Women Share 12 Tricks They Use For Creepy Men That Ask For Number And Don’t Understand ‘No’
Some people don’t know the meaning of the word “no.” And that makes them incredibly hard to deal with. Luckily, tumblr user daree-to-dream — who has had her share of creepy encounters — decided to share some of the tricks she uses when annoying creeps ask for their phone number. When you think about it, it’s sad that things like this are necessary in the first place, but you never know when you might need them. Better safe than sorry, right?
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Keep in mind that it’s perfectly normal if you do not wish to give out your number. Even if you simply don’t feel like doing it. That doesn’t make you stuck up or rude, after all, you’re an autonomous human being and that includes deciding who gets to be in contact with you.
The post quickly went viral, generating nearly 85,000 notes on tumblr
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In a paper published in New Ideas in Psychology, two researchers from Knox College tried to outline a more comprehensible definition of creepiness. After doing an empirical study, they concluded that a person’s “creepiness detector” pings when they encounter something unpredictable or outside the norm. For example, someone with idiosyncratic behavioral patterns, unusual physical characteristics, or a tendency to over or under-emote. To put it simply, we get a weird vibe when someone looks or behaves in a way that appears unstable or violates social norms. Usually, because we believe they may pose danger to us.
The researchers got their data from an international online survey of 1,341 people with an average age of just under 30. Participants rated the likelihood of a creepy person enacting 44 different behaviors and one of the top-ranked behaviors was habitually steering the conversations toward sex.
Eventually, people started sharing other ways to get our of the difficult situation
I was once really close to interfer after a man asked a teen her number at the bus station. He didn"t understand the "no" and was insisting until he said "but why won't you give me your phone number? I asked nicely!" But she answered "Oh your shirt is beautiful! can I blow my nose on it?" When he said "no" with an horrified face she added "but I asked nicely!" He left without a word and I'm still laughing when I think of her nice comeback.
Best.Answer.Ever! *slow clap*
That young woman will go places in life!
Brilliant! Using his own logic to demonstrate how it is flawed.
This girl is going places!!!! LOVE IT!!!
I'm going to have to remember this one! That was pure perfection.
Instead of giving women tips on how to avoid creeps who won't take "No" for an answer, we should focus on teaching men not to behave like this, and creating better police responses to these situations (i.e. no more asking a woman how she was dressed, actually testing rape kits, etc.)
Until the world becomes perfect, everyone still needs to know how to,protect themselves. Even with education and training, their will be predators and people who just Do. Not. Care
I agree that we need to know how to protect ourselves, but right now it's far more common to see women being advised on how to protect ourselves and rare to see men advised on how to act respectfully to women. Even well-intentioned, polite dudes might not realize, for example, that something they're doing is scary to women because they just aren't aware of our mindset of constantly watching out for violence. Or worse, we as a society don't condemn rape (just read about the Brock Turner case) and make it the woman's responsibility to avoid rape (Watch your drink, Don't go out alone) and not the man's responsibility to not commit rape.
@Marnee DeRider - I know this probably won't get to you because I can't write it as a reply, but here goes. Someone asking for your number isn't a predator. If they ask you over and over, if they don't take no for an answer, if they won't leave you alone, if they are making you feel uncomfortable, then they are being predators. One definition of 'predator' is an animal that hunts, kills, and eats other animals, like wolves, and lions. Another is someone who follows people in order to harm them or commit a crime against them, like a sexual predator. So it can be an apt description.
I agree. And as I said few times on this subject - 1) it doesn't matter if you go jogging every day or if you practice some martial art. Krav maga is popular, very efective and it usually doesn't cost much. 2) self defence tools are quite cheap and can be disguised as jewelery. 3) when you will get something for self defence, practice with it. You have at least one friend who is willing to help you or you can ask in local gym if is there somebody who will help you. Also policemen are sometimes willing to help you with tips and tricks how to use tasers, stunguns, battons, etc and train with you. I was training with my wife and now I'm damn sure that if she will be ever attacked by somebody with knife or batton whe will not be the one who will be hurt.
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@Catlady6000: So, a guy asking for a number is a predator? (Also, you do know that "predator" is an animal that kills in order to eat. It's not a very apt description of a person who does violence and makes it a joke.)
You can't control other people, only yourself
This advice is for other people though. It’s from one person to another.
Trina, duh! As parents, teachers, older siblings etc., we should be teaching men how to be respectful, intelligent citizens. We shouldn't have to focus on advising women how to deal w socially inept assholes. And yes, this is broader than men and women. Women can be inappropriate with men. Men and women can be inappropriate in homosexual relationships. We need to teach our children how to be respectful and considerate, how to accept "no"as a complete sentence, no explanation required.
I know what you are saying but by that logic we wouldn't discourage anyone from engaging in criminal/abusive behaviour as we would only focus on avoiding being victimized, which clearly isn't a good way for the world to run. So obviously as a society and as parents, teachers etc. we do need to be developing correct behaviour.
Great response! Thank you!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
We should do that too, but I think there will always be men (and women) like this.
Agreed, but some perfectly nice guys may come across as weird--it's not a science. A woman can say she doesn't give out her number to strangers, but it's okay if he wants to give her his.
There will only be creeps. It's sad, but that's the way it is. It's better to teach girls and boys how to be safe than teach them they live in a utopia where everybody is nice and bad things don't happen.
Good luck with that
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So, men seeking a mate is bad behavior? What is wrong with asking for a number. The title implies that this is a problem only with creepy guys who won't understand 'No', but the text says nothing about actually saying 'no'. And seriously, how often do women get "gutted" over saying no? Seriously, are women afraid of being murdered over stuff like this? They need to stop watching so many movies. (I understand that there might be a specific situation in which there might be some fear involved..late night and no one around...but usually that's not the case.) Say, "No, sorry." You are NOT REQUIRED to give a reason, but there is no need to be rude right off the bat. If they don't take 'no' for an answer, say "I said 'no'." And then don't talk to them any more. Completely ignore them.
My dad is in forensics. Do you REALLY want to know how many women (CIS and Trans) get gutted? There is a list that is read in November of people killed. I could send that to you, if you like.
Women get attacked for saying no all the time. It might be nice to pretend that it's only in movies but that just isn't the truth. This is just the most recent one that I heard of: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-baby-shot-fresno-party-20190624-story.html%3foutputType=amp
Or just read JP's comment below
Tell the guy you had 5 kids in 5 years and all are under the age of 6. All guys run from that. Enjoy your evening
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Not if they just want to fuck.
