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“I Don’t Want To Disappoint Dad”: Woman Finds Out Why Her Son Didn’t Eat Cake At His Birthday, Says It’s A Wake-Up Call
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“I Don’t Want To Disappoint Dad”: Woman Finds Out Why Her Son Didn’t Eat Cake At His Birthday, Says It’s A Wake-Up Call

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Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear frieeeeend, happy birthday to you! Now blow out the candles, make a wish, and cut yourself a slice of that delicious cake!

The cake is arguably one of the best parts of celebrating a birthday. The cherry on top of spending your special day surrounded by loved ones is getting to enjoy your favorite sweet treat and sharing a slice of that deliciousness with all of your friends and family members. Everybody loves a great birthday cake, but especially for kids, it’s usually one of the highlights of the occasion.

So when one 11-year-old boy recently opted not to eat his birthday cake for fear of disappointing his father, his mom became extremely concerned. Below, you’ll find a story that was recently shared on the True Off My Chest subreddit by a mother who is worried about how her husband has affected her son’s relationship with food.

Keep reading to also find some of the responses from concerned readers, as well as an interview with Registered Dietician Kinga Balogh, of JM Nutrition, and then if you’re interested in reading another Bored Panda article discussing the difficult topic of eating disorders, we recommend reading this story next.

After her 11-year-old son deprived himself of birthday cake as to not disappoint his father, this mom became concerned that her husband’s habits were causing harm

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Everyone deserves to enjoy a slice of cake (or two!) on their birthday. In fact, everyone deserves to enjoy a slice of cake whenever they like. Sure, it might not be ideal to eat cake every single day, but when the mood strikes or you’re celebrating a special occasion, there is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying some cake (or ice cream or pizza or whatever else you prefer). Demonizing certain foods or attaching guilt to them only causes harm and sucks all of the joy out of eating them in the first place, and especially with young and impressionable children, adults should be very mindful of how they talk about food. 

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To gain more insight on this topic we reached out to JM Nutrition‘s Registered Dietician, Kinga Balogh, who specializes in nutritional counseling for eating disorders and disordered eating. First, we asked Kinga if being scared to eat certain foods like this is a sign of a potential eating disorder. “Developing a hierarchy of what foods are safe, unsafe or outright distressing is a sign of disordered eating behaviors, particularly if surfacing in childhood,” she told Bored Panda. “Often, kids internalize messages they hear from grown-ups or peers around what constitute healthy food choices. The narrower the repertoire of safe foods becomes, the more this can be deemed as a red flag.”

“I often encounter families that hold very strong values around food and eating habits, with perfectionistic tendencies and rigid food rules that sadly do not translate to holistic health outcomes in the long run,” Kinga shared. “To help reduce family dynamics triggering disordered eating patterns in kids, I apply a family-based approach to possibly rewrite and reframe inadvertently harmful messaging around certain foods by normalizing all foods. The goal is to allow children to feel relaxed and be matter of fact around consuming all kinds of foods in the context of structured and consistent family meal and snack times.”

“Families often categorize high-fat, high-sugar, and relatively low-nutrient foods, such as sweets, chips and sodas ‘forbidden’ and often limit children’s access to these choices. Studies, however, show that children whose ‘forbidden’ food intake is restricted, often eat more of them when they get a chance and tend to gain more weight during adolescence as a result,” Kinga explained. “Therefore, aiming for nourishing our family through balance and variety, where all foods fit, proves to be a more helpful approach.”

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We were also curious if it’s common for children this young, only 11-years-old, to develop disordered eating habits. “Disordered eating symptoms can manifest at a surprisingly young age,” Kinga noted. “Children as young as 5 years of age can be diagnosed with ARFID (Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder). This condition is characterized by extreme pickiness in choosing foods, anxiety when presented with ‘feared foods’, failure to gain weight based on growth charts, lack of appetite, and disturbed feeding patterns (such as difficulty chewing foods, frequent vomiting or gagging when exposed to certain foods). Unlike other eating disorders such as with anorexia or bulimia, kids with ARFID do not have a distorted body image or body image dissatisfaction.”

Kinga also shared that feeding challenges are often associated with other conditions, such as autism spectrum disorder (ASD), attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive-compulsive disorders (OCD). “A mental health professional can be key in mapping out eating disorders and other mental health challenges in kids,” she told Bored Panda.

“Anorexia diagnosis usually peaks at 13-14 years and again at 18 years for boys. Being scared of eating certain foods is a sign of having rigidity and restrictive tendencies suggesting a desire to control body weight/shape/size characteristic of anorexia. A comprehensive medical, psychological and nutritional evaluation is necessary to arrive to a diagnosis; isolated symptoms are insufficient to give a definitive answer,” Kinga told Bored Panda.

