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If you're a man, it sounds silly that something as universal as healthcare can be subjective. But when it comes to pain, women are treated differently than we are.

One study, for example, found that women in the emergency department who report having acute pain are less likely to be given opioid painkillers (the most effective type) than men. After they are prescribed, women also have to wait longer to receive them.

To get a better understanding of the scope of this problem, Redditor u/Ancient-Abs published a post, asking: "Why are many gynecological procedures done without pain medicine?" and sharing their own experience having an IUD inserted.

The story inspired many other women to share the nightmares they have gone through as well, shedding light on this difficult topic we don't talk about enough.

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u/Ancient-Abs told Bored Panda they discovered this "when I myself underwent an IUD insertion and then had significant pain during and afterwards. My doctor acted like I was an exception and that most women felt nothing, but as I asked my friends, I discovered that multiple women have pain and that numbing the area is possible but doctors don't do it."

The Redditor thinks this disparity between men and women is "a result of systemic misogyny that was institutionalized in the Middle Ages in medicine to avoid giving women pain control during birth because they felt that women had the curse of Eve on them and they were fulfilling God's plan by letting them suffer."

"In modern medicine, this practice has been passed down but relabeled as women don't feel as much pain as men or that they are overreacting because the cervix doesn't have nerves," u/Ancient-Abs added. "It does and you can numb them. People just choose not to."

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In fact, this whole branch of medicine has grown out of a rotten trunk. Consider the "father of modern gynecology," James Marion Sims. He developed pioneering tools and surgical techniques related to women's reproductive health. In 1876, he was even named president of the American Medical Association, and in 1880, he became president of the American Gynecological Society, an organization he helped found. The 19th-century physician has been lionized with a half-dozen statues around the US.

But Sims conducted his research on enslaved Black women without anesthesia, and medical ethicists as well as historians claim that his use of medical test subjects falls into a long, ethically bereft history that includes the Tuskegee syphilis experiment and Henrietta Lacks. According to critics, Sims cared more about the experiments than providing therapeutic treatment, and that he caused unimaginable suffering by operating under the racist notion that Black people did not feel pain.

After going through all the replies under their post, u/Ancient-Abs took away that "if we want to change this, we have to write the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology in order to have them require doctors and doctors in training to numb these areas before procedures." If you want to stay on this topic, keep an eye out for a letter template the Redditor will draft that people can sign and send to this group.

#1

I started bleeding when pregnant with my first and went to see my OBGYN at the hospital. She looked and said there were polyps on my cervix. She then told me to just hold the nurse's hand and pick a spot on the ceiling, and she’ll cut them out real quick. I honestly never thought to ask for any kind of pain meds for any procedure like this before. WTF is wrong with me and other women? We’ve been so brainwashed to believe that 'it’s just a pinch' and now drive home and go make dinner. I’m a medical professional and had to read a thread on Reddit to realize I need to advocate for myself, and I don’t need to be in pain during gyno procedures.

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Scagsy
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is absolutely outrageous. How can this be allowed to happen in modern medicine? This sounds like something from the dark ages and must stop now. I honestly can't believe it.

Riley Quinn
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a white male-dominated industry. It's not just women who are treated like crap, but also most people of color.

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Cigdem Kanburoğlu
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an anesthesiologist, you do not have to endure pain. In fact, pain management is a quality factor for hospitals. It is a shame in this era to let anyone to feel this kind of discomfort and pain.

Ceredwyn Ealanta
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. I'm only trained as a first aider, but the thing our ambulance guy NAILED into us repeatedly was: Shock kills. Shock kills perfectly healthy people. Get that person out of pain and relaxed, get their blood pressure down, get their core temperature normalised. A person in sudden horrific pain can literally _just die_.

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MoMcB
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was torn after childbirth and had to have stitches. The midwife started, it was pure agony. I told her I needed pain relief or a local anaesthetic, she said "it only hurts when I stitch". She was told pretty rapidly to stop and get a doctor.

Cathelijne Van
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of midwives are like that. My friend had one that promised her an epidural (? Where you get pain relief during child birth) bit the midwife waited with getting her to the hospital and when she arrived it was too late. She literally said 'I hoped this would happen so you would have a natural birth'

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Kathy Smith
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A doctor told me, when he was doing a procedure, that there are no nerves in that area. He really believed that.

Jo Choto
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup, always advocate for yourself or take someone with you who is strong personality enough to advocate for you.

Misha Writer
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a panic attack during a gynocological procedure, after being told to "take Tylenol half an hour before you come in". I went in with the mindset that it wasn't going to hurt too much because I chose to have the procedure done. The procedure was not done, could not be done. Thankfully, my gyno agreed to bypass the biopsy after that and we moved forward with a hysterectomy.

Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From what i remember my mom was bleeding and went to the hospital twice when she was pregnant with my brother. I don't remember what they did but it was a weird experience for all of us.

Eglė Bukauskaitė
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

had polyps cut from my throat as a kid. They numbed my tongue, but nothing else. Literally tied to a chair. I still cried and tried to escape as if i was been in a process of a slow kill. Doctor complained to my parents that i'm a wild uncontrolled child. Almost 30 years later i still shiver remembering the experience. Can't imagine similar procedure in more sensitive body parts, brrrr

Karen Negrin
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was lucky....I also had a poly in my cervix and my gyno had me meet him at a hospital, had me placed under general anesthesia and had an anesthesiologist in the room with me. Mind you, it could also be because I am known to have a whole slew of medical issues and he did not want to risk my having a complication during the procedure that he could not handle alone.

Riley Quinn
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I yelped due to unexpected sharp pain during a routine procedure. Didn't scream, just yelped. The doctor leaned over me and told me to stop being a baby. I grabbed his tie so fast, yanked his face into mine, watched his face go red, and wouldn't let go. Took 2 orderlies to disentangle him. You will respect me, MF!

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    #2

    When I had my first baby, I was very tiny, and the kiddo was a big, bouncing boy. I got snapped at by the first nurse for making a sound. This was long before maternity pain relief was really a thing. We got gas and pethidine/demerol. Fast forward, my then-husband had his vasectomy done eight weeks after my fourth baby. During 15 hours of labor, I had gas. For the excruciating pain after, I got OTC pain killers. For the raw, cracked bleeding nipples, I was told, 'You know how it goes, they’ll toughen up in a couple of weeks (of breastfeeding).' He was given Valium to take the night before, another one for that morning, and then pain relief for the duration of the five-minute procedure. He was given another script for afterward and told to go easy for a few days. Are women seen as tough or subhuman?

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    Auntriarch
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Along with babies, black people, animals

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is ridiculous even nowadays. I have severe pain from endometriosis that gives me like really bad period cramps, some worse than when i got my cervix hit or i broke my arm. My ex GP (a woman) refused to give me any painkillers because "one paracetamol should be fine" (sometimes not even tramadol helps). My FIL went to the same doctor because he had pain in his hip; bad but enough that he could walk, drive and talk fine unlike me. She gave him such strong drugs that he couldnt drive for 3 days. F**k her. After the paracetamol thing I never went back

    snipergun
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Excuse (noble) is women are tough. Real reason is they're seen as subhuman. All these medicine procedures and were most likely started and developed by men. I don't think they ever thought of this and I wonder what is written in books about these painful procedures...

    Bobby
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Subhuman, aye. Chemo port was inserted by Cancer Hospital, under anesthesia. Two years later: local VA sat me in chair, lanced me open... tried to pull it out. Wiggling, yanking, probing in chest. Tissue had grown around the port because they were "too booked" for months to get me in for removal. Male doctor was basically daring me to make a sound. Smirking. VA has a terrible track record for women, including cervical biopsies without anesthesia. Again, the smirking.

    Jenn Pinnau
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most pain studies are done on men and then they calculate down the dosis. Which makes us "not even worth the time for scientific research" , therefore I vote subhuman.

    Wednesday
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we are undeniably tough. but we are seen as subhuman... probably why we are tough.

    Mischa Puschelchen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mayn religions teach that women actually DESERVE to feel pain. maybe that is part of the problem?

    Jess Thompson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we were seen as tough would the words, “pussy”, “girl”, “feminine”, “c**t” be used so regularly as derogatory terms or to suggest weakness? We’re not f*****g equal yet, not even close. The misogyny, including internalised, runs DEEP.

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women are tougher than men, but still treated as subhumans.

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    #3

    I argued with a doctor who told me that there would be no pain management for my colposcopy — after I showed up for it. His reasoning was that 'it was only a five- to 10-minute procedure,' and I could have some ibuprofen(!) afterwards. When I told him that vasectomies were a five- to 10-minute procedure, too, but that I bet if he were having one, he'd want some anesthetic for his balls, he straight-up walked out on me.

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    Beth Sito
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that is how you advocate for yourself and other women. Bravo! 👏

    Momma Jess
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've advocated for others for so many years and not myself it's ridiculous. Women have so many problems with medical care, and it doesn't have to be that way. Don't be afraid to fire your doctor, find someone who will listen and not just tell you you're crazy.

