never gone extinct. We are no different than polar bears who hunt seals, seals who hunt fish, fish who eat shrimp.”
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The Inuit also said that even though veganism is great and she feels heartbroken about animals who live in factory farms and never lived lives as animals, when it comes to Inuit people, the world is a lot different there. “
There was a picture that was circulating of an owl’s nest that was made of lemmings. Inuit live like that. Nature takes care of us, it protects us, always has for millions of years,” the woman, who wakes up every day to help her 5 younger siblings and work at a care center, concluded.
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To find out what an expert in vegan activism had to say about this unusual case, Bored Panda reached out to Alex J. O’Connor, an impassioned animal rights advocate and the founder of the Cosmic Skeptic YouTube channel, podcast, and blog, all dedicated to philosophical ideas and debates in an accessible format. Alex has produced videos with notable figures such as Peter Singer, Richard Dawkins, and William Lane Craig.
In relation to the Inuit woman’s situation of being accused of murdering animals, Alex said that the case highlighted the importance of vegans considering the individual circumstances of the people they are talking to. “It is very easy, especially online, for vegans to make blanket statements that do not in fact apply universally, and therefore place an unreasonably high standard upon people incapable of practically reaching it.”
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Alex explained that “veganism is, by definition, a minimization of one’s contribution to the suffering of animals to the highest extent practicable.” That means that for someone like him living in Oxford, United Kingdom, it’s very easy to adopt a vegan diet, and “the highest extent to which I can eliminate animal cruelty from my diet is its complete removal.”
But he warned that this may not be true in other areas of the world, or even the country. Alex further explained that “this means that someone can agree with the vegan philosophy (properly stated) and yet continue to consume animal products, should their situation genuinely require it.”
“In reality,” the animal rights activist added, “somebody can simultaneously be eating animal products required for their health and survival whilst also eating the minimal amount possible and from the least unethical sources they can practically access.” He again stressed that “no vegan should hope to eliminate all animal suffering, as this is impossible,” but rather, to aim at minimizing animal suffering.
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Moreover, Alex added that the author of the Twitter thread specifically mentioned hunting, which is “a completely different animal to factory farming.”
He went into detail: “The vast majority of animal products in my country are procured via factory farming, which is an undeniably cruel and brutal method of production in which incomprehensible numbers of animals face unimaginable tortures.”
However, “hunting, whilst still in my view unethical if done without good reason (such as in trophy hunting, or hunting for food when vegan alternatives are easily accessible),” in comparison, “is a far less cruel fate for an animal.”
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Alex concluded that “it’s ethically irresponsible for vegans to administer the same moral analysis upon someone like myself buying factory-farmed animal products, and an Inuit hunting for food without any practical alternative.”
Even though vegans would prefer a world in which every person has reliable access to a plant-based diet, Alex warns not to get confused by this. “This is a goal, not a description of the current state of the world.”
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The Inuit woman shed light on the difficult situation people in the Arctic are living in and asked others to do research before judging
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And this is what others commented in the thread
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I'm a vegetarian, but lets be honest. A skilled hunter killing an animal and using as much of that animal as possible is how an animal should be used.
The vegans and vegetarians around me are pretty respectful and open-minded. The folks who bug me more are the urban meat-eaters who feel bad for animals that are hunted. Factory-farming is better??
Load More Replies...Upvoted and stood and clapped. I was reading thru before I posted the exact same. How bout you mind your diet and I will mind mine!
Load More Replies...This is a problem in so many places healthy food, whether vegan or not, is out of the price range of a lot of people. All those celebrity and nutritionist diets are just too expensive for all but the highest income earners.
There are food deserts throughout the US. Community farm plots are springing up & many are buying direct from local/regional farms & farmer markets. These efforts & relationship are crucial to the health of consumers & non-corporate farms.
Load More Replies...What's the betting that the same people who shame indigenous people for their lifestyle are also those who shout loudest about "cultural appropriation"?
To commenter Saphirelightning who thinks the poster is ingenuous because a healthy diet includes five fruits and vegetables a day, therefore these photos are not inclusive of all options. Yes, they are. It is ingenuous to think that people in "food deserts" like the Antarctic (and urban and rural areas of even first world countries) have the privilege of eating 5 fruits and vegetables a day. Please look in your own backyard and see what poor people have access to and what they can afford to buy on their income.
I think they do have a point in just that the prices shown showed fresh vegetables, but you can buy dried legumes in a bad. It's about $1 for a bad here in MN. I'd be very curious what it costs there. Considering the cost of the peanuts they did show, seems those would also be exhorbitantly-priced. I would add that one thing about eating lots of vegetables is the vitamins and nutrients. The native people of the arctic used to eat most of the animals they hunt, including organs. If they still do that, they are getting vitamins from the meat - vitamins that most people in the US would never get from eating meat.
Load More Replies...Most vegans I've encountered personally have come across preachy and self-righteous. Not saying all are that way, just my experience.
I think the self-righteousness etc started with PETA. This kind of militant veganism ignoring of the facts to promote the cause at all costs has kinda spawned from them. And the facts don't matter; vegans (some not all) will outright lie to push the cause even if their lies do more harm than good. Even though PETA has fallen out of favor (puppy killing practices, killing animals to free them etc) now, their methods kinda prevail.