This is for everyone on here that is saying "Just Say No, Stop Making Excuses, You Were Never Really In Danger, You Are Just Being Dramatic...." Here's my story. I was in the grocery store, on a Saturday afternoon. I notice a guy is following me. He stands directly behind me, sometime touching me. The first time I say 'Excuse me' and move away. The subsequent times, I realize what is going on. He finally talks to me, but it's not a 'Hey, I'd like to get to know you' type of thing, it's a 'Yo, you gonna be my bitch' type of thing. I tell him NO Thank You and move on. Next thing I know is he's got my face in his grip, hard, and is nearly spitting in my face "No One Tells Me NO, Bitch. I Can Find Where You Live. I Will Follow You Home. You Are Going To Be Mine, Bitch!" He slammed my head against the shelves. That is when the manager shows up, with backup, and gets me away from this guy. The cops are called. There is a difference between a guy wanting a date and a guy instilling fear.
I lived in a smaller city that's main industry was farming. We had a pretty big hispanic community..some straight from Mexico. So one day I drop my neighbor and her daughter (15) at the store while I ran to the bank. Suddenly I'm getting a call from her to come get them quickly. Turns out that 3 men in their mid 40's were following my friends daughter around the store harassing her to go out on a date with them. Now this girl is gorgeous, but obviously 15 years old. I had them point out the men then wait outside. I go to the manager..point out the men. The manager escorts them out one by one. I took photos and had the manager translate to them in spanish that if they ever did anything like that again..I would not only get the police involved, I'd find their wives and tell them what they'd done. The manager trespassed them and apologized profusely. He then escorted us around the store until we were done shopping. One is bad enough..but three?
What does the fact that they're hispanic got to do with anything?
That's funny. I also live in a small farming town with a lot of Mexicans and Guatemalans. I don't know anyone whose been harassed by the men. They sit around and drink beer, watching women, but not harassing them. It always makes me feel safer, knowing there are witnesses outside. (In the summer.)
Not calling the police was your mistake... In Portugal they would act. I'm more affraid of american's, british's, german's and others that can't stop drinking, nevertheless!
why don't women just always say no.... “Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.” – Margaret Atwood ...it's a true statement.
Famously quoted by Courtney Barnett in "Nameless, Faceless". "I hold my keys, between my fingers..."
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Some people are afraid of chemtrails. Being afraid is not a measure of real danger, but often caused by exaggerating media.
My (now) wife had a stalker who would call 20 to 50 times a day. She would block a number, and he would spoof another one and continue to call. He did this for *years*. I answered the call twice and let him know that she wanted him to stop... and he did. But she still has nightmares, anxiety attacks, and won't go out alone because of that creep.
I'm really sorry this happened to your wife :(
That's awful!
How can we call our self civilized when our sisters and daughters still have to resort to all this thing just to walk safe on streets?
Personally, I agree with those saying that a "No" means "No", but we all know that this often isn't enough, especially with those, you don't want to give your number to. Some people... men, can't accept a no because of their ego. I always told my three daughters to never give away their numbers to strangers which they don't know the first thing about. You never know who you are talking to. Instead just ask for their number and if they still resist, seek for help. Ask others around you to help. Try to leave the situation and get away from that person. Remain calm, but stay strong and confident. If it’s going too far, call the cops or at least tell the person that you will. There’s no rule or law which forces you to give away your number.
Usually saying "No" works..but if the creep can't get the message...tell them to get loud about it. "Do I need to get security or the police here to help you understand the definition of "No!"" Most creeps that harass women try to do it quietly. If you announce to the world that he's a creep, he will not only leave you alone, he's less likely to do it with another woman that night for fear of a repeat performance.
High volume is good advice when it's an option, the last thing they want is everyone's attention. I had a guy come at me out of the bushes with his arms out straight for my chest like some kind of tit-grabbing zombie, I screamed "fuck off" so loud my colleagues could hear me five blocks away, the guy scampered off with the greatest look of terror I've ever seen. I'm lucky it ended in such a way that I can laugh about it now.
Ladies, if you don't want to give your number, don't do it! No spoofs, no nothing. Just a loudly screamed NO will do the trick. There are a lot of people who will watch out for you.
Yeah but the whole point of this article is what to do if you don't have that option. You're in a crowded party or concert and everyone is already screaming, no one's going to hear or care about your 'no.' What next?
@Bobert Robertson an article is literally defined as a 'piece of writing included in a publication.' I see writing at the top. And by the way, that has nothing to do with the discussion going on here.
In crowded and/or noisy situations, a knee to the groin gets the message across.
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Is this what we call an article these days?? A quick blurb followed by a bunch of Facebook comments?
Jarno, you DO NOT GET TO tell women what it is like to say no to a man. You do not get to. You don't understand what many women go through and you don't get to tell them their experience or what they should do. Where's your comment telling men what to do, ie don't be heinous skeevbags who ask more than once? Women resort to tricks because they are AFRAID and you don't get to tell them not to be.
@Jarno - Treating women with respect is the number one lesson YOU learned...it is not the number one lesson some guys learn. They learn to use intimidation, fear and terrorizing. Some guys saying NO is like waving a red flag at a bull, and women get hurt, raped or murdered. You have good intentions with your response, but not realistic expectations. So, please, talk to and teach men how to respond to NO from a woman, but do not pretend your way is the only way when the majority of women know different. I was in a grocery store and ended up with a black eye and bruising around my neck because I had the audacity to tell a guy NO when he wanted my number and a date. A Grocery Store. So, I agree with KatHat, men do not get to tell us what it is like and how we should feel when a guy asks for your number, or for a date. We should not have to resort to 'tricks', but that just might keep us safe...and you never know which guy will freak out on you...you never know where it will happen.
While I appreciate that you have good intentions, Jarno, Kathat does have a point. It's not uncommon for women to be attacked for turning a man down. While we shouldn't have to resort to things like creating fake numbers, it's the only way to know you won't provoke an attack, like this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-baby-shot-fresno-party-20190624-story.html%3foutputType=amp
I don't get to? With all due respect, who are you, to tell me what not to say? I'm offering advice, to let the women know, there are still men looking out for them. And if I have to comment on men how to behave, society is already doomed, because treating a woman with respect is the number 1 lesson we learn. Heck, we have to respect everyone. Me and my friends hate the kind of assholes and when we see behavior like this, will most likely punch some sense into them. If you give those guys any kind of number, it's like giving them a reward for the way they act. I don't think you want things like this to happen to other women? Because they will play their "game" again and again.