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    Ray_gunn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's great advocating for yourself, but then he walked out and you were denied healthcare. This is what concerns me, that people who want jurisdiction over their own bodies are punished for daring to speak out!

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed. Most of the time if you are assertive doctors punish you

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    devi L.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a great example that this is a mans world. They have huge advantages and get all the medicine and care needed that they want. Us women get nothing. Period cramps who cares show up for your shift. Child birth hope you're baby is well and healthy but don't forget you return at this date and depression doesn't count. Etc etc Smh we need more women majors, managers and president.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t care if he walked out. I’m much more curious if she was able to get an appropriate treatment. Is any doctor willing to be ethical about this or it’s just malpractice across the board?

    Heather Lambie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I look after seniors and one of my seniors just had to have a colonoscopy last week. She was quite nervous but I told her they would give her something to relax her…….they didn’t, she screamed in pain and had to be held down. She is 93!!!

    Diane Herman
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They were supposed to put her to sleep, not just relax her!

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    CincyReds
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have walked out on him once he told me no paid meds. F**k off D**k!!

    Ilse Sciovercomer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had no pain medication while having this done. It was so painful. The nurse just told me to be still so that they could finish and to just breathe in and out and I will be fine.

    Jo Iverson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did the same thing, only I said how about I put a cig out on your penis. I got pain meds.

    Jo Iverson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh and when I asked a Dr. to take out my iud since i was getting infections he actually said, 'if I want to listen to some pinko commi fine then. what?

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    Martha Higgins
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The UK's National Health Service website has this to say about colposopy: A colposcopy is nearly pain-free. You might feel pressure when the speculum goes in. It might also sting or burn a little when they wash your cervix with the vinegar-like solution. If you get a biopsy, you might have some discomfort. HAH!

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    #4

    I had a cervical biopsy when I was 18, and the doctor was like, 'You’ll feel just a pinch.' Then I felt, well, a chunk of my cervix cut out and screamed. He was like, 'Shhh.' So I cried quietly, and he looked up at me and said, 'Why are you crying? There are no nerve endings on the cervix. I know you aren’t actually feeling pain.' That was literal decades ago. I had hoped things had changed for women since then. Good to hear that old [jerk] doctor is still the norm. Cool. Real cool.

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    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have kicked him in the face and said "Why are you tearing up...there are no nerve endings in your face...."

    Sherie Smith
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had one at 17 and I DID kick them in the face...I was told " just a pinch" and when I screamed they grabbed my leg and shhh'd me and acted as though I was irritating him. He put his head down and got a face full of foot as I was jumping down and off the table... I left and never went back!!

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    Jill Pulcifer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cone biopsy of the cervix after the birth of my first child, my doctor said exactly the same thing. I cried through the procedure, and had horrible cramping afterward, was offered no pain meds and told during that "it didnt actually hurt, I just thought it hurt." This is just another example of the casual misogyny that we are just accustomed to living with. When will we get equal treatment in healthcare? As it stands we are losing ground looking at you Texas.

    Pits&Poms
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had laser treatment to burn off precancerous cells. No freezing or pain meds afterwards. Just had to lay there in my gown and feet in the stirrups.never been numbed or anything for any of biopsies neither

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    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I refuse to see male gynecologists. In my experience, they are cold fingered feckless doctors with the bedside manner of a rat.

    Aaricia
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do they think the cervix has no nerve endings!?

    Raven DeathShade
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm assuming that, having never pleasured a woman, he believes that it's a biological thing that they just can't feel anything down there.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080412172431.htm The CERVIX DOES TOO HURT! It can be bruised, it can bleed, it has lots of nerve endings.

    Rannveig Ess
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had this exact thing happen. I actually "swam" away from him on the table, pulling away, screaming. He looked at me like I had gone mad and was arrogantly stunned when I said that HURT and OMG! I had 2 more polyps he wanted to take out and I told him to go Eff himself, got dressed and left. Bleeding like mad (I actually stopped in the bathroom to take off my tank top, and used it as a "napkin" till I got home. He seriously didn't see what the issue was, and it hurt worse that there were 2 females there in the room - one handing him the instruments and one was a Physician assistant. Neither said a word. When I went to a female GYN to have this finished, she actually wanted to report him for doing this, saying it was barbaric. Uh, yeah

    Seabeast
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How the hell can anybody not realize that there are nerve endings in the cervix?! Is that what doctors are actually taught?

    Annett Nyrud
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doctors also used to think that babies felt no pain, and that that part developed later, my mum told me.

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    Brandy Grote
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, same, but in the military. Old Navy doctor armed with what looked like a long handled grapefruit spoon. His idea was to apparently scrape out the cancerous cells. I'm crawling off the back of the table after TWENTY MINUTES of him scraping and scraping. He says "I have to stop because you just aren't cooperating". 0.0 Was given NO aftercare instructions. Didn't know the continual weeping smelly discharge was the cancer, still there and still growing. Went to Air Force hospital a YEAR later, they gave me anesthetic to take a test biopsy (same tools but only 2 scrapes). That dr did the necessary surgery to remove the cancer. I was then told to not think about having kids "for a while". Good thing I was rendered infertile, as women who had that procedure either miscarry or die without extreme intervention.

    Eileen Barnett
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg...until now, i never thought about pain meds, only because it wasnt offered. I had a biopsy of my cervix, from a women doctor (although, i beg to differ)who told me it would only be a pinch, and i could go right back to work. I believed her. About 1 minute into driving back to work, i had to pull over and call my boss. The pain was so intense i started crying. Go right back to work, she said. Little pinch, my ass. Thats why i had my doubts she was a women, How can one woman lie like that to another women??? Thats really fu*ked up!!!

    Rachael Sampson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And as a man, how in the f**k would he know! Ugh I just hate gaslighters like that.

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    #5

    I had a cervical biopsy as well and I passed out in the elevator afterwards from the pain. It’s really insane and having theses procedures done without any kind of pain management as the norm should not be a thing. I would totally help with any campaign you might want to start!

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    Cigdem Kanburoğlu
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an anesthesiologist, you do not have to endure pain. In fact, pain management is a quality factor for hospitals. It is a shame in this era to let anyone to feel this kind of discomfort and pain.

    littlesaresare
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After being alive for 27 years with many chronic diseases that often land me in an ambulance in too much pain to even breathe properly, the other month was the first time in my entire life I have been offered pain medication by a paramedic. I actually thought it was a trick to dismiss me as a drug seeker and refused it for a good 10 minutes before he gave it to me anyway, asking what sort of asshole paramedic he would be to just sit there listening to me whimpering and not care. First time in my life I was just... not in pain. And first time I realised that all my pain was actually a choice. The doctors' choice.

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    MrsC
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happened to me as well. It's like getting shot in the crotch with a gun.

    ShriSha Kamboj
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read it somewhere that women feel twice d pain but also have twice more pain tolerance........but that is no excuse to not give anesthesia....I don't know how effective this would be but a small test [like a pinch or poking] should be done to a person to get a brief idea about their pain tolerance n then numbed accordingly........this may sound good but I don't know how practical it will be

    Terri Robinson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a cervical biopsy done in 2009 with lidocaine. Doctor said he shot me up good, I felt everything. I told him next time there isn't going to be a next time. I later found out lidocaine is like saline solution to me; doesn't numb nothing!!

    CincyReds
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember having one of these when I was about 18. Same thing, you will feel a little pinch, it was o little pinch, I teared up, then they put a tampon the size of an extra large cigar up my vajj for bleeding afterwards. I will never have t his done again unless I get something for pain

    Jenni Irving
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This literally happened to me on Monday. It was awful. I'm still in pain. I wish I'd known.

    Miss Frankfurter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't pass out in the elevator but I very well could have because I started bleeding heavily and was able to get back to the office so they could apply some kind of stuff to the area that was bleeding and it burned like hell!

    Wednesday
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a 29mm ovarian cyst rupture during a transvaginal ultrasound and screamed. The Doc yelled at me, "What is wrong with you!" I yelled back, "A f*****g cyst burst in my f*****g abdominal cavity, asshole, and now it feels like f*****g labor!!" Why they can understand that blood from injury causes enormous pain in the abdominal cavity but fluid from a cyst wouldn't? Blood is a fluid. It doesn't have special pain inducing qualities, it's just a fluid. Good lord the short sightedness - ya know - maybe they should f*****g ask.... a woman... or a couple thousand.

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until women really buckle down and spread this information on SM, change will be slow. It's still a white male industry that looks down on women and BIPOC. We need to advocate for each other.

    J Robertson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really? I had cervical and uterine biopsies, a pap and placed an IUD at the same time. No pain. It wasn't comfortable. I felt more dazed than anything. I got to my car and had to sit there for a minute. It was a lot. Not painful though. Had to have actual cervical surgery a month later. For the most part. I was fine. Took some pain pills once a few days after.

