A fallacy is an error in reasoning, created either unintentionally during a debate or argument, or sometimes intentionally in order to deceive someone. They are good to know as we spend more and more time arguing with strangers on the internet, it is more than likely tat you have been guilty of one of these common fallacies at some stage!
With truth becoming an increasingly elusive concept in these days of fake news, denial of science and appeal to partisan emotions over logic, being able to spot these fallacies is also an important skill to have. Logan Murphy, from San Francisco, has helpfully compiled a list of the most common fallacies, in easily digestible and humorous illustrations. “They took a bit to make but it was a fun project,” he told Bored Panda. “I was hoping to hit the sweet spot between humor and truth.”
Logan, who has an associate's degree in philosophy, says his inspiration for the illustrations came from working in customer service. “Customers use them a lot in an attempt to get things,” he explained. “I’m never able to call them on what they are doing, so this started out as me venting!”
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This is also done other way round. I am XYZ therefore ABC. Like "I am a doctor. Vaccinations are bad". Being in a certain profession does not necessarily mean that you are right.
That's actually a separate category of fallacy - argument from authority (argumentum ad verecundiam).
Load More Replies...regarding the "Appeal to authority", I assume that what you are saying is that "expert" in quotes is not an actual expert and therefore lacks credibility. So my conclusion is that it is OK to rely on the conclusions of actual verified experts, assuming there are clearly defined criteria for expertise?
Alright... please... help me... I'm obviously not understanding. Ad Hominem, I get it... the appeal to authority ... I'm ... not quite understanding. So someone has the opinion (okay, let's pick something obvious) "I have the opinion that a virus is an imaginary thing and really it's little ghosts inhabiting your blood when you get a cold"... and you respond with something along the lines of "the [medical] doctor/Medical Textbook/Reliable medical science source says otherwise, and here is the information behind it" - how is that a fallacy? I would be appealing to authority... obviously because I don't know as much... about a thing - how else ... would... one ... go about it...? I'm missing something. Please help.
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This is the exact description of Religion. And the right to have guns in the US.
I’m on #2 but I can guarantee that all of these fallacies are used in defense of various religions.
Load More Replies...I love that kind of argument...our ancestors would never have come down from their trees if they have stick to what had "always been".
i love a good theologigal, political and ethnical argument all at once
Load More Replies...@diane a yea the constitution didn't give "nutters age 17 the right to buy and bear arms" either. You obviously know precisely jack and s**t about our constitution from way over there in England and way up there on that high horse, so do a little research before you toss some b******t out.
Oh, the difficulty some have to see that repeating the same mistake over and over again does not make it right!
So it’s like “oh this is the way X has done it for years therefore we will do it”
It's hilarious the way you hypocrites are using just about every logical fallacy in your arguments against religion and gun rights. Also, it's clear you know very little on either subject.
Actually it's only a fallacy (appeal to authority) when either the thing disputed is not something factual (ie it's, say, an opinion of taste) or when the 'authority' is not one, at least for the relevant statement.
Appeal to authority seems not as questionable. If there is an expert or multiple experts and they went to school long enough and studied long enough and put out peer reviewed papers and have followed the scientific method then they are who we appeal to. I have done this multiple times defending science and medicine... Because there are people out there who believe in snake oil, fairy dust and government conspiracy and hurt those around them with their stupidity. If I can't reference a peer reviewed double blind study, what then should I reference?
"Vaccinations cause autism. I know someone who has autism and was vaccinated."...
And we all know someone that died and had drink water at least once in this/her life! Water is dangerous! Stop drinking water!
Load More Replies..."my religion is the only one that right, as in this holy book" i heard that a lot in this country
This one is also called "Omission", because it means leaving out certain facts.
I have a friend who used this technique that eating truffles caused a person to have tooth problems, specifically braces or needing to get wisdom teeth removed.
"my religion is the only one that right, as in my holy book" i heard that a lot in this country
And this, in a nutshell, is why people believe in a flat Earth...