Jarno will tell "ladies" how to act, but wont tell men. He is part of the problem
The problem is that women can get hurt or murdered for refusing to give out their phone number. Just saying 'no' to certain men can literally get you murdered. It is a fact of life for many women. The problem is that it's not always easy to tell which guys will actually take 'no' for an answer, and which ones will want to hurt you. They will watch and wait. They will find the opportunity when you're alone to hurt or murder you for having the 'audacity' to refuse them. Thus, we end up having to find ways to protect ourselves.
Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are simply unaware or naive. Refusing advances can place women in considerable danger. Women are murdered for refusing men's advances. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28936116/star_trib_19_dec_199 Their children are thrown off balconies https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-threw-year-mall-america-balcony-tells-police/story?id=62423602 You might think these are exceptions, but you really need to read up on the statistics on how women are beaten, raped, assaulted and even killed just for saying NO. You may think that a lot of people will look out for us...you are wrong and that can be shown by the number of stories involving men attacking women for having the audacity to say NO to their advances. It happens daily in just about every area of the country. IF you truly care, get yourself educated, please.
Hugo, here is a good starting point: https://www.mic.com/articles/135394/14-women-were-brutally-attacked-for-rejecting-men-why-arent-we-talking-about-it
I'd be interested in these statistics. Where can I find them?
Unfortunately, Jarno, there are to many stories of women getting attacked and/or murdered for telling a man no. Sometimes its safer for us to lie.
You do get to say what you like, but with all due respect, you really don't get it. No one wants to be beat up or worse for yelling NO at the wrong person. Not every man is as polite as you. Unfortunately, most of the women posting here have had to deal with scary aggressive men. Say what you will but I do not poke bears.
Jarno, sorry, but NO. When there are real life events like this - a row of taxi drivers waiting for fares closing their car windows so that they don't have to hear the sound of the woman screaming for help whilst she was raped. None of them even called the police while sitting on their arses nice and safe in their cars. You can never assume that there are people who will watch out for you. Bobert Robertson - these things NEED to be shared. It's never a bad idea to have a few tricks up your sleeve.
Not always. When I was young I had to take a bus home from work at night, well after normal working hours. There were not a lot of people around to look out for me while I waited at the bust stop. You have no idea what you're talking about.
It's nice that you belive that, Jarno, but all women know that this is just not always true.
Yea, if I were in that position I'd clearly decline, if they still insist just call security and get them thrown out for harassment.
No surprise this dangerous advice was given by a man.
If a woman you weren't attracted to asked for your number and you knew there was a 1 in 2 chance she would shoot you if you said "no", would you dare say it? That's what women have to go through.
1 in 2 isn't the same as 50/50.
1 in 2 chance? Get real.
Jarno, you'd been surprised how many really doesn't give a shit about your struggles with a strange creeper.
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Thank you!
All those who believe it is really as simple as saying a strong NO or pushing a man aside need to grow up, become aware and educate themselves. How many women are stalked, assaulted and even murdered because they said NO to a man's advances? To those who insist that women need to exercise more discretion as to where they go, how they dress, whether they drink or not or insist that only "certain types" of women experience harassment should grow up, put aside your twisted judgements and become educated! STOP BLAMING VICTIMS!
It is true. Some men are afraid women are laughing at them. Many women are afraid men are going to kill them. and/ or rape them.
It's sad that most people suggested saying "I have a boyfriend". It's a painful proof that most men respect other men much more than they respect women. In this case, a man respects other man's "lady property" and keeps off, instead of just respecting the woman and accepting the very simple word "NO".
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No, it's a proof that people think in patterns of monogamy/amory. The same would be true for reversed gender roles, just that women don't respect other's relationship stati.
Many people don’t understand that many times “being honest”, “having a good relationship with the word no”, etc does not work with the type of person this post is talking about. Even sometimes saying you have a boyfriend doesn’t work. The type of person this post is talking about is persistent, creepy, and doesn’t understand the word no. It’s very insulting to assume that it’s our fault if we get hit on creepily >:(
I would give the creeper the number for the company that sells the erectile dysfunction pills that they are always selling on the telly...
We don't get those ads in the UK and now I feel genuinely disappointed that we don't!
Me: "I have a boyfriend" / Him: "It's a lie." True story. Listen, guys, NEVER EVER go for the "It's-a-lie technique". You're not achieving anything with this. It's offensive, and even in cases when it really is a lie, it's still a "No." No matter how beautiful she is, there is no joy in a loveless relationship, and no, she won't eventually start to love you if you force her into this.
I wonder if the comments saying "Just say no!" are from men. Probably.
It's not misleading or cruel. And no is not always an option. Too many men resort to violence when women brush them off. Why should we have to fear for our lives too much to say "no"?
Just do as a lady did. Ask for his phone to type in your number. Edit his mom's telephonenumber with your name and enjoy the idea of the awkward moment when he sends his mom dickpics.
Good idea if they're just a creep but some are dangerous - not always easy to spot which ones are which.
Wtf is wrong with people who can't take no for an answer? Is it really that common? Geebus people... how do you get off thinking being a creep is going to improve your chances? o_O
I'm a "no means no" man. The first "no" ends things, period. One of the things that burns me is women who ASSUME that a man is a creep who won't take "no" for an answer, even if he's been polite the entire time. Ladies, I know you've been burned. I get it. That does mean that I will act the same way.
So no, I don't want your number No, I don't want to give you mine and No, I don't want to meet you nowhere No, I don't want none of your time
sitting in the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to holla at me
I DON'T WANT NO SCRUB A SCRUB IS A GUY THAT CAN'T GET NO LOVE FROM ME 🎶
A jerk in a bar gave me a hard time once. He kept hitting on me, even after I told him I have a boyfriend. He laughed. Later he sat next to me. I warned him that I had a boyfriend (this is true, dammit!) but he laughed and said I didn't. Finally he went too far, putting his hand on my thigh. I warned him that he had better take it off, and he laughed. "You don't have a boyfriend!" the ugly f--k mocked me. That was the last damn straw. I grabbed him by the beard, looked him right in the eye, and said "TAKE YOUR DIRTY PAW OFF OF ME YOU SMELLY BABOON BEFORE I MAKE YOU REGRET YOUR Y CHROMOSOME!" Moments later, he got thrown out of the bar.