Load More Replies...$105 for 24 500ml bottles of water?!? It's $4 in Montreal for the same thing! I knew it would cost more, but not THAT much more. I get it - the weight of the item plays a role in the price due to the cost of shipping. But seriously, the government needs to honour its promises about making sure everyone has clean, drinkable water. Every time I hear someone say, "Oh but you Canadians are so nice." I'm like, "Oh yeah? Lemme tell you a few things..."
I'm not sure that should really be the government's problem. Also, most arctic areas have running water. Bottled water is and always will be overpriced.
Load More Replies...How do you survive when you can't afford any fresh fruit or veg? I am sure there are some native berries for vit C that can be seasonally picked and preserved, but charging that much for produce is insane. I feel like the government should be subsidizing food in the arctic region so people can actually afford to eat it.
Animal organ meat, especially livers, has vitamin C in it. If you have a meat-based diet you have to eat the whole animal to survive, not just the lean muscle we mostly use in the western world.
Load More Replies...I have no problem with Vegans but in most Indigenous peoples only take what they need! So it's not like 1000 of animals are hunted a day by one tribe maybe over many tribes yes but I honk you get my point
My sister in Canada's Northwest Territories explained that it's illegal to waste wild meat. Outside the pandemic times, when a trophy hunter (who pays big bucks) kills an animal, it's given to the elders, who then distribute the meat.
Load More Replies...I don't think hunting is cruel- killpens and the such? That's cruelty. I could never bring myself to hunt, but that's because I don't need to. If hunting is done properly, the animals know no suffering.
I think that people are trash and love to pick on the people with less power then themselves, no matter if it's people picking on the vegans or the inuit. get over yourselves.
even some places in the 'south' have prices of produce that prevents people from eating them regularly. it's why so many, including myself, have learned to gardent and can. in my youth, i remember prices being so prohibited that my mom would give us half and apple because she couldn't afford to give us a whole one.
you know when the only way to get stuff up there are plane, no wonder everything is costly
Finally, someone points it out ----- if you live remote and impoverished, you eat what's there, and affordable. Vegans need to get out of their privileged shells and try living where, and at the same wages, as the people they criticize. If all you can afford to eat for meat is squirrel, then that's what you eat. If you can't afford fresh veg, you eat canned. If you live where farming is prohibitive due to climate? You find other ways to live. It's not some weird vampiric-horror-movie bloodthirst, for pity's sake. It's SURVIVAL.
Hard-line vegan of 12 years here and I think the way they hunt and use of all the animal, to me that's the ONLY acceptable and respectful form of hunting, if I had to do it this way I would absolutely eat meat.
I m vegetarian among a group of friends who r non veg,they grill me all the time to try meat. I can contest people can be so annoying and self-righteous. Someday I m gonna go balistic on them and they gonna regret it
Don't. Never back down when the facts are on your side, but stay calm and stay objective. This serves the purpose way better, although it sometimes is pretty tempting to just scream some reason into a certain kind of meat-extremist. On the other hand, the real extremists, antivegans and the like, aren't likely to get it anyway, so there isn't much wrong in annoying them...
Load More Replies...I wonder how much canned fruits and veggies are. I KNOW fresh is best, but with these prices, who can afford them? (not at all about vegan or not, just curious)
If it's like the center of Australia, which can have similar problems, part of the issue is that the weight of the tins makes it worse. More is because people simply must pay the shocking prices, so those who ship it are able to make bank off those who have no other option.
Load More Replies...I'm peskitarian, my mum is vegan, my brother and dad both eat meat, my best friend is vegetarian, so yeah after growing up in that environment I don't really care about what people eat. But these prices are downright ridiculous.
I do not have patience for vegans. Most are loathsome and out of touch.
The fundamental problem is that humans have spread to inhospitable parts of the planet.
My Christmas list would be nothing but fruits and vegetables..
Luckily there seems to be a government program and you can apply for subsidized food https://www.nutritionnorthcanada.gc.ca/eng/1415385762263/1415385790537
Why focus on one of the very few areas where it's more expensive to eat meat?
I agree with SapphireLightning, Vegan diet is not just fruits and vegetable, but WHOLE grains and legumes, all four equally important for human health. Unlike meat, dairy, and egg industries, producers of plant-based food do not get subsidies from the government, no tax loopholes, that sure would significantly reduce price of produce. It really looks like that Bored Panda likes to feature the subject of plant-based food, it attracts many vegan haters, and comments just keep pouring in.
I'm a vegan, I'm against industrialised use of all animals, but I would never say anything about indigenous people using good hunting methods to feed themselves! It's the modern, western world that has gone crazy and schizofrenic, it's a world where it's difficult to live a natural and healthy life anymore, because of the aggressive industrialism where money is all that matters. We all need to feed ourselves and our families, in any way possible, and we have to do it within our means. And maybe work for a change! For instance, there are so much food being thrown away without any fault, fresh food, by market places - why not give it away to far away places who need it? Including refugee camps, l say! Or starving people in poor places. Instead fruits and vegetables are rotting in big heaps, because people with money can't pay for shipments!