“Making decisions about food is the first independent skill we give our youngsters- breast or formula-fed infants begin to self-regulate how much they are going to take in,” she continued. “Toddlers, with the explosion of their language skills will ideally include a gradually broadening variety of foods to satisfy their senses, nourish their bodies and grow optimally as observed on growth charts by health care professionals. Feeding challenges, such as lack of appetite, picky eating and consequently failure to gain weight in an age-appropriate pattern should alert caregivers to seek the attention of a medical and/or nutritional professional for guidance.”

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We also asked Kinga if parents’ eating habits always have an impact on their children’s eating habits. “One cannot say that family eating habits will be fully adopted by the youngsters, however, we know from human behavioral sciences, that little ones learn behaviors by mimicking that of their parents,” she told Bored Panda. “Furthermore, kids internalize a lot of the messaging around food as well. If, for example, a family member is on a diet, restricts certain foods, and eats differently at mealtimes than the rest of the family, kids pick up on those scenarios quickly. As kids grown, particularly by their teenage years, peer interactions and social media exposure begin to outweigh family influences. Yet, the seed to eating habits is often planted in early childhood.”

“Having a weight- and appearance-centric upbringing certainly alerts kids to focus their attention on diet, exercise, and appearances in a more accentuated way,” Kinga added. “This can then predispose disordered eating, body dissatisfaction and poor self-esteem to name a few adverse effects.”

And when it comes to helping children in a similar situation mend their relationship with food, Kinga says, “Coming from a place of compassion and empathy is very important as parents engage their kids in an open dialogue about the possible signs of an eating disorder. Affected individuals often have a combination of fear, anxiety, shame and flawed beliefs about food and their bodies that make dialogue on the topic very challenging. Asking open-ended questions is an excellent first step. Asking, ‘How would you describe what you’re going through?’ is a good first step. Explicitly stating observations about changing eating habits is also instrumental. Parents can state the following: ‘I’ve noticed you seem to avoid certain foods lately. I am concerned that you may not get an adequate amount of nutrition.'”

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Kinga also shared the following steps that parents can use to help their children: easing off on food rules at home- normalizing all foods, with emphasis on nutritious options for most meals; limiting comments on appearances- emphasize personal attributes more often; modeling body acceptance and intuitive eating patterns (eating when hungry, stopping when full); rewarding behavior and achievement with non-food options, such as playing board games, going on an adventure, learning a new skill etc.; demonstrating dedication to meal preparation and enjoyment of family meals in a peaceful atmosphere, limiting children’s exposure to dieting behaviors at home – as this is a huge trigger for the onset of eating disorders in children; striving to ensure regular family meals.

“When parents witness persistent and worsening eating habits, coupled with changes in mood, socializing habits and academic or athletic performance, it is imperative to seek professional help,” Kinga told Bored Panda. “Getting an early diagnosis, being connected with the optimal care providers specializing in eating disorders and promptly stepping on the road to recovery, guarantees quicker recovery and minimizes suffering of the child and the family unit. Also, getting timely treatment can reduce the risk of health complications, such as worsening mental health status, heart disease, digestive ailments, memory issues, anemia and lowered immunity, just to name a few.”

While we cannot diagnose this father or his son with any eating disorders with the little information we know, there is no question that the risks of developing one are present. And recovering from an eating disorder is a long and arduous process that no one would wish on their loved ones, especially their children. It’s best to nip any disordered eating habits in the bud to save this child a possible lifetime of struggles. I hope that his mom intervenes now, and by his twelfth birthday, he’s eating a slice of cake without a second thought. We would love to hear your thoughts on this situation in the comments below, pandas, and if you’re interested in reading another article discussing the dangers of eating disorders, look no further than right here

Readers echoed the mom’s concerns, expressing that it might be wise to consult an eating disorder specialist before this behavior escalates

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Trillian
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This goes deeper than "just" the food or fitness issue. Kids are their own people, not a parent's "mini-me". They both need help here, that sounds really toxic.

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Helen Bennett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree, this thoroughly disturbing post about food sounds like just the tip of an iceberg.

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N Miller
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know everyone's mentioning the food (because it's the point of the story) but the whole "mini-me" thing is what breaks my heart more. What happens if the son decides to like comics that father doesn't. Or music (because musical trends change - is the kid going to be stuck liking early 2000's pop because that's what dad grew up liking *exclusively*?). What happens if the son discovers they are *gasp* not the same heterotypical alignment as their father? What happens when the son TURNS OUT TO HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE PERSONALITY OF THEIR OWN

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Nichole Harris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To back this up... Please don't live vicariously through your children..... they're people for love's sake

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Ches Yamada
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The stupid thing about these types of parents is they think they're controlling the child. Guess what? My family told me I was fat when I wasn't, bullied me about food all the time. I have a serious binge eating disorder now and am morbidly obese. I realized they only seemed to like me more when I was "thin" (I lost weight several times along the way), and that only makes it worse.

