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There is a vast valley with steep slopes and a raging river winding its way through the bottom that separates the people who are genuinely nice and those who only proclaim themselves to be ‘nice.’ Most of us know from experience that guys who are actually nice act very differently than those who are ‘nice guys.’

However, this post isn’t about nice guys. No, this one is about nice girls. Or rather—‘nice girls’ who believe they’re entitled to ‘perfect’ partners while dripping with hatred for the world and showing their true colors when things don’t go their way. In fact, there’s a place where they get called out: the r/Nicegirls subreddit that proves that fake ‘niceness’ knows no gender boundaries. See for your yourselves, dear Pandas. Be sure to read on for Bored Panda's interview with one of the moderators of the subreddit, user CTFOE_is_Free.

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What A Sweetheart

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Selfishness and altruism aren't as black and white as you might think. According to research, human history has shown that some forms of selfishness can be considered to be "healthy" while some altruism can be "pathological." Healthy selfishness led to higher levels of psychological well-being and a "genuine prosocial orientation." Meanwhile, pathological altruism was associated with vulnerable narcissism and selfish motivations for helping others. If that sounds familiar, it's the scientific basis for the difference between nice and 'nice.'

Moderator CTFOE_is_Fee told Bored Panda that the reason why some women are 'nice girls' is a combination of a few factors. "Some of them are too immature to realize what they're doing. Others are that manipulative on purpose. Lastly, some do not even realize what they're doing," they explained.

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But Why? Smh Entitled Queens Lol

But Why? Smh Entitled Queens Lol

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This kind of messaging is why men think they should try harder, and how you create an unsafe feeling for a lot of woman. Because a man will take away from this that no means yes. And that you have to keep trying, even though the woman made clear that she is not into you. It's a dangerous game to play!

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Half Way

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Nah. It's a man who can't be bothered to make an effort to pursue a woman romantically. He said from the get-go he expected jer to drive to him. He actually expected her to deliver her to himself like a damned pizza. Low effort, low value. Never a good sign. Plenty of men out there who aren't trying to cheap out on the gas, and know how to romance a woman properly. He can stay home alone and cry about it.

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Daria B
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to add, this is also true for platonic friendships. Had a "friend" who'd see me only if it's convenient for her, even if I'd go well out of my way for her. It didn't take me long to figure, I'm too old for this.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate when people do that. I have been living in this country four years and I am still waiting for most of my friends and family to ever visit. I only got three visits (my parents for three days and my best friend that is awesome). But then they complain if I dont visit or go to their weddings.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“If a dude doesn’t want to come to me for the first date, he’ll never come for a relationship.” - Jokes on you girl, it’s easy to make a man come. (Ba dum tssss)

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Dio
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not his duty to serve a woman, especially someone he doesn't know! This is too funny. He sounds like a good person and he definitely dodged a bullet there!

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bryguy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Coffee and a walk is the perfect first date. Park somewhere close so if you don't like the date, you are out on the walk and oh what do you know, here's my car. Have a good day! Byeee.

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Dilly Millandry
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. It's about getting to know a person, not who can impress by spending money or got to a huge amount of effort that probably won't be sustained. Simple things, sharing common interests and humour.

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Nikki Sevven
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really hope we can move away from this dichotomy as the older generations leave us. Old school parents taught their sons to pay and their daughters to demand. This reinforces the idea of women as property, and is really no better than prostitution. If you want to be treated like a human being, ladies, don't act like trophies.

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Eglė Bukauskaitė
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i would've said no because i would want a safe and public place for a first date O.o

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Ms LaDonna
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

he 100% not worth your time. there are better matches near you.

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Leeh Colorada
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Going to someone's place for first time is dangerous, bringing them to yours can be worse. Mid place is better

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Debrina Blackmoon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ok, is it weird that I just want to sort of "adopt" these men as my new brothers???

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Lana Belysheva
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From personal experience... virtually met a man on a dating site, who was in town for Formula1. It was his last day in Montreal, I was busy so we didn't meet that time in person. He is from California... He then flew 3000 miles to meet with me. He showed effort, and he is now my husband. A man who is committed will not complain about driving extra 20 minutes.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, if it's a first date it is a matter of safety also! I would never drive to an area too far from home where I don't know anyone and nobody could reach me fast if something happens...and yes I expect from the man to come on the first date because let's be honest women are facing more dangers dating a stranger! Talking only about first dates when you don't know the person

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Concetta Varano
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think a woman asking a man to come to her on a first date is more about safety. A woman is going to feel safer and be safer closer to home. It is unfortunate that men are treated like potential rapist until they prove they are not, but meeting with someone who is bigger and stronger than you is scary.