Never really thought about the cost of vegetables much, until an ex-colleague of mine moved to the Outer Hebrides off the west of coast of Scotland. She related how expensive and hard-to-get fresh produce was... I try to eat seasonally and produce (except for expensive soft fruits that I rarely eat because of the price) that is either local or has travelled the fewest miles. I eat a bit of meat, mostly chicken and am open to eating vegetarian meals but would not enjoy a full 100% vegan diet as I eat quite a few eggs and my fair share of dairy products,
Everything is megabucks up there. I had a few friends who wanted to start indoor greenhouses and grow local food but the amount of red tape is really crazy. It us almost as if the people in charge of shipping up there refuse to let anyone interfere with their lucrative business. Canada coukd change and help the people up there for the better, they choose not to though. It is a very strange situation.
Human greed and cruelty does not just harm animals, it destroys us all.
Load More Replies.......... not if people put in charge (vote for) greedy, corrupt crooks.
Load More Replies...I don't know, how about people make their own choices about how to live and respect others' rights to do the same?
Because we live in a connected world where our choices have consequences for those around us? Where there are issues we can only face with a united purpose?
Load More Replies...Also, we send humans to the space, and many developed countries are dealing with obesity epidemic. But we couldn't send nutritious food to people who live in places fruits and veggies don't grow at affordable prices. This is so wrong on so many levels
I mean...not really. Space travel and the science behind it benefits mankind as a whole. Feeding a small group or Inuits just benefits that small group of Inuits.
Load More Replies...I wonder how they are able to get vitamin C for example --and other nutrition if they only eat meat??
The short summer provides fruits, berries, roots, greens, and some evergreens have needles you make a vit-C-rich tea out of. Grew up having to forage to eat enough. And they do NOT eat only meat! Also fish, and aforementioned roots, berries, etc. Heck, in a pinch, you can eat some lichens.
Load More Replies...Would it not be cheaper to post fresh foods on? or is the post ridiculously high?
Wow! Are those real prices? It would be cheaper if I go shopping for her once a week and mail it to her. If it would get there fast enough....
Another sad thing about these prices is that a lot of that food will go bad before selling at those ridiculous prices, so everyone loses.
And due to global warming, you'll be able to grow many of these items yourself in 20 years.
1st World people and/or well off city people living in comfy modern suburbia can afford to be whatever they want and live whatever lifestyle they want. Unfortunately, the bulk of the planet's population can't afford that luxury and have to make do with the available resources.
Yeah, that's true, but I doubt they will benefit from adopting the western way of binging on meat every day. While we are slowly learning how dumb and selfish that is, they could skip this step just as they could skip burning coal in powerplants - why repeat mistakes, when you already can see they are mistakes?
Load More Replies...Anything imported is outrageously priced. When I was a kid on the island of Guam, Hi-C, Spam and toilet paper were super expensive. American servicemen often paid their tab in bars and restaurants with toilet paper rolls that they nabbed from the latrine before leaving base.
Guess the vegan wo went after her for not being vergan was some fresh of the mill hop on the train vegan who can't be bothered to assess a situation before comenting on it and was toos cared to take it up with some folks in the neigborhood - so it had to be someone who lives far faaaar away that had to take the ignorant's attack... What I am truly surprised tho - aside from the high prices for fresh veggies and fruits (like how could anyone afford that? Let alone ppl living super remotely...) - is that frozen goods, canned and dry goods also cost so much more... And rly... folks like that ,who have lived for centuries in harmony with nature and cherish it for everything it gives to them shouldn't be bashed for it - if anything we should look at them as role models and adapt their ways fitting to our surroundings... more peace and less cruelty for everyone involved...
Being a vegan is simply a choice that many of us can't afford. It's also a choice whether to be a complete ignorant jerk or not. I sure wish produce weren't so expensive there for you all. Hunting the way you guys do is how any animal should be used for food. Every single part should be used with care. Respect the animal and appreciate their sacrifice so you can live.
I thought growing up in Alaska years ago was bad. These prices are insane
Yes, that would save all life on our planet, Bill. "If the world went vegan: we would free up land the size of Africa and need only 20 % of it to feed 8 billion herbivores.'
Load More Replies...So much plastic ! Also, since I don't live so up north, can anyone tell me why the food there is so expensive ? I guess other (non vegan) kinds of food are also very expensive there. Can you tell me the price for dairy products in comparison ? This post seems a lot anti-vegan and biased.
It's simple: people should eat wherever they want to eat, and let others eat whatever they want to eat.
Agustin Melendez, the animal agriculture is destroying our planet and causing emergence and spread of zoonotic viruses, like Covid 19, and whole host of threats including antibiotic - resistent bacteria, egg-borne Salmonella, bird flu (avian influenza) H7N7, swine flu, H1N1, SARS, mad cow diseases, and ever more dangerous strains of influenza.
Load More Replies...i understand the insane prices for the food, but who is able/rich enough to buy it out there??