I think flat Earthers are stupid and dangerous too, but I don't think it has to do with this one. It takes some really f****d up mental gymnastics to actually manage to believe Flat Earth Theory. I think it's actually harder than just trusting science
Load More Replies...As long as they die and burn in hell alone, I applaud too. But there are opinions that are dangerous (leading to violence or impacting kids health) and those ones drive me mad!
Load More Replies...Thus throwing the KISS argument under the bus. Except scientifically it's often true....
On the other hand: if you really understand it yourself, you must be able to explain it in easy language. Using complex words is also a way to try to win an argument, hoping the other person will think you are really smart and therefore are probably right... 🤨🧐
This one's not necessarily so bad. Being able to explain yourself so that others can understand you is a valued virtue. Besides, the opposite often works too - say something complicated enough using long smart words and someone ought to buy it because "don't get it but sounds smart so must be true".
Another way i see this is when someone acts like their ignorance-formed opinion is equal to fact-based knowledge. Opinions and beliefs, no matter how sincerely held, aren't sacrosanct. "Your ignorance is not equal to my knowledge".
Your explanation is incorrect. This fallacy is not about ignorance vs. knowledge. This fallacy is about *understanding* another person's argument (or not understanding it). . . . and deciding that "my lack of understanding = your incorrectness".
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Ahh... this is the argument my mother used... to blame me for my father getting food poisoning halfway around the world. They were on vacation in Asia, I was in Canada... I got a snake as a pet (small, they'd never even see it), and my dad got food poisoning around the same 24 hour period... and my mother told me, with *no irony and with all seriousness* that it is because I got the snake that my dad got sick.... in Asia. When he was with her... so I was obviously trying to be malicious...
I don't know about this one in the story of creation the Earth was spoken into existence. There is power in our words positive and negative. Some have more power than others. What if someone spoke you should just kill yourself and then followed it up by tearing them down for a period of time. That may cause someone to commit suicide.
just like the whole "vaccines cause autism" debate, the age where autism becomes noticeable is at about 22 months old. The vaccine schedules at the time of the so-called "study" meant that some got vaccines at 18, 20 and even 22 months. so parents would get their kids vaccinated and then find out their kid has autism, and would just link the two.
Heh, where I live (in the northwest of England, UK) a "trump" is slang for a fart, so the windy connection makes perfect sense! Why all the hurricanes? Because President Trump-ed!
Load More Replies...The irony is that I have seen some conservatives use this argument against the left, while defending literal Neo-nazis.
ANTIFA, SJW's, extreme liberals and leftwingers in a nutshell.
Lately I see the opposite: You compared X to Nazi Germany therefore your argument is invalid. This is just as bad of course.
If conservatives are allowed to pivot every conversation with a left winger to “you just want to turn us into Venezuela / Cuba / the USSR, then I see nothing wrong with bringing Hitler up as a counterpoint. A stupid argument deserves a stupid rebuttal. I don’t bring up Hitler personally but maybe if conservatives wouldn’t demonize everything even remotely related to socialism, this wouldn’t be as big of an issue. It takes two to tango.
Arguing with religious people in a nutshell. People used to believe that gods lived on high mountains, under the earth and in other places we hadn't gotten to yet, then we explored those places and didn't find gods, so it turns out the gods were in the sky the whole time, but then we went into space and there were no such creatures there, so it turns out they ACTUALLY always lived on a different plane of reality and you can never go there to get evidence that they exist.
Not really. Esoteric religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism etc.) always stated that supernatural beings live on some other plane of existence and thus attempt to disprove such claim by empirical reasoning is comparing apples to oranges. For that reason, no one proved existence of god(s) but no one also proved its non-existence. And no one probably ever will.
Load More Replies...Continually changing criteria is another example of moving the goalposts. In the case of antivaxxers, every time they are presented with proof of vaccines' safety, they challenge another element.