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No lies detected from her. He wants her to drive to him? LOL, no. Just no. If a man isn't trying to impress YOU, he is just playing a numbers game and just fishing for whatever will be the least effort for him, and will be a lazy m**o in the relationship if it ever gets to that point. And women give way more than half in a relationship, and everyone knows it. So no, don't waste makeup or effort on a dude who is too lazy to drive to you. Save all the goodies, time, attention, love, and appreciation for the man who is showing you his effort. Men never value what they can get easily, but they will throw a f*ck into the gal who makes it easy for him, just because. Don't drive to a man. Never be that grateful or desperate, ladies. Let him go find his easy-peasy 50/50 gal. You go find the man who knows and appreciates the wonderful things having a woman in his life brings, and will treat you accordingly

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The Cat Isn’t What He Should Be Getting Rid Of

The Cat Isn’t What He Should Be Getting Rid Of

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cat has been there before her and judging by her being jealous of a cat, the cat will be there after she's gone

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We were curious to find out where the line between genuine niceness and fake 'niceness' was for the moderator. Here's what they had to say: "Personally, for me, the line is drawn when you can tell that someone is being passive-aggressive; when you can sense the subdued maliciousness in their words and actions. If your gut is telling you that something is not genuine about the person then they probably are not genuine. I think we've all experienced a few relationships like that in our lives. I do not see there being a large grey area between the two. You know when someone is being kind or not."

According to CTFOE_is_free, one of the things that new members need to keep in mind if they decide to join up is to read and follow the subreddit rules. "We have a strict No doxxing policy, as we work to respect and protect the privacy of the subjects of the content as well as that of the posters."

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I Went On One Date With This Girl And She Spent The Whole Time On Her Phone Drinking Coffee I Bought Her

I Went On One Date With This Girl And She Spent The Whole Time On Her Phone Drinking Coffee I Bought Her

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A Message To All Nice Girls Who Might Have A Screw Loose

A Message To All Nice Girls Who Might Have A Screw Loose

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or maybe... confront him and talk about it ? Then make a decision ? I understand this is meant as a kind of joke with a twist, but it's not good advice, either way.

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According to the creators of the subreddit, the 'Nice Girls' community is like the ‘Nice Guys’ online group, but different in that they focus on women instead. Bored Panda has even written about them before. You can check out that post right over here once you’re done enjoying this list. Spoiler alert: proclaiming that you’re nice doesn’t make it so. The proof is in how you act, not the mild-mannered facade you show the world.

“For all the self-proclaimed ‘nice girls.’ For the women who complain ‘guys are only interested in [promiscuous women].’ For women who complain that men are shallow for not dating overweight women, while also demanding that their man have washboard abs. For the women who hold others to the highest possible standard, but have no standards for themselves,” the r/Nicegirls creators explain what their group is all about.

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A Nicegirl Daydream

A Nicegirl Daydream

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Now That's A Logical Leap

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Laughter is not good for my tummy pain right now, but that reply was funny as heck.

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The main focus of the subreddit is to shame these ‘nice girls’ in all their glory through images, articles, videos, and everything else. “This sub is not for female incels. This place is not for crazy girls. If you swap the genders and it doesn't belong on r/niceguys, then don't post it,” they explain.

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What’s more, the moderators point out that their community is “not a women hating subreddit.” They encourage members to be polite and “refrain from making sexist comments or being a bigot.” They have a zero-tolerance policy regarding things like that, so mind your manners. Yes, there’s a certain unsurprising irony there that a group about shaming people who are supposedly ‘nice’ actually requires folks to be nice.

However, just because r/Nicegirls deems these women worthy of being shamed doesn’t mean that they’re having an all-out war with them. Members of the group can’t post any identifying information about people: this way, they’re protected from internet users who might want to criticize them or insult them. After all, just because someone’s ‘nice’ now doesn’t mean that they’re not learning to be actually, genuinely nice. I’m a big believer that people can change if they set their minds to it.

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So You Know It's Wrong, But You Did It Anyway?

So You Know It's Wrong, But You Did It Anyway?

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh boy, and I bet that she still doesn't get the irony after being called out on it.

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So I Broke My Leg, And She Wanted To Go On A Date....

So I Broke My Leg, And She Wanted To Go On A Date....

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"I Just Said Goodnight, But I'm Gonna Throw A Tantrum If You Say Goodnight Back"

"I Just Said Goodnight, But I'm Gonna Throw A Tantrum If You Say Goodnight Back"

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah coz men can read our minds and know exactly how we are feeling. How about stop playing games and tell him.

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Urban Dictionary defines 'nice girls' as women who believe they're the best choice to be someone's girlfriend. They're deemed by the internet to be manipulative, have self-esteem issues, and can be passive-aggressive. They also have problems with jealousy and being self-centered. Especially if rejected.

