Three decades after the release of the bestseller 'Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus,' the debate over how and why men and women are different from each other and what that means for their roles in society is far from settled.
However, a survey by the Pew Research Center found that majorities of Americans say they are different in their physical abilities, their personal interests, their approach to parenting, and the way they express their feelings.
Reddit user u/Diligent-Log6805 decided to explore the relationship between these two sexes from a male perspective and made a post on the platform, asking: "Guys, what do women do that give you the ick?" Immediately, the answers started pouring in.
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Denigrating and emasculating men who show emotions. It's honestly one of the most f****d up things anyone can do to another person.
Also, using a man's kids as pawns in disputes, like cutting off visitation because you're mad at him. Don't f*****g do that, it's just cruel to the kids.
The last point is sadly very common - SIL is a family lawyer and this is a trick that is used in the guise of 'doing the best for my children' when the majority of the time it's patently the opposite.
Can’t upvote this enough. I made arrangements with my hubby before having children. I hope we grow old together, but if something happens and he isn’t my best friend anymore, my children aren’t the victim of our disagreements.
Load More Replies...Parental Alienation is child abuse and I hope the fanily courts will soon start watching for it
I see my son one hour a month with my mother hovering over. Sadly I have two only children.
Load More Replies...Or saying that violence against men is feminism. It's not feminism; it's violence.
Have women really said this to you? I’m a feminist, and I would never say this to a man!
Load More Replies...We lost my husband when our son was 4. I raised him by myself through the grace of God. This last comment infuriates me. Children NEED fathers. I watched my son struggle without one and had to try to make up the difference myself. Thank God for my dad and brothers. Keep your problems separate from the kids, let them have both of you.
Let a man be himself. If a man has emotions and you dont want to see them then leave..
I'm a paralegal and the amount of parents I see using their children to hurt each other is appalling.
Letting men feel the feelings they have and if they cry, let them cry!
The last point is rather sad in general, cause it works both ways. When I decided to divorce and suggested my now ex-husband to share custody 50/50, he just disappeared and neither visit nor talk to our son, I’m not even talking about financial support.
We got in touch with u/Diligent-Log6805 and the Redditor agreed to have a chat with us about his post.
"Just before I asked that question, [I was talking to someone] about a relative who's had a series of failed relationships and we were wondering whether she or her boyfriends were the problem. So I went to Reddit to ask," he told Bored Panda.
And the discussion took off. It now has 18.8K upvotes and 13.5K comments.
Refer to themselves as a boss b***h, queen, princess, or baddie.
It's the female equivalent of a dude calling themselves an "Alpha Male". Instant red flag.
Spent extended time with convicts, intimidaters, abusers, etc. It took way too long for me to discover 99% of these self-proclaimed alpha males listened to Britney Spears, posed as tough guys, and all the libraries in the world couldn't make them smarter than they thought they were.
Load More Replies...The line of thinking bothers me as well....do they think men like being treated as servants?
Load More Replies...If my GF would refer to herself as queen I'd remind her what happend to the last monarch of this country... (He got exiled)
Yeah, not going to chase you, not going to worship you, you are either an interesting person with a real personality or you are a pain.
the whole queen and king bs REALLY pisses me off. You know those words have real meanings, they mean specific things? AND.. those things aint you.
The word b***h isn't used in most circles as insulting. I, on the other hand, don't like it.
Hilariously fake eyelashes
just so you know, most women who go all out on their makeup do it for other women
There's a fabulous little shop near me run by some lovely ladies and they have huge fake eyelashes. They seem a tad over the top for work anyway, but one sits and brushes them at the till. Sorry, just seems weird to me!
S**t like this is stupid. It’s a personal choice to wear whatever someone wants. It’s not for men’s enjoyment.
No, but in fairness, this is a list of things that give (some) dudes the ick. They can’t help the ick, and the reason why women do it won’t change the fact that they get the ick. The ick just happens to people, nobody can control when they get it or not.
Load More Replies...Just a note, if you are going to the eye doctor, leave the fake eye lashes and heavy makeup at home. The eye lashes make it hard for you to open your eye fully, I had a woman with lashes so long I couldn't do any tests because she was complaining that the machines that never touch your eye were pressing on her lashes. Then wanted to wear contacts so she could always wear her lashes but had never worn them before , so wer are teaching her but she couldn't get them in because her massive eye lashes were in the way and she had like inch long nails as well . She was frustrated, I was frustrated, the doctor was frustrated. Everyone had a bad experience.