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morticia_b85
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have family who only treat you as human if you're thin. As soon as you put on weight it's like you're the scum of the earth. And like you I have B.E.D aswell. Putting people down about how fat or skin they are just leads to self loathing and E.D's. I hope you're doing better and don't have to deal with that toxicity as much now. Weight doesn't define you. We are all perfect in our own way. What one person finds imperfect another finds perfect.

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Heather W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be developing a resistance to sex with this man. "What's the matter? We've had sex before. You're good for now."

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Madeline Edgar-Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the mother of a daughter recovering from anorexia, please, please stop this now. In therapy at 18, my daughter admitted that her thinking started after a comment made by her grandfather when she was 8! She had heart and liver failure and was bed bound for two months. I have had 18 months of begging her to eat so she literally wouldn't die. She is fully nourished now and at a healthy weight but she still struggles and all talk of calories, dieting etc is banned in our house.

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Pepe Silvia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't want to assume anything about your situation, and I was never allowed to go to therapy for this so I don't know if my methods are correct, but I found that when I was a teenage boy suffering from bulimia and my parents started trying to "help" by banning diet talk and calorie counting, I just ended up getting more closed-off because I felt embarrassed that what i was doing was so bad it became a taboo subject. I'd recommend discussing these things if they come up naturally or if she needs to vent, and figuring out a way to take her feelings into account without obsessing. These emotions can often build up if you're just taught to ignore them, and that's never good.

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Becky Samuel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the father needs help just as much as the son. Orthorexia is just as much of an eating disorder as the more well-known anorexia and bulimia.

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Rens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter is a type 1 diabetic and has been since just before her 6th birthday; every year for her birthday she had cake. I had a special recipe pz used various ingredients to make a low GI cake. She also had a party with lots of nice things to eat we just had more savoury things like chicken skewers and cheese and tomato skewers etc. Everyone should have cake on their birthday!

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Kumkum Wada
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom, it's your job to advocate your son. Do it now, before it's too late to rectify. He is still 11 years old, need nutrients to grow, and sometimes need simple carbohydrate if he is so active. Contact school nurse or professional nutritionist to regulate, not just blatant restricting him from eating something that his father forbade. Educate yourself, and your son first about balanced dietary program according to his age.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children are not you. You are not your parents, right? (I hope?) Dad is toxic-level control freaky here. Send counselor to these people, fast. Please. I had a dad who pulled stuff like that. You get fd up.

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Sparkle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The moment any of my children say they aren't allowed to have anything or eat certain things because they don't want to disappoint *certain person* (especially on their own birthday), *certain person* will be packing their bags (or I'll throw all their s**t out on the lawn for them) - but they will be out of my house immediately. I went through some abusive things growing up and I swore no one would take my kids' childhoods from them. Lifetime had a movie that was about a mother who wouldn't allow her "overweight" oldest daughter eat like she did her youngest, and so she developed an eating disorder and a drug problem when she was older. I also witnessed a 6-year-old say she didn't want dinner because her mom told her she'd "get fat". Nothing breaks my heart faster than hearing a child worry about things that they shouldn't be worrying about. Exercise is great! It's a great habit to get into while you're young, but you gotta have some cake at times, too!

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Dodo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've always struggled with my weight, my mother took me to Weight Watchers when I was 12 years old. Sometimes I wonder if that contributed to my little sister's anorexia, wanting to make sure she didn't look/get treated like me.

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Looks like an Angel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of my earliest memories are my Mom making a FULL Thanksgiving dinner, Turkey, stuffing, potatoes, carrots, gravy, pies etc and while everyone was sitting down eating dinner, my Mom would be in the kitchen eating a salad. She would not come to the table, because she didn't want to be "tempted by all of those bad foods." Guess who has 3 daughters and ALL 3 daughters have disordered eating.

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Joyce Monty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband is bullying by example and pressure. Not everyone is dedicated to extreme fitness. He needs to understand the inflexible expectations he's pushing on your pre-teen is dangerous.You are the mom: put your foot down.

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El Dee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one thinks of men having eating disorders but I used to work with one. Never saw him eat - EVER. He was sporty and well known in the local area for his sport. He constantly looked ill and eventually got treatment. I don't think he'd be here if he hadn't..