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    #6

    I work in a medical office and women pass out all the time after IUD placements. I remember how hot heavy crampy and panicky the insertion was thankfully mine was fast and I didn’t pass out but I felt so weird the whole day and felt shaky. Getting it out was TRAUMATIC. The strings were not outside the cervix so a radiologist did an ultrasound while doctor dug around in my uterus trying to grab the strings and she couldn’t get them and i said stop and my ob didn’t right away so i pushed everyone off me and had a panic attack. Then i had to come back and get a scope to get it out and they gave me a Valium and it was like a walk in the park. Everyone. Should. Get. A. VALIUM.

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    Missy Moo Moo
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't have any Valium during my procedure, but I had some at home and I was in so much pain I couldn't walk. I just laid on the couch staring at the ceiling assessing all the medications I could take to stop the pain, decided on Valium. I told the dr when I went back and got told off because that's not what valium are for. Basically medication for muscle cramping doesn't treat muscle cramps

    Lauren
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can confirm muscle relaxers don't actually work. I have two herniated discs. Due to the nerve being pinched, I have constant charlie horse spasms in my right leg, hip to toes, and in my left foot. I'm on the max dosage along with anti-inflammatories and nerve relaxers. Still contort for hours at night.

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    neonn_pieee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS! My first IUD insertion was painful AF. I remember literally seeing stars when I was on the table and almost passing out. I didn't have my car back then, so I had to walk to the bus stop (hunched over and cramping) and then wait at the bus stop. I was hunched over in so much pain the whole time. Fast forward 5 years. I go in to get my IUD replaced. The doc said I could keep it in longer if I wanted to. I said I didn't feel comfortable doing that since I was told when I got it that it had to be out in 5 years. The doc was quite rough when down there. Idk if it was because I chose to go through with it or what but my goodness, I was in so much pain. Getting it out was so painful, however, her putting a new one in was the kicker. I literally almost broke off my fiancé's hand. I tried not to kick but I seriously started crawling back and away from her and screamed in agony. My fiancé said it scared him when I screamed like that because he had never heard me scream like that before.

    neonn_pieee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I ended up crying in silence afterwards because I felt so defeated. During the procedure she was super rough and just kept saying it's okay, we're almost done. I did not feel like she was very empathetic. I was just another procedure. Anyways. I will never get an IUD replaced again. It will be coming out and that's it.

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    Winx
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was told it would not hurt at all to get it removed, and it is still one of the worst pains I have ever felt. How do they feel good about just letting us get up and walk out of there after something like that??

    meowgie catster
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I got an IUD the doctor told me that I had to stay laying down for 5 minutes cause most women pass out

    Sally R Inglesby-Schaefer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a nurse-midwife and have inserted many, many IUD's over the years. I always wrote a prescription for one Xanax tablet and a Percocet tablet to be taken an hour before insertion after informed consent was obtained and I was assured they were accompanied by a driver. I then sent them home with 2-3 Percocet (not enough for an addiction problem to occur) to be taken if Ibuprofen or Acetaminophen didn't help. They usually tolerated the procedure without much discomfort, and slept away the night, awakening the next morning feeling okay. I had a large word of mouth clientele from the local college population who were eager for this method of insertion. No one else in my office thought it necessary to give meds; I thought their treatment barbaric.

    Kellie Whyte
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a great way to have a good reputation and get plenty of patients. I don't understand why most Dr's dismiss people all the time. Do they not worry about their reputation???

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    OhForSmegSake
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't want an IUD, I just wanted the hormonal implant in my arm replaced but the doctor at the clinic bullied me into the procedure. First he said he'd just have a look and see if I was suitable, next thing I know he's shoving it inside me without warning or local aesthetic. The male nurse at my side yelled bc I had grabbed his shirt and pulled out some chest hair. Two female nurses came bursting in, apparently they could hear me screaming in the waiting room. I had to be carried out to my friends car and couldn't walk for 3 days afterward due to the pain. In the end I had 5 years of pain and discomfort before anyone would remove the fking thing.

    Kellie Whyte
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh wow I would have sued for malpractice, or at least reported him to the board. That's highly illegal!!

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    Full of Giggles
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so grateful my OGBYN opted for anesthesia for my IUD insertion. I’m now on Medicaid and I’m terrified my provider won’t approve anesthesia for the removal.

    Sandera
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got mine earlier this year, my doctor was an older male. He told me that it'd be mildly uncomfortable for a second but that it'd be over afterwards. Well, I was in pain for days and it was pretty awful. I let out a small noise of pain and flinched. He then had the audacity to tell me that giving birth is much worse. Yeah, well, guess what, that's what I got the IUD for. Also, pretty interesting, I have a hunch he did not have to endure either.

    October
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup I passed out as well. Gyno acted as if I was the only one ever to do so.

    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Idk why they even created these sadistic torture devices! They are cruelly coercing girls and women to SHOVE A FOREIGN OBJECT UP INTO THEIR VAGINA THROUGH THE CERVIX AND PLANT IT IN SIDE THE UTERUS. What about any of that makes sense or sounds like a good idea? What f**king creep came up with the plan to straight up LIE about what females can and cannot physically feel inside of their own bodies?

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    #7

    I had a procedure done a few months ago where they had to tear through my cervix to fill my uterus with fluid — something to do with fertility issues. The pain was unbearable, and I felt violated. I cried so hard and was furious they would let me go through that without any anesthesia or pain reliever. How is this so normal?

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    Angela Blackburn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had this procedure as well to look for issues due to abnormal bleeding. Doc said " this is a breeze- it's like going from normal to 9 mos pregnant in under a minute". When I cried from the pain she says "Ohhh I forgot you've never been pregnant " she couldn't finish the procedure due to the pain I was experiencing.

    Susie Elle
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOW IS GOING FROM NORMAL TO 9 MONTHS PREGNANT IN UNDER A MINUTE CONSIDERED A BREEZE

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    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s horrible! It is a painful medical procedure! I had it performed during surgery for cysts and endometriosis. As it turned out the disease destroyed my Fallopian tubes resulting in permanent infertility. Also why I keep getting cysts on ovaries. But it took a long time for my new doctors to even agree I have endometriosis even though I was already diagnosed and had previous surgery! It’s insane what women are put through in every aspect of our lives.

    Judes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Possibly a hysterosalpingogram (HSG), where they open the cervix and fill the uterus with fluid and then take an x-ray (the fluid shows up on the x-ray). The aim is to see if the fallopian tubes are blocked or not. I had one of these 15 years ago. It was agony and for a long time afterwards I would break out in a cold sweat if I thought about it.

    abby smink
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was thinking it was that procedure as well. As an x-ray tech, I've assisted in many of these. Usually they go ok.

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    Orlane Bienfait-Luna
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had this procedure too, with 3 male student looking at my cervix the whole time! The doc was female and nice but he “congratulations you just experienced birthing pains” was really messed up! Especially down the line I haven’t been able to get pregnant and will probably never be!

    Kerri Hudson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So disgusting that this happened to you. Barbaric!

    Brandy Grote
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After my colposcopies and surgery, I have a LOT of scar tissue in and around my cervix. My Pap tests (which I kinda need as a cervical cancer survivor!) involve breaking the scar tissue to get a sample. And of course, blood on the slide invalidates the test, so I might have to go back for another one after a few weeks. Sigh.

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    #8

    After having my third kid via C-section, they refused to give me any pain meds except two regular strength Tylenol every few hours. My baby was in the NICU for a few nights, too. So when I wanted to see or hold him, I had to grind my teeth and get there through sheer willpower. However, my husband got put on morphine for kidney stones at this same hospital. For the record, I wasn't breastfeeding. It was in my chart. So it's not like they were trying to get around accidentally dosing the baby. I'm also not saying my husband's pain wasn't great but that there is a glaringly obvious bias. I filed a complaint, but nothing happened.

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They’ll just paint her like a complaining Karen even though she’s fully right and is experiencing sexism.

    Cold Contagious
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really think that some of the narcotic issues will depend on where you live and how the doctor themselves feel about them. My PCP's office will give some pain meds, not a extended amount by any means. But they care about their patients and don't want anyone in pain. If it's a chronic pain issue, they will medicate per diagnosis, while searching for a pain management placement for you.

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    Amanda Thompson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since the CDC’s opioid guidelines came out I’ve known multiple women sent home on the day of their hysterectomies with only Advil. I can’t even imagine having multiple organs removed and given the same medicine they give people for a headache.

    Cold Contagious
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds completely insane to me. My aunt had a hysterectomy and was down for weeks. I know she had pain meds. It's been years ago though but they must've lost their damn minds!

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    Evily
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You complain - nothing ever happens. Truth.

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Complaining to a hospital's admin is a thorough waste of time. It's a shame your husband didn't advocate for you.

    JD Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve had kidney stones, an epidural birth, & a natural birth. The kidney stones were nowhere near natural childbirth. And my kidney stones were big enough to consider surgery if they wouldn’t pass.