I just hate fake eyelashes. I understand that most women have very short eyelashes but OMGGGG
When asked about any topics that stood out to him in the thread, u/Diligent-Log6805 said, "There seemed to be a pattern where guys feel like women give nonverbal cues and expect men to correctly interpret those cues instead of clearly saying what's on their minds."
"This leads to a lot of miscommunication."
The f*****g testing.
I appreciate that you have been in previous relationships where someone lied and/or cheated on you but don't spend your entire single life trying to catch me in some lie so you can have your self fulfilling prophecy that all men are liars.
And expecting, expecting nice things to be said or done...cant get mad when you don't get or hear nice things...and if you don't like it then leave, that person isn't nice!
Both genders do this, and it is absolutely unfair to the new SO. They haven’t done any of the c**p your old SOs did to you, so why are you making them pay for the others’ bad behavior right off the bat? It’s a good way to chase off some perfectly wonderful people, the kind you really should be with.
Especially ideas you get off tiktok... If I pulled that glitter under the coffee pot b******t on my husband instead of taking less time to clean it myself I think it might have been a marriage ender
I'm personally curious 🤔! Please tell me you have a specific experience or situation in mind!
Load More Replies...Word. “Testing” of that kind is a nope - I don’t care about the gender. If you can’t get over past occurrences enough to assume your partner is innocent until there’s an actual reason to believe otherwise, don’t go into a relationship - go to therapy. No trust = no relationship.
The last test I took was mathematics in college. I can't decide which are worse than Hell- the ones in the Math department at the university or the ones from women.
Duckface. It’s 2023. Duckface was cringe 15 years ago but some women are STILL doing it.
I´m a straight woman and i find duckface and every other stupid ´cute´ grimace women (and men too!) do on photos/social media as massive cringe.
My favorite is when they go for the duck face with spray tan orange skin and plumped up hotdog lips trifecta 💋 bonus points for Betty crocker frosting pink lipstick
Yes! Who is telling them that that's a good look? It's crazily cringe. Also, is it just me or do they all look the same?
Load More Replies...I'm not sure which is worse, duckface or tongue extruding. The only person who needs to see your tongue is your Dr and dentist
Lipfillers baffle me. I totally against judging people on appearances, but in my opinion I've not seen anyone look better with lip fillers. It makes you look like a plastic inflatable sex doll. So if that is the look you're going for, go for it. Otherwise your lips are just fine as they are.
Trigger warning about dead people. So whoever did the makeup for my dads funeral sucked. Imagine 6' 6 ( 2 meter ) 300 lbs ( 136 kilos) man in full military regalia with blue eyeshadow. But the worst part was his lips. He had very thin lips and they tried to make them fuller so they went outside the lines with pinkish lipstick. Its okay to have thin lips.
Load More Replies...It's THE dumbest looking thing, I don't understand why women think it's a good look?!!!
Thank the KarJenners for this c**p. At 40+, Kim is still doing it.
to me its the same thing as bunny ears. just joking around in the photos
"Personally, I think communication is key to harmonious relationships between men and women, especially when there's a disagreement," u/Diligent-Log6805 added. "Basically, try to at least talk and let each other know how you feel about something."
"Lastly a little empathy and patience goes a long way in fostering harmonious interactions between men and women."
When they think a toxic trait of theirs is cute/quirky. There's a big difference between being blunt in a respectful way and being a b***h.
"Yeah I steal change from homeless people! I'm quirky like that!" *insert childish giggle sound*
"I'm not like other girls!!! I like to burn down the animal shelter full of cute kittens!!! I'm just QuIrKy"
In my experience, it's usually fragile men that have an issue with a woman being straight-forward, and -they- are the ones calling her a b***h. That is not to say that there are toxic traits, but unless it's openly toxic? I would suggest asking yourself why you're triggered by something she says or does that is not submissive and/or 'demure'.
You obviously scrolled past the title. This is a list of things WOMEN do that MEN don't appreciate.
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Baby voice
I don't trust anyone who doesn't talk to their pets with a baby voice
But not to their boyfriend... I think that's what he meant. This needs more context
Load More Replies...I remember a Marx Brothers film where Groucho took a lady out in a row boat and she started doing that. He just said 'Was that you or the duck? If it was you, you'll be joining the duck' - or words to that effect.
