After Paris Olympics Gender Controversy, Imane Khelif Debuts Dramatic Makeover

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Really? OK, I'm deleting my comment. this is a testosterone face, downvote me, I could care less.

Ha! In the time it took me to log on, you'd changed this. It does say she's biologically female from birth in the article. Way to own the mistake and be accountable. The internet needs more of you! Thanks!

That's because your comments are really really silly. You just can't let her be, can you.

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Research skills. How do you know more than 3 chromosome tests?

Please explain the 'research skills' which you consider are more valid to determining her gender than herself, her father and the IOC?

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Ioc never talked about the outcome of the tests so we can't say what they really said. Thats because their definition of s*x is based on passport and imane has a female passport. What she herself says is not really relevant. Just for an similar example lance armstrong also said he never used doping. The tests show he did. How come we accept those tests as knowing better than lance armstrong himself?

'Just for an similar example lance armstrong also said he never used doping.' Excellent! You've moved on from baseless bigotry to logical fallacies (false equivalence) I wait for more rambling delusions from you ........

I remember Ben Johnson (after the fact) stating that "I was using d_rugs, but I was clean" - suggesting perhaps that he didn't understand what "clean" meant (unless he was implying he might have washed occasionally). We'll never forget Maradonna's hand of god goal, especially since there are now photos that prove he was lying. You can't take people's word for things, that's why we have objective tests. Her appearance, before or after, isn't the issue, or definitive - anyone who's seen Drag Race or Ladyboys will know that men can look pretty glamorous if they try.

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You are using the argument "she herself claims" which is also not evidence just like lance armstrongs claims weren't. So no not a false equivalent because we are both using a "he/she says" example.

No. I did not present her claims as evidence. I asked 'please explain the 'research skills' which you consider are more valid to determining her gender than herself, her father and the IOC?'

You wouldn't know research if it slapped you in the face. Please define the word "research" for us, and tell us if that's what you did

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Not based on several chromosome tests. Ideology is not biology. https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2025/6/1/xxyetyl1aewfij823hnfdrsbi1sqjm

Your 'reference' is a blog. However when comes to the eligibility to compete in the Olympics the IOC takes precedent, and so '"The Algerian boxer was born female, was registered female, lived her life as a female, boxed as a female, has a female passport," said Mark Adams, chief spokesperson for the IOC' https://www.today.com/health/news/imane-khelif-boxer-gender-eligibility-controversy-rcna164854

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Just for clarity also post it here. International boxing association test results. https://www.iba.sport/news/iba-clarifies-the-facts-the-letter-to-the-ioc-regarding-two-ineligible-boxers-was-sent-and-acknowledged/

Just for clarity review this article, from a reliable source, about why the IBA view has been discredited 'This week, the IOC described it as “a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA” in which Khelif and Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan “were suddenly disqualified without any due process.” Lin was suspended for failing to meet unspecified eligibility requirements in a biochemical test. The reasons for the two disqualifications are extremely murky, as is almost always the case with the IBA. The governing body has revealed little about the nature of the tests, including what was tested and who tested it. This lack of transparency would be unacceptable in major Olympic sports, and the IBA has been banned from the Olympics since 2019. The IOC noted Thursday that the boxing association’s own documents say the decision was made unilaterally by the IBA’s secretary general. Those documents also say the IBA went on to resolve at a meeting that it should “establish a clear procedure on gender testing”

Source https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/who-is-olympian-imane-khelif-an-algerian-woman-boxer-is-facing-anti-trans-backlash

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According to your source ioc doesn't accept the results of the tests because they determine s*x by passport not by chromosome test.

How come Imane has been beaten by women, and failed at the previous Olympics if she has so much of an advantage?

Having an advantage doesn't mean you're talented. I've always been male, but I'd get annihilated by just about every female Olympic athlete (and these days, I suspect, most of the Paralympians too :( )

That is kind of my point, PPS wants us to believe Imane won because of her supposed "male" advantages. Imane won because she is a world class boxer.

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Imane made it to the the Olympics and lost the quarter finals on points. Pretty good result in general or we can't have the conversation if she doesn't automatically won everything in her career because of being xy?

Yet reliable sources report she us XX

So you are saying the skill of Imane's competitor was greater than all of Imane's physical advantages you claim she has due to being secretly male?

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So because a woman can be more skilled we can just ignore all the biological advantages of being male? the woman who beat her was the gold medal winner that Olympics and had 10 years more experience by the way.

Yet reliable sources report she us biologically female.

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So what source actually says she is xx and not that the 3 tests she failed are "up for debate"?

Another logical fallacy (Invincible ignorance fallacy)! Please carry on. We can start a game of 'Power puff scientist's logical fallacy bingo.' The winner gets a free ticket to watch a women's boxing match.

Make sure the women look pretty and petite by Western beauty standards otherwise you will get complaints about them being men.

Sounds like being a male isn't all it is c-racked up to be if you still lose to a woman on points despite all the "physical advantages".

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Now you are just being a d*****s. Are you really saying you think; there is no difference in the male and female body than the s*x organs? And if you don't believe in physical advantages Google how many trans athletes are now top in the sports like running and cycling. But must be because all these trans athletes just practiced harder right?

Nope. You are the one saying Imane has male physical advantages which gave her the win. Despite the losses Imane has had. And transgender athletes are a very small minority with very little sporting success, which by the way, has no part in this argument about the woman Imane.

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I'm saying that despite just imane as this example xy individuals should not be allowed to compete in women's events. We are now talking about imane which is indeed ome of those people and she has unfair advantages if she really is xy as 3 tests have proven, while ioc disagrees with taking these results into account because they look at passport and imane has a female passport. So no I'm not saying men will always win because they have physical advantages but it gives them increased and unfair advantages which has been seen in manu sports over the years. Whether or not transgender athletes is a small minority is irrelevant to me for the discussion.

Transgender athletes have been able to compete in the Olympics for 20 plus years, which is why you see transgender women dominating in all the women's sports... Except you do not.

If you're going to make a claim, tell the whole story. Female-identifying trans athletes have been allowed to compete only if they have not been through male puberty. Oddly enough, as far as I can find no female-identifying trans athletes have competed at the Olympics. How quickly do you think that situation would change if the IOC dropped the 'no male puberty' clause?

That can be explained in part by the fact that under 1% of the population are transgender women; it's not even likely that there will be one in every event.

You should've been @borted