Notice how the comments in the article that say “just tell him you have a bf” or that giving a fake number is cruel, etc are all from men? They really don’t get it. Smh.
Make a scene and embarrass him. Yell loudly for everybody to hear "WHAT PART OF NO DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND, PERVERT??".
men are literally killing women hitting them verbally abusing them because they dont want to give you their number, you cant even approach me with respect what makes u think i want to give u my number, i just avoid all interaction if possible
I think its sad that women should have to give a husbands or boyfriends number or feel compelled to prove they have a BF or husband to make a creepy guy go away, its like the creepy guy will respect another man but not the women who he is hitting on when she says no. Women are not the property of men, and 'No' is a complete sentence and should not need explanation.
Where exactly do these social fucktard men “learn” this behavior and how quickly can we shut that shit down?
This article reminded me of the book THE GIFT OF FEAR by Gavin De Becker, a former victim's advocate. The book teaches people to follow their instincts: humans are the only animals who will defy their instincts for reasons such as "I don't want to be ruled by fear" or not trusting themselves. Other beings resort to "fight or flight." The book shows how many victims KNEW on some level that something wasn't right. The case stories are chilling and compelling. The lesson: trust yourself, your instincts and your intuition. If you're wrong, no loss. What comes to mind for ladies who are harassed like this: get a second phone. Most carriers offer a second phone for very low cost -- or get a burner phone (Target, Walmart, 7-11) and use it to collect voice messages and the number of the caller. Since it's not connected to an ongoing agreement or billing cycle, there's no way to trace you.
For the few folks saying women are exaggerating the threat, here's the most recent incident (woman in Manchester knocked out by a guy after politely telling him "no"): https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/woman-punched-manchester-video-police-appeal-suspect-a9013281.html
I used to politely tell men no who asked for my number or if they were insisting on talking to me that I was just there with my friends and not interested in talking to them. 100% of the time, the man became angry and demanded to know why I did not want to talk to him. Being honest made me feel better but it didn't stop the creeps, they are used to rejection. I'm just not good at lying.
I love giving out the non-emergency number to the police and sheriff's department. A dispatcher answers the call per company called. Justice.
Men are afraid that women are laughing at them. Women are afraid that men are going to kill them.
^^hahaha @ pick your nose and wipe it on them, you are bold and nasty lol
If they don't understand the complete sentence "no", get physically as far from them as you can, as close to other people as you can get. Choose couples, or families. If you feel threatened, tell him loudly to leave you alone. Tell the people near you, in a quiet voice, that you need help, that he won't leave you alone. I have used this tactic myself. I once fled down the street in Istanbul Turkey, dashing from gentle old man to old man as a creep chased me. Every time he neared, I would shout "sin!" in Turkish, because my limited vocabulary didn't include "creep". In college I spied a man from my German class in a group ahead of us while a creep was verbally harassing my friends and me, getting dangerously close. I yelled out in German"hey, Brian, please wait for us! We don't know this guy and he is bothering us!" My classmate and his frowaited for us.
When I was in my early 20s, I would get approached by some serious creepers who wouldn't let it go when I denied my digits. One time it got really creepy as the guy came back multiple times, each time more drunk and aggressive (I was out for a work gathering). I eventually gave him a number... the local police office. Hope he enjoyed stalking them!
I think the real point, and what is so sad about this entire discourse, is that women should not need to do any of this. I should not need to give a fake number, or create an elaborate lie about a spouse/boyfriend, or be worried about his reaction. I should just be able to say no. Period.
these guys are like that guy who takes women's license plate numbers and then goes to their house to "educate" them.
I've not experienced this yet, but I have a few safeguards. I can tell them things like my experience with martial arts. If that doesn't work, then I don't know.
In recent years, I've taken to not asking for phone numbers; instead, I offer mine and say, "Call me if you're interested in talking, and if not, be happy, be healthy, be cool." It beats the daylights out of asking nicely ONCE and having the woman either throw a fit like I'm attacking her, or make sarcastic, condescending remarks. I was raised to respect women, and I get very tired when I'm treated like I'm some stereotypical pig.
Don't do that. Just say no. If the guy persists tell a bouncer or barkeep or friend or something. People need to learn the meaning of "no". Excuses and lies will not help.
Yes, Fongo is PERFECT for this!
i don't know why some guys can't or won't take no for an answer or just the phrase "i'm not interested" and move on. it makes someone very uncomfortable when they still are persistent or want an explanation of why you won't go out with them. try saying these same phrases to a man as a plus size woman and it is ten times worse. i can't count the number of times i have been called fat bitch or have them say i should be happy they want my number. even if you give them a number that you know you won't pick up, i have had some guys call in right in front of me to see if it's a working number. so saying no, i'm not interesting or just giving a number to get away doesn't work. do these guys even realize how far over the line into creep zone they are and just don't care.
I was alone in München Train Station and got followed by a man. I tried to go to a crowded place but I panicked and went the wrong way, to a completely empty area. He stopped me then and asked for my number, my name, where I live, etc. Wouldn’t take a no so I lied, made an excuse and just ran away. It can be scary when they just don’t back down.
Gave them my coworkers number. I had a big deep voice. I do like dudes giving THEIR number first. Nothin wrong with that.
HE had a big deep voice
My friend Áine, an Irish redhead: Man: "Give me your number." Áine: "One" (Accompanied by a piercing glare) 25591905_1...7596b9.jpg
Isn't it sad that women need to do these things? What ever gave some men the idea that this behavior is wanted?
The 20$ taser is the perfect solution <3
Well... Why does these guys never offer their numbers, leaving her to call/text them, if she is ok with it? Sounds more fair to me....
Give your moms number. That’ll be awkward for him!
"Go forth and don't get murdered!" Pretty much says it all!
I just tell everybody I don't have a phone lol, or I will flip the conversation and manipulate them with politeness as if we're really getting along and then I'll say brb and slip out and they always just stand there waiting thinking they are about to score lol
This is the same as saying women should dress modest so they'll have less chance of getting raped... :-(
Niiiiceeere
I agree with the 'Why should we have to resort to this bullshit.' Ideally we should just be honest. Not our problem if they don't like it. If you don't have the confidence for brutal honesty or you do feel intimidated or whatever, just say 'I don't give my phone number out.' No one should be giving out fake numbers or any of that b*llocks.
i agree but there are still some people out there who won't accept that answer. sometimes we just need to be a bit extra prepared
It's our problem if they turn violent. You have to do what keeps you safe.