Im seeing all these posts saying one opinion is totally wrong BRUH HOW IRONIC. EVERYBODY HAS OPINIONS SO RESPECT IT IF YOU WANT OTHERS TO RESPECT YOURS.
These are the kinds of arguments being used against Judge Kavanagh now. The Democrats keep moving the goalposts to keep a vote from happening.
Global warmists vs sceptics - No logic, no new evidence, no new science (or established) will be accepted if it contradicts the set religion of co2.
Metaphorical goalposts, using sports imagery to provide a common reference. Most people are familiar with football or soccer games, where the players have a fixed scoring point. Imagine how frustrating it would be to play if your opponent was constantly saying, "That's not the goal, it's [here]," and changing the location every single time!
Load More Replies...This should probably be rephrased, as some "personal experience" can disprove certain types of argument. Take the classical proposition from several centuries ago that all swans were white. It only took one black swan to disprove that hypothesis - if the refuter had seen and evidenced that sighting, the original argument is lost. The issue here is confabulating "opinion" with "experience" - another logical fallacy, as it happens...
I think it's obvious that an opinion sans evidence can be refuted by a personal experience. This meme needs some reworking.
As Dian Ella Lillie wrote - personal experience can and does disprove arguments that are based on large quantifiers (every, always etc.). It is useless when small quantifiers are used. Also, 'anecdotal evidence' is just a form of generalisation.
See most people who claim they "felt god". The human brain can do a lot of wacky things when you really want it to verify your already-existing beliefs. Feeling something that you interpret as the "touch" of a spiritual being isn't evidence of that being's existence because the anecdote is an untestable claim.
The reason why one personal experience doesn't matter is because it could be the exception.
A personal experience matter, even if it's an exception. It can point out a problem, a malfunction, anything that can be improved. It can confirm other personal experiences. It can be used to illustrate a statement. But it must remain what it is: a personal experience. Not a generality, not a rule. Personal experience can (not all) be interesting but in most circonstances, this is not enough to be an argument.
Load More Replies...The burden is on the claimant. Or is it just that there IS a burden of proof not being addressed by any arguer? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
Load More Replies...This is not what 'burden of proof' means. The expression is a legal term meaning the necessity of providing evidence to corroborate testimony and is usually followed by 'lies by' (or similar) indicating who is obliged to provide such evidence. In common parlance it is an abbreviation of the expression 'burden of proof lies with the author', i.e. it is the author of the hypothesis who needs to corroborate it with evidence (or, tautologically, 'claim is not considered proven until it is proven' not 'claim is proven until disproved'). What we have here is a type of false dilemma, namely the assumption that existence of proof is required for an argument to be valid or not. This assumption is not true, because veracity of statement is based on truth, not any other statement. Thus, if an argument can't be corroborated with facts, but is not disproved, it does not need to be false - it may be truth or not, we just do not know which is the case until evidence to or against appears.
You utterly cannot disprove something which never existed.other than in the mind of the beholder. How is it possible to disprove something that never happened, There is no truth, reason or sanity in the mind of a sociopath
Load More Replies...One of the prime arguments that religious people use to "prove" god exists.
A God only exists in the imagination of frightened people - He controls the world- worship Him and you will be safe. From the Incas to the Aztecs, from the Bhuddists to Islam to Catholics - Religeon is the root of all the evil and persecution in the world
Load More Replies...actually both sides must have the ultimate evidence for their arguments, nobody will never be free from the burden of proof.
To a degree. You have no burden to disprove what was never proven to begin with. If someone makes a claim and refuses to back it up, then you have no burden whatsoever to discredit it. Because it was never credited to begin with.
Load More Replies...Not to mention that it's almost impossible to prove absence.