All that vegans want is less suffering of sentient beings because of the choices they make. So if you dont have a choice, it is simple, you do what you can. Im a vegan myself and I understand it is not doable for everybody. The thing I dislike though is that so many people who do have a choice act like they dont. If you life in a first world country, not in poverty and not in extreme areas where there are hardly no supermarkets, you do have the power to make a choice. Vegans are being seen as extremists, but killing an innocent animal just for a snack IF you can easily eat something else is way more extreme.
....... in paradoxical and destructive society.
Load More Replies...Veganism will do more to help the Inuit people than anything else. Unless millions more people adopt a vegan lifestyle global warming will be completely out of control and there will be no ice in the artic.
Wow, while I completely agree with telling the vegans and vegetarians to leave these people in peace, I'm actually concerned about how they manage to feed themselves. Yes, yes, I get the hunting, but I would think that they need to supplement their diets somehow, and these prices just aren't it. This is shocking. And yes, I'm privileged. Not rich, but not starving by any means.
And YET one of the comments is "I'd like to know the cost of the _actual_ staple vegan food" As if veggies were a fancy complement. The extent of denial in some vegans is just appalling. When presented with facts, they still try to guilt trip inuits.
I think those vegans shoudl just move to Alaska and try to live on a poor person's income. I have a lot of repsect for veganism, but soem people really need to get a grip - or find a real religion to follow.
Fresh produce is one thing, but over 100 dollars for water, 40 for juice boxes, these companies should be held accountable.
It's not the companies, it's the shipping. Water and juice boxes are heavy and awkward to ship, and the only way to get to some of these communities is by airplane. There are no roads or railways, and they can only have small runways for small planes. ...///... Stop parading your ignorance.
Load More Replies...The Dalai Lama eats meat. The body requires it. Meat is what made us human. When humans started to eat meat on a regular basis, that’s what kickstarted our brains to become as large as they are, to be as capable and creative as they are. Those brains require large amounts of protein to grow and function. The problem is not eating meat, it’s corporate abuse of animals and the farmers who depend on them.
Arenite, "MD" or "PhD" ???? where did you get this nonsense? You sure do not know that the human brain accounts only to 2 % of entire body mass, but it require 20 % of total fuel expenditure. While cells in the body can use different types of fuel (carbohydrates, fats, proteins), the brain CANNOT, it can use only one type of fuel: sugar glucose!!! The complex carbohydrates are fruits, vegetables, WHOLE grains, and legumes and they are converted by the human body to.... sugar glucose (NOT meat). Judging by your "smarts" your brain is starving. The human brain does NON require meat, just the opposite is true - animal proteins cause allergies, inflammations, and diseases, such as arthritis, diabetes, heart diseases/clogged arteries, various types of cancer, and ......Alzheimer's, that is a brain disease.
Load More Replies...Vegans need to learn to mind their own damned business. Just tell 'em to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Vegans want to protect our planet and ALL life it supports. Vegans want to breathe clean air and drink clean water, and that makes it their "damned" business. You, John Baker have no right to destroy, plunder, torture, and kill.
Load More Replies...Those prices are insane! I'd love to see a preachy vegan's genuine reaction to these, ask them how long they think they could stay vegan if this was the only vegan food they could get.
Wow! Shocked (not shocked) at all of the militant vegans doubling down on their criticisms of Inuit diet and way of life. This is why most of them are scorned and laughed at. Humans are meant to eat meat... period.
How about some of these over privileged vegans try a year north of 60 in a small community. Get out of their comfort zones and see what living closer to the land is like. Sorry, but there won't be any soy lattes.
Chich, not all vegans are "over privilidged", but they are compassionate and smart - their diet keeps their bodies pain and diseases free, saves them a lot of money on doctors visits, healthcare insurance premiums and deductibles, since they do not need any disease management.
Load More Replies...This is NOT in American dollars. Its like showing Mexican prices in Pecos. Looks like a fortune but isn't in reality. This is a piece written to alrm and mis-inform.
I believe that being vegan is a very expensive way of eating and living. Having said that, I can't imagine my life without fruit and veggies. How do those people manage? Are they healthy? What sort of government allows those prices? It's shocking!
Thalia, you believe wrong; you have to take to account the price of disease management (wrongly called health care) not just the price of food.
Load More Replies...The company I work for was once on the wrong end of a vegan shitstorm for taking photos of chefs with dead pigs - so I can see there is an ugly, aggressive side to veganism. I wish there weren't so many self-righteous, judgemental vegans out there who achieve the opposite result they were aiming for with their behavior. I agree that we should all eat less meat (particularly less beef), if not for the sake of the animals, then for the sake of our planet and our health. But people won't be convinced by being shamed and judged.
Load More Replies...Nobody hunting for food over hunts. Animals hunted to extinction has always been for trophies or non-food body parts. The greatest threats to most species isn't hunting, but habitat loss (to humans) and climate change.
Load More Replies...Iceland are a major grower and exporter of veg and salad. If they can do it others can too.