Horse feathers. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0lCPmaq960E
Load More Replies...The baby voice is fantastic for scary situations though! I use mine whenever I'm playing phasmophobia with friends! Nothing beats the unexpected "come play with me" when we're with a new buddy.
For some people, this is their actual voice, and they can’t help it. For the others, it’s b******t and they just need to start talking normally before I reach out and snatch them baldheaded.
Yep. Dated a guy who voice never went deep. Sounded like a child.
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In Scotland. Obvious fake tan and over done makeup. You're in f*****g Glasgow not madrid
I’m Scottish and I embrace my pale skin. It’s weird to pretend you’ve got a heavy tan when it hasn’t been warm for months lol
Me too. Love the celtic tan. I would go after a pale lassy over take tan every single time.
Load More Replies...Actually valid anywhere. Even when I was young girls would put up so much makeup that they started to look beige... and of course only the face. So in complete dissonance with the rest of their skincolour, like throat and neck area.
This girl said 'sowwie' to me trying to be cute, and I instantly lost interest in her.
Oh I thought it was calling a pig - that's funny. Speaking like a toddler not funny
I did too. Thought they were trying to spell sooie.or sooey. Or suey.
Load More Replies...When people say cray cray, instead of crazy. It sounds like baby talk to me.
Please don't do this, using the UwU language is cringy outside of satire
All baby talk from a non baby should be banned. Unless you're talking to your goodest boy. Then it's fine, because he's the goodest, smartest, handsomest doggy ever
A new guy in my office, standing by a copier in a common area, answered his phone "hewwo" when his gf called and the whole office went dead silent.
Edit: forgot to add it was in a long, drawn out baby voice
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Loudly empathizing with every cause and group on the planet but treating people in their personal lives like trash.
This is not a girl ick, this is a human ick. Same goes for "cherry picking" social issues i.e. caring about housing affordability for the middle class but not giving a s**t about homelessness.
It is a human ick, but to be fair to the OP this is a list about things women do, not people do, and frankly women do this far more often than men. Women are more likely to stand up for or empathize with causes than most men are, actually. Women, generally speaking, are more loud spoken about "causes"-at least where other people will see or read it. That's not to say men don't speak up or empathize at all, of course they do, just not as much and not as loudly.
Load More Replies...I'm sick of people going on and on about their pet cause, I'm not interested.
Littering, Wasting food, Being very materialistic
alot of these are not women issues - they are people issues
Load More Replies...Littering is sickening. Wasting food unfortunately is an American hazard. Being materialistic is awful, but if I buy myself something for which I've worked hard isn't a crime. @BewilderedBanana you are correct!
"Boys may come and boys may go. And that's all right you see. Experience has made me rich. And now they're after me."
But it's okay for men to do this? Let's keep these to behavior that is specific to women.
I think you misunderstood the list a bit. It’s just a list over what gives guys the ick, not “what only women ever do”. If they get the ick they get the ick, it doesn’t in any way equal anybody claiming that men do not also do this.
Load More Replies...This is universal to All Humans not just men thinking it's unattractive in women
Your completely right, but in most European countries for example it is not necessary. And we also have to give Kenia some credit for reducing plastic. With laws far more progressive and environmentally conscious than a lot of ‘first world’ countries.
Load More Replies...To get around these barriers and allow men and women foster harmonious relationships, u/Diligent-Log6805, who is a husband and a father himself, believes that communication is key. Especially when there's a disagreement.
"Basically, try to at least talk and let each other know how you feel about something. [Also,] a little empathy and patience go a long way," he added.
If they act entitled, no one wants to be drained like that
These entitled people most often turn out to be narcissists. And you better keep them as far away from you as possible
Yup. That's four I've counted so far now that are general things and not woman-specific. Is it really that difficult for OP to work out?
Load More Replies...The last time I walked into a job interview and told the company I was entitled to $200 per hour from their payroll department, I was escorted out by security.
I like spending all my money on restaurants, to prove myself as a “cro magnon provider” of food
silent treatment, I've hated it for the longest time, when you do something wrong and you try to apologize and they say nothing is even worse, just hurtful.
Guy, "So, what did I say/do wrong to upset you?" Either *silence* or "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you"
Me "So what you are saying is you don't know either but just want to be angry for no reason...Wanna fight?"
Load More Replies...My husband does this still sometimes (in the Philippines it's known as tampo) and I always have to mention afterwards that stonewalling is seen as one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse as far as relationships are concerned.