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Sue
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This can't be the first time she noticed this, just the saddest. People like his dad disgust me. If I hadn't starved myself when I was younger, I probably wouldn't have gained later. I would lose 10 & gain 20 because I felt deprived. One piece of cake will not ruin your body. A whole cake won't help, but a lot of people who deny themselves one piece of cake will later binge on a whole cake. I kind of wonder if dad just has dull taste buds or if he binges while away from his family.

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Hope Tirendi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a parent tries to live through their child that is a sickness that needs to be amputated from the child. Sorry your hubby was the fat kid and got picked on but you need to cut that toxicity out of your children's lives before its too late.

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Lizzie Lola
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom was anorexic with occasional bulimia, and obsessed with working out. I've only been heavy while or after pregnant (in fact, most of my life I was underweight). When I got married at 3 months pregnant, her obsession was so deep she ordered my dress (with a cinched bodice!) in 2 sizes, the correct one, and one smaller that she INSISTED on trying to cramp me into the smaller one. I couldn't get it over my hips OR boobs. She was FURIOUS, especially after I asked if she intended to put a big red number size on it for the wedding, cause WHO'S GONNA KNOW?! She died in 2011 and I can STILL hear her voice in my head when I go to eat ice cream, and refuse to own a human scale. (I bake and use a food scale for ingredients) PLEASE don't do this to your kids.

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JOHN DOE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dumb. I hate these post were someone acts like they have no control. Grow up and like a person who cares about their kids and not some bystander beholden to some idiot. She is as responsible as hubby for the disappoinment. Get off Reddit and start protecting your children.

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Janet Howe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This kid will have real issues as he gets to his teen years if dad doesn't stop "inflicting" his controlling attitudes of health and nutrition on his son. Dad needs counseling.

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Scrolling Panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I absolutely second the "therapy or divorce" stance. Lay it out for your husband in those simple terms after you've set up family therapy appointments, and individual therapy for your son. Tell the husband he is going and he will be talking to a therapist himself or he will be removed from his son's life. He is going to kill that boy. Maybe not with his hands, but with his words. He is doing irreparable harm and you must bring it to a stop and begin damage control immediately to salvage your child's self esteem, self worth, and physical and mental health. Bring your son's doctor in on this right away too!

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Marie Heuberger
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor kid. What a horribly arrogant and abusive father! What happens when he disappoints dad? Are we sure there is no physical abuse as well?

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Hedgielover98
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At 11, my dad was picking a fight with my mom and told her, about me "I don't want a PIG for a daughter" 30 plus years later I still hear it in my head and I have issues with food

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Marilyn Russell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is so sad. I hope they get into family counseling, stop this cycle and help this poor child before he develops an eating disorder, and before his childhood is over so he can actually enjoy it. Is the father trying to create a version of himself? It’s just so odd.

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Elisabeth Clark
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, it seems this father is mistreating both of his children. With his oldest son he is trying to make him into a copy of himself. However, at the same time he is putting into his younger son that he could never be as good as he is so don't even bother. Children are not copies of their parents, they are their own person. It seems that this father needs some counseling to be able to deal with his children in a more healthy and nurturing way. From the way the mother describes the incident the father may have had some difficulties in his life when he was a child. So, instead of facing his problems he decides to try to make a more perfect version of himself. I hope this family can get the help they need soon before this situation goes down hill with no return. I've seen parents like this before and sadly their children don't grow up to love them instead the children grow up to resent them.

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Lacia Lew
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like the whole family needs therapy. Food issues is just the tip of the iceberg here. Mom should've been alarmed when dad asked son to be "mini-me".

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Allan Breum
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sound like the dad has an eating disorder himself. I mean, if he doesn't even acknowledge the concept and importance of cheatdays, he probably has a warped relationship with food himself.

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Candra Gabel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This child is definitely in very real danger. Eating disorders are deadly. They lead to lifelong physical, and mental illness, that will plague his life, and his own future family/kids. This behavior is abusive. Eating disorders are self-harm. They're often accompanied by suicidal thoughts/actions throughout his life. This kid needs help. So does the husband. If he is unwilling to get help for himself, then you need to remove the child from that environment. The safety of your child is well worth going through a divorce over. This is about saving that child's life. Yes. His LIFE is in danger. This is not an exaggeration. This is not a drill. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Parenting is about sacrifice.

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CC
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many red flags here. Yes, we have children who emulate us, or take alot of our traits. That does not mean they are our clone. Not having birthday cake??? Um, this is a toxic toxic relationship and someone needs to step up and step in. Dad is doing something to this kid and it's not good. Sounds like a gaslighting control freak to me

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Spalding Monn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is anyone else tired of hearing about how stupid parents are doing do much harm to their children. Mom, drop that dead wood. This posting is focused on your son. How many times has your beautiful husband made similar comments to you, your family members or other children. Your husband is repulsive.