Load More Replies...The fallacy here is when the person making the claim shifts the burden of proof to the opposing side. In a trial, the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. So it is when it comes to a claim. It’s not true until it’s proven to be true. Of course, in every day life, we can accept many claims at face value because in our experience, they occur regularly and we have no reason to doubt them. We can also place our trust in people whom we know to be reliable, even if their account seems extraordinary. However there are certain things, like the existence of god, or the truth of a particular religion, which are so far beyond the human experience that the burden of proof is even heavier on the person making the claim. For that person to then turn around and insist that it’s on the disbeliever to prove that God doesn’t exist is a major fallacy. Because we could go a million years and never see or hear a peep from god, but that’s doesn’t *technically* prove anything.
No it's not. Burden of proof isn't a fallacy, it's a concept. It is the requirement that a participant in a discussion prove evidence for a claim. Shifting the burden of proof is demanding that someone else provide evidence when they don't have a requirement to yet (such as making a claim, then demanding the other person proof it wrong when you haven't provided evidence that it was right to begin with). This is just argument from silence.
Mostly Religous apologists, Flat Earthers and Creationists use all those tactics because they cannot support their asinine, moronic claims with any scientific fact.
You are seriously asking for scientific facts from religion? Religion is, by definition, faith. And faith is the belief in things that cannot be proven. Therefore, to ask religion to prove itself using science, or actually to prove itself at all, is asinine.
Load More Replies...Hmmmm....a little Latin is not enough to make this smart. Move along, nothing to see here.
Fox news again, especially carlson and hannity. "What about, what about, what about."
In the dictionary of this fallacy there's a oicture of Ben Shapiro.
Wasn't it Paul Merton who did a bit about this (ca. 1991 - 1993)? "So you don't like toast, hm? What do you want to eat? HUMAN EXCREMENTS?"
I have seen many internet arguers call their opponents using this fallacy, wrongly. There is a huge problem with the use of this 'fallacy'(of how people call out other people for it), sometimes the called out person is actually correct, sometimes an argument can indirectly mean something else. Sometimes the argument is clearly represented, but the person who said the statement calls out the critic for using a straw man argument and posting a comment that is quite similar to his original argument, but different enough to make the critics argument wrong, if he actually said that first hand. In my experience of internet arguments, specially in Reddit. Calling out others for using a fallacy is a more successful way to win an argument than using a fallacy itself. Many internet arguers have greater knowledge of fallacies and how to falsely label the other person than the knowledge of the subject they are arguing about itself.
This would be most of the posters on here, who oversimplify religious perspectives, in order to trivialize them without really addressing their complexities.
"Let me ask you something. In Nazi Germany, when people saw what the nazis were doing and did nothing, were those good people?" "No, you gotta stop the nazis" "But you SAW what they were doing to Tyler, and did nothing." "I was over on the bench!"
Goosestepping to a symbol instead of housing vets disrespects your troops.
Load More Replies...Basically Ben Shapiros whole basis for his arguments. I swear if he talked slower more people would pick up on it and would be able to debate him better.
Nah, Ben Shapiro always counters with fact and figures and reasoning within his own perspective, the guy does his research on topics and has a well above average IQ. I'd like to see him evenly matched in a debate, but the guy is hard to keep pace with, it has zero to do with "argument tricks", though thats a very easy way to try to discredit him.
Load More Replies...Im pretty sure it was for the people who were shot by the police for no reason
Load More Replies...KSI on the left, Logan Paul on the right (What they were saying, not my personal opinion, don't get triggered)
UGH! Do not bring such a little boys name upon thy facility!
Load More Replies..."If abortion gets regulated, all women will abort their babies and soon humanity will go extinct! Won't someone think of the children?! :( "
Hell, I've heard the argument that if abortion before birth would be allowed now, it's only a matter of time before abortion after the birth of the baby would also be allowed.
Load More Replies..."If two men are allowed to marry, what's next? Can I marry my guinea pig? Seriously, because I want to marry my guinea pig." (Parks and Rec reference)
There are already people trying to legalize b********y, it may happen in the far future.
Load More Replies...This is informal. It can be a fallacy, but if the process is carefully and reasonably explained, OR there is evidence of a similar "slide" occurring before, OR you are already "sliding" without any sign of slowing (You said A would eventually lead to Z, and you are already at S), than it may not be a fallacy. A bit of nuance to those rules though.