Load More Replies...People get angry coz you are essentially telling people what to do. Some people literally cannot live on a vegan diet for numerous reasons. Acting like a vegan diet is the only diet is ignorant. Be a vegan for all I care, that is your choice, just like it is my choice to eat meat. I would much rather the animals were treated better before being killed for food and hopefully one day the animals will be. Fact is there is absolutely nothing that is animal cruelty free, even your vegan diet kills animals. People have been eating meat since humans began and will continue to do so until we die out. It’s a fact of life and no amount of vegan protests, chanting, berating etc is gonna change that.
Load More Replies...They've lived there since the last Ice Age. Why should anyone move to suit you? One day, you might stop being a self righteous snot, but I'm not holding my breath.
Load More Replies...Veganism is not a cult - it's a lifestyle. As others pointed out, a plantbased lifestyle tries to reduce harm. Not eating meat is a great way to reduce suffering for animals, reduces one's carbon footprint, is good for the economy and for one's health. I am a vegan myself and while I acknowledge that it is not possible for everyone on this planet to go vegan, I am convinced that those who can, should. Especially in the so called "privileged" first world. The amount of meat we eat is unsustainable. Forests are burned down to grow food for 60 billion farm animals every year, but we fail to feed 8 billion people on this planet? It does not make much sense. The production of meat is highly subsidised by governments and producers are not held accountable for the damage they do the environment, which helps to to keep the prices of meat even lower. If everyone would have to pay the true cost of meat-production, consumption would go down fast. Why not subsidise healthy produce in the Arctic?
Load More Replies...They have lived there longer than the Roman Empire had been around. Why don’t you research history.
Load More Replies...I'm a vegetarian, but lets be honest. A skilled hunter killing an animal and using as much of that animal as possible is how an animal should be used.
The vegans and vegetarians around me are pretty respectful and open-minded. The folks who bug me more are the urban meat-eaters who feel bad for animals that are hunted. Factory-farming is better??
Load More Replies...Upvoted and stood and clapped. I was reading thru before I posted the exact same. How bout you mind your diet and I will mind mine!
Load More Replies...This is a problem in so many places healthy food, whether vegan or not, is out of the price range of a lot of people. All those celebrity and nutritionist diets are just too expensive for all but the highest income earners.
There are food deserts throughout the US. Community farm plots are springing up & many are buying direct from local/regional farms & farmer markets. These efforts & relationship are crucial to the health of consumers & non-corporate farms.
Load More Replies...What's the betting that the same people who shame indigenous people for their lifestyle are also those who shout loudest about "cultural appropriation"?
To commenter Saphirelightning who thinks the poster is ingenuous because a healthy diet includes five fruits and vegetables a day, therefore these photos are not inclusive of all options. Yes, they are. It is ingenuous to think that people in "food deserts" like the Antarctic (and urban and rural areas of even first world countries) have the privilege of eating 5 fruits and vegetables a day. Please look in your own backyard and see what poor people have access to and what they can afford to buy on their income.
I think they do have a point in just that the prices shown showed fresh vegetables, but you can buy dried legumes in a bad. It's about $1 for a bad here in MN. I'd be very curious what it costs there. Considering the cost of the peanuts they did show, seems those would also be exhorbitantly-priced. I would add that one thing about eating lots of vegetables is the vitamins and nutrients. The native people of the arctic used to eat most of the animals they hunt, including organs. If they still do that, they are getting vitamins from the meat - vitamins that most people in the US would never get from eating meat.
Load More Replies...Most vegans I've encountered personally have come across preachy and self-righteous. Not saying all are that way, just my experience.
I think the self-righteousness etc started with PETA. This kind of militant veganism ignoring of the facts to promote the cause at all costs has kinda spawned from them. And the facts don't matter; vegans (some not all) will outright lie to push the cause even if their lies do more harm than good. Even though PETA has fallen out of favor (puppy killing practices, killing animals to free them etc) now, their methods kinda prevail.
Load More Replies...$105 for 24 500ml bottles of water?!? It's $4 in Montreal for the same thing! I knew it would cost more, but not THAT much more. I get it - the weight of the item plays a role in the price due to the cost of shipping. But seriously, the government needs to honour its promises about making sure everyone has clean, drinkable water. Every time I hear someone say, "Oh but you Canadians are so nice." I'm like, "Oh yeah? Lemme tell you a few things..."
I'm not sure that should really be the government's problem. Also, most arctic areas have running water. Bottled water is and always will be overpriced.
Load More Replies...How do you survive when you can't afford any fresh fruit or veg? I am sure there are some native berries for vit C that can be seasonally picked and preserved, but charging that much for produce is insane. I feel like the government should be subsidizing food in the arctic region so people can actually afford to eat it.
Animal organ meat, especially livers, has vitamin C in it. If you have a meat-based diet you have to eat the whole animal to survive, not just the lean muscle we mostly use in the western world.
Load More Replies...I have no problem with Vegans but in most Indigenous peoples only take what they need! So it's not like 1000 of animals are hunted a day by one tribe maybe over many tribes yes but I honk you get my point
My sister in Canada's Northwest Territories explained that it's illegal to waste wild meat. Outside the pandemic times, when a trophy hunter (who pays big bucks) kills an animal, it's given to the elders, who then distribute the meat.