In an ideal world there would be no stalkers, nobody would take a simple nicety as a declaration of love, and simply stating that you don't want to have any sort of relationship with them wouldn't be seen as an act of aggression. People shouldn't have to worry about their safety just because they're not interested in someone. If you have a serious issue with people giving out fake numbers maybe you have a bigger issue. Don't get mad you got a fake number- try and figure out why you got a fake number and go from there.
Women shouldn't have to lie and men who ask for a number shouldn't get lied to. One strategy is to simply say that you don't give out your number to anyone you don't know and then offer to let him give you his.
that may work once in a while but its better to be extra sure since there is always at least one person who can't deal with being rejected
Pick your nose and wipe it on them 11/10
I agree with one of the commenters...why must we as women be forced to go to great lengths to set up fake phone numbers and fake names to protect ourselves! This is ridiculous and it is also ridiculous that a grown man cannot accept a polite "I am flattered buy no thank you" for an answer. I do understand the need to protect ourselves but it makes me super annoyed that the men who create these awkward situations have no problem making a woman uncomfortable enough that she feels the need to give fake names and numbers. A decent and good human being will accept the decision with grace. Thank you to those of you who respect a womans choice!
I would say "No" and if they pushed it, I'd yell loudly enough "Oh my God! What are you doing you creep! I told you to keep your hands to yourself. You pervert!! Security!!!" They'd throw hands up, slink away and never approach me again. It also got the message out to the rest of the creeps to leave me alone. After all, some girls aren't looking for men..they're just having a girls night out. I got called names a lot, but I shrug it off because it speaks volumes about their immaturity and lack of intelligence. My gf's usually got a giggle out of it too.
In a crowded place, this is actually a good advice. But It's also the way society wants you to act. How many times do we hear the blame being put on the victim because she (or he) didn't make a scene in public....
@ Daria True..
" What part of No don't you understand ? The n ? the o? the full stop? " ......really My two year old understands no..." With the full sarcasm look,
I agree with some of the answers below that advise us to stand up for our wants and values. Don't let anyone intimidate you. Stand your ground and say no. Say "get the hell out of my face" if you have to. If they persist and/or if you feel like your safety is threatened, call the police. Are their feelings more important than yours? No. Simply No. They shouldnt be, ever. If you dont like someone, no excuses necessary. Don't reinforce this harassing behavior. They won't even recognize they are in the wrong and the cycle will continue.
They know damn well they're in the wrong. They aren't children, they are full grown adult men who think if they just keep on pestering they'll eventually wear you down.
Herpes is not a punch line. 90% of the world population has one form or another of it... smh people are so uneducated. It's this kind of ignorance that A) leads to the spread of STIs because people don't talk about it, and B) the stigma that led to the suicide of a very close family friend. I will forever stand up to these base jokes in his honor. RIP
I understand your point, but nobody is making fun of herpes here. These women are afraid of getting murdered so someone suggested that they should claim to have an infectious disease and maybe that will make the pervert go away. It doesn't make light of herpes. It's legitimate advice.
Why is this being downvoted? This is 100% valid. Good on you for standing up for your friend.
Good looking guy - "he was so sweet when he asked for my number" - Not so good looking guy - "that creep harassed me by trying to talk to me".
Well...my first comment got deleted, because my opinion wasn't popular. (or let's say it got hidden, and then I deleted it) No matter what you might have thought about my opinion...deleting it, because most people don't like it...that's censorship. But well...let's clarify some things then again: I said, that women should not try to come up with shitty excuses, and just be straightforward. They should tell a guy, when they are not interested, instead of coming up with fake stuff. It takes a lot of courage for men, especially when they are labeled as "creepy" to approach a girl and ask for a number. And if they don't give up, after hearing the first "no" isn't necessary a bad thing. If the guy would be handsome as fuck, then this wouldn't be the issue, right girls? Even if you would still not be interested, because you have a boyfriend e.g. You would giggle and and feel safe, just because he doesn't seem creepy. I received a backlash on telling women to be honest and
It doesn't matter how good looking he is if he acts like a creep. And what don't you understand about violence against women? What would you do if someone asked you to give them $10. A stranger, I mean. And you say 'no.' So he asks again. Say he looks like a nice regular guy, but keeps asking over and over even though you said 'no.' Would you think that's okay?
and straightforward with men. I got asked, If I ever felt scared or some shitty comparison was made, what would happen if the same situation would have happend, If I was in prison and some dude would come over for some sweet buttsex. Of course It would probably not work, if I told him, that he is not my type. But so also wouldn't your shitty fake excuse. But here is the thing: nowhere in the post, we spoke about a "endangered" situation. Of course if a creepy guy would approach me, in the middle of the night, and no one would be around and he would ask me for my number: I would probably suck his cock and shit my pants, so that he would not kill me XD But here it was just the talk about creepy guys in general on "how to deal with creepy guys" and not on "how to deal with situations in which you think your life is in danger"
because yeah...when you are in a dark alley...at night...and no one is around...that fake number will NOT safe your life. so I don't think that the setting of the Post is in such an environment, but more in a general "what if you get asked by some dude, that is not your type and he is persistent"-kind of situation. So maybe just be honest and a decent human being instead of lying to someone.
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HIV / herpes is the safest way out. They won’t even want to rape you after that. Scratch your crotch too hard in front of them and they will be gone in seconds. #RegularDayAsAWoman
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It's so awkward to me that this is a thing in the US. I mean, that men annoy women like this. This is definitely not a thing in Italy I would say. Like, they would take no for an answer, straight away.
Umm, as someone who lived in Italy for 2 years, I definitely had to deal with this there. It's a thing that happens everywhere. I also got followed a lot more in Europe (compared to the US) after saying no and trying to walk away. It's great you've never had to deal with it, but there are times where it gets really scary, really fast.
It's a wide world problem giovanna. I've been groped in Italy and had lecherous comments.
There are men like this everywhere. I'm happy that you've never had to deal with it. It's creepy and scary.
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I like the direct approach myself..."No I won't give you my number, I am not interested in someone who will not take no for an answer, if you don't leave me alone this minute I will call the police and they can deal with you! "
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I think the simplest and most brilliant is the herpes one
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Give the Rejection hotline. If he calls it with you standing there, just look him in the eye and ask him if he gets the hint.
