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Person Who Deals With A Lot Of Flat Earthers Shares Their Tactic To “Convert” Them
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Person Who Deals With A Lot Of Flat Earthers Shares Their Tactic To “Convert” Them

A recent poll from Insider has shown that a third of Americans believe in at least one unscientific idea, from the Illuminati to extraterrestrials visiting Earth. Believing that our Earth is flat is one of those common conspiracies that the science community, from physicists to astronomers, find ludicrous.

But in the age of the internet, advanced biotechnologies, gene engineering, and AI, many people genuinely believe it. In fact, a YouGov survey found that just 66% of young adults, aged 18 to 24, have “always believed the world is round.”

The great challenge in tackling the flat Earth conspiracy is knowing how to talk to people who genuinely believe that the Earth is flat. And this viral Twitter thread offers an invaluable lecture on that.

Written by an Oklahoma-based astronomy educator, Okie Space Queen, the thread reveals how they take their portable planetarium to show the universe to people in rural areas. Let’s see the particular arguments the author arms themself with to convince flat Earth believers they are in fact wrong.

The author of the viral thread carries this portable planetarium to teach people astronomy, and often they encounter flat earthers

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Armed with wit and astronomy knowledge, the author uses these useful tactics to talk to flat earth believers

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Flat Earth conspiracy is part of an ongoing trend of general skepticism and disbelief in authorities

To find out more about what makes people believe that the Earth is flat, Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Chris Fleming, an associate professor at the School of Humanities and Communication Arts in Wester Sydney University.

“There’s a generalized skepticism towards all established authorities, so this is sort of an old historical trend that you can trace back to the European enlightenment. Part of what it did was questioning authority.” But with flat Earth conspiracy, that kind of skepticism towards institutions has become insane.

“Most of our knowledge of scientific theories comes through institutions. None of us go around independently verifying laws of physics or effectiveness of drugs. We take it from institutions and experts, we only got indirect evidence,” the professor explained.

Moreover, “Partly the way that people end up disbelieving in science is a questions of the trust in human beings placed in institutions,” Fleming said and added that “Just as people become increasingly suspicious of the government, often for a good reason, and suspicious about science, sometimes with good reason, then you have this idea that I am going not believe these kind of things.”

“And that can become a kind of syndrome, this notion that you’re being lied to by authorities. So in a way, it’s a particular crazy expansion of an otherwise quite healthy attitude,” he added.

‘Democratized’ knowledge that allows anyone with social media to put out their theories is also to blame

Another reason why people believe in such a crazy idea is having naive relationships to our experiences. “In a lot of instances you have people looking out at the world, and they go: ‘kinda looks pretty flat to me.’ That kind of approach to the world is pretty effective on some levels, like seeing if you’ve got milk and you open a fridge and have a look.”

However, for assessing the curvature of the Earth, it’s not such a good strategy. “This is partly the effect of things like democratization of knowledge, since anyone with a social media account can put out their own theories, and stack it with their dubious footnotes and make it look serious,” Fleming concluded.

And this is what people had to comment on the illuminating thread that has gone viral

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Chewie Baron
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1 year ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if the Earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything off the side by now.

Marcellus the Third
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1 year ago

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No, they have the "northpole" in the centre and a giant wall of ice around the edge; cats don't go to the cold to push stuff uphill. What they can never explain it plane timetables; you can get relative distances from times; carriers save money where they can so flying hours for no reason and getting light/dark right is just not possible; they draw their maps but can never explain flights AU--Africa or AU--S-America or AU--EastAsia taking similar time etc.

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Geoffers
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1 year ago

Great. Marvellous. Fantastic. For the last 15 months of lockdown my savings account has taken an absolute hammering from me going online and buying all sorts of crazy stuff that I don't need, just for something to do (I'm sure there's a few other Pandas who can relate, right?). Then just as things are starting to ease off and improve, I read this article, and boom - now I need to go back on Amazon and search for inflatable planetariums. And I can't even get away with a cheap one, because when my wife sees the enormous package arrive she's going to kick me out of my house, so I need a good quality blow up planetarium because I'm gonna be living in the damn thing for a few months...

Bruce Mills
Community Member
1 year ago

Unless you HAVE to, for your job(ie running a planetarium), would anyone seriously want to try and educate someone that the earth isnt flat? I cant imagine a harder or more pointless endeavour - they're adults, and they still believe it enough to try and argue with people about it.

Justin Patel
Community Member
1 year ago

Exactly. I even made a video supporting those silly theories using a globe and a flat surface. Nothing was able to stay on the globe because it was round. But it would stay firmly planted on a flat surface. Thus, the earth is flat. Let them live in their own heads.

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Chewie Baron
Community Member
1 year ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if the Earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything off the side by now.

Marcellus the Third
Community Member
1 year ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

No, they have the "northpole" in the centre and a giant wall of ice around the edge; cats don't go to the cold to push stuff uphill. What they can never explain it plane timetables; you can get relative distances from times; carriers save money where they can so flying hours for no reason and getting light/dark right is just not possible; they draw their maps but can never explain flights AU--Africa or AU--S-America or AU--EastAsia taking similar time etc.

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Geoffers
Community Member
1 year ago

Great. Marvellous. Fantastic. For the last 15 months of lockdown my savings account has taken an absolute hammering from me going online and buying all sorts of crazy stuff that I don't need, just for something to do (I'm sure there's a few other Pandas who can relate, right?). Then just as things are starting to ease off and improve, I read this article, and boom - now I need to go back on Amazon and search for inflatable planetariums. And I can't even get away with a cheap one, because when my wife sees the enormous package arrive she's going to kick me out of my house, so I need a good quality blow up planetarium because I'm gonna be living in the damn thing for a few months...

Bruce Mills
Community Member
1 year ago

Unless you HAVE to, for your job(ie running a planetarium), would anyone seriously want to try and educate someone that the earth isnt flat? I cant imagine a harder or more pointless endeavour - they're adults, and they still believe it enough to try and argue with people about it.

Justin Patel
Community Member
1 year ago

Exactly. I even made a video supporting those silly theories using a globe and a flat surface. Nothing was able to stay on the globe because it was round. But it would stay firmly planted on a flat surface. Thus, the earth is flat. Let them live in their own heads.

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