Load More Replies...I don't think hunting is cruel- killpens and the such? That's cruelty. I could never bring myself to hunt, but that's because I don't need to. If hunting is done properly, the animals know no suffering.
I think that people are trash and love to pick on the people with less power then themselves, no matter if it's people picking on the vegans or the inuit. get over yourselves.
even some places in the 'south' have prices of produce that prevents people from eating them regularly. it's why so many, including myself, have learned to gardent and can. in my youth, i remember prices being so prohibited that my mom would give us half and apple because she couldn't afford to give us a whole one.
you know when the only way to get stuff up there are plane, no wonder everything is costly
Finally, someone points it out ----- if you live remote and impoverished, you eat what's there, and affordable. Vegans need to get out of their privileged shells and try living where, and at the same wages, as the people they criticize. If all you can afford to eat for meat is squirrel, then that's what you eat. If you can't afford fresh veg, you eat canned. If you live where farming is prohibitive due to climate? You find other ways to live. It's not some weird vampiric-horror-movie bloodthirst, for pity's sake. It's SURVIVAL.
Hard-line vegan of 12 years here and I think the way they hunt and use of all the animal, to me that's the ONLY acceptable and respectful form of hunting, if I had to do it this way I would absolutely eat meat.
I m vegetarian among a group of friends who r non veg,they grill me all the time to try meat. I can contest people can be so annoying and self-righteous. Someday I m gonna go balistic on them and they gonna regret it
Don't. Never back down when the facts are on your side, but stay calm and stay objective. This serves the purpose way better, although it sometimes is pretty tempting to just scream some reason into a certain kind of meat-extremist. On the other hand, the real extremists, antivegans and the like, aren't likely to get it anyway, so there isn't much wrong in annoying them...
Load More Replies...I wonder how much canned fruits and veggies are. I KNOW fresh is best, but with these prices, who can afford them? (not at all about vegan or not, just curious)
If it's like the center of Australia, which can have similar problems, part of the issue is that the weight of the tins makes it worse. More is because people simply must pay the shocking prices, so those who ship it are able to make bank off those who have no other option.
Load More Replies...I'm peskitarian, my mum is vegan, my brother and dad both eat meat, my best friend is vegetarian, so yeah after growing up in that environment I don't really care about what people eat. But these prices are downright ridiculous.
I do not have patience for vegans. Most are loathsome and out of touch.
The fundamental problem is that humans have spread to inhospitable parts of the planet.
My Christmas list would be nothing but fruits and vegetables..
Luckily there seems to be a government program and you can apply for subsidized food https://www.nutritionnorthcanada.gc.ca/eng/1415385762263/1415385790537
Why focus on one of the very few areas where it's more expensive to eat meat?
I agree with SapphireLightning, Vegan diet is not just fruits and vegetable, but WHOLE grains and legumes, all four equally important for human health. Unlike meat, dairy, and egg industries, producers of plant-based food do not get subsidies from the government, no tax loopholes, that sure would significantly reduce price of produce. It really looks like that Bored Panda likes to feature the subject of plant-based food, it attracts many vegan haters, and comments just keep pouring in.
I'm a vegan, I'm against industrialised use of all animals, but I would never say anything about indigenous people using good hunting methods to feed themselves! It's the modern, western world that has gone crazy and schizofrenic, it's a world where it's difficult to live a natural and healthy life anymore, because of the aggressive industrialism where money is all that matters. We all need to feed ourselves and our families, in any way possible, and we have to do it within our means. And maybe work for a change! For instance, there are so much food being thrown away without any fault, fresh food, by market places - why not give it away to far away places who need it? Including refugee camps, l say! Or starving people in poor places. Instead fruits and vegetables are rotting in big heaps, because people with money can't pay for shipments!
Never really thought about the cost of vegetables much, until an ex-colleague of mine moved to the Outer Hebrides off the west of coast of Scotland. She related how expensive and hard-to-get fresh produce was... I try to eat seasonally and produce (except for expensive soft fruits that I rarely eat because of the price) that is either local or has travelled the fewest miles. I eat a bit of meat, mostly chicken and am open to eating vegetarian meals but would not enjoy a full 100% vegan diet as I eat quite a few eggs and my fair share of dairy products,
Everything is megabucks up there. I had a few friends who wanted to start indoor greenhouses and grow local food but the amount of red tape is really crazy. It us almost as if the people in charge of shipping up there refuse to let anyone interfere with their lucrative business. Canada coukd change and help the people up there for the better, they choose not to though. It is a very strange situation.
Human greed and cruelty does not just harm animals, it destroys us all.
Load More Replies.......... not if people put in charge (vote for) greedy, corrupt crooks.
Load More Replies...I don't know, how about people make their own choices about how to live and respect others' rights to do the same?
Because we live in a connected world where our choices have consequences for those around us? Where there are issues we can only face with a united purpose?
Load More Replies...Also, we send humans to the space, and many developed countries are dealing with obesity epidemic. But we couldn't send nutritious food to people who live in places fruits and veggies don't grow at affordable prices. This is so wrong on so many levels
I mean...not really. Space travel and the science behind it benefits mankind as a whole. Feeding a small group or Inuits just benefits that small group of Inuits.