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I've always just said no, and i gave my number to the guys i was into. Why make fake excuses? yes the truth hurts, but atleast they'll know you're not interested so they can move on to another gal and try their luck. If a fellow insists just tell him NO firmly and loudly, turn your back and walk
That doesn't always work. Sometimes that puts you in more danger.
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If someone doesn’t accept your „No“, then go ahead and use whatever trick you want, that’s fine. But please differentiate between creeps and normal people. Giving a poor guy the police department‘s number just because he likes you and asks for your number is cruel.
Nobody is saying you give every guy the police department's number. The title says it all, it's for men who keep on and on at you and won't take no for an answer.
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"no." If that doesn't work, "what the fuck do you not understand about 'no'?"
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Oh, come on now! Enjoy it while it lasts and take it with a grain of salt. If you say no like you mean it, most men will back off. Besides, once you hit your thirties, those things are gone with the wind. I kind of miss it actually, lol. I still turn a few heads here and there, but the only time I give my phone number now, it’s only for office purposes.
Enjoy it while it lasts? Enjoy what, getting hit on by some man you have no interest in who WILL NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER??? I'm in my 60s and I do NOT miss it one bit!
Lola - no. Being chatted up nicely with someone who will accept you are not available and back off is very different to people who keep pushing, start touching and don't care how many times you say no. I'm over 30 and it still happens.
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I like to hand out the number of an EX=boyfriend for a double whammie . . . the new caller gets a man on the phone and EX thinks I am REALLY popular because everybody asks for ME!
If you're doing this to your ex what's to stop him from explaining and giving the creep your real number? I really doubt your ex is as destroyed about your dating life as you might want him to be.
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Back when this still happened to me, it was pre-internet, so I had to use the old reliable "give them the number for the time". Y'know, you dial a number and it tells you "at the tone, the time will be...."
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So.. he can’t say that she wouldn’t give him the time of day. 🙃 Growing up a popular girl told my mother why she gets so many dates, “I treat them like a bus, another one comes around every 5 minutes.” Mom didn’t exactly agree with this, but I will say creeps happen to almost every girl. I wish I had had more confidence in “No,” but I am married to a guy that gave me his number and let it be my choice. Now, this obviously isn’t why I married him, but he has the “It’s not going to hurt my feelings/think less of you if you say no” mentality and attitude that was refreshing. This isn’t to say he’s a doormat AT ALL, just has different priorities than some other people do. He cares about family, work, and his passions. Not perfect obviously but many of our priorities align. Too often men I knew made it seem like I was a bad person or x,y,z if... well they played all the cards. Pressure shouldn’t dictate who we are!
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Give them the numbers from lost. Or just two random numbers and say they’re your favorite numbers. Or just act confused and tell them your zodiac sign
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tell them you're really a dude. Or just bring a gun with you.
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You've never been scared for your life of a strange creeper have you.
(I couldn’t reply on the actual comment because there were so many downvotes, sorry smerv, this is meant for Bruno) Oh my god. This makes me so angry. You wonder why girls don’t ask for help when they are raped or harassed? This is why. People like you talk about things you don’t understand, and tell them “It’s just an excuse” “You’re so dramatic” “You weren’t in real danger”. STOP. Yes, they were in danger. Yes, we do fear for our lives when saying no to men. You’re probably salty about issues like these, I’d even go so far as to say you get rejected a lot, seeing as you are taking the side of the creeps. You know why you get rejected? It’s because you say shit like this. You insult women who fear for their lives and treat them like dramatic children even though you have never had an experience remotely similar, and there is a 99% chance you never will. Go. Fuck. Yourself.
I'd like to see how this Bruno person would react if someone told him he was going to prison. would he be fine just say, "Sorry you're just not my type" when some person twice his size comes up to him and says they want him to be theirs? I think his perspective might change a bit.
Ahh yes thank god a man is here to tell women they're being completely irrational for being afraid of men who can't take no for an answer.
What would you say to someone like me, who has turned men down and been followed in a car, or stalked? Or the worst experience of my life when I turned down a man and had them pull a gun on me? Being afraid is not a fucking excuse.
I was once really close to interfer after a man asked a teen her number at the bus station. He didn"t understand the "no" and was insisting until he said "but why won't you give me your phone number? I asked nicely!" But she answered "Oh your shirt is beautiful! can I blow my nose on it?" When he said "no" with an horrified face she added "but I asked nicely!" He left without a word and I'm still laughing when I think of her nice comeback.
Best.Answer.Ever! *slow clap*
That young woman will go places in life!
Brilliant! Using his own logic to demonstrate how it is flawed.
This girl is going places!!!! LOVE IT!!!
I'm going to have to remember this one! That was pure perfection.
Instead of giving women tips on how to avoid creeps who won't take "No" for an answer, we should focus on teaching men not to behave like this, and creating better police responses to these situations (i.e. no more asking a woman how she was dressed, actually testing rape kits, etc.)
Until the world becomes perfect, everyone still needs to know how to,protect themselves. Even with education and training, their will be predators and people who just Do. Not. Care
I agree that we need to know how to protect ourselves, but right now it's far more common to see women being advised on how to protect ourselves and rare to see men advised on how to act respectfully to women. Even well-intentioned, polite dudes might not realize, for example, that something they're doing is scary to women because they just aren't aware of our mindset of constantly watching out for violence. Or worse, we as a society don't condemn rape (just read about the Brock Turner case) and make it the woman's responsibility to avoid rape (Watch your drink, Don't go out alone) and not the man's responsibility to not commit rape.
@Marnee DeRider - I know this probably won't get to you because I can't write it as a reply, but here goes. Someone asking for your number isn't a predator. If they ask you over and over, if they don't take no for an answer, if they won't leave you alone, if they are making you feel uncomfortable, then they are being predators. One definition of 'predator' is an animal that hunts, kills, and eats other animals, like wolves, and lions. Another is someone who follows people in order to harm them or commit a crime against them, like a sexual predator. So it can be an apt description.
I agree. And as I said few times on this subject - 1) it doesn't matter if you go jogging every day or if you practice some martial art. Krav maga is popular, very efective and it usually doesn't cost much. 2) self defence tools are quite cheap and can be disguised as jewelery. 3) when you will get something for self defence, practice with it. You have at least one friend who is willing to help you or you can ask in local gym if is there somebody who will help you. Also policemen are sometimes willing to help you with tips and tricks how to use tasers, stunguns, battons, etc and train with you. I was training with my wife and now I'm damn sure that if she will be ever attacked by somebody with knife or batton whe will not be the one who will be hurt.