I... am... a bit... confused? Wait... seriously? There's a fallacy called "No True Scotsman?" okay, that's interesting... googling...
The "No True Scotsman" Is a cousin of the Ad Hominem, it seems to me. Because the opposition is attacking one's character, rather than offering a counter-argument. A great modern example of this was when Kanye recently came out and said that he liked President Trump---and actually gave reasons for his position. In response, many people reacted by questioning his "black" cred.
I usually end up with some form of this when I ask Christians "Why did Jesus have to die for God to forgive us?" So far I haven't heard a good explanation. (Yes, there's "he was perfect and paid in blood sacrifice for the whole Adam and Eve debacle" but if God's plan was to forgive people, why didn't he just do it WITHOUT killing Jesus. Ugh, even without all that we're starting on the false premise of the Adam and Eve story being true, which is just immense levels of ridiculous.)
Just curious do you use anything other than religion as the way to agree or disagree with the statements?
Load More Replies...life. I understand your thoughts about the Eden story seeming ridiculous. I assume that the "universe being created in 144 hours" thing seems off. One thing about Bible accounts is that they often use figurative language. In some cases they even state "a day for a year", or "a thousand years as a day". In this case the language was figurative, with the days representing periods of creation. I believe in the God of the Bible for many reasons, including the scientific accuracy in it ("the earth is hanging upon nothing", washing hands, burying waste for sanitation, quarantine procedures rabbits chewing cud, etc.) as well as the prophecies that came true. I am truly sorry if religious people have ever disrespected you.
In india we have one statement to completely turn this tactic on its head and it's toh wo khai me kudne kahe ga to tu kud jaye ga meaning if (insert name) is asking you to jump of a cliff you will jump?
THIS is what begging the question means! (It DOESN'T mean 'raising the question or 'asking a question'). Spread it around so we can stop hearing it used incorrectly by 90% of people on TV.
It’s not only about inanimate objects but people’s feelings, as well. "You’ve hurt my feelings" or "this offends me" are on the same level. Someone is offended, so what? It doesn’t give them any rights. Hurt emotions are a part of life, but if people can’t control their own emotions they often start trying to control other people’s behavior. At this point any discussion turns pathetic.
Yes, but this isn't the meaning of the term "pathetic fallacy". It's a confusingly worded term in English but it basically just means "applying human feelings to inhuman things". So, like the Elizabethan idea of the "chain of being" suggested that the monarch was chosen by god, so a common theme in literature was that when a monarch was killed, there would be a storm, or animals would start acting crazy, as though they cared about this.
Load More Replies...Sorry, Groot. I'm sure the poster didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
Load More Replies...This isn't entirely accurate. According to Wikipedia, which provides a good definition: "The method of Bulverism is to "assume that your opponent is wrong, and explain his error.” The Bulverist assumes a speaker's argument is invalid or false and then explains why the speaker came to make that mistake, attacking the speaker or the speaker's motive."
These aren't explained very well, are they, perhaps they need you to edit, I'm not being sarcastic, they really aren't as clear as they could be.
Load More Replies...Mmmhh, biased opinion must be point out. If some "expert" say something is safe and work for the enterprise that produce the something, it's nice to know. That way you know you should not rely on this one and only opinion.
I'm biased. But I have the ability to create my own opinion. I just don't do it often...
There's a deep difference between an "expert" and an expert, that's the root of all the anti-scientific movements.
Right, like using Dr Ruth to prove that heart disease is caused by woodworking when she is an expert in sexual relations, not heart disease
Load More Replies...This is not a fallacy. Basically every scientific discussion appeals to authority (in this case, the scientific consensus). And every single person who is _not_ an expert uses such arguments.
Correct. The question is whether the expert is, in fact, an expert. If the expert appealed to is the world's foremost authority on the subject then this is not a fallacy. And, as you point out, those who are not experts would be required to never state anything if they were not allowed to appeal to actual experts.