Load More Replies...I wonder how they are able to get vitamin C for example --and other nutrition if they only eat meat??
The short summer provides fruits, berries, roots, greens, and some evergreens have needles you make a vit-C-rich tea out of. Grew up having to forage to eat enough. And they do NOT eat only meat! Also fish, and aforementioned roots, berries, etc. Heck, in a pinch, you can eat some lichens.
Load More Replies...Would it not be cheaper to post fresh foods on? or is the post ridiculously high?
Wow! Are those real prices? It would be cheaper if I go shopping for her once a week and mail it to her. If it would get there fast enough....
Another sad thing about these prices is that a lot of that food will go bad before selling at those ridiculous prices, so everyone loses.
And due to global warming, you'll be able to grow many of these items yourself in 20 years.
1st World people and/or well off city people living in comfy modern suburbia can afford to be whatever they want and live whatever lifestyle they want. Unfortunately, the bulk of the planet's population can't afford that luxury and have to make do with the available resources.
Yeah, that's true, but I doubt they will benefit from adopting the western way of binging on meat every day. While we are slowly learning how dumb and selfish that is, they could skip this step just as they could skip burning coal in powerplants - why repeat mistakes, when you already can see they are mistakes?
Load More Replies...Anything imported is outrageously priced. When I was a kid on the island of Guam, Hi-C, Spam and toilet paper were super expensive. American servicemen often paid their tab in bars and restaurants with toilet paper rolls that they nabbed from the latrine before leaving base.
Guess the vegan wo went after her for not being vergan was some fresh of the mill hop on the train vegan who can't be bothered to assess a situation before comenting on it and was toos cared to take it up with some folks in the neigborhood - so it had to be someone who lives far faaaar away that had to take the ignorant's attack... What I am truly surprised tho - aside from the high prices for fresh veggies and fruits (like how could anyone afford that? Let alone ppl living super remotely...) - is that frozen goods, canned and dry goods also cost so much more... And rly... folks like that ,who have lived for centuries in harmony with nature and cherish it for everything it gives to them shouldn't be bashed for it - if anything we should look at them as role models and adapt their ways fitting to our surroundings... more peace and less cruelty for everyone involved...
Being a vegan is simply a choice that many of us can't afford. It's also a choice whether to be a complete ignorant jerk or not. I sure wish produce weren't so expensive there for you all. Hunting the way you guys do is how any animal should be used for food. Every single part should be used with care. Respect the animal and appreciate their sacrifice so you can live.
I thought growing up in Alaska years ago was bad. These prices are insane
Yes, that would save all life on our planet, Bill. "If the world went vegan: we would free up land the size of Africa and need only 20 % of it to feed 8 billion herbivores.'
Load More Replies...So much plastic ! Also, since I don't live so up north, can anyone tell me why the food there is so expensive ? I guess other (non vegan) kinds of food are also very expensive there. Can you tell me the price for dairy products in comparison ? This post seems a lot anti-vegan and biased.
It's simple: people should eat wherever they want to eat, and let others eat whatever they want to eat.
Agustin Melendez, the animal agriculture is destroying our planet and causing emergence and spread of zoonotic viruses, like Covid 19, and whole host of threats including antibiotic - resistent bacteria, egg-borne Salmonella, bird flu (avian influenza) H7N7, swine flu, H1N1, SARS, mad cow diseases, and ever more dangerous strains of influenza.
Load More Replies...i understand the insane prices for the food, but who is able/rich enough to buy it out there??
All that vegans want is less suffering of sentient beings because of the choices they make. So if you dont have a choice, it is simple, you do what you can. Im a vegan myself and I understand it is not doable for everybody. The thing I dislike though is that so many people who do have a choice act like they dont. If you life in a first world country, not in poverty and not in extreme areas where there are hardly no supermarkets, you do have the power to make a choice. Vegans are being seen as extremists, but killing an innocent animal just for a snack IF you can easily eat something else is way more extreme.
....... in paradoxical and destructive society.
Load More Replies...Veganism will do more to help the Inuit people than anything else. Unless millions more people adopt a vegan lifestyle global warming will be completely out of control and there will be no ice in the artic.
Wow, while I completely agree with telling the vegans and vegetarians to leave these people in peace, I'm actually concerned about how they manage to feed themselves. Yes, yes, I get the hunting, but I would think that they need to supplement their diets somehow, and these prices just aren't it. This is shocking. And yes, I'm privileged. Not rich, but not starving by any means.
And YET one of the comments is "I'd like to know the cost of the _actual_ staple vegan food" As if veggies were a fancy complement. The extent of denial in some vegans is just appalling. When presented with facts, they still try to guilt trip inuits.
I think those vegans shoudl just move to Alaska and try to live on a poor person's income. I have a lot of repsect for veganism, but soem people really need to get a grip - or find a real religion to follow.
Fresh produce is one thing, but over 100 dollars for water, 40 for juice boxes, these companies should be held accountable.