I only stay silent if I have nothing nice to say, but it won't last forever. I just need to calm down
Sometimes I need silence because I'm a hot head and not ready to give/receive an apology immediately. It's not done as a game or punishment though. I just need the space so that what follows doesn't turn into an argument. I'll come to talk when I've got a level head.
In that case, you owe the other a person "we'll talk about it later" or at least some indication that now isn't the time to discuss, and not just leave them hanging wondering wtf is up. Making them sit and stew is just as damaging as you think that argument you might get into could be. So while it may not be a game to you, it is a punishment to the other person-intended or not.
Load More Replies...It’s like they treat you like you’re not there, you don’t exist, you’re not worthy of their attention. Beating someone out of existence is a horrible and cruel thing to do to a person.
Or if you do something wrong and haven't realised it, you get the frosty silence. So you tentatively go 'Hey hun. Are you ok?' and you get; '-----Fine-----' in the coldest tone ever, that almost chills you to the core. Why not just say what's bothering you so that we can sort it? I've never known a guy do it but I guess it's possible, but my suspicion is that it's mainly a woman thing.
I'm wondering how many women do this because life has taught them that it isn't safe to say what is actually wrong
Load More Replies...My ex used to do that. Cool! I can read/watch my shows/clean house in peace & quiet. After a few days he'd start pouting because I wasn't begging him to talk to me. One time (after about a week) I told him how much I enjoyed him not pestering me with his incessant chatter. Unfortunately that meant the silent treatment wasn't having it's desired effect and he pretty much knocked it off. Drat! Shot myself in the foot on that one.
My most recent ex did this to me. He didn't like something I did and I acknowledged I was wrong and tried to apologize. This guy ignored all my messages to him and my calls, until I told him I'd give him space and he could reach out when he was ready. It's been 2+ months since the space and he still doesn't want to talk. I took it we are broken up and I'm moving on. Just for clarity, I was out for a movie with my Bestfriend and got home around 10-11PM, he ranted, I profusely apologized and then he ignored me.
That's true. While all relationships are different and each one has its own unique ups and downs, being able to talk to your partner means that you'll be able to share your worries, show support for one another, and work together to handle conflict more effectively.
According to Dr. John Gottman, a clinical psychologist and founder of the Gottman Institute, a couple's communication pattern can even predict how successful a relationship will be.
This can also translate to our overall well-being. For example, one study found that when people feel that their partner values them, they are more likely to sleep better.
Be super clingy, not have a life outside of the relationship, and baby talk when trying to be cute.
Yikes, do they want to date you or be adopted by you? BTW, how old are we talking here, guys? Be sure you find that out, and confirm it, first, OK?
If you call me daddy in a baby voice I’m instantly pushing rope after that!
Saying dumb s**t like “ as a MAN why are you taking care of yourself?” Or “ as a MAN your house shouldn’t be so clean”. Like sorry for not being a tramp.
Seriously sexist, actually. Why should every man conform to your screwed-up notions of masculinity? How about trying a compliment, sometimes: "Wow, the place looks great!" "Hey, you're looking good today." You know, simple stuff just exactly like the stuff you like.
Yes, displaying that attitude would be a great deal of the point of the entire post.
Load More Replies...I've seen countless women say things like that on social media "as a man you should...", "as a man you need to....", "as a man I expect you to....", insert whatever you want there. Men can say similar things too "as a woman you should...", " as a woman you should know how...", "as a women you need to...". But women do it quite often, maybe without even realizing it. The expectations some have of the males in our species is just as sexist as they think some males are, really, sometimes more so.
Load More Replies...Why would any woman taking care of herself want a man with dirty finger nails or a dirty house?
No woman who wants to move in with a man eventually is saying this. Groomed and tidy like any dignified adult, thank you very much.
I've seen it on social media - "if your home/appearance/whatever is too neat, you're not manly enough." It's absurd.
Load More Replies...I personally do not know ANY woman who would complain about her man being 'too clean' or 'taking care of themselves'. Exact opposite methinks.
I have never, ever heard of a woman who complained about these things. The standard for straight men is abysmally low, a man that takes care of himself and keeps a clean house is a real catch.
Honestly, I don't associate with these types of people, but I have met women, and seen social media posts by women, saying stuff like A man taking a nap is kinda gay.", "A man wearing glasses is a little gay.", or "A man shouldn't be crying. You are a man. Suck it up. ", and honestly, even more. Yes, some sweet a very "low standard" for men, but even some of these women basically place that low standard as "being a man" and someone doing better or decorating from it being "gay" or "feminine", which is still pretty toxic and frankly, quite sexist.