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michele mbennett1010@att.net
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad/ husband is a controlling egotistical idiot. Mom needs to protect the child from this behavior. He is creating a ticking time bomb. Wake up Dad, you don't own this child. Your job as a parent is to nurture and protect this little human and ensure he/ she will be successful as a well rounded adult, not a distorted copy of yourself.

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A Random Anvil
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keto cake exists. If hubs was so upset about a little cake on his birthday (literally once a year!), Why didn't he make a "healthier"version? Honestly though, why would you not let your KID celebrate their day?

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S. M. Dougherty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Husband/dad is a narcissistic a*s. Sounds like his love is conditional and self serving. Maybe he should be a childless divorcee. Just a thought.

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Randy Gordon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like that have no business having children. I shouldn't be so harsh, what kind of person does these things? It is mental abuse

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Rosalie Dann
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad is a Durr. He could have told his son that's it's fine to have a treat now and then, especially on his birthday. Just don't eat "treat foods" everyday.

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funky munky
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my husband said that I'd tell him to leave the party without hesitation

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Gozer LeGozerian
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First red flag: doing anything religiously. Second: naming your child after yourself. Third: not seeing the problems until 11 years later

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Eliza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a question: Is your husband this way with you? He sounds like a manipulative person.

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Jake Kerlin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Initially I thought it couldn't be that bad considering the alternative and how common horrendous eating habits are among western families, but then I read how the father responded and began thinking about the long term implications and how that could be equally if not more damaging for the kid and his health. This dude needs to chill out on trying to live vicariously through his child and let him develop more independently. Also try working in the occasional "cheat day" for Christ's sake, it's not gonna kill ya my guy. The key is moderation as it is with most things... What's really screwed up here too is the fact that this kid probably has a strong foundation for healthy eating habits and exercise, but the father's selfish agenda has forced it to such an extreme that it's become unhealthy and likely caused the child to start harboring some resentment towards his father and lifestyle which will end up backfiring catastrophically in a couple years. Not to mention the possible ED...

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Scrolling Panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In addition to my previous comment I must say this. OP did the right thing. She observed the problem, identified the root, attempted to address it at the source, and then reached out (to the wider world) for support and assistance. Those are all very good first steps. The next steps to take care a continuance of what you've already done. This time around, reach out to professionals because they have more leverage, more experience, and more resources to tackle this problem that is already spiraling out of control. You are in the early stages of spiral, but don't mistake this for the beginning, because you are well down the path already and you have a lot to do to bring this under control and to rebuild what your son had taken from him. It will take time and dedication and support from specialists and family, but you can work through this. It is imperative that the father be either brought on board or removed from the situation. The first is preferable, but the second may be necessary.

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Nichole Harris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok... positives.... I'm Grateful your hubby has guidelines for health.... I'm also grateful he's extended this to y'alls kids..... But even the most stringent diets have cheat days it's his birthday for the love of bacon chill

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crowspectre 2.0 (he/they)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol my mom's like this and idk how to tell her that it's not that I'm lazy and out of shape it's that I barely eat anything and therefore can't build muscle

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Livingwithcfs
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This father is psychologically abusing his son. His son is scared to upset his father. At 11 the damage is already set and even with therapy and counseling he is likely to have life long issues with food, body image and self confidence. This will affect his future relationships as well as his life now.

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Grandmother always commented on my weight. I was a chubby kid and no one ever stood up for me because she was an evil dragon. While the rest of the family were eating roast beef with mashed potatoes and gravy, I got a salad - which was basically a plate full of lettuce and a tomato slice. I was about 12 when I informed my Mother I would not be attending these family dinners anymore. I expected an argument, but she was fine with it (I think she felt guilty that she couldn't stand up to her mother). I didn't develop any weird eating habits, as I'd prefer an extra 10 pounds to being a psychotic food weigher, but I did develop a pure hatred of my Grandmother.

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Shoshana Sherrington
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the current timeline son eventually breaks and gorges himself until he is morbidly obese and loses any affection from father, gets steadily more depressed until committing suicide and dad will never blame himself. Get help now before it's too late

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Skorm Carter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when you have a child while you're still a child. Your husband is a total a*s. I wonder how old he is. I bet he is also the type that skips his legs lol.

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Trillian
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This goes deeper than "just" the food or fitness issue. Kids are their own people, not a parent's "mini-me". They both need help here, that sounds really toxic.

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Helen Bennett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree, this thoroughly disturbing post about food sounds like just the tip of an iceberg.