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@Catlady6000: So, a guy asking for a number is a predator? (Also, you do know that "predator" is an animal that kills in order to eat. It's not a very apt description of a person who does violence and makes it a joke.)
You can't control other people, only yourself
This advice is for other people though. It’s from one person to another.
Trina, duh! As parents, teachers, older siblings etc., we should be teaching men how to be respectful, intelligent citizens. We shouldn't have to focus on advising women how to deal w socially inept assholes. And yes, this is broader than men and women. Women can be inappropriate with men. Men and women can be inappropriate in homosexual relationships. We need to teach our children how to be respectful and considerate, how to accept "no"as a complete sentence, no explanation required.
I know what you are saying but by that logic we wouldn't discourage anyone from engaging in criminal/abusive behaviour as we would only focus on avoiding being victimized, which clearly isn't a good way for the world to run. So obviously as a society and as parents, teachers etc. we do need to be developing correct behaviour.
Great response! Thank you!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
We should do that too, but I think there will always be men (and women) like this.
Agreed, but some perfectly nice guys may come across as weird--it's not a science. A woman can say she doesn't give out her number to strangers, but it's okay if he wants to give her his.
There will only be creeps. It's sad, but that's the way it is. It's better to teach girls and boys how to be safe than teach them they live in a utopia where everybody is nice and bad things don't happen.
Good luck with that
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So, men seeking a mate is bad behavior? What is wrong with asking for a number. The title implies that this is a problem only with creepy guys who won't understand 'No', but the text says nothing about actually saying 'no'. And seriously, how often do women get "gutted" over saying no? Seriously, are women afraid of being murdered over stuff like this? They need to stop watching so many movies. (I understand that there might be a specific situation in which there might be some fear involved..late night and no one around...but usually that's not the case.) Say, "No, sorry." You are NOT REQUIRED to give a reason, but there is no need to be rude right off the bat. If they don't take 'no' for an answer, say "I said 'no'." And then don't talk to them any more. Completely ignore them.
My dad is in forensics. Do you REALLY want to know how many women (CIS and Trans) get gutted? There is a list that is read in November of people killed. I could send that to you, if you like.
Women get attacked for saying no all the time. It might be nice to pretend that it's only in movies but that just isn't the truth. This is just the most recent one that I heard of: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-baby-shot-fresno-party-20190624-story.html%3foutputType=amp
Or just read JP's comment below
Tell the guy you had 5 kids in 5 years and all are under the age of 6. All guys run from that. Enjoy your evening
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Not if they just want to fuck.
This is for everyone on here that is saying "Just Say No, Stop Making Excuses, You Were Never Really In Danger, You Are Just Being Dramatic...." Here's my story. I was in the grocery store, on a Saturday afternoon. I notice a guy is following me. He stands directly behind me, sometime touching me. The first time I say 'Excuse me' and move away. The subsequent times, I realize what is going on. He finally talks to me, but it's not a 'Hey, I'd like to get to know you' type of thing, it's a 'Yo, you gonna be my bitch' type of thing. I tell him NO Thank You and move on. Next thing I know is he's got my face in his grip, hard, and is nearly spitting in my face "No One Tells Me NO, Bitch. I Can Find Where You Live. I Will Follow You Home. You Are Going To Be Mine, Bitch!" He slammed my head against the shelves. That is when the manager shows up, with backup, and gets me away from this guy. The cops are called. There is a difference between a guy wanting a date and a guy instilling fear.
I lived in a smaller city that's main industry was farming. We had a pretty big hispanic community..some straight from Mexico. So one day I drop my neighbor and her daughter (15) at the store while I ran to the bank. Suddenly I'm getting a call from her to come get them quickly. Turns out that 3 men in their mid 40's were following my friends daughter around the store harassing her to go out on a date with them. Now this girl is gorgeous, but obviously 15 years old. I had them point out the men then wait outside. I go to the manager..point out the men. The manager escorts them out one by one. I took photos and had the manager translate to them in spanish that if they ever did anything like that again..I would not only get the police involved, I'd find their wives and tell them what they'd done. The manager trespassed them and apologized profusely. He then escorted us around the store until we were done shopping. One is bad enough..but three?
What does the fact that they're hispanic got to do with anything?
That's funny. I also live in a small farming town with a lot of Mexicans and Guatemalans. I don't know anyone whose been harassed by the men. They sit around and drink beer, watching women, but not harassing them. It always makes me feel safer, knowing there are witnesses outside. (In the summer.)
Not calling the police was your mistake... In Portugal they would act. I'm more affraid of american's, british's, german's and others that can't stop drinking, nevertheless!
why don't women just always say no.... “Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.” – Margaret Atwood ...it's a true statement.
Famously quoted by Courtney Barnett in "Nameless, Faceless". "I hold my keys, between my fingers..."
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Some people are afraid of chemtrails. Being afraid is not a measure of real danger, but often caused by exaggerating media.
My (now) wife had a stalker who would call 20 to 50 times a day. She would block a number, and he would spoof another one and continue to call. He did this for *years*. I answered the call twice and let him know that she wanted him to stop... and he did. But she still has nightmares, anxiety attacks, and won't go out alone because of that creep.
I'm really sorry this happened to your wife :(
That's awful!
How can we call our self civilized when our sisters and daughters still have to resort to all this thing just to walk safe on streets?
Personally, I agree with those saying that a "No" means "No", but we all know that this often isn't enough, especially with those, you don't want to give your number to. Some people... men, can't accept a no because of their ego. I always told my three daughters to never give away their numbers to strangers which they don't know the first thing about. You never know who you are talking to. Instead just ask for their number and if they still resist, seek for help. Ask others around you to help. Try to leave the situation and get away from that person. Remain calm, but stay strong and confident. If it’s going too far, call the cops or at least tell the person that you will. There’s no rule or law which forces you to give away your number.
Usually saying "No" works..but if the creep can't get the message...tell them to get loud about it. "Do I need to get security or the police here to help you understand the definition of "No!"" Most creeps that harass women try to do it quietly. If you announce to the world that he's a creep, he will not only leave you alone, he's less likely to do it with another woman that night for fear of a repeat performance.