Load More Replies...But sometimes the expert actually has extensive and specific knowledge of the subject. That is why they are considered an expert. Why would you not defer to their expertise on a complex subject?
One big issue is that there are people out there that are equally qualified, but have differing opinions. When I ask about this. Bandwagon is used a lot.
Ohh... so they mean an Expert who is... not... really truly... an expert. ie: "I know all about cars 'cuz I watch Youtube a whole lot and I'm an EXPERT Mechanic!! I fixed my grandma's scooter once. And changed a tire THREE times..." ... Meanwhile... the certified Mechanic who went to trade school, got the certification after the gruelling process then worked in the industry for several decades, had their work constantly scrutinized by a governing body (health, safety, accident prevention etc) as per regulations... gives "expert mechanic" a bit of side eye...
This seems a little more like anti-intellectualism. If a group of experts studying something for a very long time agree on something then why should your opinion hold equal weight? This is what fuels the "global warming isn't real" or "vaccines cause autism" arguments. They think their opinion is as good as those people that actually spend their lives studying these things. And, sometimes there are leading experts on a field. I wouldn't say my opinion on ancient Egypt is anywhere near as valid as the theories of Dr. Zahi Hawass. Sometimes people just need to learn to shut up and listen as much as it hurts their egos.
This is classic for the co2 religion. Nobody, not even physicists or other PHD's gets to have any opinion, because they are not climate scientists or experts on the subject. Nota bene - all the "climate scientists" has their education elsewhere, as there are no PHD's in "climate science". Self-fulfilling fallacy where the referrer refers to a "climate science expert" who can not be an expert due to the same logic, as (s)he does not have a degree in "climate science", simply because, there are no such degrees...
Yup. Just because someone is a d**k, doesn't mean they can't point it out when you're being one. Being a d**k doesn't automatically make them wrong, just a hypocrite.
Actually, being a jerk probably makes it easier for them to recognize another jerk. 'Nice' people generally assume some excuse for anothers bad behavior. A jerk will know it's just because your a jerk.
Load More Replies...I don't get this one. If an argument contained a fallacy (even if the one using it doesn't know it) then, the reasoning is likely to be unsound. Depending of the fallacy of course
Fallacy fallacy is a pest of one to explain. A person argues a point, but the argument they are using contains a fallacy. The act of the fallacy fallacy is to dismiss that person's point as being wrong because their argument contained a fallacy. The point they were making is not necessarily wrong because thy argued the point poorly.
Load More Replies...This is not a fallacy in itself. It is a claim that can be easily disproved provided the delivery of the argument was logically coherent. When disproved it becomes cognitive error or a simple lie (if its author knew there was no fallacy).
What the hell,this means Trump is wrong every time he opens his mouth. There literally isn’t one thing he says that doesn’t contain multiple fallacies.
It's a good thing if you can spot fallacies. Rather than pointing out to the other, it may be a better idea to ask appropriate questions that will reveal the fallacy.
Is claiming the argument is invalid the same as claiming it’s wrong?
Sorry, but this is just wrong. Unless you can make your argument without using fallacies, then your argument is unsound.
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person"
‘Arguing with a stupid person is a bit like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter who won the stupid bird will still s**t all over the board and strut around like it won anyway’. That’s not the exact quote but it was something like that.
Load More Replies...I also like, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."
Load More Replies...I don’t see the point in this. If you start with “I have an opinion”, any stupid or illogical reply is OK, because opinions are like a-holes. It would be different if we were talking about facts or theories or logical arguments. But when you’re just voicing your opinion, any answer is legit.
I know someone who uses all of these as excuses in arguments. It's exhausting.
A couple months ago me and a few other people from a community I'm in had a...heated discussion, with someone who absolutely hated us for some reason, from this list he was using, Ad hominem, Bulverism, Circular reasoning, Moral high ground, Moving the goalposts, and Reductio ad hitlerum. It was the most frustrating thing because you give actual points only to get "well that doesn't matter because you're nazis." "What? How are we nazis?" "Lol You're nazis because I know you are."