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One time an ex screamed at her 2 year old nephew. Instantly unattractive
Sure both men and women do vile things,but this is about what guys dislike in women,not everyone
Right? It is bad if anyone screams at a child. It isn't somehow worse when a woman does it.
Load More Replies...One time my ex screamed at my mom...he was moving out anyway, but...don't show my mom any disrespect!
Anyone who would scream at my kid would have drawn their last breath. Cast iron frying pan upside the head!
There is a never a good reason to scream at a two year old.
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Over-the-top solipsism. That whole "I don't perceive it that way, therefore you perceiving it that way cannot be valid" mindset.
This is usually due to a lack of empathy and failure to appreciate someone else's viewpoint, nothing to do with women specifically
Yes, but this is about things being a turnoff to the guy that was asked, not necessarily required to be something specific to things women do. Many of these things can be done by men as well and still be just as much of a turnoff. I wish everyone would stop at least most of the things in here.
Load More Replies...Well there are three versions of the truth. Her side of the story, her truth, and whatever she says.
Call themselves fat in front of ppl who are fatter
I think most of the time this is just caused by body dysmorphia, which needs psychiatric attention, but it could also just be someone being an a*****e. Both need addressing but for different reasons.
I used to do this when I was younger, and it was 100% because I thought the other people there were 'better' than me in every way. In my opinion they would dress better, behave better, do better in general, regardless of whether they were bigger than me or not. It wasn't about who was fat or not. "I'm so fat" was just me saying "I disgust and hate myself and I don't know how to make it stop" out loud but with different words.
Load More Replies...My first thought is always body dysmorphia. My cousin would tell me I had a perfect body. (I was a little bit on the chubby side.) Then go on about fat she was, even though she was skinny. She was later diagnosed with an eating disorder, and it took her years of therapy to start feeling ok about her body.
You’re right, I consider it to be fishing for compliments.
Load More Replies...Especially if they’re practically an X-Ray. We used to call that fishing for a compliment.
I used to do this. Acquaintance A would comment on how they're so fat and trying to lose weight and I'd chime in about wanting to do the same. Didn't realize I was doing harm until someone called me out on it. I really did (and still do) want to lose a couple of pounds though, so it wasn't malicious on my part.
My first roommate in college was a thin size 2 and put a picture of herself in her underwear on the fridge with fatty written on it. I was a size 14 so I must've been morbidly obese in her eyes.
IDK..... I've been underweight and overweight I'm physically in an ok spot rn...... But I'm ALWAYS feeling so fat..... Can't afford to get psych help to explore the body dysmorphia from above ☝️...
I saw a cute girl on a treadmill at the gym sneeze 4 times and not attempt to cover her mouth once. Absolutely disgusted me
That's something that should be taught by parents at a very young age
* taking notes: So, if you want the creepy guy staring at you at the gym to leave you alone, sneeze without covering. Got it.
I remember the time I sneezed on the bus without warning and headbutted the handrail on the seat in front of me and an old lady behind me said "I'm not sure if I should say bless you or oh sh*t"
Again, not a thing that "women do". Like spitting in the street.
As I sit here and a co-worker hacks his lungs out ten feet away. He's always bringing the sick into the office.
Lie/do something hurtful, then play victim so you end up comforting them for what they did even tho you wanna cry Lol
The key is making them understand that they hurt you, no matter how much you don't want to, let them know they f****d up and stick to your right to feel hurt/betrayed/angry/annoyed, HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT!!
There are some serious mental illnesses, that can lead in such a behavior. For Example: Borderline Personality Disorder. Maybe she is in fact a victim...but Not of you. Maybe she was hurt and abuse during childhood and THIS Behavior saved her. So she learned how to Deal with supposed Danger. Go with her to a doctor/psychiatrist and get her some Help. She needs to know that the abuse and the violance have an End and that you will Not harm her.
Confusing confidence with being inconsiderate.
The question was essentially "guys, what turns you off?" It wasn't "name something only women do." Nobody said any of these things were exclusive to one gender.
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Probably if a woman constantly texts me what I’m doing every 30 mins. Can’t stand when they say “wyd”. That’s some high school s**t right there
texting abbreviations are fine... control freak behavior is definitely not
Wow. Just wait until you encounter your first micromanager in the office. It's going to blow your mind.