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N Miller
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know everyone's mentioning the food (because it's the point of the story) but the whole "mini-me" thing is what breaks my heart more. What happens if the son decides to like comics that father doesn't. Or music (because musical trends change - is the kid going to be stuck liking early 2000's pop because that's what dad grew up liking *exclusively*?). What happens if the son discovers they are *gasp* not the same heterotypical alignment as their father? What happens when the son TURNS OUT TO HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE PERSONALITY OF THEIR OWN

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Nichole Harris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To back this up... Please don't live vicariously through your children..... they're people for love's sake

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Ches Yamada
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The stupid thing about these types of parents is they think they're controlling the child. Guess what? My family told me I was fat when I wasn't, bullied me about food all the time. I have a serious binge eating disorder now and am morbidly obese. I realized they only seemed to like me more when I was "thin" (I lost weight several times along the way), and that only makes it worse.

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morticia_b85
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have family who only treat you as human if you're thin. As soon as you put on weight it's like you're the scum of the earth. And like you I have B.E.D aswell. Putting people down about how fat or skin they are just leads to self loathing and E.D's. I hope you're doing better and don't have to deal with that toxicity as much now. Weight doesn't define you. We are all perfect in our own way. What one person finds imperfect another finds perfect.

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Heather W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be developing a resistance to sex with this man. "What's the matter? We've had sex before. You're good for now."

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Madeline Edgar-Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the mother of a daughter recovering from anorexia, please, please stop this now. In therapy at 18, my daughter admitted that her thinking started after a comment made by her grandfather when she was 8! She had heart and liver failure and was bed bound for two months. I have had 18 months of begging her to eat so she literally wouldn't die. She is fully nourished now and at a healthy weight but she still struggles and all talk of calories, dieting etc is banned in our house.

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Pepe Silvia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't want to assume anything about your situation, and I was never allowed to go to therapy for this so I don't know if my methods are correct, but I found that when I was a teenage boy suffering from bulimia and my parents started trying to "help" by banning diet talk and calorie counting, I just ended up getting more closed-off because I felt embarrassed that what i was doing was so bad it became a taboo subject. I'd recommend discussing these things if they come up naturally or if she needs to vent, and figuring out a way to take her feelings into account without obsessing. These emotions can often build up if you're just taught to ignore them, and that's never good.

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Becky Samuel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the father needs help just as much as the son. Orthorexia is just as much of an eating disorder as the more well-known anorexia and bulimia.

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Rens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter is a type 1 diabetic and has been since just before her 6th birthday; every year for her birthday she had cake. I had a special recipe pz used various ingredients to make a low GI cake. She also had a party with lots of nice things to eat we just had more savoury things like chicken skewers and cheese and tomato skewers etc. Everyone should have cake on their birthday!

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Kumkum Wada
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mom, it's your job to advocate your son. Do it now, before it's too late to rectify. He is still 11 years old, need nutrients to grow, and sometimes need simple carbohydrate if he is so active. Contact school nurse or professional nutritionist to regulate, not just blatant restricting him from eating something that his father forbade. Educate yourself, and your son first about balanced dietary program according to his age.

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Children are not you. You are not your parents, right? (I hope?) Dad is toxic-level control freaky here. Send counselor to these people, fast. Please. I had a dad who pulled stuff like that. You get fd up.

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Sparkle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The moment any of my children say they aren't allowed to have anything or eat certain things because they don't want to disappoint *certain person* (especially on their own birthday), *certain person* will be packing their bags (or I'll throw all their s**t out on the lawn for them) - but they will be out of my house immediately. I went through some abusive things growing up and I swore no one would take my kids' childhoods from them. Lifetime had a movie that was about a mother who wouldn't allow her "overweight" oldest daughter eat like she did her youngest, and so she developed an eating disorder and a drug problem when she was older. I also witnessed a 6-year-old say she didn't want dinner because her mom told her she'd "get fat". Nothing breaks my heart faster than hearing a child worry about things that they shouldn't be worrying about. Exercise is great! It's a great habit to get into while you're young, but you gotta have some cake at times, too!

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Dodo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've always struggled with my weight, my mother took me to Weight Watchers when I was 12 years old. Sometimes I wonder if that contributed to my little sister's anorexia, wanting to make sure she didn't look/get treated like me.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of my earliest memories are my Mom making a FULL Thanksgiving dinner, Turkey, stuffing, potatoes, carrots, gravy, pies etc and while everyone was sitting down eating dinner, my Mom would be in the kitchen eating a salad. She would not come to the table, because she didn't want to be "tempted by all of those bad foods." Guess who has 3 daughters and ALL 3 daughters have disordered eating.