    My O My
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After giving birth I was in excruciating pain due to the tissue damage and the Kristeller they used. I wasn't breestfeeding but wouldn't get proper pain medication despite it. A very caring and lovely nurse snuck me some of her private (strong) painkillers.

    Lauren
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks Purdue Pharma. With my herniated discs, the only practitioner who offered me any immediate pain relief was a female PA. I couldn't walk, sit, stand, lie down, etc., without sharp, burning, stabbing pain radiating through my body. She offered me the lowest dose of Tylenol 3. One tablet, once a day. The normal dosage is 1-2 tablets every 4 hours as needed. Again, Thanks Purdue Pharma.

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    #9

    I got put under to have wisdom teeth removed, but nothing when I got my IUD put in. I literally screamed when they inserted it. I've broken bones and have been in less pain.

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    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had all 4 wisdom teeth removed in the same procedure, with only Novocain. I was in so much pain, gushing blood from my mouth, literally spit out enough blood to fill a big gulp cup the hour following surgery. I had to drive myself home. It they gave my vics for the pain afterwards so that was fun.

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mostly unrelated, but when I had nine teeth removed (4 wisdom teeth, one baby tooth, 4 back molars), they put me under, but afterwards it turned out I was allergic to the pain medicine I was on, and they wouldn’t let me take anything else because they thought I was trying to get more drugs. I was TWELVE. So I had to choose between excruciating mouth pain and horrible full body hives.

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    Jesse
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had my wisdom teeth removed and got such strong meds that I was pretty blazed for about two days. I'd get the same meds again if i had the opportunity

    Incitatus
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My gyno told me the whole area is much more flexible post partum, but becomes quite inflexible over time. The further I go out form childbirth, the more painful the IUD manipulation becomes. The first IUD was easy 3 months out, the second was painful 5 years out, and this last one was incredibly painful at 10 years afterward. I'm very thankful I will not be replacing it after this next 5 years.

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    #10

    I got a LEEP procedure, and that was more painful than drug-free childbirth. I can feel my cervix descend before my period and I can feel the penis on my cervix during sex. Still, the doctor told me I shouldn’t feel anything. I had no sexual desire for months after the LEEP, and I talked to a lot of women who had the same procedure and some said they’re like that after years, or they feel pain or bleed during sex. Why are they so set on 'the cervix has no pain receptors?'

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    Susie Elle
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The person who claims the cervix has no pain receptors obviously has never had a penis inside of them at slightly the wrong angle during sex before.

    Beth Sito
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I completely agree! It is incredibly painful.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A 2008 study showed that the cervix causes more pain in delivery than the uterus. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080412172431.htm

    Cigdem Kanburoğlu
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an anesthesiologist, you do not have to endure pain. In fact, pain management is a quality factor for hospitals. It is a shame in this era to let anyone to feel this kind of discomfort and pain.

    Clarf
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm assuming these are male doctors who don't have a cervix? Still no excuse.

    John and Brandy Keippala
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg!!!! I had a LEEP done in 2003, no pain meds, nothing. They literally had me hold my infant daughter on my chest and "focus on something you love". Eff you doc, my kid is not going to be the cure for my pain!

    Nazda Pokmov
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because men are in charge of medical procedures and they don't have cervixs!!!!

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a vast difference between shouldn't and didn't. Doctors, keep your dumbass assumptions to yourselves. If we say we're in pain, accept it at face value, don't contradict us.

    Jenný Samúelsdóttir Herlufsen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did not know what procedure you were talking about so I googled it. This is one of the first things that pops up. When I had my Leep i was put under. Mild my a$$.. “Is the LEEP Painful? During a LEEP, there may be some mild discomfort or cramping. With the numbing medication applied, you will not feel any heat from the loop or any of the cutting sensation. Most patients have reported they did not feel any sensations during the procedure.”

    Pat Lenzo
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because they don't have a cervix - or any imagination!

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    #11

    Five years ago, I had my first IUD inserted. I lucked out with a physician who insisted on the local anesthetic for insertion and made me lay on the exam table for 30 minutes afterward for monitoring. They've moved on to another state so I had to find a new physician for my replacement IUD. When I scheduled the replacement, I specifically asked for the anesthetic, and they stated they would make sure it was prepped for me. When I got there for the appointment, they told me that the anesthetic was not prepared and it would 'take longer to prep and numb you than to just insert the new device.' Already strained, I buckled and allowed them to do removal and replacement without the anesthetic. It was agonizing. I complained with the office manager and asked to have my physician changed, but I was bullied out of that, too. I had first asked after tubal ligation instead of an IUD and — though my physician was a woman, and I'm 37 with a 17-year-old child and no interest in more children — I got so bullied by her that I settled for another IUD. I'm autistic, so it's incredibly hard for me to initiate care in the first place, and it's harder to stand up for myself. It sucks. When I went for the ultrasound follow-up two weeks after the replacement, the tech laughed and said, 'They placed the IUD too low.' When I asked what that meant, she said I'd have to talk to the doctor. Sobbing and horrified that I might have to go through this s**t a second time, I demanded a doctor look at the images there-and-then. A much younger doctor examined my images and gave me the OK after advising that while the placement was lower than was common, my particular IUD doesn't come with as long of an insertion rod. She explained that so long as the device was not in the cervix, and I was not bleeding or cramping or the device was expelled, I was protected. I hope to f**k she's right, but as soon as I get past the trauma of the whole affair, I'm finding a new GYN and getting a second opinion. Women are discriminated against to a revolting degree; disabled women are abused outright. It's easy for people who are not me to say things like, 'You should have said no,' but I'm inherently conflict-averse and anxious to the point of nausea at pushing back against authority figures, especially doctors. It's really hard to self-advocate when you're on the spectrum, and most people are confused about what that means.

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    Miss Frankfurter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you always bring someone with you to an appointment like that to help advocate with you?

    Gini Sarver
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i was told by a dr that no one would be in the room with me during my office visits, my ,then, 16 yr old daughter took over, told her off and told her that if no one could be there for me then i wouldn’t be there either

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    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With or without autism they will most definitely bully you into believing you are not valid. They may think they have more right because of the autism, but they are wrong. I feel you. The moment they learn something they believe would give them leverage they use it.

    Kellie Whyte
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not always easy for people without disability to advocate for themselves. I find it very, VERY difficult myself. I feel like if I ask for any pain medication that I will be seen as a drug seeker and I honestly can't handle that at all, so I will just put up with it.

    Evily
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can relate. While I’m not autistic, I have a chronic disease that makes me feel very vulnerable. I’m also so used to it, it’s hard to explain how erratic it is and what my sensitivities are. But when I do try, no one is listening. It makes it even harder to cut through the staunch patriarchal wall the next time, and so on. I’ve only started to become more assertive in my old age because of tons of practice. But I can also clearly see how the system wants to see me dead, and I’m mustering all my strength to protest. There’s little that’s truly life affirming in medical practice today, especially for women and especially if you have a chronic disease.

    Viki Banaszak
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think many people take a dr.s word as truth. It isn't so. I hate to say it but the schools they go to are Rothchild controled and I believe they have a vandeta against women for some reason. Even woman dr.s are taught things and never question what they are taught. We all need to question what we were taught and fight back.

    Bettie-Jean Neal
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought I was the only one who had a hard time initiating care, literally the only person in existence. Total panic attack making any doctor's appointment. I'm on the spectrum too.

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    #12

    Because healthcare for women is in dire need of innovation compared to other areas of medicine. It has been normalized for women to endure pain, trauma and discomfort during normal gynecological procedures for way too long. It isn’t necessary and needs to change.

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    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember when my gyn said, “ we’ll see about your self-proclaimed endometriosis.” And I clapped back so fast that it is certainly not self proclaimed, it’s diagnosed. Didn’t you read my chart? Don’t you have record from my previous doctor? She was much more polite afterwards

    Vinnie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got the same condescending attitude at a female doctor once to.. until i lifted my shirt and showed her my scar from bellybutton down , stared at her and went.. "yeah because i choose to operate out a 2 kg cyst and remove an ovary because it would be a fun idea!".. She became quiet after that and prescribed my meds without any more issues or disbelief.

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    Caro Caro
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. Could it be that women don't really complain a lot. We have cramps and most of us shrug it off and get on with life. Women who have given birth are in terrible pain but once they hold the baby they say the pain was worth it (which is true) but maybe because of that others (men) downplay women's pain and health issues? And could it be that we need more women in science and healthcare. I'm pretty sure a woman will understand other women's pain better or at least not shush her !

    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A big problem is that female doctors learn all those biases so most of them are as cruel as the male ones. So of course then female.patients are not believed :(

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    Mary Jeffries
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s amazing to me that this is still going on. During all my reproductive appointments and hospitalizations, I’ve had good care and was satisfied with the results. With so many women practitioners these days, I expect some major strides to start happening.