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The "I Don't Want Anything" Classic

The "I Don't Want Anything" Classic

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh another one playing stupid Games. If you say you don't want something then expect to not get it.

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Spanish Girls Are Her #1 Enemy

Spanish Girls Are Her #1 Enemy

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We Have The FBI And Then We Have This

We Have The FBI And Then We Have This

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What an absolute f*****g bitch. There is no sugar coating how I feel about people doing s**t like this.

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Usually, 'nice girls' are women who get others to pity her into dating her. In short, they're the female version of 'nice guys,' with all the drama and seething hatred you'd expect to see from them. Both 'nice girls' and 'nice guys' feel like they deserve to be in a relationship with anyone that they want or anyone that so much as smiles at them.

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Double Standards Are Great !

Double Standards Are Great !

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There’ll Be Blizzard In Hell Before I Stop Eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch For Breakfast

There’ll Be Blizzard In Hell Before I Stop Eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch For Breakfast

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They also believe that the world owes them what they want just because they're 'well-mannered.' The moment things go south and they don't get what they want, they rage at the world and proclaim that it's not fair that things are this way. Whereas a genuinely nice person is kind to others without expecting a reward, a self-proclaimed 'nice girl' or 'nice guy' hides the fact that they're really just after the reward. Usually, the reward they have in mind is romantic or [ahem] something more.

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I'm Sure Nick Appreciates Your Support!

I'm Sure Nick Appreciates Your Support!

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My Ex Girlfriend Wanted To Meet For A Drink And I Said No As I Was Visiting My Terminally Ill Grandmother. She Said My Grandmother Was Lucky Be Dying Because She Would Be Ashamed Of Me. Then Put This Message On Her Instagram

My Ex Girlfriend Wanted To Meet For A Drink And I Said No As I Was Visiting My Terminally Ill Grandmother. She Said My Grandmother Was Lucky Be Dying Because She Would Be Ashamed Of Me. Then Put This Message On Her Instagram

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The Gentleman’s Journal suggests that the difference between nice and ‘nice’ depends on how honest we are with ourselves about our intentions. For instance, they explain that you should be generous, but that you shouldn’t use your generosity as a bargaining chip for other things. That means that why you’re doing something is just as important as the fact that you’re doing it.

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Don't Get Me What I Ask For

Don't Get Me What I Ask For

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Come on, you cant be THAT unappreciative! You should be grateful you even have a boyfriend with that attitude

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My Ex Sent Death Treats To Me On My Birthday, This Was What Happened Afterwardss

My Ex Sent Death Treats To Me On My Birthday, This Was What Happened Afterwardss

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One thought in particular raised by the Gentleman’s Journal stuck in my mind: “Do be kind. But don’t do it just because you think you ought to.” The implication here is simple: being kind is vital. However, making the decision to be kind because you believe it’s the right thing to do is the key here.

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Nice Girls Don’t Exi-

Nice Girls Don’t Exi-

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's insane, I think she needs professional help. Super stalkerish. Hopefully she was charged.

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Being nice, polite, and kind just because you feel pressured to doesn’t make you nice. It makes you ‘nice.’ After all, kindness under duress isn’t really kindness, is it? But what do you think, dear Pandas? Why do you think ‘nice girls’ and ‘nice guys’ act the way that they do? Where do you think the line between actual kindness and fake kindness lies? Can we tell which is which from a distance? Share your thoughts with everyone else in the comments below.

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Okay, Thats Not Toxic At All

Okay, Thats Not Toxic At All

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It's Only Okay If I Can Go Through Your Phone

It's Only Okay If I Can Go Through Your Phone

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't trust your partner and have to go through their phone then maybe it's the wrong relationship for you or you need help with getting over your trust issues.

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Damn... I Don‘T Even Know Her

Damn... I Don‘T Even Know Her

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It’s Almost Like They’re There To Workout?

It’s Almost Like They’re There To Workout?

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... they are focused on working out at the gym? I have never heard of that before

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#36

The Truth Comes Out. My Former Best Friend, Who I Ended Up Dating And Then It Killed Off Our Friendship When Things Went South

The Truth Comes Out. My Former Best Friend, Who I Ended Up Dating And Then It Killed Off Our Friendship When Things Went South

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Feel Like This Belongs Here

Feel Like This Belongs Here

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And Breaking Worth 40$ Isn't Cruel?

And Breaking Worth 40$ Isn't Cruel?

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, keep on telling yourself that after your boyfriend breaks up with you, and you're sitting home alone fuming.

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#39

This Is The Second Time I've Ever Talked To Her, What The Hell

This Is The Second Time I've Ever Talked To Her, What The Hell

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Nice Girl Has Trouble With Her Spelling

Nice Girl Has Trouble With Her Spelling

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