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Joyce Monty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your husband is bullying by example and pressure. Not everyone is dedicated to extreme fitness. He needs to understand the inflexible expectations he's pushing on your pre-teen is dangerous.You are the mom: put your foot down.

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El Dee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one thinks of men having eating disorders but I used to work with one. Never saw him eat - EVER. He was sporty and well known in the local area for his sport. He constantly looked ill and eventually got treatment. I don't think he'd be here if he hadn't..

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Sue
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This can't be the first time she noticed this, just the saddest. People like his dad disgust me. If I hadn't starved myself when I was younger, I probably wouldn't have gained later. I would lose 10 & gain 20 because I felt deprived. One piece of cake will not ruin your body. A whole cake won't help, but a lot of people who deny themselves one piece of cake will later binge on a whole cake. I kind of wonder if dad just has dull taste buds or if he binges while away from his family.

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Hope Tirendi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a parent tries to live through their child that is a sickness that needs to be amputated from the child. Sorry your hubby was the fat kid and got picked on but you need to cut that toxicity out of your children's lives before its too late.

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Lizzie Lola
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom was anorexic with occasional bulimia, and obsessed with working out. I've only been heavy while or after pregnant (in fact, most of my life I was underweight). When I got married at 3 months pregnant, her obsession was so deep she ordered my dress (with a cinched bodice!) in 2 sizes, the correct one, and one smaller that she INSISTED on trying to cramp me into the smaller one. I couldn't get it over my hips OR boobs. She was FURIOUS, especially after I asked if she intended to put a big red number size on it for the wedding, cause WHO'S GONNA KNOW?! She died in 2011 and I can STILL hear her voice in my head when I go to eat ice cream, and refuse to own a human scale. (I bake and use a food scale for ingredients) PLEASE don't do this to your kids.

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JOHN DOE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dumb. I hate these post were someone acts like they have no control. Grow up and like a person who cares about their kids and not some bystander beholden to some idiot. She is as responsible as hubby for the disappoinment. Get off Reddit and start protecting your children.

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Janet Howe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This kid will have real issues as he gets to his teen years if dad doesn't stop "inflicting" his controlling attitudes of health and nutrition on his son. Dad needs counseling.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I absolutely second the "therapy or divorce" stance. Lay it out for your husband in those simple terms after you've set up family therapy appointments, and individual therapy for your son. Tell the husband he is going and he will be talking to a therapist himself or he will be removed from his son's life. He is going to kill that boy. Maybe not with his hands, but with his words. He is doing irreparable harm and you must bring it to a stop and begin damage control immediately to salvage your child's self esteem, self worth, and physical and mental health. Bring your son's doctor in on this right away too!

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Marie Heuberger
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor kid. What a horribly arrogant and abusive father! What happens when he disappoints dad? Are we sure there is no physical abuse as well?

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Hedgielover98
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At 11, my dad was picking a fight with my mom and told her, about me "I don't want a PIG for a daughter" 30 plus years later I still hear it in my head and I have issues with food

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Marilyn Russell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is so sad. I hope they get into family counseling, stop this cycle and help this poor child before he develops an eating disorder, and before his childhood is over so he can actually enjoy it. Is the father trying to create a version of himself? It’s just so odd.

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Elisabeth Clark
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, it seems this father is mistreating both of his children. With his oldest son he is trying to make him into a copy of himself. However, at the same time he is putting into his younger son that he could never be as good as he is so don't even bother. Children are not copies of their parents, they are their own person. It seems that this father needs some counseling to be able to deal with his children in a more healthy and nurturing way. From the way the mother describes the incident the father may have had some difficulties in his life when he was a child. So, instead of facing his problems he decides to try to make a more perfect version of himself. I hope this family can get the help they need soon before this situation goes down hill with no return. I've seen parents like this before and sadly their children don't grow up to love them instead the children grow up to resent them.

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Lacia Lew
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like the whole family needs therapy. Food issues is just the tip of the iceberg here. Mom should've been alarmed when dad asked son to be "mini-me".

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Allan Breum
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sound like the dad has an eating disorder himself. I mean, if he doesn't even acknowledge the concept and importance of cheatdays, he probably has a warped relationship with food himself.

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Candra Gabel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This child is definitely in very real danger. Eating disorders are deadly. They lead to lifelong physical, and mental illness, that will plague his life, and his own future family/kids. This behavior is abusive. Eating disorders are self-harm. They're often accompanied by suicidal thoughts/actions throughout his life. This kid needs help. So does the husband. If he is unwilling to get help for himself, then you need to remove the child from that environment. The safety of your child is well worth going through a divorce over. This is about saving that child's life. Yes. His LIFE is in danger. This is not an exaggeration. This is not a drill. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Parenting is about sacrifice.