    Amanda Thompson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly the worst care I had for endometriosis was from a women. After two days in the hospital and needing a vomit tray in her office she yelled at me that they couldn’t help me because both my ovaries were fine. I’d had one ovary removed 6 months before by the doctor she’dtook over for, in the same building, which was also in my records from every hospital visit for pain since.

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    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now, picture these woman as BIPOC, perhaps a language barrier to boot. If this many white women are complaining, just imagine what non-white women have to contend with for all their medical procedures.

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    #13

    I had both an HSG and a saline ultrasound. I have high pain tolerance, and I was sweating profusely and extremely nauseous. I have never needed a few minutes before getting up, but I did that time — and that was with 800 mg taken beforehand that I learned I should take from the internet, not my doctor, who never said a word about needing pain medication. I am absolutely blown away that a doctor can do that procedure hundreds of times a year — see hundreds of women crying, sweating, writhing in pain, and passing out from pain — yet no form of anesthesia is ever offered. It’s f**king cruelty. They literally push a tube through your cervix. Why would they ever think this would be ok to do without pain control?

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    Miss Frankfurter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And yet EVERY time we insert a Foley catheter into a man we are required to insert gel to numb beforehand. Women? Not a darn thing. Just put it in. Nope. I grabbed for the gel for all catheter insertions for women too.

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, is that for the same procedure? The men get pain meds for the same procedure where women don’t??

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    Jo Choto
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They wouldn't push something like that into a penis without pain meds and hand holding, but oh yeah, cervix, uterus, who cares?

    abby smink
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, they do lots of these procedures, but only once have I seen a patient react as you are describing. (I've assisted in many)

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so off topic. I need to get cortisone shots in my knuckles, which is quite painful, but I can breathe myself into a trance where I feel no pain. But this takes a few minutes. I moved to a new location, got a new ortho, but this one didn't allow me the time I required. I told him he had to wait, he got snotty, I left and found a better, more compassionate ortho.

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    #14

    The problem is that no one has ever cared about women’s pain, so women never complained. Since women never complained—because it wouldn’t do any good anyway—men think women have it easy. The medical field has always ignored women and continues to ignore women. There is a total lack of respect around the world for what women and girls go through. Kind of off topic, but I mostly get angry when I think about how it must have been for women throughout history. Can you imagine your village is being attacked and you’re in the middle of giving birth or you’re pregnant? How about a nice long carriage ride discovering the west with your husband. You have your period, you feel like s**t, but you don’t want to be a negative person on this trip. I’ve read so many history books about the things women dealt with, and honestly, we haven’t progressed that much when it comes to female care. It’s not right…

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    Jo Choto
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The entirety of every single piece of medicine is founded upon using men as the baseline, which is why women's heart attacks are missed, why diagnosis of ADD and autism are missed in girls/women, why ob/gyn stuff is completely dismissed and often improperly and insufficiently taught. And don't get me started on how medicine affects people of color...

    Gini Sarver
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recently acquired some test results from about 5 yrs showing i had a mild heart attack on the right side of my ♥️ , i had went to the ER thinking i was having a ♥️ attack was there for hours, given nitro, baby aspirin and their fancy truponin blood 🩸 test that tells doctors if you’ve recently had some type of cardiac problems, cardiac arrest is really what they’re looking for with that lab work anyhow, my husband was with me when they, the doctor, eventually came in told me my labs were *perfect* and sent me 🏡 when in fact i should have been admitted and it looked into as to why i had this event imagine my surprise last month reading this i immediately went in to see my regular doctor and showed her the paperwork i had, she searched her file on me that the hospital sent her and NOTHING the hospital, for some unknown reason , kept this info from myself and my private doctor I could have died! i was 41 at the time this took place, there was no reason to do that 🤷🏼‍♀️

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    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg so true, everyone is like why don't you stand up for yourself- it's easier said than done after a lifetime of this crap and no one listening.

    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes and no. Women from prominent families usually experienced more periods than women from working/poor families because of malnutrition and physical activity. There are women athletes that haven't gotten their periods for years because of how much strain their bodies go through. A profound lack of protein will also cause you to not get your period. Women in hunting-gathering societies got periods once or twice a year while women in western societies get theirs on a monthly (28 day) basis.

    Ivy at Eve
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And unable to refuse sex while getting pregnant is definately a you problem

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then WE need to change this. If you aren't assertive, then find one to accompany you to your appointments. We cannot do this alone. We need to advocate for one another.

    Sheila Stamey
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get so tired of being treated like a drug abuser. I have arthritis in most of my joints, I've suffered over 300 broken bones ( just because I have brittle bones it doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt when I break them, had a Dr tell me that!) I've got a permanent semi dislocated hip where the Dr allowed it to heal wrong, I've had two ankle dislocations reduced without anesthesia just because a Dr wanted to be cool. There are sadists out there.

    Romenriel
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it's not like the attack on their village could be rescheduled and it was bad for anyone in the village, including men. But yes, women have it pretty rough and it used to be even worse. Just the risk of death after childbirth, either from bleeding or a sepsis, was terrible. (Both still exist, but can be fortunately treated by modern medicine.)

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    #15

    I had a LEEP procedure fully awake. I remember I started shaking, and the doctor got on to me. It was a horrible experience. It frustrates me. We can get pain medicine for removals of moles, but [screw] your cervix. That was just one of the many things they should have not have done.

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    Brandy Grote
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What. I had a LEAP surgery, and was fully under in the late 80s. Of course, they DID take out more than 1/4 of it. Ugh.

    #16

    I recently had an endometrial (uterine) biopsy. The doctor told me it would hurt, but it would be over in ten seconds. I started counting out loud, 'One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three...' then I started screaming. After, I was crying and hyperventilating. The doctor told me my reaction was normal. It was so painful that I can't really tell you how it was painful. My brain just won't go there. Years ago, I had, had cold cauterization done on my cervix — twice. Again, no pain meds. That was bad. The endometrial biopsy was worse.

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Screaming and suffering aren’t normal in a world with pain management medicine. They may be the norm but that isn’t normal.

    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These doctors SUCK. If you can feel when your stomach is upset, when your heart rate is too fast, a headache, a muscle cramp, that why the hell wouldn’t you feel your uterus?! I am getting angrier and angrier the more I read!!!!!!

    Amaree Matthews
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh. Now I remember how awful my last biopsy was. I'm getting ready to go in for another one. I'm going to remember to ask for some kind of pain medication beforehand. And if they argue that it doesn't hurt, I'm calling 'em on it

    angied4liberty
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My doctor told me that it would hurt and that I should take some ibuprofen beforehand. As she was getting ready to do the procedure she said, "This is the most pain I will ever put you in, I promise." Not really what you want to hear

    Honu
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah. I had one recently and she told me straight up that it was going to be extremely painful and to go ahead and scream if I needed to.

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    Ozacoter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is insane. They destrot the insude of yournuterus; it hurts a lot even afterwards I had ablation too but at the same time as other surgery so i was unconscious. But since i woke up i was given only paracetamol that is like f*****g candy

    Sue Phillips
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an unexpected endometrial biopsy years ago. Had a pap smear, and the next thing I know some woman is coming into the room with a couple of larger women. She told me she was taking an endometrial biopsy, and when I asked why, she said, "just to check". I never got out of her what they were checking. The pain was so bad; it felt like she had taken a crochet hook and dug out half of my insides. I realized the larger women were there in case I got uppity. My doctor didn't order the biopsy, and to this day I have no idea why it was done. BTW, I almost passed out in the parking lot later.

    Mary Tonningsen
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Endometrial biopsies are awful - I've had 2 and was never told I could have anesthesia. I won't go through it again without something!

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The doctor told me my reaction was normal. I think that line sums up this up.

    JD Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men need to start being treated like they treat women. Imagine a world in which this was allowed.

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    #17

    When I was 18, my gynecologist's office apparently forgot to tell me to take extra strength ibuprofen before my cervical biopsy — that's the recommendation they use. I got the same 'just a pinch' spiel, and they decided it was worth it to just go ahead and do it anyway. (Surely, they had some ibuprofen they could've given me.) The sample the doc took got stuck, and he was yanking on it while it was still attached. The nurse who was with him had to grab and hold my leg because she saw I was about to kick him in the head. I had done eight years of Tae Kwon Do at that point. I would have made an ass of myself. If doctors really think it doesn't hurt, perhaps they should just shut up and deal with however we choose to express our clearly fake pain.

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    Miss Frankfurter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, you wouldn't have made an ass of yourself. You'd have taught him a lesson he'd never forget.

    Riley Quinn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I strongly believe that if a doctor inflicts unnecessary pain for a patient, that patient is within their rights to return that pain. Eventually this sickos will get the point.

    Gini Sarver
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t know why anyone would ever suggest ibuprofen before any medical procedure because it is a blood thinner, and that is why most doctors ask you to not take it for 1 to 2 weeks before ALL surgeries/surgical procedure

    Jo Choto
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How terrible that you think you could have been the ass in this situation.