High volume is good advice when it's an option, the last thing they want is everyone's attention. I had a guy come at me out of the bushes with his arms out straight for my chest like some kind of tit-grabbing zombie, I screamed "fuck off" so loud my colleagues could hear me five blocks away, the guy scampered off with the greatest look of terror I've ever seen. I'm lucky it ended in such a way that I can laugh about it now.
Ladies, if you don't want to give your number, don't do it! No spoofs, no nothing. Just a loudly screamed NO will do the trick. There are a lot of people who will watch out for you.
Yeah but the whole point of this article is what to do if you don't have that option. You're in a crowded party or concert and everyone is already screaming, no one's going to hear or care about your 'no.' What next?
@Bobert Robertson an article is literally defined as a 'piece of writing included in a publication.' I see writing at the top. And by the way, that has nothing to do with the discussion going on here.
In crowded and/or noisy situations, a knee to the groin gets the message across.
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Is this what we call an article these days?? A quick blurb followed by a bunch of Facebook comments?
Jarno, you DO NOT GET TO tell women what it is like to say no to a man. You do not get to. You don't understand what many women go through and you don't get to tell them their experience or what they should do. Where's your comment telling men what to do, ie don't be heinous skeevbags who ask more than once? Women resort to tricks because they are AFRAID and you don't get to tell them not to be.
@Jarno - Treating women with respect is the number one lesson YOU learned...it is not the number one lesson some guys learn. They learn to use intimidation, fear and terrorizing. Some guys saying NO is like waving a red flag at a bull, and women get hurt, raped or murdered. You have good intentions with your response, but not realistic expectations. So, please, talk to and teach men how to respond to NO from a woman, but do not pretend your way is the only way when the majority of women know different. I was in a grocery store and ended up with a black eye and bruising around my neck because I had the audacity to tell a guy NO when he wanted my number and a date. A Grocery Store. So, I agree with KatHat, men do not get to tell us what it is like and how we should feel when a guy asks for your number, or for a date. We should not have to resort to 'tricks', but that just might keep us safe...and you never know which guy will freak out on you...you never know where it will happen.
While I appreciate that you have good intentions, Jarno, Kathat does have a point. It's not uncommon for women to be attacked for turning a man down. While we shouldn't have to resort to things like creating fake numbers, it's the only way to know you won't provoke an attack, like this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-baby-shot-fresno-party-20190624-story.html%3foutputType=amp
I don't get to? With all due respect, who are you, to tell me what not to say? I'm offering advice, to let the women know, there are still men looking out for them. And if I have to comment on men how to behave, society is already doomed, because treating a woman with respect is the number 1 lesson we learn. Heck, we have to respect everyone. Me and my friends hate the kind of assholes and when we see behavior like this, will most likely punch some sense into them. If you give those guys any kind of number, it's like giving them a reward for the way they act. I don't think you want things like this to happen to other women? Because they will play their "game" again and again.
Jarno will tell "ladies" how to act, but wont tell men. He is part of the problem
The problem is that women can get hurt or murdered for refusing to give out their phone number. Just saying 'no' to certain men can literally get you murdered. It is a fact of life for many women. The problem is that it's not always easy to tell which guys will actually take 'no' for an answer, and which ones will want to hurt you. They will watch and wait. They will find the opportunity when you're alone to hurt or murder you for having the 'audacity' to refuse them. Thus, we end up having to find ways to protect ourselves.
Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are simply unaware or naive. Refusing advances can place women in considerable danger. Women are murdered for refusing men's advances. https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28936116/star_trib_19_dec_199 Their children are thrown off balconies https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-threw-year-mall-america-balcony-tells-police/story?id=62423602 You might think these are exceptions, but you really need to read up on the statistics on how women are beaten, raped, assaulted and even killed just for saying NO. You may think that a lot of people will look out for us...you are wrong and that can be shown by the number of stories involving men attacking women for having the audacity to say NO to their advances. It happens daily in just about every area of the country. IF you truly care, get yourself educated, please.
Hugo, here is a good starting point: https://www.mic.com/articles/135394/14-women-were-brutally-attacked-for-rejecting-men-why-arent-we-talking-about-it
I'd be interested in these statistics. Where can I find them?
Unfortunately, Jarno, there are to many stories of women getting attacked and/or murdered for telling a man no. Sometimes its safer for us to lie.
You do get to say what you like, but with all due respect, you really don't get it. No one wants to be beat up or worse for yelling NO at the wrong person. Not every man is as polite as you. Unfortunately, most of the women posting here have had to deal with scary aggressive men. Say what you will but I do not poke bears.
Jarno, sorry, but NO. When there are real life events like this - a row of taxi drivers waiting for fares closing their car windows so that they don't have to hear the sound of the woman screaming for help whilst she was raped. None of them even called the police while sitting on their arses nice and safe in their cars. You can never assume that there are people who will watch out for you. Bobert Robertson - these things NEED to be shared. It's never a bad idea to have a few tricks up your sleeve.
Not always. When I was young I had to take a bus home from work at night, well after normal working hours. There were not a lot of people around to look out for me while I waited at the bust stop. You have no idea what you're talking about.
It's nice that you belive that, Jarno, but all women know that this is just not always true.
Yea, if I were in that position I'd clearly decline, if they still insist just call security and get them thrown out for harassment.
No surprise this dangerous advice was given by a man.
If a woman you weren't attracted to asked for your number and you knew there was a 1 in 2 chance she would shoot you if you said "no", would you dare say it? That's what women have to go through.
1 in 2 isn't the same as 50/50.
1 in 2 chance? Get real.
Jarno, you'd been surprised how many really doesn't give a shit about your struggles with a strange creeper.
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Thank you!
All those who believe it is really as simple as saying a strong NO or pushing a man aside need to grow up, become aware and educate themselves. How many women are stalked, assaulted and even murdered because they said NO to a man's advances? To those who insist that women need to exercise more discretion as to where they go, how they dress, whether they drink or not or insist that only "certain types" of women experience harassment should grow up, put aside your twisted judgements and become educated! STOP BLAMING VICTIMS!
It is true. Some men are afraid women are laughing at them. Many women are afraid men are going to kill them. and/ or rape them.
It's sad that most people suggested saying "I have a boyfriend". It's a painful proof that most men respect other men much more than they respect women. In this case, a man respects other man's "lady property" and keeps off, instead of just respecting the woman and accepting the very simple word "NO".