Honestly, I don't send it often, but if it's a friend, I might send a message similar once a week or something if I don't really have anything else I can think of. If I'm dating the person and we haven't messaged/talked all day, I might message, asking what they are up to. It's mostly my way of checking in, but I don't really have anything specific to talk about.
However, it's definitely not something I do a bunch. Line I said, it's usually if we haven't talked all day, and I'm mostly just checking in. It'd annoy me as well, if the person was doing that every thirty minutes though.
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Mentioning their ex constantly
If anyone does that, it straight up means they are NOT ready for another relationship.
The fact that all my exes quickly moved on and could care less about me, had unbeknownst to me, went from a curse to a blessing.
I've had a lot of these, unfortunately. But one sticks out in my mind: Every other word was "Josh". Josh Josh Josh. Showing me Pittsburgh, she made an effort to show me Josh's Squirrel Hill home. "And that's where Josh lives, and Josh blase skimpy, and Josh Josh Josh." That was it. I think old girl is a low-rent attorney now, boring everyone at the boardroom with "Josh Josh Josh". The kicker: Josh does not like women. Habeas corpus delicti corpus homosexuales. Who cares.
I think not taking accountability is the biggest one.
You’ve messed up/were rude/incorrect/whatever, but just doubling down and never apologising or admitting fault is so unattractive. Just own it and apologise like a grown up.
“I’m sorry but…” etc.
NO! "I'm sorry, but ..." Absolutely not! Once you use the word "but," everything you said prior is useless.
Be careful of the: I'm sorry, but You did......., or I'm sorry, if you didn't....., then I would of..... Or, I'm sorry, but you were the one who was.....
One for when you're in a relationship:
When you're with friends and they become distinctly less pleasant to you than when you're alone, like making fun of you and making jokes at your expense which they normally would not make. Have had it in more than one relationship.
Like... what is that about?
I can't speak for all women (mainly because I'm a man) but I had an ex that did this. Truth is that she was very insecure and overcompensated for that in social settings. I have broad shoulders so could tolerate it to a point, but would tell her if she crossed a line. It's not why we broke up.
i think they feel uncomfortable and insecure around others you are familiar with their true self, but they insecure and hide that, also project their insecurity onto you their safe person, but going so far as to give into that and hurt the person you love to make them the outsider not you is inconsiderate.
Again, this thread is not about things that ONLY women do. Simply about things that these specific men don't like when a woman does it to them in a relationship. It's the same thing with the many lists of "Things women don't like men to do" or done variation lists. It's not saying "Only men do this" it's really just asking things you don't like.
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Wipe makeup off using a bath towel
That unsettling brown stain... uggggggh
According to one of the pictures above, it's a Glasgow tan.
Load More Replies...I remember so many times when I was a kid when my siblings or I would spill something and reach for a towel to clean it and mum would yell "not the clean tea towel, get a rag!" It took longer for my siblings to learn than me (possibly because the rags were always further away, so more effort).
Load More Replies...That looks like a crime scene piece of evidence. We have makeup removing towels you can purchase just about anywhere!
Wtv it's gotta go somewhere and I do the laundry myself with bleach. I'll wipe monkey butts if I wanna.
What's wrong with that if you only use the towel once and wash it afterwards?
I think it depends if it stains, or not. There are many makeups that will end up staying the towel, so if you use just any towel for it instead of having specifically designated towels, it is kinda a d**k move.
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Casual hate, just chill why are you so upset about everything
This one is weird. My husband sometimes wonders why I'm so stressed because he has a live in the moment attitude. Unfortunately, that means that (even though I am not a natural planner or organiser) I am the one to remember birthdays, what size clothes the kids wear, where every single thing in the house is, what needs fixing, etc. It is endless. This mental load is a problem that many women have. "Just chill, why are you so upset about everything?" is probably not a helpful thing to say. Try: "You seem very stressed at the moment. Is there anything I can help with?" and really listen to the response. If she says: "Oh, it doesn't matter, I just have a lot to do", say: "Tell me three things right now that I can do for you."
My wife and I share the mental load pretty evenly. Both work, both take care of kiddos, both take care of the house. I take a bit more but it's because I know I can handle it and I don't mind being busy. Not in like a "I'm a guy I'm tough and nothing bothers me". More of like I see a path through the weeds and know what things to prioritize in what order and have learned what can fall by the wayside. She can get overwhelmed a little easier and is more sensitive to stuff so I listen to her and comfort her. Personality differences. Though I do hit a wall at some point but takes a lot
Load More Replies...I love watching true crime television shows. All cautionary tales of the short walk from casual hate to murder.