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    #18

    A close friend of mine was actually the nurse that inserted my iud. I bled everywhere and almost fainted/puked. She gave me a juice box and helped my bf walk me to my car, and he had to pull over several times because I kept thinking I had to puke and I cried in pain the entire way home. If numbing was an option I'd definitely have f**king taken it.

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    Karen Lilly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hope she's no longer your friend after that

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hate to break this to you, but that nurse is not your friend.

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    #19

    I had a polyp removed from my cervix. They told me I'd have some cramping and that I'd be ok. I walked out of there straight to the bathroom and almost fainted. My mom looked for me for 15 minutes until she started knocking on the door. I was able to get up and walk out. Everyone was super concerned, but no pain medicine or post-care. Nothing. I could have busted my head on the sink locked in the bathroom.

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    Adrienne Wallage-Benson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also had a cervical polyp removed with no anaesthesia. The procedure hurt like f**king hell. The male gyne had said it would only hurt "like a period cramp." I was so stunned afterwards I couldn't even describe the pain to my husband. Like someone else said, I also felt violated

    #20

    The last time I had an endometrial biopsy attempted on me – my third one, my first two were done successfully but painfully — I could not handle it and asked to doctor to stop. I had to ask her again to stop because she ignored my first try. She became visibly agitated and started slamming things around the room, ripping her gloves off and mumbling that this was a waste of her time. This was nearly 10 years ago, and I have not been to a gynecologist since. Not only did she hurt me, but she also shamed me for being intolerant to the pain.

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a creepy crybaby loser. “But I WANTED to pick at pieces of your vulva! And now you won’t let me! Pout.”

    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother had a traumatic experience done by a gyno who handled the situation incorrectly and ignored warnings. Luckily her new gyno listened about what she had gone through and gave her proper care. But it took my mother years to seek out a gyno again. There are deadly consequences to medical professionals not only botching things but even if the patient survives they discourage continued care and set a terrible example.

    Riley Quinn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, no, no, no! I've never allowed a doctor to shame me for my pain without extracting revenge. Won't go into details, but trust me, there are some things I just don't tolerate.

    Wendy Heath
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like all she wanted was the money.

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    #21

    My hysteroscopy hurt so badly that they had to call extra people to hold me down on the table. I was screaming for help and ended up kicking my doctor in the face and breaking his nose — on accident of course, but honestly, he deserved it. He was literally torturing me and all he cared about was completing the procedure at any cost. I bled and was sore for nearly a month. Something was very, very wrong with what he did, but I could never tell you what. I cannot believe they do that procedure without sedation.

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    Libstak
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you kidding me? That's a major procedure requiring complete sedation. There is internal stitching to be done and they are removing your uterus which is firmly attached to your cervix, the also need to remove your fallopian tubes. I was completely under and not allowed to move the next day. I was also given a 6 week recovery period requiring absolutely no weight lifting and short moderate walks. I had to inject myself every day for 20 days to prevent blood clots due to being expected to lay prone far significant amounts of time. Where I the check are hysterectomies being done without anesthesia?

    Deborah B
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She said hysteroscopy not hysterectomy. They didn't take it out, just shoved a camera up it. If you were screaming for help, and they held you down instead of stopping, you should absolutely sue them.

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    CincyReds
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the actual f**k? You had a hysteroscopy and were not put under? Freaking lawsuit!!

    Yup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. The NHS (UK) undertook a hysteroscopy on me with no anaesthesia of any kind. I had tears pouring down my face the entire time the pain was so awful. I had to return to have polyps and fibroids removed and received only local anaesthesia. Pain was so awful. Even just the ‘pinch’ for the local was horrible. Both times were female gynaecologists. My mother was a nurse - not the right career choice - and was livid when she had to do a maternity rotation because women ‘carry on as if they’re in pain’. I didn’t even call my mother that I went into labour in case I cried with pain and she was annoyed. This is all sad and frustrating and seriously fückëd up.

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless you were miles from civilization with no roads, no doctor should perform major surgery without anesthesia.

    Isabel Care
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was fortunately out for my failed one. Too full of fibroids to fit anything else in there. Took 3 years to get to that point after being hospitalised with blood clots on my lungs and severe anemia. They put scopes everywhere but where there was a problem. I suggested they look at my womb if I was anemic, but the doc was adamant that it couldn't possibly be that, and I should lose weight....I lost a stone the day they took out my womb and it's contents (3 years later)

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    #22

    Just the other week, I had a vulvar biopsy on the very delicate, sensitive tissue on the inner part of my vulva. My gynecologist assured me that I wouldn’t feel a thing after she injected some local anesthetic. Well, that clown f**ked up the anesthetic, because I felt EVERYTHING. It was horrible. I literally had tears pouring out of my squeezed-shut eyes as I threw my hand over my mouth and stifled a scream. She said, 'Oh, you felt that? You weren’t supposed to feel that!' Then, she kept going — gouging into my delicate bits with her medieval tool — and I kept crying and shaking. She then commented to the nurse, 'Oh, she must be nervous.' It took me a few hours to stop shaking due to the intense pain put my body in such a panic mode. I had a few panic attacks for the next three days, kept obsessively thinking about the procedure, and would just randomly start crying. Don't Google what a vulvar biopsy is if you're squeamish.

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    Elizabeth Anderson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "She must be nervous" is so dismissive. What a hysterical woman.

    Nina Harkness
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and it was a woman doctor doing this. What is wrong with her.

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    Miss Frankfurter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good God! When you've had numbing medication injected and you feel pain at the beginning of the procedure that's when the doc needs to STOP, inject more, wait and test the area for pain and if more is needed, give it until you're numb before starting again.

    Yup
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmm. Don’t ever use the NHS. This is not a concept they understand. I suspect they have budgeted £12.50 for anaesthesia and that is all it is gonna be, dammit, regardless of individual pain.

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    Yayaboobo
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks for asking me not to look it up. Now I am compelled to do exactly that!

    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WTF she knew you felt it and kept going?! Clearly illegal. I hate it more when women do this to other women. I too was fed the "you're just nervous" line. I had zero nerves before my procedure because it had never hurt before. Don't blame incompetence on the patient!

    Riley Quinn
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even women doctors are indoctrinated into the good ole boys club. Looking back over the feminists' movement, perhaps they should've begun here.

    My O My
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok. I googled. "You may feel discomfort and pressure during the procedure"

    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They always call it “pressure”! They could be describing a knife wound and still would call it “a little pressure.”

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    #23

    I had a cervical biopsy done. I am a candidate for endometrial ablation, and my insurance company required the biopsy. I didn’t know it was going to happen until 30 seconds after my ultrasound. My OBGYN requested that I take my mask off (COVID) to 'help with breathing' because it was going to hurt so much. I put my hands behind my head since I didn’t know what to do with them. I have what I consider to be a very high pain tolerance. During the procedure — I didn’t even realize I was doing it — I used my own nails to cut into the top of my other hand. The nurse actually had to bandage my hand before I left. I now have four U-shaped scars on the top of my hand. That was six months ago, and I haven’t scheduled my ablation because that situation [messed] me up in the head.

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    Wendy Heath
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an endometrial ablation in the UK, I didn't feel a thing because I had a general anaesthetic. When you consider the unbelievable charges levied against patients in the US, why are American women not demanding better care, you should stand together and fight against these terrible practices, anyone would think it's 1821 not 2021. Oh and I had to fight for the procedure, I did that by banging on the doctors desk and shouting at him, that I would not give in to what he thought I should have, (a hysterectomy) I wanted an endometrial ablation and that's what I got. Fight for better care ladies.

    JD Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We do ask, & we do fight. The problem is they don’t “have” to treat you because it’s private practice. That, & the insurance companies don’t like to pay for pain meds with women. They covered my husbands cracked finger with pain meds but refused to not only not cover my babies births, but also refused to cover any epidurals. Those were optional, meaning if you have the $2,500 to pay for one, you can have one. But the doctors often pre charge you for them then claim it’s too late for you to have one. .. even if you’ve been in the hospital for the last 10 hours before you needed it.

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    Gini Sarver
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you would think a female dr would know how sensitive these areas are

    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go to someone else, if you can, you don't need to go through unnecessary suffering

    talieb
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    DON'T DO THE ABLATION! It was stunningly painful, not helpful, and I had to go home directly after I woke up. Ew.

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    #24

    I’ve had two babies. Both babies it was impossible for me to dilate. I’m talking days to weeks of contractions and early labor. When I got an IUD I threw up and passed out on the table. Dilating your cervix to insert an IUD is not just “pinch” for a lot of women.

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    Sheila Stamey
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let me equate this to something, so the men can understand. When a man takes a solid kick to the groin, they tend to fall down, lose breath ,cry and puke, sad they rightfully should. Now, if they had the choice of getting anesthesia before that, I'm sure they would take it.

    Laur Nie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After I got my IUD, the nurse said, "You didn't pass out. You didn't throw up. You did good." If I had known that it would be so painful, I would not have gotten it. Now I have 7 years to think about the pain I'll experience from having it removed.