I too.This are easily misused in the internet. People often wrongly call out others for using these fallacies. The most popular one being the strawman, a person can call out other for using it and say "No, I did not meant that" and post a comment explaining what he said, completely different from his original argument.
Load More Replies...Well, this is horrible. These so called 'logical fallacies' are the weapon of internet arguers. No, not using them, but calling out others for using them. Internet arguers very commonly call out others for a logical fallacy, often wrongly. The obviously correct one of these is Ad Hominem(so common it does not even feel wrong, but a part of a debate). Both sides label each other for cherry picking in almost every argument I have seen. , both sides label each other for using 'strawman' arguments, it is the second most popular one for internet arguers after the cherry picking label. Like person A posted an argument, person B posted an answer, person A posted another comment explaining what he had *actually* said, writing a comment that does not even sound like his original argument and calls out person B for using strawman arguments.
There are many such examples of false strawman fallacy labelling. Sometimes some arguments clearly seem directed at something, and if a person writes even a word about it, kids instantly scream '*STRAWMAN!!'* on Reddit. Just because a person is trying to work his way around something cleverly like in the line I just wrote, or can not present his argument properly, and somebody calls it out does not means that our person B is wrong, it means that Person A is wrong. Even so, if somebody actually misunderstands a comments, personal attacks begin instead of a proper correction, not like in the original post. Such is the case with many of these. Internet arguers weaponize everything, both logical fallacies and calling out others for them.
Load More Replies..."It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person"
‘Arguing with a stupid person is a bit like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter who won the stupid bird will still s**t all over the board and strut around like it won anyway’. That’s not the exact quote but it was something like that.
Load More Replies...I also like, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."
Load More Replies...I don’t see the point in this. If you start with “I have an opinion”, any stupid or illogical reply is OK, because opinions are like a-holes. It would be different if we were talking about facts or theories or logical arguments. But when you’re just voicing your opinion, any answer is legit.
I know someone who uses all of these as excuses in arguments. It's exhausting.
A couple months ago me and a few other people from a community I'm in had a...heated discussion, with someone who absolutely hated us for some reason, from this list he was using, Ad hominem, Bulverism, Circular reasoning, Moral high ground, Moving the goalposts, and Reductio ad hitlerum. It was the most frustrating thing because you give actual points only to get "well that doesn't matter because you're nazis." "What? How are we nazis?" "Lol You're nazis because I know you are."
I too.This are easily misused in the internet. People often wrongly call out others for using these fallacies. The most popular one being the strawman, a person can call out other for using it and say "No, I did not meant that" and post a comment explaining what he said, completely different from his original argument.
Load More Replies...Well, this is horrible. These so called 'logical fallacies' are the weapon of internet arguers. No, not using them, but calling out others for using them. Internet arguers very commonly call out others for a logical fallacy, often wrongly. The obviously correct one of these is Ad Hominem(so common it does not even feel wrong, but a part of a debate). Both sides label each other for cherry picking in almost every argument I have seen. , both sides label each other for using 'strawman' arguments, it is the second most popular one for internet arguers after the cherry picking label. Like person A posted an argument, person B posted an answer, person A posted another comment explaining what he had *actually* said, writing a comment that does not even sound like his original argument and calls out person B for using strawman arguments.
There are many such examples of false strawman fallacy labelling. Sometimes some arguments clearly seem directed at something, and if a person writes even a word about it, kids instantly scream '*STRAWMAN!!'* on Reddit. Just because a person is trying to work his way around something cleverly like in the line I just wrote, or can not present his argument properly, and somebody calls it out does not means that our person B is wrong, it means that Person A is wrong. Even so, if somebody actually misunderstands a comments, personal attacks begin instead of a proper correction, not like in the original post. Such is the case with many of these. Internet arguers weaponize everything, both logical fallacies and calling out others for them.
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