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CC
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many red flags here. Yes, we have children who emulate us, or take alot of our traits. That does not mean they are our clone. Not having birthday cake??? Um, this is a toxic toxic relationship and someone needs to step up and step in. Dad is doing something to this kid and it's not good. Sounds like a gaslighting control freak to me

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Spalding Monn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is anyone else tired of hearing about how stupid parents are doing do much harm to their children. Mom, drop that dead wood. This posting is focused on your son. How many times has your beautiful husband made similar comments to you, your family members or other children. Your husband is repulsive.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad/ husband is a controlling egotistical idiot. Mom needs to protect the child from this behavior. He is creating a ticking time bomb. Wake up Dad, you don't own this child. Your job as a parent is to nurture and protect this little human and ensure he/ she will be successful as a well rounded adult, not a distorted copy of yourself.

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A Random Anvil
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keto cake exists. If hubs was so upset about a little cake on his birthday (literally once a year!), Why didn't he make a "healthier"version? Honestly though, why would you not let your KID celebrate their day?

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S. M. Dougherty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Husband/dad is a narcissistic a*s. Sounds like his love is conditional and self serving. Maybe he should be a childless divorcee. Just a thought.

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Randy Gordon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like that have no business having children. I shouldn't be so harsh, what kind of person does these things? It is mental abuse

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Rosalie Dann
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dad is a Durr. He could have told his son that's it's fine to have a treat now and then, especially on his birthday. Just don't eat "treat foods" everyday.

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funky munky
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If my husband said that I'd tell him to leave the party without hesitation

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Gozer LeGozerian
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First red flag: doing anything religiously. Second: naming your child after yourself. Third: not seeing the problems until 11 years later

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Eliza
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a question: Is your husband this way with you? He sounds like a manipulative person.

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Jake Kerlin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Initially I thought it couldn't be that bad considering the alternative and how common horrendous eating habits are among western families, but then I read how the father responded and began thinking about the long term implications and how that could be equally if not more damaging for the kid and his health. This dude needs to chill out on trying to live vicariously through his child and let him develop more independently. Also try working in the occasional "cheat day" for Christ's sake, it's not gonna kill ya my guy. The key is moderation as it is with most things... What's really screwed up here too is the fact that this kid probably has a strong foundation for healthy eating habits and exercise, but the father's selfish agenda has forced it to such an extreme that it's become unhealthy and likely caused the child to start harboring some resentment towards his father and lifestyle which will end up backfiring catastrophically in a couple years. Not to mention the possible ED...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In addition to my previous comment I must say this. OP did the right thing. She observed the problem, identified the root, attempted to address it at the source, and then reached out (to the wider world) for support and assistance. Those are all very good first steps. The next steps to take care a continuance of what you've already done. This time around, reach out to professionals because they have more leverage, more experience, and more resources to tackle this problem that is already spiraling out of control. You are in the early stages of spiral, but don't mistake this for the beginning, because you are well down the path already and you have a lot to do to bring this under control and to rebuild what your son had taken from him. It will take time and dedication and support from specialists and family, but you can work through this. It is imperative that the father be either brought on board or removed from the situation. The first is preferable, but the second may be necessary.

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Nichole Harris
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok... positives.... I'm Grateful your hubby has guidelines for health.... I'm also grateful he's extended this to y'alls kids..... But even the most stringent diets have cheat days it's his birthday for the love of bacon chill

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol my mom's like this and idk how to tell her that it's not that I'm lazy and out of shape it's that I barely eat anything and therefore can't build muscle

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Livingwithcfs
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This father is psychologically abusing his son. His son is scared to upset his father. At 11 the damage is already set and even with therapy and counseling he is likely to have life long issues with food, body image and self confidence. This will affect his future relationships as well as his life now.

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Grandmother always commented on my weight. I was a chubby kid and no one ever stood up for me because she was an evil dragon. While the rest of the family were eating roast beef with mashed potatoes and gravy, I got a salad - which was basically a plate full of lettuce and a tomato slice. I was about 12 when I informed my Mother I would not be attending these family dinners anymore. I expected an argument, but she was fine with it (I think she felt guilty that she couldn't stand up to her mother). I didn't develop any weird eating habits, as I'd prefer an extra 10 pounds to being a psychotic food weigher, but I did develop a pure hatred of my Grandmother.

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Shoshana Sherrington
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On the current timeline son eventually breaks and gorges himself until he is morbidly obese and loses any affection from father, gets steadily more depressed until committing suicide and dad will never blame himself. Get help now before it's too late

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Skorm Carter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when you have a child while you're still a child. Your husband is a total a*s. I wonder how old he is. I bet he is also the type that skips his legs lol.

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