I just think we are more emotional and hormonal then men are but being up set all the time sounds like depression
always talk about themselves and never ask you anything at all so the entire thing just revolves around her, not even like how was your day or are you ok, just always about them and the attention
Some people who do this expect you to also talk about yourself without being asked.
and if you start talking they immediately interrupt you to continue talking themselves
Load More Replies...A lot of people think you will also talk about yourself if they are sharing. They purposely don't ask bc they don't want to seem nosy. I used to be like this. In my family everyone just talks. Unprompted. I tell you about my day, you tell me about your day. Took me a long time to figure out other people don't communicate this way.
I was with a guy who said i always talked about myself. Well I'm sorry but if i ask how was you day and get back "it was good" with no added details then Great! Okay conversation over i guess or it becomes the 20 questions game.
I had a friend do this to me. She was dating someone s****y and every time we hung out or talked all she did was complain about him. I'd try to steer it away with a different topic but she ALWAYS brought it back to him. I stopped wanting to talk or hang out and it almost ruined the friendship we've had since 5th grade.
I ask my husband all the time about his workday, his regular days and about how he is feeling. He never says anything, but "It was good." I still ask, but not as often.
Lie about how they feel
THIS! Nobody is telepathic and certainly can’t tell what you’re feeling, especially if you lie about it. Communication is the key to success in personal relationships- don’t undermine it
People who expect others to read their mercurial minds and “just know” what they’re feeling/what they want/what tf they’re very vaguely talking about, are in for very VERY sad and disappointing lives, because we are not psychics. You want something? Then you f*****g well open that mouth of yours and ASK! You feel bad? TELL us! And learn to CLEARLY say whateverthefuck you’re trying to say, because we don’t “just know” what vague s**t you’re talking about! We’re sick and tired of having to do all the mental heavy lifting with you, ffs. Carry you own weight from now on. (Obviously I was in an unnecessarily frustrating relationship with someone like this in the past, and it’s still a pet peeve of mine.)
Load More Replies...If I'm not ready to address things, I'll tell my husband, "I can't talk about it now but I'm feeling this. I'm still processing, though, so please be patient until I can talk."
IME, when a woman says "I'm fine" when she's clearly angry, it's because she either isn't ready to talk about it, or she's tired of having the same fight over and over again and doesn't want to have it yet again.
Been though some stuff in life. It's not worth the effort to keep up lies to a partner. At least in a long term relationship. Trust and honesty even if it's a tough thing to say makes everything so much easier. If you know what's coming out of my mouth is the truth you can trust what I am saying. If the relationship doesn't work with honesty then maybe it just won't work. 25 years with my wife and counting
Load More Replies...OR telling every lit bit about how you feel. Keep some s**t to yourself. Nobody needs to know about how you got PTSD in the war. Geez.
So, others should read *your* mind, so they precisely gauge the amount of information they should tell you. Got it.
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Cleaning my wife’s hair out of the drains grosses me out to the point where I gag. Idk why. I had no problem with other gross things. I can even clean up my dogs vomit with little to no gagging.
I do it myself, I don't expect him to. I don't let it go to the point where it blocks the drain though
Load More Replies...They make all sorts of hair-catcher things you place over the drain. Cleaning those (hey! she could do that! Like every time she showers!) is super-easy and not gag-inducing. At least not to the same degree. I feel you.
Unfortunately not all drains are the designed to accommodate hair-catchers . But I do concur that they are extremely helpful when able to be used.
Load More Replies...In my household, it's fair that I clean the drain so long as he cleans the bathroom sink after he shaves and leaves his little clipped hairs everywhere. No ones hair anywhere (exception: the cat).
Ew I do this myself because it's much easier to clean it up each time, and way less gross!
Anyone with long hair should learn to clear the drain every time they shower/bath. I always do, but equally nearly always half the hair is not mine. The mess pictured would take months or even years to accumulate to that point.
So you unscrew the screws around the edges of the drain, and then what do you use? Your wife does this every morning when getting ready for work? How long does that take her? Just curious what is expected of women these days.