    #25

    The worst pain I ever experienced was an IUD insertion, I'll never forget it. It was so bad I almost told them to stop. I ended getting it removed, the constant hormones just didn't agree with my body.

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    White Paper Tsuru
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Was supposed to get an hormone based IUD for dysmenorrhea, in the doctors office with no anesthetic, sedation, local pain control. I have a repeated history of severe exacerbation of depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation related to birth control hormone therapy. I also have a chronic neurological pain condition called vulvadynia where literally even the lightest touch of the vaginal opening causes 10/10 burning, writhing pain. (Pap smears are an annual torture session requiring anti-anxiety meds to reduce the pain and terror) having a local anesthetic DIRECTLY INJECTED didn't alter the pain sensation. I did not get the hormonal IUD. Doctor was like, well, whatever. I mean it's your choice.

    Lolabean
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an IUD before I had my son. Once he was born, as much as I loved the convenience of my IUD I knew I couldn't have go through any more trauma to my cervix.

    Momma Jess
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My cervix was so "stubborn" the doc had to go get a smaller tool to get my cervix to open up for an IUD insertion. Once he got going he had the balls to say "You must have a high pain tolerance!" and I quickly said "Yeah but trust me I feel it, get going" and afterwards while I was trying to reign in my blood pressure he handed me a dry washcloth, said "here, clean yourself up" and left me alone...I never went and had it rechecked...

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    #26

    I had a cystoscopy with no pain meds, and it was so [frigging] traumatizing. There I am, sitting and acting like everything’s okay and like it wasn’t the worst pain in the world. After, I go home and have to pee. I went into the shower to relax my body, and I couldn't [frigging] pee. The pain was insane. I sobbed for hours. They ended up prescribing something extra to help, but in the end, that single event of trying to pee left me so traumatized. It hurt to pee for a week. The initial shock, sitting there awake while they do it, and the, 'You may feel slight discomfort after' — after shoving a metal rod thicker than a pencil in my urethra — and I was trying to figure out why my bladder is so sensitive. I hate doctors so much.

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    Stephanie IV
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happened to me. Couldn’t speak for hours. Just sat and rocked back and forth.

    Beth Arriaga
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. Had that done too many times without anesthesia. I finally stood up for myself. And by standing up for myself, I mean I stood up in the stirrups and cold cocked the doctor. I screamed so loudly, my mother heard me in the waiting room. I had interstitial cystitis and endometriosis and only learned to say NO by reading forums online. I didn't know I was allowed to say no. I'm now 50 and no one touches me without proper pain meds. I can't even have a pelvic exam without general anesthesia. I'm that traumatized. But, I have - FINALLY- an understanding GYN urologist who actually gives a damn. I shouldn't be the rare patient who has a competent doctor. I should be the norm.

    Caroline Sinclair
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My urologist (lovely woman) has managed, after fighting for years, to make general anaesthesia the standard for cytoscopies in woman at her hospital. AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR MEN!

    Heather Yueng
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a cystoscopy when I was in college. The hospital was about 3/4 of a mile from campus. The health services would not provide transportation for me so I had to call for a taxi. After the procedure I was in a lot of pain and was still bleeding when I checked out. They refused to let me use the phone or give me change for the pay phone. I ended up walking back to campus and passing out in the stairwell.

    Adira Bennett
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had my second cystoscopy without anesthesia too. I specifically asked for anesthesia because my first doctor had provided that, but I was told I'd have to wait many weeks longer for the appointment if I wanted anesthesia and I would be fine getting the procedure without; it wouldn't really hurt. The doctor refused to believe me when I insisted the blood in my urine wasn't period blood, and made me look at an anatomical illustration so she could point out the difference between the vagina and urethra, as if I had not already shown clear comprehension of these terms previously. I was so angry I went to the restroom and cried after the whole painful ordeal. Many months later, a surgeon who operated on me for endometriosis photographically documented inflammation and hypersensitivity of my bladder tissue and diagnosed interstitial cystitis, a medical condition that frequently causes blood in the urine.

    Beth Arriaga
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm So sorry you had to go through this. IC is miserable. Miserable. A male urologist couldn't find out what was wrong and finally said that blood in my urine - along with clots- is just 'my normal'. I asked him if he pissed blood every day if he would accept the same diagnosis. Then I kept up my search for a better doctor. It took decades.

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    My O My
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They did this to me when I was a kid. Maybe 7. My parents pressed me down on the table and everyone was just saying "I know it feels like you have to pee". To this day I absolutely fear bladder catheters!

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    #27

    The worst is that since I’ve been an adult I’ve only had female gynos and they’ve ALL dismissed my pain. A colposcopy almost caused me to pass out. I thought I temporarily died during my iud insertion. I AM EXTRA SENSITIVE DOWN THERE. Why don’t they take it seriously? They act as though I’m dramatic or an anomaly. But obviously I (and all of us here) am not. BRING ON THE PAINKILLERS I SAY!

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    Sarah Tate
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the worst gynos I've had have been women. I finally ended up with a male doctor who is amazing and actually takes me seriously. I spent years suffering because those women told me I was "just being dramatic" or "that's just the way you are and you have to deal with it". It turns out I was riddled with endometriosis and fibroids. I don't want kids, but I couldn't have them anyway if I did because all that junk destroyed my tubes. It took almost 10 years to get a diagnosis and surgery to fix me. I'm still angry as hell about it even though I'm fine now and have been for a long time.

    Estelle Winwoode
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've found the same thing - female doctors are impatient with patients in pain. I guess they've never had the procedures themselves. I had to have a hysteroscopy (camera into the cervix) and the specialist's gyno in training, a woman, had a go first. She sprayed some topical anaesthetic there, then began, and the pain was shocking. Literally shocking - my heart started pounding and I nearly fainted. I could only gasp, not breathe normally. She stopped but the pain didn't stop at once and she snapped at me rudely that she'd stoped now, so there was no pain. Oh yes, there was. Another try, two weeks later, the professor, male, was very careful and used more anaesthetic. It was still shockingly painful but this time only for a moment, and he was kind and so was the nurse. That makes such a difference.

    Kerri Hudson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a female gynaecologist in the early 70's who digitally raped me. I was so young and naive that I wasn't aware that was what was happening. I thought she was extremely rough and didn't realise what the heavy breathing meant. I couldn't wait to leave her rooms and then found myself incapable of getting home because I was so shaken. I am now in my 70's and have only now seen another female gynaecologist.

    JD Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My worst have been the men. It’s my opinion that men shouldn’t be allowed. They have no ability to relate. None. Zero. I’ve also had a few angry bitter women (that didn’t have any kids of their own, no less) who didn’t “allow” you to feel pain. No idea what sort of issues that is from.

    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You should get put to sleep for a colonoscopy. I've literally never heard of anyone doing otherwise. It's necessary!

    Yup
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She had a colposcopy, not colonoscopy. For the former, I was given paracetamol. For the latter, Valium.

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    #28

    I hadn't had any other form of birth control and got an IUD placed. I had asked my doctor before the appointment if it was okay to drive myself home, and if there were any pain meds I could get. She told me all I would need was over-the-counter stuff. I nearly passed out during the insert from the pain. Once my head stopped spinning, I very carefully got myself to my car and started to drive home. It was incredibly painful. Our roads are s**t here, and every single bump I hit had me screaming in pain while trying to keep focus. I made it home and basically couldn't leave my bed for two days. Moral of the story, no, it's NOT okay to be told you can drive yourself home after your first IUD placement. It's also completely ridiculous that we are given no numbing or pain meds for a procedure that puts a foreign object in the most sensitive part of our bodies. Our bodies literally fight back against it being there.

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    Wendy Heath
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK, if a doctor behaved like this they would face malpractice charges.

    Yup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You would think that. I had arthrodesis (joint fusion) on my index finger and the surgeon said all that was needed was perhaps some paracetamol the next day. If it were IV paracetamol maybe, but not OTC! I ended up at Urgent Care and they gave me morphine.

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    Mazer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Watch the documentary The Bleeding Edge. It’s an eye opener!!

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    #29

    When I had a cervical biopsy they put me in “twilight sleep”. Or basically conscious sedation. I wasn’t totally unconscious but I wasn’t awake either. Had to have someone with me to make sure I got home. This was done through my local (US-Georgia) health department as I’m uninsured. Cost was negligible. They said they always offered the conscious sedation but many opted not to per the cost. I don’t understand why that is not always an option for gyno procedures. I’m assuming it’s a time/personel issue. And I guess as women we aren’t worth the cost of time or personel.

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    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It makes me sick that not being tortured is charged extra. How dare they- how dare anyone?

    JD Lee
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because if you have insurance they can opt not to cover it as it’s not “life saving”. So docs aren’t allowed to just do it anyway without prior approval… from what I understand. To confuse matters more.. If you have insurance, & tell the doc you want it anyway, & to just give you the pain treatment, they charge thousands of dollars. But…..Now wait for it…If you don’t have insurance you get the “cash price” of “included”, usually. No approval of any sort even needed.