It's not the companies, it's the shipping. Water and juice boxes are heavy and awkward to ship, and the only way to get to some of these communities is by airplane. There are no roads or railways, and they can only have small runways for small planes. ...///... Stop parading your ignorance.
Load More Replies...The Dalai Lama eats meat. The body requires it. Meat is what made us human. When humans started to eat meat on a regular basis, that’s what kickstarted our brains to become as large as they are, to be as capable and creative as they are. Those brains require large amounts of protein to grow and function. The problem is not eating meat, it’s corporate abuse of animals and the farmers who depend on them.
Arenite, "MD" or "PhD" ???? where did you get this nonsense? You sure do not know that the human brain accounts only to 2 % of entire body mass, but it require 20 % of total fuel expenditure. While cells in the body can use different types of fuel (carbohydrates, fats, proteins), the brain CANNOT, it can use only one type of fuel: sugar glucose!!! The complex carbohydrates are fruits, vegetables, WHOLE grains, and legumes and they are converted by the human body to.... sugar glucose (NOT meat). Judging by your "smarts" your brain is starving. The human brain does NON require meat, just the opposite is true - animal proteins cause allergies, inflammations, and diseases, such as arthritis, diabetes, heart diseases/clogged arteries, various types of cancer, and ......Alzheimer's, that is a brain disease.
Load More Replies...Vegans need to learn to mind their own damned business. Just tell 'em to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Vegans want to protect our planet and ALL life it supports. Vegans want to breathe clean air and drink clean water, and that makes it their "damned" business. You, John Baker have no right to destroy, plunder, torture, and kill.
Load More Replies...Those prices are insane! I'd love to see a preachy vegan's genuine reaction to these, ask them how long they think they could stay vegan if this was the only vegan food they could get.
Wow! Shocked (not shocked) at all of the militant vegans doubling down on their criticisms of Inuit diet and way of life. This is why most of them are scorned and laughed at. Humans are meant to eat meat... period.
How about some of these over privileged vegans try a year north of 60 in a small community. Get out of their comfort zones and see what living closer to the land is like. Sorry, but there won't be any soy lattes.
Chich, not all vegans are "over privilidged", but they are compassionate and smart - their diet keeps their bodies pain and diseases free, saves them a lot of money on doctors visits, healthcare insurance premiums and deductibles, since they do not need any disease management.
Load More Replies...This is NOT in American dollars. Its like showing Mexican prices in Pecos. Looks like a fortune but isn't in reality. This is a piece written to alrm and mis-inform.
I believe that being vegan is a very expensive way of eating and living. Having said that, I can't imagine my life without fruit and veggies. How do those people manage? Are they healthy? What sort of government allows those prices? It's shocking!
Thalia, you believe wrong; you have to take to account the price of disease management (wrongly called health care) not just the price of food.
Load More Replies...The company I work for was once on the wrong end of a vegan shitstorm for taking photos of chefs with dead pigs - so I can see there is an ugly, aggressive side to veganism. I wish there weren't so many self-righteous, judgemental vegans out there who achieve the opposite result they were aiming for with their behavior. I agree that we should all eat less meat (particularly less beef), if not for the sake of the animals, then for the sake of our planet and our health. But people won't be convinced by being shamed and judged.
Load More Replies...Nobody hunting for food over hunts. Animals hunted to extinction has always been for trophies or non-food body parts. The greatest threats to most species isn't hunting, but habitat loss (to humans) and climate change.
Load More Replies...Iceland are a major grower and exporter of veg and salad. If they can do it others can too.
Load More Replies...People get angry coz you are essentially telling people what to do. Some people literally cannot live on a vegan diet for numerous reasons. Acting like a vegan diet is the only diet is ignorant. Be a vegan for all I care, that is your choice, just like it is my choice to eat meat. I would much rather the animals were treated better before being killed for food and hopefully one day the animals will be. Fact is there is absolutely nothing that is animal cruelty free, even your vegan diet kills animals. People have been eating meat since humans began and will continue to do so until we die out. It’s a fact of life and no amount of vegan protests, chanting, berating etc is gonna change that.
Load More Replies...They've lived there since the last Ice Age. Why should anyone move to suit you? One day, you might stop being a self righteous snot, but I'm not holding my breath.
Load More Replies...Veganism is not a cult - it's a lifestyle. As others pointed out, a plantbased lifestyle tries to reduce harm. Not eating meat is a great way to reduce suffering for animals, reduces one's carbon footprint, is good for the economy and for one's health. I am a vegan myself and while I acknowledge that it is not possible for everyone on this planet to go vegan, I am convinced that those who can, should. Especially in the so called "privileged" first world. The amount of meat we eat is unsustainable. Forests are burned down to grow food for 60 billion farm animals every year, but we fail to feed 8 billion people on this planet? It does not make much sense. The production of meat is highly subsidised by governments and producers are not held accountable for the damage they do the environment, which helps to to keep the prices of meat even lower. If everyone would have to pay the true cost of meat-production, consumption would go down fast. Why not subsidise healthy produce in the Arctic?
Load More Replies...They have lived there longer than the Roman Empire had been around. Why don’t you research history.
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