Load More Replies...I always clean the shower trap in our house, but in the last 3 years, my fiance hasn't once offered to do it. It isn't just my hair in that drain 😐
I start talking about the hair all clogged up in the drain, and that I'm gonna cut my hair, to a short (man's length) hair-cu,t so that we don't have to deal with it....[I am stereotyping, but most men Love their women to have long hair - down to their butt if they had their druthers, but Hate to deal with the consequences...Pointing the finger and saying: You take So Long to shower, You are wasting water, Your conditioner is clogging the drain, Why does it take you So Long to get ready?] ....I'm dating myself...
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Whenever i get called a “Sassy man” Whenever i talk about my feelings and actually wanting a woman who puts in emotional work like i do? Like sorry if my only options aren’t “fun boyfriend”, “Horndog”, and working 12 hours
This picture is very confusing to me. Has she just emerged from the sea? If so, why the watch? Is her neck cold? Then why the low-cut style? Is her head cold but her shoulders are warm? I just need to know!
Funny how the people hating on the post are the same who enjoy posts that list all things wrong with men.... Yes women can be awful too, they are not all Queens and heroins. (From a woman)
Or heroines. Heroin is a drug and it's no lady.
Load More Replies...articles about men's issues or mens issues in general and a woman trying completely invalidate them because women have it worse nobody says they don't but issues that one person has doesnt cancel out others issues
Your argument is that men don't invalidate women online? Not saying it's right either way but...really?
Load More Replies...Nobody mentioned the "dropping hints instead of just saying what you want and then getting mad when her partner doesn´t get it?"
I really don't like women who aren't my wife. If you're not my wife, total turn off.
How about cute animal pics? I want to see all the animals
Load More Replies...Also : a date telling me that my ex ''won'' because we tried our best to get separated in a decent way, without hurting each other and protecting the children as more as possible, taking the best decisions possible in their interest,when we realised that we were not in love, and that it was better to take our own roads before creating stupid conflicts, and trying to build a healthy father/mother of two relation. Sorry, but I feel no one ''wins'' a séparation, especially when children are involved in the middle of that
EDIT ADD women who don't fully read titles... LOL ( did not notice it was a men's poll. makes more sense) Only part I really agree with is the baby talk. the rest seem to be a problem with both genders. As a woman, I do have to say that when a woman acts "helpless" it irritates the fluck out of me. Being ignorant is not cute, admit you don't know how to do xyz and learn like an adult.
Funny how there wasn't such a controversy, when the male version of this article, came out...yesterday/day before. :D
Load More Replies...Why? It’s not for you. It’s something for someone to enjoy on themselves.
Load More Replies...I feel like a lot of these generally applied to everyone but a few I definitely I agreed with that were directed at women. Like the whole baby talk thing is actually just weird.
Funny how the people hating on the post are the same who enjoy posts that list all things wrong with men.... Yes women can be awful too, they are not all Queens and heroins. (From a woman)
Or heroines. Heroin is a drug and it's no lady.
Load More Replies...articles about men's issues or mens issues in general and a woman trying completely invalidate them because women have it worse nobody says they don't but issues that one person has doesnt cancel out others issues
Your argument is that men don't invalidate women online? Not saying it's right either way but...really?
Load More Replies...Nobody mentioned the "dropping hints instead of just saying what you want and then getting mad when her partner doesn´t get it?"
I really don't like women who aren't my wife. If you're not my wife, total turn off.
How about cute animal pics? I want to see all the animals
Load More Replies...Also : a date telling me that my ex ''won'' because we tried our best to get separated in a decent way, without hurting each other and protecting the children as more as possible, taking the best decisions possible in their interest,when we realised that we were not in love, and that it was better to take our own roads before creating stupid conflicts, and trying to build a healthy father/mother of two relation. Sorry, but I feel no one ''wins'' a séparation, especially when children are involved in the middle of that
EDIT ADD women who don't fully read titles... LOL ( did not notice it was a men's poll. makes more sense) Only part I really agree with is the baby talk. the rest seem to be a problem with both genders. As a woman, I do have to say that when a woman acts "helpless" it irritates the fluck out of me. Being ignorant is not cute, admit you don't know how to do xyz and learn like an adult.
Funny how there wasn't such a controversy, when the male version of this article, came out...yesterday/day before. :D
Load More Replies...Why? It’s not for you. It’s something for someone to enjoy on themselves.
Load More Replies...I feel like a lot of these generally applied to everyone but a few I definitely I agreed with that were directed at women. Like the whole baby talk thing is actually just weird.