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    #30

    I had no idea to expect pain for my colonoscopy. I thought that because they weren't numbing anything, it must not be bad. I started crying and screaming, and I couldn't keep my legs open. They ended up only doing a partial biopsy because I went hypotensive (blood pressure dropped). It angers me to this day. I have also had three IUDs, and my blood pressure tanks from the pain every time. I have to be monitored.

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    Carol Emory
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every colonoscopy I've ever taken a friend to, they knocked them out. Why not for you guys?

    Libstak
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same here, they are supposed to give you something to make you semi conscious and numb. They shouldn't knock you out completely as you may need to follow directions during the procedure. I never remember the procedure or feel any pain afterward.

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    JP
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got the easy "kind of knock you out" drugs for my colonoscopy. They didn't work. I was awake and talking to the doctor the entire procedure. I have a very high pain tolerance, so the pain was there, but in the background...ignorable...until they started removing the polyps. Then, I was screaming and trying to crawl off the table. They had to call three more people in and hold me down so they could finish. One nurse held her hand over my mouth. When I went in for my second colonoscopy, I insisted I be knocked out. The doctor tried to talk me out of that because "women don't feel the pain like men do." I got up, walked out of his office and never went back. I found a different doctor to do the procedure and explained what happened the first time. This doctor told me to expect to be knocked out and have a driver.

    Vladimíra Matejová
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my husband works with colonoskopy and he says women have it worse especially if tbey had hysterctomy. and also certain body types have it worse

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    ejfs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had my first colonoscopy without any drugs either and I honestly thought my intestines were being sliced open. Now I refuse to have any thing like that done UNLESS I am fully unconscious before they even start.

    LaGitanaTriste
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just saying, if you ever had pain while pooping and we all have, then OFCOURSE a colonoscopy will hurt. First, that hole is not made for insertion. And last, that hole is not made for insertion.

    Ashley Lynne
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. They refused to knock me out. I felt everything. It was traumatic

    Gini Sarver
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow here in WV you are wheeled into an operating room, given an amazing drug that puts you asleep the moment it hits your veins, no pain or anything afterwards worst part for myself is the iv

    pusheen buttercup
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand why they wouldn't put you out, I was put to sleep for mine and it should be the expectation to do so!

    Trish Smith
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in surgery. Patient was ALWAYS knocked out for a colonoscopy!!

    Nazda Pokmov
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I say I'll pass when my doctor wants to order one for me.

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    #31

    Another thing they don’t numb women for - at least they didn’t for me - surgical abortion. That was some of the worst pain I’ve experienced and all they gave me was an ativan for anxiety. I felt like it was partly to punish me/women for getting abortions… but then I heard about other women that went under for theirs! I imagine it probably depends on how far along you are but yeah

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    Mewton’s Third Paw
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had mine with an ibuprofen I think. It pinched when they inserted the suction and I almost backed out. There was a doula who held my hand and talked to me throughout. I’ve had worse pain for sure and I turned down the “twilight anesthesia” that was offered. 10/10 would do again, and without anesthesia. I think I was like 13 weeks maybe.

    #32

    I had an HSG done — they basically insert a tube into the vagina/cervix/uterus, inject dye, and see if your fallopian tubes are blocked and the shape of the uterus. It was the f**king worst. I was literally in agony and opted for exploratory surgery after they injected the dye for the third or fourth time. After uterine surgery, I had a balloon catheter in my uterus for two weeks. My body started having literal contractions to try to force it out. The doctor said I didn't need to be out of work. It was f**king hell. They told me to use ibuprofen and Tylenol at the max dose. It's insane how horrible pain care for women is.

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    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had this done and it is extremely painful. The dye makes your uterus contract, which was like the worst period cramps ever. And whilst that's happening they were investigating using an internal ultrasound.

    Cold Contagious
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a Ductogram once and it was pretty brutal. They take a set of blunt tipped plastic needle looking tools and start with smallest to largest and insert them into the tiny milk duct holes in your nipples on your breasts. They get it just inside and start twisting and turning it so they can open up the duct. The ending needle tool looks a little larger than a #2 pencil lead. Then they use a blunt tipped syringe and inject dye into many of the ducts on your nipple and then they take a mammogram of your breasts. They did this because I was having repeated cysts in my breasts. It will show where the ducts are blocked and some cysts. It really was pretty useless though. Ultrasounds showed them better. To date I've had 15 breast surgeries between both breasts due to cysts. They will start out the size of very small peas and grow suddenly to walnuts and cause massive infections. When I was 23 yrs my sis suggested I just cut them off. I told her no, I I'll keep fighting for them

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    #33

    I didn’t realize the IUD procedure was going to hurt bad until a nurse came in w the doctor just to hold my hand. Thank you, Planned Parenthood. It wasn’t much but it was something.

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    Amy Broderick
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same - except when the first attempt failed and I was screaming in pain THEN a nurse came in to hold my hand when they put it in on the second try.

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    #34

    I had two colposcopies with no pain meds. The first one was at planned parenthood and I had no idea what to expect. This young nurse stood next to me and started talking to me about random things and also about her boyfriend and asked me a few questions. I had no idea why she was sharing that info until I felt the first snip and then I understood. So I opened up and talked about my partner and we had a good conversation with an occasional sharp pain where I’d suck in my breath, and then continue the conversation. Colposcopies suck, by the way. I had my second one at the hospital and told the nurse there about my previous experience at planned parenthood, but this nurse wasn’t as talkative or willing to distract me because the doctor wanted her focus on him.

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    Cold Contagious
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had my colposcopy at 7 months pregnant. With no prior warning about what they would be doing. Was only told it'd be like a pap smear while looking through a high powered microscope. Seemed like the one they used was the size of a juvenile T-Rex hunkered down over my V-jay jay and even better, I was sent to the local university hospital so I had about 12 residents and nurses all gathered around it. Peering into the Colposcope and my V-jay jay for 45 minutes because there were many more cells than originally anticipated. It was horrible. I was crying, thought they'd send me into early labor. Out of nearly 15 people in the room for my actual nurses and doctors doing the procedure to all the residents, no one was kind or reassuring. I was also on bedrest except for 1 hour every 6 hours due to gestational hypertension and possible toxemia since 5 months. I was a wreck. I ended up being okay until I went into labor on the night before my due date and had to go thru the same hospital.

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    #35

    And no one talks about this too! I had no idea that when I was getting a cervix biopsy they were gonna just holepunch my insides without pain relief or anything. And when I asked the doctors about IUDs they downplayed it like crazy, I only heard about how bad and traumatizing it is from this sub, which is what stopped me from getting one. This really needs to be talked about more.

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    #36

    I had a C Section and was given only over the counter medication (there was some morphine in my spinal.) my husband got all kinds of pain relievers for his laparoscopic appendix removal. He also wasn’t expected to carry, care for and feed a baby boy immediately after release from the hospital.

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    VeninTheNonBinaryRogue
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The literally take a F*****G CHILD OUT OF YOUR BODY. WTF?!?!?!?!?

    Cold Contagious
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's common practice. I had 3 cesarean sections and that's all I got as well. A friend of mine had infection set up from meconium being left in her uterus and half of her cesarean scar burst open about a week and a half after she got home and they had to leave it open and clean it and pack it several times a day while caring for a newborn and no pain meds. It looked painful.

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    Grace Noyes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OTC for a C-section?!?! When I had one, I was on a demerol drip. OTC is not enough--you just got sliced open!

    Emma Eriksson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I only got Paracetamol after my emergency C-section! I was in so much pain, it’s literally one of the main reasons I’m not having any more kids. Also, during the C-section my epidural stopped working so I felt EVERYTHING and I literally had to beg them to put me under before they decided to do something about it.

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    #37

    I agree. I had a cervical biopsy and had to sit for an hour before I could leave the office. I’ve never felt anything like that.

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    #38

    I had a colposcopy yesterday that was definitely painful, and still sore today. No way in hell I'm willing to do that with out pain meds again. It was awful.

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    #39

    I agree! I had an IUD and a sample of my uterine lining taken both without anything other than aspirin. The nurse looked at me and said something to the effect that I obviously hadn’t had kids. As though that was the bar they were using for pain.

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    Anne
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, having had a kid makes your cervix more flexible, so in theory - insertion of an IUD is less painful for women that had a vaginal birth

    Patti Vance
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    decades ago, i had some issues that required a colonoscopy. they put me on an L shaped table, strapped me across the back & tipped the table up so my butt was in the air-obviously to make it easier for the doc. then, she (yes...SHE) she started the procedure without any form of medication. i was vocal on how uncomforatable & when it felt like they were going to poke through my belly button screamed at them to stop. fast forward to the age of needing regular checks for colon cancer. asked the the doc if they would give me something or we could cancel as i was not going to go through that again. he was aghast at the thought of a doc performing the exam without anything for the patient. under his care the worst part was the prep for it and afterwards was ready for lunch.

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